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Vibe Sesh 26 - “I Am the Adult of My Childhood Now” | Travis Mayo · Vibe Sesh Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: He did the freaking bow, bro.
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SPEAKER_02: Travis,
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SPEAKER_00: how are you feeling, brother?
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
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SPEAKER_00: By the way, did you work out today?
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SPEAKER_02: I did.
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SPEAKER_02: I did work out today.
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SPEAKER_00: Bro, so you're juiced up with them hope molecules, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Very nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Very nice.
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SPEAKER_02: I like the play.
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SPEAKER_00: Explain to people.
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SPEAKER_00: Molecule this.
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SPEAKER_00: Cisco doesn't get it.
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SPEAKER_02: Cisco.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you.
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SPEAKER_02: So when you're working out,
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SPEAKER_02: the body, it screeks these molecules and they call them hope molecules.
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SPEAKER_02: And basically there's all these benefits to it.
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SPEAKER_02: And I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: I can go into it,
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SPEAKER_02: but I mean, everyone knows if you work out, it's better for you in general.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's just a little fun little tidbit that there's actually something
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SPEAKER_02: in you that's helping your body heal.
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SPEAKER_02: It's helping you think better.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's just, it goes hand in hand with working out.
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SPEAKER_02: But hey, look, you asked me how the day is, how I'm feeling.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm feeling good now that I'm looking at the live and I'm seeing all the love
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SPEAKER_02: that you have here.
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SPEAKER_02: This is great.
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SPEAKER_02: This is cool as shit.
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SPEAKER_02: But I'm wore out.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been a day, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm a dad, full-time job.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm making these videos, making this content.
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SPEAKER_02: And look, I had to show up regardless today.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's something that I stand by.
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SPEAKER_02: You make a commitment, you show up, you get it done.
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SPEAKER_02: So here we are.
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SPEAKER_02: And look, you got so much love in here.
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SPEAKER_02: This is great.
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SPEAKER_00: Travis, this is the first time we've gotten this much love.
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SPEAKER_00: What you're seeing right now.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not right, Cisco.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not joking.
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SPEAKER_00: We get a couple of comments here and there right now.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's your followers or mine or both or what is going on.
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SPEAKER_00: But like this energy.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know
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SPEAKER_00: what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: It's in the air.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me get this set up.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys, camera is straight up on your face.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me get set up here.
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SPEAKER_00: Show your beautiful face, baby.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Vibe Samurai, Korean Brazilian, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Fala Portuguese.
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SPEAKER_00: Eu sei que você tem mulher brasileira, certo?
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SPEAKER_02: Lala, Lala.
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SPEAKER_02: Tudo bem.
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SPEAKER_00: I did
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SPEAKER_02: a little bit of Duolingo.
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SPEAKER_02: I can say I have a house, I have a car.
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SPEAKER_02: So my wife is Brazilian.
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SPEAKER_02: So we spent a few weeks in Brazil.
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SPEAKER_02: And I tell you, that's the one time that you are really under pressure.
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SPEAKER_02: Because everyone's speaking Portuguese.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife, she's an interpreter, so she interprets professionally.
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SPEAKER_02: So she was doing it full time when we were in Brazil.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I thought that was interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: What's interesting though is one of your pillars, guys,
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SPEAKER_00: we're going to talk about his whole worldview and what his content is based on.
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SPEAKER_00: It's based on five pillars.
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SPEAKER_00: But before we get deep into the To one of those pillars,
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SPEAKER_00: one of your, I don't know, and this is a question of mine too.
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SPEAKER_00: Like it's certainly the language pillar where you talk about language and
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SPEAKER_00: the impact psychologically and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: That seems to be some of your best engagement videos.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering if like, that's what you, it matters if you had to rank your pillars.
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SPEAKER_00: Is there like a number one or five?
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SPEAKER_00: But like, I'm surprised you didn't learn Portuguese because you're a language guy.
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SPEAKER_00: You talk so much about language.
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SPEAKER_00: So yeah, what's going on there?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, honestly, just to go, let's back it up.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm from South Louisiana.
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SPEAKER_02: I am from South Louisiana, an hour and a half south of New Orleans.
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SPEAKER_02: Very small.
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SPEAKER_02: It's Lafourche Parish, La Rose, Louisiana.
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SPEAKER_02: Shout out.
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SPEAKER_02: Down the bayou.
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SPEAKER_02: Literally, there's a bayou that runs through my hometown.
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SPEAKER_02: And so the only languages I've ever been exposed to is Spanish.
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SPEAKER_02: You have a lot of Spanish workers.
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SPEAKER_02: So I grew up working in the oil field.
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SPEAKER_02: Roustabat, which is basically a yard hand.
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SPEAKER_02: Rigger.
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SPEAKER_02: Connecting and unconnecting for the crane,
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SPEAKER_02: forklift operator,
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SPEAKER_02: shipping and receiving, production control, and project management.
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SPEAKER_02: Did a little bit of insurance sales.
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SPEAKER_02: I see you have a financial background.
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SPEAKER_02: And now I sell aftermarket parts for wind turbines.
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SPEAKER_02: So I work for Siemens.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I say all that.
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SPEAKER_02: I never had much exposure to language until I moved to Miami.
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SPEAKER_02: So I lived in Louisiana.
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SPEAKER_02: I lived in Texas.
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SPEAKER_02: I lived in Florida, Jacksonville, Miami.
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SPEAKER_02: And then so when I moved to Miami,
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SPEAKER_02: that's when I got a lot of exposure to a lot of different languages.
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SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I would only learn how to cuss, right?
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SPEAKER_02: You learn how to cuss.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the best thing to do.
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SPEAKER_02: You learn how to cuss.
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SPEAKER_02: People love you.
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SPEAKER_02: Number one,
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SPEAKER_02: language,
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SPEAKER_02: especially Lara Boroditsky's, her whole theory is that language helps shape reality.
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SPEAKER_02: And for me,
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SPEAKER_02: it resonated because,
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SPEAKER_02: and this is just,
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SPEAKER_02: I grew up,
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SPEAKER_02: I grew up always loving vocabulary,
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SPEAKER_02: spelling bees in school, you know, just because There was this program in Virginia.
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SPEAKER_02: When I lived in Virginia and I was maybe 10, 11 years old, it was called AR.
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SPEAKER_02: You ever heard of Accelerated Reader Program?
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SPEAKER_02: So you read a book, you take a test, and you get points.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, I didn't give you my full backstory, but I ended up in Virginia.
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SPEAKER_02: So you said in your video, I come from chaos.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I think a lot of people in America, we all have our own form of chaos that became mine.
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SPEAKER_02: It's Like most people, drugs,
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SPEAKER_02: never had any kind of mentor or any adult in my family,
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SPEAKER_02: in my life, that was worth looking up to and worth following.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Not even one guy?
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SPEAKER_02: Not even one standout?
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SPEAKER_02: I think it would be my grandpa, if anybody.
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SPEAKER_02: I lived with my grandpa for a few years.
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SPEAKER_02: And so my grandpa, Daniel Boone, he was Daniel Boone.
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SPEAKER_02: Such a strong name.
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SPEAKER_02: Such a strong name.
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SPEAKER_02: They called it him.
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SPEAKER_02: They called him T-Boom.
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SPEAKER_02: He was a police officer for a few years.
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SPEAKER_02: But he was the one guy that I had.
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SPEAKER_02: So basically what happened was I was always moving around,
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SPEAKER_02: living with my mom a little while, living with my aunt a little while.
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SPEAKER_02: Eventually at 16 I just left and I started living with friends and I just kind
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SPEAKER_02: of eventually found my way and went on.
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SPEAKER_02: But there was a stint in my life where they sent me to Virginia to go live
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SPEAKER_02: with my Uncle Don and my Aunt Loretta.
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SPEAKER_02: I had no idea why they sent me.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess they just couldn't take care of me at the moment.
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SPEAKER_02: So I went to Virginia and this is me.
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SPEAKER_02: I went to 10 different schools, new schools before I hit high school.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was always a new kid, always had to be uncomfortable.
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SPEAKER_02: Or make myself comfortable in uncomfortable situations.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I say all this because
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SPEAKER_02: the accelerated reader program is what really got me It was my thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I had no friends in Virginia.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't know anybody, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I was a new kid.
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SPEAKER_02: So what I did was I was introduced to AR and I kind of liked reading,
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SPEAKER_02: but I loved reading to get points so that I can take the points and go buy me stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: So I read all the Goosebumps series, Hatchet, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I think everyone read Gary Paulson's Hatchet.
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SPEAKER_02: That was like my favorite book forever.
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SPEAKER_02: But that was my first real introduction into language and reading
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SPEAKER_02: and really getting involved and really understanding that in order for me to be able
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SPEAKER_02: to effectively communicate with as many people as possible,
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SPEAKER_02: your vocabulary has to be on par.
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SPEAKER_02: You need to be able to be engaging in conversations.
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SPEAKER_02: And so that's the language piece.
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SPEAKER_02: And my wife does give me shit because she says, yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: you talk a lot about language, but you still haven't learned Portuguese yet.
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SPEAKER_02: And so what's the
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SPEAKER_00: answer, bro?
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SPEAKER_00: What's the answer?
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SPEAKER_02: The answer is it's on the F and to-do list.
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Let's go.
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SPEAKER_00: I've got it.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't want to sit here and say, hey, I'm a busy guy and it's always something.
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SPEAKER_02: But being a dad, full time job, I've been putting out videos now for about nine months.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I've only missed six days.
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SPEAKER_02: So every day has been post and recording.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's its own kind of stress.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: It's its own kind of preach.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So you've got that.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I'm working all day.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I want to be a very present father.
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SPEAKER_02: My dad left when I was two.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's not going to be somebody that I'm going to be, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to be, and I'm grateful.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm blessed.
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SPEAKER_02: I get to work from home.
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SPEAKER_02: So we recently moved here in Orlando, maybe a month and a half ago.
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SPEAKER_02: Prior to that, we were in Nashville.
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SPEAKER_02: And when I was in Nashville, I was working remote.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't have the office.
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SPEAKER_02: We actually came to Orlando so I can go in the office some days.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know if you guys, do you have, are you a full-time content guy?
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SPEAKER_02: Samurai?
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00: I do some coaching, but all remote.
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SPEAKER_00: All remote
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SPEAKER_02: for me.
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SPEAKER_02: All remote.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's flexible because I can control my calendar.
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SPEAKER_00: I can control how many people I take and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And before I go any further, who's this other fella here?
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SPEAKER_00: Before I go any further, who's this creepy dude on that freaking video?
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SPEAKER_02: No, hey, good looking kid.
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SPEAKER_02: Good looking kid.
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SPEAKER_02: You look young.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm 37.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll be 38 this month.
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SPEAKER_01: And I say kid because you look 20.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 25.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Introduce yourself, Cisco.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what's your name?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Cisco.
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SPEAKER_01: I would like to thank I'm a Vibe Samurai Junior.
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SPEAKER_01: Very nice.
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SPEAKER_01: This Vibe sesh.
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SPEAKER_01: For over a year now, started on X, Twitter, where it was audio-only rooms.
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SPEAKER_01: We were hosting it.
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SPEAKER_01: Thousands of people have come in and come out.
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SPEAKER_01: When he popped off on social media outside of Twitter,
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SPEAKER_01: so TikTok and Instagram, he morphed it into now Instagram lives.
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SPEAKER_01: So I've just continued.
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SPEAKER_01: He's asked me to be his co-host.
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SPEAKER_01: And I enjoy the conversations.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's why I'm here.
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SPEAKER_01: So I guess I'm just kind of learning the art of conversation a little bit,
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SPEAKER_01: just being present, listen, and ask great questions.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's all language.
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SPEAKER_00: How would you tie what we do, Cisco?
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SPEAKER_00: Because he's talking about language.
