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NFL Kickoff Week 1 · 4 The Exchange

• GoFredo: What's going on? It's Mr. Big Bite himself, Gofredo. I got my partners here, Kev, Later Don. How y'all doing this evening? Y'all, yeah. LayTheDon: You know, are you still in? GoFredo: Yeah, she got that trash, y'all. She got that trash, y'all. But look, we'll discuss Kevin: You wouldn't. GoFredo: that. We'll discuss that in a minute. The reason. LayTheDon: What's wrong with the name was it? GoFredo: Hey, Lizzie, y'all. This is our football special. Actually, no, our sports special. We're gonna be dropping these every other Wednesday. So listen, we here this Wednesday. Every other Wednesday, you're gonna see us again. It's straight like that at 7 a.m. Let's get excited and getting right into it. just to let y'all know, Kobe don't really do sports, so Kobe will not be on these segments moving forward. It'll just be us three and any guests that we have come on and we're gonna interview. But look, let's let's just dive right into it and get things started. Patriots Seattle on a Wednesday. That's how we doing it, NFL? Like That's how we doin' it? LayTheDon: I don't know Wednesday is pretty. Kevin: On a Wednesday, man. I remember we had that Thursday night game, we was tripping over that. GoFredo: Ma hey man, listen. Well my thing is I'm gonna start with I'm gonna start with you first, Lay. What is your what's your views on a Wednesday game? Like what's your views on the NFL taking Wednesday now? LayTheDon: I ain't gonna lie, like Wednesday is kind of throwing off the the aura. I'm used to my Thursday GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: night football or whatnot. And like considering the fact that like Wednesday is my most busiest day at work, I ain't gonna have the energy to even watch that game Wednesday. So I'm gonna have to somehow get to a TV as fast as I could or I'm gonna be watching it on the truck on the way back home. One or two. GoFredo: Hey you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to cause the season kicked off. Season kicking off. What about you, Kev? What's your views on the women? Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: See this kid dog, I'm doing I got I got a couple I got a couple Seahawks on my on my team, so I'm gonna I'm gonna need gonna do some do some things. GoFredo: Who who your s Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: wh wh why we here? I like what you did there. While we here, who who what Seattle players you got on your on your fantasy team? LayTheDon: double chat me then we do a little double chat me double check make sure I ain't tripping GoFredo: Say we pull it out, we pull it out. LayTheDon: make sure I ain't tripping GoFredo: While you pull it up, I'm asking, are you got it? LayTheDon: I said to arrest it. I did not have I I could have sworn I did. I actually don't have Seattle on this week. I thought I did. GoFredo: She a hip bluffin, she a hill bluffin. She got her she got her league bother. LayTheDon: my bad. I got the LA Rams people in Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: my joint. They play on Thursday. I got Thursday. I prefer Thursday night. I GoFredo: They play Thursday. They play Thursday. LayTheDon: I was prepared for Thursday night football. Now Wednesday night football. The Wednesday is throwing me off. See? The Thursday. GoFredo: See you did say that. She did say that. She did say that. Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: Like it's it's throwing me off. Like I'm prepared for Thursday night. But Wednesday I'ma watch. But Yeah. It's the Seahawks and the Patriots. GoFredo: Ooh ooh Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: Kev, what about you, boss? How you feelin' about a Wednesday Wednesday opener? A Wednesday opener. Kevin: Man, that's a little that's a little different, man for me. like I said, man, I remember they added that Thursday night game. We we were tripping over that Thursday night, man. It's a little different. Where where you know, where's it even streaming GoFredo: Bro. Bro, you're Kevin: actually? I remember they put that thing out. It was it was ugly on Amazon when they first when they first put it out. GoFredo: Bro, it wa hey it was glitching. All types of stuff. Issues. It Kevin: 'Cause I think it's streaming on on Peacock or something, I I think. GoFredo: You might just be right. I mean LayTheDon: Is it? GoFredo: no, it's on it's on NBC. It's on NBC. Yeah. The the Kevin: Also on NBC. all right, all right. LayTheDon: black. GoFredo: the Thursday game, Seattle Rams, is on Netflix. LayTheDon: Well, since we're talking Kevin: that's LayTheDon: about social media, how do I feel about these each individual game or each day? You gotta have a specific app to watch each individual game. Like what happened to back in the day when all the channel all the T all the games came around one channel? Like you gotta have a Netflix for the Thursday night, Kevin: Yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: you gotta have Peacock for Friday. Like that's that's that's low key getting a little bit annoying. Kevin: Yeah, that was throwing me off a little bit. You're right. GoFredo: Honestly, I'm not a fan of it because they want you to have you need YouTube TV. So you need to pay for YouTube TV LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and then pay for NFL Network to get all the games. But then even though LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: you do that, you still need Peacock, you still need Amazon Prime, and now you now you need Netflix as well to get games as LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: well. So to me it's I mean, it's it's all a money grab right now. That's all it really much Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: is. I was like my mom. How my homie do with basketball is one of those things where you just need to pay for your team and then just go from there at this point. Them them days Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: of watching every team play is over with unless you got a bag that you wanna pay to be honest. Kevin: Right, right, right. GoFredo: Or just wait for the highlights LayTheDon: Big right. GoFredo: to come up on social media. And so that's what it would come down to. LayTheDon: Well you or you or you or you just check your best the next day and make sure C wish to do something's actually there something. GoFredo: That's that's all it is. That's all Hey look, the one thing I know Instagram Instagram and Facebook will show you all the highlights when the before the night is over with. Before the night is over with. It'll Kevin: Right, right, right. GoFredo: show you everything you need. If whatever you miss, you'll get to see all the highlights. And then on top of it LayTheDon: corners. GoFredo: come on now. And then on top of it, you can just go to after after a while if you really wanna like look into a game and dissect it, watch fam or whatever. The next day YouTube had a full game on there. