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An Unnecessary Tell All (The Golden Bachelor Season 2 Women Tell All Recap) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Hey guys, that's the almost famous podcast. We are together
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Speaker 2: and we are breaking down the Golden Bachelor women tell
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Speaker 2: All episode. But hey, Ben, yes, is there anything to
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Speaker 2: break down? And I'm not making fun of the show.
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Speaker 2: I'm just like, this was the most wasted money ever?
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Speaker 3: Is it wasted? A live shows more expensive? You thing?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Because they have to rent out that studio and then
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Speaker 2: they have to fly in all those ladies, pay for
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Speaker 2: the hotel for all those ladies. It's expensive. And there
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Speaker 2: was nothing nothing. I mean, it was air.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, we're gonna get into that. Before we do,
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Speaker 3: we want to tell everybody Happy Halloween. If you cele
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Speaker 3: it is ween known as first Halloween. I am dressing
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Speaker 3: up for the first time, I bet in twenty five years.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's so you to have not dressed up for
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Speaker 2: twenty five years?
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Speaker 3: It is, and literally I haven't. I didn't dress that
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Speaker 3: much as it.
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Speaker 2: I had never not dressed up. Did you know that? No,
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Speaker 2: never not dressed up.
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Speaker 3: What's your most iconic look?
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Speaker 2: Well, the one that is iconic to me is like
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Speaker 2: my custom made jasmine costume. I had a custom made
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Speaker 2: one when I was little, and then when I was
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Speaker 2: twenty one, I got another custom one made, and man,
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Speaker 2: oh man, were they worn so many times. There were
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Speaker 2: so many years where it would be my fallback and
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Speaker 2: then it would be like great. In addition, because there
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Speaker 2: was also so many years in my twenties where it
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Speaker 2: was like such an Instagram thing that like I needed
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Speaker 2: to have multiple costumes for the plot of it, all right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so yeah, that has been so well worn. And it
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Speaker 2: was great when Dawson was going through his Aladdin stage
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Speaker 2: like two years ago phase, and then when Jared and
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Speaker 2: I got together and I finally got the have a
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Speaker 2: couple's costume for the first time in my life. So excited.
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Speaker 2: This is the only year where I guess since Dawson's
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Speaker 2: had like sort of an opinion, like I have had
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Speaker 2: less of a compulsion to dress up for myself.
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Speaker 3: Are you going to dress up? Though? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: But for the first time ever, like I don't have
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Speaker 2: like any connection to my costume, and that is because
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Speaker 2: I'm being a Power Ranger. I'm being a pink Power
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Speaker 2: Ranger because Jared has got Dawson into the Power Rangers.
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Speaker 2: I did it was not allowed to watch the Power
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Speaker 2: Engers when it was really popular when we were in kindergarten.
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Speaker 2: Is Len, Yes, and I have stuck stuck with that,
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Speaker 2: taken my mom's motto, and he does. He's not really
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Speaker 2: allowed to watch it either. He has seen like a
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Speaker 2: couple episodes on planes, like as like a special treat,
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Speaker 2: and then Jared has shown him the movie, which Jared
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Speaker 2: claims is far teamer and like less bizarre than the
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Speaker 2: show a couple times. But he's actually like never been like,
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Speaker 2: go watch Power Ranges, War watch Power Juice, which is
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Speaker 2: great because it's usually not allowed. But he just loves
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Speaker 2: like the martial arts of it, and he loves playing it,
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Speaker 2: and he loves his action figures. He loves his Power
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Speaker 2: Ranger action figures.
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Speaker 3: I grew up liking the Power Ranges a little bit. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I never got that into him. There is a little weird.
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Speaker 3: I think it was a little creepy for me. Yeah weird.
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Speaker 3: I think he was a pink Power Ranger is a
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Speaker 3: great costume, by the way, I think it's gonna pink.
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Speaker 2: Yeah really, yeah. I just hope that we can make
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Speaker 2: some video where it's like really nostalgically, like it looks
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Speaker 2: like a VHS tape for the nineties. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 2: then it'll feed my creative juices. But everybody is going
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Speaker 2: to be one. Jared's gonna be the Green Ranger or
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Speaker 2: hate him being the Green Ranger, or one of them's blue,
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Speaker 2: one of them's green, and Dawson's the red one.
