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Football at Four: Going Inside the Impact of the Parsons Trade on Eagles and NFC · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Eagles getting ready Thursday Night football right here on
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  ninety seven three ESPN. And by the way, their upcoming
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  schedule for next week is out. Nick Sirianni, we'll talk
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  on Sunday, the coordinators will talk on Monday, and Adam
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  kaplan on Tuesday. It will be Nick Sirianni talking for
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  the final time before they play the Cowboys for real.
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  Speaker 2: And the Cowboys made some news yesterday. If you didn't hear,
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  I couldn't be with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I told you for text. Jerry Jones
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  is the friend you didn't know you needed it, just
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  just for I don't know if it's comedy. I don't
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  know if you even heard his press conference last night
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  with his son.
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  Speaker 2: He gave an eleven minute answer.
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  Speaker 3: He's skip col check filibuster. It was pure comedy. I
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  called did Jerry double talk? It was classic Jerry Jones.
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  But look, I want to get into this one because
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  I one of the cool things about this segment is
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  if I talk about it like on television for two minutes,
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  three minutes, I got fifteen minutes to talk about this stuff. So, Mike,
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  this is one of those trades or situation or transactions
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  where NFL people love to give an opinion. So that's
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  kind of what I've done over the last you know,
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  over twenty four hours. Now that the trade has been completed,
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  and the prevailing thought was don't get carried away that
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  Oh boy, how they trained to the conference. The point
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  that most NFL people brought up to me was, you've
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  got to get better value for a generational talent. Mike
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  two times played four years, Michael Parsons, you just turn
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  just twenty six in may you see generational talent? Four
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  time Pro Bowl and no, we could argue the ability
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  of making the Pro Bowl. But four time Pro Bowler,
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  but two time All Pro four years, Mike. You don't
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  find these guys in every draft. You might be lucky
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  to draft someone like this every ten to fifteen years.
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  If you're lucky and to do this, you know, it's
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  one thing if he had been thirty years old, guys
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  just twenty six years old. So to get two dress
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  I had them or not I hadn't. I wasn't based
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  on getting my good Parsons because I didn't know that
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  it was gonna happen. But you add Parsons now next
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  to Sean Gary. Now that was their problem, like, why
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  do they make this trade? They had won with Shaun Garrett,
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  they needed more Lucas fan Ass who was that first
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  rounder who the Eagles like in twenty twenty three. He
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  was drafted for a different scheme. They were running a
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  thirty four nat then nout of the running of forty three.
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  He doesn't fit. They need an air thrusher and they
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  got an A Lee one. So from the packer's standpoint,
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  I get it. From the Cowboys standpoint, Kenny Clark is
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  a good football player. I found a comical how many
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  times had Jerry Jones talked about, Oh, we have to
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  stop the run. That's that's the basis for this trade.
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  He is delusional, Like, I'm not denying they have to
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  prove against the run. We know that can't be the
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  basis of this trade.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he said, you know, one of the things he
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  said to Adam was, you know, we got to get
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  better against the run.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's his little shot that you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Parsons not great against the run, but we got
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  to get better against the run. And that set up
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  the whole expository he gave before that. Because we are
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  very proud that we paid Dak Prescott, and we have
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  CD and we paid him, and we need to stop
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  the run so we can get the ball back to
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  the guys that we've paid money. And that's kind of
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  his way of saying, I value those guys more than
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  I valued you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he see, this is where the double talk comes in.
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  He said repeatedly before the trade. I had a deal
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  on the table with Micah in April. It was for
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  just over forty million.
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  Speaker 2: Now this for the sure was it with Michael?
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  Speaker 3: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: You sure it wasn't with Michael because he messed his
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  name up the entire I know, I know.
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  Speaker 3: And Jerry t innis eighties, God bless him. I mean,
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  he's see this is the problem. Mike. Yes, he did
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  play at Arkansas, did play football. Most people don't know that,
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  but he has no per to know background. You talk
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  to any any offensive coordinator, any defensive coordinator, well really
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  more defensive coordinators. They would say to you, we love
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  it when a team decides they're going to run the ball.
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  Try to run the ball against this because the explosive plays, Charlie,
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  come out of the passing game. You don't want to
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  get beat by the pass. Hey, well you saw what
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  see Spagnola did in the Super Bowl. He tried, he
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  did everything he kind of to stop Barkley. He did
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  and and Hurts and Kellamore dropped the bomb on him.
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  So the bottom line is, Mike, they got two first
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  round picks, which probably will be in the mid to
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  late twenties. Mike, let's be real. And they got a
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  good player who's agent, who's turning thirty next month, and
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  Kenny Clark. That's all you got. They should have got
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  Roshaun Gary back, but they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, obviously, the fallout from that trade is now impactful
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  everywhere because it impacts the NFC East, it impacts the
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  game on Thursday Night, and it impacts the NFC. So
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  let's start with DAB and what's left over for them
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  as they now. Jerry Jones says, we think we're it
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  makes us better this year now, which laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy, Mike, this now, okay? Here they are four edge rushers.