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: You can go to YouTube and just type the game where they have you the full game on it. Ain't you gotta pay a dime. But I mean, you know, you already know who won, so I guess you missed the excitement out of it. But speaking of excitement, Aaron Donald's back. Like Aaron Donald is back. LayTheDon: Mm. Kevin: That's a game changer. That's a game changer. GoFredo: Like, like, what? Hey, Lei, Lei, I would have to say something. I had to tell you something. Me and Kev was making our Super Bowl picks, which which we will make later. And Aaron Donald changed a lot of things for us when it came to our Super Bowl pick on the NFC side. And now with him back, I mean, I ain't gonna lie to you. I see you got your Cowboys jersey on. I just gotta say this. I'm seeing Cowboys fans say, you know, you know Cowboys say that the every year they are. But I'm seeing Cowboys say fans say, you know, 2027, we got it. Like Aaron Donald coming back got Cowboys fans saying next year's IEA. Like that's how that's how game Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: changing this man is. LayTheDon: Am I one of the Lulu Cowboys fans? Yes. But GoFredo: Ha ha ha. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: but I ain't gonna, I'm not gonna lie, I've been lowering my standards more recently. So I I haven't been on the, you know, we're going to the Cowboys training. I've been more we're gonna get the NFT champion phase. We're gonna get that far. You know, I'm on the we're gonna get to the playoffs training. So I'm trying to, you know, be hopeful that you know we're gonna we're gonna get to a championship. GoFredo: no. LayTheDon: It might not be the championship, but we're gonna get to one of them. GoFredo: Talking about V. It's only one. There's only one championship. The only one that matter. It's the only one that matters. It's that Illumari. It's the Lombardi. That's the only one that matters. I do like your offense LayTheDon: It's not. GoFredo: though. I do think I do think the Cowboys got a chance to be I mean one of some I'm gonna say the greatest show on turf when it comes to the offensive weapons that they have and what they bring to the table. My only thing with the Cowboys is just I don't I just can't understand why y'all can't get a decent defense. I mean and now I do think the Cowboys have had good defense in the past during Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: I would say during Dak's era. I will say that, and I do think they fell short. But like as of late, offensive power that y'all had last year coming into this year, you got Pickens with another season under his belt. he he trying to prove himself and get himself a match deal, whether it's with Dallas or somewhere else. I feel Dak has proven. C D has proven. I mean That cowboy offense is I mean, from names, my goodness. Like I'm expecting five thousand passing yards from Dag. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm I'm expecting or close to it. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: I mean you might have made it, I don't know, 'cause the way that GoFredo: You ain't winning no ring, but I'm expecting five thousand yards. Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: Yeah. I mean, that don't don't get me wrong, like granted, people really be sleeping on Dak. Like, yeah, yeah, they joke about the Cowboys all the time, but like Dak Dak is really like secretly he's underrated. Like people really be sleeping on him. And that if Dak has the pieces that he needs, like that defense, Dak can really be a monster for. Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: But he GoFredo: Sorry. LayTheDon: just need he he just need that help. That that defense will really bring that team together. Cause right now our GoFredo: I think that I think LayTheDon: only way of winning is outscoring. GoFredo: I just think he 'cause he played for Dallas. That's just all it is. No, not Kevin: Well I'm gonna say this. LayTheDon: So I'm always a Kevin: My man my man GoFredo: Not Kevin: threw for forty five hundred yards last year though, so how how much more are we asking for? You know what I mean? GoFredo: Hey, hey, hey, 5,000. That's what we ask you. LayTheDon: No way. Kevin: Hey listen, you throw five thousand yards, you don't GoFredo: Então for by a Delder Wizard. Kevin: get no championship. That's a problem. GoFredo: Did Dallas make it to the LayTheDon: Look, we're GoFredo: playoffs last year? LayTheDon: working on it, okay? We we working on it. Jared and finally made some moves. He done brought us some pieces. We done shift some pieces around, you know. So I I'm very hopeful in my team this year. Very hopeful. Are we making to the crowd? GoFredo: É Juchu, é o Juchu. LayTheDon: Are we making it to the Super Bowl? I don't know yet. And I'm not gonna put that bad usual on my team. But will we talk GoFredo: Don't worry about it. LayTheDon: our division? Definitely, 100%. I have faith in that. GoFredo: Hmm. Speaking of your division. LayTheDon: Yeah, that's it. GoFredo: Speaking of your division, that man right there, Kevin, is in your same division. Speaking of your division, not only is he in your same division, y'all play each other Sunday. Y'all play each other Sunday. So listen. LayTheDon: Ciao in cellular. Kevin: Hey, listen, man. I'm excited. I'm excited about that. I mean, listen, this is a different energy. Is it this this is the most energy that's been brought to New York in a long time. You know what I mean? I think Harbor GoFredo: Yeah, I agree with that. Kevin: is bringing a good energy. we got Malik neighbors coming back. we brought back OBJ. I gotta go shake the dust off my jersey real quick. GoFredo: Aí, boy, you should water night. Kevin: I told you I gotta take the dust off first. Next episode I'm gonna have it on. LayTheDon: He gotta pick the dress off, got iron in join a little bit, you know, a little or GoFredo: Been the closet for a long time. LayTheDon: nothing card with something to me. Kevin: Long time, you know what I mean? But yeah, no, I'm excited. I'm excited about New York football right now. But no, opening opening you know, against Dallas, I mean that's always gonna be a big deal. You know what I mean? GoFredo: What you think the score gonna be? Kevin: My perspective. LayTheDon: we're gonna whoop their ass like thirty five thirty five seven, you know. We're gonna let them get one in. We're gonna let Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: Let them get one in is crazy. LayTheDon: let get one in. Kevin: Hey, dang, it's like that. It's like that. GoFredo: Let hey LayTheDon: You know, y'all gonna catch us on y'all gonna catch us on one bad like interception or something, something crazy, you know, some it's either gonna be interception or like some fumble, some slight, and then you know, y'all gonna get a little points. Yeah, some little girl, give me GoFredo: Kick return, you know, something that's not useless. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: some more points. Ain't gonna be nothing too crazy. But just know, just know the next episode I will be on that ass if y'all lose. Kevin: well I th you GoFredo: Huh! Kevin: know you know how many picks you think that gonna throw? LayTheDon: No. GoFredo: Talking about none is crazy. Talk about none LayTheDon: Null. GoFredo: is crazy. That Giants team is young, but they nice. They got another younger da belt. They got they a nice team. They got a nice rise. I like they I feel like they defense better than Dallas defense. Kevin: definitely, definitely. Dallas ain't got defensive pieces right now. Nah, man. GoFredo: I do. I do. LayTheDon: We did we we didn't have defense. We got defense now. It's it's just just wait on it. Just wait on it. We look in GoFredo: It's pieces. LayTheDon: promises. GoFredo: Y'all la you know y'all lost digs. Yeah, Seattle now. LayTheDon: I know. I'm not I'm not too happy about it at all. GoFredo: That's your man Jerry. That's your man Jerry. LayTheDon: Jerry been on some he been on like he been wildin' lately. GoFredo: Jerry a dictator, that's what it is. That's what it is. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: Like how you get rid of Joe Milton and then take him back on a practice. Like, what are we doing here? Like what in what what scheme are GoFredo: Yeah, I LayTheDon: you practice? GoFredo: I I like that. I think I think Joe Milton is a really good quarterback and I doesn't make any sense why but I s it doesn't make any sense why you cut him in the first place and then well it does make sense to a strategic standpoint, but I just don't think it's fair to him, that they doing that. LayTheDon: Right. Finally financially I guess it made sense, but like, dude, like GoFredo: Mm. LayTheDon: what what are we doing here? Like you just we didn't ask for that. GoFredo: I think somebody said that that the reason they the reason they cut the reason they cut him and put him on the practice squad put him on the practice squad is so Dak but not necessarily specifically saying this for Dak, but just for any quarterback, you don't have to look over your shoulder because the one thing about Dallas is that you ain't playing too well. They're gonna look at because Milton had a amazing preseason. So like and he LayTheDon: You did. GoFredo: has a rifle for arm. So it's like you're gonna look back and be like, Hey man, put Milton in the game, man. Put Milton in the game. And you don't want that for your starting quarterbacks you paying, you know, hundred of hundreds of millions of dollars to. So I get it to a certain extent. And you know, that's the business side of things, but to be honest with you, I thought I I said you cut I'm thinking Atlanta should sign him. To be honest with you, Atlanta got quarterback problem injury problems with Tua and and Penix Jr. Kevin: Yeah you go. GoFredo: They got weapons galore. You add a Joe Middle, another young quarterback with that young core. I'm not saying he wins the job, but you know, at least he's healthy. No disrespect to the other guys, but at least he's Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: healthy. Give him a chance to go out there. LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: Like I said, he played a amazing preseason game. But I didn't get we didn't get we didn't get Kev's answer because I want to know what the score Kev got for Sunday night. Cause it's it's it's it's a prime time game. 720, night game, Kevin: Really? GoFredo: Sunday night. Giants, Cowboys, what you got? What's the score? LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Let me let us know. Kevin: Well she's saying lot too a little. I think it's gonna be close. I think it's gonna be close, but I feel a W. I feel a W, man. That's that's GoFredo: Mm. Kevin: me. I'ma go my LayTheDon: So a W O R N? the okay. Kevin: I feel a W on my end. I feel like, you know, you're gonna have a a long night on Sunday night, but you know, that's just that's just me. I think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go thirty five, twenty eight my way. GoFredo: hey listen. LayTheDon: Thirty five three, this your way is wild. GoFredo: Hey listen, it sounds like we got a wager on our hands. That's what it sounds like. So look, I'm excited because this is our first bet quote unquote challenge for 40 exchange. So what I'm thinking is, and y'all let me know what y'all think. Loser gotta wear the other team colors. I mean or shirt, jersey, any of that. Loser has to wear that on the next episode. Kevin: Mm. LayTheDon: I don't even think I'm bachelor cursed in my episode in my in my closet. Crazy. GoFredo: Don't worry don't and listen. Don't worry about it. We if you lose, we got we got some time to get you a giant shirt. Amazon work great. Amazon Amazon Prime to get you one soon. Don't lose. You got some confidence, don't lose. okay, okay, okay. Kevin: Exactly. LayTheDon: Yeah, wild. I mean we ain't gonna lose. Like one of us is definitely Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: we we we can at least agree that one of these teams is getting a thirty five. One of I ain't GoFredo: You think so? Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: gonna lie, I love keeping this gonna be a a a a mid scoring game. Like it ain't gonna it this ain't gonna be no low scoring game. Kevin: yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I don't think it's gonna I don't think so. GoFredo: No huh, yeah. Well LayTheDon: Somebody going to thirty five. For sure, we're going to thirty five. GoFredo: my only concern Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: is for the Giants, will you be able to keep up with Dallas' offense? That's my only thing. Will you be able to LayTheDon: Yeah. Absolutely not. GoFredo: will you be able to go tick for tack with Dallas offense? Because I'm not saying a Dallas finna score every single drive, but I LayTheDon: We east. GoFredo: Man, I'm look I ain't gonna lie to you and you and y'all you know this Kevin Lay. I don't really rock with Dallas, but I love football. But them offensive weapons they got, I mean, good Lord have mercy. Like, it's not Kevin: yeah. No, that's the high powered offense over there. GoFredo: too many Ye bro, it's not too many teams that got two corners LayTheDon: As well as another thing. GoFredo: that can guard number like you gotta have two number one corners to guard them. Like they got two number Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: ones on their team. That's I mean, and Dak I Dak has had MVP seasons. Kevin: Nah, C D is a problem. C D is a problem, I ain't gonna GoFredo: Yeah, I'm bro. LayTheDon: Here's the thing, like I said. We do have a we have we have or had a defensive issue. And def and Cowboys' main main goal is that as long as we outscore, we'll be fine. That's as if we can't beat him at defense defensively, we're gonna outscore you. That's what I say. I think it is definitely gonna be a high scoring game. It's probably gonna be a tip for tat, a score for GoFredo: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: score. but I am I am looking forward to see what this new dude defense because we have decided we have gotten a couple couple of heavy hitters this year. So I I I feel like confidently GoFredo: And recipes. LayTheDon: I can say I think our defense is going to look different this year. GoFredo: Yeah, boy better. Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: I feel like it's gonna look different this year. GoFredo: All I know is in two weeks, either you gonna be wearing the Giants shirt or jersey or Kobe I mean Kev gonna be wearing the Giants I mean the Cowboys shirt and jersey. That's all I know. That's all I got for you. Kevin: I think I think of me wearing what I got on right now. I think that's what's gonna GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: happen. LayTheDon: Joking. GoFredo: Well man said my fit fine I got the fit I got. Kevin: They gonna look at my outfit. LayTheDon: I just feel like if the Knicks if the Knicks can make it to the championship, I feel like we got this. GoFredo: Hell, that's such a Dallas Cowboy response. If the Knicks Kevin: man. GoFredo: can win, we can Kevin: They see now it's man. The thing is this. Hey GoFredo: Hey Kevin: the thing is this the Knicks the Knicks wasn't going every year. This R year. It's been Dallas year every year since ninety two. LayTheDon: There's not there's no point. That's not GoFredo: What LayTheDon: the point. We d this we we got things here. Okay. Trust the process. GoFredo: Hey. I don't know, bro. I don't know, bro. The Knicks fans Knicks fans was wild. Knicks fans swelled me down that they was dominant. You got s you got you Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: got you got Stephen A. Smith on first take that just can't be quiet about the Knicks. Kevin: No me LayTheDon: Me GoFredo: Boy, hey listen, I can't I'll be honest with y'all though. I can't wait till we can talk about basketball season, that's for sure. That's for sure. Kevin: yeah. yeah. It's a lot to talk about with basketball. GoFredo: Yeah, that's for sure. That's why I love the fact that we're doing this for sure, for sure. But let's dive back into this a little bit more. We got the Rams we got the Rams playing the forty niners. we got Aaron Donald. Let's get into the hot topic of what things we talked about it earlier. We got Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett on the same team. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: I I told I was talking to Kev a couple of weeks ago about, you know, Super Bowl picks, which I said earlier, we'll definitely get into that before the show closed. I had to look at the Rams offen or offense. I had to look at the Rams team from top to bottom. They are absolutely loaded. Like this team Kevin: Mm. Yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: is absolutely loaded. And they already have good DBs on the back end, but adding Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: essentially two Hall of Famers as your pass rush on top of and I was telling Kev this you already have a good defensive line. Like you had a good defensive line last year with Verse. Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: Like you were still putting getting sacks, you still getting pressure on the quarterback. You you basically switch verse with Miles Garrett, which essentially upgrades your defensive line even more. but then also now you add Aaron Donald into your rotation. And we talking about we Kevin: Is it? GoFredo: ain't talking about, you know, 60, 70 snaps, Aaron Donald. We talking about 30 snaps, 25, 30 snaps are just key moments in the game where he's gonna be handling this business. I it's gonna be hard for Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: me to look. If I'm a quarterback or offensive line, you better make sure you get some good sleep. All week, not just one night before the game. I'm talking about all week. The 49ers Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: are gonna be I mean the 49ers already got injury issues they have to deal with they're dealing with certain situations like that. it's really hard to say, but what's I'm gonna I'm gonna start with Kev. Kev, what's your views on how the how the Rams have been able to get Aaron Donald back and how they like how they stack up? Kevin: I mean defensively, I mean I I think at this point that kinda speaks for itself. You hit it on the nose. I can't really add too much to that. I mean that's just I mean that's a GoFredo: Yeah. Kevin: that's a lot of teams gonna be having nightmares. Is what I GoFredo: Boa. Kevin: is what I see. but I think what excites me about the Rams the most at this particular point is I just love what's happened to Matthew Stafford's career since he's come to LA man. I I think it GoFredo: Yes. Kevin: w it's I think it was just long overdue for him. he gave he gave Detroit so much. So the fact that he was able to come here and have success, I'm just I'm I'm happy for him. And then he's got so he's got weapons offensively and just a phenomenal defense. So I mean I'm excited to see what he does this year, what that looks like in LA. GoFredo: In a really good system too. Kevin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Yeah. So how about you, Lei? What's your view? I mean Listen, I don't think respectfully to my man's Kev, I think the Giants have a good season, but I don't think they enter into the playoffs. I asked you this, I asked you this, because for the Cowboys, I do think the Cowboys have a good chance to really make some noise. But as a Cowboys fan, and when you look at it like when you look at the Rams and how they stacked up, like what's your views on this? Like, and let's be honest, let's not be a Cowboy fan. LayTheDon: Honest with you, I I do think the Rams are definitely gonna be dangerous this year. I that that everyone can agree on that. like I said, I do have I I 100% do have two two Rams fans, two Rams players on my league, Matthew Sebra Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: being my bench quarterback. so GoFredo: It's LayTheDon: I yeah, I gotta mess with my bitch. I got Dak is my number one. My Dak is starting. GoFredo: that why are we not surprised? Continue. LayTheDon: We're not about to sit here and act like I wanna go ahead and have Dak as my starting quarterback. Let's start there. GoFredo: I well I'm not surprised. That makes sense. He's gonna put up numbers. LayTheDon: Yeah. but Matthew Stafford, I mean obviously I had to have a backup quarterback 'cause once Dak on, you know, Dak going they go on by week, you I I gotta be able to trace people out. And I know at least, you Matthew Stafford can still put the same numbers GoFredo: Produced LayTheDon: up as that. You know, they sound I ain't gonna say same level, I'm still gonna put Dak over him, but that's just my personal preference. GoFredo: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: Cowboys fly. Anyway, but yes, the Rams, this season, I definitely will put them as Super Bowl contenders for sure. Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: will they win? Probably not. I feel like it's gonna be one of those things where like they they they build that momentum up and then, you know, towards the end of the season, it it's gonna be a lot of unhealthy people and then it's gonna fall off. GoFredo: I agree. I think health play is gonna play a very interesting factor with AT. but I'm glad you said that because Dallas plays the Rams December 20th. So I want that same LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: energy about the Rams December 20th, when Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett is chasing Dak for his life and he won't be able to get the ball up to his one A, one B receiver. So I want that same energy that you just put out there. Cause I when she when she was talking, Kev, I said, let me look at the schedule. To make sure they don't play each other. So I just wanted Kevin: I GoFredo: to double check. So I want that same energy of December twentieth when the Rams is honking him down and he trying to go for his dead life. Kevin: Mm-hmm. Hey, you know you know what game I'm excited for though? I wanna see GoFredo: Was that? Kevin: LA and Philly. I'm excited for that. I'm excited for that one. I'm excited for that one. Philly Philly got away with one last year. LayTheDon: They gon run all over Jalen. They gon' run all over Jalen Hurts. Jalen, they GoFredo: Ouais. Hey, LayTheDon: Jalen Jalen better be GoFredo: October fourth LayTheDon: running for his life. GoFredo: October fourth and October fourth in Philly. Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: Ja Jalen about to be running for his life, bruh. I'm drawing. GoFredo: Yeah, the it's LayTheDon: I don't think Jalen the last few games, Jalen ain't been playing it great. So I'm yeah. Yeah. GoFredo: I think it's a whole bunch of things Kevin: Yeah, we can create GoFredo: that play to factor into it. I think I think I think when they won their Super Bowl run, I think they it just clicked for them and they finally figured it out. And I think, you know, last year it was just like they just thought that they can just it's you know, it's one of those things where I feel with them, they just thought they can get into the playoffs and it'll just click again. Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: And then they also had like with the whole AJ Brown situation and whatnot, I also think that, Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: you know. Yeah, I think that the media kinda I mean I mean he didn't do no j he didn't do himself no favors either. But I also think the LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: you know the media kinda made it way more than what it is and you know, like I said, he Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: didn't do himself no favors. but I think Jalen Hurts I don't think Philly goes that far into the playoffs, but I do think they get they feel for the game again and Jalen Hurts gets Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: back comfortable. And they'll be able to I think Saquon's about to have one heck of a season. but like me and Kira was talking before, I just hope that Philly isn't doing this whole like they did last year. You get a turn, you know, Saquon's turn, AJ's turn, Devontae's turn, Jalen Hurts quarterback power. You know, I hope they actually run a, you know, a competent offense and actually just go back to what they did to win. We running Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: this offense through Saquon. That's what we got him. That's what we brought him here. That's that's why that's why we brought him here. Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: No disrespect to Jalen Hurts, but I mean, come on now, we're talking about Saquon Barkley. Like, let's run our offense through him and it'll open up the passing game. That's my opinion at least. What about you, Kev? Kevin: Nah, I agree. it was just a shame. Last year I think it was a lot of play calling was not was just not great. I mean on paper, GoFredo: I agree with that. Kevin: Philly had probably on paper they had the most high powered offense in the NFL and didn't perform. And they did not perform last year. the run was on ice, we you know, Saquon had a lot of carries, but you know, the success was just not there. they didn't really establish the number one receiver. That caused a lot of problems. I think it'll be a bit different this year. it looks like Devontae's gonna be the guy and then you got a young guy in Makai Lemon. So we're gonna see how that shapes up. But I think I think GoFredo: I like him. Kevin: they got a chance. I think he's gonna be I think he's gonna be a good player. I think he's gonna be a good player. GoFredo: Like him. I like him a lot. I definitely do. It's and I I think the way the j I think the way they set up now, it's like you said, you you know the one in thing I I like with that Dallas does with the one A, one B receiver or basically two one A's, is that there it's almost like I don't know why Philly couldn't do it. Like why Philly couldn't f like Kevin: Right, right. GoFredo: like what Dallas does with Pickens LayTheDon: Feeling the name. GoFredo: and and C D Lamb Kevin: Yeah, it's GoFredo: You don't see that the same thing with Philly. And I understand obviously Dak and Hurts are two different quarterbacks with what they doing, but it it just seemed like regardless if Jalen Hurts was Payton Madden or Tom Brady, it was still like a a issue with who's the number one guy on that offense. And so to me, I I just like Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: what Dallas does what they do with with what they got going on. And I just I just couldn't click with me why Philly couldn't get that established that hey man, we got two Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: number ones here. You know, we're gonna spread the ball out. We're gonna try to get you guys at least a close to a thousand yards apiece. Say Quan we gonna try to get you a thousand. Like, you know, make it a make it a competent offense and they just couldn't seem to get that going for some reason. Kevin: But you you know what? In in Jalen's defense, you can't change up your coordinator every year and expect this guy to you expect this guy to perform. You just you just can't you you can't do it. GoFredo: Yes. Yeah. LayTheDon: Right. I was waiting for somebody to say that. The inconsistency GoFredo: Yes. LayTheDon: is is is is ridiculous. Like Jalen has to work with these changes every freaking year. Like GoFredo: Yes. LayTheDon: I can understand as a quarterback. That is frustrating. You can't even you can't Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Yes, people understand that. LayTheDon: get everybody on a flowing routine and everybody ain't communicating properly if they constantly gotta keep updating with these changes. GoFredo: Yeah. But you gotta we also gotta Kevin: And we're for you. GoFredo: re we also gotta we also gotta admit though, I'm gonna let you go, Kev. I wanna say we also gotta admit though, winning does that. They won Super Bowl, he left. Like like winning also Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: does that. So they won the Super I mean he they did they weren't changing coordinators before, but but that's what also comes with winning. It's like you once you win a Super Bowl, you're likely