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- 0:05Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling, Drama, Darling. Hello, everybody,
- 0:20it's Thursday. It's drama Darling. Emily Teresas is here. What's up?
- 0:24Emily? Hello? I like your ath leisure where today? Thank you?
- 0:30This is Nike Peace Stop? Wow? Did you? Is it paux
- 0:36Nike? Is it for Nike? I gotta say that was one of Tarmra's
- 0:42shining moments. I mean, this was the most Tamera episode we've ever said.
- 0:46She has passed. She was giving her she was. I mean to
- 0:51like Tamra at her highest and her angriest and her angriest. Listen, this
- 0:58is gonna be a really fun episode. A lot is stacked into it because
- 1:00I basically we're gonna do our recap of Orange County and then I have a
- 1:06new segment that is called After the Drama, and I'm going to be doing
- 1:11like, you know, interviews here and there or whatever Hodgepodge potpoury thing I'm
- 1:15gonna throw in there. But so after this recap will be the first little
- 1:21introduction to After the Drama. And I interviewed Lisa Henderson, who has spearheaded,
- 1:29who has created this Facebook group, it's the Bravocan Facebook group. It's
- 1:33the one that has like nineteen thousand followers and it just has taken off like
- 1:38gangbusters. It it was created years ago and now it is just it's just
- 1:42really taken off. And so I'm gonna do a little deep dive with her
- 1:47about what's going on on that page and all of the fun perks that you
- 1:53get by being in that group, and what they're doing in the meetups that
- 1:56they're having at Bravocon. It's like it's an it's a great hub for people
- 2:00who are Bravo fanatics. It's a real community. It's super fun. So
- 2:04Lisa and I are going to do I'm going to do a quick interview with
- 2:06her at the end of this recap of Orange County. Nice. Yeah,
- 2:12So that's gonna be fun. In the meantime, I have a couple exciting
- 2:14announcements. So first off, as you know, Chef Stewart and I are
- 2:17doing Reality Bites Live, which is a live experience. It's going to be
- 2:23in this home in Los Angeles on September thirtieth. It's going to be an
- 2:28unforgettably tasty and comedic experience where you're going to be able to sip on drinks,
- 2:35enjoy some great recipes from our Cooked Spillit Throw a book, which is
- 2:38an homage to the Housewives. But the big announcement today is that we are
- 2:45so excited to announce fan favorite Emily Simpson will be our surprise guest at our
- 2:52Happy Hour event on September thirtieth. Oh my god, amazing, exact great,
- 2:59I'm so great. That's so awesome. I'm so excited. So you
- 3:02can get your tickets at realitybites Live dot com. You can get all of
- 3:07your information there, the times, the event, everything, so check that
- 3:14out now. The other piece of information is, of course, my tickets
- 3:19are on sale for Cabareami and Las Vegas. This is very exciting because it
- 3:23is hashtag ad presented by twenty one Seeds infused tequila. It has become my
- 3:30favorite tequila. They have these amazing flavors and if you guys like a spicy
- 3:35margarita, you've got to check out their Jlipino cucumber flavor. And you don't
- 3:42have to wait. I want to try. And you talked about it last
- 3:45week and all advertising plugging aside. I've thought about it like every every day
- 3:51because, oh my god, that's so funny. I okay, Well we'll
- 3:54just have to enjoy them together. And if that's not your jam, there's
- 3:59av there's two other flavors. There's Valencia Orange, there's grapefruit, high biscus,
- 4:04and it's These are great tequila's. They will have them at the event
- 4:10at Notoriety, this is the theater that I'm doing it at. You can
- 4:13get tickets at notorietylive dot com. I'm going to link the tickets in my
- 4:17podcast notes. I'm also going to link the reality bites live as well.
- 4:23A lot of links in the podcast notes today, just to make it easier
- 4:26for you guys. But if you want to do a kickoff to bravocn on
- 4:30that Thursday, November two, you can also get tickets to the add on
- 4:34after party. And that is a collaboration with Pink Shade Podcast. So Mary
- 4:40Pain will be there. And so when you're a checkout getting CABARETI tickets,
- 4:44you can when you're in the cart and you're checking out, add that add
- 4:47on and there'll be like swag, there will be photo ops, there will
- 4:53be more. We're going to have a freakin' blast. Tickets are available for
- 4:58Tuesday, November I'm sorry, Thursday, November second and Saturday November fourth,
- 5:02Friday is sold out, so hurry up because tickets are going really really fast.
- 5:09That is such a mouthful for a Thursday, But like, you know
- 5:13what, it's it's all exciting and I can't believe time is flying by.
- 5:15Things are really ramping up in the bravosphere. So, and speaking of Emily,
- 5:23I got some dish to serve up. So why don't we get serving
- 5:26dish right into our dish? Baby? First off, I know Emily been
- 5:30wondering what's going on with Kim Zolciak. What time is it? It's ten
- 5:35twenty Okay, so maybe five minutes ago they were not getting back together,
- 5:41but then five minutes before that they were getting back together. Haters back in
- 5:46the house, haters wearing my ring, haters. So, no, this
- 5:51is gonna take you by surprise, or it probably won't. You know this
- 5:56news already. She's with Mauricia, She's on Dan Seeing with the Stars of
- 6:00Mauricio is going to be her dance instructor. Hey yours, I know how
- 6:04to dance? Haters? What a twist that would be. So No,
- 6:13MTV has announced their celebrity lineup for their upcoming season of the Surreal Life and
- 6:18guess who's on it haters. You're Kim zociek Beerman haters, along with Macy
- 6:25Gray, Chad Hanks, Alie Brooke, Ot Janey, sis Me, Johnny
- 6:30Weir, hose Conseko. This is back, This is back. I didn't
- 6:35watch it before, but I'm so glad that she's got some some cash flow
- 6:40coming in. I really am. Yeah. And isn't that I'm not watched
- 6:45that show. And is that one of those shows where the longer you stay
- 6:47on, the more money you get. I don't know, I've never seen
- 6:53it before, right, Okay, we're saying the same thing. We're saying
- 6:58the same thing. This is on dead Line, by the way. You
- 7:00know, I love it when it's just funny to me. I know that
- 7:03you'll appreciate this to Emily as a writer comedian. You know, the Deadline
- 7:10articles that we used to see coming up were like, you know, scripted
- 7:14film everything. So when it always strikes me as bizarre when I see reality
- 7:18show deadline articles, because I'm like, oh my, you guys are actually
- 7:23taking this seriously. But as we've said, reality TV has you know,
- 7:28practically eclipsed or you know, are now on equal footing with scripted television,
- 7:35and here we are. Yeah weird. I love Johnny Weir too. I
- 7:41love Johnny Weir. I know. Wait, there was somebody else you mentioned,
- 7:45who is Chat Hanks. Okay, there we go. I was gonna
- 7:47say, darlings, if you haven't studied your chat Hanks, that's a fun
- 7:54deep dive on the internet. Reminder, Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks. Yes,
- 8:01and they all have broke Allie. The only was they have one kid
- 8:05together. It's my understanding. Oh and that's Chet. The other kids are
- 8:09from like Colin Hanks is from the marriage prior to Rita. Oh right,
- 8:16I didn't know. And then Tom Hanks has that's my under like I think,
- 8:20and a daughter prior to like that's from his previous marriage. But then
- 8:24we get ched Hanks, and then we get cheded Hanks. Now I have
- 8:30other news. I have other news to report in our dish, and that
- 8:31is that Kyle Richard's daughter Farah has officially split from her fiance Alex Manos.
- 8:39So this was something that we, like a lot of the people online,
- 8:43I want to they faced reality sixteen. They were like, she's not wearing
- 8:48her engagement ring, and I was like, eh, you know, I
- 8:52never judge a hand by its ring, but in this case, it actually
- 8:58is true. I saw this on Real Mom's Bravo and it's reported many places.
- 9:03So yeah, again I go back to that they might not really be
- 9:09the ring, but I think that's the thing that they they actually know something
- 9:13we don't know. So then they hang everything on that detail and they find
- 9:20one picture without the ring, and then they're like, now we can report
- 9:22our super inside gossip because and we can say we just noticed this hand in
- 9:26three pictures. You're so wise. You are wrong or wrong? I don't
- 9:31know. There's a fine line theory. In other dish, Captain Lee,
- 9:41which I did not realize, Okay had a podcast that's called Salty. Know
- 9:48that, so not only does he have this show with Kate Chastain, but
- 9:52he has a podcast called Salty. Is it spelled like like salty tea or
- 10:01is it like with Okay salty with Captain Lee? In my ass, but
- 10:07Bravo Bygas, who I always give shout outs to here posted a clip from
- 10:13his podcast talking about you know, the Lindsay and Carl breakup, Because,
- 10:20as we know, Carl and Captain Lee have a very special relationship and they
- 10:26have bonded over addiction because Captain Lee lost his son to addiction in overdose,
- 10:31and so did Carl's brother, and they have bonded in a beautiful way and
- 10:37we always love hearing about their you know, just their connection things like that.
