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Lobster Man from Mars · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: We're in where we are.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Alexander Philippe, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Welcome to Moving Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from, uh,
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  Speaker 2: here we go. Where are we at? Have you named
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  Speaker 2: your wonderful new home that you live in?
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  Speaker 4: I call it the firehouse.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is actually a firehouse.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't put a whole lot of energy into naming
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  Speaker 4: it because it, you know, you got a classic, so
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  Speaker 4: why mess with it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little upset there's no poll, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: just saying.
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  Speaker 4: Man, that's the first thing everyone asks me about this place. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: if they're here, they say, where's the pole? If they're,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm just telling them about it, they say, does
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  Speaker 4: it still have a pole? And, um, Getting sick of
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  Speaker 4: being asked about it, if I'm being honest. No, I
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  Speaker 4: don't mind you asking.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm just saying, as you know many times
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  Speaker 2: we've discussed it, I worked in a place that had
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  Speaker 2: a fire pole. Sure. That was not a firehouse currently,
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  Speaker 2: but once again had in a former life many years
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  Speaker 2: earlier been a firehouse. And they plugged it up because
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  Speaker 2: they were jerks.
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  Speaker 4: Well, my upstairs neighbor thinks she's figured out where it's at.
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  Speaker 4: And she said in the corner of her living room,
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  Speaker 4: there's a box attached to the floor that With a
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  Speaker 4: lid that she hasn't, she said she's afraid to open.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like we need a crowbar.
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  Speaker 4: Because.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to town on this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, she's afraid she's going to be looking down into
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  Speaker 4: my apartment.
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  Speaker 2: Probably. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which I would be okay with.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we still need the pole, otherwise you're just
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  Speaker 2: going to fall.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that in and of itself, but.
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  Speaker 4: This probably didn't... That's what somebody else suggested.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's about the size of the hole, actually. We're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the area where the ceiling fixture is, and
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  Speaker 2: there's a big sort of square there that's about the
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  Speaker 2: size of the hole of the other firehouse setup.
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  Speaker 4: So, could be. Could be, but the way she described it,
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  Speaker 4: the box that she found it was over in the corner.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have to travel back in time. That's
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  Speaker 2: all there is to it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I would love to.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking that the other day as a picture
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  Speaker 2: of a, again, being the geek that I am, a
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  Speaker 2: movie theater popped up and we had so many awesome
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  Speaker 2: movie theaters in our town. And it was one that
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  Speaker 2: like I just in the last few years figured out
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  Speaker 2: like it used to be there because like it's on
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  Speaker 2: a street that I'm on all the time. And like
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  Speaker 2: it's been leveled for years now. So I'm like, son
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  Speaker 2: of a bitch, because this looks really cool. And like
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  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen this. So. time
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  Speaker 2: traveling just to go visit old timey movie theaters and
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  Speaker 2: slide down your fireball.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: These are the important things in life.
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  Speaker 4: That. And, uh, I would also like to go back
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  Speaker 4: in time so I can play with the Dalmatian that's
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  Speaker 4: buried in the side yard.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, ghost dog. So you got that, man.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So for those of you listening at home, uh,
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  Speaker 4: obviously my apartment is in a decommissioned firehouse, but, The
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  Speaker 4: day I moved in, I noticed that there was a
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  Speaker 4: grave marker for the old fire dog that used to
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  Speaker 4: live here. So I was super excited, hoping that I
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  Speaker 4: would get a ghost dog with my apartment. And so far,
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  Speaker 4: no such luck.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I assume he's here. Maybe he's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a well-behaved dog. He's controlling himself.
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  Speaker 4: He's apparently a very good boy. He must be a
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  Speaker 4: good boy. I mean, they built a people-sized gravestone.
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  Speaker 2: They actually buried him on the premises and gave him
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  Speaker 2: a headstone and everything. That's pretty impressive. It's more than
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get in problem. Just going to dump
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  Speaker 2: me out back in a cardboard box or something.
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  Speaker 4: I've already got the coffee can picked up.
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  Speaker 2: On that cheery note, hey, we're a little different this time,
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  Speaker 2: so I guess we have to give you the updates now.
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  Speaker 2: the important Meltdown Horror Club news, because this is technically
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  Speaker 2: not a Horror Club episode, because one of our peoples
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  Speaker 2: is gone, so we're all taking our government-sanctioned maternity leave. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you and I might be impregnated with aliens.
