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- 0:27what is going on everybody
- 0:29welcome to thursday night
- 0:30crossfit talk my name is
- 0:32scott switch on the
- 0:32collides dale she is jamie
- 0:35latimer we got lots to talk
- 0:38about tonight a lot
- 0:39happened this week a lot of
- 0:41personal stuff a lot of
- 0:44other stuff so before we
- 0:47get into kind of some
- 0:49personal stuff I changed
- 0:51the thumbnail real quick
- 0:53Within the last hour,
- 0:55CrossFit has issued a
- 0:56statement about the waiver
- 0:59exemption denial for Ellie Turner.
- 1:03And the statement speaks
- 1:05specifically to her case.
- 1:07And what I'm going to do is
- 1:08I'm just going to go ahead
- 1:09and share my screen and go
- 1:11ahead and read it out loud.
- 1:15And it's been the talk all week.
- 1:18So before I do that, let's set this up.
- 1:21All right.
- 1:22the rule book states that if
- 1:23you live in another region
- 1:26and you don't wish to
- 1:27compete in the region of your citizenship,
- 1:30but where you live,
- 1:32you can file for an exemption.
- 1:34And there are reasons why
- 1:35that exemption can be granted and reason.
- 1:38And if it's not in those reasons,
- 1:40it can be denied.
- 1:43So I'm going to go ahead and
- 1:44share my screen here.
- 1:46It's going to be small
- 1:47because it's very wide.
- 1:48But again,
- 1:52Here is the statement from
- 1:55CrossFit came again within the last hour.
- 1:59Santa Cruz, California, February 1st.
- 2:01CrossFit has issued the
- 2:02following statement on the
- 2:04recent competition
- 2:05exemption decisions ahead
- 2:08of the 2024 CrossFit Games.
- 2:11If an athlete resides in a
- 2:12region outside their
- 2:13country of citizenship and
- 2:14they believe they may advance to semis,
- 2:17they can petition CrossFit
- 2:19for an exemption to be
- 2:20placed in a different competition region.
- 2:23Sorry, my mic is blocking my view.
- 2:26So I'm going to have to back
- 2:27up a little bit.
- 2:29On January 23rd, 2024,
- 2:30Ellie Turner submitted her
- 2:33request for a regional exemption.
- 2:35which was denied due to
- 2:36being unable to establish
- 2:38proof of residency
- 2:40beginning on or before
- 2:41February 1st of 2021.
- 2:45The timeline Ellie provided
- 2:47to the CrossFit Games
- 2:48states that she arrived in
- 2:50North America in June of
- 2:512021 prior to competing at
- 2:53the 2021 CrossFit Games.
- 2:56She then returned to
- 2:57Australia before arriving
- 2:59in Canada in December of 2021.
- 3:00Ellie has sustained
- 3:02residency in North America
- 3:04since December 2021.
- 3:06but does not meet the
- 3:07required date of residency
- 3:10on or before February 1st of 2021.
- 3:13For reference,
- 3:14and then they point out the
- 3:15point in the thing in the
- 3:17rule book that says proof
- 3:19of sustained residency in a
- 3:20single country outside the
- 3:22athlete's country of
- 3:22citizenship beginning on or
- 3:24before February 1st, 2021, three years.
- 3:29They go on to say 30
- 3:30athletes have submitted
- 3:32competition exemption
- 3:33applications ahead of the
- 3:35February 1st deadline.
- 3:36We have reviewed 19 of those
- 3:38applications and notified
- 3:40those athletes of the
- 3:40decision of those 19 applications.
- 3:43Five have been denied.
- 3:45The final 11 applications
- 3:47are currently under review
- 3:49and those athletes will be
- 3:49notified of approval or
- 3:51denial on or before
- 3:53February 28th of 2024.
- 3:54Exemption requests are filed after,
- 4:00requests that are filed
- 4:01after today february 1st
- 4:03will not be considered in
- 4:05early march the crossfit
- 4:06games will publish a list
- 4:07of all athletes who are
- 4:08granted exemption along
- 4:10with their new region so
- 4:14that is the statement
- 4:19thoughts miss latimer I wish in this
- 4:25post of we we received 30
- 4:28here's the 19 we've set out
- 4:30these 19 were approved
- 4:32these five were denied um
- 4:36and like pretty clear
- 4:38reasonings why like I think
- 4:40I mean everyone just keeps
- 4:41bringing up roman and
- 4:42catrina as your comparisons
- 4:43and I think everyone is
- 4:44pretty much in agreement on
- 4:45roman like there's really
- 4:46no question there he really
- 4:48shouldn't even be brought
- 4:48into the conversation um
- 4:51But I mean,
- 4:52I'd be very curious who the
- 4:53other four denials were.
- 4:56And so that maybe we can
- 4:57have some more talking points there.
- 5:01Katrin would be my one
- 5:02question of why when it's
- 5:04sustained residency and was
- 5:09there sustained residency
- 5:10when she was back home for
- 5:12like all of 2022 training team,
- 5:15training with Yami over there and Annie.
- 5:18So that'd be my question.
- 5:20Like,
- 5:21did she truly have sustained
- 5:22residency if she was home
- 5:26for the better part of a
- 5:28year in 2022 then I think
- 5:30that that is not being by
- 5:34the book and you maybe are
- 5:36playing favorites a little
- 5:37bit so here's my argument
- 5:40to you and we we kind of
- 5:42stopped our argument before
- 5:43we went on the air so we
- 5:44could have it live on the
- 5:45air and that is that
- 5:47sustained residency does not state living
- 5:51there the entire time right
- 5:54it and the proof that
- 5:55they're asking for in the
- 5:57rule book are like utility
- 5:59bills phone bills stuff I'm
- 6:03sure nobody has a landline
- 6:04anymore so that was stupid
- 6:06but um if she sustained a
- 6:08residence here in the
- 6:10united states during that
- 6:11whole time the rule that
- 6:14she was training with yami
- 6:16and an alternate on the
- 6:17team she only had to be
- 6:18there 50 of the time
- 6:22So if she was 50-50 and
- 6:24sustaining a residence in
- 6:26the United States,
- 6:27then I think she meets the requirements.
- 6:30I don't disagree there.
- 6:32I feel like if they're going
- 6:35to take Ellie's stuff and
- 6:37say she showed residency
- 6:39and so her residency is from December,
- 6:41they should probably back
- 6:43up their decision on Katrin
- 6:45and show that she had
- 6:47sustained residency here in the U.S.
- 6:50Because if
- 6:51brooks is paying the
- 6:53mortgage and the utilities
- 6:55here when she's there then
- 6:57that is playing favorites
- 6:59they're just taking her
- 7:00word for it if she had if
- 7:03she's paying utility bills
- 7:04here I totally agree like
- 7:06yes you can have two houses
- 7:07and sure but are they going
- 7:11to back that up probably
- 7:12not and they're probably
- 7:12never going to know and
- 7:13it's going to be assumed
- 7:14that they play favorites
- 7:16So I think it's apples to
- 7:17oranges because Katrin has
- 7:19lived in the United States
- 7:21off and on from 2015 till now.
- 7:27And in addition to that, Ellie,
- 7:31like we know, like,
- 7:33Like I know I was following
- 7:35her story because I
- 7:37interviewed her at those 21 games.
- 7:40She came from Australia.
- 7:41She got stranded here
- 7:42because of COVID and the
- 7:45Olympics and couldn't get
- 7:47back to Australia.
- 7:49And so she was not a
- 7:50resident of North America at all.
- 7:54Now she did come back to
- 7:56Canada to train with
- 7:58Michelle Laton and Deca camp and
- 8:01I don't know why that
- 8:02wouldn't count as North America.
- 8:07Or does it,
- 8:07does it mean because North
- 8:09America region and the,
- 8:11so Canada and us are in the same region,
- 8:13right?
- 8:15It doesn't matter.
- 8:16She definitely wasn't here
- 8:17before February for
- 8:18whatever they're kind of next year.
- 8:20She should be fine.
- 8:21Yeah.
- 8:21Sarah,
- 8:26I guess, no,
- 8:27we don't know if Katrin had to apply,
- 8:30but again, that just goes back to,
- 8:31if everyone's having to speculate,
- 8:33that goes back to playing
- 8:35these guessing games that
- 8:37we maybe shouldn't have to do.
- 8:38Like if they're saying they
- 8:40already put out 19 state decisions,
- 8:45put them out there.
- 8:50Yeah.
- 8:52I don't think that,
- 8:53and I agree with clock.
- 8:55And I'm going to pull that up.
- 8:57I don't think that CrossFit
- 8:59is making this easier on themselves.
- 9:01I think they're using
- 9:06semantics that can be used as loopholes.
- 9:11And instead of coming up
- 9:13with a rule that's just black and white,
- 9:16you either meet it or you don't.
- 9:18And this would be a whole lot easier.
- 9:21But I think that's where the
- 9:22distrust comes from, right?
- 9:24Is that there are these
- 9:26rules that are very
- 9:27ambiguous that some people
- 9:29can figure out the loophole
- 9:31and some can't.