- 10:43So Captain Lee did speak about the cancelation of their wedding, and he
- 10:48actually kind of cleared up about what was going on with like the room situation,
- 10:54because it was a destination wedding and so basically Captain Lee was saying,
- 10:58like, first of all, the guests got an outstanding rate, so he
- 11:05was like, even if they don't get their fucking ass money back, who
- 11:13cares, you know. I mean, basically he was saying, like,
- 11:16first of all, they got an outstanding rate, so if they don't get
- 11:18their full reimbursement, they're gonna be fine. But he also said that they
- 11:24will get their reimbursement because he got an email from them from Lindsay and Carl
- 11:28saying like you can be reimbursed by the thirteenth and that's that. So he
- 11:35also said, because of the delicate nature of the situation, he's not going
- 11:39to speak on it hashtag Candy hashtag speak on it. Candy's got speak on
- 11:45it at nine. So but I love that he he spoke on it.
- 11:50I love that he spoke on it. And I have the Bravo by Gays
- 11:54to thank for that. Yes, I do too. That's hilarious, especially
- 11:56when he's like doing business. It's like it's like the business side of the
- 12:01cancelation. I like that he's going into the minutia of the hotel rate.
- 12:05Oh the rates, right, I know. I love that. I love
- 12:07that. So the other night, Kristin Cavalari was on Watch What Happens Live,
- 12:13and she did admit to like she had not she's never hooked up with
- 12:16Austin. She spoke about how you know a while ago when they had that
- 12:22viral video of them dancing, Craig and Austin, and she well, she
- 12:26did have a makeout with Craig. So she did cop to that, which
- 12:28we all kind of knew, but she did kind of cop to it finally
- 12:31because she was asked a viewer question. So, and she's still friends with
- 12:35those guys and she loves them all loves them both. Also on Watch What
- 12:41Happens Live, Andy announced that Vicki Gunnbolson is going to get the Wifetime Achievement
- 12:46Award at Robocat. I saw that episode. I must have missed that.
- 12:50That's awesome. Maybe it was on the after show. Oh maybe, I
- 12:54mean, I mean that should be prime time, baby, I'm paying attention.
- 13:01So maybe that's why, Well, you know, we like to basically,
- 13:05you know, multitask, that's what we do. We like to multitask
- 13:09as as we do. I know, God knows I do. I was
- 13:11gonna harken back to the time. I'm sure you and I were both multitasking
- 13:16when we did not know it was Aaron's sister on the phone that called Brenna
- 13:20bitch, Oh my god, and we thought it was Abe the Babe,
- 13:24so went on Abe like really like we probably Rosanna and Dana to that.
- 13:31I mean, and you would have thought there were so many Abe the Babe
- 13:35stands because they can't. They both slid into our da I mean, they
- 13:37all slid into our dms taking up for Abe. No no, no,
- 13:41Abe is fine. Like if it was some anybody else, they really wouldn't
- 13:45have cared. I think people would have been like, who cares. I'm
- 13:46not going to correct them on this, but people were like, no,
- 13:50don't give abe a bad name. Yeah no, that was That was definitely.
- 13:54I've definitely had a couple of times where I'm like, oh, I
- 14:00actually feel the opposite or like, right, I didn't watch that fully and
- 14:05I had a very strong take that I don't agree with anymore. So be
- 14:13ready for that, darlings. Yes, darlings, my about face because I
- 14:18wasn't paying attention. Yeah no kidding, Listen, I am guilty of it
- 14:24too, and I'm not gonna make any apologies for it, and neither real
- 14:28Tamera this episode. Let's talk about the Tamera episode. Let's get into Orange
- 14:31County, Babadah to Orange County. There in Mexico, Plia del Carmen,
- 14:39and we're still We're at dinner and Shannon is basically in her This is also
- 14:46confusing to me because I still, honestly I didn't have like the brain power
- 14:50to think about it again about like who is ago of talking about who?
- 14:56At Bravo Khan, you know, because there was so much confusion last week.
- 15:00Well, this is the first time that they've opened an episode ever where
- 15:03with their mid fight, and they don't give us about forty five seconds of
- 15:07where we were the last episode, I know, and they just just it
- 15:11annoys me when I'm binging it right when I just watch it fresh, I'm
- 15:16like, now, who are these people at this time? Who's the blonde
- 15:22haired one that likes to to likes tequila? And who's the dark haired one
- 15:28called that? Somebody says enough lepus. Yeah, But Shannon and her confessionals
- 15:31like, I didn't really see Heather at Bravo Khana. I think their goal
- 15:35is to meddle in my relationships, and Heather is just she goes to the
- 15:39bathroom and she's past, past, passed, and TAM's like he's in past.
- 15:41She's like, I'm passed. And Heather's there's as pissed as she can
- 15:46be with fifty five million dollars because she gets over it real fast. I
- 15:50think, roll fast, roll fast, she gets over it real fast.
- 15:54A yeah, because I have to say that when it almost felt like we
- 16:07missed a whole scene there where she didn't collect herself and all that, she
- 16:11just came right back in. Now. See now you can I can hear
- 16:15my Maryland accent coming through every time. Now, I don't want you to
- 16:19ever curb it. Let it rip. I will say it's an eastern short.
- 16:26It's a very northern eastern uh Maryland accent. I'll put it because because
- 16:33you get down south, it doesn't really it doesn't really fly. But anyway,
- 16:36back too Anyway, anyway, Heather and tam Or talk and Heather's like,
- 16:41they don't like me, and I don't care and I'm holding a different
- 16:44standard and I can't say anything or do anything right. Let's go back to
- 16:47the table. I have gifts. So she does give out gifts and it's
- 16:53this great basket full of goodies and it's very awkward and it's very funny.
- 16:59And Emily's like, I don't want the gift. I just want it to
- 17:03be easier to be friends with her. And Gina's like, this is the
- 17:06most uncomfortable gift I've ever seen. And then Shannon's like, can I have
- 17:11a skinny emparcarated to go. But before that, when Heather and Tamor away
- 17:18from the table, Shannon did have this moment where she was like basically setting
- 17:22the record straight about John and she was like, it's normal relationship stuff.
- 17:29So she says like that's basically it. In the beginning, they spent every
- 17:33day together. And now it's like he says, I gotta go, and
- 17:37she says, he's an avoid I'm a communicator and he just basically walks He
- 17:41always walks out instead of talking about it. And that's essentially what she's saying,
- 17:45are the biggest issues in their relationship, right, And then it kind
- 17:49of pivots into Tamra being like, well, I have receipts from Ryan.
- 17:56It's like who will will what? Oh? From Ryan? Oh? That
- 18:02does she say that about that dinner? At that dinner? Yeah, it's
- 18:06it's right before Tamra walks out to Heather. I guess she says something about
- 18:11has she She basically says that she knows that Ryan cheated on her, she
- 18:18has the text from the girl or something like that. Oh I didn't I
- 18:22did not hear that, or maybe it was in the peacock version, so
- 18:26I didn't know she tipped her hat to it. So there was some foreshadow
- 18:29we at the beginning of the episode, and then we obviously revisit that later,
- 18:33which yeah, cannot wait to get to. But alas, we go
- 18:38to breakfast in the morning and Emily apologizes to Heather for being an asshole,
- 18:42but and then Heather's like, there's a pattern here, and then we do
- 18:47see this montage of Emily like coming after her in like every episode and then
- 18:55apologizing. Yeah, and you know, like the apology she gave Heather is
- 19:00that morning was the classic Housewives I'm sorry if you felt that way apology.
- 19:07And of all the Housewives, the one that always takes accountability, I feel
- 19:14is Heather. And so it drives me nuts that, Like I get that
- 19:17Emily gets in a corner and apologizes, but I'm like, as a viewer,
- 19:22all we are seeing, and it might be edited this way, is
- 19:26Heather apologizing the season. So I don't know what else they want from her.