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SPEAKER_00: How would you tie that?
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SPEAKER_01: What we taught is this idea of threading.
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SPEAKER_01: And every word someone is saying,
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SPEAKER_01: I think of it like it's a potential rabbit hole to explore something.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, why did they say that?
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SPEAKER_01: Why did they giggle before saying that?
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SPEAKER_01: And there's all these little moments you can catch and either let it go or explore.
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SPEAKER_01: But that's where your natural curiosity leads.
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SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, you know, this is entirely improv.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's just like,
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SPEAKER_01: you're just going with the flow and the agenda evolves as the conversation goes on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: This is actually the first time I've ever done a live with anyone.
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SPEAKER_02: I did one live on TikTok.
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SPEAKER_02: It went well.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, we had about, I got to about 40 something people.
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SPEAKER_02: We were, I was just, just going and going and going.
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SPEAKER_02: You hosted, you, you opened the room?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, why didn't you continue if you liked it?
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SPEAKER_02: So I did it, what, last week?
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SPEAKER_02: That was just the first time.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's just one of those things that I had been telling my wife,
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SPEAKER_02: like, I'm just going to do it.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it'll be good because, you know, all the videos I put out, they're scripted videos.
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SPEAKER_02: I spend time.
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SPEAKER_02: And so it's not really me.
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SPEAKER_02: We're all just riffing.
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SPEAKER_02: And no one knows my backstory.
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SPEAKER_02: No one knows anything like that.
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SPEAKER_02: So I was like, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: Let's just get on there and see what people are thinking.
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SPEAKER_02: And it was great.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a good experience.
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SPEAKER_02: I just man, I'm new to all of this.
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SPEAKER_02: I work, you know, I've been working.
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SPEAKER_02: It was oil field majority of my life.
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SPEAKER_02: I did hard,
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SPEAKER_02: shitty jobs for a very long time until I got to the point to where I was working
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SPEAKER_02: in Jacksonville and the next level.
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SPEAKER_02: Required a degree.
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SPEAKER_02: And I kept getting looked over for those positions.
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SPEAKER_02: So I said, you know what?
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SPEAKER_02: F that.
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SPEAKER_02: And I enrolled and I did six years night school.
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SPEAKER_02: I got my bachelor's in business.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I'm able to work from home and I got this job and it's all great.
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SPEAKER_02: Best salary.
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SPEAKER_02: I get a bonus at the end of the year.
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SPEAKER_02: It's awesome.
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SPEAKER_02: But I believe that everyone should be working on the exit plan.
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SPEAKER_02: So if anyone is listening, my coworker, If you hear me, I'm not trying to leave my job, okay?
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SPEAKER_02: But I do believe everyone should have an exit plan, right?
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SPEAKER_02: You must be working on something for yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's just something that me and, you know, my friends back home really didn't agree in.
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SPEAKER_02: They're just like, you know, I got my job.
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SPEAKER_02: This is what it is.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, maybe if I put in another few years, they might think of me for a supervisor position.
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SPEAKER_02: But any conversation you ever have with my friends back home,
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SPEAKER_02: Would have been, man, I hate my job.
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SPEAKER_02: I hate this.
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SPEAKER_02: And I hate, you know, it sucks.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's like, okay, yeah, I get it.
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SPEAKER_02: But what are you doing about it?
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SPEAKER_02: What are you doing about it?
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SPEAKER_02: What's the plan?
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SPEAKER_02: What are we working for?
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SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of part of what this hosting and content creation, all this has kind of become.
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SPEAKER_02: And I do want to ask a few questions.
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SPEAKER_02: I know that this is supposed to be about me, but I see.
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SPEAKER_00: This is a conversation, bro.
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SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, perfect.
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SPEAKER_02: Look, I heard in, I think it was either...
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I listened to your Asian, the Asian podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't remember.
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SPEAKER_00: For Skin Freedom!
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SPEAKER_00: For Skin Freedom!
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, so... Look, that was how I was...
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SPEAKER_02: That was how I was introduced.
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SPEAKER_00: In the beginning, I was DMing him.
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SPEAKER_00: He's like, but what do you do?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't understand you.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I said, just listen to, I sent him to Spotify or something.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the fucking first one he listened to of all of us.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he was like, I'm in, man.
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SPEAKER_02: I listened and I was like, okay, yeah, this is a safe place.
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SPEAKER_02: This is a fucking safe place right here.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's funny.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But Travis, I'm sorry, you were going to say something?
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SPEAKER_02: No, no.
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SPEAKER_02: The only question.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: I could probably hit this later.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm new to this, making videos and everything.
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SPEAKER_02: And it just kind of evolved into the brand that it is now and the pillars.
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SPEAKER_02: It started with a bunch of topics that I had written down in my phone and my notebook.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm a note taker.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been this way my whole life.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I had about 200 topics that I was genuinely interested in.
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SPEAKER_02: And what my plan was,
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SPEAKER_02: I was going to do a school community,
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SPEAKER_02: I was going to try and do an online learning platform,
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SPEAKER_02: and just kind of share some of the stuff that I thought, look,
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SPEAKER_02: the ultimate message is,
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SPEAKER_02: I think that if people really Spent time understanding metacognition,
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SPEAKER_02: thinking about your thinking and thinking how you're talking to yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I was very, very vulgar and very vile to myself for so long, many years.
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SPEAKER_02: And all this was just instilled from my environment, from the people around me.
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SPEAKER_02: And it was just natural.
15:06
SPEAKER_02: I would go down these deep, dark rabbit holes and think, what's the worst case scenario?
15:12
SPEAKER_02: So I could always be prepared.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:15
SPEAKER_02: I had to break out of this for me to start really coming out of my shell
15:20
SPEAKER_02: and even wanting to talk about some of these topics I was talking about.
15:23
SPEAKER_02: So that was the learning platform idea.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Two, three years passed.
15:27
SPEAKER_02: I have all these topics, all these notes, and I'm not doing anything with it.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: So one day I was like, you know what?
15:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to start posting.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start posting this shit online and see what people say and got some traction.
15:38
SPEAKER_02: I've got A good following, you know.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Joe Rogan is
15:42
SPEAKER_00: following you.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Joe Rogan is following you.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Joe Rogan is following me.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, he sent me a message.
15:46
SPEAKER_02: He's like, hey, man, this is an interesting page.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: I just want to thank you for putting this out there.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: Bro, bro, bro.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: He's following me, too.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: This dude.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: He's a different level.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: That's an amazing message.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: I made a video.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: It was about like some alien shit, obviously.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: That's the one that he like, he fucking DMs me and he's like, bro, super fucking awesome.
16:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, like great job.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: Keep going.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: Why is he doing that?
16:10
SPEAKER_00: I was like, right.
16:12
SPEAKER_02: You got us all frizzle frazzled, Joe.
16:15
SPEAKER_02: What the hell?
16:15
SPEAKER_02: So I was, I was talking to my wife.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: I was like, I was like, you think that's him or you think that's his team?
16:22
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
16:22
SPEAKER_02: I had the same question.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: And I even,
16:26
SPEAKER_02: I screenshotted his profile,
16:28
SPEAKER_02: you know, 20 million, however many followers or whatever.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: And I put it in Claude and I was like, Claude, does this look fake to you?
16:34
SPEAKER_02: How could they fake this many followers?
16:35
SPEAKER_02: Is this a fake Joe Rogan that messaged me?
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Trying to see, but I have heard him.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: I did worse, dude.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: I like, he followed me.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you didn't do this, but he followed me.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: And then I took a screenshot of it and I said on my stories, oh my gosh, Joe is following me.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: And I was high, so I tagged him.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: So he gets that message.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: And then I get another message,
16:58
SPEAKER_00: tagging Joe Rogan again, saying something weird about like, oh, he's following me.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: And then he didn't say anything, you know?
17:07
SPEAKER_00: And then I said, hey brother, thank you very much, Bubba.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: And then he like gave me a heart.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: It was embarrassing.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: I did the whole starstruck thing, you know?
17:16
SPEAKER_02: Same thing.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: I put it on my story.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: I was like, guys, look at what
17:22
SPEAKER_02: happened.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: And so like my friends back home, I got one up.
17:26
SPEAKER_02: My buddy Jacob, he fucks with me.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: He messaged me one day.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: He's like, hey, so are you famous now?
17:32
SPEAKER_02: And my friend was a famous guy.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, no, not even.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: If anything, if anything, I don't feel I don't feel anything right when.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: OK, 90,000 followers on Instagram.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: That's just from good content and good messaging.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: That's not me.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: That's just so I take the position of a translator of messages.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:54
SPEAKER_02: I am not that.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: I am not an expert.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: I am not a linguist.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: I am not.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: People have asked me in comments.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: They're like, are you a professor?
18:03
SPEAKER_00: I am not a professor.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: I am.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: I am someone who is a curious man.
18:11
SPEAKER_02: I believe in dreaming.
18:13
SPEAKER_02: I believe in big goals and I'm ambitious and I'm not scared to hop on a podcast
18:20
SPEAKER_02: with some fella that I've never even chatted with before and make this shit happen.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: Because what the hell?
18:28
SPEAKER_02: We're all living this life.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: We're all living this.
18:30
SPEAKER_02: We don't know why we're here.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: We have no idea.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has theories.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: Every single thing that anyone's ever put out, any topic I've ever read, it is a theory.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Sure, we may have some conclusion around science and what we call science,
18:45
SPEAKER_02: but even the act of observing something being measured changes the measurement.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: We don't know what this is.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: We don't know what's going on here.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
18:56
SPEAKER_02: So let's make the best of it.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: And I just I wish if I had one message I could share with people,
19:00
SPEAKER_02: it's that you don't have to suffer.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: This whole this whole experience, there are all of these power systems that we live in.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: We have to go to work.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: We have to pay bills.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: We have to send our kids to school if that's something that you can do.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: The education seems suspect.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: The things are teaching us.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Why are we learning these things?
19:21
SPEAKER_02: Whenever you get outside of that education system and you start
19:23
SPEAKER_02: to just really just start being curious and reading and looking into other things,
19:28
SPEAKER_02: it's interesting how what you've learned in school and some of the things
19:31
SPEAKER_02: that you can find just going on even now and even in our history,
19:36
SPEAKER_02: it's completely fucking different.
19:39
SPEAKER_02: What we've been taught,
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SPEAKER_02: and I don't want to go into like a big education rabbit hole,
19:43
SPEAKER_02: but the education- This is the
19:45
SPEAKER_00: hidden layer part that you like talking about, right?
19:48
SPEAKER_00: This is the hidden layer you're going through, so keep going.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Give us an example.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: I just think that this is such a miraculous and beautiful experience,
19:58
SPEAKER_02: and we get to do this,
19:59
SPEAKER_02: and we get to wake up,
20:00
SPEAKER_02: and we get to interact with other people,
20:02
SPEAKER_02: and whether it's good or bad,
20:05
SPEAKER_02: You have the power to control the perception and how you view it.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, it goes back, we can go back into the language.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: So you have two people that look at the ocean.
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SPEAKER_02: One person has never studied marine biology,
20:20
SPEAKER_02: never was curious about what was underneath the water.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: When they look at it, they see water and they're like, wow, that's people.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: And then you have another person who spent their life studying marine biology.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: They spent their life studying what's going on underneath the water.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: When they look at the water, it's completely different, right?
20:36
SPEAKER_02: They see a beautiful world hidden underneath this water and the waves.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: And you can have that.
20:43
SPEAKER_02: We lose something growing up in all of these hard power systems.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: We lose imagination.