- 9:32So everybody's like, well,
- 9:33they're playing favorites with X, Y,
- 9:35and Z and not with A, B, and C. Yep.
- 9:43And I think it's just some
- 9:44people have a better
- 9:45support system who knows
- 9:46how to play the game.
- 9:51Yeah.
- 9:52Or they're really playing favorites.
- 9:56Right.
- 9:56And we won't know because
- 9:57they're not going to be very clear.
- 9:59I mean,
- 9:59I almost feel like three years is like,
- 10:02I mean, it's too late.
- 10:04That was what they put in
- 10:04the real rule book, but I,
- 10:09I don't know why they're
- 10:10choosing three years.
- 10:15I think at the end of the day,
- 10:16they didn't want,
- 10:18they didn't want like what
- 10:19was happening in the mid
- 10:20teens where people were
- 10:21moving to get to the easiest region.
- 10:23Um, and it had, and like,
- 10:27I was huge CrossFit nut back then.
- 10:31Like everybody was moving to
- 10:33get the better,
- 10:34like Margo Alvarez lover to death.
- 10:37She competed in three
- 10:38different regions in like
- 10:39three straight years.
- 10:40Yeah.
- 10:45It was insane back then.
- 10:49Yeah, I agree.
- 10:53So through this all,
- 10:54in this whole week of debate, I mean,
- 10:58at the end of the day,
- 11:00the rule as it's written,
- 11:01Ellie does not meet.
- 11:02I totally agree with that.
- 11:05Right.
- 11:06Now all the noise around it,
- 11:09like who the hell knows?
- 11:14Yeah,
- 11:14I just think the frustration is you
- 11:18can't be certain on
- 11:20probably Catherine's role
- 11:22and really anyone else's.
- 11:24We don't really know who
- 11:25else was chosen or denied and why.
- 11:28And so she's just probably
- 11:30feeling attacked.
- 11:32We know Roman got approved.
- 11:36Yeah, right.
- 11:40Well,
- 11:40and I think we know Katrin got approved.
- 11:42I guess we just don't know.
- 11:43I mean, she had to have gotten approved.
- 11:52But Roman going to South
- 11:53Korea this offseason throws
- 11:56a big wrinkle in that, too,
- 11:57because that's where the semifinals are.
- 12:01If you can travel there,
- 12:03why do you need a waiver?
- 12:05Yeah, that's true.
- 12:09and I understand what he
- 12:10went through for years and
- 12:12there could be other issues
- 12:14associated with that that
- 12:15we don't know about because
- 12:17of everything he's gone
- 12:18through and that's probably
- 12:20the most complicated
- 12:21situation and one I don't
- 12:24even want to guess at why
- 12:26it's given because we'll
- 12:28probably never know that yeah
- 12:35Again, I think Katrin would be fine.
- 12:39And again, apples and oranges.
- 12:40She's been here off and on for so long.
- 12:43It's just showing a
- 12:44consistent utility bill
- 12:46through those years.
- 12:48And where I grew up,
- 12:51kids did that in high
- 12:52school sports all the time.
- 12:54I'm living with my aunt Judy.
- 12:55Here's my, my phone bill, you know?
- 12:59Right.
- 13:03So that's the breaking news.
- 13:06That's the statement from CrossFit.
- 13:09I'm glad they cleared that up.
- 13:13Did they go?
- 13:14I mean, that's what everyone knew,
- 13:16that she wasn't here before.
- 13:17They cleared up her case.
- 13:23Everything else that we're
- 13:25doing is speculating on the
- 13:28decisions of other people.
- 13:30Her case is she did not meet the rule.
- 13:34She was denied.
- 13:35Yeah, I don't I mean,
- 13:39I don't think people had a
- 13:41question about that.
- 13:42I think everyone was on the same page.
- 13:44She wasn't here before the February.
- 13:46I think they're just arguing
- 13:48like other people weren't also.
- 13:53Right.
- 13:54And we start comparing
- 13:56ourselves to others.
- 13:57That's when we get in
- 13:58trouble because everybody's
- 14:00situation is different.
- 14:02And,
- 14:02and we don't know the facts behind it
- 14:04all.
- 14:05So,
- 14:07and I'll be honest with you with the
- 14:09Catherine thing.
- 14:11I'm betting she wasn't in
- 14:13Iceland as much as she said
- 14:14she was back then.
- 14:16Because the teams do that
- 14:19and fake it to be a team
- 14:21anyway back then.
- 14:23So I'm glad they got rid of
- 14:24that hundred mile radius
- 14:25rule and all of that crap.
- 14:31Yeah.
- 14:33So wouldn't it be funny that
- 14:35the reason she got accepted
- 14:37is because she lied to be
- 14:38an alternate on the team that year.
- 14:41And now they don't want to admit that.
- 14:43Right.
- 14:44Because that other team got totally hosed.
- 14:47Well, she didn't compete.
- 14:50No, she didn't.
- 14:51I agree.
- 14:52Yeah, she was.
- 14:53Yeah.
- 14:55She just was an alternate.
- 14:56And Lauren Fisher went ahead and competed.
- 14:57Right.
- 15:01But it would be really funny
- 15:02to say for her to come out going, well,
- 15:04the reason is I did sustain
- 15:06residency because I lied in
- 15:082022 just so I could be an alternate.
- 15:11Well, in that year,
- 15:13Katrin did compete in that semifinal.
- 15:17yeah I think that's where
- 15:22people are like I mean she
- 15:24was there she competed in
- 15:25that why can't she did then
- 15:27why can't she now it's the
- 15:32it's the being able to go
- 15:33back and forth thing that I
- 15:35think is I don't know just
- 15:37a little fuzzy yeah the
- 15:39inconsistencies get frustrating
- 15:45Yeah, so that's that.
- 15:47I think that horse has been
- 15:49beaten to death this week,
- 15:50but I did want to bring up
- 15:51the breaking news so that
- 15:53everybody knew that
- 15:54CrossFit had made a
- 15:55statement and really just
- 15:58clarified Ellie's situation.
- 16:02And that we'll get a list at
- 16:04the end of the month with
- 16:05everybody who's approved and denied.
- 16:07That would be great.
- 16:08I think that would be a step
- 16:10in the right direction as well.
- 16:13Yeah.
- 16:15So we've been binge watching stuff.
- 16:17Have you found anything new?
- 16:19No.
- 16:20Well, I watched Love on the Spectrum.
- 16:22Have you seen that?
- 16:24No.
- 16:26It's just a little eight,
- 16:29I think it's eight episodes in a season,
- 16:32two seasons.
- 16:35People on the autism
- 16:36spectrum trying to find love.
- 16:39It was cute.
- 16:40It was like a little docuseries.
- 16:42It was cute.
- 16:42Yeah, my daughter.
- 16:44My daughter watches it, I think.
- 16:52And we're back to... Curious
- 16:55if the others are smaller
- 16:57athletes who were denied.
- 16:59Maybe I just don't follow them.
- 17:00I've only heard Ellie's.
- 17:02I think what would be great
- 17:04is if Tia was one of those
- 17:06and then they announced she was denied.
- 17:08And then I think if that's announced,
- 17:11then all this is better.
- 17:13I agree.
- 17:17You think that will happen though?
- 17:18I would assume she's one of
- 17:19the 11 that were approved or the eight,
- 17:21whatever.
- 17:21She competed a Torian two years ago,
- 17:23right?
- 17:25Yeah.
- 17:25So did Catherine.
- 17:27Like, I don't,
- 17:28I think they'll both be
- 17:29given their exemption back
- 17:31to the U S and it's just
- 17:33like a long time.
- 17:35Huh?
- 17:36She probably can prove
- 17:38sustained for three years.
- 17:42Yeah.
- 17:43so thank you judy she's only
- 17:48in year eight I'm on year
- 17:4912. where's your badge did
- 17:51you post it I haven't
- 17:53signed up yet then you
- 17:54don't get a congrats yet
- 17:56you better sign up make it official
- 18:07Peter Otero says,
- 18:09I feel like people miss the
- 18:10on or before part of the rule.
- 18:12Katrin has been here for years.
- 18:15We didn't miss that, Peter.
- 18:17February.
- 18:17Yeah, we didn't miss that.
- 18:22I personally,
- 18:24it's the consistent residency
- 18:26since the on or before for me.
- 18:32I think it just makes a fuzzy...
- 18:35I don't like how they worded
- 18:37that and then they can
- 18:38choose who really was here
- 18:40for all three years or wasn't.
- 18:43I think she can prove with
- 18:46the proof in the rule book
- 18:48that she had a residence in the U.S.
- 18:50during that time.
- 18:53Maybe.
- 18:54Again,
- 18:54maybe Brooks was paying for stuff
- 18:56here and she can't.
- 18:58She's just giving a pass.
- 19:00She can pay her own bills.
- 19:03But did she?
- 19:05Prove it.
- 19:06As long as the paper says she did.
- 19:07Okay.
- 19:11You're 12, Andrew.
- 19:12Awesome.
- 19:15Come on, Judy.
- 19:16Yeah, Judy.
- 19:18Get them.
- 19:20I'll sign up.
- 19:25Yeah.
- 19:25Don't even get us started on the East,
- 19:27West, and the U.S.
