Latest / The Rita Panahi Show / The Rita Panahi Show | 12 November
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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scorn lives Ostrodia. This is the Wider Paney Show.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panehy Show.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, the Victorian government is finally getting tough
- 0:14Speaker 3: on crime by copying Queensland's adult crime Adult time laws.
- 0:20Speaker 3: Nikata will join me to discuss the day's top headlines.
- 0:23Speaker 3: The Great Douglas Murray will be here and we'll do
- 0:25Speaker 3: a deep dive into the BBC's sad decline as a
- 0:30Speaker 3: trusted broadcaster. Jack Houghton will unpack the latest controversy in
- 0:35Speaker 3: broiling our taxpayer funded public broadcaster and C J. Pearson
- 0:40Speaker 3: will have the latest news from the US and Left
- 0:43Speaker 3: is losing. It features a bigot with a septum ring
- 0:47Speaker 3: misusing the word fascist.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Turning point, UNISA should not be here and they are
- 0:52Speaker 4: like a fascist organization and nobody here agrees with what
- 0:56Speaker 4: they are saying.
- 0:58Speaker 3: We'll start in Victoria, where offenders age fourteen and above
- 1:01Speaker 3: face possible life sentences under new laws. The Allen Labor
- 1:04Speaker 3: government has announced to address ramp and youth crime dubbed
- 1:08Speaker 3: adult Time for violent crime. Labour's new laws mark a
- 1:12Speaker 3: major overhaul of the Victorian justice system and will mean
- 1:16Speaker 3: anyone who is more than fourteen years of age and
- 1:18Speaker 3: is charged with home invasion, carjackings, or intentionally or recklessly
- 1:23Speaker 3: causing injury in circumstances of gross violence will face trial
- 1:28Speaker 3: in the county court, not the children's court.
- 1:31Speaker 2: The government insists the laws will be.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Introduced by the end of the week, though it has
- 1:35Speaker 3: not yet written the legislation. Joining me now for more
- 1:38Speaker 3: on this is Menzi's Research Center.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Senior fellow Nick Cator. Nick, it was only last month where.
- 1:45Speaker 3: I called on the just into Alan government to emulate
- 1:48Speaker 3: Queensland's successful adult time adult crime laws, and they seem
- 1:54Speaker 3: to be doing just that.
- 1:56Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we should call this the Panahi law.
- 1:58Speaker 5: They're instituting that. Well done you and the Herald Sanna.
- 2:02Speaker 5: You've been pointing this out for some time. You know,
- 2:05Speaker 5: as many of us in my columns. You know, there's
- 2:07Speaker 5: a simple way to reduce the amount of crime in Melbourne,
- 2:11Speaker 5: and that's to put more criminals in jail for longer.
- 2:14Speaker 5: It's not actually rocket science. But you know, as we
- 2:17Speaker 5: pointed out before, Victoria has the lowest rates of imprisonment
- 2:22Speaker 5: for these sort of offenses of any state in the country.
- 2:26Speaker 5: It also has the emptiest prisons, and they're particularly bad
- 2:29Speaker 5: at jailing anybody under I don't know, forty five or something.
- 2:34Speaker 5: They seem to go very soft time they get somebody
- 2:36Speaker 5: of a tender age in there. But these are serious
- 2:39Speaker 5: crimes we're talking about, and frightening crimes in the use
- 2:43Speaker 5: of violence. Home invasion is a horrible thing to experience,
- 2:47Speaker 5: whether or not violence is used, and so is carjacking.
- 2:52Speaker 5: It's a very intrusive way to behave and we don't
- 2:55Speaker 5: want these fourteen year olds on the road by the way,
- 2:58Speaker 5: I don't know, possibly going to a fourteen in Victoria,
- 3:02Speaker 5: but of course not, none of these kids can actually drive.
- 3:05Speaker 5: So yes, we need laws that keep these kids in jail,
- 3:11Speaker 5: keep them in jail, and take away this presumption there
- 3:14Speaker 5: is for bail as well, because you know you're not
- 3:19Speaker 5: guilty because you've been arrested, but it's probably a good
- 3:21Speaker 5: chance you are, right, So you want to reduce the
- 3:24Speaker 5: amount of crime, take criminals off the street.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Well, it's the just the repeated bail applications that are granted.
- 3:34Speaker 2: You have people just.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Getting out on bail, getting arrested, being before the courts,
- 3:39Speaker 3: getting bail again, and it's just a sorry cycle. This
- 3:44Speaker 3: is a big departure for the Victorian government. It wasn't
- 3:47Speaker 3: too long ago they were talking about raising the age
- 3:50Speaker 3: of criminal responsibility. Now they're introducing these harsh penalties for
- 3:57Speaker 3: youth offenders as young as fourteen. I've gotten to say
- 4:00Speaker 3: the Queensland adult crime adult time.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Laws are far broader.
- 4:05Speaker 3: The list of offenses there is far broader than what
- 4:10Speaker 3: Victoria has, so I think that may have to tweak
- 4:13Speaker 3: it further. Now to a controversial native title claim made
- 4:17Speaker 3: by Victoria's we're injury people covering thousands of square kilometers
- 4:22Speaker 3: of land across Melbourne and surrounds. Let's hear from one
- 4:26Speaker 3: of the eleven applicants involved in this claim. This is
- 4:30Speaker 3: war in juryman, Darcy Cohen Hunter. Why did you decide
- 4:35Speaker 3: to launch this claim?
- 4:36Speaker 5: Why is it extremely important to you and your people?
- 4:40Speaker 6: I guess it's something that's been happening a long time
- 4:43Speaker 6: in the making for generations, and it's important to us
- 4:47Speaker 6: that we have a say in the lands and waters
- 4:50Speaker 6: that we have been caring for for generations. And obviously
- 4:56Speaker 6: this is incredibly proud moment for our mob. And yeah,
- 5:00Speaker 6: it's about that recognition and the formal recognition, that is,
- 5:03Speaker 6: and being able to practice our culture and have to
- 5:06Speaker 6: say in the land.
- 5:11Speaker 3: Nick Victoria has a permanent Indigenous voice, state based voice
- 5:16Speaker 3: and treaty. We shouldn't be surprised that we've got cases
- 5:21Speaker 3: like this happening. And it's not just this particular claim.
- 5:25Speaker 2: There is six others before the courts.
- 5:29Speaker 5: Well, that's right, you called him a Warren jury man.
- 5:32Speaker 5: I think reason I think you've forgot the correct term
- 5:35Speaker 5: is a proud Warren jury man. We always have to
- 5:37Speaker 5: say proud. I'd like to said it comes before a fall.
- 5:40Speaker 5: But with Victoria here, Yeah, we're dealing with Victoria here,
- 5:45Speaker 5: and this will be taken seriously. It's probably a very
- 5:49Speaker 5: good chance they'll get their claim. They'll be able to
- 5:52Speaker 5: decide what you do with your parks, your recreational spaces,
- 5:56Speaker 5: your aquatic centers, you know, anything that is owned by
- 6:00Speaker 5: the government. Then they get to say they essentially get
- 6:04Speaker 5: a land grab on this. It's completely against the spirit
- 6:09Speaker 5: of the referendum. Last year we had land legislation, land
- 6:13Speaker 5: rights legislation, which gives Aboriginal people Inferi at least control
- 6:18Speaker 5: of more than half the land mass of Australia. They
- 6:22Speaker 5: don't of course get it because it goes into the
- 6:24Speaker 5: hands of land councils and individual Aboriginal people are not
- 6:27Speaker 5: allowed to buy a plot of land to build a
- 6:29Speaker 5: house if that's what they want to do. Because we
- 6:31Speaker 5: have this strange idea that socialism is what provails in
- 6:35Speaker 5: central Australia. But you know, where does it stop? I
- 6:39Speaker 5: think that's the point most Australians will be asking. And
- 6:42Speaker 5: one of the reasons the voice was defeated. One of
- 6:45Speaker 5: the many reasons the voice was defeated with people just said, well,
- 6:48Speaker 5: when does it stop? When do we reach reconciliation? When
- 6:51Speaker 5: do these people turn around and say that's enough, You've
- 6:54Speaker 5: done everything you can possibly do. We're happy now. Never,
- 6:57Speaker 5: because this is activism.