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  Speaker 4: It's possible.
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  Speaker 2: I figure. I feel like the movie gave.
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  Speaker 4: Me alien baby eggs.
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  Speaker 2: So we're probably, we're going to cane it on this
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  Speaker 2: table in a little while. So, Yeah, we're probably also impregnated.
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  Speaker 2: So just for that sake, we'll all take our maternity
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  Speaker 2: leave from the horror club. We still gotta come do this.
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  Speaker 2: But that other slacker's off like having a child. We
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  Speaker 2: miss you, Nora.
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  Speaker 4: We do.
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  Speaker 2: She said she'll be up at 3 a.m. listening. That
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  Speaker 2: also sucks for you. But you get a baby, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: if you want one of those. So we're taking a
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  Speaker 2: break from our typical horror-specific stuff. I guess. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We're just sort of winging it at this point. But
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  Speaker 2: I said since we're letting her out for a little while,
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  Speaker 2: that gives us an excuse to do other stuff so
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  Speaker 2: we can mix it up and do some other weird things.
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  Speaker 2: So who doesn't want to do weird things? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: when we're involved, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's not that I want to do them.
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  Speaker 4: It just happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're already going to be doing them,
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  Speaker 2: so we might as well just roll with it.
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  Speaker 4: May as well document it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking. So we also.
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  Speaker 2: Are heading into the holidays. I know it's 900 degrees
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  Speaker 2: outside right now where we're at, but, you know, it'll
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  Speaker 2: be very quickly. We're in the middle of the holiday season,
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  Speaker 2: and by that I mean Halloween. I don't care about
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  Speaker 2: that other nonsense. Not really. I mean, not compared to Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: The other holidays can go screw.
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  Speaker 2: The others are fine. I like them the week before
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  Speaker 2: it happens. Not two months before it happens, but the
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  Speaker 2: week before it happens. I'm like, oh, look, trees and lights.
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  Speaker 4: That's all fine.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so we're going to do something for those,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose. But we told Nora that last session, you're
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  Speaker 2: not getting out of this ongoing punishment that we've had
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  Speaker 2: of Silent Night Deadly. You're not escaping that just because
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  Speaker 2: this kid came along and rescued you. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: So we're just pushing pause on that horrifying series. And
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  Speaker 2: then we'll get back.
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  Speaker 4: That was her plan.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe. I mean, she conveniently mapped it out. So she'd
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  Speaker 2: have a Halloween baby and then still kind of be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little too soon. I'm taking her this kid.
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  Speaker 2: You guys enjoy that terrible movie. Tell Mickey Rudy I
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: said hi. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to hold off. So that way we can
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  Speaker 2: keep this series going for all eternity. Because by then
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the reboot part two will be out or.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever else is going to come in this series.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm angered by her trickery, but I'm in awe
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  Speaker 4: of her genius.
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  Speaker 2: Impressed, really, because that's also a really big biological grand scheme.
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  Speaker 2: So it's impressive, really.
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  Speaker 4: It really is. Well done, Nora.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's the kind of smart character that gets
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  Speaker 2: on Jeopardy.
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  Speaker 4: That is also true.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not surprised.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the two of us can barely tie our own shoes.
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  Speaker 2: These are velcro. Anyway, yeah, so that's the main things
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  Speaker 2: we're passing along is that we're taking a break from
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  Speaker 2: our normal horror type stuff. We'll be back. We're figuring
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  Speaker 2: out which ridiculous holiday related things we're going to do,
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  Speaker 2: but not necessarily the traditional horror that we do every
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  Speaker 2: other year because we have an excuse to do something weird.
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  Speaker 2: So weirdness, that's what we have in our future.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That having been said, we're also in this other location.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you for letting us come hang out at
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  Speaker 2: the firehouse.
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  Speaker 4: Not a problem. I'm just happy to have company for once.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even have an option at the old Oddity Studios.
