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8/3/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Monday edition of The Huddle, Loading right now. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the five o'clock Club, Welcome to the program, Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a work week, Welcome to August, and welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Trading Deadline. I'm Drew Wilson, broadcasting live from Headquarters, joined
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  Speaker 1: by erstwhile Hunter Baumgart the Fourth who was in for
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  Speaker 1: his final day filling in for Arman who is South Beach,
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  Speaker 1: sorry and in his weekend a wedding and coming back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning plenty.
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  Speaker 1: To talk about. Beginning with those evil Dodgers taking Tark Schooble,
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  Speaker 1: ripping him from the Brewers' clutches, or maybe not. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was Saturday night late we found out that the
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  Speaker 1: deal was done. The Tigers were unloading Schooble to the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: the evil Empire, and lo and behold, the return wasn't
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  Speaker 1: that great? Here we were wondering which of the Brewer's
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  Speaker 1: top prospects they were going to peel off to make
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  Speaker 1: this acquisition, and the Dodgers didn't really give up much
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  Speaker 1: of their.
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  Speaker 2: Coverable No, I think you would have done it if
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  Speaker 2: you would have had that. You know where those prospects
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  Speaker 2: were ranked in the Dodgers system. I think you would
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  Speaker 2: have done it. However, it seems like from the reports,
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers would have had to give up more significant capital.
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  Speaker 2: It seems it seems so Yeah, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. That's the thing. That's the thing. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the Brewers offered, or if the Brewers
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  Speaker 1: even offered. Did the Tigers even take a call from
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  Speaker 1: Matt Arnold? Right, you'd hope it seemed like it. It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like it was at least somewhat realistic considered. How
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  Speaker 1: the way Pat Murphy talked about it, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: even Christian Yelich talked a little bit about it, not
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  Speaker 1: specifically Schooble, but it kind of seemed like, well Murph
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  Speaker 1: talked specifically about it, you know, hoping that he's hoping
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  Speaker 1: that that might be the case that they were able
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  Speaker 1: to acquire him.
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  Speaker 2: But not so much. It doesn't happen, and the Dodgers again,
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  Speaker 2: and it just just adds some fuel to the fire
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  Speaker 2: for the anger amongst baseball fans.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. So now you got to believe Bo Naylor
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  Speaker 1: and Cody are not the only moves the Brewers are
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  Speaker 1: gonna make. I gotta think triple A pitcher and catcher
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  Speaker 1: would be shocked, so I would be two. But we
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  Speaker 1: haven until five o'clock today to parse what's gonna happen,
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  Speaker 1: and there are names falling off the board already. The
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  Speaker 1: Cubs acquired Kevin Gosman, veteran thirty five year old like
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  Speaker 1: not as good as he was, but still pretty solid,
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys that okay, you know, like I
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying you you use this trade deadline and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's you know, thinking about October. You got two months
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  Speaker 1: left to cover innings. Man, the dog days are here
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  Speaker 1: and you need guys now. I think the Breuers need
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  Speaker 1: help now. And then the the Rays went and got
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  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta for the Union in Milwaukee for less than
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  Speaker 1: a striking return as well. So underwhelmed by the returns
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  Speaker 1: so far, like you know, the for a seller's market,
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  Speaker 1: But Brewers aren't done yet. We don't know what's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. Maybe there's a Casey miz in their future,
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  Speaker 1: which would be a great pickup boom to go to
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  Speaker 1: town with Casey.
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  Speaker 2: Mice him or Robbie Ray. And I think this is
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  Speaker 2: a successful trade deadline.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, And you know, maybe there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: relievers out there that people are Luke Weaver's at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the list, So if you get him, like
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  Speaker 1: I guess, a reliever would be better than nothing. But
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  Speaker 1: not landing a starter in this market, and given you
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  Speaker 1: know what the Brewers are facing, would be somewhat surprising.
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  Speaker 2: It would. There have been so many reports saying that
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  Speaker 2: they are active and interested in the starting pitching market,
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  Speaker 2: and with what seems like to be more than a
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  Speaker 2: few available, it would be surprising if they come out
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  Speaker 2: of it without one considering how much Pat Murphy and
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers have talked about their young starting pitching and
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  Speaker 2: how much they're going to have to, you know, make
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  Speaker 2: sure that these guys are healthy come October, and that
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  Speaker 2: means they need innings to be eaten, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: so you want to bring in a guy who has experience,
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  Speaker 2: and all of these guys even you know, Foster Griffin
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  Speaker 2: is another guy from Washington. I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to trade him or not, but I think Robbie
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  Speaker 2: Ray of San Francisco is realistic. I think Casey Mace
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  Speaker 2: of Detroit is as well. The interesting about it Detroit
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  Speaker 2: is now they've won a couple of games. Now they're
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  Speaker 2: just a couple of games out of a playoff spot.
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  Speaker 2: And do they consider keeping Casey Mize? You know they
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  Speaker 2: trade Schoolble because you almost feel like you had to
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  Speaker 2: when they go to Ben malpractice for them not to.
