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Mac & Bone Hour 3: NFC South a Two Team Race? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I believe in Bryce Young. I think Bryce Young
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  Speaker 3: has done a tremendous job. And here's why I believe
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  Speaker 3: in him. I believe in him, one, because of his talent.
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  Speaker 3: But I believe him because of the weapons he's got.
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  Speaker 3: But most importantly, I believe him because he's got Dave
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  Speaker 3: Canales as his head coach. Dave Canales, my guy, I
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  Speaker 3: was with him years ago in Seattle. He was my
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  Speaker 3: assistant quarterback coach, then quarterback coach. He coached receivers. He's
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  Speaker 3: been in the game. He understands everything. culture he understands
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  Speaker 3: the winning philosophy understands competitive and the competitive nature that
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  Speaker 3: coach carroll always instilled but dave canales understands ball we
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  Speaker 3: used to spend so much time so many hours him
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  Speaker 3: and tater he's also got a guy in coach daryl
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  Speaker 3: bevel in that room he's got tater in the room
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  Speaker 3: they got my coaches that i've had for years in
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  Speaker 3: the room i love these guys These guys meant the
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  Speaker 3: world to me and helped set up my career. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Bryce Young is surrounded around some of the
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  Speaker 3: best teachers.
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  Speaker 4: You know why?
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  Speaker 3: They don't overcomplicate it. They keep it simple. They allow
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  Speaker 3: you to do what you do best. I think Dave Canales,
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  Speaker 3: if these Panthers do what they are doing, they can
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  Speaker 3: win the NFC South.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: I've always loved that guy, Russell Wilson. Always loved him, Bone.
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  Speaker 5: Always wanted to hear him talk. Always valued his opinion.
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  Speaker 5: I've always been an amazing Russell Wilson fan. And right there,
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  Speaker 5: he continues to make me happy.
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  Speaker 2: He's not. He's not terrible on TV, I will say.
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  Speaker 1: He's not.
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  Speaker 5: No, I can't stand the guy. But I love that
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  Speaker 5: right there. I love that right there. And yeah, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people have made the Russ comparison to.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce, obviously, right?
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  Speaker 5: Because of their, uh, because small quarterbacks, even though different frames, right?
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  Speaker 5: Bruss much bulkier. Um, and, and that's one of the
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  Speaker 5: things people have said with the Canalis factors. Oh, Baker
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  Speaker 5: Mayfield's not a huge quarterback. Russ is not a huge quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: Look at what Canalis did to help those guys. Um,
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  Speaker 5: and so, and you don't, as Russ points out, you
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  Speaker 5: don't only just have Canalis here from Russ's past in Seattle, Brad,
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  Speaker 5: Brad Idzik was there. Um, Bevel was there. Old Tater Smith,
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  Speaker 5: Tracy Smith's dad, who they brought on here. What a
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  Speaker 5: great name that is. One of the best nicknames going.
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  Speaker 5: Would you not want to be friends with a guy
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  Speaker 5: named Tater Smith?
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  Speaker 2: That's cool, man. That's a cool nickname. How do I
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  Speaker 2: get to be Tater? I'd like to be Tater. You
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  Speaker 2: can be plenty of them. I feel like that's a
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  Speaker 2: little pot-cattle-ish there from Vinny, though. A little bit? A
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  Speaker 2: little bit, yeah. A little bit.
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  Speaker 5: This man, there's no doubt this man has grabbed a
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  Speaker 5: lot of fries through a window. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: So the tater talk, a little rich. But anyway, all right,
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  Speaker 5: so love it. There's Bryce Young praise all over the
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  Speaker 5: place from the national media. We can't get enough of it.
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  Speaker 5: And we do want to talk about this division race
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  Speaker 5: and how is your confidence about defending the South after
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  Speaker 5: two weeks? One week that we give up 59 points.
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  Speaker 5: The next week, albeit against a stinky Falcons team, way better.
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  Speaker 5: But before we get to that, we're getting so many
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  Speaker 5: texts still about Jonathan Brooks, Boney. We do need to
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  Speaker 5: update that situation. And it sucks for him, man, but
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  Speaker 5: it is leading to people with a lot of opinions
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  Speaker 5: about him. You know, how much patience you have with
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  Speaker 5: him moving forward. According to Ian Rappaport, and I haven't
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  Speaker 5: seen anybody else chime in with any extra info. I'll
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  Speaker 5: try to look, Bone. I don't know if you've seen
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  Speaker 5: anybody else jump in. According to Ian Rappaport, Jonathan Brooks
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  Speaker 5: expected to have surgery to repair a core muscle injury
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  Speaker 5: that will land him on injured reserve. He's out at
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  Speaker 5: least six weeks, but should return with plenty of time
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  Speaker 5: to contribute down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: I see that Schefter thing. Schefter quote-tweeted the Aaron Wilson
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  Speaker 2: thing about Austin Eckler and said a potential replacement for
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. Okay, there you go. Yeah, we've got an
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  Speaker 2: Eckler workout coming. Yeah, that was 15 minutes ago, but
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  Speaker 2: it all ties together. We've got an Eckler workout.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see what some of the local guys chime in
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  Speaker 5: here with info, and we'll kind of keep you up
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  Speaker 5: to date if people are saying anything different. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if that affects– like, does that affect how
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  Speaker 5: you feel? Like, we're getting ready to do this conversation about–
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  Speaker 5: How do you all feel about our chances to defend
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  Speaker 5: the South? We're tied for first at one and one,
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  Speaker 5: the Bucks and the Falcons with donuts in their win column.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just ask you first, does this Jonathan Brooks news,
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  Speaker 5: does it make you kind of feel like, oh crap,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like this makes us worse
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  Speaker 5: of a team. This hurts our ability to defend our title.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? I would say no,
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  Speaker 2: not right now because of the way the passing game
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  Speaker 2: is going and the way Chuba's running. It sucks for Brooks.
