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O'Brien & Doug Ep170 [October 26, 2023 Drugs Are Baad, Mmkay?] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_07: Ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_01: The Brian and Duck Podcast is brought to you in part by MojerMultimedia.com.
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SPEAKER_01: Game Music and Briscoe Main, the Ridge Runner in Westfield Main.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm my cousin.
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SPEAKER_00: Larry.
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unknown: Who?
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SPEAKER_01: Larry.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, Larry.
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SPEAKER_00: Is there anyone out there who still isn't clear about what doing drugs does?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Last time.
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SPEAKER_00: This is your brain.
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SPEAKER_00: This is drugs.
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SPEAKER_00: This is your brain on drugs.
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SPEAKER_00: Any questions?
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SPEAKER_01: Willcom.
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SPEAKER_01: Brilliant.
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SPEAKER_01: Brilliant.
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SPEAKER_01: So you don't think that sounds overmodulated?
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SPEAKER_01: Not really.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it does.
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SPEAKER_01: A little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: But that's okay.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm not Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank God.
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SPEAKER_12: Raise your hand if you're sick of hearing about Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_12: Oh my word.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my word.
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SPEAKER_01: It's.
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SPEAKER_12: Oh, that now I'm now I'm too quiet.
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SPEAKER_01: I turned you down because it's it's cut it's overmodulating.
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SPEAKER_01: When you talk loud.
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SPEAKER_12: But I'm not now I can barely hear myself.
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SPEAKER_12: How about that?
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SPEAKER_12: That's better.
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SPEAKER_01: That's better?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I I am so tired of it.
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SPEAKER_12: Did you see that?
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SPEAKER_12: Was it one of the uh InSync or Baxter Boys?
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SPEAKER_12: He was at a game and he he had a little handwritten side that said not Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Lance Bass.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, Lance Bass.
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SPEAKER_01: Lance Bass.
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SPEAKER_14: That was hilarious.
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SPEAKER_14: I did see that.
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SPEAKER_01: I did see that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, I don't know, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I just and and I don't want to take anything away from Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I like Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, no, I don't.
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SPEAKER_01: I like Taylor Swift's music.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I don't.
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SPEAKER_01: I like Taylor Swift's older music.
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SPEAKER_12: Apparently you don't like Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't dislike Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: I think she's very, very talented.
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SPEAKER_01: Somebody had posted something uh on X, formerly Twitter, um that said something to the effect of you're just gonna have to get over it that Taylor Swift belongs in the same category as Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, uh Elton John, and all these and all these legends.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_12: I will never accept that.
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SPEAKER_01: I d I understand their point.
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SPEAKER_01: Because she is iconic for the age.
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SPEAKER_01: She writes all of her songs.
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SPEAKER_12: I get that.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: But it doesn't matter if they all suck.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's subjective.
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SPEAKER_01: Because there are people that think Billy Joel sucks.
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SPEAKER_12: I don't know anybody that thinks Billy Joel sucks.
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SPEAKER_12: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Um or I know my aunt that lives uh down the road, actually, it's my wife's aunt.
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SPEAKER_01: Um she doesn't like the Beatles.
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SPEAKER_12: You should you should kick her out of the family immediately.
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SPEAKER_12: Be gone!
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: You're you're she she the the Beatles We have no more use for you! The Beatles are not her favorite.
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SPEAKER_12: She she's gonna be a little bit more than a lot you're not a fan of the Beatles, but you can't be like, Oh, they suck.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh no no, she never said that.
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SPEAKER_01: She just doesn't like them.
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SPEAKER_01: I kinda like what I say about Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, that's that's the way I feel about the Rolling Stones.
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SPEAKER_01: So Right.
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SPEAKER_01: You that that they suck?
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SPEAKER_12: Or they don't suck, but I don't really care for 'em.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: Just you know, a few songs here and there.
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SPEAKER_12: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: Their album was at Walmart.
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SPEAKER_01: I almost picked it up just for giggles.
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SPEAKER_01: Just to listen to it.
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SPEAKER_12: I think you can spend twenty bucks on something for funnier.
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SPEAKER_01: Funnier?
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SPEAKER_12: Maybe a Jim Gaffickin CD or something.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So um but I feel the same way about Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think she sucks, but it it's not my thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't like her.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I don't like her music.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't care for it.
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SPEAKER_01: Now you know, ten years ago, I didn't mind her music.
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SPEAKER_01: I and I don't know what was different.
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SPEAKER_01: Um was it before she jumped ship?
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_01: Um and I don't even care that she jumped ship.
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SPEAKER_12: You know, that's that's that's Darius Rucker.
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SPEAKER_12: I mean he jumped ship.
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SPEAKER_12: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: But he but he was you know, he was never really in the rock and roll boat anyway.
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SPEAKER_12: He was roots rock.
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SPEAKER_12: I mean he was, you know So going to country was really not a big change.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, but you know, he it was funny because um bef the f the first solo outing that Darius did was RB.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you and it didn't go anywhere.
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SPEAKER_12: Well yeah, because it wasn't really him.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: Well I didn't think.
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SPEAKER_12: It didn't feel like Jerry Shrucker.
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SPEAKER_01: I and I heard some of the RB album that he put out and it was good.
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SPEAKER_12: I mean it's but it didn't it didn't have that feel.
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SPEAKER_01: Right, because he's a southern boy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know, and South Carolina.
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SPEAKER_01: Speaking of that, um I picked it up the other day.
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SPEAKER_01: Where'd it go?
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SPEAKER_01: No, that's not it.
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SPEAKER_01: Where did it go?
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SPEAKER_01: I just wanted to show you that.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a new album.
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SPEAKER_01: Darius Rucker's got a new album.
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SPEAKER_12: I I didn't know about that.
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SPEAKER_01: Um The only thing I have a problem I have with Darius Rucker, we're jumping from topic to topic, is um the stuff that he's the country stuff that he's putting out, although he has some some pretty great you know singles, it's all um homogenized stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean it's all Why?
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SPEAKER_12: Because he's got two songs that have beer in the title?
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SPEAKER_12: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_12: I don't understand what you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: I just I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just uh and I l I loved Arias.
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SPEAKER_01: You know that.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, right.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh and I listened to the album and it's good.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying it's not good, um, but it's typical.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh it sounds like his other you know, his solo country albums, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't doubt that.
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SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_12: But he but that's I mean, he doesn't I mean he hasn't tried to turn himself into a global phenomenon.
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SPEAKER_01: This is true.
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SPEAKER_12: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_12: This is true.
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SPEAKER_01: He stole a he stole Do you think Taylor Swift tried to do that, or do you think she just was along for the ride?
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SPEAKER_12: I think I think I think her people did this.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: I don't think she's smart enough to think of all this herself.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I think she's a pretty smart cookie.
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SPEAKER_12: She may be.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: But that's because she's in league with Satan.
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SPEAKER_12: So I think I think, you know, some sort of musical demon whispered in her ear, hey, you should put out a movie and charge 1989 for adults and 1313 for kids.
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SPEAKER_01: Now that was her people that charged that, that that made that deal.
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SPEAKER_12: Her people.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: Quote unquote demons.
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SPEAKER_12: Um Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, that was I mean, I was just that was just ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_01: It was it was ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I'm just not.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, that's not the first movie that she's had.
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SPEAKER_01: She's had a documentary.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, she's had that.
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SPEAKER_12: She had that maricana or something.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, something like that.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, more power to her.
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SPEAKER_01: I just it I don't get it.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_12: I don't either.
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SPEAKER_12: I just there's so many people that are just like, oh, such a thrifty.
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SPEAKER_12: I was like, oh.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Like you said last week, it's a cult of personality.