- 19:30Well, I think that the back and forth between Heather and Emily,
- 19:37I think needs to be there between them. I don't like that it's like
- 19:42the whole group coming after Heather. But I feel like in a way,
- 19:48Emily kind of calling out Heather for certain things makes it a little more real
- 19:55and she helps Heather to level out because the way that Emily is it with
- 20:00her, which kind of comes with a little bit of a comedic angle and
- 20:04kind of a throwaway delivery where it's like I'm just saying this, we can
- 20:08get past it. But like, you know, you always do this or
- 20:11you always do that. But Heather is, like you said, always coming
- 20:15forward and being like Okay, I see that and I apologize, or I
- 20:19see that and I agree, let's move forward. But that montage was very
- 20:25damning and it just looked like Emily was just stern it up, stern it
- 20:27up. And then of course in the confessional she said all I can do
- 20:32is say I'm sorry, and I'll probably do it again. And I'm like,
- 20:34oh my god. This is at least she's honest about being a housewife,
- 20:41because that's what they do. But I am concerned, right, I
- 20:45do think that Gina is, like legit, the only actual friend that had
- 20:52like has Heather's back in that group, and even Gena's kind of one foot
- 20:55out the door. But like, yeah, I just think I mean,
- 20:59we've talked about this for I think Heather reads is cold. She's distant,
- 21:03and at the end of the day, I don't know if she's as they
- 21:07say, there to make friends. But she's doing the best she can,
- 21:11right, I mean, she makes for like, if she wasn't, like
- 21:15we said this last week, if she wasn't on the show, you know
- 21:18what would be happening, and we do have that Jen and Tamra stuff,
- 21:21and we do have the John and Shannon stuff. So it is amazing how
- 21:26there's a lot of stuff going on in OC right now. I mean it's
- 21:30it's a great season. I mean they are definitely delivering it. They go
- 21:34on vespas and this was very funny. Obviously Heather hated it. Shannon was
- 21:41like, I didn't touch the red button, loving it, and this was
- 21:45fun that they did a lot of activities. Well, Gina's call out of
- 21:48Shannon being Jennifer Coolidge from White Lotus was like, so on the money,
- 21:55well the side by side, because I wouldn't have gotten it because I don't
- 21:57I haven't watched White Lotus, but it looked on point. Oh it was
- 22:03so great. And also just that character being like now I'm just thinking of
- 22:10that character and Shannon as the same. But and Bravo had to get that
- 22:17picture from they had to get paid for that picture. Get right to that
- 22:21picture of Jennifer Coolidge from White Lotus. Good but it was worth it,
- 22:23Yeah, it was worth it. It was they just let them use it
- 22:29as a yeah, as an honorary because they they it's it's an honor to
- 22:33be compared both ways. For Jennifer to be compared to Shannon, and Shannon
- 22:37to be compared to Jennifer. I mean, let's we'll hear it. I
- 22:40love Shannon's spirit of adventure in these moments. I just think that she is
- 22:45so fun to watch. She really is one of the best. I mean,
- 22:49I just I absolutely love it. The zip line into that water,
- 22:53Emily, that was amazing to watch her just being like whoa. And then
- 23:00I think Tarmor was right that she got the wind knocked out of her and
- 23:03then she was like, your nose is bleeding, like the I think Emily
- 23:07went through something and didn't like couldn't. She was definitely like kind of shaken
- 23:14when she got out, like she was just like something happened. She went
- 23:18into another dimension and then came out and was like, I just I was
- 23:22abducted by aliens, talked to by aliens, and then her nose bleed.
- 23:30Yeah, something something fishy happened and it wasn't It was out of this world,
- 23:36you know, it was definitely something that wasn't of this world, if
- 23:40you will. Yeah, I think it was very shocking, and then it
- 23:42kind of went to like Gina's whole thing too about like being afraid in the
- 23:48water and I don't have that. But like I I was like, that's
- 23:52very real for Gina. Good for her that she's jumping right on in.
- 23:56That's very real. I loved that bag when she was on like the jet
- 24:02ski with the instructor and she was like, I'm not trying to be a
- 24:06baby, and then she was crying and the instructor just shoves like a starfish
- 24:08in her face to help her like a child. You know, this enormous
- 24:14starf It's like, you take this sea creature and make yourself felt starfish.
- 24:21The stoppage isn't gonna help me. It's queeving me out. We're gonna starfish
- 24:26in her face. Oh god, that was so funny. He's like,
- 24:29here, I'm just trying to do my job. This is this is an
- 24:33excursion. Here take the starfish. Yeah. Her jumping in the water was
- 24:37something else. And that is a high height, yeah, and I thought,
- 24:41oh, she should just jump in lower and I was like, oh,
- 24:45that's the lowest option, and she's but I would have I would have
- 24:51totally been all about that excursion. I loved that the swim Hole one.
- 24:56But I think me too, I guess like both. When you see some
- 25:00yeah, when you see something built up like that, like they you know
- 25:04plenty of people, you can go there and be like, this is a
- 25:07well constructed unit that many people have jumped off of before, and I will
- 25:12also be okay when I jump off of it. That's what I mean.
- 25:15It seemed crazy, but actually as soon as Emily jumped, I was like,
- 25:18well I wouldn't. I don't think I would. Actually after that reaction,
- 25:22well Heather was like nope, no negativo, nope, thank you.
- 25:30But also like when I look at zip lines, kind of freak me out
- 25:33because you hear about the stories and now things go wrong. But a zip
- 25:37line into water doesn't bother me as much because you can you know you're falling
- 25:42if you're gonna fall in fallen water, and you're deliberately going to fall in
- 25:45water, and you should be okay. Yes, I agree, Yeah,
- 25:49I love the zip line. I loved Tim Robbins. I know it.
- 25:56I was just like, I wonder who's going to bring it up first?
- 25:59Go ahead, you're going, and I think you should leave. Season two.
- 26:03Tim is on like a Bachelor style show. But all he wants to
- 26:08do is zipline in the water in the cool pool on the set, and
- 26:11he just keeps ziplining and ziplining and zip flinny. He doesn't stop. He
- 26:17doesn't go on any dates. He just wants the zipline. He want to
- 26:19go on any dates. And then doesn't he get kicked off the show?
- 26:23Oh wait no yeah, She's like, you know you have to leave,
- 26:26and he's like, please, please let me. I just want to zipline.
- 26:33Now. If you haven't watched that, it's on Netflix and my bretteger
- 26:37Brets episode was in it. Episode I think it's episode three, season two.
- 26:44It's great and you can catch my darlin there. So now we get
- 26:51this moment where Tamra where they're like getting ready and Tarma drags Jen for her
- 26:55fake designer brands for now Fundy Fuci and then in Tamra's confessional she says that
- 27:02Jen was a yoga mom and then now she's dripped in fake designer clothes and
- 27:06she wants people to think that she has all this money and she doesn't buy
- 27:08into that. So this is when I really do take a harder turn against
- 27:15Jen, because this does say a lot about her character and a lot about
- 27:23who she's becoming and the process of leaving, you know, one marriage and
- 27:29then getting into this relationship with this guy, and how she's now how she's
- 27:33presenting herself, and it is not a good look bybe it is not a
- 27:37good look at all. Well, in fairness to Jen, I would like
- 27:41to know when the brand clothing like that started, because if it came about
- 27:48because of the show, then I kind of get where she thinks that she
- 27:52has to dress in this very gaudy, aspirational way because that's what the show
- 27:57is. So I was kind of curious about that. But that's not real.
- 28:02That's not real. That's a lie. And I and like, you
- 28:04know, at least Monica on Salt Lake City was like I have bought a
- 28:08Louis Vauton back because I wanted to fit in, and at least hers is
- 28:12real, like and she's honest about it. But I don't like thisting yourself.
- 28:18What do you mean warn me? You should have warned me that you
- 28:22were going to use an anomaly. You should have won me. I didn't
- 28:26know you were gonna do it. Now I'm offended. Okay, yeah,
- 28:30I agree with you, but if you dare. Look, I'm I am
- 28:34not necessarily opposed to wearing a fake designer but brand, but don't do it
- 28:41on television around people who know designer brands. You're not gonna get away with
- 28:47it, my arm. Here's what I wonder. I don't think Jen knows.
