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Betting on Buffalo in 2026 - Triple Coverage Podcast · Built In Buffalo Podcast Network

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's it, Bill's fans, Lance Nelson, president of built in Buffalo here with Benjamin Schupe, almost to America's 250th birthday here, so we're all excited for Independence Day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Since the last time we were here to talk with you, I was on vacation last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's get into a little football talk, sub-shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nothing much, you know, great week of sports in Reno, um, not still not too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm the bills for NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the kind of the guess still that dead issues in for the NFL, but in general sports has been a phenomenal week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the World Cup got NHL and BA action going on with all the
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[SPEAKER_01]: for agency and trades and baseball, you know, is right now obviously still going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, good week of sports, excited to dive into kind of maybe what, what the sports books thinks of the bills and what they predict for around what the bills will be at and for their players and team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so excited to dive into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, quick thoughts first thing bills ribbon cutting at the stadium they finally were able to get occupancy or temporary at least and then how do you love ribbon cutting ceremonies is your favorite thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, I'm going to be honest and part of it for me might be because I do look right next to it and I see it every day is I don't really get the hype in general at this point like I get now it's starting to get to the point in the buffaloes, you know, which will though is also arrived, or though that in the last two buffaloes arrived or buys in whatever whichever the technical term for what they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that that was cool to see and it's cool to see the progress, but I just like things like the ribbon cutting ceremony or you know, just all the little things that they kind of throw in there that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to me don't get me too excited because it's like okay cool you cut the ribbon you're showing the inside I don't care unless I'm there at this point because I've seen the outside already seeing the inside's cool but you know at this point I'm kind of just be like all right I just want to be in there and I don't really care to watch a bunch of people celebrate the opening of the stadium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in general, so cool to see the inside and cool to just see the stadium in general, but maybe it's just like I said, because I live right near the stadium and see it every single day and have seen the progress from every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of just ready to be in the stadium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm hyped to get over there and see the the big ass buffaloes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so have you, you've driven past them, obviously, have you stopped to see them at all or just just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I driven volume.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, PSA, if you're going to drive by to look at the stadium, please vote park and what, please don't stop in the middle of the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, they are big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people have already stated and will continue to say they like them maybe better than the smaller of baby one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can also kind of see, I guess, where the smoke's going to come out because I believe there's going to be smoke coming out of the buffaloes if I'm not right, they can, they're going to have though it's a little all light up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can kind of tell when you're driving by like seeing it where the smoke's going to come out and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, it's cool to cool to see it is now way out like said, I want to be able to walk up to them in an actually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: go see them up close and personal now with with the excitement of hey I'm going to watch that the team open the stadium up for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be exciting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going to be exciting to get some photos nearby and just see you know obviously the first home game of the regular seasons going to be a night game so we're going to show those off first thing
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it's a couple other things really quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John came in nice comment here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John is that DJ Amore did reach out and bought $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1,
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[SPEAKER_00]: really quick and understand why that he was going to make an impact and he was sort of asked about that during that podcast about what sort of impact he's going to make off the field and how to pretty get answered there so you can check out Buffalo under the helmet on YouTube and check out DJ's spot there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the other thing I saw, T.J. Parker was on the centered on Buffalo podcast with Eric Wood, and I just thought was interesting episode with Eric, so if you haven't checked out center on Buffalo with Eric Wood and T.J. Parker, go check that out as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, at the end of it, or towards the end of it, his go-to move when he needs to, to get a past rush when he's the long arm, and then I actually saw something on Twitter from one of the old lineman pages that, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a guy telling people how to defeat the long arms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought it was interesting that a TJ sort of gave away is go to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as a rookie, you know, how much success do you think a rookie can really have with a go-to move?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You think that's something that they can really rely on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things do what got you here, kid, but also you're going to have to make some adjustments when you get to the big leagues here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say I do think it's good that he's aware that he has a go-to movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably he has more than one or he's going to, maybe they're kind of getting that in no one of like, hey, you have your one go-to, you've got to add, you've got to have three or four go-to, it's like three or four that you know, hey, I can be this, this or this, or at least more than one, you know, two at the least.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's good he has to go to like you said is it great that he is maybe saying it what it is and kind of being as open about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's one of those things we're at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might be able to, you know, know from a video and often someone will be able to know from that video or whatever thinking in a game, but at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you've got to be ready for it when you're lined up in that football's down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if it's not like the lineman arc in a scout him and know that that's something he's going to want to use either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, for a year how many years do people probably say, you know, they knew JJ Watts go to move or they knew, you know, TJ, TJ water, Miles Garrett, they know, but at the end of the day, if it's good enough,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll get the job done right if it's if it's really that good and it's that that could have moved you it shouldn't matter based on how much can he make an impact with that his rookie here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is tough just because it's such a crowded deline room and two rookies in general.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're a top pick, I feel like it's it's a little hard to make a massive impact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can make, you know, big time moments and come up big in the playoffs or anything, but as a whole season of like production, I'm not expecting him to go out there and beat the bills first, second, or even third, maybe even fourth
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right on, yeah, we'll see how they're able to progress there and what his role grows into as the season wears on and injuries have a way of evening things out, so even though he's not expected to play a major role, we may see him get into more action than expected at times if things roll a certain way, which we knock on wood hope, that doesn't happen, but you always
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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into the meat and potatoes of the show and the bedding stuff, John wrote a great question of asking about our dear friend Scott here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing great, healing up, he's hopefully going to be able to rejoin us after the holiday here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how it's going, but I'll just take it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: day at a time and hopefully once he's able to sit for extended period of time with us here we'll have him back and we'll be happy to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So keep healing there Scott.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take it away Benjamin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ready for some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: little betting talk and, you know, this is, you're set up before the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was like Scott's sidebat and like Scott's got some betting guy and he's not even here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do have to plug.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott's gonna.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be just gonna be thing on a blog.