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  Speaker 2: But now Myz obviously isn't going to net you the
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  Speaker 2: return that Schooble did. So you look at that and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we keep him and see what we can do
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  Speaker 2: because the AL is so weak this year. Maybe we
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  Speaker 2: are hot and do what we did a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years ago and get into the postseason, or do what
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  Speaker 2: the Guardians did to them last year and get into
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  Speaker 2: the postseason after being you know, double digit games back.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't you know Casey myes, that'll be a
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  Speaker 2: decision that Tigers have to make. I would think that
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  Speaker 2: he will get dealt Otherwise, Robbie Ray's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: guy now that I have my eye on when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the starters that are still available.
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  Speaker 1: So the reigning back to back World Series champs get
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  Speaker 1: the reigning back to back Cy Young winner from the
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  Speaker 1: American League, shocker, And they didn't give up their top
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  Speaker 1: three prospects, any of their top three PCs.
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  Speaker 2: No, how does that? How how did we get here?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Again, like the Dodgers are the evil empire, but
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  Speaker 1: like the idea that MLB has to change the rules
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  Speaker 1: because the Dodgers are successful. Yeah, they're going for their
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  Speaker 1: third straight World Series title, which is shocking because of
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  Speaker 1: the we had. We we went twenty five years without
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  Speaker 1: a team repeating in League Baseball and the Dodgers, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're going for three in a row in four and
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  Speaker 1: seven years. Basically a dynasty, right, I would think so.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny how in other sports and the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: dynasty great when we saw Cleveland play Golden State in
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  Speaker 1: the finals, like what four or five years in a
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  Speaker 1: row was awesome? Dynasties in baseball they you gotta tear
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  Speaker 1: a townies. And yet the conundrum is that since two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: baseball has had more teams win the ultimate prize, the
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  Speaker 1: World Series, than in any other sport. The diversity of
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  Speaker 1: champions is higher in Baseball than in all the capped sports,
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  Speaker 1: which again, like there's a disconnect there, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: that's what the union is going to point to. And
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  Speaker 1: the Union's gonna say, why are you penalizing the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: for doing a good job. They have the best farm
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  Speaker 1: system and all the best TV deal, a great stadium,
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  Speaker 1: a great tradition, like you know, a good manager, a
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  Speaker 1: good operation, the fact that they can go buy anybody
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  Speaker 1: like the Yankees and Mets can go buy anybody they want,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not producing the pipeline of talent. You know
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  Speaker 1: internally that the Dodgers are right. So now suddenly the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox were an interesting case because they started the
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  Speaker 1: season just on full stay easy to turn around. They
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  Speaker 1: and now what are they? Twenty three and three?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're nine games over five hundred right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's insane. So baseball is in a weird place.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to get weirder in December, but we have
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  Speaker 1: right now t minus under twelve hours of weirdness. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Brewers are likely going to make a.
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  Speaker 2: Move, I would think so. I would be surprised if
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  Speaker 2: they don't get a picture of some sort. Maybe it
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  Speaker 2: is a bat, considering they got shut out again yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: three shutouts since the All Star break, which is not great.
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  Speaker 2: But the market for a bat just doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: be as robust and as realistic as maybe a starting
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  Speaker 2: pitcher or a bullpen arm. And that's what the reports
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  Speaker 2: have said, is that the Brewers are more active when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the pitching side of things, which makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: But the whole state of baseball, you know, yes, they
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  Speaker 2: have had a lot of different champions and that the
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  Speaker 2: parody has been there. But really it seems to me
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  Speaker 2: that over the last five years or so, they are
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  Speaker 2: it is trending in and not so great. Like I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that is going to continue. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is going to be it's it seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: look at how good the Yankees are every single year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they may not get to the World Series, but they
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  Speaker 2: are bringing in a you know, they are being competitive. Look,
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  Speaker 2: they give up four prospects for Luis Garcia yesterday. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the types of things that those big markets can do.
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to win the World Series every year?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: Are there other teams that get hot and win it? Sure,
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  Speaker 2: But overall, I do think that we are trending in
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  Speaker 2: a direction where the big markets are having more and
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  Speaker 2: more of an advantage. And maybe that's because of the
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  Speaker 2: influx of money simply in the sport, and now the
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  Speaker 2: discrepancy is getting wider and wider. And the argument that
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  Speaker 2: people are making that, oh the you know, I saw
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  Speaker 2: Dave Roberts. You know, any team could have done what
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  Speaker 2: we did well. Sure, but they also could school. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you're also in the next three years are going
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  Speaker 2: to be quite different for that or even the next
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  Speaker 2: five years could be quite different for that smaller market
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  Speaker 2: team than you because you can go and spend a
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  Speaker 2: money on a big free agent like a school bawl
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  Speaker 2: and keep them for the next four years. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: Burgers would have them for three. Well, and that's true.
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  Speaker 1: But then the counter to that is, all right, there's
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  Speaker 1: six divisions and one third of them are led by
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  Speaker 1: small market Tampa and Milwaukee. Sure, so they're doing a
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  Speaker 1: good job. And in the capped sports because they use
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  Speaker 1: their prospects, particularly the NBA and the capped sports, everybody's equal.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's got the same you know, can spend the same money.