20:50
SPEAKER_02: We lose our childhood feeling.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: Just,
20:54
SPEAKER_02: I just wish that we could all spend more time trying to keep that and get that back
20:59
SPEAKER_02: because that's where the magic is.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: That's where, I mean, there was, there
21:03
SPEAKER_00: was bro.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: All right.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot
21:05
SPEAKER_02: of talk.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: You watch some videos.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: You did it.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: You did a little bit and I've watched some of your stuff too.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: I love how some of it's put together.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: The through line, you start with like a very common And then it goes somewhere.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: And I'm with you on the journey on the message.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, how the fuck did he get this and that together?
21:28
SPEAKER_02: But it works.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: Travis, let me ask you something.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: So you talk about community and this and that,
21:36
SPEAKER_00: because I am starting a little community called
21:39
SPEAKER_00: the Intellectual Omnivores right now.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: And so Intellectual Omnivores, you can talk about anything.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: You got an open mind.
21:45
SPEAKER_00: You're Curious.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: You're willing to explore.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: So now we have about like 200 members that we're slowly growing.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: But let me ask you this.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: So for you, you're a smart dude.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: You're a well-read dude.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: It sounds like you have good friends.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: Like, do you have a lot of people that you can talk about this kind of stuff
22:02
SPEAKER_00: with this kind of range?
22:03
SPEAKER_00: How many do you have in your life?
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Because you work at Simmons,
22:06
SPEAKER_00: a lot of smart dudes at Simmons and not necessarily have anything to do
22:09
SPEAKER_00: with being smart, right?
22:10
SPEAKER_00: Like I was in high finance and when I think back,
22:13
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't talk to anybody about this kind of stuff.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, like they were too busy talking about bullshit, you know?
22:18
SPEAKER_00: And so you just kind of go with the bullshit, right?
22:21
SPEAKER_00: But I knew I wanted to talk more about more stuff.
22:24
SPEAKER_00: So how many people do you have in your life?
22:29
SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of part to why I started posting.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: Because,
22:36
SPEAKER_02: you know,
22:37
SPEAKER_02: acquaintances, I've got more acquaintances than I fucking know what to do with.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: I've got hundreds and hundreds of people that I've met in several states and cities.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of people that I could, sure, I could probably hit up and, hey, man, how you been?
22:49
SPEAKER_02: And the conversation would pick up right where I left off.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: But, man, honestly, it's me.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: It's me and my wife.
22:56
SPEAKER_02: I've got two really good friends back home who...
23:00
SPEAKER_02: You know,
23:01
SPEAKER_02: we're not even really talking much now because for years it was,
23:07
SPEAKER_02: you know, everyone's going through life.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has their own problems.
23:12
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has their own bills and responsibilities and duties that they have to pay.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: So for me to always be the person,
23:19
SPEAKER_02: and this is me trying to give people grace,
23:21
SPEAKER_02: but for me to be the person to always say, hey, man, it's not that serious.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: I need you to get out of that hard mindset that you have.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: And I know that, I know that I know you got to do this, Billy.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: I know work sucks and I know you've got your life and things aren't the best
23:36
SPEAKER_02: for you right now,
23:38
SPEAKER_02: but I need you to get out of that and let's go talk
23:40
SPEAKER_02: about some existential crisis type shit, right?
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk about why the fuck we're even waking up in the morning and what's
23:46
SPEAKER_02: the whole purpose behind all this.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk about how we can transform our lives.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk about if we spend time reading more and learning and educating ourselves,
23:56
SPEAKER_02: it'll actually open up more Cognitively to where not that I'm seeing
24:01
SPEAKER_02: a different reality than you,
24:02
SPEAKER_02: but I am perceiving my own version of what I create inside my own body
24:08
SPEAKER_02: and my own life that if you would spend the time and just be slightly curious
24:14
SPEAKER_02: about it and put all that duty and hard work and all the shit that we know
24:18
SPEAKER_02: that we have to do, the bills, the taxes, the insurance, all the shit.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no shit.
24:22
SPEAKER_02: We have to do that.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: But if you can't step outside of that, And start going inward and asking some questions inward.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you even like to do?
24:30
SPEAKER_02: Because my friends right now back home, it's work, maybe drink on the weekends, and then repeat.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: And I did that too for years.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: No shame, no hate, no nothing.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: Me too, bro.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Me too.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Years.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: Years.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: Years.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm broke.
24:45
SPEAKER_02: I tell people,
24:47
SPEAKER_02: whenever I talk about myself,
24:48
SPEAKER_02: I will tell people that I have only really,
24:51
SPEAKER_02: so I'm 37 now, I've really only just became an adult these past seven years.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of that has to do with being married and not settled down.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm married and I love being married and I love my wife and I'm She's been my,
25:05
SPEAKER_02: my tag team partner through this shit,
25:08
SPEAKER_02: but I've only really became an adult these past few years.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: And I think that sounds, but I've always had a job, right?
25:14
SPEAKER_02: I left when I was 16 and I've been working ever since I've done mostly majority oil field stuff.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: And then I followed, you know, this business closes and I follow and do all
25:24
SPEAKER_01: that, but.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of friends,
25:28
SPEAKER_02: but I don't really have people that know me,
25:32
SPEAKER_02: other than the two buddies that I have back home who I don't even really talk
25:36
SPEAKER_02: to right now.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: So that's why I took it online.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: And that's why I said yes to this,
25:41
SPEAKER_02: because I've listened to some of the things you're talking about.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: I hear about the Omnivore, the Intellectual Omnivore Club.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: I think it's badass what you're doing.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: And part of why I wanted to be here was to ask you, How does that work?
25:55
SPEAKER_02: Because I see you have five, 600,000 followers now, right?
25:59
SPEAKER_02: And you did this in four or five months, right?
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Six months or so.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Do you owe majority of that to your live shows, do you think?
26:10
SPEAKER_02: Or do you think it's purely content?
26:12
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: 99% content.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: 99% content,
26:13
SPEAKER_00: you know?
26:14
SPEAKER_00: And then growing the clones.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: The club is very small right now.
26:23
SPEAKER_00: We just started like two weeks ago.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Bro, I'm just figuring all this stuff out too.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: I get paid on like TikTok and I do some coaching calls.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm not like calling right now.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
26:38
SPEAKER_00: So I'm trying to figure out.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to ask you because you've got your Amazon thing on the reading list.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Are you making money on that?
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Is that...
26:45
SPEAKER_00: A little bit.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: It's very light.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: So the most money that I've made was TikTok views and then Facebook right behind it.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Facebook, I was surprised.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Facebook pays well.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: I heard.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even on Facebook.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: I heard it pays well.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Bro, do it now because everything you post on Instagram,
27:03
SPEAKER_02: you can cross post automatically to Facebook.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Start that today because Facebook is...
27:08
SPEAKER_00: Damn, I can't write this down.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
27:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: So, and then, hey, I got a little taste of internet money.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm here.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Look at me now.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: We're online.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: Right?
27:19
SPEAKER_02: I want to grow a brand.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: And so, I just kind of... Internet money.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: So, like, I started putting some stuff out there because of what you said.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: I didn't have many people to talk to.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: Right?
27:32
SPEAKER_02: So, I'm like, you know what?
27:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to start sharing.
27:35
SPEAKER_02: Start sharing.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: And then it's growing.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'm...
27:38
SPEAKER_02: There is about a good...
27:40
SPEAKER_02: I would say maybe one...
27:41
SPEAKER_02: 2,000 people baseline that if I post something, it'll at minimum get to them.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: And I am familiar with
27:51
SPEAKER_02: A handful of these people now because they're always there in the comments.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: We're sharing and exchanging ideas in the comments.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: I had this idea about social media and posting and like this humility built into it.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, I'm going to be judged and people are going to think these things.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: But I'm a grown ass man.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm not worried about these things.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's that's another thing.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: If you can get to the point to where the opinions of others mean nothing,
28:14
SPEAKER_02: then my brother, you are on the way.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: Travis, let me bring something up here because...
28:24
SPEAKER_00: I forget.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: I was looking through your content.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: So first of all, let me just set this up.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: So in the beginning,
28:34
SPEAKER_00: so Travis really started posting from what I could tell, like November 2025.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: All right.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Before that,
28:42
SPEAKER_00: it was a bunch of reposts of Joe Rogan,
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Chris Williamson, like all the people that we all followed together.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: And then At some point,
28:50
SPEAKER_00: I think it was November 10th, 2025,
28:53
SPEAKER_00: you were in your car and you were talking about mystic Jesus,
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeshua versus religion.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: And you went through that whole thing.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: I felt like that was your first thing, first video.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: But what I loved about it, dude, I just got to it.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: I was like, let me check out the first thing I see him making a video.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: And then towards the end, you were comparing religion versus Yeshua.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: And maybe you can explain to the audience that difference.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: But towards the back of the video,
29:20
SPEAKER_00: you said the following,
29:21
SPEAKER_00: which is interesting because you also,
29:23
SPEAKER_00: like in some of your videos, you try to stay away from the woo, right?
29:29
SPEAKER_00: You try to say, we don't even have to go there, the mysticism, right?
29:33
SPEAKER_00: So I thought you were like, oh, maybe this is not spiritual.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: But then I saw this video and you said, I believe God is innately within us.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: We are all connected.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: People you see is just the universe playing this big game with you.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: It's all a reflection.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: How you feel and your perspective when you see someone is something that's inside of you.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: And that's why you see it that way.
29:57
SPEAKER_00: The same person doesn't see what you see in the way that you see it.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: And what's amazing is you have control over your own perspective, guys.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Build that perspective, grow, learn.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: Let me know what you think.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Bro, that was fire, bro.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: You were dropped.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: That was a massive...
30:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, sauce dump right there.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
30:18
SPEAKER_00: And that was your first video, bro.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: And then, hold on, before we let Travis speak.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: And then at some point, you, okay,
30:25
SPEAKER_00: and then we have like a funny interlude because you said you're like all controlled
30:29
SPEAKER_00: and zen, but I saw you shirtless with your tattoo over there.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: You fucking mad at some troll.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: The comment of the troll.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: And he was like, you motherfucking, you're a fucking bot.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: You can't even put up a profile pic.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: And then at some point you decided on November 10th, 2025.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: And then you did that.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, and then someone said to you,
30:57
SPEAKER_00: On that video,
30:59
SPEAKER_00: somebody said to you,
31:00
SPEAKER_00: I think it's time you get a podcast and reach as many as you can.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: And you replied, I think so, too, working on it.
31:08
SPEAKER_00: Damn, bro, I think Joe Rogan's next for you, baby.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: So a little bit of backstory.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: I grew up down the bayou and one of the.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: So fighting fist fighting is is everyone's fist fighting.
31:27
SPEAKER_02: My Aunt BB, Billie Faye, she's a woman and I seen her beat up several dudes and other women.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: A lot of bar fights.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: My Aunt Raquel, she was known for fighting.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: She was a tall woman.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: She eventually was,
31:48
SPEAKER_02: I guess I can,
31:50
SPEAKER_02: just so that you guys can,
31:51
SPEAKER_02: everyone has their story, but my Aunt Raquel was shot by her drug dealer.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: So that was years ago.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: I lost my mom when I was 23.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: My younger brother, CJ, he was shot by a 14-year-old.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: He was 19 at the time at a party.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: Now, this is my mom passed away.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: My little brother, CJ, goes live with his dad in Raceland.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: If anyone from hometown knows Raceland,
32:18
SPEAKER_02: if anyone's on the live from my hometown listening,
32:21
SPEAKER_02: They know down Halledon, it's just not a good place to be.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: So my mom passed away.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: He goes live with dad.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: His name was Bounce.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: And so just bad upbringing.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: And so that happened with him.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: And it's just been a few years ago.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: My grandpa passed.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: My Uncle Boom, Daniel's son, he
32:39
SPEAKER_01: did 20
32:40
SPEAKER_02: years.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: In jail, you know, third, fourth strike doing stuff.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Now, this is my family and these are the people.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: So growing up down the bayou, everyone was fist fighting.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: That was a thing.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: The people that I grew up with, I wasn't a fighter.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: I got beat up more times than I ever whooped ass.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: But.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: There was a time eventually after getting my ass whooped so much and
33:03
SPEAKER_02: then being around people who were actually training and like to fight
33:07
SPEAKER_02: and mix martial arts.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: And so naturally just being in the environment, I got involved in that.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: My little brother, he's a golden glove boxer.