- 28:52I think that she's either Ryan Gifts or hired. They hired someone to
- 29:02dress her for things, and she doesn't know. Okay, okay, these
- 29:07are good points, but I don't like it. I know, you know
- 29:12you're wrong. You love it, you like it. I'm so passed about
- 29:18it, MLA. It paints the picture that she is not Row and that
- 29:23she is like, you know, trying to be some mats, the picture
- 29:37that I can't trust her. And it also makes me think like she's just
- 29:41like Ryan, like they just blend together. It's perfect, you know,
- 29:45she's I don't like it. I don't like it. I think we have
- 29:48to remember that Jen is a nat little baby. She's a little like she's
- 29:56been in a kind of lock and keys situation, Like she just mentally is
- 30:03maturing in a different way. She's in a different place mentally, I think
- 30:07than everybody else. It's like she just woke up and it's not nineteen ninety
- 30:11eight and she's having a crash course in culture and Ryan is her professor,
- 30:22and so like she's doing pretty good for that. But I mean, I
- 30:33think you explained it perfectly, and for you to be giving any credit is
- 30:37very gracious of you. But I think it's a disaster. I think it's
- 30:41Oh, it's still a disaster. I see, the brands need to be
- 30:47real if you are presenting yourself. This is what Guess who also had a
- 30:51bunch of fake designer handbags? Jen Shaw? Guess where she is. I'm
- 30:56just saying like it's a slippery slope, but mostly, you know, fake
- 31:00designer, and you know what, most of our friends are gonna go to
- 31:03jail, and so guess what it's on. Do I have a fake Do
- 31:08I have a fake designer Louis Vatan bag that someone gifted me? Yes,
- 31:15I do. Calling the police, but I didn't buy it myself. And
- 31:18also I wear it around fucking Santa Clarita. Nobody gives a shit up here,
- 31:23whether it's real or not. But I'll tell you what I am not
- 31:26gonna do. What I'm not gonna do, what you're not gonna do is
- 31:32You're not gonna show up on the Real Housewives of Orange County, of Salt
- 31:37Lake, of Atlanta with fake brands. We don't like it. I like
- 31:44it. I like it. I love this conversation so much. But now
- 31:52I need to move on from it because guess what. Well, first of
- 31:55all, they go to a water park, they go to a spa,
- 31:57and they walk over this. This, this vacation is lit. I love
- 32:02this vacation. This is the best vacation. And then we get a Vicky
- 32:08surprise. Would you how much would you pay to be on a vacation in
- 32:13Mexico and have an open your door and have Vicky go boooooo. That's actually
- 32:20a great business for her. She should do that. I would do a
- 32:22lot of money for that. No, Linda won't let me. Linda will
- 32:24not let me buy office manage it. I have to stay at work.
- 32:28She does let me do anything. I can't go on and do surprises in
- 32:31Mexico for buddy, and let's Linda a prison. Oh but I agree.
- 32:40If you want a girl, if you're in a girls trip in Mexico,
- 32:45you all pitch in like five thousand dollars and Vicky shows up for the day.
- 32:52Five k easy. I mean that's a little I'd probably invite more people.
- 32:58Split that up a little bit. Oh yeah, ten ten people.
- 33:00Well, for us, it would be we'd need a dozen out of work
- 33:07actors and writers, right, I do well. I got a little teary
- 33:15when she was the surprise because it was so great and it felt was so
- 33:19with Tamar and Shannon. Yes, but I'll tell you who wouldn't spend five
- 33:23thousand dollars for Vicky surprise? And that was everyone else, the girls.
- 33:29Yes, Oh my god. When they revealed her at that dinner, Oh
- 33:32my god. Oh hello, miss Scumblson. Hi. I mean you would
- 33:37have thought Heather was talking about her five fifty five million dollars sale again correct
- 33:43gets curric get. They basically were like, oh, hang on just a
- 33:46second, Picky, let me finish up this conversation. Yeah. Like it
- 33:52was just like they couldn't. I mean, oh, it was just like
- 33:55this moment is that Joe. Nobody cares. It's Joe fucking gun Bulson.
- 34:04Okay, real, ladies at the dinner table, please stand up. Dare
- 34:09you proper greeting? I mean, were you born in a barn? Were
- 34:17you born in the Barn in Newport, in Fairness to Emily and Gina.
- 34:24Here we go in fairness. Hi, welcome to in fairness. Uh,
- 34:32brought to Vicky has said some shit and she's coming for them, and she's
- 34:37coming for their spot on the show, so they don't want her there.
- 34:43Oh my god. That was so funny when Jen said, well, I
- 34:46know you haven't really, you know, you haven't been here, and she's
- 34:49like, oh, I know. I don't thank you for putting it out.
- 34:52I know. Oh my god, she said I was fired. She
- 34:57did say yes, I fired, we like, and I was like,
- 35:01oh god, is this episode going to turn into that, Like this will
- 35:05be interesting. Meanwhile, she wasn't fired. I just want to say this,
- 35:09Vicky, you just weren't given a new contract being fired, Linda Telbey,
- 35:16I was fired, and whatever Lynda says is right. I just want
- 35:21to make sure people understand because that happens a lot when contracts aren't renewed in
- 35:27our world. It's like, no, I've seen people get fired off shows.
- 35:30That's a lot different. That's true, I suppose. And also it's
- 35:35the old They're going in another direction, yeah yeah, yeah, away from
- 35:40me, which means I'm fired. I mean, I'm sure you know.
- 35:45Yeah, it feels the same. I mean I've certainly had a contract not
- 35:47renewed. It sucks, but well, maybe you should have Linda negotiated for
- 35:52you next time. Sorry, that's had you and order more paper clips.
- 35:57She's an office manager, right, she does it probably a lot more than
- 36:00just right. She's getting into some stuff. Yes, I did get I
- 36:07also was really embracing that entrance and that Shannon was like, I could cry.
- 36:13Oh wait, that was Vicky. Shannon was like, I could cry.
- 36:16And then the trace a megas are back together. They all put on
- 36:20pink, they do shots and choreography, choreography, great show, go and
- 36:24see it. It's just fun. It's just stupid fun show. Yeah,
- 36:30yes, I do want to see that. I'll go back with you.
- 36:34So then they have dinner, they go see Circa so lat this is like
- 36:37the greatest trip. Yeah. I was wondering did they watch that entire show?
- 36:42This is a long show and alone else in the audience. Yeah,
- 36:46it's a lot of work for that cast. Yeah. I was like,
- 36:50I hope they're filming it or getting something out of it so that they could,
- 36:52you know, you know, take advantage of it. Then they do
- 36:58truth or Dare and Vicky basically says to Jen, you and I love a
- 37:04bad We loved it. I loved a bad. You love a bad that
- 37:06may not be the right person of for us that I wish I do,
- 37:08uh what I do out And then they're like, are you talking about Ryan?
- 37:12She's like, it's Ryan, I know. And then Emily being like,
- 37:20I think she's issuing a warning. Is there a storm coming? It's
- 37:25Emily's like weather report. I think she's issuing a warning. Warnings coming.
- 37:31God, it's so funny. It was great. I mean again, Vicky
- 37:37came like guns blazing, so gun Bison's blazing. Oh, we forgot what
- 37:47I wanted to tell you. I forgot to tell you. Back at circ
- 37:52there was a never before seen Seene and Taylor got a line in the show
- 37:58get Out. Yeah, yeah, one line, and that's it's dry Ice.
- 38:07Are you serious? That was her life? I think she has a
- 38:09little bit more later in the episode, but I was like, that's okay,
- 38:13that's so Taylor. That's the first time we've heard from Taylor this entire
- 38:16time. Yeah, yeah, I was. She said that about the show
- 38:22It's dry Ice. No, she said when they brought out the drinks,
- 38:25did you see that? Maybe that was yeah, I didn't see that part.
- 38:30So they brought out one line. Yeah, yeah, exactly they brought
- 38:35out and Tamor I was like, I don't want to drink this. It's
- 38:38it's boiling steam. And then Taylor, of course, drum moral it's dry
- 38:45ice, and then dry ice girls. Then no, no girls, just
- 38:52no girls, just dry ice. Just identify the drink and and move on.
- 38:58And that's it. I mean three words. I was like at the
- 39:01end of my notes and I'm like, wait, did Taylor ever say anything
- 39:08she there's a little bit in the she said something. Oh yeah she did.
- 39:15She's the one that talk up gals about Shannon's body issues. Oh right,
- 39:22and she was so like sensitive and just so sweet, and she was
- 39:27like I'm gonna cry girls. Okay, so sir, disilay and then truth
- 39:34or dare and then okay, wait. Then we get to the morning and
- 39:37Shannon, and this is one where we get to this part where Taylor has
- 39:42her line about saying that Shannon doesn't feel good about her body. She had
- 39:45a hard night because she doesn't want to get into a bathing suit. Those
- 39:50those muscle body dad bod muscle body bathing suits which were very funny, and
- 39:53I would like, I think that's such This trip from beginning to end,
- 39:58I thought was just such a lighthearted fun girls trem and I would wear that
- 40:00suit for fun? Would you no? But go on all right? Well?
- 40:07In fairness with Emily Jesis. In fairness, they all look great,
- 40:13and I'm happy for them. I would not Why wouldn't you wear it?