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  Speaker 2: I want him a part of this thing. They traded
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  Speaker 2: up for him. I hate the fact that it's so stop.
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  Speaker 2: It's so he can't get it going. Every time he does,
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  Speaker 2: it stops. And I feel for the young man. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's loved by those guys in the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just not happening right now. for his body,
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  Speaker 2: and it's another six weeks. Then he's got to rehab.
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  Speaker 2: That's also an injury, Mac, that sports hernia, that core injury.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much you can really do running
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  Speaker 2: back-wise to work out in that six weeks. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like a broken thumb or something where you can still
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  Speaker 2: do your... your running back work, that seems like it's
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  Speaker 2: got to be just like one of those injuries where
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  Speaker 2: you just got to kind of wait it out and
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  Speaker 2: see where you're at, just based off of my knowledge
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  Speaker 2: of the injury, you know, basic knowledge. But I'll say this, Mac,
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  Speaker 2: the running game is important. But if Air Bryce is
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  Speaker 2: going to do what he's doing, then they can get
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  Speaker 2: by without Brooks for six weeks. I was thinking that
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  Speaker 2: Brooks would be a major factor because I thought Bryce
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  Speaker 2: might be similar to recent years where they're going to
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  Speaker 2: really rely on everything around him. But right now, if
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  Speaker 2: Bryce is making that leap, well, then I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if that means that Brooks was going to be. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't playing a big role previously. Week one, he had
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  Speaker 2: the catch. Yeah, outside of that. But I think Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Young going up a level takes the importance of Brooks
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  Speaker 2: down a notch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, outside of the 48-yard catch. I do think that...
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  Speaker 5: As the season went on, like, we don't really know, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: where it was headed.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? With him.
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  Speaker 5: Like, as far as his ability to get it going
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  Speaker 5: on the ground, it hadn't really happened for him yet.
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  Speaker 5: Chuba had been way more efficient and way more effective.
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  Speaker 5: Although Brooks also, like Chuba, had a bunch this week.
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  Speaker 5: Week one, Brooks had a really nice run. He bounced
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  Speaker 5: out left side for 10-plus yards.
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  Speaker 2: Penalty. It's called back. Got to stop that crap O-line
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  Speaker 2: and tremble. I got to stop that.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as Brooks goes to your point, I
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  Speaker 5: don't think, yeah, we're putting up 30 plus and he
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  Speaker 5: hasn't been heavily involved in it. So I think that's
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  Speaker 5: kind of a good way to think about it. It
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  Speaker 5: does suck because I really wanted to get him involved
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  Speaker 5: in the passing game. I really wanted to see him.
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  Speaker 5: getting it out in space and making people look silly.
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  Speaker 5: I think the long-term picture of him is like, depending
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  Speaker 5: on what he does after this injury, after this surgery.
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  Speaker 5: And when he comes back, like, how are we going
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  Speaker 5: to feel about him long-term after the season? But I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if I feel like, like this doesn't make
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  Speaker 5: me want to change my opinion for what I'm getting
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  Speaker 5: ready to say about us battling the saints for the division.
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  Speaker 2: Can AJ Dylan be as effective in his role as
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  Speaker 2: Brooks was going to be in his role?
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  Speaker 5: I think that's another factor. Could he run it better? Like,
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  Speaker 5: could we, no nonsense, like, no nonsense, put your head down,
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  Speaker 5: you see the hole, hit it. Like, could he be
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  Speaker 5: a more efficient runner right now than Brooks? I think so.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he just won't be as dynamic. He's got
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  Speaker 5: good hands, but he's just not going to be shaking
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  Speaker 5: bakey on the outside.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to do the old, he's going to make those,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to run the ball, Mac, like the football
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  Speaker 2: noises that you make. Can you give us those noises
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  Speaker 2: that you make?
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  Speaker 1: Poof, poof, poof, poof.
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  Speaker 2: Mac's like a toy. You press a button and he
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  Speaker 2: does what you want him to do. I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know if that was football in the way. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I was doing there at the end. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people asking about A.J. Dillon. Don't we
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  Speaker 2: keep talking about A.J.
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  Speaker 6: Dillon?
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  Speaker 5: It's very weird. It's almost like, are y'all's radios censoring A.J.
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  Speaker 5: Dillon's name out? Because we keep getting questions. Maybe you're
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  Speaker 5: sending him like right before you hear his name. He
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  Speaker 5: is the backup running back. But as we've been talking
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  Speaker 5: about over and over again, reports out there say Austin
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  Speaker 5: Eckler's getting a workout.
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  Speaker 2: With the Panthers.
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  Speaker 5: And you do wonder if he could be brought in
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  Speaker 5: to be the third back. In the meantime, we got
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  Speaker 5: Trey Tyus. We got, I keep forgetting my man, Imani
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  Speaker 5: Marshall on the practice squad as well.
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  Speaker 2: Mag, I also wonder too, AJ Dillon's role, if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be leading football games late, work with me here, folks.
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  Speaker 2: If the Panthers are leading games late, can he go
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  Speaker 2: into a closer mode? Because who really wants to tackle
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  Speaker 2: in the late games, A.J. Dillon, when it's fourth down
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  Speaker 2: and you're getting tired? Who wants to see him coming
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  Speaker 2: at you late in the football games? So I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if A.J. Dillon, as the games go along... his role
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  Speaker 2: might increase even more because I don't know who wants
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  Speaker 2: that guy coming at you in the fourth quarter. You're right.