33:15
SPEAKER_02: So he boxes, he's got hands.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: If he's watching,
33:18
SPEAKER_02: he just knows that he can never fuck with the older brother because I'm bigger
33:22
SPEAKER_02: and I'm stronger and all he has is hands and I've got elbows and knees.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: But the whole interesting point is whenever you see the videos of me,
33:36
SPEAKER_02: all you see is like this philosophical conversation.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: You see me getting into like the Fermi paradox and talking about
33:42
SPEAKER_02: the great existential crisis of being a human.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: But what you don't know is that, man, I'm just a guy.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm just a dad.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm a hard worker and I mix martial arts.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: I enjoy, I do heavy bag work at least three or four times a week.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: When I was in Nashville, go to Nashville training, MMA camp.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: And then you go,
34:03
SPEAKER_02: I went to a session and we didn't, I showed up and it was an intermediate session.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't know this.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: I thought I was going in there for somebody to train me, but they were doing sparring.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: So I got to put in some work with some randoms.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: And honestly, I surprised the shit out of myself.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: I thought that I wasn't.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: The guy even told me, he's like, Hey,
34:25
SPEAKER_02: you need to stop.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: He's like, calm down.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: You getting a little, I'm like, dude, I don't, this is my first time being in here sparring.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I'm just excited.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: He's like, yeah, calm down.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: So, but yeah, one dude, one dude, I tapped, I tapped him and it was a good, a good hit.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: And he came back and I was like, dude, I'm so sorry.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: He kind of leans and he's like, it's okay.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: You want to go to war?
34:47
SPEAKER_02: I was like, no, dude, I don't want to go to war.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: I'm just here for fucking training.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: I want to go to war.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
34:54
Damn, man.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so Yeshua.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: The Yeshua, that was something.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: So I want to just set the bar here.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't subscribe to any single religion.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't subscribe to any religion.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: I believe that from just what I've heard and the things that I've read and
35:23
SPEAKER_02: the things that I've listened to, it's Christ consciousness.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: So that is something innately in everyone, right?
35:31
SPEAKER_02: God is within.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: And every person that you see in life is just a reflection of you.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I was trying to say is that If you look at someone and you see
35:44
SPEAKER_02: and something in you triggers, right?
35:45
SPEAKER_02: If I look at Samurai and I think, man, this dude's got more money than me.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: He's probably in a nice house.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm feeling the sense of lack.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: It's not that you actually have those things.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: It's that I feel something in me that makes me believe that about you.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: And you just said that you're not making a bunch of money and you're right.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about you.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
36:08
SPEAKER_02: I just think that if more people can get outside of themselves and really...
36:13
SPEAKER_01: Would that be like a power system?
36:15
SPEAKER_01: Because you were talking about like grand power systems,
36:18
SPEAKER_01: but could it be that micro and it has that
36:20
SPEAKER_02: control?
36:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, a lot of what we believe, all of us.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: Where are you from, Cisco?
36:29
SPEAKER_02: Massachusetts.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: Massachusetts.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anyone from Massachusetts.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: Get out of here.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: What am I from New York?
36:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm from New York originally.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: Queens, right?
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Raising whom?
36:42
SPEAKER_02: I ran a search on you, my boy.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh, damn.
36:45
SPEAKER_00: He came prepared, too.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think...
36:54
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's cookie cutter here in America.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: We all go through the same education system.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: We're all watching the same news.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: We're all watching same social media.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: I feel like everyone's kind of real cookie cutter in America.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: And in order for you not to be, you're probably not well known.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: You probably stick to yourself.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: You probably have a family.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: You believe in those values.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: And those are the people that I'm looking for because majority of the people
37:20
SPEAKER_02: that I encounter, I feel like not, I don't even want to say the matrix, right?
37:25
SPEAKER_02: But this whole thing that we're experiencing, it's all an illusion, right?
37:32
SPEAKER_02: The fact that we have to pay the bills and the insurance and do all these and go
37:36
SPEAKER_02: to school and,
37:37
SPEAKER_02: you know,
37:37
SPEAKER_02: I got to climb the corporate ladder and all these fucking metaphors
37:41
SPEAKER_02: for how we should live our life.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: All this is fake.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: This is not real.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: This is thousands of years of power control, you taking control, the 13 families of America.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, so if you can see through the illusion and I see you,
38:01
SPEAKER_02: I just see you as another human, you going through exactly what I'm going through.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: So if you can forget the whole, oh, well,
38:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm a Christian and you're a Catholic, you're a Jew and I'm white and you're black.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: My guys, none of that fucking matters.
38:17
SPEAKER_02: That was instilled by some other people and all these systems in place.
38:21
SPEAKER_02: They want that shit.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: And we have the power, right?
38:25
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to say let's go inform 2,000 people and go start the next war.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: No, but we can grow
38:33
SPEAKER_00: from there, bro.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: It starts small and we get to a position where we actually have power,
38:38
SPEAKER_00: cultural and political power.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: You've started.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: You've got the Intellectual Omnivore Club.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: You're growing a tribe of people.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's so powerful.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: And you've inspired me.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to go and I'm going to join the Omnivore Club.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to get in there and see what's going on.
38:55
SPEAKER_00: Dude, we have other content creators there.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: We don't know what's happening here and we'll figure it out.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
39:02
SPEAKER_00: And we get that internet money somehow,
39:04
SPEAKER_00: but you know, we got to do it combined because we're going to create a lot of value.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: We're bringing people,
39:09
SPEAKER_00: yeah, you know, like, yeah,
39:11
SPEAKER_02: we do want some, we do want the internet money, right?
39:14
SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
39:16
SPEAKER_02: I tell my wife,
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I tell my wife this, like, babe,
39:22
SPEAKER_02: I kind of feel like I am getting too focused on that,
39:29
SPEAKER_02: the views, the retention, how well did a video do, right?
39:34
SPEAKER_02: And all the data that's coming back when I run an analysis,
39:38
SPEAKER_02: it's great content, but look, look at what we live in and what's popular.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: On social media,
39:43
SPEAKER_02: it's the skits,
39:45
SPEAKER_02: it's the funny content,
39:46
SPEAKER_02: it's the news, it's the The debating content, the political debating content.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: If I decided to switch gears right now and start doing political
39:57
SPEAKER_02: and media type stuff, I would blow the fuck up.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: I would sit here and debate the fraud that was happening in Minnesota and all that shit.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: That was a whole thing.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: I even did a post on it, and it did great.
40:09
SPEAKER_02: But That's not in me.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't want that.
40:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to push more division and push more separation.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: How can we talk about some things that'll bring more people together?
40:19
SPEAKER_02: And I think you're doing it.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: And I've read your Lincoln bio, everything on the Omnibor Club.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: I think it's great and I'm inspired.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: And I told my wife, I said, look, I'm going to do this.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to feel these guys out and see what they're talking about.
40:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to join.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: I want to see.
40:35
SPEAKER_02: For two things.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: One, I'm genuinely interested in how it's running.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: And two...
40:40
SPEAKER_02: I might want to copy some of your shit, right?
40:42
SPEAKER_02: So that I can just, so I can, I can see what's working and
40:46
SPEAKER_00: I want to do something.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Do your own version of, of, uh, whatever, whatever you call it, omnibore or whatever.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: It's your own, you know what I'm saying?
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Because you've got a different flavor than I have, you know what I'm saying?
40:56
SPEAKER_00: And so like, But we're all like united from this, what you read on the website, right?
41:02
SPEAKER_00: Just we're not here to fucking debate.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: Like we can have hard conversations, but we're not here to like to win shit and stuff.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: So it's performance.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm sorry, presence over performance, man, you know, and then just a few rules.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Just come in good faith, right?
41:18
SPEAKER_00: And don't diminish other people.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Right?
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Just come in in good faith.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: Like if I'm telling you some hard shit that you don't agree,
41:26
SPEAKER_00: just assume that I truly believe it.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: And I have my reasons for believing that.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: So let's talk it out.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, that kind of vibe.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: What do you have to say, Cisco?
41:36
SPEAKER_00: You know what we've created since the beginning.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: To what exactly do
41:42
SPEAKER_00: you want me to point out?
41:44
SPEAKER_00: No, I was calling on you to see if you're paying attention, bro.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: I was in the flow and then you hit me with it.
41:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: But Travis, like, yeah, you should come check it out.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: We're doing cool things with like the meetings
41:58
SPEAKER_00: and I'm organizing themed omnivore exclusive lives.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: And I really think, Travis, like,
42:03
SPEAKER_00: it's awesome that you're doing this live because even in the omnivore,
42:06
SPEAKER_00: and we can talk a lot more detail offline, right?
42:08
SPEAKER_00: But like,
42:10
SPEAKER_00: it's awesome what's happening on the omnivore club,
42:12
SPEAKER_00: but like where people actually like post and say things like,
42:15
SPEAKER_00: oh my gosh, I thought this was my home.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: But after yesterday's live, This is definitely my home, right?
42:23
SPEAKER_00: So it's got to be this energy that we're all feeling here.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: We feel this energy, right?
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Like right now, this is that energy.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: You just keep feeling that and you kind of make it contagious.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: Because this is kind of the thing.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: I've been doing almost 100 vibe sessions now.
42:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, shit.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: And on X, it was audio only and it would be four hours, bro.
42:46
SPEAKER_00: People like us would show up, right?
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Hundreds.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: And it would last four hours, bro.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: And I would be tired.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: And then these guys would keep going.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Cisco and his...
42:55
SPEAKER_01: He would fall asleep sometimes and we would keep talking.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: He would just leave his phone on.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
43:04
SPEAKER_00: And from there, and before that, Travis, I'm telling you my story now.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: I speak four languages, right?
43:11
SPEAKER_00: And so before that, I was on something called HelloTalk, which is a language community app.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: And they had voice rooms, so I was leading those as well, right?
43:20
SPEAKER_00: So from all those rooms, I realized, holy shit.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: Shit, it's presence, right?
43:28
SPEAKER_00: Just getting together,
43:29
SPEAKER_00: presence over performance, just exploring, having fun, creating that energy.
43:35
SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful, right?
43:36
SPEAKER_00: It's so familiar.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: And so that's kind of the idea, to grow all of us in an organized way.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: And my vision is...
43:46
SPEAKER_00: We keep doing this.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: The lives will keep getting us closer and closer.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: At some point,
43:50
SPEAKER_00: if we get big enough,
43:51
SPEAKER_00: we hold retreats or some kind of events or physical get togethers.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: And then as this continues to grow, the community has its own micro economies.
44:01
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Artists are selling things and we have some kind of economy that develops as we grow.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: And and then,
44:10
SPEAKER_00: you know,
44:11
SPEAKER_00: If this continues to grow,
44:12
SPEAKER_00: we drive culture, which I think a lot of things are downstream of culture, right?
44:17
SPEAKER_00: So if we can get the culture and get people on board to think in our way,
44:21
SPEAKER_00: be present,
44:22
SPEAKER_00: presence over performance,
44:23
SPEAKER_00: just these big ideas,
44:26
SPEAKER_00: man, I think we can get organized and change the bullshit that's happening.
44:30
SPEAKER_00: I really believe that, Travis.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: I just feel that energy and this growing awareness.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: And you can say what you want about the algorithms, but if you're...