to lose coordinators every single time. Like look what that happened with the l with the Lions. The Lions, The Lions got a good run in the playoffs. They was almost what a couple plays away from going to the Super Bowl. And Kevin: yeah. GoFredo: then all of a sudden they lose Aaron Glenn and I forgot the Ben Johnson. Kevin: They also the whole coaching staff is sitting Yeah. GoFredo: Yeah. Yeah. So it's winning y when y when you win, it's good. Everybody happy, but like the only person likely to come back is the head coach. Like that's that's pretty much it. Kevin: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. GoFredo: And the head coach is only one small piece to this championship roster. Like people understand your coordinators play a very big part in what you got going on. Like look at the like speaking of the Lions, look how the Lions then dipped losing Ben Johnson offensively. And look how the Bears Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: did like we talking two completely different offenses now to where now people and people in Chicago are saying Bears is championship, championship of bust. Like I still think they're a season or two away. I think that they, you know, I Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: d like, you know, being from Chicago, I tell people I think the bears overachieved, which is a good thing, but the problem with overachieving, now all of a sudden you gotta make sure you you you can bring that same energy every single year. Kevin: Mm-hmm. Lay Lay ain't like that you GoFredo: So that's gonna be a problem. I Kevin: said that. Lay she ain't like that you said that. Chicago season to a wing. She ain't like GoFredo: D Kevin: she ain't like that. LayTheDon: Chicago. Okay. GoFredo: I'm just saying I'm just saying hey look, hey look hey look Hey look, my Chicago fans gonna hate me for this or whatever, man, look. What and we about four four four five minutes away from making our Super Bowl picks. But I I'm just saying now I got the Rams. Like I'm be honest with you. And it and it comes from and I'm taking a gamble Kevin: Right. GoFredo: on it because it's it's definitely like Lay Sair Health is gonna pay such a big factor, especially with like Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: The way Puka Nakua plays, and you know, he apparently he got some off the field issues that they just announced that he'll be able to play week one. So I'm ha excited to see that. But like if they can stay healthy, like, my goodness. Like this I'm not Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: saying sixteen and six seventeen and but I mean, it's gonna be hard to stop them in the playoffs. I mean, just because of the pass rush. It's like people don't know like you know, like Kevin: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: we all know this. Like, if I can get to your quarterback. You can't make nothing happen. Like, and then it's not like, Kevin: Yeah. LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: and then I saw I saw I was watching Shannon Sharp and he was talking about like you don't have to run the ball and this that and the third and it's just like, dude, that defensive line as a whole is still cold. Like it's like Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: that we like we talking about Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald. Like two guys that you, that teams have been double teamed their whole career. Now you have to play them one-on-one. That's dangerous. That that is a lot of offensive lines are about to lose their job. A lot of offensive line players are probably about to lose their job. Or you know, how they used to say about Derek Rose, they gonna have that little Derek Rose flu. With guys like, Hey man, I'm Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: sick tonight, coach. I ain't got it in me today. I ain't got it in me today. I ain't got it LayTheDon: We can say that. Kevin: Okay. GoFredo: in me today. Aaron Donald over there, boy. I seen a man work out, boy. You'd have thought you you'd have thought this man Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: been playing football his whole time, he'd been out. I ain't gonna lie to you. but before before we end the show, it's it's definitely a team that I wanted to I wanna two teams that I wanted to discuss before we close out on the show is is based the Bills and the Ravens. I would like to know we can we can s we can start with you, Lei. I would like to know your views on the Bills and the Ravens. Like, do you think like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson? I know we've been talking a lot about the NFC, but you think like Josh Allen Lamar You know, Lamar Jackson can finally get over the hump and probably get into the playoffs. KC is not the same. So, like, you know, what you think? LayTheDon: So this is my thing. So and this is not just me being a Cowboys fan, but Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: I feel like Lamar Jackson, Zat Prescott, and Josh Allen are all in the same boat when it comes to finishing the job. Them three quarterbacks specifically can can be explosive during the the the regular season, but somehow some way playoff season happens and all of kind of just lose their marbles, basically. I feel like they We all three corner granted they only talk about they talk about Dak mo most before, even though Dak and Lamar and Josh Allen do the same exact thing. They talk more about Dak than they talk about us. And I feel like if they can just get past, like it's like those last like three or four games right before playoff. For some reason, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and Dak can't freaking produce. And I feel like I don't know, I'm not gonna say Weather wise, I would say weather was continue because for some team, some teams for some reason playing in winter weathers just don't work for that team. GoFredo: Mm. LayTheDon: But I don't know if it that's the only like consensus as if can figure out as to why these three quarterbacks specifically can't seem to get past this playoff pump. Like y'all Kevin: Okay. LayTheDon: got weapons on their team. They all got weapons, they all got heavy hitters on these teams. I don't know if it's just the pressure of playoffs or what it is. I feel like they can, they, they can't, they can definitely find it. But I do feel like as far as where they're gonna be next year, if they don't produce this year, because it's like it's been a long time. These teams have not been these quarterbacks haven't been making it past this hub. And I feel like there's going these teams gonna look start looking in a different direction when it comes to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson if they can't get past that. GoFredo: Ooh, that's strong. Strong opinion. LayTheDon: I feel like they gonna start they gonna start looking at some other they were talking about it with Lamar for sure. Josh, I like I feel like if Kevin: Yeah, LayTheDon: they can't produce this year, there is gonna be some talk about a different direction. GoFredo: Ooh, that's