- 7:01Speaker 2: No, I think never is right there now.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Monash University students have complained at their degrees exude whiteness.
- 7:10Speaker 3: This is in a Monash Student Association survey of five
- 7:13Speaker 3: hundred and seventy six students.
- 7:15Speaker 2: The Student Union's Racism.
- 7:17Speaker 3: And Diversity Report claims the university demonstrates and I quote
- 7:21Speaker 3: here clear favoritism towards white students and racism because lecturers
- 7:28Speaker 3: ask students to please speak.
- 7:30Speaker 2: English and it has.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Demanded the university undertake an immediate and comprehensive review of
- 7:36Speaker 3: its curriculum across all faculties to identify and dismantle Eurocentric
- 7:42Speaker 3: exclusionary practices. Nick, I'm not exactly sure what language other
- 7:48Speaker 3: than English is acceptable at an Australian university.
- 7:54Speaker 5: Well, we're in jury, I suppose in Melbourne. I don't know,
- 7:56Speaker 5: you know better than I do. Look, this is absurd.
- 7:59Speaker 5: Is the language of the country. We're doing people a
- 8:01Speaker 5: disfavor if we don't insist they learn English and speak
- 8:04Speaker 5: it very well, particularly if they're studying, you know, higher education.
- 8:09Speaker 5: You've got to have a bit of a brain on
- 8:11Speaker 5: if you can't study any course. You should not be
- 8:14Speaker 5: able to study any course in Australian university without speaking English.
- 8:18Speaker 5: The idea that English is somehow whiteness, you know. I
- 8:21Speaker 5: mean this will cover as a lot of surprise to
- 8:23Speaker 5: many of my Indian friends, who speak much better English
- 8:25Speaker 5: than some of us. You know, a very good retentive
- 8:28Speaker 5: to grammar and those sort of details. It is absurd.
- 8:32Speaker 5: And I noticed that in another response, it was rather
- 8:35Speaker 5: mixed response from students another group. Another student said, well, look,
- 8:39Speaker 5: I go to class and everybody speaks Chinese, and when
- 8:42Speaker 5: I asked to speak English, everybody tells me I'm being racist.
- 8:45Speaker 5: You know, we have to have the It's challenging to
- 8:49Speaker 5: have so many overseas students, but they should come here
- 8:52Speaker 5: and speak English. We are doing them a great favor
- 8:56Speaker 5: if they speak the language, which is the common language
- 8:59Speaker 5: in most of the world. We're giving them a great
- 9:02Speaker 5: helped speak good English.
- 9:07Speaker 3: Well, we know why, the motivations for why some of
- 9:10Speaker 3: them do their degrees here. But you would think the
- 9:14Speaker 3: cost and the trouble you go to to study in
- 9:18Speaker 3: Australia if you're an overseas students, like you said, one
- 9:21Speaker 3: of the benefits is that you improve your English and
- 9:23Speaker 3: you become fluent. Nikita, thank you so much for your
- 9:27Speaker 3: time tonight.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Joining me now.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Is the author of groundbreaking works, international best sellers, including
- 9:33Speaker 3: The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds, The
- 9:36Speaker 3: War on the West, and his latest on democracies and
- 9:39Speaker 3: death cult. Douglas Murray let's get into the BBC the
- 9:44Speaker 3: Trump scandal. It's not isolated, it's not a simple misjudgment.
- 9:49Speaker 3: But there are plenty in the UK, including journalists and
- 9:52Speaker 3: editor Kevin McGuire who claim otherwise.
- 9:57Speaker 7: Now, I am no defender of Trump, but I'm no
- 9:59Speaker 7: defender of the li lousey bent journalism either, And I'm
- 10:02Speaker 7: sorry that Panorama documentary was lousy.
- 10:04Speaker 5: Ben Trump was.
- 10:08Speaker 7: A defender of the Proud Boys and white supremacistologized in
- 10:12Speaker 7: the fact you you were taking right, you were taking
- 10:16Speaker 7: a twelve to fifteen second clip in a full, full program,
- 10:22Speaker 7: very full program that was broadcast a year ago. And
- 10:26Speaker 7: I'm not aware of any big public complaints about about it.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Douglas, what's your response to that.
- 10:36Speaker 8: Well, Kevin McGuire in the UK is quite well known
- 10:39Speaker 8: as a sort of left wing blow hard, and what
- 10:43Speaker 8: he said there just adds insult injury. There really is
- 10:47Speaker 8: no defending what the BBC has been caught doing.
- 10:52Speaker 1: What McGuire does.
- 10:53Speaker 8: There is add to that offense by claiming that throwing
- 10:58Speaker 8: out are they completely untrue smears against President Trump, like
- 11:02Speaker 8: him supporting white supremacists. I mean, that's just the that's
- 11:06Speaker 8: the very fine people hoax. But no, I mean, you know,
- 11:11Speaker 8: he and other activists like him will you know, will keep.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Spreading their untruths.
- 11:17Speaker 8: But the fact is is that the BBC has been
- 11:20Speaker 8: caught out in a set of really really disgraceful lies.
- 11:26Speaker 8: The most prominent one is this to do with editing
- 11:30Speaker 8: President Trump's speech on January the sixth, to suggest that
- 11:34Speaker 8: he said that he would that the protesters has gathered
- 11:38Speaker 8: together should engage in violence by fighting and of course
- 11:43Speaker 8: all the terrible things that did go on that day.
- 11:46Speaker 1: That was not what the.
- 11:47Speaker 8: President said in his remarks, and Panoramas simply spliced two
- 11:51Speaker 8: quotes together that that gave a very clear impression that
- 11:57Speaker 8: President Trump was indeed urging go and fight.
- 12:00Speaker 1: But that's not the only thing.
- 12:03Speaker 8: This is such a huge download of errors by the
- 12:07Speaker 8: BBC that there are other things that have got lost
- 12:09Speaker 8: in it. One of them is the BBC's proven serial
- 12:15Speaker 8: lies about Israel during the Israel hamas more unbelievable way
- 12:22Speaker 8: in which BBC Arabic, which frankly should just be canned.
- 12:26Speaker 1: It should be shuttered.
- 12:27Speaker 8: The BBC has no control over it, just welcomes all
- 12:30Speaker 8: these terrorist supporters all the time and gives their anti
- 12:34Speaker 8: Israel views. And then of course there's the stuff on
- 12:38Speaker 8: the trams issue as well.
- 12:40Speaker 5: This is a.