- 40:19I mean I would wear a cover up, but that I would get in
- 40:22the water and do some water aerobics wabs. How fun is that? This
- 40:27trip is my favorite? It's so easy breezycause they're tables. Oh god,
- 40:37yes, I well, yes, I agree. More close ups of the
- 40:39food? Now, which is worse? Dolphin trainer or snuffle up a gus?
- 40:45Oh, snuffle up a gus? Absolutely? And I am so glad
- 40:51that Emily took the time to explain to Heather when I called you a dolphin
- 40:57trainer, it was a joke. Ha ha ha. And do you see
- 41:00how you when you called me snuffle up against I snuffle upagus? I laughed,
- 41:06ha ha ha. It's the same that Ah and Heather was like,
- 41:10fair point, Yeah, but also I don't know if Heather did get it,
- 41:15but like, I can't imagine calling even my word as much as I
- 41:19love snuffle up a gust right by the way he does talk. Somebody said
- 41:23he doesn't even talking. They did say that, but he's like, he's
- 41:29like the sweetest I know, because he's he's Big Bird's imaginary friend. Let's
- 41:35make it clear who he is. And he's on Sesame Street or right or
- 41:38used to be. But he's a large elephant looking creature. And when Heather
- 41:45made the point that her hair because she was talking about her hair, Emily
- 41:47was talking about her hair and she was like, I need to fix this,
- 41:52and Heather said, you look like snuffle up agus. Well you really
- 41:54can't isolate you know, the whole look of snuffle upagus and hair. You
- 42:00know what I'm saying, Because yeah, so I could see the package of
- 42:02it not being a very nice comment, but I don't think Heather meant it
- 42:07in a negative way, but it was right, Yeah, you can't,
- 42:12yeah, yeah, yeah, Heather. Heather couldn't steer that in any houseboat
- 42:20the calm, calm waters when they were on that houseboat in Mexico, and
- 42:23Heather said you know what, Emily, I'm glad you brought that up,
- 42:28because the only thing that this trip was missing was a first houseboat boat.
- 42:31Yeah, I agree, get on a houseboat if you want us to continue
- 42:36to watching, I need one in every episode, or the idea of one,
- 42:39or the idea of one. Now Here, we are at the grand
- 42:44finale lunch where Gen versus camera. Tarmra just lets it all out and Jen
- 42:51says that she bring okay, so she they're bringing up this other woman,
- 42:54the woman that allegedly had like was with Ryan during their break, but Tarama
- 43:04is saying, it wasn't during your break. He's slipping with her while you're
- 43:07together. He sent me their text messages. Well you're at a concert in
- 43:09Santiago, naked in your bed, and Jen finishes the sentence saying I know
- 43:15about it. I've seen it. And Gina's like, man, why are
- 43:20you with him? And Jen's like, well, what do you want for
- 43:24me, Tamra, and Tarama's like, I don't want you to get hurt,
- 43:29and Jen says, so you're busying yourself with my pain and she's like,
- 43:31you don't show any immotion ever, and then she accuses her of ruining
- 43:37her entire family, and you left for a player. You're not the only
- 43:42person he fucked, am I jum? Jen says, how dare you?
- 43:45And then Emily's like, my mother in law even knows he's a player.
- 43:51And then Gina's like, well she knows he's up playing, but she still
- 43:55wants to be with him. Wow. Wow, And Vicky's right like sometimes
- 44:04you have to figure that out on your own. So I think that's what
- 44:07she's doing because like everyone that watched, I don't think there's one person watching
- 44:13Housewives that's like, Rian's pretty cool. I'm rooting for them, like everybody
- 44:19from what we have been presented with is like, oh girl, okay,
- 44:24you're just gonna do this. But with Tamra saying you're quiet, you're quiet,
- 44:29you have no emotion and you don't speak to it. So this is
- 44:31where I have to say, I'm like Jen, she is really quiet.
- 44:38She's not being upfront about it. She's kind of playing like she doesn't know
- 44:43what happened, or she's skating over everything, over everything, saying that they
- 44:49are on a break, when now she's admitting they weren't really on a break
- 44:52in a sense. So Jen's covering up for Ryan because she doesn't want to
- 44:57look bad again. I think Jen convinced them herself because of whatever Ryan twisted
- 45:04that they were on a break, And I don't think Jen realized they were
- 45:07on a break at the time, but now she'll be like, yeah,
- 45:10well we were. He did say he was that they go to the store,
- 45:15so I guess we were on a break. But I think Tama is
- 45:17kind of like coaching in a way. I think she's kind of like,
- 45:22if you want to stay on the show, right right, you better can't.
- 45:27You can't just be a gray rock here. You have to like admit
- 45:30or be be like open and tell us what's happening. Well, I agree
- 45:37with Tamra. I mean yeah, because Tama is saying, like I mean
- 45:40when she said, like in one of her confessionals, that this gal Alex
- 45:46Alex, and now Jen's saying that Tamra is accusing Tamra of reaching out to
- 45:52Alex first, and Tara's like, no, she reached out to me because
- 45:55she had a vendetta against Ryan at this point, because they got into a
- 46:00fight after Nobu, and she sent Tamara all of the text messages from when
- 46:06they were just talking and I was like, I was like, oh damn,
- 46:10so there's a lot of camera thing. It was a year, that's
- 46:15what she said. This was going on while you were together, not when
- 46:17you were on your break this right year. Okay, I didn't know it
- 46:21was a full year. That is so bad. So here's the thing.
- 46:24Jen's covering all that up. It's out there. Tamra has the receipts and
- 46:29basically Tarma's like, if you don't say it, I will, And this
- 46:31is how we play. I think Jen maybe knows about some of it.
- 46:36I bet she doesn't know about all of it. I bet we have it.
- 46:39Like if Jen actually knew, like what the backdrops of I guarantee you
- 46:46Ryan has, like backdrops of their house or is always talking against a white
- 46:52wall when they face time, like I you know what I mean? Like
- 46:54Ryan, he's using a green screen and a picture of his house, and
- 47:00mind that green screen is an orgy for Miles, Like I just don't think
- 47:05Jen gets what she's in. And I think that there's regrets and I think
- 47:10she's just like, minute by minute, I'm going to get through this day
- 47:15and it's we had so much fun. I think that's what she's doing I
- 47:19think you're right, and she's it's it's like watching a slow motion car crash.
- 47:25Yeah, because we all we all have had someone close to us or
- 47:34to us or been that person that has seen it happening, and we all
- 47:38act and and it was great to have Vicky there because she was like the
- 47:44last one of the you know, big last times that we saw something like
- 47:46this where it's like, are you kidding me right now? You're believing this?
- 47:51Yeah? Yeah, I like the tamera was like I did this with
- 47:53Vicky too, you know. I mean, so I appreciate it. What
- 47:58a great fun It's an amazing episode. And by the way, it's it
- 48:02is impossible to be that close friend in that situation when you're like, he's
- 48:09awful that and no one wants to hear it. Even if it's like you're
- 48:15you're trying to explain it to your best friend, They're like, yeah,
- 48:17you don't know, I know you don't, right. Yeah. Vicky was
- 48:22trying to get to find out for yourself, and it was nice that Shannon,
- 48:25you know, was kind of had her back and she's like, this
- 48:29is very hurtful, and I mean it was a good balance of somebody really
- 48:31trying to expose the truth for what it is and call out a housewife for
- 48:35doing things that they should be more honest about. Quite frankly, considering that
- 48:38this is a lot of the drama, but also a nice balance of people
- 48:42having her back. So that being said, what a fun episode, MS
- 48:47And that wraps up our Orange County recap. But now we're gonna I'm gonna
- 48:53get right into After the Drama with my my interview with Lisa Henderson. So
- 49:00you guys, if you're not following me on Patreon, please subscribe. It's
- 49:05patreon dot com. Back slash Drama Darling. Okay, Bye Emily, Bye
- 49:09Bye Drama Darling. Okay, Darlings, and welcome back to the special segment
- 49:20of Drama Darling After the Drama. Okay, I just made that up on
- 49:24the spot. I think I like it. After the Drama joining me,
- 49:28I have a very special guest on this After the Drama episode. It's Lisa
- 49:32Henderson from the Bravo con Facebook group. What's up, Lisa? Thank you
- 49:39for welcoming me. What's up is I'm in I'm Anapausa Melton right now.
- 49:45Oh my gosh, tell me about it. What's up? I've had a
- 49:49horrible last month of moving, and so I'm in a hotel right now,
- 49:52and so I don't look my best, but I think you look adorable.