tough. What about you, Kev? What you thinking about them? Kevin: Cool man. I I agree with some of what you're saying, because at the end of the day, when you have this type of tenure in the league, how much have you actually got done? You know what I mean? We i we're I think when it comes to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Dak, it's deeper than making the playoffs now. You gotta you gotta you gotta get to the dance at this point, you know what mean? And you haven't done that. So when I go Now I'll say this. last year, I think it was unfortunate Lamar was hurt. So that did ultimately LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. Kevin: impact, you know, the way things played out in the playoffs. Now, the way they went out, unfortunate Lamar, you know, he had you know, he had a bad play, and then Mark Andrews dropped a big I mean a crucial, a crucial ball, you know what mean? And it's unfortunate, but it but it happened that way. Josh Allen, I you know what? I I My opinion of Josh Allen, I think he's a good player. he's productive, but there's some there's some things there that are a little you know, I kinda wanna see more out of him in a way. You know, he's a high producer, but he also leads in turnovers and c as far as the top ten quarterbacks in the league, he's leading in turnovers, you know. So I GoFredo: Believe so. Kevin: yeah, I think I he may be number one in turnovers out of those top ten quarterbacks. He may be number one. Yeah, I think we gotta pull up the the stats on that. But he's you know, he's up there in turnovers. So, no, I think I think this is a this is a big year. This is definitely a big year for Josh Allen because he's got a you know, he's got a lot to prove. He's got a lot to prove this year. GoFredo: think in in my opinion I I'm I think that I agree with I agree with and so right and to to go to what you said to the number one leading turnovers so I this is this is just last season Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: in NFL quarterbacks in during the twenty twenty five season it was actually Sam Darnold Two Bo Champs, Sam Darnold. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: had twenty. then Geno Smith, then two Justin Herbert and then Trevor Lawrence and we gonna get into Justin Herbert on next week episode 'cause I got I got some I got some comments for his ass. Kevin: Well I was gonna say, but I and I was gonna say and that's strictly out of the top our our top ten quarterbacks, so you know. You know what I mean? So GoFredo: Yeah. I think I think I think I think Josh Allen may be in the top in like the last ten years or six years or something like that. Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: we'll definitely have to look into that more. I'm looking at it right now. recently in twenty twenty five Josh Allen had ten s ten turnovers, seven first fum seven fum seven fumbles. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: said 25, I'm sorry. He had 10 interceptions, seven fumbles, and twenty-four, six interceptions, five fumbles. In twenty-three, it was eighteen interceptions, seven fumbles. And in twenty-two, we talking fourteen interceptions and thirteen fumbles. So I do think, Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: I think overall in like the last 10 like six or something like that years, like he's in the top. So I we'll definitely get that information, fact check and put that in our social media. after this episode drops. but for me, I think that my thing is with Lamar Jackson. I think that I think that maybe this year or next year be the year he gets over the hump. I think with Lamar Jackson the difference between him and the other quarterbacks is that Lamar just hasn't had an elite receiver like the rest. I think Zay Flowers, you know, he was the first Pro Bowl receivers in Ravens history, if I'm not mistaken. Or close to it, maybe I think, yeah, in Ravens history, he was the first Pro Bowl receiver to make it to the Pro Bowl. And so and even then, no disrespect to him, but Brody only like five nine, five ten. And there's no disrespect Kevin: Really? GoFredo: to him, but that does play a factor whether people want to realize it or not. and you know, people will say, well, Tyreek Hill and and Patrick Mahomes, but you know, the man also got Travis Kelsey, who's a Hall of Famer at tight end. Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and it's no disrespect to Mark Andrews, but Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews are in two different categories. so I do think that I don't know about them looking for new starting quarterbacks next year. I know they floated over with Lamar a few times, but you're not getting rid Lamar Jackson, I just be honest. or Josh Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: Allen. I think Josh Allen, the pressure for Josh Allen is so much higher now because he now has an VP, he has a different level, he finally got him a Kevin: And GoFredo: another number one receiver with DJ Moore. And so it's gonna be interesting to see how they play out. but I'm curious to see how they how they do well. My my money on Lamar Jackson, I think that Lamar Jackson is is capable of doing some things, Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: especially with that Ravens defense. But it's like what Lay said, like it was a point in time to where, you know, what k well what Lay said, it's a point in time where you gotta make some plays to get over the hump. And I mean, we can say things about like like Josh Allen two years ago, was it two years ago or last year, where I think Dalton Kincaid dropped a dropped a pass, then a few years ago back then, Stephon Diggs dropped the pass. But then it's also, and then it goes to Lamar Jackson with Mark Andrews dropping the pass, you know, for the two point conversion. But at the same time, Lamar also fumbled the ball earlier in the game. Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: So you got these type of things that, you know, just the greats don't don't make those mistakes and whatnot. And I do think they're great quarterbacks of this generation. I do think we're looking at the, you know, the Tom Brady, the Phillip Rivers, the Drew Brees, the Peyton Manning. I think these are the guys of our j of of this generation moving forward. and especially now that, you know, we'll talk about this more with the next episode with Kansas City not being that Kansas City dynasty not being what it used to be. They got Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: room to now make some things happen. But now here go the Broncos. And Bo Nix is playing extremely well with that number one defense. So Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: that window is closing really, really fast for the Ravens in Buffalo. Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: 'Cause Bo Nix is, you know, he just got to the league not too long ago. So it's just like Kevin: Mm-hmm. LayTheDon: Good. GoFredo: it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out. But before we close the show, Lei, Super Bowl picks, what you got? Who you got going to the Super Bowl? We're gonna put the we gon we gonna we're gonna stamp this. LayTheDon: Top three, top three, top three right now, not in any particular order. GoFredo: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Kevin: we wanna know what we'll match up. GoFredo: Who is she talking about some Hey hey Kim, she talking about some. Let me see. Top thirty, we going no no no. It's two teams, AFC and NFC. Who you got? LayTheDon: Dallas. GoFredo: Here we go. I need a drink. Kevin: And here we go. LayTheDon: We can't wait to post it. Dallas. And or see that's a I was I I either gotta go with the Rams or or or the Broncos. I honestly say see one of those two teams making it. One of those three teams making it. One of those GoFredo: That's a beautiful Super Bowl. That's a beautiful Super Bowl. LayTheDon: three teams making it. GoFredo: So you got so you got you got NFC Cowboys and Rams. I give you that because that's team. And then on the AFC, you got the Broncos. That's tough. I like that Super Bowl matchup. What about you, Kev? Who you got? Kevin: That's nice. That's a nice pick. And I'm gonna say this. that's a good pick because I'ma I'ma say it again. Denver was an injury away from being in the bowl last year. So I'm I I I I don't know. I don't know. That's a really that's a good that's a GoFredo: Broncos, boy. Kevin: real good pick. but for me, I'm going with the Rams. I think that defense is just gonna be explosive. So I don't know. I don't know what the league's gonna do about that. But I think there's a lot of pressure this year. We just talked about those two quarterbacks. I'm going with my man Lamar Jackson. So we'll we're gonna see. We're gonna see how that goes. LayTheDon: Lom you GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: you going with Lamar to the Super Bowl? Kevin: I'm taking Lamar to the Super Bowl. That's for me, for Lamar is Super Bowl or nothing. LayTheDon: If he can stay healthy, maybe. If he can stay healthy the entire season, maybe. GoFredo: He he don't I mean he usually can't. Hey, you know what? I ain't gonna say too much because I got the Rams and the Ravens. I got Rams Ravens Super Bowl. I did now listen, Kevin: Hey man, there it is. There it is. GoFredo: I I will say I did have Seattle repeating. I did have Seattle repeating. I thought Seattle defense, I thought Seattle defense would get them there again. I thought I think Sam Darnold, he's at another level right now to where he's at least playing consistent football where he's not losing you games. But I But then when I I went back and looked at the Rams team again, like even without Aaron Donald, like that team is still scary. Like that team is still that's Kevin: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: a bad team that to to deal with. And I think it's just, you know, barn injuries, but you know, injuries are part of the game. So I'm going Rams, Ravens. That's who I got. And you know, hey y'all, look, tech this out. LayTheDon: Do y'all do y'all think the officers wanna actually repeat what they did for their first game? I quit quick curiosity. GoFredo: You say who? LayTheDon: Do you think that the Seahawks are going to repeat what they did during the Super Bowl before their first game on curiosity or do you think they're gonna fall off? GoFredo: I think they'll beat the Patriots. I still don't think the Patriots fix a offensive line issue to really stop Kevin: They didn't GoFredo: the Seattle pass rush from protecting Drake May. I do think that I do think the Patriots also, no disrespect to my New England fans, I do think they caught a lot of they didn't have a very tough schedule. last year was a very favorable schedule. is I mean, but you I mean you gotta win your game, so I'm not taking nothing away from them. But at the same time I still think Seattle is better from top to bottom. I think they got better Kevin: Yeah. GoFredo: weapons on the outside. I know I know they lost their Super Bowl V P, but at the same time JS Center's a top three receiver in his game. and they got a top three defense. So I do you know, the Patriots they not know slouch, but I just don't think their offensive line I don't think they fixed that offensive line problem. to like stop Kevin: Mm. GoFredo: what, you know, not not just what Seattle does, but what the Ravens do or anything like that. I think if the Patriots can find a way to get to the Super Bowl again, I just don't think you're stopping what the NFC brings defensively, whether you play the Eagles, whether you play the Rams, whether you play Seattle, you know, I mean unless you play the Cowboys, then you know, we might have a great Super Bowl then. But other than that, I just don't think that they'll be able to you know, they defense will be but I mean but actually Dallas got Quinn Williams, so I don't I don't think they're gonna be able to block him. So it's just like I don't I don't think that their offensive line is is sure enough to kinda get over the hump to win a Super Bowl just yet. So I got Seattle winning week one. before we close, who y'all got we win winning the first game Wednesday? LayTheDon: I think that one's gonna be closer than it was during the Super Bowl for sure. most teams the first game after the Super Bowl don't really perform as well as they did during the Super Bowl. GoFredo: Ja. LayTheDon: but I still gotta Seahawks winning. GoFredo: Okay, all right. What about you, Cal? You got you got New England and Seattle? Kevin: I'm still going Seattle. now GoFredo: Okay. Kevin: I do think I do think offensively, Seattle may have lost a step offensively. But I I I just LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. Kevin: think I just think they're a little too good for for New England. and I'm gonna say this about New England. I I think after their performance, I don't I don't I don't know what to expect from them offensively. but to GoFredo: Mm. Kevin: your point, I don't think that line is quite ready to go. I don't think AJ Brown is gonna get the the looks he's expecting to get in New England. So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes across the season. GoFredo: I mean, he they number one guy. Drake Major's gonna to throw it to him. That's what he gonna be happy for. So he LayTheDon: The thing. GoFredo: he gonna get a lot of recepts, that's for sure. A lot of targets. That's gotta say that, that's for sure. But hey, LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: I'm loving this. I'm loving what we got going here. This was excited. This is episode one for our for our sports section of this for our podcast. We got a lot more coming. Just know at next episode you see, one of them two people are gonna be wearing a different jersey. A different so just be excited for that. We're gonna be discussing that. Hey, listen, after Sunday, it's gonna be bragging rights. Our social media gonna be booming. One of these two people gonna be bragging Monday. That's all I know. By Monday, one of them gonna be bragging. So listen, this is for the exchange. This is exciting to get this going. Man, listen, foe is out. Peace.