44:40
SPEAKER_00: You can make the algorithms work for you.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
44:44
SPEAKER_00: So, and that's what I discovered because before this whole Vibe Samurai shit,
44:47
SPEAKER_00: I kind of knew and because I was part of the Bitcoin community with Cisco
44:51
SPEAKER_00: and that's why we were doing on X.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: But dude, like Just think about it.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: Like super smart, busy people who have kids spending four hours with us, bro.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: People are putting their kids to sleep.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Like Sully, right, Cisco?
45:04
SPEAKER_00: He's like, oh, I can't talk, but I'm putting my kids to sleep.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: All generations.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: Gen Z, millennial, Gen X, sometimes boomers.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Very nice.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: All bullshit aside, all internet money bullshit.
45:20
SPEAKER_02: There are people, including me, because this is who I am.
45:26
SPEAKER_02: I now can, I feel comfortable getting on live.
45:29
SPEAKER_02: I feel comfortable posting videos, but not everybody does.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: There are a lot of people that have a lot to say and I feel are in exactly
45:38
SPEAKER_02: the same situation that I was feeling like I didn't have anybody to really talk to.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: I have friends and we talk about our past and we talk about things that we've done
45:48
SPEAKER_02: and not really no forward kind of envisioning or talking about the hard work we got
45:52
SPEAKER_02: to go and do to be a better person.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: But there are people out there that That needs something like what you're creating.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: They want to feel the sense of community because there's such a lack of it.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: I live in a community here in Orlando now and there's about 300 houses in this subdivision.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: I walk the neighborhood every day just because I enjoy walking.
46:15
SPEAKER_02: It's the best way for me to clear my head and get a reset before I have to sit down
46:18
SPEAKER_02: and do like another hour and a half session of work or whatever.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: So I go hit the neighborhood and there's no one outside.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: There's no one's outside.
46:26
SPEAKER_02: There are no kids playing in the afternoon.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's inside on their phones.
46:30
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's inside of watching TV.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: And so I say all that because we are missing there.
46:37
SPEAKER_02: Everyone is craving community and craving interaction with people and
46:43
SPEAKER_02: to have these kind of intellectual conversations.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: And some people just don't feel like they're good enough to have them or to even get on here.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: And do a live or make a post about some kind of crazy, curious.
46:56
SPEAKER_02: The imagination that we have is a gift.
46:58
SPEAKER_02: We are downloading information.
47:00
SPEAKER_02: All these things that come to us.
47:02
SPEAKER_02: And you said that the group will evolve.
47:05
SPEAKER_02: And it will.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: And it will evolve in ways that you have no idea that it's going.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: And that's what makes it so special.
47:11
SPEAKER_02: But there's a lack of connection, I think, just from what I see.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: Man, it's empty everywhere.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's all locked inside.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: And look at us.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: We're on the thing I'm talking about, right?
47:24
SPEAKER_02: We're on the phone.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: I got my laptop open right here.
47:27
SPEAKER_02: I spend more time in front of a fucking screen than I do anywhere,
47:31
SPEAKER_02: anytime else,
47:32
SPEAKER_02: whether it's working, doing content, or just fucking scrolling or something.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: So I think, and Gary Vee talked big about the community.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: Alex Formozzi talks big about the community.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: And That's why he invested into school, because he believes that this is where
47:46
SPEAKER_00: it's known.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: That was a good move, bro, right?
47:49
SPEAKER_02: Big, big, big move.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: And it's, I mean, it's producing.
47:53
SPEAKER_00: And the other thing Alex Termozzi said that was really interesting
47:56
SPEAKER_00: for us content creators and people in general,
47:58
SPEAKER_00: he was saying, it was very interesting and blew up.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: He said that we're leaving the error of attention and we're moving towards the error of trust.
48:09
SPEAKER_00: Attention is important, but you get it, right?
48:14
SPEAKER_00: Especially with AI, it's going to be competing for it.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: That's why you got to build that trust and that's what people are going to be looking towards.
48:21
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like now that I'm at this size, bro, it's just weird because I'm just a regular dude.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
48:28
SPEAKER_00: You don't feel any different.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: I don't feel any... Well,
48:31
SPEAKER_00: now I'm feeling...
48:32
SPEAKER_00: And now the identity is kind of like catching up to like,
48:35
SPEAKER_00: okay, I have to be that guy, right?
48:38
SPEAKER_00: Like, I am that guy.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: I just had to discover that I'm that guy.
48:42
SPEAKER_00: And I just have to accept it and move forward being that guy.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: And slowly it's getting more and more familiar and comfortable.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: But like... And that's the thing.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: I feel like people...
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Need a guide.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: And that's how I view myself more than like some guru or something.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm a guide.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: We're walking this together.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm a little ahead about certain things because I'm wise and I'm older
49:05
SPEAKER_00: and I've done a lot of inner work, right?
49:07
SPEAKER_00: So now I'm kind of embracing that thing and people need that
49:11
SPEAKER_00: and they need somebody Like us,
49:14
SPEAKER_00: where we can get communities together and connect like this on lives.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
49:20
SPEAKER_02: Even getting to the point that you're at now is some people never get there.
49:25
SPEAKER_02: Some people go their entire life and they never feel safe enough in their own skin
49:30
SPEAKER_02: to open up about, you know, taboo or mystical or woo-woo subject.
49:34
SPEAKER_02: But man, I think this entire experience is fucking woo-woo and mystical.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: If you really think about it, if you just think about it, you know, like it's crazy.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of where the whole you're not seeing everything
49:47
SPEAKER_02: and neither is anyone else comes from is because I am so tired of people
49:52
SPEAKER_02: who have everything figured out.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, it's that way because of...
49:58
SPEAKER_02: Science says that that's what it is.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: All science is is a big fucking hypothesis.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: It's all theories.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: You're filled with all these isms, feminism, socialism, whatever.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: That's all just ideas.
50:11
SPEAKER_02: All big, large ideas compressed into one fucking word.
50:17
SPEAKER_02: I just don't like when someone has everything figured out because...
50:22
SPEAKER_02: It's like you're doing yourself a disservice because
50:26
SPEAKER_02: if everything's already figured out and you know how everything's going to go,
50:28
SPEAKER_02: you got your old future figured out,
50:30
SPEAKER_02: you know why the sun rises and the moon comes out and you know why the moon and
50:35
SPEAKER_02: the water and the tide and you just got it all figured out.
50:38
SPEAKER_02: What else is there?
50:39
SPEAKER_02: What's left?
50:42
SPEAKER_02: How is that an enjoyable life?
50:43
SPEAKER_02: How is that something that is even worth going through?
50:47
SPEAKER_02: And I think that that's where all the depression and anxiety comes from
50:51
SPEAKER_02: because everyone's so certain.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: My religion is the best religion, right?
50:54
SPEAKER_02: My skin color is the best skin color.
50:56
SPEAKER_02: And it's crazy that people live and die by this outlook and this perception.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: And it's insane to me that someone can't look.
51:05
SPEAKER_02: You can't look at the media and the news and see the bullshit.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: All politics is theater.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Everything is a skit.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: This is not real.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: We are not privy to these conversations of all these things, and we never will be.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: And that's just the reality that we have to live in.
51:22
SPEAKER_02: So don't let that.
51:24
SPEAKER_02: You know, control your whole life.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: It fucked with me for a long time because I want to be proud of my country.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: I want to be proud of the politics and the people.
51:35
SPEAKER_02: And I want to root for something.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: But I see through the guys.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: I see through the fucking theater and everything that's going on.
51:42
SPEAKER_02: And there's nothing I can do about it other than start a community.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: Find like-minded people.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Start growing something and building something.
51:51
SPEAKER_02: And that's just what we got to do, right?
51:54
SPEAKER_02: Dude, we're so alive.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: Build a day will come, as Cisco would say.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: Hey, but turning to Cisco, because we always make him the guinea pig on that show.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: Today, we're going to keep it toned down, though, because you know what it is, Travis?
52:08
SPEAKER_00: The running joke is we have therapists.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: We had coaches and Cisco, young Cisco has a lot of problems.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: So we throw them to try to solve his problem.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: But no, this one is not an embarrassing one.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: So Cisco, let's talk about this, right?
52:23
SPEAKER_00: About the chatter,
52:25
SPEAKER_00: because one of the books that Travis recommends in his thing is called Chatter.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: And his whole thing is about like the language you use.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: And so tell him what you're going through.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, and what you've been doing and then let's ask him what he thinks about it, right?
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Because he, because Travis went through this, right?
52:42
SPEAKER_00: And he figured it out to move forward and you're having trouble moving forward.
52:47
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like maybe he could give you something to ask away.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, bit of a loaded question,
52:52
SPEAKER_01: but I feel like just for a while,
52:55
SPEAKER_01: just on a hamster wheel of negative thinking and constant just projection of misery.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: And it's just been the way I've been talking.
53:05
SPEAKER_01: To myself.
53:07
SPEAKER_01: And a practice I then started was because I'm so overstimulated.
53:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you know what, I need to start practicing boredom.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: So let me start going on very long walks.
53:18
SPEAKER_01: So I go 45 minutes one way, 45 minutes back.
53:21
SPEAKER_01: And I'm just trying to,
53:24
SPEAKER_01: you know, not have anything enter anymore and just allow the brain to process.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: And then even very recently,
53:32
SPEAKER_01: I got a Moleskine journal, and I've been just, I'm like, let the ugly out.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: Like, I just.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: I keep mine on deck.
53:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm like, I'm not even trying to make this perfect anymore.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm just like, I have so much to complain about.
53:46
SPEAKER_01: Let me get it on paper.
53:47
SPEAKER_01: And I'm looking, I'm like, Jesus Christ.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: It's ridiculous.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: Now that it's tangible, I'm like, whoa.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: But I kind of need to
53:57
SPEAKER_00: like let it just fucking fly out.
54:00
SPEAKER_00: Bro, that's new news to me.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know you were, I know you started writing.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: That's, you're surprised by the volume of fucking bullshit that you're talking.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Damn, bro.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: I haven't externalized it.
54:13
SPEAKER_01: So it's just,
54:15
SPEAKER_01: you know, I,
54:16
SPEAKER_01: cause I told that other young kid,
54:17
SPEAKER_01: like your mind's like a garden and my shit is growing with weeds
54:21
SPEAKER_01: and these weeds are fucking growing.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know,
54:25
SPEAKER_01: maybe writing is like taking the machete to it and then like putting it in a bag,
54:28
SPEAKER_01: you know?
54:30
SPEAKER_01: For that analogy like so and I've been reading psycho cybernetics,
54:35
SPEAKER_01: which is your self image runs your entire life because that's your nervous system.
54:40
SPEAKER_01: And it's basically who you think you are truly deep in your bones
54:44
SPEAKER_01: and your nervous system is going to be the actions you take on a daily basis.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: And it's like there's all this mental fortitude and you can try your best
54:52
SPEAKER_01: but like what you feel in your bones about your identity.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: That's what you need to change.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: And then that's the work through like visualization.
54:59
SPEAKER_01: Subconscious can't tell between real and imagine.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: So you can create these experiences and practice in the theater of the mind so
55:09
SPEAKER_01: that your subconscious has practice because it doesn't understand language.
55:13
SPEAKER_01: It understands feeling.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: So I've been living in language and I haven't had any like nervous system training basically.
55:21
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like realizing all this.
55:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, fuck.
55:24
SPEAKER_01: So right now I'm just walking.
55:26
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm trying to just write when,
55:28
SPEAKER_01: you know, I have the urge and just need to get ugly on paper.
55:32
SPEAKER_01: And it's slow.
55:34
SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean,
55:35
SPEAKER_01: my life hasn't radically changed, but,
55:37
SPEAKER_01: you know,
55:37
SPEAKER_01: I think it's a gradual just through self-reflection because a lot of what I'm like,
55:44
SPEAKER_01: you know, Bruno's like, dude, you've learned too much, Ari.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: You've learned enough.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't feel it, you know, but...