- 12:40Speaker 8: Really disgraceful moment for the BBC, and it's even more
- 12:44Speaker 8: disgraceful that anyone would try to hide it.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're one hundred percent right there. The BBC's
- 12:52Speaker 3: institutional bias goes well beyond Donald Trump, goes beyond Nigel
- 12:56Speaker 3: Farage and the courage of the middle age. Even a
- 13:01Speaker 3: documentary about Bill Cosby a couple of years ago displays
- 13:06Speaker 3: just how lost the BBC is.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Watch some of the nonsense they ed.
- 13:12Speaker 9: If we actually grappled with the fact that sex negativity
- 13:15Speaker 9: is what causes this type of behavior, then we could
- 13:20Speaker 9: create a world where, in a sex idellically sex positive world,
- 13:25Speaker 9: someone is able to pay conscious women to come and
- 13:30Speaker 9: be drugged so that I can get my kink out
- 13:33Speaker 9: my fetish on having sex with unconscious people.
- 13:36Speaker 2: There's a consensual way to do that.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Well, there you go, a therapist promoting an idyllically sex
- 13:43Speaker 3: positive world where men can just fulfill their fetishes by
- 13:48Speaker 3: having sex with unconscious people.
- 13:50Speaker 2: I mean, what am I even hearing, Douglas?
- 13:55Speaker 1: Not just what are you hearing? What are you seeing?
- 13:57Speaker 8: I do want it's momental sex positivity in any way? No,
- 14:03Speaker 8: I mean, look, this is the BBC is so fantastically lost.
- 14:08Speaker 8: By the way, there's a very clear reason for it.
- 14:11Speaker 8: I'm not an enemy of the BBC. I'm a critic
- 14:14Speaker 8: of it. I would like to see the BBC doing
- 14:17Speaker 8: what it has boasted that it's doing, which it hasn't
- 14:19Speaker 8: done for years, but which it has done at times
- 14:21Speaker 8: in the past, which is to provide genuinely impartial journalism
- 14:27Speaker 8: and a place where people can agree that there is
- 14:29Speaker 8: a sort of non biased, fact based channel with all
- 14:36Speaker 8: of its subsidiary channels which you can go to to
- 14:40Speaker 8: get a trusted news source. And you know, it's just
- 14:43Speaker 8: so characteristic of the BBC and certain other media in
- 14:47Speaker 8: this age. They set up all these things like BBC
- 14:50Speaker 8: Verify to try to prove fake news in other media
- 14:55Speaker 8: and on social media and so on, but they're pumping
- 14:58Speaker 8: out fake news, as the events of the last few
- 15:02Speaker 8: days have shown. I mean, it's just completely unacceptable that
- 15:07Speaker 8: an allegedly non biased platform would be shown to have
- 15:11Speaker 8: extreme bias in so many cases. And the point about
- 15:15Speaker 8: that that needs to come out is, as Lord Moore,
- 15:18Speaker 8: Charles Moore pointed out the other day, the bias and
- 15:22Speaker 8: the BBC always goes in one direction. You know, it's
- 15:27Speaker 8: never it's never like accidentally biased in favor of Nigel Farage.
- 15:34Speaker 8: It's never accidentally biased against illegal migrants. It's never accidentally
- 15:41Speaker 8: biased in favor of biological reality.
- 15:44Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's.
- 15:46Speaker 8: Always the same metropolitan left wing tropes, the anti Israelism,
- 15:51Speaker 8: the anti Trumpism.
- 15:53Speaker 1: And so on.
- 15:53Speaker 8: And it's because these journalists at the BBC, which used
- 15:57Speaker 8: to be I stress again, it used to be a
- 15:59Speaker 8: real bastion. There were serious reporters, fact checkers, editors, presenters
- 16:04Speaker 8: and much more. It's a place which represents one particular
- 16:09Speaker 8: viewpoint and they have the right to do that if
- 16:12Speaker 8: they want to become a private, privately owned company and
- 16:17Speaker 8: not take attacks from every household in the UK that
- 16:21Speaker 8: owns the television in order to push this as being
- 16:25Speaker 8: a mainstream it's it's it's it's so well documented now
- 16:31Speaker 8: this one directional bias. And I hope that what we've
- 16:34Speaker 8: seen with the resignation of the director general and the
- 16:36Speaker 8: head of News isn't thought to be just the solution
- 16:40Speaker 8: to the problem.
- 16:40Speaker 1: It isn't. The problem is institutional in.
- 16:43Speaker 8: The BBC until it is a safe space for conservative
- 16:48Speaker 8: minded journalists and others to discuss openly and editorial meetings
- 16:52Speaker 8: and elsewhere the sorts of things that they should be covering,
- 16:55Speaker 8: then it has no right to claim impartiality.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Well, it has a huge number of staff, huge number
- 17:04Speaker 3: of journalists, producers. How many of them are conservative? How
- 17:09Speaker 3: many of the ones who have programs, who are hosts
- 17:12Speaker 3: or anchors on radio, on television are conservatives. It's very
- 17:17Speaker 3: easy just to determine.
- 17:19Speaker 2: That the bias there.
- 17:20Speaker 3: And as you said, they're taxpayer funded, so they have
- 17:23Speaker 3: a charter.
- 17:24Speaker 2: They're obliged to be balanced.
- 17:27Speaker 3: And when it comes to biological reality, as you mentioned
- 17:30Speaker 3: the trans issue, Douglas, they're not much better there either,
- 17:34Speaker 3: are they.
- 17:36Speaker 5: No?
- 17:36Speaker 1: I mean it's on all of these issues.
- 17:38Speaker 5: You know.
- 17:39Speaker 8: Recently one of the newscasters got into some trouble because
- 17:43Speaker 8: she had to read out a line about what was
- 17:45Speaker 8: it birthing people? And and she sort of said women,
- 17:50Speaker 8: you know, slightly rolled her eyes and got into trouble
- 17:52Speaker 8: for that.
- 17:55Speaker 1: You know, it all goes back to that thing you
- 17:57Speaker 1: just mentioned, Rita.
- 17:59Speaker 8: How many non left wing liberals are in the BBC.
- 18:04Speaker 8: I don't actually know now if there are any. Some
- 18:07Speaker 8: twenty years ago I knew some.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I used to get together with some of them socially
- 18:12Speaker 1: out of ours.
- 18:13Speaker 8: I used to joke to them that the small group
- 18:16Speaker 8: of conservatives in the BBC and we used to meet
- 18:18Speaker 8: in a pub or a bar and talk about things.
- 18:21Speaker 8: They used to joke that they behaved nineteen fifties homosexuals.
- 18:25Speaker 1: You know, they had to have a sort.
- 18:27Speaker 8: Of secret code and you hope that no one at
- 18:31Speaker 8: work could guess their dirty little.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Secret and so on. But that's just appalling.
- 18:37Speaker 8: You know, at least fifty percent of the country have
- 18:40Speaker 8: no representation in the editorial process of presenting and much more.
- 18:46Speaker 8: And again you can tell the one directional bias from
- 18:49Speaker 8: the fact that when BBC presenters and others leave, like
- 18:54Speaker 8: there's a group of them used to be at Newsnight,
- 18:56Speaker 8: they left and set up their own sort of podcast.
- 18:58Speaker 8: What is the thing they do once the guardrails of
- 19:01Speaker 8: the pretense of impartiality you're off. They're all campaigning anti Trump,
- 19:06Speaker 8: anti conservative, anti Tory, left wing activists. It's always like
- 19:11Speaker 8: that when they leave the BBC, the thin veneer that
- 19:16Speaker 8: they had whilst they are at it completely disappears.
- 19:19Speaker 1: And I'm afraid that's still going on.