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  We like Donovan Arizaku on inside the Birds. We've talked
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  about him a number of times. Second round out of
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  Boston College, a local area kid. They've got Sam Williams,
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  who have the off the field problems in college. He's
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  been an underachiever, but it's very talent to come on
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  off a major knee injury. They've got Dante Fowler, who's
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  a good player, by the way, but you'd rather at
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  this stageous career be a backup. They've got, really my
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  four edge rushers. Now here's where they're gonna be good.
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  Oh so Diggi Zua is a really good tackle. Now
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  you put Kenny Clark to him. With him, they'll be
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  strong up the middle or stronger. Now, why else did
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  they make this trade? Mazzie Smith, the first round out
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  of Michigan two years ago, has been a bus and
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  he was there to stop the run and it hasn't happened.
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  That part is absolutely true. I wouldn't argue against that.
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  That's part of why they make the trade. But Mike,
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  they have a decent four dressers, but they don't have
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  that guy. And when you don't have that guy, it's
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  a problem. And you're again, the draft is until next year,
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  and if the draft goes like you know, if the
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  Packers are gonna be as good as most reasonable people think, Mike,
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  it's gonna be hard for them to do it. And
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  as a matter of fact, Marsha Kneel. It's other draft pick.
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  Whould they like? Who was second or last year? Mike
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  for fantasy Mike, I love the I like Dak Prescott.
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  Why they're gonna have to throw to win? They have
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  no running game. Javonte wins is not the player WANs
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  with Jada on Blue I like and Miles Sanders. So
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  if you if you're looking, if you've got your fantasy draft,
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  take in Prescott. Most people won't draft him as their starter.
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  I would. I think that's going to be really good,
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  but with his injury history, you better have.
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  Speaker 1: A backup well Adam obviously Bay. Now they add Michael Parsons.
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  This is a team that everybody liked last year and
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  they kind of disappointed a bit. They make the playoffs,
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  they lose at Philadelphia. Does he put that defense now
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  over the top?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they so. What they'll do is Mike, They're gonna
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  move Lucas Vaness inside, who was a guy just talked
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  about earlier with with Gary and Parsons at the edge,
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  they run. They run a four man front. Devontae Wieho
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  was the second who was a first round in twenty two,
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  Edrin Cooper, Kwi Walker linebackers they're fantastic. Where they're week
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  is that corner. That's the one week that they have.
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  They're elite at safety with they're really good man. Savian
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  McKinney's a top five safety. He's phenomenal. Javon Buller is
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  a player who could play nickel in safety. Nate Hobbs
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  I've always liked, but he's better at nicol who's a quarter.
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  Came in from the Raiders. Kisha Nixon's been a great
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  story of development, one of the best better special teams return.
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  He's corner, but he's not what you call a plus
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  level corner. If you're gonna go against the Packers, if
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  you could protect, you're gonna have to throw against them
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  to win.
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  Speaker 1: You look at Green Bay and the defense and they
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  at him, and you take a look at the NFC
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  as a whole. Does that put them above anybody else
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  that they were below at this time yesterday?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question. To see the books. If you're
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  following me on X, I put the numbers off of
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  pre Micah and the post Micah Parson straight to green Bay.
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  Soat depending which sportsbook you looked at, they were either
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  anywhere from eighth to twelve now they're about the fourth
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  highest high sides to win the Super Bowl. It's a
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  game changer now. The way, I'll have to do my
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  power ranking for next week for add inside, the Birth
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  will do them, and I'll probably do it an audio version.
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  I would rank the NFC now, see I already had
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  Green Bay Women Division. I probably would go green Bay, Washington, Philly,
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  Detroit Campus got injury problems. I don't believe in any
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  of those nfs NC westings to win it. Mike, that's you.
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  Speaker 2: Say you have Washington ahead of Philly slightly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you a little little bird's eye view here.
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  I think it's real tight between Philly and Washington. We're
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  gonna talk more about this next We're gonna give all
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  my divisional ficks, Me, Andrew and Jeff, we're gonna get
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  We're gonna do a little show on that. Next week.
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  We'll give all of our picks in buy division. But
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  this is a game changing player. I like that they
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  addressed the receiver problem. They need explosiveness. The Packers did.
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  Matthew Golden, Jane Reid's a good slot, Romeo Dobs is
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  a good player, Doc Kavian Witsilight Tucker Craft and Musgrave
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  are two really good tight ends. Josh Shakan's phenomenal. I mean,
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  their offensive lines are not elite like the Eagles, not
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  even close. They have a nice offensive, but nut great.
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  But they're right up there, Mike. And this, this Parson
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  Steel puts them over the top and puts the Cowboys
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  near the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I know everybody's side of looking at this and saying,
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  what is everybody thinking? But one thing it does do
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  is it affects the top end of the NSC. Now
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  it also possibly affects Dallas. Now did you look at
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  Dallas with Parsons as a possible playoff team?
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  Speaker 2: And this knocks them off the map.