- 49:57And I love the lavender. I love the purple. That's my color.
- 50:00That's my color. Loves purple. It it's very royal. I'm so excited
- 50:07you're here, and I'm so happy that we connected. Thank you for reaching
- 50:12out to me. So we're going to talk a little bit about Bravo Con
- 50:15and Lisa's incredible freaking Facebook page that has taken the Bravo fan world by storm.
- 50:25There's really nothing like it. You know, We've seen tons of Instagram
- 50:30accounts and we love them that we you know, I love all my Instagram
- 50:34Bravo fan accounts, and I'm really not a part of any Facebook groups because
- 50:38I'm just never on Facebook. But I do love a Facebook group like I
- 50:43am part of a lot of like I'll scroll in a lot of informational Facebook
- 50:46groups and they're just incredible. And I've been lucky enough to connect with Lisa
- 50:52because you found out about my cabaret that I'm going to be doing during the
- 50:55Bravo Con weekend, and you were so kind to reach out and say hey,
- 51:00I heard through the grapevine, meaning your Facebook page, that you're looking
- 51:05for a theater in Vegas. And you're like, maybe I can help,
- 51:08maybe we can collab, like let's talk. So cut to you know,
- 51:13a couple months later, I was like, Lisa, I got my theater,
- 51:17I got my show, the tickets are up, let's talk. So
- 51:22anyway, and then I got to join your group and Mary Payne, who's
- 51:27from Pink Shade podcast, actually inviting me to join your group because she's been
- 51:31on it and and so like I've just been like kind of scrolling through and
- 51:36like, this is such an incredible group. You have nineteen thousand members very
- 51:43close to twenty k. It was just round it up, dudeity kay,
- 51:47So this is amazing. So what like this is such an incredible thing,
- 51:52and I want to talk to you. We'll get more into the details of
- 51:55like what you're up to during Bravo Con and like what you have going on.
- 51:59But if you are a Bravo fanatic, which I'm sure if you are,
- 52:02you're listening to this podcast and you got to join over to this face
- 52:07this Facebook group of Bravo Con. It's Bravo Con is it Bravo Con twenty
- 52:12twenty three or just Bravo kan No, So just to be clear, let's
- 52:16be clear. My group is the original Bravo Khan originated in me of twenty
- 52:24nineteen. What a year, what a time. Well, you know what
- 52:31happened is they announced Bravo Con and I was like, I was in this
- 52:36Facebook group with a bunch of the girls, and I was like, let's
- 52:37make a Facebook group to have a meetup so we could only talk about that.
- 52:42So it literally was like twenty of us and I kid you not,
- 52:45it's sat dormant for a little bit and we talked to our little list at
- 52:49hotels and stuff like that. And then you know how girls are, we
- 52:52all got in fights and we all broke of course, I mean drama,
- 52:59you know, in real life. It was like real life Facebook housewives drama.
- 53:02So we all broke up. And then it's at empty until I started
- 53:07noticing people were joining, and I'm like, well, I guess there's people
- 53:09that are looking on Facebook because I was the only one. And then through
- 53:14like June and July, I started picking up a few members and I remember
- 53:16there was like one hundred and fifty people and like mid July, and I
- 53:22was like, those are all people that just want to go. So we
- 53:24kept the steam going and next thing, I know, when tickets came out,
- 53:28the group was insane. Well this was insane back then. I got
- 53:34a few hundred people, so I thought that was crazy, you know.
- 53:36Yeah, and then it got too busy for me. So I added Susie,
- 53:39my administrator, and she was actually going and I couldn't even go,
- 53:45no, because I'm disabled. So I had a lot of issues with I
- 53:50wouldn't be able to get around and the travel and everything. And I mean
- 53:54a convention center, that's a lot. Yeah. Well that was at the
- 53:59first year where there was three different venues, So you are the first year
- 54:02okay, No, No, I wasn't because I had a pig, So
- 54:07you weren't at the first year. Okay, got it all right. I
- 54:10ran the control center from the whole weekend and let me just tell you that
- 54:15this group only had like two thousand people then, okay, and it was
- 54:19wild. We I know, on Instagram, you guys have your analytics,
- 54:22you know, but for us, in one weekend with like two thousand people,
- 54:27if that, we had one hundred and twenty thousand reactions and all the
- 54:30stats and everything, which was incredibly insane. Okay, wow, Yeah,
- 54:36so that group went nuts and after that, after the event, people start
- 54:38joining it because they want to see pictures and then and talk about it.
- 54:43Yeah, we had a few celebs come in, and you know, it
- 54:45was kind of like a secret. Oh yeah, that's fun. Yeah,
- 54:50it was kind of fun. And then we got some like Bravo Labs or
- 54:53separate celebs. I would call probably like baby Bravo Labs, just people that
- 55:00weren't famous but could be like, you know, just people are in the
- 55:04scene of Bravo maybe. Okay, got I love that they're called I love
- 55:08the term baby Bravo lebs. Yeah, that's what I call my baby.
- 55:14I love you baby gorgeous, Baby Bravo Labs. They're so baby gorgeous.
- 55:19Okay, sorry, go on, that's okay. Does baby Gorgeous the girl
- 55:22from Salt Lake City? Yeah, Lisa, Yeah, I'm Lisa too,
- 55:27But I call them baby Bravo loves. Just people that are kind of in
- 55:30the scene, like I would call like you you were a baby Bravo Lab
- 55:32and a few other instagrammers and I love you guys. Am. Anyway,
- 55:39we just kind of start getting some hype going, and then through the next
- 55:44year we were excited for the next one. But that was twenty twenty,
- 55:46right, so I've got some action, but then we had to cancel and
- 55:52that was a horrible year. Yeah. Then twenty twenty one we were restoked,
- 55:55more people joined, and then canceled again. So then so actually we
- 56:01were dormant for two plus some years, and then finally in twenty twenty two,
- 56:06in April, it was official they were going to do it, and
- 56:09I was going this time, and I could rent a scooter at Javitt,
- 56:13So I was all pumped and great, and I had a huge meetup planned
- 56:16and we had over three hundred people that showed up at the hotel bar.
- 56:22Are you kidding me? Oh yeah, what hotel are you? Where you
- 56:25at in New York? Where the meetup was three hundred people at their hotel
- 56:29bar? Well, it was three hundred people just through the night. That's
- 56:32what we kind of figured. It was kind of rotating through, got it.
- 56:36Yeah. I also had group meet up hotel rates, which I managed
- 56:39all that. I managed all the meetup stuff. It was nuts. So
- 56:44so you you said, oh my gosh, Lisa, you secured hotels for
- 56:51a special rate for your Facebook groups. Your Facebook group. Yeah, and
- 56:57the meetup. We had two meetups, and let me just tell you how
- 57:00fun it was having everybody at the hotel from the group. It was like
- 57:04crazy. Everybody was from Bravo there the whole weekend. It was so much
- 57:07fun. No one was really alone either. Yeah. And then the bar
- 57:10had the hotel had a restaurant in the basement too, so we could always
- 57:15go eat and drink whenever we wanted. It was very cool. Yeah,
- 57:19it's amazing thing. Oh my god. So at that point the group only
- 57:23had I think Susie and I. We announced on Bravo Con Day one we
- 57:29had seven thousand people and it was nuts at that point. So when you
- 57:32compare a Facebook group to like Instagram accounts, we're a community where people can
- 57:38talk, they can start their own posts, they can do their own things,
- 57:43and it's not run by one person who controls the story. I of
- 57:47course am an admin, so I control some stories, but other people.
- 57:52We allow everybody to post. It's a democracy, yeah, and I allow
- 57:58everybody except for some people to post some things. But for the most part,
- 58:00it's just a very active community of Bravo fans and they are loyal,
- 58:07loyal. Oh yeah. And then after Bravo Con twenty twenty two, we
- 58:10had a little lull, but not really because then guess what happened in February?