- 19:21Speaker 8: You have presenters like Nick Robinson, a well known leftist
- 19:24Speaker 8: and doesn't really manage to hide it on air, extremely
- 19:28Speaker 8: disagreeable to any Conservatives interviewing people by Nick Robinson are
- 19:31Speaker 8: trying to cover this up even now this week by
- 19:34Speaker 8: pretending they're sort of no problem here really, So I
- 19:37Speaker 8: don't see any signing the BBC's actually going to reform.
- 19:42Speaker 10: You know.
- 19:43Speaker 3: One of the things I love about social media, particularly
- 19:46Speaker 3: x or Twitter as it used to be called, is
- 19:49Speaker 3: the way it has removed that veneer because you have
- 19:51Speaker 3: these individuals on social media putting out their opinions and
- 19:55Speaker 3: then you can see why they report the way they do.
- 19:59Speaker 3: And it's one thing to in the opinion game, like
- 20:01Speaker 3: you and I are in a state our opinions, but
- 20:03Speaker 3: we're supposed to be a news reporter and completely impartial.
- 20:07Speaker 2: It's a different thing.
- 20:09Speaker 3: And I just want to play a little clip about
- 20:11Speaker 3: how the BBC covers trans issues now.
- 20:16Speaker 11: Transgender woman's milk is just as good for babies as
- 20:19Speaker 11: breast milk. That's according to a letter from the medical
- 20:22Speaker 11: director her University Hospital Sussex and HS Foundation Trust. The
- 20:27Speaker 11: claim was made as part of a response against campaign groups.
- 20:30Speaker 11: The Trust referred to studies and the World Health Organization guidance,
- 20:34Speaker 11: including one case which found what it called no observable
- 20:38Speaker 11: effects in babies fed by induced lactation.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Douglas.
- 20:44Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe you can take a cocktail of
- 20:45Speaker 3: drugs and start lactating and feeding a child and it'll
- 20:50Speaker 3: just be just as good as mother's milk. I mean, really,
- 20:53Speaker 3: the institutional bias is not just how they present a
- 20:57Speaker 3: story and how they frame it, but also it's often
- 21:00Speaker 3: with the guest selection and the story selection itself.
- 21:05Speaker 8: Yes, I mean in that case, I'm not going to
- 21:06Speaker 8: take you up when you're offer of that cocktail if
- 21:08Speaker 8: you don't mind reta.
- 21:10Speaker 1: I prefer a straight up martini myself. But no, that's
- 21:14Speaker 1: an absolutely classic one, isn't it. How could whatever the
- 21:18Speaker 1: secretion is that.
- 21:19Speaker 8: Comes out of somebody who's trying to change the pretense
- 21:25Speaker 8: of biological sex, whatever cocktail it is that comes out,
- 21:30Speaker 8: that will be pumped full of the hormones that the
- 21:33Speaker 8: person in question is taking, How could that possibly be
- 21:37Speaker 8: as good as mother's milk.
- 21:38Speaker 1: This is the sort of thing which the.
- 21:40Speaker 8: BBC will push as part of the trans extremist agenda,
- 21:44Speaker 8: and they don't have to, you know, they could have
- 21:46Speaker 8: taken a completely reasonable view all the whole way along,
- 21:49Speaker 8: like some of us did, which is things like, you know,
- 21:52Speaker 8: let's look into this a bit more, because it seems
- 21:55Speaker 8: to be, you know that there's an awful lot to
- 21:58Speaker 8: look into here, and let's not make up acts.
- 22:00Speaker 1: But they want to because they want to push a
- 22:03Speaker 1: particular agenda.
- 22:04Speaker 8: And as I say, it's all in one direction repeatedly,
- 22:10Speaker 8: it's never the it's never the gender woo woo critical thing.
- 22:14Speaker 1: It falls into the direction of.
- 22:17Speaker 8: It's all this kind of you know, and I'm amazed
- 22:20Speaker 8: that she didn't end up saying or claiming that actually,
- 22:23Speaker 8: trans lady estrogen testosterone milk is actually best and we
- 22:29Speaker 8: should all gulp it down all day otherwise we're bigots.
- 22:34Speaker 8: I mean, it's so preposterous and you can see through it,
- 22:38Speaker 8: and this should have had a big halt to it
- 22:41Speaker 8: a long time ago. But just one other thing on
- 22:43Speaker 8: that readA you mentioned the guests absolutely the case as
- 22:48Speaker 8: anyone can see. The last time I was on the BBC,
- 22:50Speaker 8: I invited on on Newsnight and the presenter did what
- 22:52Speaker 8: he always does with anyone who's not a card carrying
- 22:56Speaker 8: a socialist, and he basically treats anyone of views as
- 23:02Speaker 8: a convict a waiting sentence. They treat you like you're
- 23:08Speaker 8: a month criminal in the dock and they've they've already
- 23:13Speaker 8: decided you're guilty. And then meantime they'll get some radical
- 23:19Speaker 8: left wing lawyer, you know, who represents, you know, the
- 23:22Speaker 8: most disgraceful and disgusting people in society, and they'll present
- 23:25Speaker 8: them as you know, like human rights champion and all that.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Sort of thing.
- 23:30Speaker 8: It's really transparent and it's really despicable for a broadcaster
- 23:34Speaker 8: that pretends to have impartiality.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Now, before you go, Remembrance Day was a yesterday and
- 23:43Speaker 3: this clip of a one hundred year old World War
- 23:46Speaker 3: Two veteran Alec Pinstone on Good Morning Britain went viral
- 23:50Speaker 3: in recent days.
- 23:52Speaker 2: Have a quick look.
- 23:53Speaker 11: What does Remembrance Sunday mean for you?
- 23:56Speaker 2: What is your message?
- 23:58Speaker 12: My message is I can share in my mind's I
- 24:03Speaker 12: rose and rose of white stones, of all the hundreds
- 24:07Speaker 12: of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives
- 24:11Speaker 12: for what the country of today.
- 24:16Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry.
- 24:19Speaker 12: The sacrifice wasn't worth the result that it is now.
- 24:23Speaker 3: That's just so terribly sad, Douglas, that someone who sacrificed
- 24:28Speaker 3: so much for Britain is so dismayed by what it
- 24:32Speaker 3: has become.
- 24:34Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking Rita seeing that.
- 24:38Speaker 8: I don't know exactly, of course, what he was referring to,
- 24:41Speaker 8: but I think we can all make some guesses.
- 24:44Speaker 3: It's heartbreaking that he was talking also about a little
- 24:47Speaker 3: bit about the lack of freedom in Britain.
- 24:50Speaker 2: He mentioned freedom, and I.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Thought that was interesting that he's noticing what is happening
- 24:56Speaker 3: in modern Britain.
- 24:57Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean, unfortunately, the British people now live in
- 25:01Speaker 8: a country, as you and I have discussed before, where
- 25:04Speaker 8: the police will not bother to come and investigate a
- 25:07Speaker 8: home robbery, but they turn up at thousand households every year,
- 25:13Speaker 8: arresting people, putting people in handcuffs, charging people for things
- 25:18Speaker 8: they've said on Twitter that go against the perceived narrative,
- 25:22Speaker 8: the acceptable narrative, the BBC narrative, and much more. And
- 25:27Speaker 8: you know, I don't think that that does mean that
- 25:29Speaker 8: the sacrifices of our forebears were in vain, but my goodness,
- 25:33Speaker 8: it's sad to see that interview, and my goodness, it's
- 25:36Speaker 8: sad to see what Britain has become in recent years
- 25:41Speaker 8: and just look at the fall off, just look at
- 25:43Speaker 8: the fall off in political leadership from the people who
- 25:47Speaker 8: led Great.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Britain in the nineteen eties from all parties.