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  Speaker 1: When's the last time a major free agent signed in
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  Speaker 1: Sacramento or Milwaukee? Totally there's a there's a hierarchy, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's like that there are still attractive markets unattractive market
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  Speaker 1: it's franchises that are run well and franchises that aren't
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  Speaker 1: well run well. In the cap sports in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's got a chance. Well, Cleveland's still going to Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: and Cincinnati is still going to Cincinnati. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like.
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  Speaker 2: You're still going to have the discrepancy, like you're still
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  Speaker 2: going to spending at a certain amount and the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: spending at a certain amount. But what you you won't have.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, I think and this is where the
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  Speaker 2: floor in the cap comes in too, because I think
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  Speaker 2: the floor, and you've talked about this before, how important
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  Speaker 2: the floor would be. And I think that's where we'd
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  Speaker 2: see the most difference is you would see it's not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily the cap, but more so where the Brewers are
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  Speaker 2: then able to spend consit, you know, and basically if
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  Speaker 2: you trade away some prospects, you can make up with
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  Speaker 2: signing a mid level free agent. It's not necessarily Schooball,
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  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the highest you know, the show Aotani,
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  Speaker 2: but that mid level guy who can then have a
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  Speaker 2: bigger I have a may maybe the same amount of
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  Speaker 2: impact that a prospect could have. That right now, you're
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  Speaker 2: not even in the really for a mid level mid
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  Speaker 2: level free agent right now. So that's where I think
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  Speaker 2: you'd see the biggest difference, and that would allow you
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  Speaker 2: to then trade away some of these prospects. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily arguing as well that the Brewers shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: just done it this year and given up what maybe
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  Speaker 2: the Tigers were asking. And again we don't know exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Anna mckalvey put out that comp that when he asked
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  Speaker 2: about he said, he asked about a relative comp to
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  Speaker 2: the package the Dodgers gave up for three months of school.
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  Speaker 2: He heard Logan Henderson, Luis Pana and then either Bishop
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  Speaker 2: Letson or Josh notth And that seems to be way
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  Speaker 2: more than the Dodgers gave Upeah, which is I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how to necessarily read into that.
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  Speaker 1: Either the Tigers got an outfielder that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: plug in and hope that he becomes an All Star
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  Speaker 1: and that he's probably the key to it. And then
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  Speaker 1: two pitchers. One guy is a prospect at like twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven or twenty eight, but he's a converted position player.
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  Speaker 1: Two pitchers who've had Tommy John surgery, which you can
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  Speaker 1: either look at as questionable or while they're fixed. And
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  Speaker 1: like you, you know, you're you're not trading for a
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  Speaker 1: guy who might blow out. You can maybe they will
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  Speaker 1: a second time, but the odds are that they're fixed.
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  Speaker 1: So I think because of the way they're ranked, and
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  Speaker 1: prospect rankings are subjective. The way that they're ranked makes
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  Speaker 1: you think, well, the Burrs could have matched that easily,
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  Speaker 1: but again we don't know what the con and so
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  Speaker 1: it's all speculation. In fact, the talking text lines open
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  Speaker 1: for everybody eight seven, seven, seven, nine four one ninety
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  Speaker 1: who said, I know we always hate uh hear the
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  Speaker 1: statement trust the process, but not getting Scooble when we
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  Speaker 1: could have. I don't understand Dodger's traded for him, gave
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  Speaker 1: Detroit hardly anything. Well, I mean, I'm seeing it graded
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  Speaker 1: as like a B for the Tigers for their return.
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  Speaker 1: What I've been hearing is that we could have given
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  Speaker 1: up one of our top prospects and some others and
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  Speaker 1: we could have had him. Well, again, we don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: We don't we don't know what the cons where, and
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  Speaker 1: you're just Okay, but that's what you're hearing. What are
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  Speaker 1: we hanging on to all of them for? We made
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  Speaker 1: a move with CC, why not Scooball They really need
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  Speaker 1: to do something. Congrats Dodgers ahead of the playoffs. Hello
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  Speaker 1: football for us?
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  Speaker 2: So you're just gonna punt on the Brewers season with
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  Speaker 2: the best record based Le's.
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  Speaker 1: Record of baseball at the deadline for the second straight year.
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  Speaker 1: All right? Him on the talking text sign, I'm super
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  Speaker 1: happy for the Dodgers. They finally got a guy that
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  Speaker 1: gives them a chance to compete with the big markets
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  Speaker 1: like the Padres and Brewers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really happy for them, really happy. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: heart right yep.
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  Speaker 1: George and Wisconsin Rapids. Morning, five o'clockers, let's Monday the
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  Speaker 1: hell out of this day. The boys will get us
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  Speaker 1: through it. Yes we will. Oh yes, like the attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Like the attitude, Ryan and Msquigo. Why do the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: get Scooble? Simple? Owners don't want to see the Brewers win.
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  Speaker 1: A small market team winning the World Series would show
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  Speaker 1: that the small market can do it. Owners want a
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  Speaker 1: cap to line their pockets with more money. Am I wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I did see people saying that that like.