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  Speaker 2: It's still there, but it's packed with so much stuff.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're always at the Kitty Corral. So now
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  Speaker 2: that she's doing her own kitty thing, I still think
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  Speaker 2: those cats are going to team up on that baby.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: That's a whole nother avenue. So yeah, now we had
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  Speaker 2: to find a new location. So mine's out of control
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  Speaker 2: as per usual. I thought this was so me. I
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  Speaker 2: thought I would share it with you and give pretty
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  Speaker 2: good excuse of why you can't like sit anything down
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  Speaker 2: to record at my home. Last weekend, I got not one,
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  Speaker 2: but quite a few RCA video discs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I was looking at them as I'm hauling them home. Now, granted,
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  Speaker 2: at least, because I will discuss my poverty most of
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  Speaker 2: the time, at least I did find them for relatively cheap. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And they were weird titles. I didn't even know were
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  Speaker 2: on this. That's why I was like, ah, son of
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  Speaker 2: a bitch, I kind of need this.
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Go off and leave this. So there were several of
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  Speaker 2: them that I'm like, okay, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: hell I'm going to do with these. To me, they're
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  Speaker 2: kind of nice for display because they're so big. And
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  Speaker 2: some of them have different artwork that I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: even on the VHS boxes of that era. So that
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  Speaker 2: was my reasoning is what I told myself. I also
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  Speaker 2: have a problem.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't going to say anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've come to terms with it. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how to physically put everything anywhere. but so yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: toting home a big stack of RCA picture disc. If
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: you don't know what that is, you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to like Google it. It's not even laser disc lame,
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  Speaker 2: which I also have boxes of those sitting somewhere, but no,
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  Speaker 2: this is even more, I was like, this is the
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  Speaker 2: most outdated form of physical media that ever was like
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  Speaker 2: mass produced. And I just, bought a big stack of them.
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  Speaker 2: That was maybe the most me thing I'd seen me
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  Speaker 2: do in a while.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, not only am I buying physical media,
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  Speaker 2: not only am I buying a dead physical media, I'm
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  Speaker 2: buying the most dead physical media.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that's me.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why we're not at my place because there's
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  Speaker 2: stacks of things of that nature. Now take that and
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  Speaker 2: multiply it by like a thousand other dumb random super
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  Speaker 2: geek oriented things and that's my home. Hoarder's Path. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with at this point.
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  Speaker 4: I am trying so hard to not develop one of those.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fight.
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  Speaker 4: Every day it's a fight.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway now that we're not specifically doing horror I
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  Speaker 2: don't have to ask creepy, this opens it up to
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  Speaker 2: whatever we want. So, have you seen any movies lately?
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  Speaker 4: No. Actually, I've been getting caught up on TV shows
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: that I hadn't been watching.
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  Speaker 2: Feel free to throw those in.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've been watching the new Rick and Morty spinoff,
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  Speaker 4: President Curtis.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask where you are in the I
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: don't even know, like, Rick and Morty, where you stand
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  Speaker 2: on that. I enjoy it. Because some people, that's the thing,
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  Speaker 2: I like it. Have you seen the new season? Because
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: I just realized it was out and then went, oh, wait,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: I think the thing I just had to sign up
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: for to watch a movie a couple of weeks back
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: now also has those, so I just started watching the
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: new season of Rick and Morty.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm on episode, or I just finished episode
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  Speaker 4: eight or nine of it.
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  Speaker 2: I just am like two, no, three in.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Just this weekend, so. before we get to the president,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say, and this has been maybe since the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: but definitely these last several seasons, I'm like, it's sort
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: of all or nothing with them. It's like, they are,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're all silly, but they're silly, like goofy
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: adventure of the week going on this week. And then heavy,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: like there are some that are just so dark that
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, wow. I mean the, the spaghetti episode
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  Speaker 2: last season. Oh my God.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was just like, don't get me wrong. This
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: is maybe one of the most impressive stories I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: And no one would bother to tell this level of
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: a God awful story with this devotion to how dark
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: it is. So I'm like, I'm impressed and it's good storytelling,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: but also good God, this is dark. It's just harsh.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: And then we had the, I guess, second one, I think,
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  Speaker 2: this one, where he goes on his vacation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one was a little heavy. That was probably
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  Speaker 4: the heaviest one I've seen this new season.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, like, those are the ones that make
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  Speaker 2: me want to come back and watch it. Because then
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: we got to the other, like, this third one was
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: just sort of like, hey, super fun adventures. And I'm
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, that was fun. But, like, it doesn't
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: make it any different than any other, like, Adult Swim
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  Speaker 2: kind of made-for-grown-ups animated show.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: Versus like the one where he goes on vacation and
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: you get to that last line in that episode and
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, fuck. I'm just like, and that's, I'm like, well,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: that's what sets you apart. Like when you do those,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: that's what makes your show a cut above the other
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: run of the mill goings on out there. And don't
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, there's plenty of people who have issues
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: with it and it deserves its issues, certainly with its creators.