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Speaker 3: I feel like you're defeated.
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Speaker 2: I am. I am defeated because you know what this
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Speaker 2: is me this is this is the first time there's
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Speaker 2: like an activity where being a boy mom has been like, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: I have to be a Power Ranger for Halloween, whereas
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Speaker 2: like I'm always dressing up as princesses or like Taylor
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Speaker 2: Sway after something like that. Yeah, and it's okay. Somebody
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Speaker 2: said something to me on Instagram when I posted that
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Speaker 2: we're going to be Power Rangers, and they're like the
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Speaker 2: fact that like you are going along with like his
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Speaker 2: choice of costume is an example of how you are
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Speaker 2: a great mom to him, and I'm like, that's so sweet.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to remind myself of this on Halloween as
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Speaker 2: I'm dressed as a Power Enger.
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Speaker 3: It's a testament to you in your commitment to make
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Speaker 3: sure that your sons have a good time. I'm dressing
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Speaker 3: up for the first time as the.
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Speaker 2: Being twenty five years it's the best.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're gonna be like the little like the
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Speaker 2: adorable dad. There's this TikTok gone viral of a beast
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Speaker 2: walking down the road with his little bell and he's
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Speaker 2: gigantic and she's so tiny.
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Speaker 3: So who's just gonna be a bigger bell?
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Speaker 2: Oh so two bells? That's cute.
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Speaker 3: Two bells. She bought everything. I've even seen my costume have.
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Speaker 2: That's so cute. So are you gonna go take your
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Speaker 2: check treating because it's kind of a weird age.
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Speaker 3: Okay, We're gonna take her early to show our neighbors
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Speaker 3: because they just love seeing Winnie and so my parents
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Speaker 3: have come out. They're going to pass out candy at
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Speaker 3: our house. We're gonna take her around and say hi
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Speaker 3: to the neighbors. Obviously, Halloween falls on a Friday, so
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Speaker 3: it's a big party in our neighborhood. It's going to
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Speaker 3: be a blast. Have I ever told you before we
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Speaker 3: get into the breakdown what happens in my neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: I think you said that it's just like wild, wild
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Speaker 2: Halloween neighborhood, But.
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Speaker 3: This is no lie. The elk herd that lives like
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Speaker 3: amongst us, around us.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I know all about this. How they just
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Speaker 2: walk down the street.
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Speaker 3: They walk down the street after everybody leaves and eats
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Speaker 3: the candy, and they'll like be walking past the kids,
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Speaker 3: like the hurdle on the street, eating pumpkins and candy
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Speaker 3: and the kids will still be chick or treating. It's crazy.
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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that.
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Speaker 2: Is so cool. I love that imagery. Can you please
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Speaker 2: record that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I will. I'm not very good at recording stuff,
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Speaker 3: but I will if you asked me to. I'll remember
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Speaker 3: to record that.
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Speaker 2: Please. That's such good visuals.
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Speaker 3: It's so fun, it's so great, it hilarious. We're excited
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Speaker 3: for it. It's gonna be a good year. I'm just excited.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Lenona just breaks my heart every time. And
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Speaker 3: if she's in a little princess costume, I don't know
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Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do, but I'm gonna be so proud
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Speaker 3: of her because she's beauty.
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Speaker 2: My gosh, oh my gosh, Ben, this is so cute.
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Speaker 2: I gotta talk about this forever. The fact that I
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Speaker 2: also just casually in our dress up box downstairs, have
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Speaker 2: a full blown beauty in the Beast sets like I
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Speaker 2: just have one. Of course, I do a full blown
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Speaker 2: beast costume in the basement. Jared and I once, stupidly,
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Speaker 2: I think this was last Halloween, went upstairs to wake
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Speaker 2: up Dawson from a nap dressed as Belle and the
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Speaker 2: Beast on Halloween, thinking that he would think it was cool,
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Speaker 2: and uh no, Petri died. Yeah, he's not scared of anything, though,
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Speaker 2: it's so weird. He goes to the Halloween stores, he's like,
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Speaker 2: all the scary animatronics, not phase at all, Hayden petrified. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so yeah, he's he's never been scared of things like
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Speaker 2: that too. I don't know my sisters who are going
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Speaker 2: to my sister's house for Halloween, because she's like in
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Speaker 2: the Arlington paper every year for being like one of
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Speaker 2: the houses to go see because she has insane decorations outside.