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  Speaker 5: Different sort of back, but our running game has been
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  Speaker 5: in large part because of the penalties.
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  Speaker 2: That's how Pittsburgh used Jerome Bettis at the end of
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  Speaker 2: his career. It was a lot of wear out the defense,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of short yardage stuff. I wonder if that's
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  Speaker 2: something maybe for A.J. Dillon to do.
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  Speaker 5: Is Bebop suggesting Haynes King play running back? Is that
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: what's going on in my text line? Bebop's having a
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  Speaker 5: rough week, man. He doesn't know what to do. He
• 9:49
  Speaker 5: wants Kenny Pickett to play to increase trade value.
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  Speaker 2: He wants Gaines King lining up back there running back.
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  Speaker 2: Bebop's confused because this whole Bryce Gunn shtick is now
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  Speaker 2: ruined for him.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to actually send other texts. All right, so
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  Speaker 5: real quick, I mean, I guess because this is breaking news,
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  Speaker 5: we're kind of reacting, right? Y'all are reacting to the
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  Speaker 5: Brooks stuff. I do want to have at least a
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  Speaker 5: couple of minutes just to kind of talk about the
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  Speaker 5: division race. We're two weeks in, so... It's, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how big of the conclusions we can draw.
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  Speaker 5: I'll just say this, Bone. I thought we were winning
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  Speaker 5: the division coming into the season. I still think we
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  Speaker 5: are winning the division. But as many texters are saying,
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: the Saints have my attention. I was hoping that the
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  Speaker 5: hype they were getting, that they weren't quite ready to
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  Speaker 5: push for the division just yet. I certainly respect Shuck
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: and like Shuck. I was also hoping, Bone, that maybe
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  Speaker 5: The tape that was out there on them would have
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  Speaker 5: some defenses shutting him down. He's the only quarterback with
• 10:44
  Speaker 5: more passing yards than Bryce. Like, he's been really good.
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  Speaker 5: Him and Olave have had some going on.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And they'll get Tyson back at some point.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, Bone?
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  Speaker 5: Like, is it– this dude says, I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: we're winning it, but it's either going to be the
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  Speaker 5: Panthers or Saints.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, what are your thoughts just real early about the
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  Speaker 5: division race?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Panthers and Saints.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Bucs, I don't know what's going on there. We
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  Speaker 2: thought they might be a mess, but I thought they
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  Speaker 2: would get off to a better start and beat the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: I'm surprised that didn't happen. Not the Bengals, but the Browns.
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  Speaker 2: They also played Minnesota this week, which has been a
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  Speaker 2: really surprise team early to be 2-0. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if the Bucs, Mag, are just– I don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: going on there. Todd Bowles, we said he's got to
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  Speaker 2: get off to a good start to solidify his role
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  Speaker 2: as head coach. It doesn't feel like that is trending
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  Speaker 2: in the right direction. I think right now it is.
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  Speaker 2: the Saints, and the Panthers for the NFC South. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Saints are a team to be respected. No disrespect
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  Speaker 2: to the Falcons. Maybe you were overlooking them.
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  Speaker 5: The Saints did lose Kelvin Banks, one of their starting
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  Speaker 5: tackles for a while here. So he's got to have
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  Speaker 5: surgery on an ankle injury. So that is something notable
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  Speaker 5: for them that they're dealing with. I want to see
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  Speaker 5: how that affects their offense because they've been very offense-oriented, Bone, right?
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  Speaker 5: Although I thought the defense did a pretty good job
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  Speaker 5: against the Ravens after they got down early. They've been
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  Speaker 5: slow starters, but man, they have finished strong. You want
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  Speaker 5: to hear something crazy about the Saints? As of this week,
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  Speaker 5: they do not have one true road game actually in
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: a opposing team's venue until November 22nd. Because they have
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: a game in Pittsburgh that's international.
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  Speaker 2: But listen to this. Vegas at home. Falcons at home.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the Giants are in there. Excuse me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they only have, yeah, only the Giants. The Raiders at home.
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  Speaker 2: Falcons at home. Vikings at home. Giants on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at home. Or excuse me, Pittsburgh international. Bi-week. Cleveland
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  Speaker 2: and the Panthers all at home. They have one road game,
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  Speaker 2: an international game, until November 22nd.
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  Speaker 5: Bro, there's a lot of wins there. A lot of
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  Speaker 5: winnable games, I should say. A lot of games that...
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of games in the Dome, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: And look at the opponents that they're playing in this
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  Speaker 2: next stretch. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Are we going to be chasing them a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I wonder.
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  Speaker 5: Not necessarily after this week, but when we get to
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  Speaker 5: that post-buy stretch, that schedule, you reading off that schedule
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  Speaker 5: made me respect the Saints even more.
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  Speaker 2: Because they started with two straight road games to start
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  Speaker 2: the year, so they've got a bunch at home coming up.
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  Speaker 5: This 704 number says, Saints have a win over the Ravens.
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  Speaker 5: Are we going to do that? You've got to look
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  Speaker 5: at the games that they win. uh, when it comes
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  Speaker 5: to common opponents.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of like holding serve, right? We're going to
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  Speaker 5: play the Ravens. You play the Ravens. We already lost
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: to the bears. Now they lost to the lions. We
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: got a chance to get one on them there, but
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  Speaker 5: all but two opponents are the same. So yeah, that
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  Speaker 5: is one way to look at it. Another texter. I
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  Speaker 5: think you guys are writing off Baker Mayfield and the
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  Speaker 5: bucks way too early.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I don't know if I'd write them off.