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  Speaker 2: But as the episodes go, yeah, I'm like, it's still,
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  Speaker 2: it's still, telling an important story in a way because
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: it's doing something different than a lot of other shows
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's when you really... I mean, you don't
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: really have to dig that hard, but when you start
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: getting into the underlying themes of loneliness and depression and just...
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  Speaker 4: It's so dark.
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  Speaker 1: It's dark.
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  Speaker 2: And just always... This is my favorite. It always finds
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: a way to just... dick it to you in the
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: end yeah like even like you you would almost write
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: off rick as a character like he's just at times
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: like you you can't redeem him anymore like he's done
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: so many horrible things you're just but then there'll be
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: that one episode you're just like oh look now he
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: he really went out of his way to go save
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: morty and he really he kind of showed in his
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: own way that he loves morty and then like there's
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: always a cutting their legs out from under you in
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: that last second of just like son of bitch, he
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: did it again. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the Vindicators
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  Speaker 2: episode is always like, I think of, it's like, is
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: that the other superheroes? And he built like the little
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: ride thing while he's drunk. And like, by the end,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: you're just like, Oh, look what he did. He really
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: loves Morty. It's all great. And then like the reveal
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  Speaker 2: at the end, I'm like, ah, fuck you guys. Fuck
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  Speaker 2: you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You guys suck. Except, Damn, that's impressive. So, yeah, it's
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: such a double-edged sword, but it's still kind of impressive
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  Speaker 2: at doing when it's at its peak, which is also
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: its darkest. So, anyway, your show. The President.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, President Curtis. Yeah, it's a spinoff featuring President Curtis,
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: who is oftentimes... On Rick and Morty, he is.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're not enemies, but they're... Rick and Morty
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: are often called to do favors for the president, and
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: now he has his own standalone show, and it's got potential.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a little too early to say just
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: how good it could be, but Have you seen it yet?
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  Speaker 2: I saw the promo for it during these new episodes,
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  Speaker 2: so I at least know more or less what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: So they don't have any crossover on these episodes?
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  Speaker 4: Well, in the very first episode, they make a cameo appearance.
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  Speaker 2: In true spinoff form.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, my one complaint is probably
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  Speaker 4: a bit too strong. But it's an ensemble cast of
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: three characters. And right now, sometimes it feels like there's
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: one character too many. But I can't figure out which
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: character they would benefit by getting rid of.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Just out of those three? Yeah. That's interesting. Because I
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: have to say, over the seasons, I love when they
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: throw Summer in. Yeah. So I like the addition of that.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Or the... throwing in the evil Morty this time with
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the season. It was interesting. I was like, Oh, there's
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a third wheel. I didn't see coming.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: So, well, in this one he's cause it's, it's president
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Curtis and it's, it's, uh, his like chief secret service guy.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Who's half leprechaun. Of course. And then they've got, there's
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a cyborg who I don't, I don't remember what her
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: actual title is. Um, but it's like, those two are
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: almost competing for story time.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: And then President Curtis is kind of like the Jerry Seinfeld,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: where he's the middle of everything that revolves around him.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: What's the deal with this country? Yeah. But yeah, it
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: looked fun. I want to at least check it out.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long I'll have this, so I
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: kind of want to knock out the Rick and Morty season. Sure,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: fair enough. See if I have room for a president
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: before I have to get rid of it, because I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: can't afford all these damn streaming services.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: If you like Rick and Morty, you should like President Curtis.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. He does have an awesome voice.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: If nothing else.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Which they make a big deal about in the first episode.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't notice in the promo they mentioned it. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: was like, well, he does have an awesome voice. Good
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: for him. Animation, that's your game. Oh, yeah. So, has
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: that been your main viewing?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Those two, yeah. Those two, catching up on Rick and
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Morty and President Curtis have been my main go-to. And
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I have to wait for both of them because they're
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: not all on the streaming service yet, which is the
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: only way I have to watch it because I'm too
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: poor to afford the actual channel it's on. But it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: nice because they both come out on Sundays, and I'm
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: usually busy Sunday nights. But it gives me something to
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: look forward to on Monday when I'm at work. I'm like, oh,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I get to go home and watch the new Rick
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and Morty tonight.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Is it that weird Adult Swim streaming thing?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I've been watching them on HBO Max.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, that's where I ended up with this one
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: for now. But again, not for very long. But I
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: have the only reason I've been able to catch up
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: on the previous seasons is there's a streaming like on
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: your Roku that's like Adult Swim and 90% of it