- 25:52Speaker 8: By the way, consider an Actlye or a Churchill against
- 25:59Speaker 8: what we have today. And yes, it's a very sad
- 26:03Speaker 8: fall off. I'm deeply sad and when I saw that interview,
- 26:07Speaker 8: but I hope that people watching it who have the
- 26:10Speaker 8: same response we have are reminded by it that actually
- 26:14Speaker 8: we have a great inheritance we need to sustain and
- 26:18Speaker 8: not to just continue wrecking.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time.
- 26:24Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Still to come.
- 26:26Speaker 3: Left is Losing It plus the latest controversy in broiling
- 26:31Speaker 3: the ABC.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Jack Houghton joins me, next welcome back. We'll be diving
- 26:47Speaker 2: into Lefties Losing.
- 26:48Speaker 3: It soon, but first, the ABC is ignoring calls for
- 26:51Speaker 3: an investigation into a Four Corners episode in twenty twenty
- 26:54Speaker 3: one which.
- 26:55Speaker 2: EDA doctored a misleading.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Edit of Donald Trump's January sixth beach. It follows the
- 27:01Speaker 3: resignation of the BBC's Director General Tim Davey and head
- 27:05Speaker 3: of News Deborah Turnez for airing similarly doctored footage. This morning,
- 27:10Speaker 3: an ABC spokesperson told the Australian newspaper that it would
- 27:14Speaker 3: not be reviewing the Four Corners episode in question because
- 27:18Speaker 3: the public Broadcaster's Umbertsman's.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Office didn't exist at the time.
- 27:22Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News Digital editor Jack Houghton.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Jack the ABC also claimed that the quoting question from
- 27:30Speaker 3: President Trump was used accurately by the ABC, did not
- 27:34Speaker 3: change the meaning of that section of the speech, and
- 27:37Speaker 3: it did not mislead the audience.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
- 27:41Speaker 13: Well, if it didn't change the meaning, then why did
- 27:44Speaker 13: the editors feel the need to cut out key parts
- 27:47Speaker 13: of the speech which, for the record, for all the viewers,
- 27:50Speaker 13: the parts that they cut out were Donald Trump saying,
- 27:53Speaker 13: let's go down there to cheer on the politicians, So
- 27:57Speaker 13: they take that part out and then they segue straight
- 27:59Speaker 13: to do you have to fight for your country? And
- 28:02Speaker 13: it conveyed it cannoted a meaning that there was this
- 28:06Speaker 13: aggressive push by Donald Trump encouraging violence. Now, they can't
- 28:10Speaker 13: possibly tell us whether or not that changes the meaning, because,
- 28:13Speaker 13: as you point out, reader, they are refusing to even investigate.
- 28:17Speaker 13: And that is the most extraordinary thing about this, the
- 28:20Speaker 13: pathetic attempt by the ABC repeatedly whenever they're called into
- 28:24Speaker 13: question to obsvacate to say that they've never done anything
- 28:28Speaker 13: wrong and in this situation not investigate because the error
- 28:32Speaker 13: isn't contemporaneous. I guess that's where they're going with it.
- 28:36Speaker 13: But reader, as you know, nothing prevents them from going
- 28:38Speaker 13: and looking back from content five years ago, ten years ago.
- 28:42Speaker 13: If the on Budsman's powers, if their remit is so
- 28:45Speaker 13: narrow that they can only look at things that happened
- 28:48Speaker 13: during the time that it was set up, I think
- 28:51Speaker 13: that Australians deserve to know. If that's what the ABC
- 28:54Speaker 13: is actually saying, that everything that predates the on Budsman, well,
- 28:57Speaker 13: that's fair game. We won't even look into it.
- 29:01Speaker 3: And what about that three part Four Corners report that
- 29:05Speaker 3: they had pushing Trump Russia conspiracy theories? They called it,
- 29:10Speaker 3: and I quote here the story of the century, the
- 29:14Speaker 3: election of US President Donald Trump and his ties to Russia.
- 29:18Speaker 3: Have we had any sort of correction, any update when
- 29:22Speaker 3: some of those conspiracy theories were comprehensively debunked.
- 29:28Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, the allegation that was put forward by Four
- 29:30Speaker 13: Corners was very simply and very specifically that Donald Trump
- 29:35Speaker 13: colluded with Vladimir Putin to steal the election. It was
- 29:39Speaker 13: the original election denial claim that was surfaced by the media,
- 29:44Speaker 13: and you paid for it. And these people have never
- 29:46Speaker 13: sought the correct to the record. We now know that
- 29:48Speaker 13: the Komi and all the documents and the entire push
- 29:51Speaker 13: to the American people to try and establish that this
- 29:55Speaker 13: actually happened, we now know that it's completely bogus. There
- 29:59Speaker 13: is no ever And of course Russia tries to influence
- 30:01Speaker 13: every single election. They probably try and influence Australian election.
- 30:05Speaker 13: But the specific narrative was that Donald Trump knowingly worked
- 30:09Speaker 13: with the hand in Glove to attempt to steal an election.
- 30:13Speaker 13: It was the biggest denial of democracy. There was no
- 30:16Speaker 13: evidence for it other than these very strong allegations and
- 30:20Speaker 13: for a story of the century. The ANBC seems to
- 30:22Speaker 13: have gone very quiet on it.
- 30:26Speaker 3: They did, but I think they spent plenty of money
- 30:28Speaker 3: putting that three part series together. I mean Hillary Clinton's
- 30:32Speaker 3: campaign office could have put that together for them, probably
- 30:34Speaker 3: a lot cheaper, could have been less biased as well. Now,
- 30:38Speaker 3: in addition to the Trump edit, the ABC was also
- 30:40Speaker 3: caught out for altering a photograph of Senator Jane Hume
- 30:44Speaker 3: holding a front page It's the Australian newspapers.
- 30:48Speaker 2: It was holding this up in Parliament.
- 30:50Speaker 3: The network initially tried to justify the edit as satire,
- 30:54Speaker 3: but later conceded the montage was.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Misleading and inaccurate.
- 30:59Speaker 3: Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson has called for a formal Senate
- 31:02Speaker 3: inquiry into the ABC, as she argued the national broadcaster
- 31:05Speaker 3: has repeatedly failed to uphold its legal requirement to report
- 31:09Speaker 3: news impartially and accurately.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Jack, And that's the point.
- 31:15Speaker 3: They have a charter to fulfill that our taxpayer funded
- 31:18Speaker 3: They're different to every other media organization. They seem to
- 31:22Speaker 3: ignore that charter each and every single day.
