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SPEAKER_04: And I'm Travis Beasley.
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SPEAKER_03: So I I can't remember, because it's been a little bit, if I um mentioned this in my last episode, not the last episode, but my last episode.
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SPEAKER_03: I did all of this research specifically.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, okay, I did all of the demon research kind of together, anyways.
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SPEAKER_05: Like But specifically.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I later fleshed everything out per episode.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, but this specific one, I um I have been finished with it since my last demon episode.
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SPEAKER_03: Um because I don't know what the heck I was thinking.
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SPEAKER_03: I guess I thought I was gonna get through stuff a lot faster than like I did because I got really excited.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um I I like I could I I will say, um, and maybe people who like if if you've seen our notes, you you maybe can kind of understand this.
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SPEAKER_05: Um there's there sometimes really is a kind of a disparity between how how many there can be a big disparity between how much you actually have like in notes and how long like an episode can be.
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SPEAKER_05: It isn't always just like a a straight one-to-one, like, oh, if you have this many pages, the episode's probably gonna be around this long.
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SPEAKER_05: But I was kind of gently roasting Taylor after her last episode.
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SPEAKER_05: I was like, Taylor, I love you.
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SPEAKER_05: But how did you think we were gonna get through all that in one episode?
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SPEAKER_03: Honestly, it was kind of just a hope.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, because the devil's episode was two episodes long, although I definitely could have gone more in depth and talked about more of the uh like pit fiends and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_03: But um it didn't.
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SPEAKER_05: And yeah, you you kind of just felt neat that they would have both be the uh the same.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I got to demons, and oh my god, demons are just so so much more.
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SPEAKER_04: There's so many demons.
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SPEAKER_03: Yep.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So we're continuing that.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm going to uh assume here yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, well, so so last time, last demon episode, we talked about the different types of Tanari.
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SPEAKER_05: So what were we supposed to get to halfway through that episode?
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SPEAKER_03: We were just actually supposed to start talking a little bit more about demon d demonic society and demon lords.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So that's all this episode's gonna be.
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SPEAKER_05: So demonic society um in the Western Hemisphere and the northern half of the No, I'm kidding.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh mm.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_05: So But for serious.
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SPEAKER_03: The one thing I want to point out about demons um is I mean, by their chaotic nature, they have very loose representation of society.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh I mentioned this a little bit in the first demon episode, but it's very much the power rule strictly through power, and if anyone wants to overtake them, no one cares.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's just a strict battle.
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SPEAKER_04: Like, yeah, like a fight for power.
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SPEAKER_03: Some constantly.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, people can like you you can ignore the rule, but you better make sure that you're powerful enough to survive breaking that rule.
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SPEAKER_03: Or the or that not even that rule, but that order.
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SPEAKER_05: Um like the that that uh like convention, if you will.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Or even like a direct order.
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SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: I guess is more so.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's yeah, I would imagine that's probably things given more on a case-by-case basis, though, instead of just like, you know, um it's illegal to do this.
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SPEAKER_05: It's more like, hey, do this, and it's like, no, fuck you.
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SPEAKER_05: Pretty much.
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SPEAKER_03: Um as such, the abyss is kind of in a tumultuous state constantly where demons scheming, not even behind each other's back, just out in the open.
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SPEAKER_05: And yeah, at least the devils are like they try to they try to pretend like there's some some some more um smile to your face with a knife behind their back.
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SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, there's a little more uh there's a nice neat layer on top of it, I guess.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So demons are kind of obsessed with this idea of corruption and corrupting everything that they can.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_03: That's pretty much it.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean I don't know what word I expected to follow that, but demons are pretty much they've always been embroiled in war with each other and with everyone else.
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SPEAKER_03: They're the most likely to seek out the other conflict.
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SPEAKER_03: Because like, while like lawful evil and law lawful good don't agree on a lot of things, they still follow the law and still agree on the law.
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SPEAKER_03: But on the other hand, you have chaotic good and chaotic evil.
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SPEAKER_03: They like, yes, they're both chaotic, but the way that they approach chaos is so different.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, i they're the way to describe it is I guess chaotic good would be more like free will.
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SPEAKER_03: Chaotic evil is more like entropy.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Man, that's a such a such a concept.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: Entropy.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't I like it.
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SPEAKER_05: I I don't know if it's if it's just me, but that's one of those words that really puts a very evocative image in my mind.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, and a little bit of uh, you know, on that is that the character I played in Pathfinder was a witch in the entropy domain.
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SPEAKER_05: Um and I picked that domain because for some reason, I don't know if they're called domains for witches.
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SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_05: It's a domain.
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SPEAKER_05: Um but like for some reason that word just like makes me think about like the universe and shit.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and like the void, and just like it give it gives me like primal feelings.
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SPEAKER_03: Demons actually kind of relate a lot to that because one of the reasons why d demons relate demons and I relate to something similarly.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, more accurately, demons are in some respects thought to will bring about the entropy death of the planes.
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SPEAKER_03: Great.
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SPEAKER_03: Love it.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean that sounds like demons, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um so one of the biggest things to know about demons and devils is the blood war, which again, we are leading up to eventually.
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SPEAKER_03: I have one more group to get through after this.
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SPEAKER_03: We'll get to it.
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SPEAKER_04: The Blood War.
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SPEAKER_03: Which is, I mean, simply put, the fight between demons and devils.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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SPEAKER_05: And that's the one that the uh Archons don't really want to get involved in.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: I remember that from when you were talking about Zariel was her name?
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Zariel.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, but it should be noted before I continue on that one of the reasons why the Blood War has lasted forever is because, on the one hand, devils have superior intelligence and tactics, but demons just have sheer numbers.
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SPEAKER_03: There's just so much crawling in the abyss.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because there's there's probably a lot going on there that the like monster manual doesn't know about.
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SPEAKER_05: And by doesn't know about, I mean I feel like there's a lot open to be like there there would be precedent to pull like the from the 667th layer of the abyss, there's this crazy thing that's not that's not in the monster manual.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, there's precedent for that.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh because and also because like demons are basically continuously generated from mortal sin, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, among other things now, because we have the Lumara that are born of that uh that dead that dead um pantheon.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that that dead shit.
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SPEAKER_05: But you know, devils maybe are a little bit little bit less of the numbers department.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, they're less in a numbers department.
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SPEAKER_05: Their thing is more complicated than just they're they're smaller in number.
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SPEAKER_05: Um but they like you said, they have better tactics because they're more organized.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Because they're dang.
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SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna quickly move into the demon lords, but one thing I want to mention before we get there is the concept of true names.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, is that a thing in this?
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SPEAKER_05: I f I feel like that would be something that we would talk about more with like the the Fey.
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SPEAKER_03: So that's what I that's where I'm the concept is that every creature has a true name.
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SPEAKER_03: But it's a hidden name that not even they know.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, that explains a lot.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Huh.
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SPEAKER_04: That's very strange.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um they can actually be found out by accessing uh a layer of the nine hells, Kenya.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, uh from a being called the knower of names.
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SPEAKER_03: Ow.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, very well.
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SPEAKER_03: She uh they were limited in telling people by the gods, because the gods are the ones who assign the names.
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SPEAKER_05: Ow.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: Huh.
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SPEAKER_04: So what would be the purpose to one of them wanting to find out their hidden name?
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SPEAKER_03: So the the true names basically make it possible for creatures who know it to gain power over them.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Um for all fiends, it's kind of this double-edged sword.
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SPEAKER_03: Because if you know your true name, it makes it possible for you to rise up fiendish ranks.
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SPEAKER_03: Um on either side.