55:51
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of going in one ear and out the other maybe,
55:53
SPEAKER_01: but now if I have to recall that information and then put it down,
55:58
SPEAKER_01: so that's like the new So I'm going to get ugly on paper and then soon I'm going
56:02
SPEAKER_01: to be like, all right, man, let's look at this different.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: What if I completely...
56:05
SPEAKER_01: But Travis, I feel like he's
56:07
SPEAKER_00: speaking too much.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: When I say that, I feel like he has a lot of things.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: He has a lot of things he learned from all these vibe sessions and everybody.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: And I just feel like he's lacking the action, like taking those small aligned action.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: Like he started posting on Instagram, but then he stopped.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: Because of all the things that come with posting.
56:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:29
SPEAKER_00: The validation.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, no, I'm not getting the thing.
56:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:32
SPEAKER_00: So anyway, we've been in all of this throughout the end, which is beautiful.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: Like I love Cisco and we're like going through these family fucking things,
56:43
SPEAKER_00: growing pains and all.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful, man.
56:45
SPEAKER_00: And so what do you have to say about what like what Cisco said and this whole situation?
56:50
SPEAKER_02: I think you're you're on to it and you.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: You will never stop becoming.
56:56
SPEAKER_02: We will never stop becoming.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: All these things that you just mentioned, the thinking about your thinking,
57:09
SPEAKER_02: you've got it.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: You've got the literature.
57:11
SPEAKER_02: You've got the concepts.
57:13
SPEAKER_02: You've got all the ideas.
57:15
SPEAKER_02: You need to take it and find out what's working and how to do it for yourself.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: So taking all that information and find out how you do it for yourself.
57:25
SPEAKER_02: And then one of the biggest things for me was I can never see how well I've done.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't ever spend time going back.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: And I do it now.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: I am very intentional about going through everything that I've been through and all
57:39
SPEAKER_02: the things that I've accomplished up until this point.
57:42
SPEAKER_02: No matter how small that those things are,
57:45
SPEAKER_02: because I am building my own,
57:47
SPEAKER_02: and Hormozy talks about it,
57:48
SPEAKER_02: building your own stack of evidence that you can give yourself and you can carry it
57:53
SPEAKER_02: with you everywhere, chest out, right?
57:56
SPEAKER_02: This is who I am.
57:57
SPEAKER_02: And it's for you.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: It's not for anybody else.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: So I have never been able to stop these thoughts that come into my mind.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: They're very nihilistic.
58:10
SPEAKER_02: I've always been alone.
58:12
SPEAKER_02: So I was always running through scenarios in my mind so that I can be prepared
58:17
SPEAKER_02: if anything happened because it was only ever me in all these situations
58:21
SPEAKER_02: that I've ever been into.
58:22
SPEAKER_02: And so it's just a doom cycle.
58:24
SPEAKER_02: And I know a lot of people do this,
58:26
SPEAKER_02: but so whenever I feel it's happening or I catch myself thinking those things,
58:32
SPEAKER_02: I will I'll either go walk or I'll say clear in my mind, right?
58:37
SPEAKER_02: C-L-E-R.
58:38
SPEAKER_02: I try and clear the thought and remove it.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: Or I'll say something like, these thoughts no longer align.
58:43
SPEAKER_02: And this is to myself in my mind.
58:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking like, these thoughts no longer align with who I am and where I'm going.
58:50
SPEAKER_02: And so I'll correct myself.
58:54
SPEAKER_02: Whenever I do walk, I go through a grateful cycle.
58:57
SPEAKER_02: And it sounds so woo-woo and it sounds so silly.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: And I know every self-help person has always said, just be grateful.
59:04
SPEAKER_02: But it fucking changes everything.
59:06
SPEAKER_02: So when I walk, I'm grateful for my wife.
59:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful for the breath today.
59:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful for my vision.
59:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful that I have the opportunity to provide for my family.
59:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's going to make me fucking choke up and cry.
59:16
SPEAKER_02: But I'm grateful that I can provide for my family.
59:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm grateful for That I was able to survive everything that I've been through so
59:23
SPEAKER_02: that I can be here today and be here for my son because he's never going to go
59:28
SPEAKER_02: without a dad, right?
59:30
SPEAKER_02: And those are deep things for me and it'll fucking make me cry.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: I think just taking all the literature,
59:36
SPEAKER_02: because I did it for three or four years,
59:39
SPEAKER_02: I was listening to every lecture, every philosophy that I can find on self-help.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: I read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle, which I think is a huge one.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: If you haven't read that, definitely, that's a must read.
59:51
SPEAKER_02: Even now, I got this.
59:52
SPEAKER_02: It's called The Game of Life and How to Play by Florence Scovel Shin.
59:57
SPEAKER_02: This is a very small little hand pocket.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: It's only like 100 and something.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_02: But I love these types of books because it just helps you kind
1:00:06
SPEAKER_02: of keep building your own internal architecture
1:00:10
SPEAKER_02: and how you feel comfortable fighting your own demons and fighting your own battles
1:00:14
SPEAKER_02: because, hey, we are the hero of our story.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: We are all we got.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_02: So I think that that's it.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_02: You've got it.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm listening to you and you're articulate.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_02: You understand what Travis said.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: That was mind-blowing.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: He said,
1:00:34
SPEAKER_00: The demons don't stop, bro.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: Never.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: It's never gonna stop.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_02: It's only gonna get worse with more duty that you bring on, more responsibility that you have.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_02: Those things are just going to keep coming and they're going to come harder
1:00:44
SPEAKER_02: and heavier and you building up your internal power.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_02: So I do the Mind Palace.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_02: Have you guys ever read the series Red Rising?
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_02: It's a fantasy series.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: It's the most amazing fantasy series you'll ever read.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_02: And it has nothing to do with self-help.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_02: It's just a fantasy story.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_02: And the guy and the protagonist in the story, his name is Darrow.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_02: And so when I go into my Mind Palace...
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Darrow is in like this suit.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: He's in space and he can kind of like,
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: you know, he can take hits and he has like this whip that turns into a blade.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_02: And so when I go in my mind palace,
1:01:23
SPEAKER_02: I am the Darrow, but I am me and I am in the most, the best shape possible.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_02: My mind palace,
1:01:29
SPEAKER_02: it's so I fly out and you picture one floor and it has these huge warehouse doors,
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: right?
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: And picture a building square.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_02: So four walls.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: Walls and they have doors.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_02: Now imagine that times infinity floors.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: Each door is either an experience in my life or it's something that I'm reaching for.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: And so I can go in my mind house and I can fly around and open each door
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: and I can see, you know, where I've come from.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: But there are doors that I haven't yet been able to open yet.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_02: And these are some of the goals and the things that I want to do in my life.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: And so like,
1:02:05
SPEAKER_02: This is why life is so amazing because you can do and think whatever
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: the fuck you want to think.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_02: You have to just find your own version of what makes you be able
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: to get past these power systems, right?
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: Get past all this self-doubt, get past all the opinions of others, right?
1:02:23
SPEAKER_02: And even the social media, that shit will fucking weigh on you, right?
1:02:26
SPEAKER_02: You post something and you think it's so powerful and so strong and like,
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: you know,
1:02:31
SPEAKER_02: a hundred people see it versus your, you know, you have one million view hit.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_02: And you're like, wow, I guess it really wasn't that good.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I'm not as good as I thought it was.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_02: Maybe all that is trash.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_02: None of that needs to belong there because it's just not true.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_02: And that's how I feel.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_02: That's what you're going to get out of me for now.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, man.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_02: What do you think Cisco?
1:02:53
SPEAKER_01: What do you think Cisco with what he said?
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: I guess the thought that came to me was then how do you work through
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: where everything is inherited?
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: In my mind,
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: it was never created by me and it's not something I want to grab
1:03:10
SPEAKER_01: and I don't know how else to word it but like that's kind of
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: the challenge I'm dealing with because it's like that new ego,
1:03:19
SPEAKER_01: that new desired identity to work towards,
1:03:23
SPEAKER_01: kill this older self,
1:03:25
SPEAKER_01: the liminal space and then you're
1:03:26
SPEAKER_01: at this new like Just discovering what you truly want authentically,
1:03:32
SPEAKER_01: like I'm still struggling because then you don't,
1:03:36
SPEAKER_01: if you don't have that, you're so aimless.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I don't even know either.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what I want.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: I have an idea of what I think as far as a brand and trying to build and my career
1:03:50
SPEAKER_02: and maybe where I can go with that.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_02: But man, you're never going to know.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: You're not going to fully know.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_02: It'll just keep evolving and happening.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:03:59
SPEAKER_02: So you just got to...
1:04:00
SPEAKER_01: But is there like a vague image at least?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you have a vision, right?
1:04:08
SPEAKER_02: You have an idea of what... You said 25 years old.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_02: If you think 30-year-old Cisco, where is he at?
1:04:17
SPEAKER_01: 30-year-old.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, with the typical jacked rich,
1:04:21
SPEAKER_01: you know, but I don't really have something that has gravity pulling me towards it.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: I don't really have...
1:04:29
SPEAKER_01: I could say the typical financial location freedom, you know, but- Does that sound
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: good though?
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: Is that what, is that something you would want?
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: You'd want to be jacked and you want to have a lot of money?
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, honestly, like that's right.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_02: I know everybody does, but so do you work out?
1:04:47
SPEAKER_01: Calisthenics.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_01: I've been recovering from a shoulder injury.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_01: So I've been doing chin-ups, hanging new braces on my, I got a power tower in the corner.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_02: Do you work?
1:04:59
SPEAKER_01: I've always been very lax when it came to gym.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm a skinny legend.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_02: I see something in there.
1:05:10
SPEAKER_02: Do you have a day job?
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: How do you bring it in?
1:05:15
SPEAKER_01: I work in a family business, service-based business.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: Plumbing, electrician, AC, heating.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_01: It's related to steel structures, fire escapes.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: Ah, systems.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: You do the fire systems?
1:05:30
SPEAKER_02: We don't have to get into it.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_01: Like New York.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_01: Like in New York City, you've seen fire escape.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_01: They do something with that.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_01: You inspect those.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: You repair them.
1:05:41
SPEAKER_02: I say all that because we just went through just quick exercise.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_02: Where are you going to be when you're 30?
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: And you're like jacked with a lot of money, but...
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: If that's what you really want, then, I mean, are you...
1:05:53
SPEAKER_01: Actions are not aligned with where...
1:05:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_02: You know where I'm going with this, right?
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: Are you fucking working out?
1:05:58
SPEAKER_02: Do you have a plan?
1:05:59
SPEAKER_02: Do you want to stay in the family business, stay over to the family business?
1:06:02
SPEAKER_02: And that all goes along with...
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: It goes along with the vision,
1:06:07
SPEAKER_02: but everything that is important happens in the now,
1:06:11
SPEAKER_02: in the very simple little things.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_02: The fact that you decided...
1:06:15
SPEAKER_02: To pick up a journal or a note and start writing some of this stuff out,
1:06:20
SPEAKER_02: it may seem so insignificant, but it's not.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: Every little thing that you decide that you're going to do when it's quiet
1:06:27
SPEAKER_02: and no one's around and you say, hey, I'm going to do this one fucking thing.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to get anything for it.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: No one's even going to know I did it, but you're going to know you did it.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: And it will start to compound.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_02: And I've only gotten to where I've gotten to because of the small compounding effect.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_02: It's been, I mean, I've made over a million and a half.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_02: I made over a million and a half just With the day job,
1:06:51
SPEAKER_02: with my career, with jobs that I've had.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_02: I started making $12 an hour working in the fucking yard,
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: in the oil field,
1:06:57
SPEAKER_02: doing some of the worst, shittiest job ever, cleaning tanks of drilling mud.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, yeah, that's just my story.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_02: But, you know, I think you have a lot of, you know, everybody's story is different.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_02: It sounds like you actually have a pretty good hand if you got a family business,
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: something that you can do.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: It might not seem like it, but I think that that's pretty neat that that's even an option.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_02: My brother, I'm listening to you.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_02: You got it.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_02: It's just the little things.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_00: Damn, you got it, Cisco.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_02: We're coming up, baby.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I think this was the best thing, right?