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  Speaker 1: Like, so Detroit's in on it, and they wanted they
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  Speaker 1: took less return because they want to help the greater good.
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  Speaker 2: Like I doubt it, Like come on that, you doubt that.
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  Speaker 1: That's absurd. I And it's interesting because I said this
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  Speaker 1: weekend that there was a sense like from the last week,
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  Speaker 1: well for five years, we thought like the national media
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  Speaker 1: was lobbying to get Yannis out of Milwaukee. Well for
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  Speaker 1: the last you know, week and a half two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of the top guys were
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  Speaker 1: saying the Brewers should go get schoolbl and it's like
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  Speaker 1: the opposite, like the Brewers should land the best guy
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  Speaker 1: on the market.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I kind of thought it was more realistic
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  Speaker 2: this time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it turned out not to happen, and the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers were going to get him anyway. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: if that's your conspiracy theory, like the the Tigers ownership,
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  Speaker 1: the ill Itch family wanted to help the greater good
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  Speaker 1: and help their cause, and they're gonna take less prospects
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  Speaker 1: in a deal. Like first of all, the GM is
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  Speaker 1: going to do this, like at the owner's insistence, Like
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  Speaker 1: the GM's job is on the line, and like Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost so far fetched, like when you really think
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  Speaker 1: about that statement, like, come on, yeah, there isn't this cabal.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is, and we're hurtling
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  Speaker 1: towards that, and the season's going on, and I think
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  Speaker 1: are those two things are kind of independent of each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody. I don't think anybody's making moves now
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  Speaker 1: or not making moves because they don't think there's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a season next year. They're assuming that there
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  Speaker 1: will be. In baseball, that's what you have the way
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  Speaker 1: you have to operate. So that's the way people are operating.
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  Speaker 1: I think you ask any GM like, I'm not worried
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Plus, if you lose the full season, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it depends, right, If you lose the full season, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't count towards a year of a guy in a contract. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you play sixty games or something like that, like
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  Speaker 2: the COVID year, it is going to count to us
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  Speaker 2: a year of the contract.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and then yeah, the owners want to line their pockets. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I guess like even the Dodgers would save
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  Speaker 1: money if there's a cap probably yeah, yeah, ostensibly they would,
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  Speaker 1: but and then the big thing is pooling the TV
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  Speaker 1: revenue and all that. So, yeah, that's a conspiracy Ryan
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  Speaker 1: that I'm just not going to buy into, Like that's
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  Speaker 1: not the way things work. I don't think I'm not
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  Speaker 1: buying that that the Tigers did that because of a
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  Speaker 1: bigger movement among owners to knock down the Dodgers and
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  Speaker 1: to you know, make it or to build up the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers so that they can say, well, look, we can't
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  Speaker 1: compete anymore, we need a cap. I mean, Bud Seely
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  Speaker 1: was saying this stuff in the nineties when we lost
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the ninety four World Series. That's what they were saying
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: is competitive balance, Like every team needs hope and faith
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, and that's why they
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: were trying to get a cap and it didn't work.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And I mean they've been talking about this for a
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: long time. But again, in the uncapped sport, they've had
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: more champions in the last twenty years or twenty five
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: years than the other sports.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: So I just think we're trending. We While that is true,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I do think since twenty twenty, we're trending in a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: different direction here. And maybe that's just because the Dodgers.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe that is one franchise that is not true. It right,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: find that's right because as far as using the big
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: money and also doing really well in their minor.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers have won four of they're going for three
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in a row and four and seven years.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: They went thirty four years without one. They did. Yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: it was less. The Mets won one was less.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: So is it? Sports worked in cycles and so yeah,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and the Mets they've spent more money than anybody. The
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Red Sox had a run where they've but now they've
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: come back to earth. You mentioned the Yankees are basically
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: in it every year, but they don't win it. They
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: haven't won it a lot. Yeah, like since their dynasty
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of the late nineties. So, Kansas City is won a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: World Series, right, Houston's won a couple. Houston's not exactly
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a small market, but just saying it, well, Texas too.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I mean again, not a small market, but the diversity
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: at the top, it's possible. It's a fascinating conundrum. And I, yeah,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. I don't and I but
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't know how much a cap
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: is going to help the Brewers. For the same reason,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that there's a cap and there's still a Sacramento. You
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: got to be smart and you got to be able
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to you know, draft and develop and run it the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: way the Brewers have been running it. The cap doesn't
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: help the Sacramento Kings win, you know, ever, right, it
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: does still, Oh, you absolutely have to still have you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: still have and then like look at the big markets,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: like the Angels, Brewers just played them and couldn't sweep them.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Like they're in the same market as the Dodgers, and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of resources too, but they're not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the same universe.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Right, So it definitely you have to give credit to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: where credit is due there and that the Dodgers are
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: deserving of credit of how they've built not only their
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: farm system, but how they've done at the major league level.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: You've talked about the the job that Dave Roberts has done.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Like there they are a well run organization. That is
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: part of it. But the other part of that is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: again it's it's like if if Okay, what if the
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Brewers had that money? Uh, and and how good they
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: are as far as their organizational decisions. Now the other
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: side to that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Now that's the David Stern.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And I thought about this too, like, what if they
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: implement salary cap and floor and that changes the calculus
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of how the Brewers out a little bit? And maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: they don't thrive as much in that system. But does
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: it open up more possibilities for them to go and
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: win a World Series? Maybe? Maybe not, because you have
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: to get through the Dodgers right now. And even if