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  Speaker 5: But Baker Mayfield is He does not look good to
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: start the season, and he's healthy. This is supposed to
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: be the part of the season, Bo, where he looks good.
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  Speaker 5: How much is not having Mike Evans affecting him and
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  Speaker 5: affecting them? I wonder about that. And their pass rush
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  Speaker 5: is still 27th in the league in sack percentage. Reuben
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: Bain is not off to a flying start. He is
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  Speaker 5: not looking like an immediate fix to the pass rush.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the Buccaneers' next three games, Mac. Minnesota at home.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Green Bay at home. Matt Dallas. Everyone's losable. They can
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  Speaker 2: win them, but everyone's losable. They could be 0-5, 1-4.
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  Speaker 2: Now they have some games along the way that are winnable,
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  Speaker 2: but 1-4 start, give them one.
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  Speaker 6: 1-4 maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Possibly 0-5, I don't know. That would be nice. And
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  Speaker 2: if they go 1-4, 0-5, think about it, Todd Bowles.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because imagine it got a little ugly in the
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: locker room and with Bowles in the play. Imagine what
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: it's going to get like then. Gridiron stats and info, Bone,
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: which is a site, believe it or not, Bone, for
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: stats and info about football, believe it or not. They
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: do the playoff percentage thing or division title percentage thing, too.
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  Speaker 5: Saints with a 43% chance to win the South, according
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  Speaker 5: to them. Panthers at 26%. They still have the Bucs
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  Speaker 5: at 22%. And then Atlanta at 7%. I don't know
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: about you, that's 7% too high.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously. They might be on seven quarterbacks. By the way,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: give RG3 a call. He's looking for you.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: So is that true? He was like saying I could
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: do better than these guys? Both Cam and RG3. Both
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: Cam and RG3. We're a Johnny Menzel away, Matt, from
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: hitting the bingo here. I have to tell you, usually
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: I roll my eyes when the veterans are like, I
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: can get in there and do this. After watching Russian Strand,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: they might not be lying, Cam and RG3.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, we come back. We're going to go down
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: to Georgia. We're going to talk college football, Matt. Chuck
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Oliver is a longtime radio host down there, but he
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: also hosts a nationally syndicated daily college football show, The
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Chuck Oliver Show. We're going to talk to Chuck next
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: about Southern College football on Sports Radio 92.7 WFN.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: We have not really mentioned Bone.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: The good news for the Panthers injury-wise, and I don't
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: want to jinx it, we'll see what he does today
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: at practice on a work Wednesday. But it does sound
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: pretty optimistic. Canal sounds pretty optimistic about Pat Jones being
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: back on the defense side of the ball. But the
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Robert Brooks, Robert Brooks, Jonathan Brooks. Hey, where did Robert
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Brooks come from?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Panthers today lost former Green Bay Packer
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: wideout Robert Brooks. Where did that come from, Mac? You doofus.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: You had Corey Dillon earlier today. Now you've got Robert Brooks.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I'm putting together an all-star team from the past to
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: put them on the Panthers. Anyway, Jonathan Brooks, Ian Rappaport,
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: IR report with surgery on a core muscle injury is
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: not ideal. But Pat Jones seems like he could be
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: coming back. Let's move on. Let's let somebody else talk here, Bone.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Probably the best for everyone involved.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: And assume he will not make mistakes like I have today.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: He is Chuck Oliver. He is the host of the
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: aptly named Chuck Oliver Show, 71 radio stations in nine states.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: It's college football talk, and it's a lot of good
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Southern college football talk. And Chuck Oliver joins us here
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: to talk college football. Hey, Chuck, what's going on, man?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: How you doing?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to talk college football with y'all. I
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: got a note from my producer that said, Hey, there's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: a station in Charlotte.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, really?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: After Sunday's game, really? But he said, no, no, no, no.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: It's college. I was like, I'm down with them.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I said that Falcons, right? I want to know
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that I said that requested before what happened on Sunday.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: That was a, yes. Oh, that's true.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I didn't even think of harassing you about your Falcons.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: We're above that, Chuck. We're above that here.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Because here in the Carolinas, we've got some football issues
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: on our hands with various teams. I want to ask
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: you what you think about Clemson. They came to life.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: It took a while, but they came to life against
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the Tar Heels. Tate Reynolds seems talented, but he's young. Heck,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: I thought the O-line actually played decent for a change
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: against Carolina. Is there a chance for Clemson to salvage
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: something out of this year, or do you think this
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: one's going to end up looking ugly when it's done?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I think there's a chance Clemson's bad, and I don't
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: mean bad versus the great decade and a half they
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: just had, or even bad versus last year when they
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: were average. I mean, there's a chance Clemson is really bad.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: They have a few NFL guys who got the defensive
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: two deep. their offensive line is in big trouble. They
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback who's ready to play right now.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I bet you, if you're not a Clemson fan or
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a Cal fan, I don't think anybody listens to the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Cal fan. If you're not a Clemson fan and you're
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: watching this game Friday night, you think about that. You
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: say you busted your tail all week. You probably had
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: to go to your kid's high school game Friday, Saturday
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and Sunday is already committed by things that are not
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: from you. Friday night, if you stay up and watch
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: this game, it literally is for one reason. You're watching
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to see what happens when Dabo loses.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: That's all you're after.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You want to see Dabo on the sidelines, every play
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that goes wrong. Like we're looking for the horns out.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Or is it humble dabbo? Literally, that's the only reason
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: anyone's watching this game Friday night.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Chuck, I'm laughing as a Gamecock fan, but I probably
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be because the other day was highly disappointing what
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: happened in the second half against Mississippi State. Do you
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: see a path here where the Gamecocks can sort of
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: have a year like they did two years ago, which
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: may help save Beamer? Or do you think this is
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: going to end up turning in the wrong direction for
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Beamer and the Gamecocks here in 2026?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Speaker 2, um, I think Clemson was, you know, there's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a big, big history there of Tommy Bowden, for instance,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: coaching his way into employment in October or December, because
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: even like it was like three years in a row,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to fire you Tommy. And then when you
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: beat Bobby Bowden, whoever, and South Carolina to close the season,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the Clemson coach ain't getting fired at that point. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: so that's why they whacked him that night and what
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a wake forest. They were like, yeah, we're not going