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  Speaker 3: I had them as a in the two poles that
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  I turned in. I think I had them out of
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  the playoffs. In fact, I know I did. I had them.
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  It's the eighth team. See their second Their corner group
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  is not very good, all sorts of injury problems. They're
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  really good at safety, they're not good at linebacker. They
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  got problems, Mike. They're just between the four Edtrussers. So
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  I mentioned earlier. They'll be okay, but they're not going
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  to be even close to elite they're gonna have to
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  throw the score. Now, let's not forget George Pick and
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  Ceedee Lamb, Jake Ferguson. They have and I like Jalen
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  Choven as a third receiver in Kavakik Turpin who Eagles. No,
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  he's a pretty good football player. Now the Cowboys have
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  problems a left tack with Tyler Guiton. They're hopeful for
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  Week one with his injury. Tern Steele has not been
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  the same player he once was. Tyler Pookers. There is
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  their rookie, the first round pick out of Georgia. She's
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  out of Alabama. We got to see how he plays.
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  He's a rookie. So, Mike, they got questions. They're to me,
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  I'm gonna lower him. I gave him ten, ten wins.
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  I think ten wins out of the playoffs. I'm putting
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  him down to eight, Mike. And you know what Dax
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  Prescott's injury history. If he gets hurt, it's over. Joe Milton.
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  Unbelievable arm strength, awful accuracy.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're talking with Adam Captain football four before
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  we get out of here on this happy hour Friday.
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  The Eagles, I know it's the depth chart is compiled
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  by the PR staff. But I guess a couple of
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  things that stood out. I want to get your take
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  on him real quick. At linebacker, you had camp and Trotter.
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  Do we think they split time there?
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  Speaker 3: We fully expect that Johob Campbell will be starting. Now
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  here's the question, which we don't know who plays in Nickel.
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  Trotters a little bit more instinctive in coverage, so that
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  could happen. But the main back is going to be
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  Johab Campbell. That was already decided. We're not expecting the
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  surprise there might be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Adri Jackson and Jaquorian Bennett were listed as the co starters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're expecting not a lot, but Jackson lined up
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  there for the last two and a half weeks as
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  the primary starter. Now we should mention this, we're dropping
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  a We actually dropped a couple of things. Greg co
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  Seltz back with us other inside the Birds and we
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  did a really cold breakdown. Greg broke down about eight
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  to ten players for us. Our Patreon members already got
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  the show. I think that show's going to drop on money.
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  It's a chalk talk or they're going to get some
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  of this and I could tell you Greg thinks eventually
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  that your corn Bennet's gonna win that job because he's
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  just a better football player at this point than the
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  Dorry Jackson. Dory Jackson, if you have your brothers, he's
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  a third quarter at best. But because it didn't work
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  out for Ringo and they weren't able to get that
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  that big time corner to go against the opposite Mitchell,
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  this is what you have right now. It is what
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  it is, all right.
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  Speaker 1: The last one was safety, where they have both Sydney
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  Brown and mcuba. Now mcoba's injury might even keep him
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  in question for Thursday night. They signed Marcus Epps as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Marcus Apps a sign of the practice squad. So
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  Marcus Apps here, he knows the scheme. I know he didn't.
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  He wasn't coach Pyvit Fanjio. But he's playing in the
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  the scheme before Vic got here. Now here's the thing.
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  He's coming off the ACL injury which he had in
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  Week three at the Raiders. Last year he had a
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  minimum deal with the Patriots. He was released. The question
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  will be my and he's healthy as I understand it.
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  We don't know about mccooper for week one. It's not
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  good Mikey continues to miss practice. I'd be stunned if
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  he's starting week one because he's now at two different injuries. Right,
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  Vic Tanjo is not gonna want to play full time
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  if he's han't No, had not had gotten enough practice time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Adam Kaplan, look at the
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  Parsons deal the Eagles to put their depth chart out.
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  Also named eight captains today as they get ready for
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  the Dallas Cowboys. You can listen to the game right
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  here on ninety seven three ESPN and of course the
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  Inside the Birds podcast. You guys got all the coverage,
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  you got some new shows and all sorts of stuff
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  happening over there real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did announce so I could talk about it.
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  Derek Gunn and the Hall of Famer Ray Dinger. We
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  love Gunner and Ray is the best. And what a show,
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  what a thank Jeff Mosher for putting this together. Now,
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  you know wils I know both of those guys. But
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  with Jeff's concept, we're big concept company. More announced with
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  night tier three Patreon members, they run it. They get
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: That's an awesome show too, Derek Hunt and Ray Diddinger,
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  So everybody out there make sure you check out that
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  show on the Inside the Birds platform. And of course
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  football at four right here, Adam Kaplan on this Friday
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  edition and by this time, by the way, this time
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  next week, we will be recapping the Eagles game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. In fact, what the game was last year's on
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  Friday night, so we didn't get the We previewed it
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  in Brazil and then yes, we were revealed, Micha. We'll
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  see what happened.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man, we'll talk to you on Tuesday. Happy
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  Labor Day weekend to you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Mac.
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