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SPEAKER_03: Basically, I'm pretty sure it just gives you access to more power, but um on the other hand, it makes it oh, if anyone else found out about it, you're fucked.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because they now have that much more power over you because they know your true name.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, that's how it is in all like the the fay and like witchy type.
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SPEAKER_05: And I'm not talking about in DD, I'm talking about in like other stuff.
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SPEAKER_05: Like that kind of media is very much like if you know someone's true name, like you have power over them.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, a name gives you power over a person.
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SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_05: Um if you go to the fairy realm, don't tell them your name and don't eat their food.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But in this, the the idea is you wouldn't know your true name anyways.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But uh regardless, for m for fiends, a mortal could use their true name to summon them and bind them to servitude.
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SPEAKER_03: Ah But fiends could also torment their rivals by dangling the fact that they know their true name in front of them and then, you know, helping dis helping mortals to discover it.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, essentially like blackmail.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Um sometimes when d uh demons and devils changed forms, their name would change as well, but that doesn't really yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But that's true names.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh with that, I would say that probably everyone that I'm about to describe probably knows their true name.
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SPEAKER_03: Which I don't know if these are their true names, but here we go.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, I I wonder what if okay, what kind of a power move would it be if like a demon lord knew their true name and that's how they referred to themselves and had other people address them as, but everyone had the mindset like you did.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, I don't know if these are their true names or if they would keep that secret.
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SPEAKER_05: So nobody actually knew their true name because they assumed that the name that they use.
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SPEAKER_05: They're like, they wouldn't use that as their true name.
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SPEAKER_04: No one's that stupid.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it's like even if they're speaking it, they're not speaking it with the knowledge that that's their true name.
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SPEAKER_05: So maybe it wouldn't work.
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SPEAKER_05: Maybe that's a technicality.
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SPEAKER_04: So you said that the people or the place that they have to go to get their true name.
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SPEAKER_04: Is in the Nine Hells.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: They were they're like told not to give it.
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SPEAKER_04: Did it describe how they would like bargain to get their name?
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SPEAKER_03: It it said that they're that um they're limited.
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SPEAKER_03: Um sorry, she.
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SPEAKER_05: She is limited.
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SPEAKER_05: We've had we've had five people come and seek their true names this year, so you're gonna have to wait, um, take a number, and we might see you in the next like 3,000 years.
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SPEAKER_03: Basically, she's limited, so she only She's limited by the gods, but I it doesn't delve into how she's limited.
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SPEAKER_03: So she'll only give people their true names for hefty sums of gold.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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SPEAKER_04: Like I had a feeling there was some way, like some sort of bargaining system there, whether it be gold or souls or something incredibly.
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SPEAKER_04: I feel like she's a liar.
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SPEAKER_03: She might be.
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SPEAKER_04: That's funny.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm just saying.
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SPEAKER_03: Anyways, so demon lords are all the higher tier of demon kind.
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SPEAKER_03: Being chaotic in nature, that's not really a hierarchy.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, instead, a demon lord is a demon who rules over at least one layer of the abyss.
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SPEAKER_03: That's it.
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SPEAKER_03: They don't necessarily have to be the most powerful, they could just be the only one that lives there.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, hey, you know, you get it how you can.
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SPEAKER_03: That that that works.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh from there, the demon lords only bow to the strongest of them, so the Prince of Demons.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh Demogorgan, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Demons as a whole really only listen to others when it benefits them, or the other demon is stronger.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean There's constant in fighting, as I mentioned.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh most demon lords were Tanari, as with most of demons.
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SPEAKER_03: Though a few remaining Oberth demon lords still existed.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: I would imagine that some of them are just too powerful.
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SPEAKER_03: It is a combination of probably a lot of factors.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, I'll actually get to that here in a minute.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Um the most notable of which is the Queen of Chaos and Aboxab, the original Prince of Demons that she deposed.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, he he's still off somewhere.
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SPEAKER_03: Both are likely left alone because they are simply one, too weak for to do anything for the time being.
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SPEAKER_03: Um there's also probably some amount of fear as well that they're like that they're not actually weak currently, that they're just preparing.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, I I think I I think I get yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: I I get the the the vibe.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um and uh I would this is this is conjecture, but I would also imagine that some um demons are just kind of like looking upon them and their sad little layers.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh and they're just like, stop it, he's already dead.
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SPEAKER_04: Like they've It's not enough, man.
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SPEAKER_05: They've like they've been through enough.
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SPEAKER_05: Let's just leave them alone.
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SPEAKER_05: Who even cares?
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SPEAKER_05: Like, like they're not relevant, I guess, is kind of the vibe that I I would think that maybe some demons would feel.
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SPEAKER_05: No, for sure.
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SPEAKER_05: Is that that some of these um maybe especially like some of the Oberiths that most of their kind had been slaughtered and deposed and all that, but some of them maybe they just think they're not relevant anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_03: And like they're more focused on like other stuff.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Things that are much more pressing.
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SPEAKER_03: Demons are very much a um deal with this first.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: And like it's the abyss.
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SPEAKER_05: There's a lot going on.
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SPEAKER_04: Constantly.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Constantly.
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SPEAKER_04: Including constant fighting, turns out.
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SPEAKER_03: Yay.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, so there's also Dagon, who was named uh also named the Prince of the Depths.
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SPEAKER_03: He's this eel octopus fish thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, and he occupies an otherwise non-occupiable layer of the abyss, the shadow sea, which is layer 89.
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SPEAKER_03: He's almost certainly left alone because he's one, simply too powerful, rivaling even Demogorgon's strength, and two, he just is deep in the abyss.
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SPEAKER_05: Like he he lives in like it's called the Shadow Sea.
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SPEAKER_04: I would imagine it's not very Right, and it's 89 levels down.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: To get there in the first place as a struggle.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: And also, like, that's funny, um, like his his his form though, because you said Dagon, and I was like, obligatory oblivion joke.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: But uh no, he is not a big red guy.
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SPEAKER_05: He is An eel octopus fish thing.
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SPEAKER_05: Cool.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, I think I prefer the latter, personally.
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SPEAKER_04: An eel octopush fish thing?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: I love eels and octopi and fish.
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SPEAKER_03: He he does look really interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: Very uh very what's the word I'm looking for?
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SPEAKER_03: Eldritch.
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SPEAKER_05: I love that eldritch shit.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Next is uh Pazuzu.
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SPEAKER_03: Known as the Dark Angel of the Four Winds.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey.
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SPEAKER_05: Pazuzu.
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SPEAKER_05: I loved you in the Exorcist, man.
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SPEAKER_03: Pazuzu was described as being tall and well proportioned with unmistakably demonic features, such as avian feet, four wings that both smoked and gleamed with oil, and most notably a feral bird's beak on an otherwise handsome face.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh okay.
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SPEAKER_05: Sure.
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SPEAKER_05: Alright, fine.
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SPEAKER_05: I've seen like you know, that makes sense.
18:37
SPEAKER_05: I've seen some like handsome air cochra.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean I'll I'll accept it.
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SPEAKER_04: Just the combination of all those things does not initially put the thought of handsome into my mind.
18:47
SPEAKER_05: See, it puts the thought of handsome into my mind.
18:49
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know what that says about us.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm probably just the odd one here, actually.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I think you are.
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SPEAKER_03: Um so Pazusu's home was actually the first layer of the abyss.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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SPEAKER_03: It's called Pazunia, also known as the Plane of Infinite Portals or the Palace of 1001 Closets.
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SPEAKER_04: 1000 and One Closets.
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SPEAKER_04: That's a so many for you to come out of.
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SPEAKER_05: Congrats.
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SPEAKER_05: We've discovered my origin story.
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SPEAKER_05: Taylor.
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SPEAKER_05: Now just to find out what's in the other 999.
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SPEAKER_05: Also, he did he name the plane after himself?