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SPEAKER_12: Oh, it's such a cult of personality.
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SPEAKER_12: I mean, she's right up there with like Hitler and uh uh you know Pull Pot.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So FDR.
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SPEAKER_01: You saw my new pedal board.
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SPEAKER_01: You like that?
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SPEAKER_01: It is nice, it's huge, it's a monstrosity.
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SPEAKER_01: It is a monster, it's nice, it's gigantic.
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SPEAKER_12: It is dude, you know, if it if it was a little smaller, he could mass produce these and make some money.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean because it's sturdy.
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SPEAKER_01: So he came to me and he's he's like, I need a project for for shop class, and we were trying to think of something.
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SPEAKER_01: I took I gave him a couple ideas, and then I said, Oh, you know, I've I've got a couple of pedal boards here, and I've got too many pedals.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd love to have a pedal board that I can fit all my pedals on.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, Well, how many, how many do you want?
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, I don't know, like like all of them?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, as close to all of them as you can.
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SPEAKER_01: And so he measured.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, Oh, that'll take about like three feet, four, you know, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: And so he designed it.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's all wood.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not painted yet, but we're gonna we're gonna paint it something.
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SPEAKER_12: But you know, I think it's pretty cool, but it is I think I think I'm gonna take a picture of it and put it on our website so everybody can see this.
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SPEAKER_01: Do do that because well I think it's I think it's pretty.
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SPEAKER_01: Hold on, let me move this because disregard the mess in the background here because I've cropped most of it out.
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SPEAKER_12: Okay.
8:55
SPEAKER_12: Because I'm very good at this.
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SPEAKER_01: So um I'm a professional.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna put I told him, I said, dude, I'm gonna put all my pedals on it.
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SPEAKER_01: But when it comes time to play out with the band, I don't think I'm gonna bring this.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I mean you could.
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SPEAKER_01: It's gonna take up.
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SPEAKER_12: It's gonna be you know, we playing some pretty tight spaces.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: So, I mean, you know, I could see that, but it it it's it's a nice pedal board.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a nice design.
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SPEAKER_01: I like what he did with the with the with the slits for the cords and and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: I think I think it's it's gonna be cool.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I can't wait to get all my pedals on it, just to take a picture of that.
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SPEAKER_01: I know, it's gonna be awesome.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: And of course, Joko is gonna look at that and he's saying, Oh, dude, you got too many pedals.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, of course, Joko's gonna do that.
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SPEAKER_01: He's gonna say something like, you know, uh, you should uh downsize and get one of these um things that cost thirty five hundred dollars.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, these um these what do you call them?
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SPEAKER_01: The um fractal, you know, uh things that he uses.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Because he his pedal board is tiny now, I think.
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SPEAKER_01: I think he just uses uh a couple of um well there's a fractal.
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SPEAKER_01: I does he use a fractal?
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SPEAKER_12: I can't even remember.
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SPEAKER_12: I have no idea.
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SPEAKER_12: But he's a that above drummer talk.
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SPEAKER_01: I know he's endorsed by boss, so he gets like boss pedals for free, usually, I think.
10:16
SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, because he's a special one.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: He's a special one.
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SPEAKER_01: So I can't wait to get the get it painted and get my pedals on it, and uh just because I'm a gear freak, I buy stuff I don't even use.
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SPEAKER_12: It's pretty nice though, man.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm telling you what.
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SPEAKER_12: It is nice.
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SPEAKER_12: It's a nice design.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a nice design.
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SPEAKER_01: And and so if you're looking at the picture on our on our Facebook page.
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SPEAKER_12: How do you get pictures on here?
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SPEAKER_12: I'm stupid.
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SPEAKER_12: Post picture.
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SPEAKER_12: Where does it say that?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: You're on your phone, so I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh you're you're seeing this big box on the top.
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SPEAKER_01: So I have two line six stomp boxes that uh will fit on that box.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's why the box is there to keep those out of the way of the other pedals.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm uh I'm pretty pumped to uh see what it's gonna sound like and what it's gonna look like.
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SPEAKER_01: It's gonna look very more what it's gonna look like than sound like it's gonna look amazing, man.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_12: I have no doubt about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Same.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you figure it out?
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SPEAKER_12: I did.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_12: I'm typing a caption now.
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SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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SPEAKER_12: O'Brien's new handmade.
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SPEAKER_12: Handmade by his progeny.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so um I told, I said, uh, what are we gonna paint that?
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SPEAKER_01: I said, should we paint those Van Halen stripes?
11:38
SPEAKER_01: And my wife's like, no.
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SPEAKER_01: She said, do your own thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I said, I don't have my own thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: You need a thing.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: I need a thing.
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SPEAKER_12: I don't know what that thing is.
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SPEAKER_12: I don't either.
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SPEAKER_12: But you should you you should get a thing.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Color like a color sequence or something.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, yeah, I mean, like, you know, kind of like uh um, you know, whatever whatever trips your trigger.
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SPEAKER_12: And you know, get a night get it get something that really stands out.
12:12
SPEAKER_12: Because you remember your keyboard, it had like the lightning bolts on it.
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SPEAKER_01: That was not that was not my idea though.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I know, but I I'm just saying in that vein.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:20
SPEAKER_12: You not not in the lightning vein because there's nothing fast about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: Um or electric.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, it is kind of electric.
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SPEAKER_12: Right.
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SPEAKER_12: But uh, you know, you know, you know, just come up with a like, you know, your favorite colors and come up with a cool, you know, scheme and uh, you know, feng shui it.
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SPEAKER_01: So just a color scheme and some sort of design.
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SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could do that.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll figure that.
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SPEAKER_01: But then I'm gonna have to put it on everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Not just the pedalboard.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_12: I mean, like I say, it could be like your trademark.
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SPEAKER_12: You know, because Eddie's got the the striped things.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not in a place where I deserve a trademark, I don't think.
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SPEAKER_12: Well, you don't have to.
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SPEAKER_12: You can just do it.
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SPEAKER_12: What about it?
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SPEAKER_01: Just cause because it'd be cool.
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SPEAKER_12: This is America.
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SPEAKER_12: You can do whatever you want.
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SPEAKER_01: This is true.
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SPEAKER_12: Look at Taylor Swift.
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SPEAKER_12: Right?
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SPEAKER_12: Who?
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SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I think I have what this episode is all about, actually, now that we're moving on.
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SPEAKER_01: Are we moving on?
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna move on.
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SPEAKER_12: Are we?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think so.
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SPEAKER_12: I got other stuff to talk about.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, good.
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SPEAKER_12: Like I have stuff.
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SPEAKER_12: Like I have an agenda.
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SPEAKER_12: So Yeah, I d I don't think so.
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SPEAKER_01: Here, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So actually, let me do this first because we've got a couple uh couple uh pieces of new music to listen to.
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SPEAKER_12: We do?
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:38
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
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SPEAKER_01: Um very well, I'll allow it.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: The why is that?
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SPEAKER_12: Oh, do you want your Wrecker CD back?
13:46
SPEAKER_12: Oh yeah, sure.
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SPEAKER_12: Because it's very nice.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: It is very nice.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, by the way, Darius Wrecker's new album is called Carolyn's Boy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: Tom Petty.
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SPEAKER_12: Just his birthday last week.
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SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And Steve Lucas's birthday, too.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like 66, something like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Some now.
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SPEAKER_01: He's up there.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh two previously unreleased Tom Petty songs.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh they've been they've released uh What's the Matter with Louise and Mystery of Love.
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SPEAKER_01: Um Mystery of or What's the Matter with Louise is an Amazon exclusive marking his 73rd birthday.