- 31:26Speaker 13: Yeah, well, exactly that the charter is irrelevant if the
- 31:28Speaker 13: on Budsman just refuses to look at things. And I
- 31:31Speaker 13: also want to make the point satirical content produced by
- 31:35Speaker 13: the ABC in a supposed news program, if that is
- 31:38Speaker 13: the excuse, it's really convenient how the satire always seems
- 31:42Speaker 13: to be against conservatives. And there is something that's a
- 31:44Speaker 13: little bit more insidious about this story, because yes, they
- 31:48Speaker 13: have shamelessly docted the photo of the Australian to put
- 31:50Speaker 13: the Coalition MPs there, but the functional purpose for putting
- 31:55Speaker 13: them there was to make fun of them for having
- 31:58Speaker 13: the policy debate about net zero, So some dopey producer
- 32:01Speaker 13: at the ABC, and I do think that's what this was,
- 32:04Speaker 13: because David Spears throws to this grab, and he throws
- 32:07Speaker 13: to this package with a straight face. So for them
- 32:10Speaker 13: to say that this was satire, I genuinely think he
- 32:14Speaker 13: had no idea they were going to do this and
- 32:15Speaker 13: would have been just as shocked as anybody now and
- 32:17Speaker 13: now seeing some of this coverage. But it goes to
- 32:20Speaker 13: this package with this goofy music and this voice over
- 32:23Speaker 13: saying that the Coalition just keeps trying to make the
- 32:26Speaker 13: story about themselves. It was an effort to mock the coalition,
- 32:30Speaker 13: and based on the people that I'm talking to in
- 32:32Speaker 13: the coalition, this is kind of like a straw that
- 32:35Speaker 13: broke the camel's back situation. It's so plain to see
- 32:39Speaker 13: the bias that the ABC has against anybody that's in
- 32:42Speaker 13: the Coalition that they're now feeling a little bit more
- 32:45Speaker 13: comfortable to call for things such as a Senate inquiry,
- 32:47Speaker 13: because I think that a lot of these senators are
- 32:49Speaker 13: feeling we have no choice. There is a billion dollar
- 32:52Speaker 13: a year organization which is actively working against us, and
- 32:57Speaker 13: when you have a responsibility over this course.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Jack.
- 33:02Speaker 3: That has worked against the Coalition for years, and whilst
- 33:07Speaker 3: in power, they do.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Nothing about it.
- 33:10Speaker 3: You know what, I've got limited sympathy for the Coalition
- 33:13Speaker 3: because when they have the opportunity to do something, they fail.
- 33:16Speaker 14: It's fair jack outon.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time.
- 33:19Speaker 13: Thanks reader.
- 33:20Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it and there's apparently
- 33:24Speaker 3: another wicked movie and that means more mindless musings from
- 33:29Speaker 3: Ariana Grande and Cynthia Arrivo.
- 33:32Speaker 14: Do you have a message for the clear fans who
- 33:34Speaker 14: are watching this?
- 33:35Speaker 2: We love you, we love you, we love you, we
- 33:38Speaker 2: love you, we love you, we love you and aunts.
- 33:39Speaker 15: It's always been a place, a same place for every
- 33:43Speaker 15: different color of barenbo where everybody? Can you read the
- 33:45Speaker 15: al Frank bomb books. It's the truth you're saying on us.
- 33:48Speaker 15: We love you so much, the gay or the matter.
- 33:50Speaker 14: Do you have a message for the gumky starts?
- 33:52Speaker 2: Oh, we love you too, We love you too. Where
- 33:56Speaker 2: is that camera? Great?
- 33:58Speaker 3: Now we have another mostly peaceful moment. You remember the
- 34:02Speaker 3: original during the BLM riots. That was some of CNN's
- 34:06Speaker 3: worst work, and CBS wants to emulate that fake news
- 34:11Speaker 3: by this report characterizing a violent Antifa riot at Berkeley,
- 34:17Speaker 3: as you guest did, mostly peaceful.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Yeah, things have.
- 34:20Speaker 16: Been lively here will that Turning Point USA event is
- 34:24Speaker 16: still happening inside. Protesters have been out here for hours.
- 34:28Speaker 16: You can see them still here behind me. They have
- 34:30Speaker 16: been chanting. Just a very very lively scene out here.
- 34:34Speaker 16: While things have been mostly peaceful, there have been some
- 34:36Speaker 16: tense moments. Earlier this evening there was a scuffle that
- 34:40Speaker 16: broke out where two men started fighting. You see, Berkeley
- 34:43Speaker 16: police had to break up that interaction. Later, someone was
- 34:46Speaker 16: throwing smoke bombs.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Just smoke bombs? Really?
- 34:52Speaker 3: And oh yeah, the violent Antifa thugs attacking people attending
- 34:56Speaker 3: a Turning Point USA event that's characterized as mostly peaceful,
- 35:02Speaker 3: even as attendees are abused, threatened.
- 35:05Speaker 2: And bashed.
- 35:06Speaker 3: As for her claim that just two men were fighting,
- 35:10Speaker 3: well that was wrong too. One man, a lefty called
- 35:13Speaker 3: g had allegedly attacked the victim who was left blooded.
- 35:17Speaker 3: And I say allegedly because he's already been arrested and
- 35:20Speaker 3: charged with assault. And of course CBS were keen to
- 35:24Speaker 3: platform another lefty losing it. A woman with a septum
- 35:28Speaker 3: ring who can't tolerate people with views that differ from
- 35:31Speaker 3: her warped view of the world.
- 35:34Speaker 4: Turning point, unsay should not be here, and they are
- 35:36Speaker 4: like a fascist organization, and nobody here agrees with what
- 35:40Speaker 4: they are saying. And obviously Charlie Kirk has been a
- 35:43Speaker 4: big issue with like a lot of college campuses and
- 35:46Speaker 4: people on college campuses, so we just think, like, I mean,
- 35:49Speaker 4: obviously I didn't really follow him a lot, but knowing
- 35:53Speaker 4: what he did and knowing the things that he was saying,
- 35:55Speaker 4: it's just like vile and disgusting. So we don't want
- 35:58Speaker 4: to support his organization. And I don't think that the
- 36:01Speaker 4: Berkeley chancellors should have let them come.
- 36:03Speaker 3: Here now to allege comic Chelsea Handler, and I say
- 36:07Speaker 3: alleged because she ain't funny, but she is indulging in
- 36:10Speaker 3: cancel culture by encouraging people to boycott an ever increasing
- 36:15Speaker 3: list of companies.
- 36:17Speaker 17: Every Saturday, they're listing ten new companies to boycott, and
- 36:20Speaker 17: they're giving you background reasons what they're affiliated with, who
- 36:23Speaker 17: they give their money to, and who is profiting off
- 36:26Speaker 17: of things like ice, profiting off of ice detention centers
- 36:30Speaker 17: and all that stuff.
- 36:31Speaker 14: But so like I'm feeling a lot of momentum.
- 36:34Speaker 17: I'm feeling really really supercharged and happy and powerful and hopeful.
- 36:39Speaker 17: I feel hopeful again.
- 36:41Speaker 2: She feels hopeful again.
- 36:43Speaker 3: You know, I kind of feel a little sorry for her,
- 36:46Speaker 3: so I won't say what I was gonna say. But
- 36:49Speaker 3: thinking it, let's see now from John Stewart, who doesn't
- 36:53Speaker 3: feel hopeful at all. He is distraught because his beloved
- 36:57Speaker 3: Democrats folded just like his beloved giants.
- 37:01Speaker 5: Not only did the Democrats and giants lose in the
- 37:04Speaker 5: same I can't believe it manner, They sound the same
- 37:09Speaker 5: doing it.
- 37:10Speaker 7: It's natural and appropriate to feel deep disappointment.
- 37:13Speaker 18: Disappointing, disappointing outcome.
- 37:15Speaker 5: It was not the result many of us want.
- 37:17Speaker 18: I want to get the results that you hope for
- 37:19Speaker 18: and came up short.
- 37:20Speaker 2: It never feels good to come up short.
- 37:22Speaker 18: We came up short, and that was a tough one.