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: you institute a salary cap, it's not totally going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: bring the Dodgers crashing down to Earth. They're still going
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: to be able to spend more than the Brewers. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's there's a lot of give and take here. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly if a cap and floor like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: solves every issue that is going on here, but all
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: I do know is that it's just man, it just
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: it is. It's disheartening for fans if you're not a
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: fan of the Dodgers, and then it just puts salt
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: in the wound when you see, you know, Dave Roberts
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: come on and say, oh, any team can do what
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: we're doing. No, come on.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I really no.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, they could give up prospects, but and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: you could argue that the Brewers should have but we
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: don't know those how those negotiations went. But you just
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: those those prospects are prize possessions when you are in
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: an organization like the Brewers of the Rays compared to
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It's just the truth. It's true. It's true. Well, Turk
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: schoobls Dodgers debut comes Tuesday night against the Cubs.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: And we will be cheering for schoobl on that night.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: On that night, he can go ahead and pitch a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: shout out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Mm h, be interesting, all right, Tommy and Stalls. Dodgers
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: are messing with baseball juju. This load management of their
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers for the last two years, they're playing games
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: with these injuries. Well, they're going to turn into real
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: injuries at the worst possible time. I don't wish that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: upon them. I just well, I guess I do wish
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that upon them. Have a great week. All right, we'll
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: take your thoughts again. The Brewers. We got team minus
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: eleven and a half hours for Matt Arnold to cook.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It's going to be deflating if they don't make a move.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: For sure. I don't know how you can go until
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how five o'clock can pass. And the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: only trade you do is Blake Perkins and Craig Yoho
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: for Cody Hoyer and Bow Naylor, and they are at
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: triple A. I don't I think there's a move. Yes,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a couple to come today. We shall see stick around.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun today. Billy will be dropping
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: in on us. We have to pack practice. They were
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: in shells yesterday. Pads go on today Christmas Morning for
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Billy and Wayne Larvie. The training camp live airs from
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: eleven to one on these here airwaves and interwebs. Some
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: of them we are going to again. We're talking birders.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: We have game balls and kicks, the balls coming up
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: after six o'clock, and then the usual stuff. We may
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: or may not see Scott Dolphin today. I'm not sure
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: if he's back from Iceland yet. We'll find out together.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Reports are that I think he is.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: At six three. Well, yeah, since you neither of us
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: drink coffee, true, that's the way, you know, because Dolph's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the guy who starts the coffee pop most days. All right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have some fun today. We're glad you're hanging
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: out with us. Five o'clock clubbers. You're in the huddle.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin Monday edition of The Huddle continues
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: from headquarters. Drew Wilson, Hunter Bombgart, I'm gonna be back tomorrow.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Billy be popping in on his way to Green Bay
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for the first padded practice of Packers Camp. We'll talk
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: about that as we move forward. Obviously, day is the day,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: August third, we got here. It's the trade deadline. Five
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: o'clock tonight. Brewers at home tonight, playing Pittsburgh. Yes, and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: they've just wrapped a road trip, the West Coast trip.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I love West Coast games on the weekends like Friday
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and Saturday nights. Nice, not so much during the week.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They'll be playing the Dodgers and Padres on their next trip,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: but this little homestand in between for this week. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they go three and three on a trip to San
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Francisco in Anaheim, And it's great that the bar has
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: been set for the Brewers at three and three fields
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like a disappointment, Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I think so. It's nice to have, especially against those
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: two teams.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I've always said, like, you know, when when you're a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: good team, you're at your worst, you're five hundred, Well,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: three and three is like their worst, you know, it's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like that would have been nice to get. Yesterday's game
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: with Miz on the mound, he gave up a homer
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and didn't pitch badly by any stretch, just gave up
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a homer totally on a cutter.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Seven innings of two run ball in ten k's. I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: think you'd take it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean again, like was he He's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: been more spectacular, But that's pretty spectacular. Like that has
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: nothing to take for granted, you should win those games
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: on your bad outings to go, you know, seven innings
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and ten k's it's like, come on, so yeah, home
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: run on a cutter. Now people are wondering why you
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: even throwing that cutter. Well, you got to throw something
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: besides fastball because otherwise they'll tee up on the fastball.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: So yeah, miss will have better days. But now it's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: all about what do the Burghers do today? What can
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they pull out of their hat? They can't get Kevin
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Gosman or Freddy Peralta. There are other arms out there?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Are they going to be arms that excite people? Well,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: people get excited if it's Doug Walker, Will that be enough?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Probably not?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Michael, Yeah from uh uh, Kansas City. Yeah. Maybe for
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: some reason his his name has not come up as
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: much as some of these other guys, whether it be
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Foster Griffin or Casey Mice or Robbie Ray or Look,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I think you have a if you get one of
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: those guys, I think you have a really solid pitcher
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that's coming into your rotation. I don't you know. Obviously
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it's not going to be the excitement level of Tarik's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: schoobl but if you bring in in Casey mis or
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Robbie Raid of this rotation, I think that really solidifies
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: another spot.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Here's the uh, here's the thing that well Andy and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: west Ben hit us up to. He uh, he said,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Bruise fans, don't get it. All your prospects can't be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: on the MLB team. You need to move some. You
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: still have plenty on the farm. You must add offense
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and pitching today or why even play in October? Well,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: what was the Brewers deadline deal last year? Danny Jansen?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Danny Jansen and they made it to the NLCS and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: again they lost to the Dodgers. But didn't they make
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: one more move all the years?