1:07:30
SPEAKER_00: Like for me,
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: just thinking about the things you're going through,
1:07:33
SPEAKER_00: bro, he's saying the demons are always going to be there, bro.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_00: You're not getting rid of the demons.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_00: I think you were waiting for the demons to go away.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_00: It's recognizing.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_00: It's recognizing him.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_01: How do I get cool with him?
1:07:48
SPEAKER_02: Give me an example.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_02: Give me an example of what a demon, what does a Cisco demon tell you?
1:07:53
SPEAKER_02: Does he say you're ugly, you got a small bird?
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: Small bird, for sure he said that.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm curious what the language that you're using.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's just do this as an exercise.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_00: I think everybody will find it helpful.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I need a more directed question, but I'm trying to think.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_01: I guess I don't believe in my abilities.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_01: I get very frustrated with myself to constantly think the way I do.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you think about regretful things like dumb things.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is kind of vague stuff.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_00: But Cisco, do you talk bad about yourself?
1:08:50
SPEAKER_00: Do you call yourself a piece
1:08:51
SPEAKER_01: of shit?
1:08:52
SPEAKER_01: You say you're a piece of shit or no?
1:08:56
SPEAKER_01: I guess it would maybe tend towards like loser.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_02: You would say I'm a loser.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm a fucking loser.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_02: And you see what's so crazy is I'm looking at you and I don't know squat
1:09:06
SPEAKER_02: about you other than however long we've been on this.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_02: And dude, I don't even... Those thoughts...
1:09:12
SPEAKER_02: Don't even come close to what I would think about you.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_02: I look at you, I see a genuinely good-looking dude.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_02: I've heard that you have a family business.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_02: That's some security, what a lot of people don't have, right?
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: You're on here.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_02: You're on a fucking live.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_02: You're very vulnerable right now,
1:09:28
SPEAKER_02: so you have access to humility, which a lot of people don't have access to.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's so for sure,
1:09:34
SPEAKER_02: and they know everything,
1:09:35
SPEAKER_02: and I can't look embarrassed,
1:09:38
SPEAKER_02: but being embarrassed and being humiliated is the key to fucking everything.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_02: You have to put yourself out there and be able to do that.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: So I'm looking at you and I'm listening to some of this shit.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just thinking, yeah, maybe it is inherited.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it is environment.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it is family.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: A lot of what my shit came from my family.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: But my brother,
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that you, I think you, yeah, I think you don't give yourself enough credit.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: And it's hard to even do that.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: It's hard.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: I really related to what you said earlier,
1:10:07
SPEAKER_01: where you don't really have much influence around you.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_01: To introduce better thinking too.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_01: So like, it's just reinforced by what you've been around.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_01: And someone like Bruno has been a great positive thinking force,
1:10:20
SPEAKER_01: like a new mental model that I didn't even think existed, you know.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_01: And then like my friend Brandon that we met through the Bitcoin community,
1:10:27
SPEAKER_01: now he works with my family.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: He's helping me
1:10:31
SPEAKER_01: every day.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, from our community, from that Vibe sesh, these guys met up and they're working together.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's crazy we hired him.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_01: I'll just be complaining and then he reframs it.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: He's like, dude, no.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_01: Some of the proof of work I am building,
1:10:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't even validate my own stuff I am doing either too.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_01: He's like, dude, you have all these wins.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_01: Why don't you see that?
1:10:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't know.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_01: What do you think is going on
1:11:03
SPEAKER_00: with that?
1:11:03
SPEAKER_00: A lot of what I did.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: It's all the cliché things that you hear.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_02: And it's because you keep hearing them because they work.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: It's simple.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_02: You have to be your biggest supporter.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: You have to because this is all that we have.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: This is it, man.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_02: Right?
1:11:22
SPEAKER_02: Like...
1:11:22
SPEAKER_01: Problem has always been just getting that external validation and it never sourced from within.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_01: So that's where, you know, Bruno's teaching me about people pleasing, just period.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_01: And you're a chameleon to just...
1:11:36
SPEAKER_01: Get people to like you back rather than projecting out an authentic self
1:11:40
SPEAKER_01: and being like, I don't care if you like me or not.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_01: To have that validation, I don't have that
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: right now.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: My answer was mixed martial arts.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: When I got to the point to where I know I could whoop people's asses,
1:11:52
SPEAKER_02: then it's like, dude, I'm not really concerned.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: Not that I go out and do that.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_02: I haven't gotten to a fistfight in over 10 years other than training stuff.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I built my confidence through a lot of just the training.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of, you know, adrenaline junkie.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_02: Jumped out of planes a few times, done a lot of things like that.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_02: But this is what I'm saying, Cisco.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_00: At some point, whenever you're ready, you just got to take the action.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_00: And, like, you know, like, right?
1:12:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's action.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_01: Like, even the everything that you do.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking at the chat here.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_02: Cisco, you have people in the chat that are cheering you on.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, they vibe with you, bro.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: And then someone said that you guys are toasted.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_02: Was there some herbal essence happening before y'all got on this live?
1:12:41
SPEAKER_00: Hashtag slightly high.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_00: Dude, we got the whole slightly high.
1:12:47
SPEAKER_00: Dude, look at this.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_00: Cubo said to you, Cisco, you can bend reality once you believe in yourself.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_00: We got to pin this one.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_00: Holy shit, bro.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_02: I see I got a buddy, Jacob in here.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_02: What's up, Jacob?
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: Jacob, come
1:13:02
SPEAKER_00: on up.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_00: Jacob, come on up.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_00: Who's Jacob, bro?
1:13:04
SPEAKER_00: Your friend's famous, Jacob.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_00: Jacob Morton.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_00: Your friend's famous.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_00: Dude, he's on Vibe Sesh.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_00: Of course he's famous.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, we're going to launch everyone's... Is he the guy that
1:13:12
SPEAKER_01: asked, are you famous then?
1:13:18
SPEAKER_00: Hey, Travis, how are you feeling, bro?
1:13:20
SPEAKER_00: How are you feeling about this first real live, you know, live with people like us?
1:13:25
SPEAKER_00: How are you feeling?
1:13:26
SPEAKER_00: What are you thinking?
1:13:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling good.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_02: So, like, before I got on here, man, you know, I told myself, I'm just going to get there.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to talk.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm just going to just whatever comes to mind,
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: whatever the conversation goes, I'm just going to chat.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_02: Let it be.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: The real person not behind this screen, I want to know.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_02: What's going on with you guys?
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: I want to know some things about you.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_02: I want to know your background, like honestly.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I seen Queens and then you said Massachusetts.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: I don't know shit about that.
1:13:55
SPEAKER_02: I just want to know, how was your mom and dad?
1:13:58
SPEAKER_02: Were they around?
1:13:59
SPEAKER_02: What kind of jobs did you work?
1:14:02
SPEAKER_02: What kind of man are you?
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever been in a relationship?
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: Are you smacking women around?
1:14:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
1:14:11
SPEAKER_02: What kind of vices do you have?
1:14:12
SPEAKER_02: Have you spent years drinking a lot, smoking a lot?
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Because these are all things that I've seen on my end.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_02: I've been through a lot of things.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_02: A lot of bullshit to get to the point to where I feel a lot of clarity in my life.
1:14:30
SPEAKER_02: I do have a vision.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_02: Even though it's a vague vision,
1:14:33
SPEAKER_02: it's a very strong vision of where I want to be and where I want to go.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's kind of where my mind's at.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_02: And I think that we should definitely connect after we do this.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: Of course, bro.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: Join the community.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_00: I'll join.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_00: I'll be in there.
1:14:49
SPEAKER_02: I want to learn more about you guys and see a little bit.
1:14:52
SPEAKER_02: Behind the camera, I guess, if you'd say that.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: Who's the real people that I'm talking to, right?
1:14:58
SPEAKER_02: Because there's some level of performance when you're here in front of a live
1:15:01
SPEAKER_02: and you're doing this.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_02: You feel that?
1:15:04
SPEAKER_00: No, actually, I don't know, Cisco.
1:15:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I agree with this.
1:15:07
SPEAKER_00: Because it's interesting.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_00: This is interesting.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_00: He's the first guy who said, hey, I want to know more about you behind the screen.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_00: What's interesting, Travis,
1:15:17
SPEAKER_00: in all these live sessions,
1:15:19
SPEAKER_00: what was the most interesting is that we didn't want to know.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I wouldn't say we didn't want to know because we eventually would know
1:15:25
SPEAKER_00: because we would talk.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_00: It just wouldn't be in a group setting, right?
1:15:29
SPEAKER_00: Because when you were in a group, the conversation was alive.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it would go into, and you're our special guest, so we want to know your story, right?
1:15:37
SPEAKER_00: But in general, if there was no special guest, the conversations would just go wherever.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_00: And we've got this intense presence without knowing how many kids you have or this
1:15:47
SPEAKER_00: or that or what's going on in your real life because we are focused.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_00: Exactly what you said, Travis.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_00: Not even the brand.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_00: It's the existential questions.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_00: All these other things became too mundane.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_00: Great.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_00: You have a family and this and that.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_00: But let's talk about why are we here?
1:16:06
SPEAKER_00: And everything that you said, right?
1:16:08
SPEAKER_00: Like that you want people to get out of the mundane conversation into that.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_00: And that's what was happening.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_00: And so like what happens in terms of getting to know people behind the screen is like him.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_00: He met up with Brandon and now they work together.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_00: And you know what I'm saying?
1:16:22
SPEAKER_00: So it's like more kind of slow and organic versus...
1:16:26
SPEAKER_00: What happens in these conversations?
1:16:28
SPEAKER_00: What's an interesting difference and distinction, you know?
1:16:30
SPEAKER_01: And just making a safe space for that to happen too.
1:16:33
SPEAKER_01: Like people need the trust that I can talk about these things with you guys, you know?
1:16:38
SPEAKER_01: And so that's where it's like the conversations on the feed or people making posts
1:16:42
SPEAKER_01: and then you get to meet in a live conversation.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_01: And then that's only going to compound and compound because the community we built
1:16:49
SPEAKER_01: on X-Men We have a big family group chat.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_01: There's just memories after memories now.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_01: And then that's just only going to scale with now video.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_01: That was audio only.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_01: But now with video, it's going to get crazy.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_01: Even I'm nervous about that.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, damn.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_01: Because you can like, you know, an audio call, you know, only.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_01: But now I got to sit at the desk, you know.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_02: So I think of, yeah,
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: how I'm feeling about everything,
1:17:17
SPEAKER_02: man, just For everybody listening, it's just you don't have to suffer.
1:17:23
SPEAKER_02: You have more control than you think that you have.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_02: And you're going to have things.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_02: You're going to be doing things that you believe for yourself that are making your life better.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_02: No one's going to see these.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_02: You're not going to get a pat on the back.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_02: You need to be on your own team.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_02: And a lot of that is thinking about your own thinking.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: Some people are in an environment.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_02: That they can't escape.
1:17:47
SPEAKER_02: If I was still stuck down the bayou back home, I would not be the same person.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_02: And I know I take my hat off and I give respect,
1:17:55
SPEAKER_02: mad respect to anyone who is trying to change something in their life
1:18:00
SPEAKER_02: and push themselves further,
1:18:02
SPEAKER_02: learning something new,
1:18:03
SPEAKER_02: doing this type of activity every day because we all have to work.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_02: We all have relationships.
1:18:08
SPEAKER_02: We have relationships.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_02: We all have to live in this system.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_02: That's what I see all this as.