- 37:24Speaker 2: You learn and you prepare to do better in the future.
- 37:28Speaker 18: You're always learning and trying to be better. Well, not
- 37:30Speaker 18: enough whence not enough?
- 37:31Speaker 8: Onenes, we will win, we will win, we w.
- 37:37Speaker 18: We won't rest, we won't rest.
- 37:44Speaker 3: Still to come what statement has been Shapiro, coming under
- 37:48Speaker 3: fire from friends and foes, c J.
- 37:51Speaker 10: Pearson has the details.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Welcome back now, America.
- 38:06Speaker 3: And indeed, the world dodged a bullet, an incoherent, incompetent bullet,
- 38:11Speaker 3: when Kamala Harris failed to buy her way into the presidency. Remember,
- 38:16Speaker 3: she outspent the Trump campaign by an enormous margin, and
- 38:20Speaker 3: despite losing in spectacular fashion, she seems to think she
- 38:24Speaker 3: outsmarted President Trump. She was playing three dimensional chess.
- 38:30Speaker 19: And I wasn't about to fall pre or fall into
- 38:35Speaker 19: those traps. And part of his strategy and those around him,
- 38:42Speaker 19: was to try and take me off.
- 38:45Speaker 2: Our game and message.
- 38:48Speaker 19: And I wasn't about to be distracted by those little
- 38:52Speaker 19: those flames that he was trying to throw to get
- 38:55Speaker 19: me away from one of my highest priority, which is
- 38:59Speaker 19: talking to people about the economy and their wellbeing in
- 39:01Speaker 19: terms of their financial wellbeing.
- 39:05Speaker 5: And that's so I was.
- 39:07Speaker 19: I understood the game that was being playing, and I
- 39:10Speaker 19: made a decision that I wasn't going to get played
- 39:13Speaker 19: and checkers done. Just yeah, three dimensional chess, I'm telling you.
- 39:23Speaker 5: You know.
- 39:26Speaker 2: She lost by a huge margin.
- 39:29Speaker 3: She lost every swing state, she lost the popular vote,
- 39:32Speaker 3: and she lost the electoral College. What three dimensional chess
- 39:36Speaker 3: was She exactly playing. Joining me now is political advisor
- 39:40Speaker 3: and commentator c J.
- 39:42Speaker 2: Pearson.
- 39:42Speaker 14: C J.
- 39:43Speaker 3: What is Kamala talking about?
- 39:47Speaker 20: I don't think Kamala knows what she's talking about in
- 39:50Speaker 20: this case, right, And she was played three dimensional chess.
- 39:52Speaker 20: She was very bad at it, almost as bad as
- 39:55Speaker 20: being a politician.
- 39:57Speaker 14: So either way, she's.
- 39:58Speaker 20: Knocking at this chess thing, not at this politics thing.
- 40:00Speaker 20: Is Kyle Harris good in anything? I'm struggling to answer
- 40:03Speaker 20: that question.
- 40:06Speaker 8: Now.
- 40:06Speaker 3: I'm interested in your take on the growing conflict within
- 40:11Speaker 3: conservative ranks.
- 40:12Speaker 2: There's two sides battling it out.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro's on one side, Tucker Carlson on the other.
- 40:20Speaker 3: And I want to play you a clip that has
- 40:22Speaker 3: gone viral in the past twenty four hours.
- 40:25Speaker 2: It's Ben Shapiro.
- 40:26Speaker 3: He's talking about housing and affordability.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Let's have a listen first.
- 40:33Speaker 21: If you're a young person and you can't afford to
- 40:35Speaker 21: live here, then maybe you should not live here.
- 40:37Speaker 18: I mean, that is a real thing.
- 40:39Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:39Speaker 21: I know that we've now grown up in a society
- 40:41Speaker 21: that says that you deserve to live where you grew up.
- 40:44Speaker 21: But the reality is that the history of America is
- 40:46Speaker 21: almost literally the opposite of that. The history of America
- 40:48Speaker 21: is you go to a place where there is opportunity,
- 40:51Speaker 21: and if the opportunities are limited here and they're not changing,
- 40:54Speaker 21: then you really should try to think about other places
- 40:57Speaker 21: where you have better opportunities.
- 41:00Speaker 8: Ce J.
- 41:01Speaker 3: Ben Shapiro is copying significant criticism for that.
- 41:05Speaker 2: Is that unfair?
- 41:07Speaker 3: There's an argument that that brand of conservatism is going
- 41:11Speaker 3: to alienate young voters and voters who feel like they
- 41:16Speaker 3: can't really get into the housing market, that it's the
- 41:20Speaker 3: privileges their parents had is not available to them.
- 41:26Speaker 20: No, you're exactly right, and I think that type of
- 41:29Speaker 20: just pessimism is not what's going to be what wins
- 41:32Speaker 20: over the hearts and minds of young people and brings
- 41:34Speaker 20: them over to our side. The American dream should be
- 41:37Speaker 20: attainable if you are an American. Right, there are people
- 41:40Speaker 20: that are trying to give the American dream to folks
- 41:41Speaker 20: who are even American citizens. And so, of course you
- 41:45Speaker 20: know young people in this country who are American who
- 41:47Speaker 20: want to own a home. We've seen many studies where
- 41:49Speaker 20: ninety percent of gen Z says they will wish to
- 41:51Speaker 20: one day own a home, but fear they never will
- 41:54Speaker 20: be able to that type of numerism is not going
- 41:58Speaker 20: to be what brings them over to our side, And
- 42:00Speaker 20: so I would say that I completely disagree with Ben
- 42:03Speaker 20: on that, and I would ask where he would want
- 42:05Speaker 20: them to move or we sposed to lose our best
- 42:07Speaker 20: and writers to Costa Rica or some type of third
- 42:11Speaker 20: world country where maybe there will be millionaires.
- 42:14Speaker 14: I don't really know what the solution to what he
- 42:17Speaker 14: was proposing actually is or what that would.
- 42:19Speaker 1: Even look like.
- 42:20Speaker 3: So now I think I would hope it was suggesting
- 42:24Speaker 3: that perhaps move to more affordable parts of America as
- 42:28Speaker 3: opposed to some of the big cities where affordability is
- 42:32Speaker 3: such a problem. But it is interesting, isn't it that
- 42:36Speaker 3: that sort of sentiment can be seen as just lacking
- 42:40Speaker 3: in compassion and young people feeling like they've done the
- 42:44Speaker 3: right things. They've gone to university, they've got this massive
- 42:47Speaker 3: college debt, they're trying to work, and they're not getting ahead,
- 42:52Speaker 3: they're falling further behind. And I think that's something that well,
- 42:56Speaker 3: all sides of the political spectrum need to think about now.
- 43:00Speaker 3: The left like to portray themselves as kind, compassionate, open
- 43:04Speaker 3: minded when they're nothing of the sort. And that's something
- 43:08Speaker 3: actress Cheryl Hines has discovered first had here she is
- 43:11Speaker 3: chatting with Bill Maher.
- 43:13Speaker 22: The Republicans have been very keen to me from the beginning,
- 43:18Speaker 22: even from the beginning when when Bobby was running as
- 43:22Speaker 22: a Democrat, they were they were, They weren't mean no,
- 43:27Speaker 22: and they never have been no.
- 43:29Speaker 2: And I can't see that for the Democrats.
- 43:32Speaker 8: I agree, and it's it's sad because it's not the
- 43:35Speaker 8: Democrats we grew up with.