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to give you a chance this time. My understanding of
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Shane's done and some of it is projection because you're
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: looking at the schedule now and it hasn't really gotten
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: difficult yet. And now it's after three games and God
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: bless in the first two weeks. Cause running it up
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: on people. I was like, every blowout is not created
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: equal for a South Carolina fan, for a player, for
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a coach. They needed some blowouts for C with proof
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of concept. And then what happened this past week, but
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: even when they were up 16, nothing, if you were
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: watching that game, they had not played particularly well when
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: they were up 16 to nothing. So, They had a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: pick on the first play of the game for Mississippi
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: State and went 16 yards. They had a touchdown called back.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: It was all kinds of issues. So I think Shane's done,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and it hasn't even got tough yet.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: We're talking with Chuck Oliver, host of the Chuck Oliver Show,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: talking college football.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That is what he does.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Chuck, so I saw on the Chuck Oliver Show Twitter page,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: I saw a clip of you talking about your thoughts about, hey,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I think Ole Miss, you know, maybe they should be
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: the number one team in the country after what they
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: did to LSU. Well, you know in this league, in
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: the SEC, there ain't no rest for you. They got
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: to go down to the swamp where they are cranked
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: up for a change about a team that with a
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: legit offense for a change, and Florida's favored in Vegas. Like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: what do you think? Talk about Ole Miss and their
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: start of the season. It's been great.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: But this game against Florida is no joke, man.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ole Miss is the better team, and they could
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: lose by 14 Saturday. There's teeth in Gainesville again. And,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, an offense that is just incendiary. When they
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: get Eric Singleton back, understand, I think he's the fastest
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: player in college football, and he's probably going to be
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: their fourth receiver in the passing game. I'm not even
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: including Jaden Ball. Uh, so Florida, their offense is unbelievable.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And then they tackled pretty well against Auburn and they
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: had a confused Auburn quarterback. And so it kind of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: worked for him in a shootout. But like, if y'all
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: watch Florida, Auburn, I did. And Auburn was right there
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on the scoreboard the entire time. There wasn't one minute
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of the game. I thought that Auburn was the better name,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: literally not one minute. So that is life in the sec.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I think Ole Miss is the best team as far
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: as resume right now. And that could change as late
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: as about, I don't know, when you're going back for
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your second run through, you know, Golden Corral's line. By
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the time you're doing that Saturday night, they could already
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: have lost.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Chuck already knows this very well. He knows my routine here.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: We're talking to Chuck Oliver. He's at King CFB on
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: his Twitter page, at Chuck Oliver Show on his show's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Twitter page. All the links are there for his great content. Chuck,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: it's not hyperbole to say that the way NC State
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: lost on Saturday is one of the worst ways to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: lose a football game we've ever seen. How do you
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: think they respond from that? Do you think that that
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: is something that you don't recover from? Or do you
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: think that could galvanize them a little bit to maybe
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: have a Dave Doran type year where they get to
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that nine win range again?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Are we, are we in the age?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And I don't know this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: I don't think we are.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'm either suspicious or I'm cynical.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Um, are we still in the age where Tim Tebow
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: can give that speech that is so emotional that you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: put it on a plaque and like nail it to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the side of the stadium afterward, we will never lose again.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: We will never try harder than anyone. Like, are we
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in that age right now? Cause I don't think when
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I look at NC state, I really don't see CJ
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Bailey doing that. Um, I, very talented quarterback. Obviously we've
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: seen the blue sky. Was it the Georgia tech game
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: last year? Holy smokes. And that was a big game
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to wake forest last year. Then there's been a pretty
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: low floor, some Saturdays as well. So a wildly talented
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: kid and they had to choose, all right, how are
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: we going to.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Deal with this?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Do we let CJ go and build up the lines
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: or do we bring in a bunch of his buddies
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: from high school and see how that works? Well, they
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: chose choice B and it has not worked so far.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: And CJ, like I said, he's a very skilled kid.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But he's still raw and he's just not finished product
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: at all. And so I don't see this being a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: good thing. This is very unusual for Dave Doran team.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I thought I always knew salty on both lines of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the scrimmage. We're going to bully you, run the ball some.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: That is not the profile of this team.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: No, it's not, man. And to your point about the
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Tebow speech, if C.J. Bailey tries to stand up this
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: week and give that speech, some of his teammates are
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: going to be like, sit down, you dummy. You didn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: even know how to take a safety correctly. Seriously. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: feel for him, man, but that was a bad one
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: for a third-year starting quarterback.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: C.J.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Really dropped the ball, and I mean that. He actually
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: dropped the ball for them. Well played. Well played.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: We're talking with Chuck Oliver, host of The Chuck Oliver Show,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: talking some college football. Chuck, the SEC matchups, you know it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: You talk so much SEC ball. I mean, it's just
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: ridiculous this week, the amount of great matchups, intriguing matchups
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: in the SEC. What do you think about a game
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: like Texas and Tennessee? Tennessee's biggest test was Georgia Tech,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: and after a little bit of a slow start, they
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: rolled them. But I still question, against a roster as talented,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: even at home, against a roster as talented as Texas,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: is the freshman quarterback, Faison Brandon, up for this?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that game?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Paul says he's been fantastic. I've been so impressed with
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: him in the run game to this point as well.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Really good stuff from him as an intentional runner. And
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you don't always get that from a freshman. Most of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the time it's panic. So I really liked that. Here's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the bigger point for me on Saturday. I think Texas,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I think they go on the road, they get it done.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: We've seen Sark do that before he went into Tuscaloosa
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: with Quinn. You were set that stadium on fire, got
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: out of town, did the same thing in Arbor with
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Quinn Ewer.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So he can do it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It absolutely can. I think the big picture here, look
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: at the potential home schedule. If you cherry picked it