- 58:15What Oh the scandival? Yeah? Yeah, Nce again. Okay,
- 58:21so you're popping off about because it's not just as I scrolled through, it's
- 58:24not just stuff about Bravo Khan. You know, you guys are like,
- 58:28you know, people are popping up and being like, did anyone see this
- 58:31on Salt Lake City? I'm still here for this or you know, yeah,
- 58:35I mean it's the conversation starters for lots of things. So scandival happened,
- 58:39and did that expand your Facebook page as well? Yeah? I would
- 58:45have to say that. For about a month months and a half until Bravo
- 58:49Kan was announced, it was crazy. I mean I was like, me
- 58:55and Susie were like, oh my god, this group is crazy, and
- 58:59it was fun crazy because we were all into it, you know. So
- 59:01it was kind of like again that we were We had twenty thirty posts a
- 59:06day, people were putting up everything. It was like our own you know,
- 59:08just a little private fund corner and Facebook and then tickets came out and
- 59:14then the whole group went wild again. And now it's the group has kind
- 59:17of slowed down, but we're doing it a lot different this year because Bravo
- 59:22had they gave my group pre pre sale hotel deals, so we work with
- 59:32Bravo on something. So okay, okay, okay, whoa wow, Yeah
- 59:39there are one. I mean, we are not affiliated, but they have
- 59:43kind of taken us on as here. You got such a great group because
- 59:46we manage it really well. There is no yes like, no mean girls,
- 59:52no hate. If if you make a mean comment, you're out.
- 59:57We just you know, keep it really managed. So I think that they
- 1:00:00appreciate that with us. Yeah. Wow, yeah, we talked to you.
- 1:00:04Would you say that you talk to them quite a bit. Oh my
- 1:00:07god, that's amazing, you know. I mean that's the thing. So
- 1:00:10and we also had pre sale tickets, so it's everybody know. Basically everyone
- 1:00:19who was in your group was able to probably secure a ticket because they were
- 1:00:23able to get the pre sale. Not this year. Oh, this year
- 1:00:28it was a lot different because I think Bravo marketed the Bravo Con bigger scale
- 1:00:34this year. Yeah, so a lot of people didn't get tickets. So
- 1:00:37they didn't give you a pre sale again this year. No, they did,
- 1:00:40Oh they did, but but people still weren't able to get them.
- 1:00:45No, because there's two reasons. One is because we're a bigger group.
- 1:00:49You know, we were at It's nineteen. Yeah, we have like half
- 1:00:53of Bravo Con. That's more than half of Bravo Con right there all weekend.
- 1:00:58Yeah, tickets sold out within five minutes, like seriously, and that
- 1:01:02was pre sale day before public okay, gotcha, Oh wow, I didn't
- 1:01:07realize that was pre sale day Okay. And then so pre sale day,
- 1:01:13so we actually got the hotels back in like April, and everybody secured their
- 1:01:15hotels and we got three hotels that were staying at Link, Cara and and
- 1:01:22Caesar's. Great, I'm at Caesar's. Oh my god. Well, well
- 1:01:27you're going to try to do a little meet up there maybe possibly, but
- 1:01:30okay, cool. Kind of got our event calendar kind of full, not
- 1:01:32with yours that we're doing. Yes, thank you for I mean that's the
- 1:01:37thing too, which I was so honored to be, you know, featured
- 1:01:42in the in the group. You put a nice post up there for me,
- 1:01:45and you were for the Saturday night. I know that you were,
- 1:01:50you know, really encouraging people for that to be your Saturday night meet up.
- 1:01:53And then after the cabareamy, you know, because there's a bar at
- 1:01:58the theater, so everyone just go to that bar and just hang out there.
- 1:02:01Especially because the other thing I wanted to mention to, you know,
- 1:02:06and we can talk about this on your group, but like Fremont Street,
- 1:02:10if people haven't been to Vegas before and they haven't experienced the Fremont experience,
- 1:02:16that is something that is not on the main strip of Las Vegas that's completely
- 1:02:21off. Like Fremont Street is like twenty minutes from the main strip and that's
- 1:02:25where the theater is that I'm performing in, and so it's and it's right
- 1:02:30on like at the very end of Fremont Street, which is where the theater
- 1:02:34is. So I thought that would be kind of cool if you know,
- 1:02:37people who are going can have that Fremont experience. You know, walk down
- 1:02:42and see you can see the Golden Nugget where speaking of sandobal where are ear
- 1:02:46and sand It all made out in the Golden Nugget pool. And then you
- 1:02:51know, make your way down and you get to see like on the roof
- 1:02:53how they have the whole like light show thing. It's so cool and it's
- 1:02:58very unique to last Vegas because it's like old Vegas. So and if people
- 1:03:04haven't ever experienced that, it's a great excuse to get over in that area.
- 1:03:07So yeah, I know, I'm so happy that it's a really cool
- 1:03:10part of town. Like get a tattoo, you know what I mean,
- 1:03:14Like check out that there's an awesome like cowboy on a you know cowboy writing,
- 1:03:19you know, a horror statue or no Neon sign. But anyway,
- 1:03:23I to a pin up that is pretty cool. It's all Neon. Yes,
- 1:03:29yeah, such a great great photo ops. And it's just you get
- 1:03:32that vibe of old Vegas which is really really fun and unique now. And
- 1:03:37so I appreciate you posting on your page. There have been so many wonderful,
- 1:03:42you know, supportive people that I know are coming and I can't wait
- 1:03:45to like jump in and like I wish I could do you know, when
- 1:03:49you're at a concert and people like do what do you call it? Like
- 1:03:52they jump in the mosh pit and then they like body surf. I wish
- 1:03:54I could do that to your Facebook group because that'd be such a blast,
- 1:03:59but so thank you for posting that. So you have a lot of meetups
- 1:04:03happening when you are going to be at Bravo Con and you're spearheading what you're
- 1:04:08doing, is that what you're up to. I'm gonna tell you that with
- 1:04:11Vegas, it's a different game. Because Vegas, I told you in the
- 1:04:15Instagram message that it was thirty grand for me to secure a meetup room,
- 1:04:19and I was like, okay, I don't even charge anybody for anything.
- 1:04:23I make zero money off this Facebook group. This is all hobby hobby,
- 1:04:28So I said, I can't figure out a way to monetize it. I
- 1:04:31know, right, I was like, I can't charge. I can't charge
- 1:04:34people for this meetup. So I figured out a couple other things. I
- 1:04:38got access to a really cool vintage bar that I'm not going to mention because
- 1:04:44it's private, but we can probably hold three hundred people as a rotating group
- 1:04:47all night because you know people are going to go take it over and have
- 1:04:50a couple of drinks and leave, you know. Yeah, And I'm doing
- 1:04:54Bravo trivia. I bought one of the books from an instagrammer mentioned their names
- 1:05:00or anything. But wrote please do I love your moms are watching? Oh,
- 1:05:06your moms are watching? Yeahs, Oh how great they wrote it?
- 1:05:11Yes, they saw something posted about that. That's awesome. Yeah, she's
- 1:05:14the girl who wrote the Captain Lee show. I think so she's so she's
- 1:05:17gonna be doing that that night. But I'm gonna do the Robert trivia in
- 1:05:20her book and we're gonna give some away. But it's a small vintage Vegas
- 1:05:25bar and it's super cool and I used to go there when I lived there,
- 1:05:29So I secured that whole venue for three hours and there's no gonna be
- 1:05:32no cover, just show up. And then after that we're doing a special
- 1:05:36after dark party for the group. Is to kickoff Thursday night on the Strip,
- 1:05:40which is something that's only secret also for our members. And then we're
- 1:05:45gonna take Friday off from meetups because let me tell you that after last year,
- 1:05:50Yeah, I was pretty hungover on Friday. Because you're gonna be getting
- 1:05:56there, You're gonna do a meet up on Thursday, right, You're doing
- 1:05:59Thursday. You're gonna you're gonna rest and rejubate, recalibrate, reboot Friday,
- 1:06:04yes, and then back at it. Yes, and then so now it's
- 1:06:09different because Jabet's was so close to the hotel and now we have to well,
- 1:06:12so's the form. I'm at the link, So it's just figuring it
- 1:06:15out the first day getting there and stuff like that, you know, and
- 1:06:18then all day Bravo and then Friday night is the Bravos, the Bravos for
- 1:06:25Legends Ball, what Happens Live. Yeah, after that, I'll be probably
- 1:06:29back at the hotel just you know, doing what we did last year,
- 1:06:33drink, talk and have fun. And then Saturday is just our normal day
- 1:06:39and we might throw meat up in there. We're not sure. But then
- 1:06:41we got your event at night, so that's gonna be another jam packed day.
- 1:06:45Yeah, I mean full day. Yeah. And then I loved last
- 1:06:48year's Sunday. It was so awesome that when people are like, everybody goes
- 1:06:53home on Sunday, I'm like, no, they do not. No,
- 1:06:56this is a very expensive weekend. Stay every minute you can. In fact,
- 1:07:01I'm flying in Wednesday and leaving Tuesday. Great because for you to prep
- 1:07:06and I need a day to recover. You deserve it, Lisa. I
- 1:07:12feel like we need to like start a gofund me for you, just like
- 1:07:16can we get her as a spot day? For the love of God,
- 1:07:19Oh my God, because you know what, last year I must have hugged
- 1:07:24a thousand people because from the group and it was my only time to feel
- 1:07:28like a little baby brovol I was like, did you cry? I mean
- 1:07:31that had to have been so overwhelming and really beautiful because you created this whole
- 1:07:35community. I mean, it's really something special and I love I love the
- 1:07:40vibe of your group and like you said, you don't you know, I
- 1:07:44don't want to say tolerate, but you keep it a good a safe space,
- 1:07:48a healthy happy a healthy place for people to come and not get toxic.