- 19:29Because that's just wild, wild West again.
- 19:31Yes.
- 19:32But...
- 19:34So the one thing I'm watching is Bookie.
- 19:38Okay.
- 19:40Sebastian Manuscala.
- 19:42Oh, yeah.
- 19:43I like him.
- 19:43On HBO Max.
- 19:45This is before legalized gambling,
- 19:48like right before.
- 19:50And he's a bookie.
- 19:53And it kind of like talks about...
- 19:57It's about his life as a
- 19:59bookie collecting money from people.
- 20:01And some of them are famous.
- 20:02Like he had to collect from Charlie Sheen.
- 20:05He had to collect from different.
- 20:07He was a legit bookie.
- 20:10No, no, no, no, no.
- 20:11It's fictional.
- 20:13Okay.
- 20:15But like Charlie Sheen plays
- 20:17himself in the show and has to, they have,
- 20:22they like break into a
- 20:23rehab facility to collect
- 20:24money from them.
- 20:25wow it's really funny yeah
- 20:31he's funny very satirical
- 20:32um but very funny and I'm
- 20:35about I think I'm six
- 20:36episodes in probably a
- 20:37couple to go yeah I need
- 20:41some I need some more
- 20:43recommendations so if
- 20:45anyone's got anything good
- 20:46I should start let me know
- 20:49before we jump any into any rabbit holes,
- 20:51Sarah Cooper, um,
- 20:54is that my cohost was doing
- 20:58some pullovers this week.
- 21:02And what had happened was
- 21:04nobody even knows what happened.
- 21:06I just,
- 21:07it's a dumb movement and I
- 21:08shouldn't even be messing
- 21:10around with them in my opinion.
- 21:12I'm totally capable of doing
- 21:13them and stringing them and
- 21:15doing plenty of them.
- 21:16It's just silly, I think.
- 21:19So anyway,
- 21:20I felt like my shoulder came out
- 21:22of socket twice.
- 21:24And yes, so funny, Scott.
- 21:31Coach is saying, I agree, they're dumb.
- 21:34And the reason they're
- 21:36saying they're dumb is why?
- 21:38Quit beating around the bush.
- 21:40Well, I hurt my shoulder.
- 21:41I said it like, well,
- 21:43this is funny because I had
- 21:44my call with Tristan today
- 21:45and you got my Snapchat of
- 21:47me in the x-ray room.
- 21:50You immediately messaged me.
- 21:51Tristan still hadn't even
- 21:53seen my Snapchat.
- 21:54And I was like,
- 21:55this is like an hour before I call.
- 21:56I was like, hey, check your Snapchat.
- 21:59And then he's like, what the heck?
- 22:01And I was like,
- 22:01I just didn't want you to
- 22:02be blindsided when we started talking.
- 22:07So, yeah, I don't know.
- 22:10have an mri tomorrow we'll
- 22:11see I'm I'm hopeful it's
- 22:13just a strain but who knows
- 22:17either way it'll be fine
- 22:19I'm I can I can still do
- 22:20things okay your doctor said
- 22:27that he believes let's, let's, you know,
- 22:31you're in the media.
- 22:32Now you gotta be honest.
- 22:35Your doctor said that he
- 22:37believes that there is a tear.
- 22:39Yeah.
- 22:39He didn't seem, he did not seem hopeful.
- 22:42I, I got the impression that he was like,
- 22:45I think something might be torn.
- 22:48Either my rotator cuff or my
- 22:49X-ray and you're having an
- 22:51MRI tomorrow and a follow-up next week.
- 22:54Yes.
- 22:57this media is honest.
- 22:59Kenneth,
- 22:59the original Thursday night show
- 23:01is all about honesty.
- 23:05So I asked you, what does that mean?
- 23:08And you told me that it means nothing.
- 23:12You're going to compete.
- 23:14You've hurt your shoulder
- 23:15before and it doesn't
- 23:16matter if it's torn.
- 23:18You're doing the 24 season regardless.
- 23:21Correct.
- 23:23Yeah.
- 23:24And that you hurt your other
- 23:25shoulder like six years ago
- 23:27and now it's all evened out
- 23:29and you're going to even be better.
- 23:31Right.
- 23:31I'll be okay.
- 23:36I just need to know,
- 23:37like I always put things
- 23:38off and just try to deal with it.
- 23:40And this way I feel like if
- 23:41I know right now I can like
- 23:44interest in knows we can like kind of,
- 23:46you know, game plans, um,
- 23:48And, like, if it is, like, a strain,
- 23:50I can actually, like, rest it.
- 23:52I feel like if it's torn,
- 23:54I just need to stay doing
- 23:55what I'm doing and, like,
- 23:56maybe occasionally cherry
- 23:58pick some things and, like,
- 23:59work around it.
- 24:00But I'd like to rest it if I
- 24:02need to just rest it.
- 24:04I'd like to keep working and
- 24:05work around it if it's torn.
- 24:08So...
- 24:09Well,
- 24:10if they keep taking forever to
- 24:12announce when and where
- 24:13Legends the games are,
- 24:17you could probably have surgery, recover,
- 24:19and train, and still make Legends.
- 24:25That's just sarcasm.
- 24:27Yeah.
- 24:28Well,
- 24:28you still got to do the whole season.
- 24:31So that is what's going on with Jamie.
- 24:34Yeah.
- 24:35So...
- 24:37We need you to cross your fingers,
- 24:39say your prayers.
- 24:40Yes, guys.
- 24:42And healing vibes, whatever it is.
- 24:43Not a year for an injury.
- 24:45I'm trying to remain optimistic.
- 24:51Um, Tristan says we shall, and this,
- 24:55for those of you who don't know,
- 24:56this is coach Krispy Kreme.
- 24:58Uh,
- 24:58we shall adapt and overcome also the
- 25:00approach to any,
- 25:02an injury like that for an
- 25:04athlete like Jamie versus
- 25:06another athlete is a whole topic.
- 25:09That's true.
- 25:13I'm not strong anyway.
- 25:14So if it affects the lift,
- 25:16it is what it is.
- 25:20But you were getting stronger.
- 25:21Yeah, that's questionable.
- 25:24And that gap was shrinking.
- 25:28Oh, my God.
- 25:30No.
- 25:35Tristan lost his Krispy Kreme shirt,
- 25:37for those of you not.
- 25:38He's kicked out of the club now.
- 25:43Can you even get another?
- 25:44I guess there's still Krispy Kreme around,
- 25:46right?
- 25:50Because he forgot the P. Clock wants no.
- 25:53I missed that.
- 26:04Chrissy Cream, is that a new porn star?
- 26:12Oh, gosh.
- 26:13You guys kill me.
- 26:14Well,
- 26:15we'll have to find one on eBay or
- 26:16something.
- 26:17We got to get you a new one.
- 26:19How do you lose that?
- 26:20Well, when it was like from his gym,
- 26:23right?
- 26:23Like, like Einhorn cross.
- 26:26Yeah.
- 26:27So hopefully they have it.
- 26:29Yeah.
- 26:32Yeah.
- 26:33Well,
- 26:33the next thing I wanted to talk about
- 26:37is not Chrissy cream.
- 26:38Um,
- 26:39but I hope wish her well in all her
- 26:40endeavors.
- 26:42Um, so TFX happened.
- 26:49We had Sydney McElishan and William Leahy,
- 26:52the fourth win.
- 26:52And I'm not going to get
- 26:55into a lot of details, but what,
- 26:57what does it mean for both of them?
- 27:00I have opinions,
- 27:01but I want to know if that,
- 27:03because like Kelly Baker
- 27:04won last year and then
- 27:06ended up making the games.
- 27:10Yeah.
- 27:11So what does that mean for these two?
- 27:15Well, I mean,
- 27:18Well, William's been on everyone's radar,
- 27:20I feel like,
- 27:20so I think that's got to give
- 27:25him a little more confidence.
- 27:28For Sydney, I mean,
- 27:29I think she needs more of
- 27:30these wins in her competitive atmosphere.
- 27:37Where's she at now?
- 27:39Proven.
- 27:40same coach same coke jared
- 27:43smith moved to proven is
- 27:45still coaching her but they
- 27:47both moved to nashville
- 27:48okay yeah I mean same with
- 27:54all the wins that we talked
- 27:55about like doesn't like
- 27:56when gives somebody
- 27:57confidence going in and if
- 27:59if just in your mind you're
- 28:00a winner like that can be
- 28:02dangerous well here here
- 28:05are my initial thoughts
- 28:07william leahy won a live competition
- 28:11being judged.
- 28:13That is huge.
- 28:17He was so young to the sport
- 28:19and so oblivious to the
- 28:20rules that he was breaking all of them.
- 28:23Right.
- 28:24And the fact that he got a
- 28:26win at a legit mid-major
- 28:29competition with judging is
- 28:32a huge step forward for him.
- 28:35Because the dude is fit.
- 28:37It's just,
- 28:39can he get through the obstacles
- 28:43that keep tripping him up?
- 28:45I think this is a good first step.
- 28:48For Sydney,
- 28:49who is a dear friend of the show,
- 28:51we followed her all last year.