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They do together that. Yeah, but here's the stark
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: reality had the Brewers landed Tark Schoobl and we were celebrating,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and people were buying jerseys, and we were trying to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: figure out, you know who he's if he's going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: pitch Tuesday.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: That would.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You have the media availability tonight? Oh, that would have
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: been amazing if the Brewers atlantic Tarrek Skouble, I still
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: think the Dodgers would be a prohibitive favorite to beat
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: them in the playoffs. That's well, that's totally that's you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: know so, But have given you what do you wish for?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: It would give you. It would give you an adrenaline.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's a dopamine. Hit on it on August first if
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you get them. But at the same time, the stark
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: reality is you're still an underdog.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Your odds would have been better to beat the Dodgers
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: than they are right now with terror schooball on the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: La Dodgers. I think that that you can say, though
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: your your odds Dodgers would have been better.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So it would go from like seventy five percent that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers win to sixty. Yeah, but that's still fit,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: all right, you're shaving that off. Look for every little
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: edge you can in baseball. Oh yeah, I think at
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: this point, Yes, I think so. And again yeah, like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and the sexy picks aren't always the most effective. Sure, Yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we've seen guys get traded the deadline and not perform
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: one well. Jonathan Scope. Yeah, the highway is littered with
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: guys that you pick and expect to do well and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: then they just don't for whatever reason.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. Is it better that he
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: went to the Dodgers compared to the Cubs? Ooh, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to me, I think it is. I think it would
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: have been so if you have seen the team, you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: ninety miles South go and get Ter school and you didn't,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and knowing that the Cubs do not have the type
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: of farmcist and the Birds have. The Dodgers are close
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: when it comes to farm system, you know, rankings wise,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the Birds and Dodgers are about the same. Yeah, Cubs
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: are not. So I think that would have been worse
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: if he would have went to the Cubs. True competitively
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: as well, obviously division first.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously that would have been nice of the Yankees
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to win a series against the Cubs this weekend, right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate their efforts, Thank you Yankees.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually thank yourself cheering for the Yankees this
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: weekends and a half game lead for the six and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a half game lead in the division for the Brewers.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Looking pretty pretty solid again. And that tripped to uh
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: La and San Diego's gonna be interesting now when the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Brewers go to La. Do you hope they face Schoogle?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Why not geta see him first? You face them back
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: in April almost beat them, like Perkins had a big
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: hit and I know he's not, unfortunately on the team anymore,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but he had a big hit against the Tigers in
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that game. So you face them in April and face
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: them again.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Here, here's here's what I'm in the crystal ball. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: have no idea what's going to.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Happen in the next eleven and a half hours.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: No, he does well, are the Brewers close to popping
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a trade? Will it be something like you know whoa
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: holy Kyle? Will it be like run to the ticket
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: window or go to the team store and get the shirtsy's.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling what if they do stuff that's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: like people like uh who huh? Well, you know, it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: kinda what what if they make theirs and it's guys,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: what and then they're underwhelmed and stuff. So did the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: scooble thing. Did missing out on him diminish the joy
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of any acquisition that they'll make.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I think for some people, yes, I think there's it's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: gonna feel like a consolation prize. I think so. But
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I think you have to kind of frame it. You
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: have to make sure that's not necessarily to frame it
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that way, because I think you can still get a
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: really solid pitcher at this deadline if you get a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Mize or a Griffin or a Ray, especially Ray and Myze.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I think if you get one of those two, I'm happy.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I say, Okay, they went out and they solidified their
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: rotation with a guy who's having a good year and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: can really help you down the stretch into the postseason.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm good with that. I'm good with that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: At the deadline, here's another layer like who I don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: remember it was Baraboo Bau or who was it that
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: thought the conspiracy theory about Oh, major League Baseball is
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: doing this all right, Ryan msquigo. One of the things
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: is if you want to first of all, like you said,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you don't know that the Tigers might Okay, we got
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: some guys, and we're going to try to win this
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: crappy division in a crappy league and roll the dice
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year and not trade Casey Mice
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: or anybody else. Okay, but if they do try to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: trade Casey Mice, didn't they if you think that they
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: got a week return? And I think some of us
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: are downgrading the return again, I'm seeing it like the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: experts are grading them like as a B kind of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like prospects, like.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Could they have gotten more? Potentially? I feel like they
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: probably get it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Like, Okay, so you can say the return was maybe
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: lighter than expected, but it's not as horrible as we
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: are painting it as I think. But if that's the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: return for Schooble, doesn't that lower the bar and the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: cover charge for Casey Mice? Yes, I like, wait a minute,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving you more for Mice than you got
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: for school, even though my is controllable or you know.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But every deal is different too.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That's that's the thing I know that they don't. It