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SPEAKER_01: Um from the Tom Petty uh Somewhere You Feel Free, The Making of Wildflowers.
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SPEAKER_01: It's also being released on Amazon Prime Video, which I watched, which is pretty good.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh so let's just listen to that one.
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SPEAKER_01: What's the matter with Louise?
14:36
SPEAKER_01: Because the other one, uh, well, I'll get to that first.
14:40
SPEAKER_01: So I just want to sample what's the matter with Louise.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: This is an Amazon exclusive.
15:58
SPEAKER_01: So, what I like about Tom Petty, one of the things I like about Tom Petty is his embrace of old rock and roll.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: He always has.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: But it seemed more later in his career, instead of looking forward, he started to look back at at older music and kind of create music that's had that sound.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, he had his uh his Sirius XM thing, uh, was it Buried Treasures?
16:32
SPEAKER_01: Where he played old and it's still there, I think.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: I think so, yeah.
16:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, somebody's still running it.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Um but like old garage band type stuff, you know.
16:41
SPEAKER_01: Um he was a big fan of like Del Shannon.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: He produced one of Del Shannon's records.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: It's like that old rock and roll from the 50s and 60s.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: And that's what that sounds like to me.
16:52
SPEAKER_01: And the other thing I I appreciate about um Tom Petty is it you you get the sense that when he's writing a song like that, he just doesn't give a crap.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: He's just making stuff up.
17:07
SPEAKER_12: Well, why would he?
17:08
SPEAKER_12: Right, that's what I'm saying.
17:08
SPEAKER_12: Tom Petty Yeah, yeah.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like effortless.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: You know, he's got this he's got this chord change going, and he's dun dun g-dun g d dun g d dun and he's just like, what's the matter with Louise?
17:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, I can't I can't go out with her because I'm not sure.
17:24
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I mean I mean the lyrics aren't like you know super complicated, it's more like a conversation.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: Right.
17:30
SPEAKER_01: But it probably came in the in the the length of s of the song is three minutes, he probably wrote it in five.
17:37
SPEAKER_12: Oh, probably, yeah.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean he just started making stuff up and writing it in and writing it down.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: Um and and the reason I say he started going back is because I listened to this next one, uh Mystery of Love.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: They're re-releasing uh the album that came out in 2010 called Mojo.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: And if you if you look at some of the promotion for the re-release, uh Ben Monttench and Mike Campbell, uh two members of the Heartbreakers, were talking about how he was leaning uh Tom Petty in the later years was leaning more towards blues.
18:14
SPEAKER_01: Um and so this song, Mystery of Love, I mean, you tell me, like, let's listen to this.
18:27
SPEAKER_12: Oh, yeah.
19:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I just the guy really could do no wrong.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if i Tom Petty was consistent, if nothing else.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean he he it was effortless, or at least it appeared effortless for him.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: And um, like I said, it just seemed like he didn't care.
19:56
SPEAKER_12: No, I don't think he did.
19:58
SPEAKER_12: He just did what he wanted to do.
20:00
SPEAKER_12: Um He wasn't beholden to anybody to you know come up with you know, oh we need a number one hit, Tom.
20:08
unknown: Right.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think he was early on, and that's why he had such a um a hate relationship.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say love-hate relationship, but no, he hated his hate-hate.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: He hated his label.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, and and the way they did things and and yeah, and always did.
20:23
SPEAKER_01: I think every label he was on, he was it was a very contentious relationship.
20:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure, yeah.
20:28
SPEAKER_01: Um so uh so there's that.
20:30
SPEAKER_01: A couple of Tom Petty songs.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: Now uh another uh artist just released uh something, and this is this is where I I want to bring this out because I think this is the theme of of the next little part of the podcast.
20:43
SPEAKER_03: So this is you shouldn't do drugs.
20:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh if you do them, you're bad because drugs are bad, okay?
20:51
SPEAKER_03: It's a bad thing to do drugs, so don't be bad by doing drugs, okay.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay from South Park, because uh, well, I'll just start playing the song.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: You tell me who you think it is.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: I should preface this by saying there's some profanity in the song.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: Don't let the kids listen.
21:24
SPEAKER_17: Oh that's uh uh kill.
21:46
SPEAKER_16: That's the chicken kill catch me.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
21:57
SPEAKER_01: I I think um The song is called The Shit That Killed Elves.
22:03
SPEAKER_11: Okay.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: And apparently it originated from a stage musical that Roth was working on several years ago with John Five.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Because remember John Five John Five was really excited about some of the songs that they had written.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: Um it's called Somewhere Over the Rainbow Bar and Grill, and it was designed as a jukebox musical after seeing what the South Park fellows did.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: Um and it's funny that I I they were talking about South Park, and I just played that clip.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: I didn't even put that together.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Um but this was the musical has been abandoned, I guess, and they just released this song.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: And I just think I hear things like this, and although I think David Le Roth is one of Rock's greatest frontmen.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: And actually, I have a lot of respect for his lyric writing.
23:02
SPEAKER_12: But I hear things like this, and I think boys, it's a good thing he had any Van Halen to Yeah, I mean I mean he had if he had never been in Van Halen, we would never be here again.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: I think that's true.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: Um because like I said, he was he b Van Halen was the was the um foundation and the writer of the music, and Roth was the mouth that wrote the words and and put on the show.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Right uh w without any even some of Roth's uh solo stuff I mean it's where it's out there.
23:45
SPEAKER_12: I mean, if if you think about Roth's solo stuff you think of uh Justin Jiggle, which was a cover.
23:55
SPEAKER_12: Yep.
23:55
SPEAKER_12: Um California Girls.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: California Girls, which is a cover.
23:59
SPEAKER_12: I mean for original stuff?
24:02
SPEAKER_12: Maybe Yankee Rose.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: Yankee Rose, um skyscraper, the for the skyscraper.
24:08
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, the skyscraper, yeah.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: You know, but I don't I I don't know who had a hand in in in I mean, did he write all of those?
24:15
SPEAKER_12: He may have co-written them?
24:18
SPEAKER_01: Well that's what I'm saying.
24:19
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I don't think he wrote them all, you know, solo.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: Right.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: So because he was always dependent on great guitar players.
24:28
SPEAKER_12: Well, I mean, yeah, after you love Van Halen, he hooks up with Steve Vai.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: Steve Vai and then uh J Jason Becker.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, you know, who was who was uh uh an amazing guitar player, still is an amazing musician, but he's got ALS.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: He's been in a wheelchair most of his life, actually.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Um so let's see.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: Skyscraper, all songs written by David Lee Roth and Steve Vai.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: Unless otherwise noted.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Uh so Just Like Paradise was written by Roth and a guy named Brett Tuggle.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I mean, how much did actually Brett Tuggle had a lot to do with with uh with this album as well.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, how much of that is just Dave writing the lyrics?
25:14
SPEAKER_12: Hard to tell.
25:15
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
25:15
SPEAKER_12: Hard to tell with Dave.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: So I just, you know, I don't know where that guy's head is at, and I never have, and I guess I'm gonna stop trying to figure it out.
25:23
SPEAKER_12: I don't think you can.
25:24
SPEAKER_12: I I think it's like, you know, just like trying to figure out uh, you know, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tooksie pop.
25:31
SPEAKER_01: How many does it take?
25:32
SPEAKER_12: How many hangs how many licks does it take to get to the center of David Lee Roth?
25:35
SPEAKER_12: I never want to know.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: Hold on a second.
25:38
SPEAKER_12: I never want to know that answer.