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Speaker 2: She goes back and forth between scary dolls, clowns, and
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Speaker 2: then like a graveyard. And besides that, that's like all
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Speaker 2: the shed can handle. Like the shed is basically dedicated to,
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Speaker 2: you know, to Halloween decor and she has so many
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Speaker 2: Chucker traders. So I'm really excited.
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Speaker 3: I know you have a lot of men in your life,
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Speaker 3: but I want to remind you that I am frightened
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Speaker 3: of clowns, like I have a mass.
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Speaker 2: That's the theme this year. Good good, It's so it
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Speaker 2: is really scary. I'll send you videos.
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Speaker 3: There's nothing about class that makes sense to me. All right,
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Speaker 3: as we close up here, ashes any sense? What candy
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Speaker 3: is your favorite that your boys will get? Possibly trigger tree?
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Speaker 2: Okay, so, like my favorite candy in general is Cadberry chocolate.
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Speaker 2: I love Cadberry chocolate. I think it's more high scale
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Speaker 2: than any sort of good diver or don't anything on
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Speaker 2: that level. But Halloween candy. I do love a tutsi
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Speaker 2: roll and I'm always excited to see you know them
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Speaker 2: get Reese's Twigs, Snickers, Milky Way, Like, those are some classics.
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Speaker 3: You just named the whole bag of candy that I bought.
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Speaker 2: Like, no, no candy, I don't want the fake dies.
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Speaker 2: I mean I do like Twizzlers, uh, and I do
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Speaker 2: like Star Wars. So basically all the good ones. That's
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Speaker 2: my taste. What about you.
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Speaker 3: I'm a sour guy. Anything sour I will eat up
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Speaker 3: in a second. But I'm not a candy fan. But
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Speaker 3: I will eat a lot of sour candy.
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Speaker 2: You're not a candy fan. What do you mean by that?
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Speaker 3: I don't eat I don't like candy that much.
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Speaker 2: Wow, you know that like Jared and I both, I
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Speaker 2: cannot go to bed without having dessert. I really can't
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Speaker 2: finish a meal without having a piece of chocolate. I
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Speaker 2: have a mini dessert after every meal.
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Speaker 3: I don't eat dessert. Jessica thinks it's odd. I'm a
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Speaker 3: fruit fan of dessert, so like anything fruity. So if
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Speaker 3: they have like a blueberry crisp, I might get it
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Speaker 3: a peach cobbler. Could see myself eating it. But that's all.
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Speaker 3: That's as far as I go.
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Speaker 2: Wow, man, that's good for you. Like, I'm happy for
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Speaker 2: you about that. But like all my desserts have to
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Speaker 2: incorporate chocolate, even like pies like no thank you unless
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Speaker 2: it's chocolate cream pie.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not like I've made this conscious decision for
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Speaker 3: my health. I do about anything's bad for my health.
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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know. I've never love candy. It's
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Speaker 3: not a sugar guy. Never happened. I don't drink soda.
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Speaker 2: So wow, good for you. I just love a coke.
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Speaker 3: But I eat a ton of chips.
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Speaker 2: Are you salty guy? Then?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: You know I eat My favorite food in the entire
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Speaker 2: world might just be chips and dip. Yeah, that's my
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Speaker 2: ultimate weakness.
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Speaker 3: I can I can pound a bag of cheddar and
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Speaker 3: sour cream ruffles in one day pretty easily.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh see, I'm more of like a taco dip
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Speaker 2: or chips and salsa or chips, and I guess it's
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Speaker 2: like a tosquito, but a really hard crunchy one and
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Speaker 2: put it in queso. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 2: I do want to share one more thing that's unrelated.
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Speaker 2: I'm going on our first Disney cruise next week. I've
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Speaker 2: been on nineteen cruises, eighteen Royal Caribbean, very loyal to
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Speaker 2: Royal than been on one Princess. I was in seventh grade.