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: for Texas in a year in the big 12, because
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: they're all.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Right, Chuck, I thought he might bounce. Oh, there he is.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That their fans would be able to go visit every year.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: This is the reason in an average season in the sec,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you get to make a road trip to Knoxville. You
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: get to go to Athens. You get to have Florida
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: come see you. It is an unbelievable transition. They made
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just having the game. That's why they did this.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Chuck.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Well, we have a lot of teams here in the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Carolinas with a lot of issues that you've gone through.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: What have you thought of the job that Manny Diaz
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: has done? His first two years into this year, now
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: they have a guy that I know Nate Shepard's not
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: going to win the Heisman, but he's putting up ridiculous numbers.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: What's your overall thoughts on Manny Diaz and what he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: done for this Duke program?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm probably not the best person to ask. Cause
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm a big, big, big Manny DS man, strong beer game,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: even like everything about Manny. I like his aggressiveness on defense.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I think he got absolutely jobbed on the dairy and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: mints effect. Like I'm a big fan of Manny and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's going back to when he was a DC, like
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Mississippi state time. I always know what it is with him.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: We're going that way. Like here we come quarterback. But
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the organizational skills, everything he's been able to show up
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: there through able, like the worst adversity is the final
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: 30 minutes of the portal. Your potential all American quarterback announces.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And he may rebound from that. I'm a big Manny fan, absolutely.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: He's amazing.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: All right, real quick, I want to ask you about
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: the Georgia Bulldogs. You're right down there in Bulldog country
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: in Atlanta. They have gotten off to a start where
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: they are obliterating everybody, plus 138 in scoring margin. Stockton's
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: numbers are ridiculous. The defense looks salty. But the toughest
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: game they played is this lame Arkansas team. What is
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: this Bulldog team like? How good is this team? And
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: are you starting to think, OK, this could be a
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: team that wins the SEC and actually advances in the playoff?
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: Or do we need to slow down with.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: That a little bit?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I think they've been the most efficient and impressive team
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in America by some stretches. Now, you mentioned the quality
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: of the opponents, and that's sure. If you just look
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: at the totality of that 180 minutes they played, though,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I think they have put together the best 180 of anybody.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: in the sport of college football. And I think it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: been intentional as well. I think it's a little bit
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of kind of teaching to the test. I think a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: lot of coaches have realized, oh, margin of victory. They've
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: been lying to us all along. And so Kirby, who
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: usually is like, I'll, I'll beat you at 31 to
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: three and be a hundred percent happy about it. Not
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: this year, this season has been giddy up. for Kirby
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in that offense. And, again, I think it's been intentional
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: on their part. So that is a refocused, rededicated, aggressive
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Mike Bobo, all of that. You've got to love that
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: from Georgia right now. But I think they have been
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: as efficient as anybody. Awesome.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Chuck, we had a blast talking to you, man. Love it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: You're actually a cool Falcons fan. I didn't know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: If I'd meet one of those in my life, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: you're pretty damn cool, man. We appreciate you coming on.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, they've beaten the anger and frustration out of me.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, trust us. We've been there for the last decade. Oh, man.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: 1998, you know, 1995, Chuck, I'd have thrown down with you.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: You've lost your fight. Oh, man. Now, Chuck, I was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: 11 years old then, so that might have been a problem.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, that could have been an ugly scene for Young Bone.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: All right, Chuck, be good, man. Thanks for coming on.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: All right, peace.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Chuck Oliver of the Chuck Oliver Show heard on 71
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: different stations. It's a lot of good Southern college football talk. Yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: he's based down there in Atlanta. I didn't even think
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: of that. Oh, yeah, he's a Falcons fan. He lives
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: down there in Atlanta. We spared him, though. We spared
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: him much Atlanta talk.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: When I booked him, I realized, oh, no, I was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: actually getting– because he does the college football syndicated show. Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Then I realized, oh, this may go multiple ways here
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: on this. Bone, are you starting to look at Duke–
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And think like we've had a couple. I look at
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: them quite a bit in my spare time.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: We've I would think especially the way your other squads
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: looking right now. But like we had a couple Duke
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: fans when we were doing the whole segment about the
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: teams that are struggling to Carolinas. Who's going to can
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: any of them turn it around? And there were a
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: couple Duke fans like, hold on now. We're off to
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: a good start. Talk about us. Duke is not being
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: talked about probably enough, and maybe we're included in that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: That defense has jumped right back to what you expect
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: from a normal Manny Diaz defense after that blip last year.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: And you said it, Shepard's flat out one of the
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: best players in football. And the thing about Eget Bone,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: he's looked the part the last two weeks. First week,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I was very worried about him. He's looked the part
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: the last two weeks. They don't need him to go nuts.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Just don't make a lot of mistakes and handle stuff.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Get the ball to Shepard and Jeremiah Halsley and move
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: out of the way. Halsley, excuse me, Jeremiah Halsley. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: always say Halsley. Jeremiah Halsley, move out of the way. Matt,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: the next set of games, William & Mary.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: At Georgia Tech, who is not what they were recently.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: The Heels at home. Then it's Virginia, which obviously is tough.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And then it's BC. And at NC State, they've actually
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: owned them under Manny Diaz. So we'll see what that
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: game looks like there. And then at the end, it's Miami, Clemson, Wake.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: But the next handful of games... It looks like to me, Mac,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: that for the third year in a row, Manny Diaz
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: at least has a chance now to exceed expectations, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he could get nine wins three years in a row.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at that. I think there can be nine
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: wins there. The way they play defense and run the ball.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: The first year we said, wow, Manny Diaz got them
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to nine wins. Second year, oh, my God, he did
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it again. He might do that three years in a row.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Manny Diaz has become one of the best coaches in
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the country. And if he wins nine games again, does
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: he survive? I survive it, dude. That's not the way
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I put it. Does he stay at Duke or is
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: it inevitable he got to lose them? He'll be in
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: the SEC or the Big Ten. Dude, the lowest budget.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Is it the lowest?