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you're locked out of. Yeah. which is really annoying unless
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you have cable, which I'm like, if you had cable,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: why would you be watching it on cable? You don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: need this streaming after the fact version. If you're just
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: watching it when it comes out on cable, but whatever,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that's just always seems stupid to me. But for some reason,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I guess because they're so damn popular, the Rick and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Morty stuff is the most accessible. But even then there's
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: like a weird window and you can never quite, or I,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: never paid attention enough, I guess you could get a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: calendar and map it out or something, but like, certain
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: ones would be available at certain times, but then they
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: would disappear, and then other ones out of that season
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: would be. So you could watch at one point, one, two,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and three, and then the rest were locked out. Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: but then it would come back in like four five
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and six but you couldn't now one two and three
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: were gone and it's like you'd you'd have to catch
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it at the right time to be able to eventually
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: get through the whole season which eventually i did but
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it took there was a while where i missed like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the last tail end of it And then it was
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: like three months before I came back around and found
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the right time when I hit it again. I was
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: just like, it's so annoying.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was trying to watch the Venture Brothers
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: and something else on Adult Swim. And I was trying
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: to do it like that. After a while, I was like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: you know what? I just don't have the energy for this.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So much of it I don't care about. Just looking
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: through all these titles going, I didn't even know this
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: was a thing. But then you get to one or two,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: then I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that one when
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I watched it on old-timey cable version. And I'm like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I'd watch that again. And I'll go to it and, like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: none of them. There's, like, two episodes out of something
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that had, like, seven seasons. I'm like, what is the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: point of this then? Like, why have this technology and
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: then not give anyone the chance to use it? Not
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: even the people that, like, bother to have their cable
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: code can get to it. Like, there's only two accessible
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: even with that. So I'm just like, what is the point?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: So how do we get a show on Adult Swim?
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Because there's, like you said, you look on there and
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: it's like, I've never heard of these. We could come
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: up with something that no one will ever hear of.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would think that back when they would
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: come on. I mean, it would be like 1130 or,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, when you'd seen the regular ones you normally
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: watch and then some other thing would pop up on
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a 15 minute interval and it'd be like, what the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: hell is this?
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I guarantee I could come up with something just as
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: bad as Xavier Renegade Angel.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many that I'm just like, That's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: why it was so hit and miss for me. Cause
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, some of the things on there are genius.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And then there are others that I'm like, I don't
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: even know what you're going for, man. Like, not only
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: is it like not my style of humor, like I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: don't even know that it's meant to be humorous. Like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing, but it's 15 minutes
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: of it every week. And I'm like, all right, whatever. Like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I would really like my chance to do
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: 15 minutes of nonsense. So I could do that. I mean,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm working on, my own stupid skits right now.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So if adult swim wants to back them, I'll take it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Pay for somebody to do some robot chicken animation on it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I'm all for that. Well, mine, I had, I definitely
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: had a movie that sort of has a tie in
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: for our, where we're going. But then I also just
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: watched one that I was like, Oh, well this one again,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: because I don't have to worry about the overall theme.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And this one has a tie in that you might,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd be interested in it or
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: repelled by. But anyway, are you familiar with Mile End Kicks?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Not off the top of my head.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I've heard about it. Technically, I think it was made
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the end of last year. I just started seeing a
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: trailer for it at the beginning of this year, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I'd heard really good things about it. So it just
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: showed up, and I was like, oh, finally, I can
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: watch this. So I just watched that, and it's pretty
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: damn entertaining, I have to say. And it's 90%... I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: know I'm out of the loop once again, because I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: don't have all these streaming channels. So I didn't watch
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Euphoria like the rest of the world that loves Euphoria.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And I, I have no take on it. Cause I still,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't have those channels. I didn't see any of it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I still haven't seen any of it. So, uh, Barbie
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Ferreira is one of the main cast.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And, um, she is pretty impressive in this. Like she
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: is also super adorable. And like, dorky like is rocking
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: this like if you can be hot and dorky at
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the same time she has.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Mastered that is what i'm looking for that's.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: What i'm saying like i was like this is just