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Speaker 2: And what did I say? In seventh grade? I cried
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Speaker 2: when I saw the dining room because it wasn't grand enough.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that fits.
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Speaker 2: Yep, checks out that I've been me for that long
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Speaker 2: and no offensive Princess cruise line. I'm sure I just am. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 2: then we were going on a Disney cruise for my
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Speaker 2: dad's It's kind of in celebration for my dad's seventieth birthday,
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Speaker 2: which happened two weeks ago. He hasn't been on vacation
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Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, Like, he has not been like away
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Speaker 2: on vacation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he worked through COVID, I remember that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he takes vacation like he's off weeks
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Speaker 2: at a time, but he doesn't leave like the house. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he likes to be at the house and then in
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Speaker 2: work at the house, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 2: he likes like work on the house when he's off.
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Speaker 2: So we're very excited and he actually really wanted to
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Speaker 2: try Disney.
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Speaker 3: I hope it's a blast seventieth birthday. What a deal
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Speaker 3: the guys. The guy's got forty years left, I would hope.
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Speaker 2: So, I mean his mother is one hundred and two.
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Speaker 2: So I am trying to not get excited that he
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Speaker 2: may have thirty two left.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's the sweetest thing. That's one of the sweet things. Said,
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Speaker 3: I had no doubt. Actually we are here to break
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Speaker 3: down this episode. It was to tell all again, as
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Speaker 3: I said last week, you and I both are going
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Speaker 3: to be very clear, transparent that a lot of this
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Speaker 3: has missed for us but we can't come in here
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Speaker 3: as negative nancies. People don't listen to us to be
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Speaker 3: negative nancies. They don't listen to us to just simply complain.
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Speaker 3: So we'll get that out of the way off the top.
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Speaker 3: I'm confused on why they did a tell all. First
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Speaker 3: of all, I don't know why they thought it would
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Speaker 3: fit this season. The cast members weren't that well known.
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Speaker 3: In fact, some of them getting announced and maybe this
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Speaker 3: is just me could be, but it's kind of my job,
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Speaker 3: and I feel like I tried pretty hard to get
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Speaker 3: to know the people on the show. There were people
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Speaker 3: getting announced that I had no recollection of, could not
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Speaker 3: remember their names, was looking them back up on ABC's
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Speaker 3: website when they were saying here is so and so,
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Speaker 3: and I'd say, yep, never seen her before, don't have
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Speaker 3: any idea in They're like, she made it to week four,
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, still never saw her before. The tell
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Speaker 3: all was an interesting choice for this season. I just
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Speaker 3: don't think it was necessary. I don't think it fit.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it resonated probably with the audience. And
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Speaker 3: that's why I asked you off the beginning, is it
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Speaker 3: really cheaper? Because it had to be a strategic move
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Speaker 3: to say, hey, let's fill an episode, let's get this
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Speaker 3: time slot going, but let's not spend money on the travel,
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Speaker 3: on the food, on the crew. But maybe maybe.
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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, you know, I would rather them use this
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Speaker 2: as like, honestly, do a freaking forty hour forty god no,
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Speaker 2: not forty hour forty minute episode of just bloopers or
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Speaker 2: the things we haven't seen before, like a behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes of the Golden Like that would be so much
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Speaker 2: more interesting if they needed a filler episode. They also,
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Speaker 2: I think that they could have dragged it out, like
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Speaker 2: there could have been some part of the season that
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Speaker 2: they didn't like crunch Down, Like there was a couple episodes.
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Speaker 2: I feel like that had two Row ceremonies in it.
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Speaker 2: We didn't need that. Spread it out so that we
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Speaker 2: could have had that in this slot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, Ashley, let's dive into it. The big
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Speaker 3: storyline coming into this tell all was going to be
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Speaker 3: Nicole and how the ladies handled the cole, what they
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Speaker 3: would say back to Nicole. I honestly felt like coming
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Speaker 3: out of it, it was tame towards Nicole in a
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Speaker 3: way I did not expect, and maybe I thought maybe
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Speaker 3: I was just like building myself up if they're going
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Speaker 3: to do a tell all. Unfortunately for Nicole, they're doing
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Speaker 3: a tell all because they think they have content grand
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Speaker 3: enough to show her getting talked to by the ladies
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Speaker 3: and mel It felt tame to me, good, bad, and different.