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[SPEAKER_00]: before the season with, you know, propets and things of that nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see if you watch this episode and see what lines were given today and you go back and read Scott's blog before the season starts, how the lines might have shifted between now and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one thing I'll be looking out for and hope you guys enjoy Scott's blog when he does drop it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of had something pop up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're a quick, um, on my phone, but go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, what am I going into?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So quick, just no to everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go through some players, some of the teams, there's the prop bets, what their lines are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the defense doesn't really have too many major things to talk about when it comes to betting, um, one because
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[SPEAKER_01]: defense of player prop betting isn't as big obviously as offensive players and the bills also don't really have any stud superstar deep defense of players that are in the running for defense of player the year heavily, but we will talk about that a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about the offense first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll start with some player props start with the big man on campus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The
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[SPEAKER_01]: quote unquote owner of the Miami Dolphins, you know, the best quarterback for the league, the best quarterback at my mind, Joshua Allen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got three different lines I go on to talk to you about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna throw them out there and then you don't want you to pick which one that kind of intrigues you the most or you like the most or you hate the most, whichever you want to pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's got passing touchdowns, rush or passing yards and then his MVP odds,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So his passing touch challenge right now at for minus one times at 24 and a half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think he gets over 24 and a half?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you get 25 or more?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Passing yards 3,599 and a half, so 3,600 or more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then MVP odds, he is the highest MVP odds right now according to every all these odds are gonna be draft games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's at plus 550, right behind him is the more drags and it's plus 650 and then my homes, the Herbert and Burrow all tied at plus 1000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe May might have been right next, I like plus 1,100.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So out of those three for Josh Allen, if you had to pick one that you're gonna go with or the one that maybe just intrigues you the most, which is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd pick the touchdowns over 24 and a half touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he smashes that I might even parlay all three together and just throw if I get a $5 bonus better $10 bonus but on it might just throw all three together if I can and rip it in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like the over 24 and a half touchdowns for Josh Allen I think he's going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit different than what we've seen last year or two under, you know, Sean McDermott, even though Joe Brady is still in town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's going to be a little bit more fire power there in the passing game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the yards I would take the over as well and, you know, we'll see about the MVP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just a lot of talented players out there and depending on
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[SPEAKER_00]: what team gets hot when and how all the standing shake out, you know, with the MVP voting, but I don't think that I'd be shy about sprinkling a little bit there on the MVP, but my favorite of the three, again, is over 24 and a half touchdowns at minus 110.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do like both the the props both 25 five or more touch drum passes than 3600.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think they're going to pass it more this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if they're going to go a little bit back to it, they're not going to go completely obviously away from what they've been.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still going to run the ball a good amount.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that he's going to smash those, especially the passing touchdowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's easy over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The MVP will know intrigues me the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I really don't like those odds for Josh Allen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know, you know, it's still plus money, either way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for a future that's so unpredictable in a lot of years, yes, you always have the top main guys up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't think I would take that right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would wait to go into the season, see if it drops, no, maybe I feel the first few weeks if somebody else makes a huge push, you know, alarm, if he has a big first few weeks, it burrow lights it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... because like if i'm looking at it and i'm looking burrow at plus a thousand or jashay on a plus five fifty even though i think jashay on yes does have a better chance to win it which is the odds are telling you that i would take burrow at plus a thousand because i think those are just
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[SPEAKER_01]: in general, a better chance, obviously higher payout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't necessarily love his MVP ads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably going to wait on that on to be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because even if it's week eight, I don't know if it's going to be, and he's leading the vote or leading like the consensus, I still don't know if it's going to be that much higher than plus by 50.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the only thing you're about to say about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His rushing, I didn't really see that one too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At least rushing touchdowns I didn't see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think rushing yards was somewhere in the 500s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What like 500 do you think he's I don't think he's really going to come close to 500 or 600 if I'm being honest, you know, he's I think as he's got an older yes he'll still run I but I don't think we're seeing I think I saw maybe maybe four in the 400 but I thought I saw in the 500 for his rushing yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that he won't hit that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Roy does bring up a QB like Josh Hale and have it not having 4,000 in a season is critical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That it kind of is, but I wanna look it up here, I think, a while when you have to leave, meeting Russia, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably why he didn't have...
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, also, I don't know if you could look it up, Lance, who, there was, there wasn't that many 4,000 in our passers last year, like in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on the stats page right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look it up on the set.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're with that many last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I want to say maybe seven guys reached 4,000
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little few more, but like a lot of the guys towards the end were like just barely over a thousand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, well, I do think they need to get close to 4,000.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that same day in age of 2012 where, you know, you got Peyton thrown for 5,000 degrees pretty much averaging 5,000 over three years stretch, right, and those earlier than that time period, but, you know, it's it's a different time period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There could be
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jew and clock games are going to be a little bit slower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So six guys over 4,000 staffed 4,700 golf 45 press got 45 Drake May 43 Sam Donald 4,048 and Trevor Lawrence just deeped it out with 4,07 Josh Allen had 30,668 last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I would like to see it though closer to
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[SPEAKER_00]: 383900 I think he may be in the 4,000s this year for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, again, I just think he will be throwing the ball a little bit more, or the offense is going to open up a bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that you have the ability to see him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His stats are going to rise, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to, it's funny that I don't have his rushing touchdowns
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like it would have to be a double digit line for at least 15 12 and 14 the last three years 579 yards last year 531 before that 524 then he was in the 700s two years before that the year where they did I think 2020 maybe was one of their best offensive years potentially with more passing he had 421 so still
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[SPEAKER_00]: got over 400, but you know, didn't quite eclipse the 500 mark when they did have one of their best offensive seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is great because he didn't need to run as much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He should be distributing the ball of the makers and not having to do as much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what makes the bills the best team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know who's rushing and who's in rushing
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[SPEAKER_01]: the other big big dog at the soft had some where you said leading rush for last year his rushing and herds are obviously significantly lower than what he had last year for his odds they have him at
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[SPEAKER_01]: one thousand two hundred and forty nine and a half so twelve hundred fifty or more can he get that I think well I'll start this work because I think his rushing touchdowns numbers ten half I think that's too low I think Josh Allen with his number would be higher than that and I just think he's gonna hit that I think they're gonna give him the ball he's a big he loves to get that extra effort to get in sometimes I think he's going to be a guy that hit the end zone 11 plus times on the ground his rushing yards
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say he doesn't hit that for two reasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One like I said, I do think I'm going to throw it a little more and I also think they're going to utilize him a little bit more maybe in the passing game, which also I think in turn they'll have to lean on the other guys is a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of been open and vocal about like I want a little bit more opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll see him used a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now if that's in the wrong game of the past game we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if he hits that number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I last year was a phenomenal year.
22:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But what did he have in the 1500 last year?
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: 1621 last year?
22:13
[SPEAKER_00]: 1621 last year.
22:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is a phenomenal season.
22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so hard.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: to do that two seasons in a row, I think he'll get close to 1250.
22:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think he'll hit it.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 1100 yards after your contact.
22:30
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty wild.
22:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the best.
22:34
[SPEAKER_00]: The best was Jonathan Taylor with 1227 and then 1225 for Eric here, which you can imagine.
22:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And then 1121 for B-John and then it was cooked with 1102.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: So
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, interesting, just over 1100 yards after contact alone, and then 1600 yards total.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I gotta think that he comes darn near close to the 1250 mark.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're gonna completely abandon the run, but I do think they're gonna throw the ball more, but I think there's also gonna be still scoring a bunch of points, and it's not gonna be like an offense is going, I don't think the offense's gonna slow down, I think they're gonna,
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: be able to, everyone's going to be able to raise up and still produce.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that you're going to completely take James Cook away.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'd expect him to finish between 13 and 1,400 yards next year for James Cook.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think he's going to hit it, but I don't think he'll be far off.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll be right around that 1200 yard mark, which still is phenomenal season.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think some Bill's fans would be like, watch James Cook only has 12 hundred yards, like what it would have had.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: like that, that can't be that great.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That's still a very good season.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't expect 1600 yards again.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That if he does it again, oh my gosh, that then we're in a different conversation with James Cook.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think even in the NFL analyst, if he gets towards 15, 1600 again, then it's that conversation of, okay, where does he really belong with these other running backs in this conversation?
24:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a different one.
24:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a real reason why I think he is special.
24:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I think his game is special enough to warrant him in that conversation.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to get, like I said, I, I pack him between 13 and 1400 yards.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'll get to 15, but I think he'll, he'll be right, you know, over 1300 would be where I would be comfortable still taking it.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So the over on the 120, our 12 49 and a half, I would hit
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I think you're going to have to be having that conversation of just how special and how good it is James Cook comparing him to his peers.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in order for him to be in that conversation, he'd also have to be in another conversation during the season this year.
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And that'd be often to play the year.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: His odds right now said it plus 1800.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I like those odds.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do what we honest.
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The guys in front of them, there's still a few more than the five of them about to read, but the top five in that is gives it plus 650, B. John plus 850, Jamar Chase at plus 1200 and Puka plus 1300.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously this is a lot of tough names that he's going to be going up against.
25:11
[SPEAKER_00]: The five that I just mentioned.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I mean, yeah, you don't dare
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Taylor, who you just had on there, say quen Barclay, who obviously had a down season last year, but is two two seasons removed from a 2,000, almost 2,000 year in season.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hit it.
25:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't hit 2,000 year in.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2,000 year in season.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, to see what AJ Brown looks like for his odds in New England there.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason, just wanted to last year.
25:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not even in the top five this year.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's so many guys who are going to have to beat out.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you really think that he can win this?
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you kind of just alluded to it.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think his odds should be higher?
25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he should be in that conversation with Puka, Jumar, B-John, Gibbs of, hey, this guy really can win this award.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not there yet.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I need one more season of really major, major production, especially in both the air and the ground.
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think guys like Gibbs and B. John and especially as like Puker, like they're just they're so in such great situations and they're so talented that I just think it's going to be tough for him to get to that.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But do you think that he maybe should be a little higher than that?
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it should be any higher.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love, like you said, I love the odds.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't mind sprinkling on that.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think after this year, like I mentioned with the yards and the touchdowns, too, is like, I do think that he's gonna take a step forward in some of the roles that we haven't seen him in yet.
26:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that he's not gonna completely take over the back field.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna need to be spelled by Ray Davis and Johnson and I think that
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, everyone's going to want to be rotated there, but I do think Cook's going to have an uptick even in his passing game as receiving stats.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that would help him have more of a chance with it.
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: If he is able to come close to leading the league and rushing again and then has better receiving stats as well, then you're getting close to that Christian McAfrey,
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And those kind of guys obviously gives that that do everything out of the back field and I think James Cook has every ounce of the ability to do so I just think that you know he's going to have to we should have seen if there was any fumble props here because I think he had eight fumbles last year as you need to lower that number and
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: up there on NFL.
27:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus for what it's worth next gen stats as much six fumbles three lost, but maybe there's two more in the playoffs.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe this is regular season only, but he didn't have at least one in the playoffs and all that perfect.
27:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
27:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you're going to have to, you know, you're not the lower that number if you want to have, if you want to win that award, but I think he'll do that and I'm excited to see, you know, I've been pretty high in him for fantasy purposes too and I've been drafting him and
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I took him even in the, I, all the main running backs that everyone told you to take were gone in the second round last year, so I ended up pairing him with another top tier running back in my, on my teams and getting him in the second round and, and went very well for me as you could see by that belt over my shoulder, I did beat and shoot in the fantasy football league for the built in Buffalo.
28:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I also won my other league.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in with my buddies in the in an ESPN format.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh,
28:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I was high on cook.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been riding him in fantasy for the last two years and I think that it's only going to keep going from here.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, well, if I picked before you the share, no matter what, I, even if I'm first overall, I mean, I'm first off taking James Cook and that you're not getting them, that's all I know.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to somehow regate where I get a pick before you, but we'll figure that out at different date.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, yeah, it's going to be tough.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Offers player the year.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be awesome to win it.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd wonder though how much
29:11
[SPEAKER_01]: how much Josh Allen's play would have an impact on how they would view him in that aspect.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we'd have to see if Josh kind of has a, you know, messies in for Josh and Cook still has a phenomenal season.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's going to be looked at differently.
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But if Josh also has a phenomenal season, it might be like, well, you know, Josh, like if Josh wins MVP, it's like, well, can we really give an MVP and off and
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought Roy's kind of right here.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Off topic.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: When does PPP make their debut on B, B, I B, do you know that?
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure exactly when they're going to start yet.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard the initial date.
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a date out, it would be on our Facebook or Twitter.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, check the Facebook page.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They just dropped a little teaser today, I think.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they're going to be coming happy to have them join us.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And should be seeing those guys pretty soon.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right, sorry, I just wanted to just saw that pop in there real quick, but yeah James Cook that those are his three big guys we're going to talk about the last for the offense, why does she first tight ends were obviously not going to go through all of them because there's not even odds for all of them like Graph kings are not going to have odds for Jackson House, you're not going to have odds for, you know, Skyler Bell right they're not going to have them for the
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Keon might have them for all we know, but from what I saw, three really big guys that I want to talk about.
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: DJ Moore Cluesch here at Dalton Concade, which one did you like to go over first?
30:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, Kinkade is one of the more interesting ones, excuse me, that I want to talk about first because I'm interested to see how much they're going to feature him in this offense now.
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he can stay healthy, I think he absolutely obliterates both those numbers.
31:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his numbers are very, um,
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, what am I, what's the word I'm looking for?
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Giving very giving.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's best I can come up with right now.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is, there's low to me.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And it has touched on numbers obviously by the odds are a little bit misleading.
31:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's, it's, it's, it's touched on numbers three and a half.
31:25
[SPEAKER_01]: but it's minus 165.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not getting what you're getting for Josh Allen obviously it's not a major difference, but still three and a half touchdowns is low.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if it was five and a half, I would even consider hitting that.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know yes, he had his issues staying on the field and all that, but I really think he is a weapon in the red zone for this offense.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one that I am,
31:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even if I can get it at four and a half, I'm going to smash it for better odds.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just think Dalton can kid if he's not can stand the field, which again is a big if I know we're not talking about Justin Herbert, we're talking about Dalton can kid, but I think three and a half's too low.
32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's easily going to get four because of you.
32:06
[SPEAKER_01]: he's just a huge part.
32:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of last season, even when I look back at last season, remember last season, I feel like a lot of plays came down to an important place where him and the bat back at the end zone or him just find a way to get him the ball in the red zone.
32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that number for him.
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: His yards.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: is 549 and a half that one the only reason I'm hesitant is because of injury.
32:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think even with injuries, he can still hit the touchdowns easily even if he missed four games.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could easily hit that.
32:34
[SPEAKER_00]: They are or shame even.
32:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He might just have four touchdowns week one, you know, one shock me.
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could hit half of that in one game.
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I like easily.
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just think that number is easy.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: His yards one is the one that kind of makes me take a step back.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I do think if he plays 17 games, even 16, I think he's hitting that.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he plays 12 13 and if Josh Allen can hit him on some deeper routes like he's been trying to, then I think that obviously is going to, if you have deeper routes and complete them, you're going to have more yards by virtue of that.
33:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So that would also help achieve that goal.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And you said you're going to smash bogus on that 550 for yards and four touch chunks and you got anything else on, on doing add on that.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think, you know, it can kids poised to have, it's, it's make a breaks or a thing and I think he's going to come out and, you know, surprise people.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe people think he can do it.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So it won't be as big of a surprise when I think he's going to be able to work out a little bit better this year.
33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, a clip's both of those numbers in my opinion.
33:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've been as many as he's been the big news is about we're going to trainers with him and getting that knee right But yeah, I mean a few get stay on.
33:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's gonna nail it next question.
33:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I got just about the two or two years.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna merge them together with their yards I just want your answer on who you think is has a better chance of getting the over on their yards DJ more.
33:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure here.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell people the numbers.
34:06
[SPEAKER_01]: First, we can see it on our screen.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't see your screen there, Ellen.
34:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, D.J.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Moore is at 824 and a half.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So 825 and more.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Clish Care is at 649 and a half of 6.50.
34:18
[SPEAKER_01]: 6.50 for Clish Care.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: and 825 for more.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You said your answer.
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to disagree though.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go D.J.
34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: more.
34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a reason they traded for them.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason they guaranteed him that money and kind of said, hey, we're going to take care of you here.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But actually, make sure you're locked down.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to worry about that.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: About, you know, us cutting in three years or anything like that.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's in and out.
34:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to get over 900 easier.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to hit a housing.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Klu is she here.
34:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like his number.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just think it's tough for a guy that I believe I heard he had seven total catches past seven yards or maybe no, maybe he's in last night.
35:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I WGR had the number yesterday or two days ago.
35:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was either three or seven catches over seven yards, over seven hairy yards.
35:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, hairy yards.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that that's just so hard to get over 650 if you're continuously doing that.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Now do I think it's going to stay that way this year.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not and I don't think so.
35:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like both numbers, but I would say I would go with the dream more as I think the one that is more likely to hit that.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I think TJ Moore just opens up the offense so much more.
35:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No pun intended that.
35:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Killioch here, you know, it's going to be, it should be easy to have TJ Moore add her around or even above 900.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Killioch here around.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He was at 719 last year, somewhere around 700 again, and Dalton can cater over 550.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think all three of those, if the offense,
35:53
[SPEAKER_00]: hits it's stride and is able to click in the passing game.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are all achievable numbers.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you have, if you look at the wide receiver yards list from last year, you have multiple teammates that have over a thousand yards, and then you have multiple teammates where they, they, and their teammate both are over eight, 50, let's say, or eight, you know, T-Higgins, eight, 46 with, you know, chase well over a 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1
36:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not impossible for these guys to put up those stats.
36:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's a lot of the top 35 all had over 789 and there's a bunch of pairs of teammates there.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So, can Kade himself last year had 571.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't see that coming down for a concave.
36:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see clear obscure really regressing more much.
36:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that, you know, DJ Moore is going to add to that and all those maybe some of those targets and the things that some of the plays that didn't go well, some of the volume plays might go away, but it's going to be more effective for guys like Shakira.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be like I said, the volume.
37:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have more room to operate down field.
37:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you will see that five to 15 yard range for Clio Schkeer really open up with DJ Moore in the lineup.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just, like I said, when it's tough to see Shakir get that just because of the circumstances of, you know, we do like to run the ball.
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't necessarily get downfield on areas.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think they'll change a little bit like I said, but I just think D.J.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Moore as much as he has to help help everybody.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think if he doesn't hit his number, like just the perception of,
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: you gave up a second on pick you guarantee them all this money for eight hundred yards like it's going to be tough, but I mean, if the offense is rolling off is rolling out, I don't think anybody will care at the end of the day.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I'm not fully expected to get a thousand.
37:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really think that.
37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, last year, I mean, last year, Clio Scherry obviously did hit his number.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He had seven nineteen last year.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the leading receiver as well.
38:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So if we're looking at last year,
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's DJ more not hitting as number if we're looking at last year's receiving court, right?
38:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That should have changed though.
38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, I didn't even mention this.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking right now at if we're looking at everybody's lines this year Josh Allen had 25 touchdowns last year.
38:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So he would have hit his touchdowns.
38:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He had 36668 yards.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So he would have hit that last year.
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I believe we wouldn't have won that.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: James Cook smashed his yards rushing touchdowns.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He had 12.
38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So you also hit that.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would have been over as well.
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, off and later that you didn't do that.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Shakira hit his, don't concede also hit his last year as well with five touchdowns and five on whichever one you are.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I know some people might, you know, look at this to say, oh, you guys are saying that everyone should hit.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the last year, do you look like last year?
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Great offense.
39:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't I?
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this isn't, these numbers aren't astronomical.
39:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, you know, you had Kyle Pitts had like 900 yards tight end.
39:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not expecting that, but you know, Bowers, 680, you know, DJ Moore had a down here.
39:22
[SPEAKER_00]: It's 680, 2 last year with the bears and his with Josh Allen as his quarterback and be more the focal point, you know,
39:32
[SPEAKER_00]: 150 more yards.
39:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Easy.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just, and yeah, the bills didn't necessarily have anybody, you know, as a secondary receiver coming in over the top like that, they had secure and concave as they're as their top, but yeah, I think that some of it, again, some of these targets that that went to other people, you know, are going to, you had.
39:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here, 23 to Shivers, which he's going to get 17 to more, 18 to Gabe Davis, there's 35 right there, 11 to cooks, there's 46, and then nine to Samuel, there's 54 just off the bat.
40:16
[SPEAKER_00]: can go to DJ Moore.
40:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously probably going to take some targets away from the other guys as well, right?
40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's just going to be more efficient.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Still, 10 yards per reception, basically, for a Clealshcare last year, a positive receiving EPA can create a huge,
40:39
[SPEAKER_00]: a 338.5 receiving EPA.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it can get a plus player 90.1 area, it's part of it.
40:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that Shakira's biggest thing is average separation 3.8, I think he's going to improve so much on that because he's going to have more space.
40:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then his catch percentage went down, catch rate went down to 75.8% last year.
41:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But I really, I guess I think that Shakira
41:06
[SPEAKER_00]: it's going to be more effective, more efficient in this offense.
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So even if he if you take 20 targets away from 15 targets away from him, he's still going to be in that 65 range averaging 12 15 yards of catch and I think that gets him to where he needs to be for that over.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: John brings this up real quick last thing on the offense and you can just give me a simple answer if you want.
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You can give a long one.
41:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give a simple one.
41:35
[SPEAKER_01]: The Stevie thinks Keon will have 200 more yards in the last season.
41:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He had four and four last years.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've got about 600.
41:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's happening, my opinion.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would smash the under on that.
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I would put honestly my, I'd probably put my entire bank account.
41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: on that.
41:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I, I would smash it if it was they gave him 404 yards, which was what his number was last year.
41:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to even hit that if I'm being honest.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying you think that's going to happen, John.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're just saying that Stevie thinks that, but Stevie, man, we love you.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hope to see again soon, but I don't, I don't know about that one.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bold prediction for me.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
42:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just not on the key on Coleman train.
42:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that I hope that the wizard, Stevie Johnson, proves to be right.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all love.
42:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I obviously want to be optimistic for the guy and you can't give up on him just yet.