- 28:55She took fourth on Chop Wood Carry Water,
- 28:59which had a two-mile run in it.
- 29:02I think that alone...
- 29:04a fourth place finish in a
- 29:07decent competition is a
- 29:09huge sign for her.
- 29:11Because everybody knows she can lift.
- 29:16Everybody knows she can take
- 29:17care of the heavy stuff,
- 29:18the power output on machines,
- 29:20all of that stuff.
- 29:22The fact that she took
- 29:23fourth in a row and run
- 29:24event was impressive.
- 29:27And it's two miles, not just a 400.
- 29:31Like, I think that is...
- 29:35A legit,
- 29:36a legit confidence builder for her
- 29:40going into the season.
- 29:42How did it,
- 29:43was it 2K row into two mile run?
- 29:47What was it?
- 29:55It was 2K row,
- 29:56250 meter dumbbell farmer carry.
- 29:58Okay.
- 29:59Two mile run.
- 30:0040 pound dumbbells.
- 30:03So 50 pound dumbbells for women.
- 30:06I'd be curious what her run
- 30:09split was or like how far
- 30:11ahead she was or did she
- 30:13just hold people off what it was.
- 30:16I didn't get any TFX coverage,
- 30:18so I have no idea.
- 30:19Yeah.
- 30:23If you've never been,
- 30:24it's in the middle of nowhere.
- 30:26I have been.
- 30:28Yes, we ran through a field, Veronica.
- 30:30It was interesting.
- 30:31Interesting.
- 30:33yeah it's I call it the
- 30:35three ring circus they have
- 30:37three pads um that they run
- 30:42events continuously through
- 30:45and uh yeah trent tools
- 30:49yeah footing's not not good
- 30:50there um tristan said it
- 30:54was slow they were in the
- 30:55mud and there was a good spread
- 31:02So, yeah.
- 31:06But anyway, those are my thoughts.
- 31:09Yeah, that's awesome.
- 31:10I mean, yeah,
- 31:12they just got to take the win
- 31:13and just keep trucking.
- 31:15And she beat Abby Domet.
- 31:18Yeah.
- 31:18That's huge.
- 31:20Who 15 points beat her by 15 ish,
- 31:24a little bit more.
- 31:26So that's,
- 31:28that's huge for her because
- 31:30that's a games athlete.
- 31:31That's where she wants to be.
- 31:32I think that was, was awesome for her.
- 31:36Yeah.
- 31:38I,
- 31:40I don't want to make it
- 31:40sound like I don't like TFX.
- 31:42I think it's a really cool
- 31:43competition for what it is.
- 31:45And,
- 31:46and it is a mid-major and embraces it.
- 31:47And it's, it's got fun events, man.
- 31:50But to get out there every day,
- 31:53we covered it two years ago.
- 31:56It just was a lot.
- 31:59And that like out by it,
- 32:01there was only one hotel at the time.
- 32:04So it just made it horrible.
- 32:07Yeah.
- 32:07We did it in 21 and it was,
- 32:10It was rough and cold.
- 32:17I did it 22.
- 32:17You'd have to come on
- 32:23Tristan and give us the, cause we didn't,
- 32:25I didn't see any coverage.
- 32:26So I honestly don't have a
- 32:26whole lot of opinions on it.
- 32:28I don't know what happened.
- 32:29I got a little,
- 32:30some stories here and there, but I've,
- 32:33I didn't know the events to tell you.
- 32:35I've heard some complaints, but I don't,
- 32:38uh,
- 32:42I didn't pay that much attention,
- 32:44I'll be honest,
- 32:45with everything going on this week.
- 32:46Yeah.
- 32:48So next topic,
- 32:49Hiller gets pulled from the open.
- 32:52Yeah.
- 32:52For PED use.
- 32:54Thoughts on that?
- 32:55I know you were a strong
- 32:57advocate against PED use.
- 33:01He admitted it several times on air.
- 33:06Yeah.
- 33:07I think it's a huge slippery
- 33:09slope to just...
- 33:11I mean, I guess he openly admitted it.
- 33:13So that's different than like people, like,
- 33:15I mean, I suppose if you accuse people,
- 33:16like they can randomly drug test,
- 33:18but I just, I think,
- 33:22I think the problem is
- 33:22going to be if he's able to
- 33:24procure a negative test and
- 33:28then it just shows that probably it's,
- 33:30it's rampant.
- 33:33Well, he said it would take.
- 33:36It would,
- 33:36it would take like 14 days for
- 33:39him to get a negative test.
- 33:41So if I'm CrossFit, I test him like now,
- 33:43right now, I totally agree.
- 33:46Just test.
- 33:48They should not just
- 33:49arbitrarily remove him.
- 33:51They need to follow their
- 33:52protocol and test them and
- 33:56they should test them.
- 33:57Can money for the PR?
- 34:01Yeah.
- 34:05Because it will get views
- 34:07because of Hiller.
- 34:08Right.
- 34:10If they test me, nobody gives a shit.
- 34:15Right?
- 34:16Yeah.
- 34:16Well, maybe a few people,
- 34:17but... But I like that
- 34:21Hiller came out and said
- 34:23they did what they should have done.
- 34:24This is what he was testing
- 34:27them on to see if they would pull him.
- 34:30And they ended up doing that.
- 34:31So...
- 34:34Maybe he won't push the appeal.
- 34:38He's got what,
- 34:39four other profiles in there?
- 34:42Who knows?
- 34:48That is a very good point.
- 34:51They're following the water rules.
- 34:52Admissions are sanctionable
- 34:54without any positive test results.
- 34:56I think it's a good rule.
- 35:02So...
- 35:05And thank you, Kenneth.
- 35:06I'm glad someone gives two shits.
- 35:14Tickets were on sale this
- 35:15week for the CrossFit Games.
- 35:18Super early,
- 35:18so you don't even know who's
- 35:19going to be there this year.
- 35:23And they're sold out.
- 35:25Already sold out.
- 35:25And a whole group of us have
- 35:29no idea when or where we're
- 35:30even competing.
- 35:31How do we make decisions?
- 35:34Right.
- 35:37Yes, they should refund his open fee.
- 35:38That's ridiculous.
- 35:40I mean,
- 35:42I don't know why you don't just let
- 35:43him compete with like an ass.
- 35:48Do they care about the open?
- 35:50Really?
- 35:51Or they just care about advancing?
- 35:52Like, let him compete.
- 35:55Make us have a score with an
- 35:57asterisk or whatever.
- 35:58So you're going to let Anna
- 36:01Frackow compete with an asterisk?
- 36:04Sure.
- 36:05Put your score in.
- 36:06People might want to see
- 36:07where they stack up against these people.
- 36:12I disagree.
- 36:13It's a rule.
- 36:15You're out.
- 36:17They can't compete at the CrossFit Games.
- 36:24A CrossFit sanctioned event.
- 36:28That's what the drug policy covers.
- 36:32All CrossFit sanctioned events.
- 36:34All of the season is CrossFit sanctioned.
- 36:40Yeah.
- 36:46I'm going Sizzler.
- 36:50Coach Krispy Kreme with,
- 36:51if we can compete with an asterisk,
- 36:52I'm going Sizzler.
- 36:59So, yeah.
- 37:05In all the sports I follow,
- 37:06you pot for drugs, you're out.
- 37:09No asterisk.
- 37:10Yeah.
- 37:10I feel like the open is a
- 37:12little bit different than other.
- 37:15I just do.
- 37:16Like, I don't know.
- 37:19It's still as, as a schlep athlete,
- 37:24I still don't want to
- 37:25compete against drug juiced up guys.
- 37:28But are you?
- 37:30Oh, I'm sure.
- 37:32Well, I mean,
- 37:33but are you if it's like an
- 37:35asterisk of some sort or
- 37:37they're not like they're not.
- 37:39Listen,
- 37:40if he wants to do the workouts and
- 37:42post a score on his YouTube,
- 37:43it'll get more views than
- 37:45if we go look at the leaderboard.
- 37:48He can still do that.
- 37:50It's all public.
- 37:51He can do the workouts.
- 37:53He doesn't need to be on the leaderboard.
- 37:54It's 20 bucks for CrossFit.
- 38:04we'll be okay without 20 bucks.
- 38:08I don't know anything about
- 38:10the medical use exemptions, Andrew.
- 38:13We talked to Tony Tursky
- 38:15about it in TRT with the Masters athletes,
- 38:21and there are rules in
- 38:22place of what your testosterone can be.
- 38:27It can't go over a certain level.
- 38:29It's a bunch of stuff.
- 38:32but I am not an expert in
- 38:33that and don't want to say
- 38:35anything that would be, uh, wrong.
- 38:41Yeah.
- 38:41But I am sure there are
- 38:44several masters athletes
- 38:46taking their tea to the,
- 38:48to the line of whatever
- 38:49it's supposed to be.
- 38:55So we had Boz on this week.
- 38:59You did.
- 39:02Got some answers from him.
- 39:04Yeah.
- 39:06I just put a reel out where
- 39:09I asked him about the
- 39:10balance between moving the
- 39:12sport forward and everybody
- 39:14wanting to hold on to the past.