- 1:07:55And it's easy to do, you know, I mean because we all,
- 1:07:59as Jenna Lion said in this week's episode, that we are all broken
- 1:08:02people and that is very true. But I love what you've created and like
- 1:08:09it's just going to grow and grow and grow, and I hope that it's
- 1:08:13it is fulfilling for you. It seems like it is. It is.
- 1:08:16Well, the one thing is we are focused on is Bravo Khan, but
- 1:08:19between seasons, which is to us Bravo con we talk about everything else too.
- 1:08:28Yeah, and we follow all that everybody can post if they want to.
- 1:08:31So they go in and post about shows and gossip and dramas and everything
- 1:08:35else. So it stays pretty lively between the seasons. And now after this
- 1:08:42one, you know, we're gonna see how big we're going to get.
- 1:08:45Who knows there's you know, Unfortunately, there's a couple other things going on
- 1:08:49Facebook I'm not thrilled about. So, oh my god, is there Facebook
- 1:08:55drama that I need to know about? Well, but this way, there's
- 1:08:58another group out there that allowing scammers to sell tickets. And I have been
- 1:09:03the scam master trying to find all these people and keeping the lists of all
- 1:09:09the scammers, and they come from these groups. So to me, I'm
- 1:09:13like, no, I'm like playing police dude. Oh my gosh, Lisa,
- 1:09:17your whole mod team has been doing this for month and a half.
- 1:09:21Now. I did notice that you've got very strict rules about posting ticket selling
- 1:09:28tickets or recent We allow it. We allow member to member sales. And
- 1:09:33that's where all these scammers started picking up on it, because they do this
- 1:09:36for NASCAR and everybody else. You know, they scam people in these Facebook
- 1:09:40groups. So we finally put down our we put the foot down and said,
- 1:09:44here are the rules. If you're going to buy tickets from someone,
- 1:09:45you have to follow these rules because we can't guide you on every single ticket
- 1:09:50sale. I mean, we both all this work. You know, you're
- 1:09:54busy that you go out of your way to this is im. You really
- 1:10:00are my mom, You're like, god, oh man, let me tell
- 1:10:06you that. Susie and I tell you that we have a private text check
- 1:10:10going all the time and a Facebook one and yeah, we both do it
- 1:10:14for just the love of it and it's so fun, but we really are
- 1:10:17protective. Yeah, and good for you. Just to let everybody know.
- 1:10:21Scammers are going to come back here right before the Bravokan event because they're gonna
- 1:10:26try to sell tickets again because they know people are thirsty for them, right
- 1:10:29and they you know, didn't have a good chance this year. So but
- 1:10:32yeah, we'll be watching that. But the thing is, if you go
- 1:10:35to these Bravo groups, just we are the original Bravo Khan. We're not
- 1:10:39Bravo kan any numbers, and you'll know because that they're right now, it's
- 1:10:43like nineteen point whatever thousand follower i mean subscribers members if you will, so
- 1:10:49you'll know the group. Yeah, and it's kind of like you know,
- 1:10:55I had, I had nobody else for years, and it's you know,
- 1:10:58it's good about to happen to. Other people are going to start groups and
- 1:11:00I am not competitive. No, it's not coming from a Yeah, there's
- 1:11:04no race in this. It's just a great group. And then you know,
- 1:11:08it's not like you can't be in other groups. You can't. It's
- 1:11:11not like it's an exclusive thing where you know, people corner to the market
- 1:11:15and housewives stuff, because everybody has it, but yours just really stands apart
- 1:11:19for so many reasons, and it's the longevity of it. It's great.
- 1:11:24I can't wait to meet everybody, like I can't wait to jam out,
- 1:11:28especially because Saturday for me, that's gonna be my last show. So I'm
- 1:11:32going to be like ready to play, and so that's going to be a
- 1:11:38blast. Was I gonna say, oh, yeah, do you want me
- 1:11:40to link your Facebook page in the podcast notes? Okay? Cool? So
- 1:11:45I will link the Facebook group in the podcast notes and then you just you
- 1:11:49got to go through Lisa. If you want to get in, you got
- 1:11:51to go through her Man. Well, we prove everybody. You got to
- 1:11:54answer all the questions. We're kind of got real hardcore. So get this.
- 1:11:57Even with that, our membership went down because we started being more hardcore.
- 1:12:00To protect ours good, I'm not going to race to be the biggest
- 1:12:04group. I want to be just the best group. Yeah, and I
- 1:12:06don't. I mean, I don't make any money, so it's a matter.
- 1:12:11I know, again we have to remedy that. But I barely make
- 1:12:13any money either. But you know what passion get Passion pushes you a long
- 1:12:16way. Let me tell you, I can't figure out how to monetize it,
- 1:12:23so I just gave up. Well, listen, if anybody knows how
- 1:12:26to suggest some monetization for her Facebook page, that would be great. And
- 1:12:31you know I'm not the best at that either. You know, I'm trying
- 1:12:34to find sponsors for my show and things like that. But I mean,
- 1:12:39I have a patron page, so I have wonderful subscribers that you know,
- 1:12:43support me in that way. But this is this is a public, This
- 1:12:45is on the public. I do two live public podcasts a week Tuesdays and
- 1:12:50Thursdays, and that's free. So so I go and I basically do like
- 1:12:55six shows a week. I recap so whatever shows are on Monday night you're
- 1:13:00to hear on the Free Or Sunday or Monday night, you're gonna hear on
- 1:13:01the Free podcast. Whatever shows air on Wednesday night, you're gonna hear on
- 1:13:05the Free Podcast on Thursday. The rest is over on Patreon. I do
- 1:13:09like tons of recaps. By the way, you have a podcast too,
- 1:13:13don't you. How do you have time? Well, I we're on pause
- 1:13:15right now. You're on pod I and pause. John got real busy with
- 1:13:23work and I had my own drama with moving, so we're on pause.
- 1:13:28We should pick it up here in the next week or so. But it's
- 1:13:30called the Queens of Bravo Con Fun. Okay, Oh, that's great,
- 1:13:36talk about Bravo Con. And you know what, for a while, there
- 1:13:39was nothing to talk about, so we just took a break anyway, but
- 1:13:42we'll be picking it back up now. It's on Spotify and then we have
- 1:13:46a YouTube. We just do a video at the same time. Oh,
- 1:13:49that's awesome. That's great means of Bravo Con. And then maybe after the
- 1:13:53show or after the event, I might start doing some more because you know,
- 1:13:57when you go to these events, you start talking to people and I'm
- 1:13:59like come on my show, Come on my show. Yeah, and you
- 1:14:00could do recaps and stuff like that about bravocon Like, I'm going to bring
- 1:14:03my equipment to Bravocan, I'm going to try to do a podcast that Friday
- 1:14:09from there before I start my weekend, so well, we can do a
- 1:14:14recap after when it slowed down because I'm sharing your story. Yeah. Absolutely,
- 1:14:18Oh yeah, I can't wait. I'm so exciting for you. I'm
- 1:14:20so happy to be connected with you, and thank you to you and all
- 1:14:25your Susie and all your moderators and all of your members who make it so
- 1:14:29great and I can't wait to see it. Bravo Coon and Sherry, who
- 1:14:31about your cookbook? Our moderator Sary. When I told the girls that we're
- 1:14:40coming to your show, she was like, I about her cookbook. I
- 1:14:43was like, oh cool, Oh that's so nice. That's really sweet.
- 1:14:45I appreciate it. We look forward to meeting you too and hosting the event
- 1:14:48there and and it'll be a great turnout, I'm sure. So anybody wants
- 1:14:53to show up to join our Facebook group and you'll get all the notes,
- 1:14:57you get all the you know, all all of the exclusive content back there
- 1:15:02at the Facebook gust crazy. Well listen, thank you so much, Lisa
- 1:15:08Henderson and I can't wait to see you in person at Bravakan in like a
- 1:15:14couple of months. I can't believe it. Yeah, no, it's not
- 1:15:16even fifty days. It's fifty days accounting nothing coming down by Lisa, everybody
- 1:15:26there. Drama Darling, Drama Darling.