25:40
SPEAKER_12: None.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay, now uh along with that theme.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: You shouldn't do drugs, is this from UltimateClassicRock.com.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: Now I want to go over this because I listened to some of these.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: And maybe you I don't know if you've seen it or not.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: Doubt it.
25:54
SPEAKER_01: This article from Ultimate Classic Rock is by Nick Doriso.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: And oh Nick and I go way back.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm I'm giving Nick credit because Nick is one of those uh I guess.
26:07
SPEAKER_01: Is he the Nick at night guy?
26:09
SPEAKER_01: What would you call these guys that write these articles for Ultimate Classic Rock?
26:12
SPEAKER_01: A journalist?
26:13
SPEAKER_01: Or no, not not journalists.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Staff writers?
26:17
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
26:17
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: But I've always remember one time um we went over, we read something from Ultimate Classic Rock, and it was just really well written and funny and you know, they do that every once in a while.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: I think Nick is is one of those guys that does that because this is called the worst classic rock songs.
26:36
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: Like the worst classic rock songs.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Now again, this is subjective.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: These are Nick's this is Nick's opinion.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: And some of most of them I agree with.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: Most oh actually, most of them.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna go through all of them because there's a lot.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: Um so you can go to ultimate classicrock.com and look for this article.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, but there are only a couple that I don't agree with.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I I it's not necessarily that I agree with them, it's that they're probably really bad, but I like 'em.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
27:06
SPEAKER_01: So uh I'm not gonna do um he has um ACDC's Night of the Long Knives from 1981's for those about to rock.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna play it because it's it sounds like A C D C.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's the same I've been doing the same thing ever since.
27:23
SPEAKER_12: Right.
27:23
SPEAKER_12: I mean, no, yeah.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Aerosmith, My Fist, Your Face.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh he says it's difficult to determine what, if anything, this song is actually about, but by the end the title sentiment is certainly shared.
27:32
SPEAKER_12: Well, that was pre-getting sober.
27:35
SPEAKER_12: Yes, it was.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, okay, that's my own.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, so this one from Welcome to My Nightmare, uh, a release in 2011.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: This is Alex Alice Cooper Ghoul's Gone Wild.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Now, it is he says a song this cartoonish should have really ended with the mystery machine kids pulling up to unmask Alice Cooper.
27:58
SPEAKER_12: That'd be funny.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now I agree it's not a great song, but I like it.
28:12
SPEAKER_08: We're gonna have the bad, we're glad you finally got it.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Don't think he's trying to be serious.
28:39
SPEAKER_12: I think it's I don't yeah, I mean, but I mean Alice Cooper's kind of a he's a sh he's He's a cartoonish guy anyway.
28:46
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, exactly.
28:46
SPEAKER_12: I mean he's a he's a character.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: Right.
28:48
SPEAKER_12: I mean Alice Cooper's not even his real name.
28:50
SPEAKER_12: Exactly.
28:51
SPEAKER_12: So I mean, you know, it's it's a character.
28:52
SPEAKER_12: And and this is part of his shtick.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and when he's talking, when he's doing interviews and stuff, he talks about Alice in the third person.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's right.
29:00
SPEAKER_12: So I mean, you know, I d you know, I mean, uh, there's a lot of Alice Cooper songs that I like.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
29:06
SPEAKER_12: And uh, you know, I just take it with a grain of salt because it's they're not terribly complicated songs.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: Right.
29:12
SPEAKER_12: But they're fun.
29:13
SPEAKER_12: School's out, you know, poison.
29:16
SPEAKER_12: I love I love that song.
29:17
SPEAKER_12: Sure, yeah, me too.
29:18
SPEAKER_12: Stuff like that, you know.
29:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh, speaking of that, did you ever not that we're gonna we're gonna get off off topic here.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: That's what we do here.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so did you know uh speaking of that song, Poison by Alice Cooper, actually let me let me let me do this because it'll be easier to uh talk about what I'm to illustrate what I'm talking about.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: So let's go, I'm gonna go to Alice Cooper, because I think I have that song.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh where is what else?
29:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right there.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
29:52
SPEAKER_01: So obviously this is the song that we're talking about.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: Great song.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Awesome song.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: Love that song.
30:32
SPEAKER_07: In these days, the one rose.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: John Waite.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Ah, the guy that sings Missing You.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: This is a song called Encircled.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: Now, if I read correctly, um again, we again we're off on a tangent.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Um the song was originally John Waite's, or they I want to find the history of this.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh Poison is a song by Alice Cooper, written by Cooper producer Desmond Challenge, and guitarist John McCurry.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: The song was released as a single from uh the album Trash back in uh 1989.
31:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
31:16
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: The song's main riff was written by guitarist John McCurry, uh, who two years earlier had used it for the John Wade track, Encircled.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: So he's together with John Wade and whoever is with him, and they're working on the song.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: So he comes up with this riff.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: And so they make this song, Encircled.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: So two years later, he's writing with Desmond Child and Alice Cooper and he says, Oh, I have this riff.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: I used it for another song, but we can use it here.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, is that can you do that?
32:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I suppose if if he wrote the riff, so why not?
32:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's only he's only ripping himself off.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: Right, but that doesn't that song doesn't that riff that's where I I don't know.
32:17
SPEAKER_12: It's similar, it's not exactly.
32:19
SPEAKER_01: Right, no, it's true.
32:20
SPEAKER_01: That's true, it's not.
32:21
SPEAKER_12: It's similar, yeah.
32:21
SPEAKER_12: But it's not exactly.
32:22
SPEAKER_12: So I mean, and it's it it's a riff he came up with, so why not?
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I suppose.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not like you know and and I don't know that Encircled was ever like released as a single or anything.
32:32
SPEAKER_12: I don't that was the first time I'd ever heard that song.
32:34
SPEAKER_12: So I mean, I don't know, so I don't think it's a big deal.
32:38
SPEAKER_12: Okay, so good.
32:39
SPEAKER_12: On with the show.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: As long as you don't think it's a big deal.
32:42
SPEAKER_12: Well, you know, what I think is paramount to anything that's going on, so I mean, yeah.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: Alright, so this next song, one of the worst classic rock songs, is from 1968.
33:03
SPEAKER_04: I had to fix a lot of things this morning, cause they were so scrambled, but now it's okay.
33:12
SPEAKER_04: I tell you I've got enough to do.
33:18
SPEAKER_04: The afternoon was filled up with phone calls, what a hot sticky day.
33:33
SPEAKER_03: Take all the time you need a lovely night.
33:37
SPEAKER_03: If you decide to come, you're gonna do it right.
33:41
SPEAKER_03: Drive for a couple miles.
33:44
SPEAKER_03: You see a sign and turn left for a couple blocks.
33:48
SPEAKER_03: Next is mine, you'll turn left for little roof.
33:52
SPEAKER_12: I think this is jig against the Geneva Convention.
33:55
SPEAKER_12: So Dude, that's the Beach Boys.
33:58
SPEAKER_01: It is now Beach Boys, a song called Busy Doin' Nothing.
34:03
SPEAKER_12: And there's a lot going on in that song.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: The second verse of this uh appropriately named cut is nothing more than the directions to Brian Wilson's house.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: That's funny.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: Alright, so that was terrible.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: So Beatles Freak.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: Um there is a Beatles song on here.
34:24
SPEAKER_12: Ah, I can't wait to hear.
34:26
SPEAKER_12: If it's Revolution number nine, I agree.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: He says, You might have expected Revolution 9, but that but is that really even a song?
34:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get it.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: He's got a point.
34:38
SPEAKER_01: But it is, I believe it's from the same same album.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: From the white album?