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Speaker 3: It just felt tamer than I expected. Do you agree?
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Speaker 2: I thought Debbie was kind of came at her. Debbie
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Speaker 2: was all like you, what was the word she used?
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Speaker 2: She said, you didn't empower us, you dismissed us. And
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Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty intense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you have that example, any other examples?
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Speaker 2: Oh no, that was the only moment of the episode,
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Speaker 2: Like that was the only moment of the episode that
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Speaker 2: got at all confrontational.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I'm saying I thought it was tame.
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Speaker 3: I thought anything that you don't need to be bullying
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Speaker 3: and mean to somebody. But I thought it was a
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Speaker 3: great moment to have a conversation about. Hey, you called
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Speaker 3: the last cast not that attractive. You said you wanted
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Speaker 3: to be an influencer. These are core things that The
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Speaker 3: Golden was never supposed to be about. Nicole, Why would
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Speaker 3: you say those things? Like at least we could have
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Speaker 3: gotten into.
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Speaker 2: That they should have had Kathy and Susan speak from
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Speaker 2: the audience.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, or Joe the one on the show. And Joan
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Speaker 3: came on the show and was very honest about her
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Speaker 3: feelings towards the comments made. And Joan is a very
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Speaker 3: kind and very thoughtful person who doesn't speak out on
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Speaker 3: this stuff very often. I don't know ash I. So
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Speaker 3: we had that moment and then honestly we kind of
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Speaker 3: get into mel. I mean, the ladies in general were
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Speaker 3: just like happy they were there. They love mel Mell,
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Speaker 3: You're so great.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's one more thing about Nicole. I think it
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Speaker 2: was because she wasn't very not she was not very
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Speaker 2: confrontational back, she wasn't really trying to defend herself. She
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Speaker 2: at one point said I'll do better. She's like, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: Do I think it's genuine? Like not really, but like
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Speaker 2: I think she had a good pr move or like
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Speaker 2: a good publicist talk to her.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like that's something that somebody
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Speaker 3: says to just dismiss the argument. It's my same concern
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Speaker 3: with like people these days being like I'm going to
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Speaker 3: do me or of course, like I'm going to be
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Speaker 3: persecuted and hated on my fr ideas like it's like no, like,
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Speaker 3: listen to why you're hurting people and respond with maybe
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Speaker 3: your reasoning, and then talk about like why you said
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Speaker 3: the things you said. I would have appreciated this moment more.
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Speaker 3: If Nicole was like, you know what, guys, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: want to be an influencer and I didn't mean all
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Speaker 3: the mean things like that would be so much like
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Speaker 3: clearer to me, and I'd be like, hey, at least
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Speaker 3: she's honest. You've done that your whole life. Ash. That's
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Speaker 3: one of the reasons I love you is you you
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Speaker 3: don't You're not mean to people. I think that's one
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Speaker 3: thing you have going your way. You're very kind human,
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Speaker 3: but you've never hidden this idea that you're like, no,
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Speaker 3: I want to be on TV, like really bad, Like
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Speaker 3: I love it. I love being on TV. I think
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Speaker 3: it's the at least I like, I respect it, and
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it, and I support you in your pursuit
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Speaker 3: of that because at least you're honest about it.
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Speaker 2: I'm not desperate about it. The opportunity comes to me,
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Speaker 2: I'll say yes.
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Speaker 3: I never said you're desperate. I never said you're for
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Speaker 3: with age.
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Speaker 2: I could take it or leave it.
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Speaker 3: It's not true.
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Speaker 2: I'll probably take it.
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Speaker 3: I tell you that. It's gonna say you found yourself
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Speaker 3: in the desert of Australia for nothing.
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Speaker 2: Hey, that was a lot of that was nothing. That
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Speaker 2: was a lot of cash.