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I think it's like there's one or two schools below
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: them in that athletic report about the NIL and revenue
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: share budget. They are that low and they are this competitive, man.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: That's coaching. I have a question here, objectively.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I don't want him to leave, but why wouldn't the
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Gamecocks call for Manny Diaz? Bone's trying to transfer him.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking. He said SEC.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Well, that job might be open. This is like Jim
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Halpert transferring to the Ithaca branch. Bone's trying to transfer
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: him to his Columbia branch. Did he mention SEC? That
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: job could be open. It's a legit question.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: You're like, if I'm going to lose him, how about
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: we get to his great coaching on the other team?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I see what you're saying, man.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: Would you rather lose him to out-of-conference? Or does Florida
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: State go after him real hard?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: He went to Florida State, didn't he?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: So.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Now, why do you think Norvell's in trouble?
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Problem is, they've come up with 51 mil down there
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: with Norvell, though.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And he might actually look at it as I can
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: exceed expectations at South Carolina more than Florida State. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: can do similar work with South Carolina and get them
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: above what people think. Florida State, their expectation is going
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: But the thing is, though, you win nine games in
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the ACC on the regular at Duke. What can you
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: do at Tallahassee? Like, you don't have to play SEC
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: opponents at Tallahassee.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I know, but there's also a different level down there
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of pressure than I think there would be at South Carolina.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Just because of what that history is at Florida State.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, y'all are putting some pressure
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: on Shano right now. He also may say, you know what?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I got fired out of Miami. I don't want to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: go to Florida where the income tax, state tax is
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: free and all that nonsense. He might go there. When
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: we come back here on the Mac and Bone radio program,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Random Crap, we have another story on Sean Payton being
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a jerk. If the Browns route the Panthers, a Cleveland
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: fan gets paid. You're going to hear this ridiculous thing.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk random crap.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Random crap. Random crap. Mac and Bone talk random crap. Random...
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Random crap. Random crap. Random crap.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: What the deuce?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, crap.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, crap.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: They talk about crap that is random.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: It's the Queen City's favorite morning tandem.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Mac and Bone. Random crap. Mac and Bone. All right,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: let's do it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Let's do some fun stuff here in Random Crap, including
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald telling you about the latest jerk.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Move by Sean Payton. You've got to hear this.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: But before we get to that, Random Crap Bone, we've
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: got a current Random Crap situation on the text line.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: There is someone that clearly is texting a different show,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I think WBT, but he is saying we are less
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: informed than him and he is a schmuck construction worker.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: And then he says, you're mistaken. There is pool audio. Jack,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: how do you say this guy's name?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Probiotic. Somebody named Jack Probiotic has something, something, something. He
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: told us to be better reporters.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: And then we all mocked him. What are you talking about, sir?
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: This is a Wendy's, all that sort of stuff.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: You got the wrong show.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: And then he doubles down. Your on-air personalities are mistaken.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: There is White House pool audio available. If we're talking
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: on the radio about White House pool audio, I'm telling you, Bone,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: take me out back and hit me with a Louisville slugger.
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Because that political climate, the last thing I want to
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: be doing is discussing politics on the dang radio.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: He's now figured out that he may have the wrong station. Okay,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: there you go. Thought this was a WBT text line.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Bone came on.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Bone's like Travis Gibson with the flying elbow. Bone gets
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: one more shot in.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Be better. Well, no, no. I was joking because he
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: told us to be better when it started.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That was a callback to the initial thing. Okay, I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: got you. I got you. He sorted it out now.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Let's move to Sean Payton being a jerk or alleged
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: to be a jerk. This is Mike McDonald talking Seattle
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Seahawks coach on the Graham Bensinger show. And he is
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: talking about Sean Payton's name comes up and he says
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: to Graham, oh, he doesn't like me. And then Graham,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: of course, wants to hear the story. This goes back
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: to bone. Mike McDonald's first game as an NFL head
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: coach a couple of years back was against Sean Payton
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: and the Broncos.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And listen to this whole thing.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: So our first year, and so we played in our
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: first game. Uh-huh. And so, like, you know, I'm like, well,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: you know, whatever. So fans watch. They, you know, fans will, like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: tape or, like, post plays from training camp on Twitter.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: And so it's, like, public.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: So we took, like, 100 plays from their training camp.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Good for you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: We're, like, scouting them, you know. And, like, anyways, he
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: got wind of it. And he, like, lost them. It was, like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: middle of the season. And, like, we won the game.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: And we were in the fight, like, our first year.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: We were trying to. A lot of shit going on.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: And so he called John. He basically, like, threatened to
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: come out publicly and do it like a whole patriot, like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: spy gate type of thing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there like, oh, my God. I'm like,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: we didn't cheat. Like, you know, we thought it was
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: a Michigan thing where we had a plant and the
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: whole thing. And we're like, so we had to, like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: counter with him to say, like, hey, look, if you
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: come out of this, like, we're going to sue you
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: because it's not true, you know?