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: so perfect.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And don't don't get me wrong everybody out there i
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: will take one or the other but preferably if i
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: could get both i don't.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: And again watching this i'm just like yeah this is
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: why i don't even go down any of these roads
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: anymore i'm like this whole because she gets into a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: various versions of relationship type things not even real relationships
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: actually but like they're all so dysfunctional I'm like see
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: this is why I'm not even bothered unless Barbie's gonna
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: give me a call but for the most part I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: just don't even try anymore cause I don't care it's
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: not worth this fight that she's going through but the
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: tie in that you might again love or hate it's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: about rock bands.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Or not okay.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: So she's, uh, she's like out of high school. She's,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't remember if she's, I think she's college age,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: but she might've just gone into cause she's working for
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: like a, uh, or she might be out of college already,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: but she's working at like a magazine and or website
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: at this point. Magazines are almost defunct, but she's still
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: doing like kind of like music journalism, but also getting
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: thrown into and a lot of other stuff as you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: find out later because they just can use her because
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: she's a nobody. So sure. Throw all the, grunt work
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: at her anyway it sounds like so she also is
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: doing like music reviews and like this whole like group
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of like freaking annoying super trendy self-important dudes standing around
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: talking about music so that's one of the takeaways as
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: i was making my notes i'm like yeah music dorts
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: are pretentious and you kind of want to kill them
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit so yeah these those are the kind
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of guys she works with so eventually she like Decides
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: she's leaving there, which for reasons that come up later
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and you don't want to know that. But she decides
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: she wants to write a 33 and a third book. Oh, okay. And, like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: she moves to Montreal to, like, focus on writing her book.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: So she goes and gets, like, a room in, like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: an apartment with some girl that she doesn't even know
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: that she found on, like, Craigslist or something. And just...
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: stays there and is gonna write her book and like
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: she pitches the deal and like starts like all these
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: things are coming into play and like so the girl
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: she moves in with her boyfriend is in a band
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and then she meets like the other guys in the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: band and is like kind of involved with a couple
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: of the guys in the band So that's the real
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: takeaway in this. I don't know that you're going to argue.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Guys in bands suck.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Most of them, yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I was like, this is the fun takeaway.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's like, guys in general, I'm not going to argue,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: don't kind of suck. But for the most part, a
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: few occasional, like, this guy doesn't totally suck. But, yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: one in particular, and the friend tells her that from
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: the beginning. She's like, he's the worst guy in Montreal.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, by the end, you're like, oh, no,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: she was not lying. Like, this dude sucks. Like, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: not even in a normal guy in a band way.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: In like a weird guy in a band way. Like, yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: he sucks. So, yeah, she just kind of gets in
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: these horrible scenarios. And she's the most awkward person on
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the planet. And it's adorable. And I love it. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: almost in a way, because I'm watching it going like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: this is if like your Zooey Deschanel wasn't so fake. Mm-hmm.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Cause that was the, I mean, they built a whole
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: show around her being cute and adorable, but kind of awkward.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, but it always felt kind of fake.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I liked that show to some extent,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but I was like, at the same time, like it
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: never really, like she still felt a little too polished
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: for dorky girl. Yeah. And I was just like, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you're watching, you know, Barbie go through this. I'm just like, no,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: this girl is dorky. Like she is awkward in a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: real world kind of awkwardness. And I really respond to it. So, yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: she's pretty awesome. So that's most of the takeaways. Yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it's just sort of watching her. She's just, by the end,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's technically not a kid, but she's a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: kid making dumb mistakes in her life. And you're just
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: watching her going, oh, God, what are you doing? Just, yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: And not that I'm doing any better, but still, I'm
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: just like, oh, man, you'll learn the hard way on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: this one. So, yeah, it's pretty impressive, I have to say.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: And it's Chandler Levack, I think is her name. She
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: also did, I don't know if you saw, I watched
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it just like last year or so, a movie called
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I Like Movies.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That is a dorky kid. It's almost kind of the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: precursor to this because he was a dorky kid in
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: high school that liked movies and like his ultimate job
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was go get a job in a video store. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: know this seems really crazy for someone like me. So again,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: you can tell... Bit of a stretch there. Yeah, this
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: is the entirety of this director's life, I feel like,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in these two movies. Like, these are her things. Movie
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and music. Like, this is her thing. So like, these
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: are her dorky beginnings just sort of being thrown out