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Speaker 3: I just I appreciate the honesty. I did not feel
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Speaker 3: like I got that. I'm gonna do better if every time. Actually,
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Speaker 3: you and I joked with each other, and I was
18:40
Speaker 3: just like, you're right, Actually I'll do better. It's like, well,
18:43
Speaker 3: the conversation is done, Like what are you going to
18:45
Speaker 3: say back? Like I don't believe you like you can.
18:47
Speaker 2: It's hard to say anything back to that. So she
18:49
Speaker 2: said the thing that gets people to back off.
18:52
Speaker 3: I know. It just frustrated me. I want to see more.
18:55
Speaker 3: I guess.
18:57
Speaker 2: All right. Well then we have Cheryl joined Jesse on stage.
19:01
Speaker 2: She gets emotional watching her tie back on the show.
19:04
Speaker 2: She doesn't there's not much to talk about here. She
19:07
Speaker 2: does have her son in the audience with her grandkids.
19:10
Speaker 2: That was cute, but I was also like, how did
19:12
Speaker 2: they hide this was there where they sit didn't have
19:14
Speaker 2: a whole time, and then did they take them out
19:16
Speaker 2: or would they take them out when she came on stage.
19:19
Speaker 2: They look pretty well settled. Is it really that much
19:21
Speaker 2: of a surprise to have your family in the audience?
19:24
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's the thing, is like, it's not
19:27
Speaker 3: that big of a surprise I had. I had buddies
19:30
Speaker 3: in the audience when I was on the show, Like,
19:32
Speaker 3: it's not my parents were, of course there. I would
19:34
Speaker 3: have loved that my grandparents. Yeah, I mean I freaking out.
19:37
Speaker 3: My parents' best friends who won you know, they're my
19:39
Speaker 3: pastor and his wife. Like they're like, I don't think
19:43
Speaker 3: it's that big a surprise, and it's something you want
19:45
Speaker 3: to share with people. It's a fun moment for these women,
19:49
Speaker 3: Like they're on live television and their families are getting
19:52
Speaker 3: to watch them talk on live television and dress up
19:54
Speaker 3: and like all beautiful and pretty. I think it's great
19:58
Speaker 3: that your family's there. I just don't think it's that
19:59
Speaker 3: big of surprise prize. It's not that like shock factor
20:03
Speaker 3: surprise that we've seen in the past.
20:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like I was like, Okay, calm down. Yeah,
20:12
Speaker 2: it's like hasn't been months in.
20:14
Speaker 3: Years, Like are you like you I don't know, you
20:16
Speaker 3: probably talked to him yesterday, Like.
20:18
Speaker 2: What we're just finding something to complain about.
20:24
Speaker 3: I know, well, because there isn't a lot here actually,
20:26
Speaker 3: so let's just talk about it. Honestly, there isn't a
20:29
Speaker 3: lot here to talk about. There's emotion watching a bag,
20:33
Speaker 3: Cheryl gets emotional, Debbie gets emotional, people are wishing more
20:37
Speaker 3: time with Mel. Mel comes out and the ladies just
20:41
Speaker 3: pretty much say how much they liked him, how great
20:44
Speaker 3: he was. There isn't any confrontation even after watching it back,
20:48
Speaker 3: being like hey, Mel, like did you actually ever want anybody?
20:51
Speaker 3: There was nothing that we've been asking And if you
20:53
Speaker 3: have a live show, my hope is that the show
20:59
Speaker 3: has listened to the view viewership enough to answer the
21:02
Speaker 3: questions that the viewers are asking. And I think there's
21:07
Speaker 3: very clear questions right now that the viewership is.
21:09
Speaker 2: Asking, why did you pick him?
21:11
Speaker 3: Why'd you pick him? Mel? Were you actually ever really
21:14
Speaker 3: that into this? Nicole? Why did you say you wanted
21:18
Speaker 3: to be an influencer? And why do you call the
21:21
Speaker 3: last cast not that attractive?
21:23
Speaker 2: They should have had Kathy and Susan host this chat.
21:27
Speaker 3: It would have been great. They would have said some
21:29
Speaker 3: weird stuff. I love them, They're great. They would have
21:31
Speaker 3: pulled everything out of everybody. They'd been like, no, not enough,
21:34
Speaker 3: and we didn't give you those vibrators for your Skyattica.
21:38
Speaker 3: We gave you those vibrators for other reasons.