34:43
SPEAKER_01: No, it's well, yeah, I think it's the from the white album.
34:47
SPEAKER_12: Oh, yeah.
34:48
SPEAKER_12: This is from the white album.
34:49
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
34:49
SPEAKER_12: Wild Honey Pie.
34:50
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it's a terrible song.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad.
35:00
SPEAKER_12: Drugs are bad.
35:00
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
35:03
SPEAKER_12: This was this was the height of drug taking in the Beatles.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so this one I disagree with.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Um I love this song.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: So 1973.
35:26
SPEAKER_12: I wonder if you've ever heard this.
35:47
SPEAKER_01: Do you know this song?
35:48
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Not a clue.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: It's technically his second album, but many consider it his first album.
35:59
SPEAKER_13: Okay.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: It is.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Billy the Kid.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't think I've ever heard this.
36:23
SPEAKER_01: Such an awesome song.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: His his write-up was Billy the Kid was an actual person.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Basically none of this happened to him.
36:32
SPEAKER_08: East and West of the real life.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, you can't call this a bad song.
36:54
SPEAKER_12: Maybe I mean I it kinda reminds me of uh scenes from Italian restaurant.
37:00
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it's a story song.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: The word spread of Billy the Kid.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: I love that song.
37:11
SPEAKER_12: I don't think it's a bad song.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Um from 1976.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: This is Black Sabbath.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: And his write-up is it's from Technical Ecstasy back in 76.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: It's called It's Alright.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: And his write-up is not generally a good idea to have Bill Ward sing.
37:42
SPEAKER_17: Where to go in?
37:45
SPEAKER_17: Where to sing?
37:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't mind his voice, actually.
37:48
SPEAKER_12: Actually, pretty good.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: So, and there's a song I hadn't, and a lot of these I've never heard before.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: So, so um Bob Dylan's album uh from 1970, Self-Portrait.
38:03
SPEAKER_01: Uh, there's a song on there called All the Tired Horses.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: After listening to this, it isn't hard to understand why Greel Marcus opened his original review of Self-Portrait with these immortal words.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: And forgive me.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: What is this shit?
38:18
SPEAKER_02: All the tired horses in the sun.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm supposed to get it ride done.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: All the tired horses in the sun.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's a minute and seventeen of just that.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: That's the song.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: No Bob Dylan on it at all.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: But that's a track.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: That's a track on the album.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: All the tired horses.
38:44
SPEAKER_12: No wonder I made the list.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: Um Social Disease from Bon Jovi's Slippery When Wet is on this list.
38:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: It's an okay song.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't know that if I say it's the worst classic rock song.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: No.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, however, this one, I don't know.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: Let's see here.
39:08
SPEAKER_03: Once upon a time.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: There was a god.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: I have to say, looking at your face when I play these songs is so fun.
39:26
SPEAKER_03: What am I listening to?
39:33
SPEAKER_03: There the sun game.
39:37
SPEAKER_03: Is it staying out of tune on purpose?
39:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's on purpose, but you're right, it is off key.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: That's David Crosby.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: And it's the birds.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: Mind games.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, excuse me, Mind Gardens.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: And Crosby once happily described Mind Gardens as a song with no time, no meter, no rhymes, and it's sung freestyle over a lot of backwards guitar.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: That's the problem.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Ah, I hear it now.
40:13
SPEAKER_03: But there came wind.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Remember, drugs are bad.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad, kids.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here's a band I like, and I never paid attention to this song.
41:09
SPEAKER_01: This is from 1980.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: It's called High Priest of Rhythmic Noise.
41:15
SPEAKER_01: It's from Cheap Tricks All Shook Up album.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Ah.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: The write-up is the vocoder is a useful tool for voice encryption, speech synthesis, and dance songs.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, none of those things apply here.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: What are they what is going on?
41:37
SPEAKER_12: Oh my word, that is crazy.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: Something even more funny to me is this one.
41:46
SPEAKER_01: Another band I love.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I guess that's who it is.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: Chicago?
42:06
SPEAKER_01: It is.
42:07
SPEAKER_12: It sounds like Chicago.
42:17
SPEAKER_12: Kinda sounds like uh Bobby.
42:24
SPEAKER_01: It's actually Peter Zotera.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: Is that Peter Zotera?
42:27
SPEAKER_01: It says, that's what it says.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: It says, yes, that's Peter Zotera.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: No idea why he's using this voice, which he even named PC Mobbly.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: What album is this offer?
42:39
SPEAKER_01: Is this post Terry Kath?
42:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's from 13, 79.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think so.
42:44
SPEAKER_12: Oh, that's post-terry cath.
42:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna do a couple.
42:53
SPEAKER_12: Well, I mean, the song itself isn't bad.
42:54
SPEAKER_12: I agree.
42:55
SPEAKER_12: But the the singing is weird.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:58
SPEAKER_12: I don't know what he was thinking.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna play a couple more here and then we can we'll move on.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: Um there's another one that I don't agree with, but this one.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, for those who always wondered what a meandering, jarringly mockish exploration of a bad LSD trip would sound like in Graham Nash's hands.
43:17
SPEAKER_01: This is 1977 Cathedral by Crosby Stills and Nash.
43:21
SPEAKER_12: I'm seeing a trend here, though.
43:22
SPEAKER_12: A lot of these come from the seventies.
43:24
SPEAKER_12: Right, drugs are drugs are bad, man.
43:28
SPEAKER_05: Six o'clock in the morning, I feel pretty good.
43:34
SPEAKER_05: So I dropped into the luxury of the lords, fighting dragons and crossing swords with the people against the heart you came to conquer.
43:50
SPEAKER_05: What is he talking about?
43:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
43:53
SPEAKER_05: Seven o'clock in the morning.
43:59
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
44:23
SPEAKER_12: We guess it's eight o'clock.
44:33
SPEAKER_05: Sunlight pouring through the break of days.
44:39
SPEAKER_05: This is the stumble through the darkness.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: This is the meandering part.
44:45
SPEAKER_05: There's a baby setting flower table.
44:52
SPEAKER_13: What do you say?
44:55
SPEAKER_05: There's a baby setting flower table of carpet lace.
45:01
SPEAKER_05: Carpet lace?
45:05
SPEAKER_05: Finds a cobweb on her face.
45:09
SPEAKER_05: And a feet inside.
45:12
SPEAKER_01: Tell her this can be a cobweb on her face.
45:22
SPEAKER_01: Weird sock.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: Goodness.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: Speaking of weird, oh my gosh.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: Um see if you can see if you can guess who this is.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: The name of the song is chant of the ever-circling skeletal family.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: From 1974's Diamond Dogs, David Bowie.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: Again.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: 70s.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Here's his write-up.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: David Bowie was considering a musical adaptation of George Orwell's 1984.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: Here's a really good argument against that.
46:27
SPEAKER_12: What the frig, man?
46:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh right, so this one I don't agree with.
46:32
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: Now it's I think it's one of their more campy songs on this album.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: But actually, what's this write-up say?
46:40
SPEAKER_01: Um It was surprising when they later said this was an attempt to sound like the Rolling Stones.
46:48
SPEAKER_01: Especially, you'd imagine, to the Rolling Stones.
47:12
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, this is Def Leopard from Hysteria and those two chuckles.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: I love the song.
47:17
SPEAKER_12: It's not one of my favorites, but I don't hate it.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: Like again, it's not it's a campy no.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: Maybe this is the Rolling Stones part.
47:37
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not my favorite song on the album, but it's not, I still love it.
47:41
SPEAKER_12: It's not bad.
47:42
SPEAKER_12: I like the chorus.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me too.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: Which they don't get to like until two minutes into the song.