42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that for me, I just maybe instead of, if it instead of Cleo Shakir,
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Then maybe he on Coleman's the biggest benefactor in this offense with DJ Moore there and creating more space and giving him better matchups and things like that.
42:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That could get him there, but I mean, I don't know.
43:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like that TJ Moore or Shakira and Conquade trio are going to be the main focal point and unless, you know, he had 59 targets last year, Kionne for 38 receptions, you know, if that,
43:15
[SPEAKER_00]: if that catch rate improves, you know, maybe, again, if this whole thing that Josh is working on gets there and they get the hit more or, you know, if they start hitting that slam because there's more room with Shakir and everything.
43:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I just think there's there's going to be those type of things in play and if everything works out perfectly, then yeah, you'll you'll have that, but I don't
43:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't see it either.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he said maybe two, two more touchdowns.
43:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you had?
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, four last year.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd maybe say, okay, that's a different conversation six touchdowns.
43:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a different one because he is maybe more a red zone guy.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't think that's going to happen.
43:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think, unless, unless somebody gets hurt, like unless DJ more gets hurt, unless he even James Cook gets hurt, and they have to rely on the passing game that much more.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that would happen, but, I mean, I hope Stevie, at least is right in the sense of he's maybe scaled enough to get 200 more yards, but I just don't know if that's going to happen.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, we're going to we're going to fly through this next little bit the defense.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The defense part, I'm going to ask you quick, just give me a yes, no, and if you have a yes, who.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to go to the defense now, that's going to be the offense defense, like said, not really much was there, but defense, a player the year, two guys that had odds kind of out there, Bradley Trump at plus 775 100, at all of her at 12,500, two, I've seen top to plus plus 30,000, one, do you think either have a chance and do you think any other
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't really see a defense player the year necessarily if Cole Bishop comes out of nowhere and makes a huge impact, you know, he's getting some traction with people and could be a name to watch there.
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't know if we're so somehow turns into this massive pressure that can put sacks in the stat sheet.
45:20
[SPEAKER_00]: In this defense, then Rousseau has the ability, those are the only things I can think of.
45:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that the lion backers are going to be there to do anything within the defense of player, the year realm, and yeah, I don't see any of the defense, just yeah, I mean, I guess until I see more of these guys in this scheme, it's going to be hard for me to really
45:46
[SPEAKER_00]: put much stock.
45:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I really like to see them have a little success before I go thinking the world of them in this defense.
45:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see how they're going to attack and I know, uh, no doubt in my mind that they're going to be attacking and more aggressive, it's just we'll see how that all plays out for any one individual award.
46:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You're muted, buddy, where I can't hear you.
46:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I was muted my bed.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with where.
46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a difference player on the year.
46:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I just said that, Roy.
46:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think it's one.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the tough.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tougher than often player the year in my opinion for for a single player to win because you have one, how they how they do it.
46:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be, you know, Pat's for tan.
46:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of a year of like, oh, well, now they're going to go corner.
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: and compared the edge, like they've gone a lot, you know, with Miles Garrett and everything.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I just think it's a tough award.
46:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think maybe a guy like Christian Benford could get himself in that conversation if he has like an absolute lockdown year.
46:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They ship maybe, but safety, I feel like it's so hard to win it.
46:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really hard.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't think either edge has a chance.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: At all of them, he has a long shot.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's too such a tough award.
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go with, no, I don't think anybody will win it.
47:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Coach of the year, I want to talk about next.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Another year award, Joe Brady.
47:08
[SPEAKER_01]: He has the tied four, one, two, three.
47:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me count here real quick.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Fifth best odds.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I just count that correctly, yes.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: time for the fifth best odds harbors at plus 600 Jesse mentor involved more of the plus 800 Robert Sala in 10 a c plus a thousand kelvin more my guy shout out for his state broncos and he's coaching uh right now he's quarterback Tyler shut up one of my favorite quarterbacks in the league he's coaching over the same season plus 1200 and then tied with uh Todd Monk and over in Cleveland is Joe Brady at plus 1400 one do you like those odds for Joe Brady and two
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the five.
47:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he should be listed then higher than any of them?
47:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got the best opportunity out of all of them.
47:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he comes in knowing who he is and who his offense is.
47:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that really boats well for this team.
47:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they keep firing on all cylinders and are able to put together a special season under Joe Brady, then you may see, you know, if the Buffalo bills win 13 14 games with the schedule, you're going to see Joe Brady as coach of the year.
48:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's he's in one of the best positions out of all these guys.
48:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, mentor, yes, he's in a good position as well.
48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's Yelamar Jackson.
48:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Harrow being the highest is kind of crazy to me.
48:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the giants are all the height now and Jackson darts the height, but not all that, but it just seems a bit high for me.
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Salo, I get because the Titans were that bad.
48:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only reason I get that.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: My bet though, if I had to go besides Joe Brady is calling more, I think the Saints are going to have a huge turnaround.
48:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe it is, yes, it is voted on before the end.
48:48
[SPEAKER_01]: All of these awards are voted on before they're all regular season awards.
48:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so that's good.
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the good thing is the NFL does because there's other other other.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: league is that vote during the playoffs which is crazy.
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I do like his odds.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I like his and Colin Moore's the best at 12400 and 1400.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I think when it comes to who's in the best situation, I mean, it's tough to say that it's not Joe Brady.
49:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, he's kind of in the similar situation, I guess, to mentor of like, okay.
49:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The only difference is one's offense, a code, one's defense, a code.
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't have a build season now.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to throw, actually, I'll start with just the first one.
49:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Over under wins, 10 and a half.
49:30
[SPEAKER_01]: At minus 125, I mean, you can go ahead and take that one to start.
49:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go after you.
49:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm absolutely going to smash it, but I want to see I'm not going to play it until close to the season because I want to see if it trends down towards a minus 110 line as the season gets closer as people evaluate the schedule and you'll see this is the one that I'm very
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one minus 125, both Fandwell and draft Kings right now.