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SPEAKER_05: I hope he did.
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SPEAKER_03: It didn't mention, but I think so.
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SPEAKER_03: I think either he did or someone else.
19:39
SPEAKER_04: Someone, someone did.
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SPEAKER_04: I hope he did.
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SPEAKER_05: I hope he was like, hey, this is my plane.
19:45
SPEAKER_05: Also, that's just like big um Julius Caesar creating the month of July for himself.
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SPEAKER_05: Pizzous is just like, this is my plane.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna call it Pazunia.
19:57
SPEAKER_04: Fucking Julius Caesar.
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SPEAKER_05: And all of the yes men demons that are afraid of him are like, that sounds great, my lord.
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SPEAKER_05: Because they don't want to get exercised.
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SPEAKER_04: Or eaten or whatever it is.
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SPEAKER_03: Or whatever else he does.
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SPEAKER_04: He wishes to do.
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SPEAKER_03: Pretty much.
20:11
SPEAKER_03: Um Pizzunia was this like layer that's like this barren wasteland and relentless red sun.
20:20
SPEAKER_03: But the thousand portals and the 1001 closets is actually because there were portals in all of these dark pits uh that connected you to various layers in the abyss.
20:34
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
20:35
SPEAKER_03: But uh also to Styx, the river.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: Ah, which connected to both pandemonium and Hades in different areas.
20:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh shit.
20:44
SPEAKER_04: Nice.
20:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:45
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
20:46
SPEAKER_04: I like it.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: I was kind of thinking that maybe the portals were just to like other places.
20:51
SPEAKER_05: Other places, not in the the realms.
20:54
SPEAKER_05: I mean that too, but also particularly to different places in the abyss and all that.
20:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's kind of hot.
21:00
SPEAKER_05: Um also that's I I guess the visual I had it, not not exactly, not so much as like the nine hells, but I think what I thought in my head was that the abyss, which I don't know why I thought this was naive of me, would just be like a straight shot down.
21:13
SPEAKER_05: No.
21:14
SPEAKER_05: And less like a shoots and ladders game.
21:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no.
21:18
SPEAKER_03: It is definitely more like a shoots and ladders game.
21:20
SPEAKER_03: Anyways, uh Pazuzu, he loved corrupting the innocent, lawful, and mortals.
21:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
21:25
SPEAKER_03: He actually has many claims of fame, including influencing the original gods that helped create the abyss and that first story about the uh mad god.
21:35
SPEAKER_03: And he claims to be the one to have corrupted Asmodeus.
21:39
SPEAKER_05: Oh claims to be.
21:41
SPEAKER_05: Claims to be.
21:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: I feel like that specifically saying claims to be opens a lot of interesting.
21:47
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
21:49
SPEAKER_05: So where's where does he live now?
21:52
SPEAKER_03: The first layer.
21:53
SPEAKER_04: It is the first layer still.
21:54
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I was expecting him to like this was named after me, but now I'm gonna go to this other layer.
21:59
SPEAKER_03: No, he he Still lives on the first layer.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: And honestly, he's probably that too powerful.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: And also, I mean, it's just the it's the first layer.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: No one wants to live there.
22:10
SPEAKER_03: The only thing that's there is the fucking sky and a wasteland.
22:14
SPEAKER_05: A sun and a shitty desert and a bunch of portals.
22:18
SPEAKER_05: Who cares about a bunch of portals?
22:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:20
SPEAKER_03: The last of the Oberth Lords that I'm going to talk about is called Pale Knight, who was also called the mother of demons.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: She appeared as a shimmer of light, a white sheet blowing in the wind against the contours of a comely feminine form.
22:36
SPEAKER_03: Upon closer inspection, her appearance was maddening and would result in death.
22:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wonderful.
22:41
SPEAKER_04: Well, that took a turn.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh she did create a number of demons, possibly, including possibly Grazd.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: Grazie Graz.
22:51
SPEAKER_03: Grazd.
22:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh she rolled over the 471st lair called Andrelin, which was this is a lot.
22:59
SPEAKER_03: It was created as a nightmare trap for an entire generation of Eladin children that were doomed to live there for eternity as cruel torture.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: Because Pale Knight convinced a like celestial celestial?
23:16
SPEAKER_03: Celestial Eladrin uh to make a pact, and that was her what she got out of it.
23:23
SPEAKER_05: God, demons, demons in their fucking pact.
23:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_05: Also, that just like this sucks.
23:29
SPEAKER_05: But because it's it's not like a power grab thing.
23:32
SPEAKER_05: It's like, hey, I'll do this thing for you if you let me torture this entire generation of children.
23:37
SPEAKER_05: Like, you don't get anything out of that except for your own sick enjoyment.
23:40
SPEAKER_03: So they don't age or anything, they don't die.
23:43
SPEAKER_05: Of course they don't.
23:44
SPEAKER_05: Because then the torture would stop.
23:47
SPEAKER_03: Elodrin actually, like non-Elod not not the group of children, actually made a um, I guess a not a rescue mission, because they can't like go there.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: Go there, but they go there and they guard the children now.
24:02
SPEAKER_03: And so the it's Angelin is now like it's not a good place to be, but like they're it's not an unhappy place.
24:12
SPEAKER_04: It is at least a little better.
24:15
SPEAKER_05: It's like a like a purgatory type.
24:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:19
SPEAKER_03: So it's definitely not good, but so Pale Knight, she actually lived on Bathumet's lair in the Bone Castle.
24:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
24:28
SPEAKER_03: More on that later.
24:29
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
24:30
SPEAKER_04: There's more to that.
24:31
SPEAKER_03: So one of the many, many, many Tanari Demon Lords, Demogorgon, is one of the most well known.
24:39
SPEAKER_03: The two-headed beast was constantly at war with himself, as his heads actually had different personalities and names.
24:45
SPEAKER_05: Oh, he's like a doduo.
24:47
SPEAKER_05: I love it.
24:48
SPEAKER_05: Wait.
24:49
SPEAKER_05: Hmm.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Different names?
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Like different true names?
24:53
SPEAKER_03: I thought I thought I had written them down, but I suppose I didn't.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: Give me just a moment.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: Um his left head was called Emil and his right was called Hethrodiah.
25:04
SPEAKER_05: Hethrodiah.
25:05
SPEAKER_03: Hethrodiah.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: Is it Amion?
25:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh Amil.
25:10
SPEAKER_03: It's spelled like Samuel, but with a f with two X.
25:13
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I found it on the Emil.
25:14
SPEAKER_05: That's how yeah, I was gonna say that sounds like an angel name.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: Actually, those both sound like angel names.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: Um the two heads, like I said, constantly were were warring.
25:24
SPEAKER_03: Um Emil is more of this charismatic and calculating type who relished in deception and wanted to be free of the other half.
25:33
SPEAKER_03: Hethrodiah loved destruction and did not wish to be separated.
25:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's huh.
25:40
SPEAKER_05: That's interesting.
25:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
25:42
SPEAKER_03: But they both thought that they would do a better job being in charge.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: Naturally.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:48
SPEAKER_05: Dang, there's a there's a lot.
25:50
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot going on there.
25:51
SPEAKER_04: There is a lot going on there.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: It it said that if they could if the two heads could actually unite, all the planes would be doomed.
25:59
SPEAKER_05: Oh, oh that's that's fucking delicious.
26:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
26:03
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's a good thing.
26:04
SPEAKER_05: Maybe this should go to family therapy.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: No.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: No, because then all the planes would be doomed.
26:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh he rules the 80th layer of the abyss, the gaping maw.
26:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah.
26:16
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
26:17
SPEAKER_05: I love the word gaping.