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: shouldn't one deal shouldn't affect the next. No, So it's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: not like you're signing a free agent and then you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: signed the top of the market guy and then the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: next guy slots like below him. It's not like that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way, but in my mind it
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: kind of does. Like if they're asking for Hayesu's made
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: for Casey, miis like, no, you didn't get that for
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: schoobl Right, Yeah, there is that. And the thing is
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: with Scooble is for teams like the Brewers. He's a
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: rental for the Dodgers. He's an investment, right, Yes, because
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he's going they're they're going to be able to they'll
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: sign him. I mean that's where he was probably gonna
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: end up anyway.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So that's that's what that's striking. So yeah, uh Andy
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and West Bend, you're you're He's right. The Brewers fans
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you they got to do something today or why play
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in October? Well, as constructed, again, the Brewers have the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: best record in baseball, and there's you can't predict what's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. The reason that Baseball's had more diversity at
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the top in an uncapped sport is because baseball is
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the most polible sport. The best teams don't always win,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: regardless of home field, regardless of anything. It's baseball hashtag
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: baseball on any given day, right a hot pitcher or
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: just a cold pitcher, or you know, the Dodgers probably
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: would have won a couple of years ago, but Bets
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and Freeman went like, oh, for the playoffs, oh for
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a series and they lost, right, And they're like, well, okay,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I get that's baseball. I think baseball is more randomized.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It is, even even in a three in a five
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: game series or whatever. It's like, it's still randomized, right,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: no matter what the length of the series.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: The other sentiment that I've heard from fans is, oh,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: this is gonna make it even sweeter when the Birds
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: beat the Dodgers in the playoffs because they added another
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: piece and when the Bruns and I'm like, yeah, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: mean it's an uphill climb, but I get it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: They don't face them. I mean, what if somebody else
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: knocks also that possibility, what if the Braves or the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: phill Is knock off the dog. You know, that's the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: thing that's the randomness. But in theory, yes, and you
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: want to line it up, but I think the Dodgers
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: were probably seventy five percent to win the title before
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and now is that did that go down no.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: More. And the more and more that the Dodgers add
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and add, whether it be through free agency or trades here,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the more that I feel like it takes the randomness
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  Speaker 2: out of it. Yes, the Dodgers could lose in the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: first round, but man, I mean you look at the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: rotation they have in the lineup. It's it's going to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: be tough for me to think that when they put
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: their best guys out there. You're like, oh, they got
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: swept by the Red Sox at home this weekend. Okay,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: but that's not this isn't They're not thrown out there one, two, three, uh.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: And obviously Schooble wasn't a part of that. So I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: just think it's taking a little more of the random
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: out of it when you look at how good the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Dodgers are right now. So we got some comments coming
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: in here on YouTube. Let's get to a couple of these,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: just a bunch. Thanks everybody for chiming in here. The
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: five o'clock Club is alive and well it is Wow.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Mike says the Brewers will not make a trade. Okay,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: so he thinks nothing. Ok Tim says, can't believe anyone
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: felt the Brewers were all in. I've been a fan
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy. I know better. Okay, I don't know
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: if we thought necessarily all in. I thought that this
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: was kind of all in trading moday or trading you know, well, right,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And I think to me it was more so, okay,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you're kind of felt like you were building up to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: this year a little bit, and it felt like, okay,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: you have the best record baseball. Again, maybe this is
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a year where you sacrifice some prospects and that could
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: still happen by five o'clock today, So there is still
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I think we we have to trade. We
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: have to judge this trade deadline once five o'clock hits,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to do so before that, Let's see,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: steven says, if there's a lockout and the owners want
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: a salary cap, does the arbitration system survive?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, you can make a case that, well, it might
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: change and they might get to it earlier, even or
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: arbitration in the big picture has hurt the owners more
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: than free agency, right. Yeah, so, and then you know
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the owner's gonna have to give something back to get
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a cap. This is gonna be significant. This free agency
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like after five years, now is it? You know, after
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: four years you can be a free Like, what are
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they gonna what are they gonna have to give back?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Fascinating negotiations there of what it's gonna take, for sure,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But again you kind of kind of keep that out
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: of your mind when it comes to the plate spinning
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: now and Matt Arnold's talking to every team, he's got
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: lines in the water, and you're right, I'm sure they're
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: talking about Robbie, right, I'm sure they're talking about.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody, but they're talking about school.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they were, like, but again, we don't know
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: what what was offered, or what if it never got
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to that? And then what if the Tigers wanted to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: trade schoobl to Detroit just to do a massalid and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: send him where he wanted to go and get the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: best deal from the Dodgers. I mean, I don't think
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that's the case, but I don't think they owe that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to him. But not again, we did Well, we don't
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: know what we don't know, and that's that's a frustrating
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: place to be. I'm sure Matt Arnold's gonna address you
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: guys tonight at the ballpark. I would think so after
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: that come by five o'clock. Yeah, yeah, so all right.