47:54
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, well, it takes forever to get there.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Uh you can't I'm sorry, you can't really do No, that's not true.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say you can't really go wrong with Def Leopard, but you can.
48:03
SPEAKER_12: You can.
48:04
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I mean, you know, they're not perfect.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Right.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: I just want one or two more.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: Um I want to do something.
48:19
SPEAKER_10: Well, just his write-up.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: This is Emerson Lake and Palmer, the title cut from their 78 album, Love Beach, and his write-up just simply says.
49:14
SPEAKER_07: Love Beach, isn't this um schools?
49:19
unknown: I pass the way to you.
49:21
SPEAKER_01: Love Beach.
49:22
SPEAKER_12: Emerson Lincoln Palmer.
49:23
SPEAKER_12: Emerson Lake and Palmer, yeah.
49:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I yeah.
49:26
SPEAKER_01: Did you say that earlier?
49:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sorry.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
49:30
SPEAKER_01: Uh so let's see.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm just looking ahead.
49:34
SPEAKER_01: The heart, all I want to do is make love to you on here.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: I get it.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: It's I I get it.
49:40
SPEAKER_12: I like the song, but it's yeah, it's kind of out of character for them.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: From a nightmare on Elm Street 5, the Dream Child, you have this one.
49:51
SPEAKER_01: Iron Maiden took the assignment a little too literally when asked to contribute a song to the soundtrack.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: Bring your daughter to the slaughter.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
50:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: Alright, I'm gonna I'm gonna end with this next one.
50:18
SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll move on after this next one.
50:19
SPEAKER_01: Um, and this oh this one also I want you to cover your kids' ears.
50:23
SPEAKER_01: But this is, you know, drunks are bad, um, but also a sense of humor, uh, if you will.
50:31
SPEAKER_01: This is Joe Walsh.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: I L B Ts.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: I dot L dot B dot T's.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
50:50
unknown: Uh-huh.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: I think we should cover this actually.
50:53
SPEAKER_01: We're playing Saturday, we should do this song.
50:55
unknown: I like big ts.
50:59
SPEAKER_01: Shouldn't be that hard.
51:05
SPEAKER_01: It's like, I don't I don't I see them on the street left and right.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: I like big tests.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
51:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you're in the studio, obviously you're smoking something.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: Let's do that.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, it's Joe Walsh.
51:17
SPEAKER_12: I mean, he was famous for this.
51:20
SPEAKER_12: So, you know.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: I totally get it.
51:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that's just a snapshot of some of these uh songs that are on here.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: Um there's some songs from Judas Priest, some Journey, some John Mellencamp, um, that are great songs.
51:35
SPEAKER_12: I well How many songs are on this list?
51:38
SPEAKER_12: A lot.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: And I haven't I've not even gotten to the bottom.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: Um just some of the write-ups.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: Like Kiss.
51:45
SPEAKER_01: Kiss in Time from 1974.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: Kiss's willingness to do just about anything for money, even this, was actually confirmed very early on.
51:53
SPEAKER_01: Um Boogie with Stew from Legend Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti, originally and apparently more precisely titled Sloppy Drunk.
52:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, oh, here we go.
52:07
SPEAKER_01: I'll do the I will land on this one only because I'm thinking of you.
52:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh hey, let's try rap metal.
52:15
SPEAKER_01: Or new metal.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: Or both.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: Metallica.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: It's from St.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: Anger.
52:27
SPEAKER_01: It's called My World.
52:29
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
52:34
SPEAKER_12: I hate to tell you this.
52:35
SPEAKER_12: It's one of the better songs on the album.
52:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, I know.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I didn't mind St.
52:40
SPEAKER_01: Anger, and there's a couple, there's like one or two other ones that I don't mind.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: But the rest of the album is that snare sound.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: I can't stand it.
52:56
SPEAKER_12: Well, it's it sounds like he's hitting a trash can.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: Right.
52:58
SPEAKER_08: So make me someone else instead.
53:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just thought there was a whole whole period there of Metallica.
53:12
SPEAKER_12: Well, they were in a state of flux.
53:16
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it was it was not a good era, but frankly, they've come back.
53:20
SPEAKER_12: They've bounced back.
53:21
SPEAKER_01: Yes, they've redeemed themselves for sure.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: But I think, you know, the the um stanza, if you will, the the essence of all of this that we just talked about is drugs are bad! Drugs are bad.
53:36
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad, okay?
53:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
53:39
SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, there's that.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: Do you have your um yearbook over there?
53:44
SPEAKER_01: I do.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: Let's do that.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: It's time to read from the Metal Legends Alphabet.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: And we are on W.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: Letter.
53:57
SPEAKER_01: Are we on W?
53:58
SPEAKER_12: Because we did Venom Letter.
54:00
SPEAKER_12: Oh, that's right.
54:06
SPEAKER_12: We're good!
54:07
SPEAKER_01: So let's see.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to say that would be like it would be like uh Warlock.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
54:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh Wasp?
54:23
SPEAKER_01: It is Wasp.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: Is it Wasp?
54:25
SPEAKER_01: It is.
54:25
SPEAKER_01: What does Wasp stand for?
54:27
SPEAKER_01: I think I knew it one time.
54:28
SPEAKER_12: We are Satan's people.
54:31
SPEAKER_12: I I don't think that's it.
54:32
SPEAKER_12: I don't think that's it.
54:33
SPEAKER_12: I maybe it'll say here in the in the write-up, but I doubt it.
54:36
SPEAKER_12: Uh W is for Wasp.
54:38
SPEAKER_12: W A S P.
54:40
SPEAKER_12: These classic West Coast metal heads formed in Los Angeles in 1982.
54:45
SPEAKER_01: What?
54:45
SPEAKER_01: I want to get you some music.
54:46
SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay, my bad.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: No, that's okay.
54:48
SPEAKER_01: Um I want to get you some background music while you're while you're reading it.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: So let's, yeah, let's oh I think this is their biggest one.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: So Wild Child.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: Alright, go ahead.
54:59
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
55:00
SPEAKER_12: These classic West Coast metalheads formed in Los Angeles in 1982 and still rock 40 years on.
55:07
SPEAKER_12: Known for their wild antics and shocking lyrics, they infamously fought back against the Parent Music Resource Center, PMRC, a group who targeted risque music with their single Harder Faster.
55:23
SPEAKER_01: Aha.
55:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to look look them up.
55:29
SPEAKER_01: But I get like any member of a group of insects in the order.
55:34
SPEAKER_12: Of course, yeah.
55:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see, Wasp band.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: Because I want to find out.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't really say.
55:40
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not We Are Satan's people, right?
55:42
SPEAKER_12: I don't think so.
55:43
SPEAKER_12: I I would be really surprised if it wasn't.
55:45
SPEAKER_01: Let me find out.
55:46
SPEAKER_12: Because it is a it is a it's an acronym for something.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:50
SPEAKER_01: Um history, let's see.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: Wasp wasping and following the demise of Circus Circus.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh it doesn't tell me what Wasp stands for.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm not gonna I'm not gonna spend time reading this article.
56:21
SPEAKER_01: I thought it would say it like right at the beginning.
56:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh, right here.
56:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
56:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh there's been much speculation over the origin of the band's name and whether it actually stands for anything since it is written as an acronym.
56:31
SPEAKER_01: One possible interpretation is White Anglo-Saxon Protestants being the original meaning of the acronym.
56:38
SPEAKER_01: The song Show No Mercy, the B-side of the band's first single, Animal, contains the repeated lyric White Anglo-Saxon, a violent reaction.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: Um the original U.S.