- 39:17And his answer was so eloquent.
- 39:19It was just like,
- 39:21I think a lot of us have
- 39:22the problem where we
- 39:24romanticize the past to a
- 39:26point where it's not what
- 39:28really happened.
- 39:31And those of us who went
- 39:32through it remember the,
- 39:36the stuff they went through.
- 39:38Yeah.
- 39:41So I just thought that was cool.
- 39:43Yeah.
- 39:43I thought he did good on
- 39:45speaking on like several fronts of that.
- 39:47And like,
- 39:50getting stuck in a routine
- 39:51or like once you know
- 39:52Madison and this is how you
- 39:53run things like change is hard,
- 39:56but like you, you know,
- 39:57the best growth is made out of change.
- 39:59So maybe we'll find
- 40:00something great out of the move to,
- 40:04to Dickies.
- 40:05Like, you know, I mean,
- 40:08we like to complain, but he's right.
- 40:10You get stuck in a rut or
- 40:12you just do things.
- 40:13Cause that's the way it's been done.
- 40:14It might not be the best way to do it.
- 40:16Yeah.
- 40:18Yeah.
- 40:20uh, like no layouts in the open this year.
- 40:24I, I mean,
- 40:25I think that's the way to do it.
- 40:27Like it's hard on the gyms
- 40:28to set up floors and stuff like just,
- 40:31they just said like safety guidelines,
- 40:33like don't put the walk rig under the,
- 40:35yeah, perfect.
- 40:36Like, yeah.
- 40:37Like if there's a rower and a pull up bar,
- 40:41maybe six feet just to make
- 40:42sure people don't kill
- 40:44themselves or let a bar
- 40:46roll under them while
- 40:47they're on the pull up bar.
- 40:48Yeah.
- 40:48Things like that.
- 40:50but no like big time layouts
- 40:51like in the past.
- 40:55Which leads me to believe
- 40:57there's no lunging or shuttling.
- 41:04Well, I think you can have shuttling.
- 41:07We did that before layouts.
- 41:10We did handstand walks.
- 41:11We did bear crawls.
- 41:13We did lunges.
- 41:16It's just like a tape line
- 41:17at the end and beginning
- 41:20instead of like a whole box
- 41:22measured out six feet from
- 41:24the edge line to this.
- 41:27You know what I mean?
- 41:27Sure.
- 41:28Yeah.
- 41:30Yeah.
- 41:32I asked him about the
- 41:33masters and why in the age group,
- 41:36why we don't have dates and times.
- 41:41And he said, trying to find the right fit.
- 41:44So everybody has a great
- 41:45experience and they're
- 41:47struggling with that.
- 41:48And I asked him,
- 41:50do you have systems in
- 41:51place that this will not
- 41:52happen again after what
- 41:54you've learned this year?
- 41:56And he said, yes.
- 42:00Well, I would assume that,
- 42:02Like, with Dickies, they got, what,
- 42:04a two-year, at least?
- 42:06I don't know.
- 42:08I mean,
- 42:08I assume whatever they finally lock
- 42:10in for Masters,
- 42:12they're going to lock in for two years.
- 42:15Or if they don't get what they want,
- 42:17if they have to end up
- 42:18settling on something soon,
- 42:21they're probably going to
- 42:22continue to push whatever
- 42:23they want and continue to
- 42:25work on it for the next
- 42:26several months until they
- 42:27can lock it in for the following year.
- 42:29I would assume.
- 42:30I really wish, though, he would have...
- 42:33been more open with that and
- 42:36I don't know if it has to
- 42:37do with whatever city
- 42:38they're working with has
- 42:39asked for like no I like I
- 42:44just wish he would have
- 42:45been like listen like we're
- 42:46trying to go over to the
- 42:47east coast and we're
- 42:49struggling but like these
- 42:50are our three options we
- 42:51hope to have a date have a
- 42:53place for you within the
- 42:55next month you know we're
- 42:56still working on some
- 42:57things I just just some
- 42:59like can't they be more
- 43:00forthcoming they have to know something
- 43:04You'd have to think they, right.
- 43:06They have like three they're
- 43:07working on trying to figure it out.
- 43:09I would hope they're down to
- 43:12two or one at this point
- 43:14and just negotiating details.
- 43:16But my gosh, like we, I mean,
- 43:19why can't you put that out
- 43:20there in Michigan?
- 43:22Exactly.
- 43:23We just don't know when.
- 43:25Well, I think it's pretty clear.
- 43:26There's is going to be the
- 43:27exact same weekend.
- 43:28It's always been.
- 43:29Like,
- 43:30that's the thing is I feel like
- 43:32everyone knows everything
- 43:33except for the wheel wads set.
- 43:36Time, place.
- 43:37Pit, place for sure.
- 43:40Time, I think,
- 43:41is pretty certain amongst everybody.
- 43:44Zero for Masters.
- 43:46Like, give us something.
- 43:47Just be like,
- 43:48it's down to these two cities.
- 43:49We're still working on it.
- 43:50I don't know.
- 43:56I couldn't agree more.
- 43:57You should have asked that.
- 43:59I would have.
- 44:02I think the interesting
- 44:03thing is consistent
- 44:04programming this year for the semis.
- 44:07Yeah.
- 44:08Even though the facilities
- 44:10are going to be very
- 44:10different and I'm going to
- 44:13be anxious to see how that turns out.
- 44:17And especially with the
- 44:18tennis stadium compared to
- 44:21indoor basketball arenas,
- 44:26that is a completely different floor.
- 44:31Well, if they put down the mats,
- 44:32it all works out to be the same floor.
- 44:35Different shape, though.
- 44:37Yeah.
- 44:39I mean,
- 44:40do you think they'll take that into
- 44:41consideration when they're
- 44:42trying to program things to
- 44:43make sure it can be as
- 44:45uniform as possible?
- 44:45Like, sure,
- 44:46one might be one might have a
- 44:48little bit of extra space,
- 44:51which would suck because then you can't
- 44:54You can't really compare
- 44:55times if they aren't the same,
- 44:57but it's not a global leaderboard,
- 45:00so it doesn't really matter
- 45:01if it's hotter outside in
- 45:04California than the indoor.
- 45:05It doesn't really matter.
- 45:06The people there are a redo
- 45:12of the sled drag debacle.
- 45:15Different floor material.
- 45:17Yeah.
- 45:17Someone on a podcast I was
- 45:18watching brought up the,
- 45:20I think it was with
- 45:21something chase was on and
- 45:23he'd lost his shit, but like,
- 45:26can't we do a global
- 45:27leaderboard in the top 40?
- 45:28Just go to the games.
- 45:30There are too many.
- 45:31You look at these venues.
- 45:32There's no way you can make
- 45:35a consistent flooring to compare.
- 45:39It sucks.
- 45:41That's what I would like to see.
- 45:42Or some outdoor.
- 45:44You know,
- 45:44Tori and we learned last year
- 45:45their floor was way faster than the U.S.
- 45:49floor.
- 45:51It just... You just have to.
- 45:56Yep, it sucks.
- 45:59He also announced the
- 46:00quarterfinals will be done
- 46:02in a way where everybody
- 46:03can kind of put their toe
- 46:05on the start line and start the event,
- 46:07but not everybody's going to finish.
- 46:09Yep.
- 46:10So we're having all...
- 46:14all the like gated workouts
- 46:16or ascending weight or interesting.
- 46:25And then I asked him about working with,
- 46:28Dave and Dawn.
- 46:30Um,
- 46:31I was really curious about the Dave one
- 46:33because it's,
- 46:34it's like he got this gig
- 46:37and then the guy who had
- 46:38the gig before shows back up.
- 46:41How does that work?
- 46:42And, you know,
- 46:43he's like him and Dave been
- 46:45through some shit and that
- 46:47because of that,
- 46:48they're very open and
- 46:50honest with each other and
- 46:50have a great working
- 46:52relationship together.
- 46:54Um,
- 46:56and he was very complimentary of
- 46:57working for Dawn.
- 47:00which was really cool.
- 47:02My overall impressions,
- 47:04I'm always impressed with Boz.
- 47:05That man is so level.
- 47:07He never gets emotional
- 47:09about anything you ask him.
- 47:11It's just straight across the board.
- 47:14It's just really cool to see
- 47:19how well he handles himself.
- 47:21Yeah, I agree.
- 47:27So then we have,
- 47:30This week,
- 47:30something happened where my
- 47:33worlds collided.
- 47:35Cause like I'm a huge sports fan.
- 47:37I watch a lot of sports
- 47:38stuff and I've been diving
- 47:40a lot into football because
- 47:42of the playoffs and my love
- 47:44for the bears.
- 47:46And what are they doing with
- 47:46Justin Fields?
- 47:48But I'm watching Pat McAfee
- 47:51and on comes Tom Brady
- 47:53talking about his merger with noble.
- 47:59On the Pat McAfee show.
- 48:03Noble never got that kind of
- 48:05media coverage ever.
- 48:08Nope.
- 48:11So what are your initial
- 48:14thoughts about Tom Brady
- 48:16and Noble merging?
- 48:18I don't know.