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: And did you ever talk to him? So he, like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: he backed down, but he was, like, killing John, our GM.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: And John was telling me like, dude, did you?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, no.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Like, what are you crazy?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: That's not how we do business, you know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton accused them of cheating because they took, which
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: is pretty smart, by the way, fan. This is one
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: of the benefits of not having fans in attendance is
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: fan videos that are posted are fair game, right?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: And they use that to help prepare for Sean Payton's
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Broncos in week one a couple years back.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I got my book here, Sean Payton for Dummies, and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out where does this rank in
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: his all-time moments here. Oh, smugly do right. Never fails,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: does he? Unbelievable.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Although I will say this bone, we have high rise,
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: high rise, high rise apartments and condos where people will
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: share videos of Panthers practice from.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: They do. Even though there's not fans there. But apparently
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: the Falcons never saw that video.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: If they did, how much video would it take to help?
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Could you hand Cooper Rush and Jack Strand the Panthers
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: playbook on Saturday morning and still kick their ass?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You know what? I think you could. You know what
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: would be next level chest smack, though, because it's such
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a faraway view? What if you did a fake practice
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: out there and just put out random people? and put
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it on the internet and the other team was like
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: look at this we got the video here but it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: just like it's jake the loam out there throwing passes
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: it's all like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: The old guys uh bone what do you think about
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: this promotion that the browns are doing this week um
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: you can't make this up a team called the browns
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: has teamed up with dude wipes you literally that can't
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: be a coincidence can it um they do. They're giving
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: away $ 50, 000 to a fan. If the Browns win by
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: 22 on Sunday against the Panthers, both.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: What is there a significance of 22? Why 22? That's
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a very specific number. Did I miss something there on that?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They're feeling 22 like Taylor Swift, I guess.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: But what would you say the likelihood, Bone, that we
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: get three score galore by 22 points?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not even thinking that.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: You talk about a contest, Bone, where no one has
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: any chance of winning. Now, I don't know if it
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: extends like for the full season, but even if it is,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: I got a spoiler alert for you, Bone. No one's
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: winning that contest the whole year. If it goes for
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: the whole year. If the Panthers lose by 22 or more,
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I will walk. From Charlotte to the Dude Wipes headquarters.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I will eat a Dude Wipe.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I'll have to look and see where it is. I
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: will eat a Dude Wipe. I will eat a Dude Wipe.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: You can film it if we lose by 22 to
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: the day. You eat that while I'm walking.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: You walk. You walk. Are we locking this in? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Are we talking about the bat here?
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you embark it down. We're not losing. I'm not
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: going to use the verbiage you're trying to give me
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: to use. But, yes, I will eat a dude wipe
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: if we lose by 22.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Come on, y'all. Seriously. I will be walking from Charlotte
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: to Chicago if the Panthers lose by 22 or more.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. Finny, what will you
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: do if we lose the dude wipes challenge?
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: All right, so Bone's going to walk to dude wipes.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Mac is going to eat a dude wipe. I will
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: just simply use a dude wipe.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Wow, you're crazy. I'll actually do it. What do you
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: want me to do? I'll actually do it, man. What
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: if I train rode? What if I train rode during
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: our radio program to Chicago? Oh, there you go. This
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: is changing now. He sees he's got himself in dude.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Walking seems like that might be a little hazardous on
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the highways. I will train ride.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with the distance and how
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: long it would take you to do that and the
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: fact that you would miss umpteen shows.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I'll get a.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: Brazilian wax if we lose by, is it 22?
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Mark it down. Mark it down. Why do we need
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to see that?
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Do not try to get me. I ain't seeing it,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: but you can do it. Do not try to get
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: me to.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Say lock or any of these words.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: You know, these are words that lead down to bad.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: 22 for taking a number two.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: 22 for taking a number two.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: 19,000 people have texted in right now. Number two. Okay.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: They couldn't go two-point loss. They had to go 22.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Two-point win? Yeah. Okay, everybody, we got it. Number two.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: We got it. Stop. Slow down.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: We're a little slow here, Texters. Real quick, because I
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: know we got to get to Willie P, but then again,
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: we shouldn't be in a hurry for that necessarily.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Shout out, Boney, to Craig Myers. Craig Myers, not to
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: be confused with Chris Myers. Craig Myers is the Panther
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: fan that works temporary job down there at the stadium
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta. And, you know, the video
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Sheena and Vashti had video of him celebrating the Panthers
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: win while being a worker in Atlanta Stadium. Apparently, according
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: to Sheena, his job is temporary and he could lose
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: his job. This could be his last weekend of working.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: He's going to find out in the next few days
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: whether he loses his job. Are they just doing this
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: because they found out he's a Panther fan? I guess
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: they're saying it's a temporary job, but is there a
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: lawsuit there? I feel like they are targeting just because
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: his team embarrassed the damn home team.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: He should have a job there as quarterback.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha!
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. When we come back, Willie P,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: it's Willie's World. We'll talk Panthers, FC, and more on
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.