56:50
SPEAKER_01: release of the band's debut album had the words We Are Sexual Perverts inscribed on both sides around the label in the center, while Winged Assassins is inscribed on the spine of the first vinyl pressing.
57:05
SPEAKER_01: When asked about the band's name, Blackie Lawless has avoided giving a straight answer.
57:09
SPEAKER_01: In one interview, he answered, We ain't sure pal.
57:15
SPEAKER_01: So uh there really is no answer for what uh Wasp stands for.
57:22
SPEAKER_12: Guess we'll never know.
57:24
SPEAKER_01: I guess we'll never know.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: And I guess, you know, if I cared more, I'd investigate it even further, but I don't.
57:30
SPEAKER_12: Nah, but I'm not a big Wasp fan.
57:31
SPEAKER_01: Nah, nor am I.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: Nor am I.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: And I I don't know that I would put them in a Metal Legends book either.
57:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think they've I don't know that I'd call them legendary.
57:43
SPEAKER_12: Not really.
57:44
SPEAKER_12: Would you?
57:45
SPEAKER_12: Quirky.
57:46
SPEAKER_12: Quirky.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
57:47
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
57:48
SPEAKER_01: Good word.
57:48
SPEAKER_12: Definitely on the fringe of I think they're just it's just the longevity of the band.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: I think so too.
57:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and that's but that's because that says a lot.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, they're still around.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, so there you go.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: Let's close that up.
58:02
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58:03
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58:07
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SPEAKER_01: Lyra! That was overmodulated.
59:16
SPEAKER_01: That was a little bit.
59:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's okay.
59:19
SPEAKER_01: They're used to it.
59:20
unknown: Oh.
59:21
SPEAKER_12: These guys are still on.
59:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh let's see.
59:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
59:28
SPEAKER_01: It's time to climb the wall of dunes.
59:30
SPEAKER_01: But while I do that, what are you what are you gonna do?
59:33
SPEAKER_12: Well, I'm gonna read out of your fancy uh log and timber home living catalog here.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
59:38
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
59:39
SPEAKER_12: There was an interesting article I saw earlier.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: Because that's my ultimate dream is to have a log home, like a long home.
59:46
SPEAKER_12: I like this.
59:48
SPEAKER_12: I like this title caught my eye.
59:50
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
59:51
SPEAKER_12: The would you choose.
59:54
SPEAKER_12: Read into it what you will.
59:57
SPEAKER_12: Okay, hold on.
59:58
SPEAKER_01: Um while you do that, while you read that, I'm gonna go and look, I'm gonna climb the wall.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_12: So I guess it's a bunch of like, you know.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_12: You know, it's uh about you know, what would you use for your log cabin?
1:00:13
SPEAKER_12: Uh it says start with a look that appeals to you.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_09: No!
1:00:17
SPEAKER_12: No.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_12: Ask yourself if you like the look of large knots and prominent grain typically found in pine, or prefer a few knots and straight, inconspicuous grain.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_12: Most seed.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_12: Maybe you want a hard, dense wood species, oak, or something a little softer.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_12: I like this article.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_12: The importance of geography.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_12: They tend to specialize in tree species near their production facilities.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_12: No freaking crap.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_12: Anyway.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_12: Okay, here's my favorite one.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_12: Where to start?
1:01:03
SPEAKER_12: How about the forest?
1:01:06
SPEAKER_12: Focus on finding a company that produces homes you like.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_12: Wow! Good thing you have this magazine.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_12: I would never have thought of it.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_12: I would never- Okay, this house, look at this house.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_12: It's half stone, half log.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_12: Does that count?
1:01:24
SPEAKER_01: I I I guess.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_12: It's neither log nor timber.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_12: Well, it's half log, I suppose.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_12: There's stone in there, man.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_12: I don't know what that is.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_12: I don't know, this is just too funny.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll build one someday.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_12: Of course you will.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_01: Or have have one built someday.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_12: I think this is a this is a nice looking one.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_12: I think you should go with this.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: I like that one.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah?
1:01:46
SPEAKER_01: No, it's nice.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for uh indulging us.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_12: Well, you know, I I like to inform and entertain.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_12: Um Infotainment.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_01: It is uh it is now time to climb the wall of tunes.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah! I have an album.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_01: So let the guessing begin.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_11: Is it a band?
1:02:15
SPEAKER_01: No.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_11: Soda.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_11: Yes, honey soil.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_11: Is it a man?
1:02:23
SPEAKER_11: Yes.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_11: It is a man, okay.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_11: Rock man?
1:02:28
SPEAKER_11: R B man?
1:02:30
SPEAKER_11: Soul man.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_11: Um blues man.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna say pop.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_01: Um with a strong foot in rock and roll.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_01: Especially progressive rock and roll.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_12: Peter Gabriel.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: No, but you're very close.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_12: Am I?
1:02:59
SPEAKER_11: 80.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_11: So many.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_11: Nope.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_12: Iconic songs?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: Several.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_12: David Bowie.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh nope.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_01: I told you you were really close with Peter Gabriel.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_11: That doesn't mean anything to me.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_11: It doesn't?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_11: No.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_11: Is it Phil Collins?
1:03:28
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_12: Oh, okay.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_12: There we go.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_01: Uh so you would say pop.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, he plays with Eric Clapton.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_01: Wow, he plays with everybody, right?
1:03:42
SPEAKER_01: He's Phil Collins.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_01: Obviously, Genesis was progressive rock.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_01: But this is the album that I took.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_01: But seriously.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_12: Oh, that's a good one.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, I love this album.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_01: I love this song.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_01: Syndicate should do this song.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_12: Oh yeah, it was cool, man.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_01: Actually, there's a song.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_01: Do you know this album?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_01: Do you have this album?
1:04:07
SPEAKER_12: I have it somewhere.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_12: I have it on vinyl, actually.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_01: There's a uh there's a piece on this album that I do I think the R Horn sections to t should tackle.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_01: So obviously you know this one.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_01: Something happened on the way to heaven.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_01: This was a huge song for him.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_01: I think he had I think he had uh one, two, three, four, at least four hit songs off this album.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_12: I wouldn't be surprised.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_01: I love this part.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_01: I miss Phil Collins.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_01: But there was a time when Phil Collins was like He was the Taylor Swift of the 80s.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_01: He was.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was everywhere, man.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_01: He was everywhere, and not that he didn't deserve it, because he put out quality stuff.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, but you couldn't get away from him.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_13: No.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_01: Because he was not only was he doing his solo stuff, but he was still in Genesis.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_01: And they were doing stuff.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_01: So I like this song.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember?
1:05:29
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean the song is.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_12: That's what I was saying.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_12: I do remember.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_12: We never talked.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_12: You asked me a question, I answered it.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_12: So you know.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_05: But I hear the bang.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_01: This is such a great song.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then this one, of course, um, which was also huge.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_01: I think this was the first single.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_13: Oh, yeah.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_12: Very socially conscious.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_12: It was.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_01: For Phil Collins.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_01: Great song.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_01: Another day in Paradise.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_01: And of course you had his uh buddy, Eric Clapton.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_01: All big hit songs.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so what I think there's a there's an instrumental on here.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember this?
1:06:37
SPEAKER_01: Do I?
1:06:38
SPEAKER_01: Saturday night and Sunday morning?
1:06:41
SPEAKER_01: Possibly.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_01: Ah, love this.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_01: I would love to do this just for fun with the syndicate.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_13: Oh yeah.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_01: I love how it turns to the groove.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_01: So this is Saturday night, right?