• 35:07
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• 35:09
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  Speaker 1: There you go eight seven, seven, seven, nine four, one
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• 35:20
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• 35:22
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• 35:25
  Speaker 1: about the storylines. There got a name change, Packer's got
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a new starting right tackle, so to speak to Thunk, Yeah,
• 35:34
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• 35:36
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• 35:43
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• 35:48
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• 35:51
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• 35:52
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  Speaker 1: cop talking text on eighty seven to seven seven ninety
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: seven to three. Uh, we expect more texts than calls.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: But lo and behold, Brewer Mike is online one of
• 36:07
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• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Hey, how are my two favorite guys?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: We're good.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: How was your weekend? Guys? Oh?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Low key, low key, relaxing.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear it, I hear you. Mi. Mine was
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: a little less low key than last week with my
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: seven thousand game.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, always going to be a letdown.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, now I go for ten thousand.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I I was a little disappointed, boys,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: because I thought this would be like a CC move again.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to make a trade,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: and this guy ain't moving.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, out of the way. Mike's trying to drive.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, I would love to see, you know, any
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: of the other pitchers out there, but I'm not given
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a far away guys. You know I did. It'd be
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: stupid if we gave the farm away for because right now,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: like you guys said before, Schooble, I mean, who knows.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: One of these guys might end up being good, but
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: they could all be you know, flopped like big could
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I'll be cuss and eros probably No.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Was Schooble a different Do you think Schooble was a
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: different case though, Like you would have felt okay giving
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: up some of the farm because of the talent level
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and the type of CC type of deal that you
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: would have gotten.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Yes and no. I mean I wanted to have given
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: up my day, but I probably would have gave up
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Penia and uh, maybe the catcher because we just got
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Nailor and I'm scratching my head on that hunter. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: was going to ask you that, why why would they
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: send it down to Nashville.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well, I don't you don't really want
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: to carry catcher? Yeah, you're not probably going to carry
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: three catchers. I think Gary is still your backup. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: think Naylor is almost more of a future move. And look,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you weren't gonna have Blake Perkins necessarily on your roster
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: because Brandon Lockridge was coming back and I think Perkins
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: obviously has not had a good year, so you were
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: going to have him on your roster. They probably threw
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: in you know, Joho was probably not a throw in,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: but obviously something else that Cleveland wanted. And then man
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Arnold was saying that he's liked and liked what Naylor
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: has done, especially on the defensive side throughout his career,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: and has has some pop to him at time. So
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I think this is more of a depth move, not
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: necessarily for now, and the athletic reporting that they're not
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: going to trade Gary Sanchez, so uh, it's it sounds
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: like Gary is still going to be your backup catcher
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and then Naylor's just there for depth.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't I don't agree with that. I would
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: either trade him or cut him because Naylor is probably
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: a lot better right now than Sanchez.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I disagree. Ask the people in Cleveland about Yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, Naylor spent most of the year at Triple LA.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Sanchez knows your pitching staff at this time.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Sanchez is a good catch. Sanchez is the perfect backup
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: to kind of is. I don't know if there's any better. Yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: because he's a veteran, His catch and throw is pretty good.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: He's challenging. We can talk about he's a little excessive
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: on the challenges, but he's taking advantage of being a
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: veteran in the challenge. Other than that, though, and he's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a guy like you know, he can he could get
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: one at batan series and change a series. Yeah, Like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with him being my backup catcher.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's the perfect backup catcher.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I think last year you kind of saw where they
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: tried to upgrade there at with Danny Jansen, and honestly,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I think Eric Coss might have been the better option,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and so you'd have to bring in a guy. Not
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: that we won't see Naylor obviously, if Sanchez goes down,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: he might be the next guy, although you ever since
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Carroll could be the next guy too, But I think
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: this just builds your depth, really, and Naylor is a
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: guy who's who's been there, done that. I mean, he's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a postseason experience.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you're right, Naylor is about the future.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, Carol has been hurt a lot.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna not to catch anymore, or something to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: find a new position for him. I don't know, who know.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I think the goal for the organization, it seems, is
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: to just have him have a consistent season of catching,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: hitting everything at the minor league level, and then you
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: kind of, Okay, now that we've got a full season
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: after his injury, what do we what do we do.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys behind him there moving up
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the charts.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: To Marco Ding is another guy who to catching last
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: night for some of his game.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so stay tuned again. It's it will be deflating
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: if the Burers don't make a move, even a nominal move, right, yeah, just.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Make I mean, well, I guess you could argue the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: nominal move was uh well over the weekend. Yeah that
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: was that was like that was like a minor league
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: trade almost all right, So going and grabbing Luke Weaver
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: would be a move for sure. I think that would
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: would that would be quite signific.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller is probably not going to move. I don't
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: know that mis will. So again, we will see what
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: man Arnold has up his sleeve.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: He's probably got something.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I would be shocked if he didn't, but then again,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: gotta be shocked the other way.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So Scooble of the Dodgers.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: We will continue to discuss as we move forward on
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the program. Game balls and kicks to the balls, getting
• 41:08
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• 41:10
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• 41:13
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