26:19
SPEAKER_04: The gaping maw.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: Um next up is Orcus.
26:24
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was that guy.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: He was the demon lord of the undead.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: Orcus was typically described as having the head and legs of a goat, although with ran-like horns and a bloated body with bat-like wings and a long tail.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: He's a little bitch.
26:40
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, his art ranges from like weirdly sexualized posed dad bods to just a fat baylore.
26:48
SPEAKER_05: Huh.
26:48
SPEAKER_05: He's also a little bitch.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: He is also a little bitch.
26:52
SPEAKER_04: Which one do you go with?
26:53
SPEAKER_04: Um bod or fat baylor?
26:56
SPEAKER_03: I Whoa.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: Uh see?
27:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: Like weirdly sexualized.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: That's like some like sexy demon queen poses that he's got going on.
27:10
SPEAKER_05: You know what?
27:11
SPEAKER_05: You know what?
27:12
SPEAKER_05: Prop props to that artist.
27:14
SPEAKER_05: Uh, genuinely, yes.
27:15
SPEAKER_05: For being like, I'm gonna.
27:19
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
27:21
SPEAKER_05: What wow?
27:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh, this is some like like oh, that's hilarious.
27:26
SPEAKER_05: Okay, I'm sorry.
27:27
SPEAKER_05: You're fine.
27:27
SPEAKER_03: Um Orcus really only cared about himself and spreading misery.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: He was routinely fought to gain power just to lose it to his own laziness.
27:40
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: Laziness gets the better.
27:43
SPEAKER_05: I yeah, because I believe Orcus was the um he was over the portfolio of the dead for part of the time of troubles before Kalumvor took over.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: Right.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: I believe he was the the one that lost it to Kalumvor.
27:57
SPEAKER_05: Or it might have been one of the other gods of the dead.
28:00
SPEAKER_03: Because there's there's been so many.
28:02
SPEAKER_03: I I know that at one point, um uh I don't remember or well, I do remember.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you guys remember the Dra the Drow goddess uh Hyaren Sale, the um that Lich uh Drow goddess of the Yeah yeah yeah.
28:19
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
28:20
SPEAKER_03: She took over Orcas' domain and his lair of the abyss um and wiped him from history at one point.
28:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: Uh damn.
28:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:31
SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
28:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:34
SPEAKER_03: Um, but yeah.
28:36
SPEAKER_05: He ended up being resurrected and Yeah, and if if I remember correctly, um his especially his like cults were at odds with the cults of both Vecna and Aceric, if I remember correctly.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: Constantly.
28:49
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
28:49
SPEAKER_05: So he just has a bad time with Liches, I guess.
28:53
SPEAKER_05: Which is hilarious because he's the You'd think that he would have some Yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: And he has been the god of the Undead before.
29:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:01
SPEAKER_05: Anyways, so uh You'd think there'd be some rapport there, but I guess not for evil people.
29:07
SPEAKER_05: No.
29:08
SPEAKER_05: The rapport doesn't exist.
29:10
SPEAKER_03: Next up is uh Grazd.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: The demon or sorry, the dark prince.
29:16
SPEAKER_03: Uh he's this dark, handsome, humanoid Tanari of mysterious origin.
29:21
SPEAKER_03: He is like the most human-looking of all the Tanari.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: Just looks like a dude.
29:27
SPEAKER_05: Uh he looks like um a dude.
29:29
SPEAKER_05: Oh, what were the uh Darth Maul and Savage Press?
29:34
SPEAKER_05: Um, um I know it.
29:37
SPEAKER_05: Zabrak.
29:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
29:38
SPEAKER_05: He looks like a Zabrak, except like all just like solid black instead of with the colorful and the facial markings.
29:46
SPEAKER_05: He looks like a Zabrac with the the way he's I mean I mean he's pretty sexy.
29:51
SPEAKER_03: He he he's a little sexy.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: He has he's got like really black, like dark black skin that's like obsidian, and hit his eyes are like this uh green glittering green, and he's got pointed ears, like legit kind of looks like a cross between a drown and a Sebrak.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: Uh Homebird people, do your thing.
30:14
SPEAKER_04: I mean, sounds pretty cool.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, for one of the demon.
30:21
SPEAKER_03: One origin, as mentioned earlier, claims that he is a child of the Pale Knight, fathered by Asmodeus or some other horrific mon monster.
30:30
SPEAKER_03: I really like the idea that he was fathered by Pale Knight and Asmodeus.
30:34
SPEAKER_05: They have a lot of interesting rumors about Asmodeus and the abyss.
30:38
SPEAKER_05: They do.
30:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm beginning to wonder if these are actually like founded in any sort of like way, because there's so many of them, and it's like almost always there's a weird rumor, Asmodeus did it.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, it is it bad that these descriptions of these people are starting to make me think of Asmodius as kind of a square.
31:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, here's the thing.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, no matter what, Gras has something to do with Asmodeus because another claims that he was a general of Asmodius uh who was corrupted by the abyss.
31:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:16
SPEAKER_04: Jesus.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh, regardless, he dresses extravagantly and is a being of constant hedonism.
31:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he looks like hedonism.
31:25
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
31:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh he has a not insignificant number of children who are all, you know, Cambian or whatever.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: Whatever the half fiend, whatever.
31:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:37
SPEAKER_03: Only good thing is that point.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh he rules the 45th, 46th, and 47th layers of the abyss called the Triple Realm of Azagrath.
31:45
SPEAKER_05: Huh.
31:45
SPEAKER_05: Interesting.
31:46
SPEAKER_05: You know, I think it's kind of fun, um, and a little um little subversive, maybe, that they had this demon lord with this intense uh emphasis on like hedonism, and they made him like a sexy dude.
31:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:00
SPEAKER_05: I agree, I like it a lot.
32:02
SPEAKER_05: I would say either a s like a sexy lady or like a stereotypical gross-looking kind of dude.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:09
SPEAKER_05: If that makes sense.
32:10
SPEAKER_04: And he's the only one so far that rules over multiple players that we've heard.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a triple realm.
32:18
SPEAKER_03: Um I will mention that like there is more like okay, so like I will say that of the ones that I've talked about up to this point, because of I I've mostly been talking about the big players for the most part.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: They kind of rule more sections, but I'm talking about the major ones.
32:39
SPEAKER_03: And the 45th, 46th, and 47th layers, as a grat, are all kind of one unified realm.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: So that's why I went ahead and mentioned them.
32:48
SPEAKER_05: They're more closely tied together than maybe other layers.
32:51
SPEAKER_03: Like, for instance, um at various points, uh Orcas has ruled multiple layers, occasionally the uh 113th layer of the abyss, the 333rd layer of the abyss, that sort of thing.
33:07
SPEAKER_05: I and I also I would imagine that the abyss is probably not a straight down tube where everything is the same size.
33:15
SPEAKER_05: So I would imagine that some maybe like, and maybe those three realms that are are not only tied together, but maybe they would be a little smaller than some of the other ones.
33:24
SPEAKER_05: Right.
33:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:25
SPEAKER_05: And also just because it's like big doesn't mean it's you know doesn't mean that there's anything really interesting or good that goes on there.
33:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, they're cut it's kind of a uh Like it's the Abyss.
33:36
SPEAKER_03: There Yeah.
33:38
SPEAKER_05: Who knows what's going on down there?
33:40
SPEAKER_03: Well, apparently you do, but next we have uh Baphomet who rules the 600th layer of the abyss called the Endless Maze.
33:48
SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
33:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
33:49
SPEAKER_04: Very uh gives me a headache just thinking about the labyrinth feel.
33:53
SPEAKER_03: Is there a minotaur in there?
33:55
SPEAKER_03: He was known as the Prince of Beasts and the Demon Lord of Minotaurs.