1:07:00
SPEAKER_01: And then in the morning after Saturday night, you're a little groggy because you're hungover.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_01: We're still on Saturday night.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_12: We're still on Saturday.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_01: Now we're on Sunday morning.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_01: This is another guy that wrote all his stuff.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_01: You know, for the most part.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_01: I mean he even he probably wrote the chart to this for these Hornets.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_01: He's a pretty smart fella.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I saw a picture of him lately, and he I know he's had a lot of health problems.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_11: He's Yeah.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_01: He's uh he's no spring chicken.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_01: No, no.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_01: But uh he has not fared well, I guess, uh when it comes to uh He's been rode hard and put away with He has.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean I know he had back surgery or something like that, and and um he can't play drums anymore.
1:08:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_01: Which is sad.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_01: It is sad.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_01: I loved his book.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh oh yeah, the book was great.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh Not Dead Yet is what it's called.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_01: So uh Phil Collins, that is the album of the week.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh it's called But Seriously, and it came out, was it 89?
1:08:23
SPEAKER_01: It was late in the year.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_01: It was 89, yeah.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_01: 89 on Atlantic Records.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh uh 12 tracks on this.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_01: Great stuff from Phil Collins.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_01: And I like you know, Phil Collins had a great solo career, but uh after this album, I think, didn't he take a break and he went and did Guitar Zan or something?
1:08:41
SPEAKER_01: Or was it was there another album after this?
1:08:43
SPEAKER_01: I should check because I don't wanna I don't want to.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna check Phil Collins' discography because, you know, I can do that.
1:08:52
SPEAKER_01: We possess the tools of the trade.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_01: We do.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I almost want to say that he took a break after this one, and uh so but I would be wrong.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: So his first little album was Face Value in 81, then Hello I Must Be Going in 82, no jacket required in 85, but seriously in 89.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_01: He did both sides of the story in '93.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_01: Actually, when was Tarzan?
1:09:25
SPEAKER_01: When did he do Tarzan?
1:09:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh right here.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_01: So Collins also wrote and performed songs for Disney Animation of Tarzan.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_01: Um Testify in 2002.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_01: I think, yeah, I think it was the late or the mid- mid to mid-90s that he did Tarzan because after both sides, there was Dance into the Light.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_01: And this is where he started kind of fading.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_13: Yeah.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_01: Because he had a Dance Into the Light was a great song.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_01: But then they put out Testify, which was I think his last solo uh studio album.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_01: Which was I don't remember much of it.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: Which was in 2002.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_01: Um because the next studio album that he put out was in 2010, and that was going back, which was like Motown stuff.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_01: Right?
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: So I think his last studio album was Testify in 2002.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: That's hard to believe.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_01: That was like twenty twenty-one years ago.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_12: 20, 21 years ago.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_01: Um but Tarzan was in there somewhere.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_01: So he did the nineties.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_01: He worked he worked through the nineties.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_01: You know, he was yeah he was still uh he was a busy boy.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_01: Um but that's but seriously.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: From Phil Collins.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: Um but seriously, folks.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_01: Um did you know he was in the Beatles movie?
1:10:53
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, he's in uh he's in no Hard Day's Night.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_12: Hard Day's Night Days Night.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_12: He's in the uh the final the final show part, he's in the audience.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_12: Right.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_12: He gotta somehow he tells the story in the book, I think, of how he got he got in there.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_12: Uh and I think I have a I have a special edition Hard Day's Night DVD.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_12: Yep.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_12: And he does an introduction and he points he has a screenshot and has himself circled in it, so it's pretty great.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_01: But from what I understand, and if I remember something from the book.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_01: Well, he started off as an act, he wanted to be an actor.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_01: He's a good actor.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_01: And he's a very good actor.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_12: He was in the he was in he was in plays in London and stuff like that.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_01: There was a movie called Buster that he was in, which was in which was pretty good.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he did a good idea.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_12: I don't know if I've ever seen it.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_01: I've heard of it, but I think it's an old detective.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it's like a it's like a 30s gangster type movie.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_12: But he was good, he's a good actor.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_12: He is a good actor, yeah.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_12: Um that's why all his videos are awesome.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_12: You know, so you know, it just worked out well.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_01: Um if I'm not mistaken, did he have a not a bad relationship, but but a lukewarm relationship with Sir Paul McCartney?
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_12: I know.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_01: I thought that McCartney dissed him or something.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_12: Could have.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_12: I I don't know.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_12: It's probably I think it's in the book.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_01: I think it's in the book, but I don't remember how I don't remember either.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_12: Um I'd have to I'd have to go back to it and anyway.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_01: Um but seriously.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_01: Seriously.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_01: That is uh that is episode 170, and I think that the the the uh thing that we can take away from it is drugs are bad.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_01: Drugs are bad, don't do drugs.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_12: Don't do them, kid.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_01: Don't do them.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_12: This is your brain.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_12: This is your brain on drugs.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_01: The O'Brien in Duck Shop.
1:12:41
unknown: Right.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_12: Speaking of drugs are bad.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_01: Don't do them or you get a podcast.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_12: What's that?
1:12:47
SPEAKER_01: I said, don't do drugs or you'll get a podcast someday.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_12: That's like a it's like a story you tell kids to stay straight.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_12: If you don't do your homework, you're gonna end up doing a podcast in a fun nun in a dungeon.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_12: You bet you better go to college or you'll be stuck doing shows for nobody that cares.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_01: And making no money.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, speaking of making no money, did you know that one of my videos on my YouTube channel?
1:13:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_01: Which I don't do anything with my YouTube channel.
1:13:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, I use it to you know, every once in a while I'll post a song or whatever, but I haven't done that in years.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_12: I was about to say I didn't even know you had your own YouTube channel.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_01: I do, I don't, I I I it's there.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't do anything with it.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_12: All right.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_01: But I had posted a song a number of years ago.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_01: It's got twenty thousand views.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_01: Really?
1:13:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_01: That's pretty impressive.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_01: Of course, I think it's because I used Paul Sears' photography to make the to make the video itself.
1:13:47
SPEAKER_01: But it's a song about it's a snowplow song.
1:13:49
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the snowplow song.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, yeah.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_01: So I posted that I don't remember how long.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_01: A long time ago.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh but it's got 20,000 views.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_01: Now, if I had monetized that, I'd probably make five million dollars.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_12: You'd probably make, you know, you'd have enough to go to McDonald's.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_12: Uh Welcome to McDonald's.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_12: Can I take your order?
1:14:06
SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_12: Um, I'm splurging.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_12: I I monetized one of my YouTube videos, so I'd like two happy meals.
1:14:15
SPEAKER_12: Don't give me those apple slices.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_12: I want fries.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_12: Uh, would you like something to drink with?
1:14:22
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I'm gonna take an iced coffee with real ice because I'm splurging.
1:14:28
SPEAKER_12: Sporge.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_12: I'm special.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_01: And then I go to pay.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh no, you might as well hold the iced coffee.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't have enough.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh, never mind.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_01: Never mind.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_10: Cancel one of those happy views.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_10: Give me the apple.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_10: It was only 20,000 views.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_12: Alright, I'm O'Brien.
1:14:54
SPEAKER_12: I am still not Taylor Swift.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_12: Bye, everybody.
1:14:57
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1:15:24
SPEAKER_00: Is it yours?
1:15:26
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_00: Must have touched your hands in your closet.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what I got with the must have what.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_11: Answer me.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_11: Who taught you how to do this stuff?
1:15:39
SPEAKER_08: Do you alright?
1:15:41
SPEAKER_08: I learned it by watching you.
1:15:43
SPEAKER_11: Parents who use drugs have children who use drugs.