- 48:22I mean,
- 48:22they seem to be going that route
- 48:24with into the football space.
- 48:25So like, isn't the biggest shock.
- 48:29I not a fan of noble, so it is what it is.
- 48:33Like they're out of pretty
- 48:35much out of the crosses space and okay.
- 48:38Cool.
- 48:40What I found interesting and
- 48:42pretty fascinating is Tom
- 48:45Brady's looking at it as a
- 48:47way to market his pliability programs.
- 48:54Hmm.
- 48:57that it gets him closer to
- 49:02average Joe American.
- 49:05Interesting.
- 49:08So I don't think it's,
- 49:10it's about the shoes that
- 49:12he's merging with them for.
- 49:14It's probably apparel and
- 49:16it's probably equipment for
- 49:19his pliability program.
- 49:21And probably like developing
- 49:23an app or something like
- 49:25that to make it more
- 49:27accessible for everyday people.
- 49:32So I think it's going to be
- 49:33a shift in focus for Noble.
- 49:36Yeah.
- 49:38And maybe not the shoes that suck anyway.
- 49:42Yeah.
- 49:48So I just thought that was interesting.
- 49:51Yeah.
- 49:52He'll probably turn the company around.
- 49:55Um,
- 49:56the next thing I had was got an email
- 50:00from CrossFit this week.
- 50:03Got a lot of them, um,
- 50:06that they are going to be
- 50:08reducing the media
- 50:10footprint at the CrossFit games.
- 50:16And so
- 50:19They were warning us that
- 50:21just because you got media
- 50:24credentials last year,
- 50:26doesn't mean you're going
- 50:27to get them this year.
- 50:28Right.
- 50:31Because with it being all indoors,
- 50:34they don't have this
- 50:34massive soccer field to
- 50:39have 100 photographers taking pictures.
- 50:44Andrew, there is no media pits.
- 50:47The press release said that.
- 50:51It is,
- 50:52we get the front row of the one side
- 50:57will all be media.
- 51:01but it's not a place where
- 51:03you can stand and move.
- 51:07You know what I mean?
- 51:08When you're in a row of seats,
- 51:11you can't move up and down
- 51:12the floor to get pictures or whatever.
- 51:18So I want to just put it out there.
- 51:22One,
- 51:23I think I don't need to take pictures
- 51:27at the CrossFit Games.
- 51:30That's not my, it's not my specialty.
- 51:32It's not what I do best.
- 51:34I'd rather have someone do it for me.
- 51:37Like we did with Jess and Teddy last year.
- 51:42I'd rather like,
- 51:43why don't they have a press box?
- 51:46A brand new facility for
- 51:48people like me who are just
- 51:50covering the sport.
- 51:52And I don't need to be that
- 51:54close to the action.
- 51:55I just need to be able to
- 51:56see what's going on so I
- 51:58can cover it as an analyst
- 52:00and a media company.
- 52:02Yep.
- 52:02So yeah,
- 52:09I would think with a brand new arena,
- 52:11they probably have a press box.
- 52:14Like why not use that for the press?
- 52:18And then like the
- 52:19videographers and
- 52:20photographers can have that front row.
- 52:22Doesn't that make sense?
- 52:27Completely.
- 52:28You should have asked Bob this.
- 52:33I'm actually thinking about
- 52:34putting it in an email and
- 52:36sending it back to Chris.
- 52:38I think that's great idea.
- 52:41Yeah,
- 52:41because I think there's quite a few
- 52:45people in that camp that
- 52:46don't necessarily need the still shots.
- 52:52That's gonna be I feel like
- 52:53that's a little bit more of
- 52:54like your couple photographers, but like,
- 52:57that'll be more of your
- 52:59camps that want to have a
- 53:01media person being able to
- 53:02get photos or videos of
- 53:05their athletes on the floor.
- 53:06That's completely different
- 53:08than what you do.
- 53:09I feel like the media and
- 53:11the photography need to be
- 53:13like separate somehow.
- 53:15And even like...
- 53:17have a press pool of media like that,
- 53:21like still shots of every,
- 53:23of every athlete that we
- 53:24can go grab to do or whatever.
- 53:26And,
- 53:32I look at it like when I'm, again,
- 53:34I've been diving deep in the NFL.
- 53:36I'm a big Chicago Bears fan.
- 53:38Their sports writers,
- 53:39their beat writers are in the press box.
- 53:43They're writing the story so
- 53:45that they can do like a
- 53:46wrap-up show afterwards on their podcast,
- 53:50just like we would be doing.
- 53:51They're not taking the pictures, right?
- 53:55Like the Chicago Tribune has
- 53:57photographers that don't write.
- 54:00They just shoot pictures.
- 54:04So I think that we need to
- 54:08advance the way we look at
- 54:10coverage at events like that.
- 54:13Back in the day,
- 54:14everybody was doing
- 54:15everything because that's all we could,
- 54:18we didn't have anybody else, right?
- 54:21Yeah.
- 54:21My first year at the games,
- 54:22I'm taking the pictures,
- 54:23I'm taking the video,
- 54:25I'm doing the podcast,
- 54:26I'm doing all that myself.
- 54:28But you got to develop into
- 54:30an area where that's not
- 54:31the case anymore.
- 54:33Mm-hmm.
- 54:35And then throughout the week
- 54:37they're on different shows.
- 54:39They've talked about alternative media to,
- 54:45to be different and not
- 54:46just do the same old, same old.
- 54:48And I think I said it on here,
- 54:50either on the round table or last week,
- 54:53watching the behind the scenes,
- 54:55you see so many cameras,
- 54:57like so many people in the
- 54:59underbelly of the,
- 55:01the arena doing buttery bros doing theirs,
- 55:04Craig Ritchie doing theirs,
- 55:06Savan doing his,
- 55:07and then you have mayhem down there.
- 55:09You have Lauren Khalil down there.
- 55:11You have Wikey down there.
- 55:13You have coffee pods and wads down there.
- 55:16You have all these people
- 55:16walking around doing the same damn thing.
- 55:23So like, so then my, my brain's rolling.
- 55:27Like, what can we do?
- 55:28That's different than that.
- 55:32And I think the mic'd up is
- 55:34a really cool concept.
- 55:39I love that coverage, yeah.
- 55:42You mic up an athlete,
- 55:45you get kind of the behind
- 55:46the scenes stuff.
- 55:47And I know that that comes with...
- 55:52rebuttal from another side
- 55:53that thinks that you're not
- 55:55getting the real person or
- 55:56it's going to be too much
- 55:57pressure for the athlete.
- 56:00They're going to feel forced
- 56:01to do it to stay competitive.
- 56:03But I just,
- 56:04I think like when I watched my
- 56:06football mic'd ups,
- 56:08the football player forgets
- 56:09they're mic'd up at some point.
- 56:10Yeah.
- 56:12And it becomes real.
- 56:15Dallin Pepper said,
- 56:17why not have still cameras
- 56:18in the warmup area?
- 56:21Like nobody manning them,
- 56:22just still cameras of them
- 56:24like warming up and chatting.
- 56:27And that's great B-roll.
- 56:29Yeah.
- 56:30You know,
- 56:31stuff that we don't get to see normally.
- 56:35And then you look at Rogue.
- 56:37Like why the hell aren't
- 56:39other competitions doing
- 56:41that alternate broadcast
- 56:43that Rogue did with the
- 56:45four camera angles and the
- 56:47alternate broadcast?
- 56:50Because I would pay for that
- 56:52every freaking comp.
- 56:57It was so much better than
- 56:58the regular one.
- 57:01Yeah.
- 57:02I mean,
- 57:02if you can't get to the camp and
- 57:05that's your cheaper ticket,
- 57:08That's, I mean, that's reasonable.
- 57:13Yeah.
- 57:14Kendra.
- 57:15Great point.
- 57:16Live feed from the warmup
- 57:17area comes with the premium
- 57:19game game stream.
- 57:23Yeah.
- 57:29Tristan makes a great point.
- 57:31Michael, Mike McDaniel, the dolphins,
- 57:33like that guy mic'd up is
- 57:35pure gold every week.
- 57:38yeah so then it comes to
- 57:41like other other events uh
- 57:45open announcements that's a
- 57:49way to uh hopefully not
- 57:57anymore andrew andrew says
- 57:59can't do that uh then we'd
- 58:01see ricky get past
- 58:02something fishy oh I'd love
- 58:07to see you mic'd up tristan
- 58:10He'd probably blow out the
- 58:11mic after a minute.
- 58:17Open announcements.
- 58:18This was talked about on, I think,
- 58:21Coffee Pods and Wads around
- 58:23the whiteboard.
- 58:25Like, how can we make them more exciting?
- 58:29And basically, they all said,
- 58:35we need to stop having the
- 58:36friendly competition.
- 58:40Like,
- 58:40it should be Roman versus Adler in
- 58:43the first open announcement.
- 58:47Let's get it on.
- 58:49Love it.
- 58:49Let's settle this once and for all.
- 58:53And look at the matchups.
- 58:54Like,
- 58:54how interesting of a matchup can you
- 58:56make instead of... And like,
- 59:02I think it was O'Keefe said,
- 59:04Dallin and Hopper.