33:59
SPEAKER_05: What?
34:00
SPEAKER_04: I did hell.
34:02
SPEAKER_05: I did it! I figured it out because I read a myth one time.
34:07
SPEAKER_05: I did.
34:08
SPEAKER_04: Good job.
34:08
SPEAKER_05: Yay!
34:09
SPEAKER_04: You did good.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was 12 feet tall.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
34:13
SPEAKER_03: With a bull's head, a bovine tail, and broad, stubby hands and feet.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: His body was covered with coarse black hair.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: His horns curved downward and outward.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: He wielded a giant bardiche.
34:26
SPEAKER_04: Dude, I love those things.
34:28
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what that is.
34:30
SPEAKER_04: It's uh I think it's technically classified as a pole arm.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: But it kind of looks like a cleaver attached to a polearm.
34:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:38
SPEAKER_04: And its like blade is probably about like three or four feet like long.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
34:45
SPEAKER_03: It's ridiculous.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: Like it's beautiful though.
34:48
SPEAKER_05: Um I don't think I like this depiction of him so much.
34:52
SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: It's okay.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: Nobody asked.
34:55
SPEAKER_03: Nitpick.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: You you probably more like his um his creations, the uh, oh, what were they called again?
35:02
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
35:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh ugly things.
35:05
SPEAKER_03: The the Bellz Bul Bulazars?
35:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:10
SPEAKER_05: Uh I just imagine him being like smaller and more compact.
35:14
SPEAKER_05: More just like a a traditional depiction of Baphomet.
35:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, very traditional depiction.
35:23
SPEAKER_05: Embrace tradition.
35:24
SPEAKER_05: Tradition being should make me tensei Baphomet.
35:28
SPEAKER_05: I like a small svelt sexy goat man, not a big one.
35:33
SPEAKER_03: So Baphomet uh dwelt in his palace, the Licti Liction.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: Lichtian?
35:40
SPEAKER_03: Lic Lichtion?
35:41
SPEAKER_03: And spent his time in his Tower of Science creating new demonic types, the Gorstroy, the Belzo Buzous, I don't know, and the Gores.
35:53
SPEAKER_03: I don't even remember how I pronounced it in the last episode, if I'm being totally honest.
35:57
SPEAKER_04: I mean, welcome to, you know, DD, where words are incredibly hard to pronounce.
36:03
SPEAKER_05: Everything's made up and pronunciation doesn't matter.
36:05
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
36:05
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
36:06
SPEAKER_05: Um so holy shit.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: The Tower of Science.
36:11
SPEAKER_04: Science! Love science.
36:14
SPEAKER_03: It should be noted that Baphomet and the The Mother of Demons, Pale Knight, they did not like the fact that they occupied this the same layer.
36:23
SPEAKER_03: Even though Baphomet was in charge, she had her castle there, and Baphomet did not like it.
36:29
SPEAKER_03: He tolerated it sometimes.
36:32
SPEAKER_05: He just like looks out over his science balcony and is like looking at her palace, and he's like, I will say I love the fact that Baphomet is such a like a science demon.
36:42
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, and it's funny because he's like these this big buff minotaur-looking guy with this gigantic weapon, but he's also like a scientist.
36:49
SPEAKER_05: What a fucking loser.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: Like he and the thing is, is like you would totally think of him as this like bestial monstrosity that like tore through everyone else to get where he is, but he uses so much science to create these things.
37:05
SPEAKER_03: Science! Science.
37:07
SPEAKER_03: Then do it for him.
37:08
SPEAKER_04: Um Yeah, I mean, who doesn't love science?
37:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:12
SPEAKER_03: So next up is Yinagu, who was a demon lord and chief being worshipped by gnulls.
37:20
SPEAKER_03: He had he appeared as a giant and even more disturbing knull.
37:28
SPEAKER_03: Oh he's cool though.
37:30
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I feel like he's on a he's on a book, I think.
37:33
SPEAKER_05: I think he's on a fourth edition book.
37:35
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
37:36
SPEAKER_03: Umigo's desires were, and this is a quote, savage in nature, and he wanted slaughter and destruction above all else.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: Great.
37:45
SPEAKER_03: He took great pleasure in inflicting terror and sorrow before his victims' deaths, destroying treasured possessions and crushing their hopes.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: He despised civilization, and if he were to conquer other realms, abyssal or otherwise, he would not attempt to rebuild their former structures.
38:03
SPEAKER_05: Great.
38:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh to the beast of butchery, the knolls were both his instruments and children as he saw fit.
38:10
SPEAKER_04: The beast of butchery.
38:12
SPEAKER_03: That's a name.
38:13
SPEAKER_04: I love it.
38:14
SPEAKER_04: That's a name and a half.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: It is capitalized.
38:17
SPEAKER_04: It is a title.
38:18
SPEAKER_04: I need to like remember that and use that later.
38:22
SPEAKER_04: The beast of butchery.
38:23
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
38:24
SPEAKER_03: Luckily for you, I have my notes.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:27
SPEAKER_03: Um he sought to use uh the knolls to bring his ideal world to fruition.
38:32
SPEAKER_03: And that just being.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: Just utter chaos.
38:37
SPEAKER_03: Um he ruled the 422nd layer, the death dells.
38:42
SPEAKER_04: So close dells.
38:44
SPEAKER_05: So close.
38:45
SPEAKER_05: You said 420, and I was ready.
38:48
SPEAKER_05: I was so ready.
38:50
SPEAKER_04: Nope, not quite.
38:51
SPEAKER_05: Damn it.
38:52
SPEAKER_03: So um this is the last of the um the major players uh who are actually they're actually called the demon princes.
39:04
SPEAKER_03: Um there are some former demon princes who I will mention at the end, but these are the current ones.
39:10
SPEAKER_05: Big big ones.
39:11
SPEAKER_03: So the this one is named Jubilex.
39:14
SPEAKER_03: And Jubilex was a demon lord of oozes and shapeless things.
39:19
SPEAKER_04: Oozes and shapeless things.
39:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, with it, with it.
39:23
SPEAKER_03: He was almost glorious in its unrivaled obscenity.
39:28
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was ridiculed by peers as Lord of nothing, the faceless lord, and even to them, a he was a demon as revoltingly vile, and a body as it was inscrutably aberrant in mind.
39:45
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, that that a lot of that was quotes, and it's kind of difficult to read it altogether.
39:51
SPEAKER_04: And boy, oh boy, is that one ugly son of a bitch.
39:55
SPEAKER_03: He had a shapeless form made up of a primordial soup of bubbling bile, a hideous mixture of hues, primarily streaks of black and green combined with bile of brown and yellow, and some translucent greys greys.
40:11
SPEAKER_03: He ruled layer two hundred and twenty-two shadalka, also known as the slime pits.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
40:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
40:21
SPEAKER_03: The realm was a bubbling fetid swamp covered with oozes, moulds, and slimes that formed strange organic shapes under a mud brown sky overcast with green clouds, from which torrential rains of filth fell every few hours.
40:39
SPEAKER_03: Um he shared this layer with Zugdmoy, albeit unwillingly.
40:43
SPEAKER_04: And I'm willing to bet Zuckm Zugdmoy was also of the same mind.
40:49
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'll tell you about it.
40:50
SPEAKER_03: Oh after we come back from our app.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
40:53
SPEAKER_04: I I I opened that one.
40:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
40:57
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41:02
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
43:33
SPEAKER_05: Zag Demoy.
43:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, who is the other uh resident of the shit pits?
43:37
SPEAKER_03: So Zag Demoy was the demon queen of fungi.
43:41
SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: The lady of rotten decay.