21:42
Speaker 2: Also, if they have heard so many complaints about Mel,
21:46
Speaker 2: they could have used some of this time, if not
21:48
Speaker 2: the whole hour, Like I was saying, to show like
21:51
Speaker 2: a whole bunch more in depth moments with him, at
21:55
Speaker 2: least building up to some at least so that you
21:58
Speaker 2: could build up his the feelings you have towards him
22:01
Speaker 2: going into the finale, and also kind of defend their choice.
22:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:06
Speaker 2: Now I'm just left thinking you didn't have any footage.
22:10
Speaker 3: They didn't. I mean, that's the thought is like they
22:11
Speaker 3: could have. They kind of threw Mel into the bus
22:14
Speaker 3: during hometowns. You would think the live show could be
22:17
Speaker 3: the opportunity to kind of like bring him from the ashes,
22:19
Speaker 3: like rise him up and say, okay, no, this is
22:22
Speaker 3: the guy that we didn't show. Here's some funny moments
22:25
Speaker 3: with Mel. Here's some intimate moments with Mel. Here's some
22:28
Speaker 3: moments that we caught Mel crying in the corner when
22:31
Speaker 3: he didn't think cameras were around. We didn't see anything.
22:34
Speaker 3: And then he gets on stage, and I think, you know,
22:40
Speaker 3: it feels like okay, I mean Melby on stage, feels
22:45
Speaker 3: like what the season has felt like so far. It's
22:48
Speaker 3: saying the right things at the right moment. We're not
22:51
Speaker 3: saying anything at all, and saying them quickly and concisely
22:55
Speaker 3: and leaving a lot of room for interpretation. It doesn't
22:58
Speaker 3: get me fired up for this finale. It doesn't. And
23:02
Speaker 3: and so you know, you look at the way the
23:04
Speaker 3: show set this up. It's it's obviously planned. These people
23:08
Speaker 3: are professionals, and they have Jared Freed in the audience.
23:11
Speaker 2: Well, I'm down for Jared Freed to be there. He
23:15
Speaker 2: always makes me laugh. And I did really like that
23:17
Speaker 2: clip that they showed with him where they were showing
23:20
Speaker 2: all the one liners he was trying to give to Robin,
23:24
Speaker 2: and Robin didn't laugh at any of them. And that
23:26
Speaker 2: was like the most relatable moment because my mom wouldn't
23:30
Speaker 2: understand Jared's Freed Jared Fried's humor either, because he has
23:34
Speaker 2: the most millennial humor.
23:37
Speaker 3: I think he's hilarious. But again, what does it bring like?
23:40
Speaker 3: Did it? Did it make the show?
23:42
Speaker 2: It makes me laugh for a second?
23:45
Speaker 3: Okay, good, good, that's all we need. Yeah, I mean,
23:50
Speaker 3: he's funny, he is, and he's good on the show.
23:53
Speaker 3: He's good for the show. I just don't see like,
23:56
Speaker 3: out of everything they could have done here, that was
23:58
Speaker 3: like that was one of the big attempts. It just
24:02
Speaker 3: felt like like it just feels like we're we're not
24:06
Speaker 3: rising up. Here's my complaint. All these other shows are
24:11
Speaker 3: going on right now and they're crushing it new creative ideas,
24:15
Speaker 3: they're always rising to the occasion. The Bachelor has every
24:18
Speaker 3: opportunity to raise the occasion and compete with these new
24:21
Speaker 3: shows coming out, and it feels like, time after time
24:24
Speaker 3: again they just fall a little short. And it frustrates
24:27
Speaker 3: me because I believe in the show and I still
24:29
Speaker 3: think the show could be good. It could be good.
24:32
Speaker 2: I know the finale is actually two hours, So now
24:36
Speaker 2: I'm again being like, Okay, why didn't you just air
24:39
Speaker 2: our one of the finale, leave us on a good cliffhanger,
24:43
Speaker 2: and then do another hour.