1:18:15
SPEAKER_02: It's just a big system we were born into.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_02: We didn't ask to be here.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_02: We didn't ask to pay bills.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_02: I didn't ask to fucking pay insurance.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_02: These are just things that we have to do.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_02: So anyone out there who's doing all of this and trying to grow as a person
1:18:31
SPEAKER_02: and trying to build something for themselves,
1:18:33
SPEAKER_02: something that they can leave behind to their family,
1:18:35
SPEAKER_02: You have my respect because this is not fucking easy.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_02: I was in and out of not wanting to be on this call today because work was shitty today.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_02: I had a lot of bad things happen today and I worked through them.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_02: I got it done.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_02: The past several days have not been my brightest days.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_02: They have not been my best days and not for any big reason other than I just feel heavy.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_02: I feel heavy with everything that I have to do.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_02: I feel heavy with Having to walk out of this room where I work and go out there
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: and put a smile on.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_02: I can't let the work affect me.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_02: I got to go smile.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_02: I want to be a good man to my wife and a good dad to my kid.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's tough.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_02: So anybody that's doing that, I see you.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_02: I feel you.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_02: You're not alone.
1:19:24
SPEAKER_02: And I think this community that you're building,
1:19:26
SPEAKER_02: I think that this is something that those type of people, this is your group.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: Get in here.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_02: You have a voice.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_02: Use it.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_02: And you're going to be embarrassed.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_02: You're going to feel humiliated.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_02: You're going to feel like what you're talking about doesn't matter.
1:19:42
SPEAKER_02: And no one would connect to it because it's coming from you.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_02: But my brothers and sisters, we are all experiencing and feeling the same shit.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_02: And it's okay.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_02: You're going to feel bad.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, somebody might make fun of something you say.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_02: Who gives a fuck?
1:20:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's just keep going.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_02: Who gives a fuck?
1:20:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_02: One mistaken thing that you've said doesn't change or judge your entire fucking character.
1:20:10
SPEAKER_02: None of that matters.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of the big message.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm feeling.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_02: That's what I wanted to get off my chest.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_02: And dude, I'm just vibing out out here.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_00: Clip city right here.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_00: Travis, how many minutes do we have left?
1:20:27
SPEAKER_00: I know your dad, you got that.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_00: How much time we got?
1:20:32
SPEAKER_02: We're 9.30, yeah.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: I got a few more minutes and then we'll call in there.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_00: Cisco, what do you think?
1:20:37
SPEAKER_00: Either your question or we go with the final question that we usually ask.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_00: Which one you want, Cisco?
1:20:42
SPEAKER_01: It's only six minutes, so I think probably the final eternal loop.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, six minutes.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_01: Five minutes now.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, bro.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_01: All right.
1:20:55
SPEAKER_01: We'd like to ask this at the conclusion of the vibe sessions.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_01: Where we want you to think of an experience or a moment.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_01: You're going to be living a particular moment where you feel extreme happiness
1:21:11
SPEAKER_01: and it's not something you're going to get sick of.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_01: You're going to live this forever on loop.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_01: And we want to know what is that experience for you that you could live on an internal loop.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: That's I'm such a deep guy when it comes to these types of fucking quite so.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_02: Man, it would have to be so there's two things that come to mind, the eternal loop.
1:21:46
SPEAKER_02: It's something so simple and it's it's something that won't mean anything
1:21:50
SPEAKER_02: to you guys, but I was young.
1:21:56
SPEAKER_02: I would I was living with my grandpa and.
1:22:01
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys remember when you watched TV on Channel 2,
1:22:04
SPEAKER_02: how you found your channel and what was going?
1:22:07
SPEAKER_02: Because it would just scroll down and you can see what's playing, right?
1:22:11
SPEAKER_02: You might not be able
1:22:12
SPEAKER_00: to know.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_02: But you watch Channel 2 and it's going down.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_02: And my grandpa, he's like, oh, I can put it on.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_02: I forget what the show was, but it played at a different time.
1:22:23
SPEAKER_02: But it was just him going out of his way and saying, hey, I want to do this thing for you.
1:22:28
SPEAKER_02: We can watch and do whatever you want to do.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, and it just stuck with me and it's so insignificant,
1:22:36
SPEAKER_02: but it was a time when I felt like I finally, I was feeling some, some love.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_02: So just being there with my grandpa's number one,
1:22:46
SPEAKER_02: but number two,
1:22:47
SPEAKER_02: the eternal loop,
1:22:48
SPEAKER_02: it would just,
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: it would be anything really that I can, I can spend more time with my mom.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_02: That simple.
1:22:55
SPEAKER_02: She, I was 23 years old when she passed away and she was like,
1:23:00
SPEAKER_02: The only thing that I really had.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_02: So that would be the eternal loop would just be anything to kind of hang out
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: with her and ask her some questions.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_02: She left before I was an adult.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_02: And now as an adult, I think back on everything that happened.
1:23:25
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just curious why those things happen that way.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_02: You didn't have any help.
1:23:32
SPEAKER_02: What were you going through with the systems and all this?
1:23:36
SPEAKER_02: I would really love to know what she
1:23:41
SPEAKER_00: was going through.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm getting emotional too, bro.
1:23:44
SPEAKER_00: Did I think about that with my mom?
1:23:46
SPEAKER_00: We had a great relationship.
1:23:49
SPEAKER_00: She died of cancer and I took care of her for nine months.
1:23:53
SPEAKER_00: We were always close, but Like, that's one of the things.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_00: If I'm on that internal loop, one of them would be my mom, too.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_00: And exactly that.
1:24:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, I never really asked, hey, mom, like, how are you really feeling?
1:24:07
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:24:08
SPEAKER_00: Not just like, I'm mom, I'm strong.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm good, I'm good.
1:24:11
SPEAKER_00: But no, no, you're human.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_00: And to me, it's the perception thing that you talk about, right?
1:24:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, to me, it's mom.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_00: She's strong.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't have to worry
1:24:21
SPEAKER_02: about it.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter what's going on.
1:24:23
SPEAKER_02: She got it.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_02: And she carried so much.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_02: And she carried so much, bro.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't realize it when she's alive, bro.
1:24:33
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:24:34
SPEAKER_00: To some degree, but now that I'm so aware, you understand?
1:24:38
SPEAKER_00: Like awareness is a curse in some ways.
1:24:41
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, damn,
1:24:43
SPEAKER_00: I was not fully aware of what my,
1:24:45
SPEAKER_00: even though I know I was fully aware of the love that, but I,
1:24:50
SPEAKER_00: I didn't have that capacity to be aware and be like, mom, like, how's it really?
1:24:54
SPEAKER_00: Because she had hard moments and I probably had a different perception of it.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, like they were probably really hard moments, but I didn't, I don't know.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_00: So it's exactly what you're saying, bro, you know, on a different level, that systems thing.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: That would be it, man.
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: That would be it.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I don't know.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_02: You've experienced death in your family and that's just something that doesn't go away.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, it'll creep up on me.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_00: It'll creep up on me at times.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_00: I saw some other creator talking about this.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_00: He was like,
1:25:21
SPEAKER_00: if you lose either your parents or your brother or your sister or,
1:25:25
SPEAKER_00: you know, some kind of like really nuclear family.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_00: You're not the same person, man.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_00: You never go back to that old person.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_00: You just can't.
1:25:32
SPEAKER_00: And I fully understood that after I had a lot of losses, you know?
1:25:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:25:39
SPEAKER_02: So you probably can get it to where every adult,
1:25:45
SPEAKER_02: minus my uncle who spent 20 years in jail and he's out, he's back home.
1:25:49
SPEAKER_02: But every adult, I either do not have contact with them or they've passed away.
1:25:54
SPEAKER_02: So I have...
1:25:55
SPEAKER_02: I feel, I am the adult of my childhood now.
1:25:59
SPEAKER_02: I am the one that's left.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_02: Everyone else has either passed away or they're my,
1:26:05
SPEAKER_02: I won't put too much out there,
1:26:07
SPEAKER_02: but I don't talk to them for whatever those reasons are.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_02: They're completely far gone.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_02: And I just, I wouldn't want that in my mind.
1:26:13
SPEAKER_02: And I'm all that's left.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_02: And I've got my siblings who, you know, I barely get to talk to.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_02: We were, when my mom passed away, she kept everyone together.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_02: And so when she passed,
1:26:26
SPEAKER_02: I went one way trying to find my sister over here and my brother over here.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_02: And years and years have passed.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_02: So we're not close like we were.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_02: And that's heavy because I want to be.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_02: But it's hard because we have to completely learn who each other are now.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_02: We do have childhood memories, but, you know, it's tough.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:26:47
SPEAKER_00: Travis, we got Kubo EGC saying, Travis, you are a leader, man.
1:26:50
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate that.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, better.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_00: And before you go, Travis,
1:26:55
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:26:55
SPEAKER_00: like the interesting thing about this internal loop question,
1:26:58
SPEAKER_00: it really kind of like,
1:27:00
SPEAKER_00: there's so many fascinating things about the answers that we get, right?
1:27:03
SPEAKER_00: But like, And I've done this with friends and all kinds of different people.
1:27:09
SPEAKER_00: And what's interesting is exactly what you said.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_00: You qualified right before you told us your first eternal.
1:27:14
SPEAKER_00: You're like, yeah, but guys, you guys are not going to care about this.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_00: It's so simple.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_00: It's so simple.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, you had to like disclaim it.
1:27:22
SPEAKER_00: And that disclaimer happens all the time.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_00: People are like, Yeah, it's not like some fancy luxurious vacation or anything.
1:27:28
SPEAKER_00: You know,
1:27:29
SPEAKER_00: it was just me like lying down in the lawn while my grandmother was talking
1:27:33
SPEAKER_00: with her other granny friends and, you know, the sun was shining.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the fuck?
1:27:39
SPEAKER_00: That's your return?
1:27:39
SPEAKER_00: And then like,
1:27:41
SPEAKER_00: you know,
1:27:41
SPEAKER_00: you really get to like, like the essence of what you feel like you really are.
1:27:47
SPEAKER_00: Because sometimes people are like, It's jogging, right?
1:27:50
SPEAKER_00: Like jogging.
1:27:50
SPEAKER_00: That's when I can hear my heart.
1:27:52
SPEAKER_00: I can feel my heart.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_00: I can feel the breath coming out and there's this peace and the clouds go away
1:27:57
SPEAKER_00: and I see the sky.
1:27:58
SPEAKER_00: That's one thing.
1:27:59
SPEAKER_00: And then you have another person.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_00: When I was in the locker room,
1:28:02
SPEAKER_00: when I was a soccer player and we were all like family and we're going to go out
1:28:08
SPEAKER_00: to battle.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting to see what people choose as an eternal loop.
1:28:15
SPEAKER_00: I really like that.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_02: I like that close.
1:28:17
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
1:28:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_00: Cool.
1:28:20
SPEAKER_00: All right, guys.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
1:28:21
SPEAKER_00: So, Cisco, any final words?
1:28:23
SPEAKER_00: This was the best Vibe session ever, Cisco.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_00: I think so, bro.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate you, Travis.
1:28:27
SPEAKER_01: This was a delightful conversation.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_01: That was... Oh, my God.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_00: I got number two.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_00: No, Cisco, put that on.
1:28:38
SPEAKER_02: We got to end on a good note.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_02: We got to end.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_00: Travis, I really appreciate you.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_00: I know you're busy.
1:28:45
SPEAKER_00: You had a fucking hard week, dude.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_00: You're amazing.
1:28:50
SPEAKER_00: You're just inspirational, bro.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_00: Let's keep talking.
1:28:52
SPEAKER_00: Join the community and we'll talk more.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay, man?
1:28:55
SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_01: Alright, guys.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_00: Peace.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_00: Until next time.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_01: Peace out, everybody.