43:44
SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
43:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh she appeared from the waist up as a humanoid woman composed of thick sheets and coils of fungus that appear to have grown into the shape of what would otherwise be an attractive woman.
43:55
SPEAKER_03: Um she has like these four fibers.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: Antlers of fungi that uh grow from her brow, and her hands have talons because of course they do.
44:07
SPEAKER_03: Her lower torso is actually a coiling pillar of lashing ropey tentacles and other fungal growths.
44:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh, so that's what that is.
44:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:17
SPEAKER_04: I was looking at it like, okay, I know she's gonna be able to do that.
44:20
SPEAKER_05: I was still okay.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: Um I was still scrolling to try to find a link, to be a link, because I had no idea how to spell that.
44:28
SPEAKER_05: And whoa! Yeah.
44:30
SPEAKER_05: And uh Taylor said the word tentacles, and my eyebrows went to my hairline.
44:37
SPEAKER_05: This whole description.
44:38
SPEAKER_04: So um just have to interrupt this real quick.
44:42
SPEAKER_04: I believe this is a mini that somebody made and painted of her.
44:46
SPEAKER_03: It is um actually I have seen it.
44:49
SPEAKER_03: Um it is an official um not mini, it's a bust, or like a full-on statue that uh Witches of the Coast uh had commissioned.
44:59
SPEAKER_04: It's beautiful.
45:01
SPEAKER_05: Um it is I'd let her corrupt me.
45:04
SPEAKER_03: And I've seen many versions of it that I want to buy for the record.
45:08
SPEAKER_04: I am unsurprised.
45:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, anyway.
45:12
SPEAKER_03: Her skin is like this red and black color with maddening swirls of grays, blues, and purples, all the color of fungi in nature.
45:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, her only desire was to infect living creatures with her spores, making them her mindless slaves, and eventually into rotting and decomposing hosts for mushrooms, molds, and the spores that she spawned.
45:31
SPEAKER_05: Where do I sign up?
45:35
SPEAKER_03: I will mention that Zugdamoy has a history of trying to enthrall druids, clerics, and myconids to help her realize her dream of domination of fungi.
45:46
SPEAKER_04: Which she did, in fact, get a hold of some of the myconoids anyway.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:52
SPEAKER_03: There's actually a little story there, but unfortunately I don't have time to delve into it.
45:56
SPEAKER_05: And I would imagine myconids are some of those that, like, if you get control of one, you can probably get like a whole circle or a whole like colony of them, probably.
46:04
SPEAKER_05: Because they're so interconnected with each other.
46:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: Zugdamoid's palace on shell sheld shad sh I nailed it the first time, Shadalka.
46:13
SPEAKER_03: Um, consisted of dozens of gigantic yellow and brown mushrooms connected by bridges of shell fungi and surrounded by poisonous vapors and acidic puff walls.
46:23
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so like dream.
46:25
SPEAKER_04: It sounded really fucking cool and great until those last little bits.
46:32
SPEAKER_05: I I don't know.
46:32
SPEAKER_05: I think it's still cool.
46:33
SPEAKER_05: If you're if you're like immune to the toxins, it's fine.
46:37
SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, that's fair.
46:38
SPEAKER_05: Which I mean, like, if you're a mindless cordycep slave, you probably won't die from like spores.
46:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I would like to visit there without being a mindless slave.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: Why?
46:47
SPEAKER_04: Why not?
46:49
SPEAKER_03: So, anyways.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: Fraz Urbloo is next, and he was called the Demon Prince of Deception.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: So he is technically a prince, a demon prince, but I put him down here because there isn't much information about him.
47:02
SPEAKER_03: Um he specialized in liars and illusions, uh, and he controls the 176th layered cut layer called the Hollow Heart.
47:11
SPEAKER_03: Uh Fraz Urblue had gargoyle uh gargoyle-like form with like pointed ears.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: He legit just looks like a giant gargoyle.
47:18
SPEAKER_04: I mean he does.
47:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's like a thick gargoyle.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Muscly frame and great ebony wings and a long tail, and he had he was covered in pale blue hair and gray skin.
47:29
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't have very much about him except for this song from the Demon Omicon, which I'm not going to sing, I'm going to say like a poem.
47:38
SPEAKER_03: Um He comes in the winter, compassion and trust.
47:42
SPEAKER_03: He dances in spring with your love and your lust.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: He calls in the summer and you serve and serve him you must.
47:47
SPEAKER_03: He withers in autumn, you save him from dust.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: Your father, your mother, your lover, your child, his son, his daughter, his minion beguiled.
47:55
SPEAKER_03: And now that you've offered your life and your soul, he'll draw you to ruin and swallow you whole.
48:00
SPEAKER_04: Jesus.
48:02
SPEAKER_04: This is beautiful.
48:03
SPEAKER_04: That was beautiful.
48:04
SPEAKER_05: I like it.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
48:06
SPEAKER_03: And this is the poor joke.
48:09
SPEAKER_05: Moving on.
48:10
SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna try and pronounce this.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: Um Koshis Kosh?
48:16
SPEAKER_03: Kodish?
48:17
SPEAKER_03: Kodish.
48:18
SPEAKER_03: Uh no.
48:19
SPEAKER_03: Kot Kotchchi?
48:21
SPEAKER_03: Kotskji.
48:22
SPEAKER_03: Kostji Uh he was known as the Prince of Wrath, another demon lord prince.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: Um and a patron of Frost Giants and Rage.
48:35
SPEAKER_03: He established himself as a deity to frost giants, though, unthough surprisingly did not earn the ire of their other actual deity.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: So Kotchi was born as a mortal man, but one who was severely deformed.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: He was spurned by the tribes and by women, and he was driven to anger and rage.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: He turned to brutal murder, slaying every woman who ever mocked him, and crushing the skull of his former tribe's chieftain with his bare hands.
49:05
SPEAKER_05: Huh.
49:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh he was then discovered and taught by a witch, the Baba Yaga.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: What?
49:10
SPEAKER_03: The Baba Yaga's here now to make himself powerful and immortal.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: Uh when he was eventually killed, his soul was recreated into a powerful demonic being immediately.
49:20
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
49:21
SPEAKER_03: Because he had that much wrath and rage.
49:23
SPEAKER_03: Uh he controls layer 23, the iron wastes.
49:30
SPEAKER_03: Um it's kind of a long story.
49:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, I I I figured it's there's a there's a lot going on in that story there.
49:37
SPEAKER_04: There is a lot going on in that story, and good lord.
49:40
SPEAKER_03: So, um Eltab, yeah, that's uh his name.
49:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh Eltab.
49:46
SPEAKER_03: Eltab was pulled known as the Lord of the Hidden Layer.
49:52
SPEAKER_04: Yo, I like him.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: He was a 15-foot-tall humanoid with the head of a canine-like creature.
49:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh, his head sprouted numerous antlers and horns, and his body was covered in uh bony dark red plates.
50:05
SPEAKER_03: He had slitted yellow glowing eyes, and he ruled layer 248 of the abyss, which was known as the hidden layer.
50:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:13
SPEAKER_04: Cool.
50:13
SPEAKER_04: The hidden layer.
50:14
SPEAKER_04: Not so hidden, but hey.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: So next up is Abraxus, who was a demon lord called the Unfathomable.
50:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh he busied himself finding out about magic, basically, discovering magic words and spells, and unearthening lost arcane secrets.
50:30
SPEAKER_03: And his lair of the abyss was the 17th, known as Death's Reward.
50:36
SPEAKER_04: Death's Reward?
50:37
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
50:38
SPEAKER_04: He's very serpent-like.
50:42
SPEAKER_03: So next up is Al Dinak, also known as the Lady of Change, and she was a lesser demon lord.