- 59:05Like, those two talk smack all the time.
- 59:08Yeah.
- 59:09And they're just good personalities.
- 59:12Of course,
- 59:13like Laura and Tia would be
- 59:15awesome from just a
- 59:17competitive standpoint.
- 59:18But I thought like Ariel and Alex,
- 59:21when they did that
- 59:21head-to-head burpee box over event,
- 59:26like burpee for burpee,
- 59:30it was almost a virtual tie.
- 59:33Let's settle this like once and for all.
- 59:39I like Justin versus Lazar, Ken.
- 59:41That's a good one.
- 59:47That's a great one.
- 59:48That is a good one.
- 59:51That's a great one.
- 59:53In a bike race.
- 59:57Yeah.
- 59:59Emma Carey versus the wall.
- 1:00:07I just think like they need
- 1:00:09to be more thoughtful of
- 1:00:12instead of it being like two friends,
- 1:00:15like what makes the best matchup.
- 1:00:21Agreed.
- 1:00:23And you got to know the workout.
- 1:00:24Like let's get our two
- 1:00:27gymnastics athletes
- 1:00:28together for a gymnastic
- 1:00:30open announcement.
- 1:00:34Tristan says,
- 1:00:35Burtons versus literally anyone.
- 1:00:37Well,
- 1:00:37since Waterpalooza called them all
- 1:00:39bitches, probably.
- 1:00:41He was having some serious
- 1:00:44trash talking that weekend.
- 1:00:47He was.
- 1:00:49He's really become kind of
- 1:00:51like one of the biggest
- 1:00:51trash talkers in the sport.
- 1:00:53Yeah.
- 1:00:54But I just think like, I think it was...
- 1:01:01I can't remember who said,
- 1:01:03it might've been Will
- 1:01:04Branstetter said that, you know, the NFL,
- 1:01:09it was O'Keefe.
- 1:01:10And then Branstetter kind of jumped on it.
- 1:01:13O'Keefe said that the NFL
- 1:01:14for a couple of years has
- 1:01:16been trying to push
- 1:01:18alternative media like TikTok and,
- 1:01:22and allowing that like on
- 1:01:24the field access to them to
- 1:01:26be able to do like cool
- 1:01:28TikToks to promote the league.
- 1:01:29Yeah.
- 1:01:31And you have a big, um,
- 1:01:34and if like the NFL is the
- 1:01:35biggest sport in the world
- 1:01:37doing that and yet CrossFit
- 1:01:39like restricts that.
- 1:01:41Yeah.
- 1:01:44Right there.
- 1:01:45The NFL is still trying to
- 1:01:46grow and they're the
- 1:01:47biggest in the world.
- 1:01:49CrossFit's rejecting those,
- 1:01:51those thoughts and those ideas.
- 1:01:53Yeah.
- 1:01:56Which is crazy.
- 1:01:58It is.
- 1:01:58I don't know why they want to.
- 1:02:04They're,
- 1:02:06they're trying to be so in control
- 1:02:09of the narrative, yet.
- 1:02:10They're so not like they, you know,
- 1:02:13it's so strange.
- 1:02:21I don't think we'd turn into WWE.
- 1:02:23The NFL has not come close to that.
- 1:02:26Um, scripting just for drama.
- 1:02:28It's an open announcement.
- 1:02:30It's not an official piece of the games.
- 1:02:34Like let those stories play
- 1:02:36out naturally at the games,
- 1:02:39but an open announcement,
- 1:02:40you only have three of them.
- 1:02:41It's at the very start of the season.
- 1:02:43You're just trying to get
- 1:02:44people excited and people
- 1:02:46to sign up and they're just
- 1:02:48add a little drama.
- 1:02:49Are they going to actually
- 1:02:50do open announcements this year?
- 1:02:52Did they say they are?
- 1:02:53I do believe they are.
- 1:02:57And I do believe they've
- 1:02:59talked about locations maybe.
- 1:03:01Okay.
- 1:03:03But nothing's been announced.
- 1:03:07I feel, I mean,
- 1:03:07I feel like Savan's just
- 1:03:09trying to take that over
- 1:03:09with Taylor versus the
- 1:03:12world or whoever he's pairing up.
- 1:03:19You know,
- 1:03:19I actually thought that'd be
- 1:03:21something cool we could do
- 1:03:23with you if you weren't
- 1:03:25hurt all the time.
- 1:03:26That'd be fun.
- 1:03:32Yeah,
- 1:03:32I can try to do some open
- 1:03:33announcements for you.
- 1:03:36So I thought, you know,
- 1:03:37because you have a female perspective.
- 1:03:40Sure.
- 1:03:44But...
- 1:03:47And who knows,
- 1:03:47maybe we can get some of the
- 1:03:49people who have agreed to
- 1:03:51kind of hang out with us
- 1:03:52for the season to jump on,
- 1:03:54do it from their location
- 1:03:56and your location at the same time.
- 1:03:58A little friendly.
- 1:04:00That would be fun.
- 1:04:05So.
- 1:04:05Bring it on.
- 1:04:06Let's go.
- 1:04:10One Rip Mac Snatch, you and Hannah Black.
- 1:04:15Yeah.
- 1:04:16Yeah.
- 1:04:17That would not be super fun to watch,
- 1:04:20but... Yeah.
- 1:04:24Oh, Tristan's going to go against me.
- 1:04:27I'd film it.
- 1:04:28That'd be fun.
- 1:04:33But we could even talk to
- 1:04:34Kelly or anybody like that.
- 1:04:37Work with Ascend to get some athletes on.
- 1:04:40Get them some exposure.
- 1:04:45Be a fun time.
- 1:04:46Yeah.
- 1:04:49I wanted to finish it up
- 1:04:50with this question that was on death by.
- 1:04:53Okay.
- 1:04:57And it is of all the
- 1:04:59athletes that didn't make
- 1:05:00the games last year.
- 1:05:03Who do you think has the
- 1:05:04best chance to make the games this year?
- 1:05:08Now I'm going to put a
- 1:05:09caveat on this because I
- 1:05:13want this to be interesting because
- 1:05:15I think there are four
- 1:05:16obvious choices that I'm
- 1:05:17taking out of the,
- 1:05:19the picks and that is Tina,
- 1:05:22Ricky Saxon and Brooke.
- 1:05:25Okay.
- 1:05:28Oh, boy.
- 1:05:29Tia pregnancy,
- 1:05:31the other three because of injury.
- 1:05:32I think that they are
- 1:05:35obvious choices to make it back.
- 1:05:37I want a more deep dive who
- 1:05:40you think will make it to
- 1:05:42the games this year who did not last.
- 1:05:44And do you want me to go
- 1:05:46first or do you have
- 1:05:47something written down?
- 1:05:51I'll let you go first.
- 1:05:54Kenneth just took mine.
- 1:05:56That's what I was going to say.
- 1:05:58on a career.
- 1:05:59Yeah.
- 1:06:01I think this is the year she
- 1:06:02gets over the hump.
- 1:06:05Yeah, I do too.
- 1:06:07Um, for some reason,
- 1:06:08I just have a feeling like
- 1:06:09programming wise is gonna
- 1:06:11go in her favor.
- 1:06:12Um, man.
- 1:06:23Yeah, that's, that's a super tough one.
- 1:06:27Because I
- 1:06:29As much as I would want to
- 1:06:30say like Rebecca,
- 1:06:33it's so programming
- 1:06:34dependent that maybe after
- 1:06:37I saw the open workouts and
- 1:06:40could maybe have like an
- 1:06:41idea of where they're trying to head,
- 1:06:43you could say, but that's,
- 1:06:48she's too programming dependent,
- 1:06:49I feel like to say her.
- 1:06:54And then we got a bunch that
- 1:06:55are going team.
- 1:06:57Yeah.
- 1:07:00I just don't know.
- 1:07:01Like, I don't know either.
- 1:07:04I don't know what Haley
- 1:07:05Adams are getting back.
- 1:07:09Right.
- 1:07:10Like her on the leaderboard.
- 1:07:13Like, I don't know.
- 1:07:15I would give Rebecca a better shot.
- 1:07:18I think Rebecca has a great shot.
- 1:07:20What she did at Wadapalooza
- 1:07:21with her strength numbers.
- 1:07:23She is getting stronger.
- 1:07:27she just has to shrink that
- 1:07:28gap a little bit.
- 1:07:31And then hopefully that
- 1:07:32translates to moving
- 1:07:34moderate weight faster.
- 1:07:39But I think, but I think that that is,
- 1:07:45I think she has a great
- 1:07:45shot on the men's side.
- 1:07:48I think my horse is William Leahy.
- 1:07:58Now Hatfield.
- 1:08:02I think Hatfield is very much like Colton.
- 1:08:06He has home runs and then he has singles.
- 1:08:10And until Colton minimized the gap, like,
- 1:08:16and even now that he's minimized the gap,
- 1:08:19he's a on the cut line.
- 1:08:23He's on the cut line athlete
- 1:08:25to get to the games.
- 1:08:31Man, Tyler Crisfo,
- 1:08:35I kind of think he might be done, though.