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the one I want to see when Scott's blog comes out before the season starts, how much the line might move in the next six weeks, eight weeks, because I think people at plus 105 to go under 10 and a half.
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: People might start taking that, given the bill schedule, being like, oh, they're going to get to 10, but I don't know if they're going to go more than that.
50:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like it.
50:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I like him to win 11 or 12 games this year for sure.
50:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but maybe that's just the bias fan in me.
50:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think when you have the best quarterback in the league, a top-fledged running back, you have every chance at least to get out there and win a bunch of games, regardless of your schedule.
50:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been playing first place schedules now for a while.
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is even, I believe, this year's going to be a second place schedule.
50:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So, still tough and still going to be hard, but, you know, they navigated it.
50:50
[SPEAKER_00]: last year, still got over there.
50:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how it goes.
50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't imagine the bill is not having 11 wins this season.
50:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did what barring something catastrophic, like an injury of some sort of major.
51:04
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I want to add to that, which I really everything you said, the only thing I want to add is
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: on top of everything you said, they should, in theory, they should have also four free wins against the dolphins and the drets.
51:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's, I know it's a tough, tougher schedule.
51:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a second place schedule still.
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a tough one.
51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of good opponents there and New England is on the way up and they obviously made it to Super Bowl last year.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: and their tough team.
51:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think if you have four free wins, you have an MVP style quarterback, there's no way you should not get to 11 plus even if you did just go through all the change you want there.
51:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to ask you this.
51:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't talk about this before the show.
51:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that I was going to ask you something during the
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: during the show that I wasn't going to tell you before.
51:54
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the part where I want to ask it.
51:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So 10 and a half wins is the bill's number.
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But there are only four other teams with plus that the bills have plus odds to have more wins than.
52:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So who do you think the betting lines favor having more wins than the Buffalo bills right now?
52:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Four teams.
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to rule out all of the AFC West because it's the AFC West.
52:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm gonna roll out.
52:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't roll out those that and that division.
52:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna roll out all of the AFC North.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Ravens.
52:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ravens, the bills are plus one twenty five to have more regular season wins in the Ravens.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the second second longest odds for the bills.
52:43
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is it's the second best team, I guess, or in this in this format, but there's second longest odds for any team for the bills that have more wins than that team.
52:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's three more teams all the
53:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go, oh, let's see.
53:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Eagles, C-harts ram.
53:11
[SPEAKER_00]: C-harts and rams, not the Eagles, not the Eagles.
53:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Fills are minus 120 to have more wins than the Eagles.
53:18
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot, not the Lion.
53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it an NFC, or NFC noise team?
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Why'd you say not the Lions?
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think with that division, you guys should cargo there, you've got minutes.
53:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Spoiler, it is the lines.
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
53:30
[SPEAKER_00]: The lines.
53:31
[SPEAKER_00]: C-hawks, Ravens, and Ram on Fandwell, at least I saw this and I had to bring it up.
53:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So, lions plus the bills are plus 115 to have more winds than the Detroit lions plus 100 to have more winds than the Seattle C-hawks plus 125 for the Ravens and then plus 175 for the Rams, which we can all understand.
53:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, everybody else, only four teams.
53:54
[SPEAKER_00]: that the bills are plus odds to have more wins.
53:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Patriots are even around even at minus 110, bangles minus 110 as well.
54:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Niners minus 115.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's the interest that I don't know.
54:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just want to thought that the same reason with the AFC North would the same reason I thought the AFC West was just it said.
54:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought kind of a little bit maybe with the AFC West as well.
54:26
[SPEAKER_01]: But Arizona's in that division in the 49ers, I feel like I looked at weird every year when it comes to their line.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think they saw that.
54:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's a good question.
54:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to answer these two quick, real quick.
54:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Roy, yes, Bill's second place schedule.
54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's close.
54:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's close when it comes to it on paper.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It might say something different.
54:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But the end of the day, once you get into the season, nobody knows how these teams are in a form.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Sandra, interesting question here.
54:53
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to answer them as you can, I'm just going to answer a quick.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not think for agency should be after the draft.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Simply put, just for agency and then draft is the draft.
55:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's also not like hockey or basketball or anything.
55:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Or unless you're getting a top flight pick in those sports, it's going to be some time for these guys to develop.
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not getting an impact player right away or NFL.
55:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can get an impact player pretty much right away if you want.
55:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're looking like Jason said here.
55:27
[SPEAKER_01]: they can draft for needs then or our best player available.
55:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
55:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I would still rather have the draft after for agency starts, but that's just me.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: John, we will get your question in a tour more closer to kind of training camp and everything I do see it.
55:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't want you just don't think I don't see it, but we will.
55:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He states a jackson actor previous shows as well.
55:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the quick answer is jackson at jacks.
55:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The next three I want to ask you.
55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to altogether ask with one of your favorite.
55:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and which one you you think is is kind of the best odds here.
55:59
[SPEAKER_01]: AMC's AMC championship to win it, just win the AMC, and then to win the Super Bowl.
56:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The odds for all those bills are favorites in the AMC East, and minus 125.
56:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Pats are plus 120, Jets won plus 1900, and then Dolphins plus 4000.
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: To win the AMC bills,
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: If the second best odds, Bravins are at plus 470, Builder at plus 5, times not far behind, Patriots are plus 760, Chiefs plus 770, Chargers plus 830, Super Bowl champs, Builders are plus 1000, they are only behind the Rams at plus 550, tied with the Ravens, and then the Sea Hodge are plus 1100, and then the Eagles, Pats and Chiefs are all plus 1600, so which out of those do you like the best for the build?
56:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I already put a bet on one of these, and I'm going to answer your question with a question which one do you think I already put a bet on?
56:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Super Bowl?
56:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
56:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So, had a bonus bet, whatever, plus one thousand for a $10 bonus bet, I throw it on there.
57:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I learned from our betting guru Scott Casson to use your...
57:11
[SPEAKER_00]: bonus bets on futures.
57:13
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what he does.
57:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like that.
57:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So I started doing that myself.
57:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought since I did put something on the next to when the NBA championship and then they did win the NBA championship.
57:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So the New York mix are in fact world champions of the NBA right now.
57:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And that feels very good.
57:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though free agencies now are clipsing their championship, which they had a good two week window to celebrate.
57:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like, hey, let's do it again and throw something on Buffalo here.
57:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't ever bet that prop before.
57:45
[SPEAKER_00]: So see what happens.
57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never bet that prop before.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: The bills have never won the Super Bowl before.
57:51
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great marriage.
57:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing I do with my teams, except for the red socks, because the red socks I just have no faith in to actually win.
58:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, savers, this was the first year I actually did it, because this is the first year I thought, oh, maybe they can't, um, with the build savers in my Celtics, which we're not going to get into right now.
58:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, rough.
58:14
[SPEAKER_01]: they I'll usually like throughout the season put little like five ten like just little one throughout the season so something like by the end of the same season I think you knew I had like ten little five dollar bets so I basically a hundred dollars for them to win it when it all so I'll do that throughout the season so I'll definitely do the bills again my favorite one
58:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my favorite ones that you have see even though it's minus 125, I just think that that's a lock and we haven't seen the other two, so it's hard for me to them do the other two at least.
58:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It's my brain hates all the bets that are minus to start with a minus symbol.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know what Scott would say to that.
58:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, he's teaching me, I'm trying, I'm trying to get, well, hey, I like the 10 and a half wins, minus 125, so I'm good there, but I don't know if I would touch it, minus 125 for the AFC East.
59:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a little bit too volatile for me and coming off a season where you didn't win it and you have a new coaching staff.
59:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably, I'd rather take my odds at some, you know, where all you have to do is get in the tournament and then you can win the AFC Championship or the
59:25
[SPEAKER_00]: they don't have to win a division to do that.
59:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's another one I like to wait.
59:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe this has a sort of role on like if I could sort of just throw randomly.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like AFC, championship or anything, that'd be one I'd wait on, just because I think throughout the season it can fluctuate and go up so easily early in the season.
59:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd maybe wait on that one.
59:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Last one I got here for you because I'm not going to go over the week one odds for that.
59:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we'll get to that closer to week one.
59:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this one and I thought it was really interesting on draft Kings wins after first five games.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And the first five games for the Buffalo Bills is a doozy.
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a tough first five games.
1:00:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You got at Houston hosting Detroit hosting the chargers hosting New England and then at the ramps.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The odds for that to go oh and five is plus 4,000 so they do not think that's gonna happen I think there's a very low chance that will happen to win one plus 700 so not even they still think it's not really likely But could happen two wins plus 250 three wins out of that plus 175
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I have the odds wrong on this.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, I do have the odds right on that.
1:00:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Four wins plus 340 and then five wins plus 1,200.
1:00:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Which one do you like the best when it comes to those odds?
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And do you think that's actually gonna happen?
1:00:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, I'd go for it plus 340.
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, I like those odds.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably would sprinkle on three as well at plus 175, which is the best odds of the lot here, but yeah, I probably hit four.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, yeah, the Rams game's tough.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be tough to get to four really realistically, but I hope in the book that trend in Houston to start home opener, you got to have that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chargers coming across the country, get out of here, New England, third straight home game now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going against New England, borrowing any again, borrowing any unforeseen circumstances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really getting that first one at Houston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then hopefully you can rattle off, I mean, it's one of the best home teams in the country or in the in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have the best chance there for them to go with three, you know, in a stretch when they're playing at home, even though the teams are on paper tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Still going to be early on Detroit's probably going to have things pretty well figured out, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know whether chargers in New England will be adjusting things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Still at that point in the season, then you go to the Rams, which is probably going to be on everyone's stock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It has probably an L when you look at your schedule and fill that out with wins and losses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd go for it plus 340.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I'm just because the odds and everything I would also go for extra pets used, and I think there's a good chance you can start for them on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Five, I know it would be nice, I just don't think that's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, even though the odds I know plus 12, 1200, I actually think there's a better chance they go, I wouldn't five, then they go, five and oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm being completely honest, I just think it's such a tough stretch of games, especially to start the season when you're still kind of getting everything sat and teams are figuring out who they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's so tough to start the season five and all, especially against these top five teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would actually, if I had to choose, I would take zero or five, is it bad that won the odds-wise is like kind of talk to me a little bit?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it will happen, but again, it's such a tough one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could realistically, if you dropped that first one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you wouldn't against, like, it's, I don't know, it's just so tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would definitely, I would be able to get lower than to, honestly, I mean, you could talk me into throwing something on to at plus 250.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to throw it on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think when you're talking odds and the schedule, I think it's not bad odds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were plus 700 at one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I would take three or four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would take three or four, but, um, and yes, John is correct here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they want to get to four, he's going to need to play better in Houston.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you're going to need that one if you're going to want to get to four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they get there if they don't get, they don't win against season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're supporting Kester, that's what you got to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk more about it as it gets closer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, you're going to do some pretty good content around that Houston game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So excited for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think it's foregone conclusion that the bills would lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even the odds, which we're going to get into suggest that the line is bills minus one and a half right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not super scared about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, Houston's dominated them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about it more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not going to get it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get it done over with Lance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the good part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be done over with no matter what the result is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be done and over with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can move on and then by week eight, nobody's going to care about week one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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