50:49
SPEAKER_03: She reigned over a part of the lair of Pizzunia in the Abyss and was concerned with matters of transformation.
50:56
SPEAKER_03: She appeared as a humanoid woman with a lithe build, wearing an alabaster mask to hide her true monstrous visage.
51:03
SPEAKER_03: She had polished mahogany wood skin, long fingers tipped with needles.
51:09
SPEAKER_03: The Lady of Change subjected her patients to vile experiments that warped them physically immensely and enslaved them and enslaved them to her will.
51:17
SPEAKER_03: Twisted mockeries of their former selves, they would they became kind of half fiends, though they fought their new natures and suffered crippling remorse, they soon succovered to deceitfulness and rage and became chaotic evil.
51:33
SPEAKER_04: So I will say that one of the depictions I've found, which I realize this is probably not a legitimate one, it she looks like a scorpion.
51:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what I'm seeing.
51:44
SPEAKER_04: Which is weird.
51:45
SPEAKER_04: But I suppose if she is like the lady of change.
51:49
SPEAKER_03: I can't remember what edition I was actually able to find official art from.
51:54
SPEAKER_03: Um give me one minute.
51:56
SPEAKER_03: I will mention that she is named after an obscure Egyptian demon, so that's probably where the scorpion stuff comes from.
52:03
SPEAKER_04: Ah.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: Uh she was uh her her art in the Fiendish codex um was a little different than the art that's on Google.
52:13
SPEAKER_03: So if you want to look there later, you can absolutely can.
52:18
SPEAKER_05: But I mean also, you know.
52:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
52:20
SPEAKER_05: Scorpion.
52:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
52:22
SPEAKER_05: Scorpion lady.
52:23
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
52:23
SPEAKER_03: Um so next up is Alvarez, who was a demon lord who constantly searched for the taint of law among demons.
52:30
SPEAKER_03: He was a master of torture who would brutalize his own troops and even other demons feared his creative methods of torture.
52:37
SPEAKER_03: Jeez.
52:38
SPEAKER_03: He had deep-seated loathing of anything lawful, and was well known for his excessive cruelty and lack of mercy, even for a tonare.
52:49
SPEAKER_05: Again, I say this every time about something, but when they're pointing out that trait in a demon, you know it's extreme.
52:57
SPEAKER_05: You know it's bad.
52:58
SPEAKER_03: So Dwirgus was a truly ancient demon lord, at least as old as Pi Pale Knight.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: But for some reason, he's down here as Tonnerre.
53:10
SPEAKER_03: I don't think he actually was a Tonnerre because they said that.
53:13
SPEAKER_03: I think that he just got so shuffled around in the mess, he's probably one of those ones who hid his true nature.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: So he held dominion over shaping of demon races and was known as a flesh shaper.
53:27
SPEAKER_03: Uh was once a tutor of Baphomet.
53:31
SPEAKER_04: Oh.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
53:31
SPEAKER_03: Huh.
53:32
SPEAKER_03: Uh Draugus's realm was known as Flesh Forges and was the 558th layer of the Abyss.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: That's so gross.
53:38
SPEAKER_04: Flesh Forges?
53:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh man, the just the imagery that that puts together.
53:44
SPEAKER_04: Is correct.
53:46
SPEAKER_04: Ugh.
53:47
SPEAKER_04: Like a uh like a jabba job.
53:49
SPEAKER_04: Sorry, as a as a DM, that just made me happy because like that whole sequence of like describing that would be insane.
53:59
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
54:00
SPEAKER_03: So next up we have Lupercio or Lupercio.
54:05
SPEAKER_04: Is it a wolf?
54:06
SPEAKER_03: Uh the Baron of Sloth.
54:09
SPEAKER_03: And was one of many children of Pale Knight.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: He was a slogelike monster who dwelled in the 120th layer of the abyss, although he did not rule it due to his long periods of inactivity.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: Same.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: Uh next up is Malkinthet, and she was a demon lord who was also called the Queen of Succubi.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
54:30
SPEAKER_03: The Succubus Queen's realm was the 570th layer of the abyss, also known as Shind Shindel Shindelavri.
54:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh once a disgusting layer of heaving and shuddering flesh.
54:44
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of flesh.
54:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:47
SPEAKER_03: It it is notably very close to the flesh forges in number 558th to 570th.
54:53
SPEAKER_05: Um, this is the flesh area.
54:55
SPEAKER_03: That's the flesh area, the flesh zone.
54:57
SPEAKER_03: Malcolm transformed it into a verdant paradise.
55:02
SPEAKER_03: Title of this episode.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Um, but ultimately it was a paradise only for Malcolm Thet herself.
55:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh Malcolm Thet was described as a as an incredibly beautiful, human-like female with bat wings, horns, and a long prehensile tail tipped with a spike-like stinger.
55:17
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
55:18
SPEAKER_03: Um Malcolm Thet was among the first of the succubi to come to the into the abyss.
55:23
SPEAKER_03: Uh, she obtained her current title after years of waging wars and committing savage betrayals upon her fellow sister Succubi and former paramours.
55:34
SPEAKER_05: I mean, she's a demon, so like I mean, but but also like You know it's bad when they mention it.
55:40
SPEAKER_05: Well, something just something about that feels loaded.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
55:44
SPEAKER_05: Also melk and thought.
55:47
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
55:48
SPEAKER_03: Sorry.
55:50
SPEAKER_05: I didn't know how to put that in there organically, so I was just gonna say it.
55:53
SPEAKER_03: As a result of her ruthless climb to the top, she had cultivated a long list of enemies, which included Grezd, Yunagu, and Baphomet.
56:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh, she had few allies, including the uh demon prin the Prince of Demons Dimogorgon, with whom she birthed the monstrous Arendigot Groast, uh Pazuzu, with whom she mothered the su the succubus Red Shroud, and her con her consort Mastafalm, the hunting sovereign, and a demon lord concerned with sexual taboos and perversions.
56:29
SPEAKER_04: Sounds like the perfect thing to be suck lined with a succubus.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:35
SPEAKER_03: Ublave also called the angel of everlasting void, the demon monarch of the barons, and the queen of desolation, uh was a powerful demon who prowled the empty wastelands of the abyss, lurked within abandoned structures, and hunted the voids between the plains and other worlds.
56:55
SPEAKER_03: Ublive's head was that of a luminous fee crowned with horns.
57:00
SPEAKER_03: Her body resembled an insectoid a humanoid insect, um complete with sharpened armor plating and a sinuous tail that terminated in a deadly stinger.
57:14
SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of stingers.
57:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
57:18
SPEAKER_03: Oh, here's the best part.
57:19
SPEAKER_03: Ublave's long ghoulish tongue was used to lap up the blood of her victims.
57:24
SPEAKER_04: Long ghoulish tongue.
57:27
SPEAKER_03: Oh no! Ublve was lord of the 100th layer of the abyss, simply known as the Barons.
57:34
SPEAKER_04: And James Simmons.
57:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
57:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh God.
57:40
SPEAKER_03: Rixali, the Queen of Shadows, is the demon princess daughter of Pale Knight.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: Rixali's uh rule extended over shadow demons.
57:50
SPEAKER_03: Unlike her contemporaries, Rixali was content to rule Shadon Shadon, which is her lair, um without the desire to acquire a larger realm.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh personal power in the form of information and secrets was the only thing Rixali coveted.
58:06
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh to this end, Rixali created a vast library of secrets run by her lieutenant Virktooth, a Merilith sorcerer.
58:15
SPEAKER_03: The library's contents were so disorganized and chaotic that only Vicaruth could find anything of relevance.
58:22
SPEAKER_03: Virtually all Demon Lords called Rixali an ally and sent envoys to deal in secrets.
58:28
SPEAKER_05: Hmm.