- 1:08:40Or as John Young would put it,
- 1:08:41he's on the cliff.
- 1:08:43Yeah.
- 1:08:47Tetlo?
- 1:08:50I'd have to talk to Tetlo.
- 1:08:52It's all dependent for me on
- 1:08:56how much he can commit.
- 1:09:00family is his number one
- 1:09:01priority and has always been.
- 1:09:04And it all depends on where they're at.
- 1:09:08And I know his wife just
- 1:09:09opened a tattoo shop.
- 1:09:12So how much time does he get
- 1:09:14to actually train?
- 1:09:16Yeah.
- 1:09:17Cause I think that's the
- 1:09:18only thing that's ever held Tetlo back.
- 1:09:23I'd say it'd be somebody like Hoffer,
- 1:09:25Victor Hoffer.
- 1:09:30That was one of the picks.
- 1:09:32Okay.
- 1:09:36The tough thing was they
- 1:09:37were all picking their own people.
- 1:09:40Oh.
- 1:09:41Right.
- 1:09:43Yeah.
- 1:09:43I think Kotler picked Sarah.
- 1:09:45Yeah.
- 1:09:48Victor is HWPO.
- 1:09:50So O'Keefe picked him.
- 1:09:55And Chase Ingram picked Maddie Sturt.
- 1:10:01Yeah.
- 1:10:03That's a tough region for
- 1:10:05her to get out of.
- 1:10:08That Australian super team, holy cow.
- 1:10:11Is it Emily DeRoy?
- 1:10:12Is she the fourth?
- 1:10:14Yep, Cara, Emily, and Sean and Newberry.
- 1:10:19Yep.
- 1:10:23Yeah, that super team.
- 1:10:24We were actually,
- 1:10:25I was texting the
- 1:10:26roundtable crew tonight.
- 1:10:28That team is jacked.
- 1:10:31And it's going to be interesting.
- 1:10:37And then you,
- 1:10:39I kind of wish Royce was on the team.
- 1:10:41Then you'd have like, like Royce and Cara.
- 1:10:45I feel it'd be your two,
- 1:10:47like super strong athletes.
- 1:10:49Although Emily's super strong,
- 1:10:50but I don't know.
- 1:10:54I love James.
- 1:10:56Like, I just love that dude.
- 1:10:59Yeah.
- 1:10:59He's a good guy.
- 1:10:59I,
- 1:11:01I feel like his high-end
- 1:11:03CrossFit games appearances
- 1:11:08are just kind of over.
- 1:11:10I'm sure he'll be... I know.
- 1:11:13And with this team behind him,
- 1:11:15maybe he will.
- 1:11:17I just... I don't know.
- 1:11:19I'll be curious what he puts forth.
- 1:11:23So, as it stands today,
- 1:11:26you have the Australian Super Team.
- 1:11:27Mm-hmm.
- 1:11:30and you have noah tola
- 1:11:35mathilde and uh are they
- 1:11:45are they going with that
- 1:11:46with kelly baker's teammate
- 1:11:49no uh oslo oslo uh shoot
- 1:11:59She was on Oslo Blue.
- 1:12:07Lena Richter.
- 1:12:08Oh, yes.
- 1:12:09Yes.
- 1:12:11So Lena Richter, Mathilde Garnes,
- 1:12:14Noah Olsen, and Tola Maracanão.
- 1:12:18And then you have Newberry Khan, Cara,
- 1:12:23and Emily DeRoy.
- 1:12:25Who do you got right now?
- 1:12:29Tola steam.
- 1:12:35I think Tola is more well-rounded.
- 1:12:37Tola's team.
- 1:12:39Like Noah's going to get all
- 1:12:42the gymnastic stuff.
- 1:12:44I was going to hit all the big weights.
- 1:12:47Matilde is very versatile
- 1:12:50and really strong for her size.
- 1:12:52And Lena has been on a team
- 1:12:54that has done so well for so long.
- 1:12:57Right.
- 1:12:57Like she just knows how to
- 1:12:58play the team game.
- 1:13:02Yeah.
- 1:13:03Ken,
- 1:13:03that was where my head went when the
- 1:13:04question was announced.
- 1:13:06Who made it?
- 1:13:07Who isn't going to?
- 1:13:10But that just seems mean.
- 1:13:12Well, let's do it.
- 1:13:13I don't think it's that mean.
- 1:13:17But I think they're like, again,
- 1:13:18there's so many obvious answers.
- 1:13:23Yeah.
- 1:13:24I mean, yeah, you get your bottom.
- 1:13:26Anne Haines isn't coming back.
- 1:13:28Right.
- 1:13:29Well, that was a
- 1:13:31Fill in anyway.
- 1:13:32Right.
- 1:13:35But of the bigger names...
- 1:13:43If Yella doesn't make it back,
- 1:13:45I will be very frustrated
- 1:13:46with the system.
- 1:13:47I wouldn't say him.
- 1:13:48I think he's... I don't know.
- 1:13:54On the female side,
- 1:13:57I think Shelby Neal is going to struggle.
- 1:14:04And I only say that from
- 1:14:06like watching from a distance,
- 1:14:08she's withdrawn from
- 1:14:09competitions to take care of herself.
- 1:14:13And I think like she got a
- 1:14:16lot in a short amount of
- 1:14:17time and a lot of attention.
- 1:14:19And I think that it's just
- 1:14:21going to be a struggle for
- 1:14:22her going back next year on
- 1:14:26the men's side.
- 1:14:27I'll say hot and hot blinded.
- 1:14:34I think Will Morad.
- 1:14:35Yeah, that's a good one.
- 1:14:39And I love Will.
- 1:14:41But dude was at the first
- 1:14:42regional I ever worked.
- 1:14:44And that's a long time ago.
- 1:14:47Yeah, I mean,
- 1:14:48I kind of thought he was like
- 1:14:49retiring anyway.
- 1:14:54Will never retires.
- 1:14:56And he'll probably still
- 1:14:57make it because he's Will Morad.
- 1:15:00Right.
- 1:15:02Ellie Turner's a great pick.
- 1:15:04Yeah.
- 1:15:06I think Australia is getting stronger,
- 1:15:08but she may luck out
- 1:15:10depending on what's determined with Tia.
- 1:15:14Agreed.
- 1:15:15And with the girls going
- 1:15:17team and the underdogs
- 1:15:23athlete who is a mother.
- 1:15:26She had got the hernia.
- 1:15:30So she's been out for a little bit.
- 1:15:35Oh, um, Van Zyl.
- 1:15:38Van Zyl.
- 1:15:39Yeah.
- 1:15:39Yeah.
- 1:15:40Van Zyl.
- 1:15:41Yeah.
- 1:15:41So he's out.
- 1:15:43Emily DeRoy is on team.
- 1:15:44Tia doesn't compete there.
- 1:15:48Then you're like Grace Walton,
- 1:15:49Maddie Sturt, Ellie.
- 1:15:52Probably.
- 1:15:57Sarah, if you're Justin picking.
- 1:16:03Justin.
- 1:16:03Justin.
- 1:16:04toddler picking sarah well
- 1:16:06she won't be in australia
- 1:16:07oh that won't be the yeah
- 1:16:09that'll be the she'll be in
- 1:16:11europe yep yeah they're
- 1:16:15both I feel like those are
- 1:16:16both the tough europe's
- 1:16:17getting totally screwed
- 1:16:20yeah when I said to boss I
- 1:16:22hated that 40 60 or 40 80 I
- 1:16:25know that's just dumb
- 1:16:34Yeah.
- 1:16:34I just, Sarah, I just, I,
- 1:16:39as much as I want her to make it back,
- 1:16:42I think it's over.
- 1:16:45I do too.
- 1:16:47I hope she proves me wrong,
- 1:16:49but I think it's over.
- 1:16:51Yeah.
- 1:16:52Yep.
- 1:16:57So, well,
- 1:16:59I think we covered all the topics
- 1:17:01for the night.
- 1:17:03Yeah.
- 1:17:05Kenneth, that's just mean.
- 1:17:10Andrew said she should go team.
- 1:17:12Not a good idea.
- 1:17:14That's really probably where
- 1:17:16she should have been focused.
- 1:17:18Just to get healthy.
- 1:17:20Yep.
- 1:17:26Well, with that,
- 1:17:28that's a wrap for tonight.
- 1:17:33And we'll be back next week.
- 1:17:35And we may have... We
- 1:17:37probably will have...
- 1:17:39a big announcement about the
- 1:17:41show and where we may be
- 1:17:45appearing live somewhere.
- 1:17:48So super stoked for that.
- 1:17:52Just started the details today.
- 1:17:54Hopefully we'll have a full
- 1:17:56announcement for you guys
- 1:17:57next week because I want
- 1:17:59some input on this announcement.
- 1:18:02So make sure you tune back
- 1:18:03in to us next Thursday
- 1:18:05night for the big
- 1:18:06announcement about the show.
- 1:18:09And we will see everybody
- 1:18:11next time on Thursday night.
- 1:18:16CrossFit talk.
- 1:18:17I do that slow so I can get
- 1:18:19to the end piece and now I'm there.
- 1:18:21So bye guys.