- 43:38Speaker 3: Of course, actress Cheryl Hines, married to RFK Junior CJ.
- 43:43Speaker 3: Bill Maher still votes Democratic campaigns against Republicans, but even
- 43:49Speaker 3: he acknowledges that the left has changed just during his lifetime.
- 43:53Speaker 3: There's been a fairly dramatic change.
- 43:57Speaker 20: Yeah, these may not be the Democrats they grew up with,
- 43:59Speaker 20: but these are the Democrats have today. The Democrats who
- 44:02Speaker 20: completely hate free speech. We saw it just yesterday at
- 44:05Speaker 20: the Turning Point USA event that happened at UC Berkeley,
- 44:08Speaker 20: where they through firebombs and sought to assault attendees of
- 44:11Speaker 20: the event. And this is the so called, you know,
- 44:14Speaker 20: political party of supposed to tolerance. These people absolutely hate dissent,
- 44:19Speaker 20: they hate different ideas, they hate you know, half of
- 44:21Speaker 20: America unfortunately, like that is where we are right now,
- 44:24Speaker 20: and I think Cheryl Hines is completely right. What I
- 44:28Speaker 20: hope is that you know, those classical liberals, those old
- 44:30Speaker 20: school Democrats, realize that there is no home for them.
- 44:33Speaker 14: In the modern Democrat Party.
- 44:34Speaker 20: I hope that they, you know, find themselves, you know,
- 44:37Speaker 20: looking at other options.
- 44:38Speaker 14: You know, Bill Maher is someone.
- 44:39Speaker 20: That you know, I feel like sometimes we give him
- 44:41Speaker 20: a little bit too much credit because I think that
- 44:43Speaker 20: he knows that that reality is true, that there is
- 44:46Speaker 20: no home for him in the modern Democrat Party.
- 44:48Speaker 14: But still he hasn't found his way, you know, outside
- 44:52Speaker 14: of it quite yet.
- 44:53Speaker 20: But I'll hold out hope for him and hopefully he'll
- 44:55Speaker 20: he'll make the jump one day.
- 44:58Speaker 2: Well, he's come a long way.
- 45:00Speaker 3: I mean, I've played clips of him going on insane
- 45:03Speaker 3: rants and teds afflicted rants.
- 45:06Speaker 2: And he doesn't do that anymore.
- 45:08Speaker 3: He made all sorts of doomsday predictions if Trump won,
- 45:11Speaker 3: that you know, everyone's free speech was going to be takeaway,
- 45:14Speaker 3: he was going to be ripped off air.
- 45:16Speaker 2: He would never give up power.
- 45:18Speaker 3: He's moderated somewhat, So there's hope for him. Let's just
- 45:22Speaker 3: see if he's fully cured of his TDS, but during
- 45:27Speaker 3: that chat, they also talked about mccarthy'sm modern day McCarthyism,
- 45:32Speaker 3: a real variety that exists, undoubtedly where if you're in
- 45:38Speaker 3: an entertainment well, particularly Hollywood, and you are not a leftist,
- 45:44Speaker 3: then it is going to impact your career. It doesn't
- 45:47Speaker 3: matter how popular you are.
- 45:49Speaker 2: How good you are at your job.
- 45:51Speaker 3: You're probably not going to get the roles that you
- 45:53Speaker 3: would get. Perhaps you won't get any roles at all,
- 45:55Speaker 3: and you would be blacklisted.
- 45:57Speaker 10: You do.
- 45:57Speaker 20: I think you're exactly right. You know, the cancel culture
- 46:00Speaker 20: that has defined the left is very much alive and
- 46:03Speaker 20: well in Hollywood. But what I'll you know, give them
- 46:05Speaker 20: kind of credit for now with the rise of the
- 46:07Speaker 20: Sydney Swings that you kind of realize that people are
- 46:10Speaker 20: over this entire uh, you know, being lectured by a
- 46:13Speaker 20: bunch of Hollywood celebrities who are completely and grossly out
- 46:16Speaker 20: of touch with the day to day problems of everyday Americans.
- 46:19Speaker 14: And I think that's exactly why.
- 46:21Speaker 20: You know, all of Hollywood may have rallied around Kamlalin Harris,
- 46:24Speaker 20: may have rallied around Joe Biden and Barack Obama, but
- 46:27Speaker 20: the American people rejected those individuals, and they're pleased to
- 46:30Speaker 20: you know, fall in line in all of those things.
- 46:32Speaker 14: And so people are over canceled culture, They're over being
- 46:35Speaker 14: told how to think and what to think.
- 46:37Speaker 20: Why Because this is the United States of America, and
- 46:40Speaker 20: I think courage is contagious. So when you see you know,
- 46:43Speaker 20: celebrities like Shechryl Hines now who are starting to ask
- 46:45Speaker 20: those questions. Even Bill Maher, you know, starting to you know,
- 46:48Speaker 20: ask questions he previously, you know, would never have thought
- 46:51Speaker 20: to ask or make criticisms of his own side that
- 46:53Speaker 20: we have never thought to have made. I think it
- 46:55Speaker 20: leads to a lot of other people in Hollywood saying
- 46:58Speaker 20: why can't I ask those same questions as well.
- 47:02Speaker 3: Now I want to play you some footage from the
- 47:05Speaker 3: New York City subway.
- 47:06Speaker 2: Watch how this.
- 47:07Speaker 3: Woman is threatened, pushed around, and how nobody intervenes.
- 47:22Speaker 1: Talking about.
- 47:27Speaker 18: Talking about.
- 47:32Speaker 1: This talking c J.
- 47:48Speaker 3: In my mind, that's a failure in masculinity. What happened
- 47:54Speaker 3: to good Samaritans, What happened to chivalry?
- 47:57Speaker 2: What happened to protecting women?
- 48:00Speaker 5: Exactly right?
- 48:01Speaker 20: You know, it's a failure of masculinity. But it's also
- 48:04Speaker 20: the spread of cowardice. But you know, why does that
- 48:07Speaker 20: cowardice maybe exist, Maybe because it's the folks like Daniel
- 48:10Speaker 20: Penny who would have seen something.
- 48:12Speaker 14: Like that sprung into actor and then in.
- 48:15Speaker 20: A city like New York would not have been treated
- 48:17Speaker 20: like the hero that he is, would not have been
- 48:19Speaker 20: commended for sainting up for someone that's weaker than him,
- 48:23Speaker 20: smaller than him, but would have been thrown in jail
- 48:26Speaker 20: and risk the ability of ever making a livelihood ever again.
- 48:30Speaker 5: And so it's.
- 48:31Speaker 20: Unfortunate that, you know, I think people have to think
- 48:34Speaker 20: and double think about those things. I think we also
- 48:36Speaker 20: just right the rise of the occasion stone and say no,
- 48:39Speaker 20: we're just not going to let that happen. But I
- 48:41Speaker 20: think that we're seeing exactly the type of reaction that
- 48:46Speaker 20: the conditions of New York City and their law enforcement
- 48:48Speaker 20: have created.
- 48:49Speaker 14: And it's only going to get worse to mom, Donnie.
- 48:51Speaker 20: So if this is a foreshotow on what's to come,
- 48:53Speaker 20: I think that this is going to get a lot
- 48:55Speaker 20: worse from here.
- 48:57Speaker 5: C J.
- 48:58Speaker 3: Pearson, thank you so much for your time. And that's
- 49:01Speaker 3: it from May to up. Next it's Newsnight. I'll see
- 49:04Speaker 3: you at eleven tomorrow night