58:28
SPEAKER_05: That's that's fun.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: That's very um like it feels like everyone has to be her ally because she has dirt on everybody.
58:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
58:37
SPEAKER_03: So her true form was that of a tall humanoid woman with jet black skin, although she regularly appeared in an incorporeal shadow form.
58:46
SPEAKER_03: Kind of like her mom.
58:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:48
unknown: Hmm.
58:49
SPEAKER_03: Uh she didn't show any interest in obtaining mortal worshippers or anything like that.
58:53
SPEAKER_03: Um she just like secrets.
58:56
SPEAKER_03: And she doesn't actually ask much of her minions except that they watch and report back what they learned as they roamed freely throughout the abyss.
59:02
SPEAKER_03: Was she hiring?
59:04
SPEAKER_03: Right.
59:05
SPEAKER_05: Probably.
59:06
SPEAKER_05: She sounds so chill in comparison to all these other demons.
59:11
SPEAKER_03: Um if you got secrets, then yes.
59:14
SPEAKER_05: I don't.
59:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh well then fuck you.
59:16
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
59:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh Sesanec was a Tonari lord worshipped by the lizard folk as a deity of civilization and dominion.
59:24
SPEAKER_05: Ooh.
59:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh Sesanec took the form of this six-armed lizard king with vestigial brown wings.
59:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool.
59:32
SPEAKER_03: He dwelt in the seventh layer of the abyss called the Keraknen, or the Phantom Plane.
59:38
SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
59:39
SPEAKER_03: Furthermore, Sesanec sealed and locked the lair so it could not be accessed without his express permission.
59:46
SPEAKER_03: Hmm.
59:47
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
59:47
SPEAKER_03: It said that he did this because he was tired of the blood war and went into self-imposed exile, wanting nothing to do with the politics of it anymore.
59:54
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
59:54
SPEAKER_03: Good for him.
59:55
SPEAKER_03: I agree.
59:56
SPEAKER_05: Good for him.
59:57
SPEAKER_04: I was expecting it to be like a more sinister reason, but no, no.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_05: I agree.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_05: I mean, maybe he might be doing something sinister in there, but he's also tired of the politics.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_03: Finally, we have Xanasu, or the sp spider demon.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_03: He was a minor lord who once had dominion over spiders.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_04: Aww.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_04: Gee, I wonder who took that dominion.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_03: Well the Queen of Spiders was an enemy of Xanasu.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_03: And since her banishment to the abyss, she drove him off during the establishment of her realm there.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_03: He lost control of the demon web pits to her.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_04: Damn.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_03: Wolf later schemed to eliminate Xanasu by telling uh Salvatarm, her grandson, that it would please his patron Ilestray, her daughter, if he defeated Xanasu and absorbed his power.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_03: Well, Xanasu was still weakened by his loss from the uh the forces of an invasion.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm not even going to attempt to describe what happened.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_03: It's a long story.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_03: Demon fights.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_03: Salvatarm attacked and was victorious over the demon lord, but absorbed his chaotic evil tainted power, tipped the balance in Salvatarm towards the side of evil.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_03: We talked about this a little bit in the Islastray episode.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_05: And Islas like, god damn it.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_05: The fuck, guys.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_03: That is it for the made, like the bigger demon lords.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: There's obviously a lot more demon lords because there's almost one for every single layer, unless it's unoccupiable by anyone.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_04: And then it's, you know, like in almost infinite.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_04: Like there's at least 600 of these guys.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_03: So honorable mentions, real quick, include Cormanda, a demon whose lower body fused with the stone of Mount Cormanda's lava tube.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_03: So he's half volcano during the events of spell plague.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_04: I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or not.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_03: He gets mad when people refuse to refuse to help him or fail to help him and kills them.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_03: But he's just fused to this volcano and can't do anything.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: And also Miska the wolf spider.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_03: Who you will recall as uh the Queen of Chaos's uh general.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_03: I will mention real quick before I wrap things up because I've gone a little bit over and also it it this needs to end.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_03: It's fine.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_03: But um the Queen of Chaos, I could not find a very I couldn't find a source for a description of her.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_03: Because like even though I'll like to pull back the veil a little bit, sometimes when I'm looking for sources, I go to Wikip the Wiki.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like it's has sources.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_03: Like like I don't usually take stuff just from there.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_04: No, but it's really great to use that too.
1:02:53
SPEAKER_04: As a compilation of sources, yeah.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_03: On the Wikipedia on the wiki, there's a description of the Queen of Chaos.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_03: I could not find that description anywhere else, but there's uh I I want to share it with you guys just real quick, um, just in case it's real.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_03: And I've seen lots of art that reflects this, so I'm sure I can it's somewhere.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_03: I just need to find it.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_03: So again, source from the Wikipedia or from the wiki.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_03: Thank you to whoever put this in there.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_03: And hopefully, if you're listening, you can help me find the source for where it came from.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_03: Um so the Queen of Chaos had an upper torso of a copy of a corpulent, blue-skinned humanoid female, whereas her lower body was a mass of ten mauve tentacles.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_03: Hidden in the tentacles was a razor-sharp, parrot-like beak.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_03: Uh Ursula.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: The queen had l had long drooping locks of green hair, and she wore a Sahuagan skull as a crown.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_03: What?
1:03:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that I mean that that's one of the reasons why I wanted to describe it because uh What did the Sahuagan do to her?
1:03:59
SPEAKER_05: Uh it has a cool looking skull.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_05: And they're lawful, also.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_05: She probably is not a fan of that.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_03: Um.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_03: But uh that's that that's what sh I I I mostly wanted to share that because of the Sahuagan.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_05: Um because we we need more excuses to say the word Sahuagan.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_03: Now that I know how to pronounce it.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_03: Sahuagan.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_03: But that's it.
1:04:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh that's all I got.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: That's a lot of demon lore.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's a lot of information.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_04: It is.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_04: Man, there And there's even more.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_04: It's just, you know, we do not have an infinite amount of time.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_05: Like there are infinite layers in the abyss.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_05: We do not have an infinite amount of time.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_05: No.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_05: Dang, I love demons.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_05: Me too.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_05: Man, I wish I could I wish I could describe like how this how they make me f feel.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_05: That sounds weird to say.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_05: But like the the the the vibes.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_05: The vibes are are impeccable.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_05: Because I feel like there's um like the the the devils kind of I think defied my expectations of how interested I would be in all of this.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_05: But um, I think like the the demons, like I kind of knew they were gonna be kind of batshit crazy and weird.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_05: Like it's like, you know, they're they're you know, head honcho is a guy with two baboon heads that have different personalities and fight with each other.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_05: Like you fuck off, you know.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_05: There's just something so crazy about all of their designs and like the principles behind it that like I knew going into it I was gonna love it, and I do.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is very good.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_03: I I love just how crazy everything is.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_03: Yes, exact exactly.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_05: Chaotic.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and how chaotic everything is.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_05: Like it, you know, it it feels like it feels like they got the the vibe.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and and it feels like they also got the most I'm not gonna say like the most creative, but I feel like they had a certain type of people designing these.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes if that makes sense.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_05: Like not to make that whole like, oh my god, were they on drugs when they made this kid's show?
1:06:10
SPEAKER_05: But like, I don't know.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: Maybe somebody could have imbibed something before designing some of these things.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_05: Just saying.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_05: It's either that or you know, they just have very, very creative minds, like very creative, maybe a little sick, maybe a little twisted minds.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_05: Anyway.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_05: It happens.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_05: That's how demons make me feel.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_04: Well, thank you everyone so much for listening to this part three of Demons.
1:06:34
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1:06:37
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1:06:42
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1:07:32
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1:07:35
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1:07:36
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