24:45
Speaker 3: It'd be great. Yeah, I mean that that the finale
24:49
Speaker 3: is two hours, it has to have some context that
24:52
Speaker 3: we're not seeing, like it's gonna be dramatic, emotional, it's
24:56
Speaker 3: gonna pull our heartstrings, maybe a little bit. I am
24:59
Speaker 3: still holding up hope. Actually we have we have two
25:01
Speaker 3: hours left, and I'm holding out hope. At the end
25:03
Speaker 3: of the season helps us understand what we've been watching
25:08
Speaker 3: the for the last you know, eight to nine weeks. Yeah,
25:12
Speaker 3: do you agree?
25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I agree, But like I'm kind of
25:15
Speaker 2: hopeless at this point. To be honest, I'm just I'm
25:18
Speaker 2: not going to think that this engagement is going to
25:20
Speaker 2: last at all.
25:22
Speaker 3: Who do you think he gets engaged to.
25:24
Speaker 2: I think it's Cindy.
25:26
Speaker 3: I think it's Cindy too.
25:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And she'll be really happy. Yeah,
25:31
Speaker 2: and I'm really happy for her, But I'm really sad
25:34
Speaker 2: for when it's not necessarily going to work out. Maybe
25:39
Speaker 2: we know more, Maybe we don't know.
25:41
Speaker 3: Maybe we just don't know, We don't know enough. This
25:55
Speaker 3: is our tell all episode. Usually we feel like these
25:59
Speaker 3: are either so great or just miss the mark every
26:04
Speaker 3: season that they do this, but this is a tall
26:07
Speaker 3: episode of The Golden Bachelor. We got the previews for
26:12
Speaker 3: Antigua next week. Antigua's beautiful. We see some sweet dates,
26:18
Speaker 3: we see some sweet moments I don't exactly seet see
26:22
Speaker 3: the iconic moment that will make us be put on
26:27
Speaker 3: the edge of our seats and make this season memorable.
26:30
Speaker 3: I don't see it yet. I hope it's there.
26:32
Speaker 2: He's holding an engagement ring. I still in doubt that
26:36
Speaker 2: he's going to propose. This just doesn't seem like a
26:39
Speaker 2: man in love to me, and as we even saw
26:42
Speaker 2: last week, he said, like he's not there yet. So
26:45
Speaker 2: how do you go from being not being in love
26:47
Speaker 2: to being like, I'm going to get down on me. Yeah,
26:51
Speaker 2: you can't do that. You can't, you actually can't do that.
26:54
Speaker 3: See your vote is he doesn't get engaged at all
26:56
Speaker 3: at the end of this.
26:58
Speaker 2: I think the smart choice would be not to get engaged.
27:00
Speaker 2: I mean, I oftentimes say that this more Choyce would
27:03
Speaker 2: to not be engaged, but like, right now, like I
27:07
Speaker 2: actually don't even think he's like very much in lust
27:11
Speaker 2: because sometimes I think that like a lot of the
27:12
Speaker 2: leads are confused and they're like, oh, you know, bachelor
27:16
Speaker 2: bubble lust love, But there's something that I'm feeling intensely.
27:21
Speaker 2: I just like don't even think he's feeling intensely. So
27:23
Speaker 2: I think it's best for him not to do this.
27:26
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think they should go out of
27:28
Speaker 3: this and be a happy couple and try to make
27:30
Speaker 3: this work in the real world for as long as
27:31
Speaker 3: they can.
27:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know how my argument is as of
27:35
Speaker 2: last season, like you have your kids, just date.
27:41
Speaker 3: Just date, have a lot of fun, travel the world.
27:44
Speaker 3: Do you think Pegs are next Golden Bachelorette?
27:47
Speaker 2: She's cool, she's cool as a bachelorette. I think it
27:49
Speaker 2: would need to be Debbie, especially after the season. This episode, Yeah,
27:53
Speaker 2: this made me like this episode that that was a
27:56
Speaker 2: moment where I felt where I was just like, I'm
27:59
Speaker 2: really sad this lady's never been married, that's what she
28:01
Speaker 2: still really wants. And her wearing the white wedding dress.
28:05
Speaker 2: I was, I want a bachelorette who's never been married
28:10
Speaker 2: in her sixties.
28:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's beautiful. Let's hope for it. We're
28:15
Speaker 3: voting for Debbie. This has been the almost famous podcast.
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