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: in these two movies. So that was pretty good. I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: was surprised how much I like that one. So these
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: are like indie-ish. They're pretty well financed. Really decent actors
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: that they're bringing in. Some of which are... pretty well
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: known but most of it's still kind of indie filmmaking
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff and they're really well done so if
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you haven't seen it yeah definitely what was it called
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: again mile into kicks i had to check again before
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: i left because i forget it every time like i
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: saw the trailer and was like what's the name of
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that again like it and i would usually get the
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: kicks and i'm like something it's like the name of
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: a shoe store that they go to like oh okay
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: which is Then it makes sense from that aspect, but
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: for the movie, every time I'm like, wait, what's the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: name of that? So I don't know if it works
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: as a movie title, but it's worth watching, so definitely
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: check it out. All right. So the other one, the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: one I was originally going to go with, just because
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it has a tie-in, because it's very sci-fi oriented, uh
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: i just watched memory colon the origins of alien which
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: is the uh friend of the show previous guests uh
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: alexander philippe yeah uh who this is what he does
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: and that's once i got in that's kind of how
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like i found a i know you're shocked a physical
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: copy of it And I was like, oh, I do
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: kind of want to see this basically just, I know
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: they've made like Alien. I even got like one of
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: those box sets that comes with a bunch of documentary
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: stuff for each of those first four movies, I feel like.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm sure there's something on there. But
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: because it was him, I was like, I kind of
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: want to see this just knowing what he does.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Because if you're not familiar, he also was the one
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that did the People vs. George Lucas originally. He did
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: that Doc of the Dead that was just kind of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: zombies in movies. The main one that's like super focused
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was the 7852, which I saw that one in the theater.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It's not just Hitchcock. It's not just Psycho. It's specifically
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the shower scene. Like that's the time code of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: shower scene in Psycho.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: And that's the entire documentary.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: The entire documentary is how important, how well executed, how...
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: influential the shower scene in particular is to filmmakers that
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: came afterwards I mean.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: As a kid I always heard it referred to as
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: the most famous scene in movie history.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: So I mean that's the thing I mean you could
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: easily do a documentary about Hitchcock you can even do
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a behind the scenes on Psycho but the fact that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the entire thing is pretty much just about this one
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: scene wow it's yeah so that's how focused he is
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and that's why I was like no I kind of
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: want to see his version of this And that's that's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the takeaway. I'm like, he is just so detail oriented.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And like he just kind of digs into what originally
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: like inspired Alien, like all the original. There's also a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: ton of stuff I didn't. It's a lot of stuff
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: on Dan O'Bannon, like before you even get to the director.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: So like before he was even involved to direct. it
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: was already Walter Hill was attached, which I don't think
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I realized.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: So like even when they started production, Walter Hill's name
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: was on stuff. Like it got that far into the process.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And then eventually that fell apart, which I'm like, I can't,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: as much as I love a lot of Walter Hill stuff,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Alien through the lens of Walter Hill is really weird
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to think about. So maybe I'm glad because I really
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: love the way Alien turned out anyway. So. Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Alien was not, I mean, we could go on about
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: that for days, but that was not your typical sci-fi
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: film of its time. You know, it's influenced everything since then, but.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Which is a lot of what he digs into. He's
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, this is not, again, even at the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: time you're coming off of like Star Wars and like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: this is not Star Wars. it's slower paced, but it's
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: not even 2001 slower paced. Like it's a weird mixture
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of all of the things and a bunch of new
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: stuff we haven't seen before and working Ripley in that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: you don't get female characters that good now. So the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: fact that in the seventies, you know, you're, you're being
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: handed Ripley. So it's, yeah, it's, it's an amazing movie overall.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: If they just listened to Ripley, they would have been
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: home and time for dinner.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Jonesy. the only one he's like well i'm sticking with
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: this lady i don't really care about her because i'm
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: a cat so like i still barely acknowledge that she
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: does anything right anyway but she's smarter than the rest
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of you idiots so but yeah it's it's pretty well
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: put together and uh like i said detail oriented and
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: goes into stuff that like there are so many aspects
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that come into play that you like don't even think
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: about now that it's like compounded with all these years
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of like the fact that so much of it is
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like the labor force and like the split between the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: two working class guys and like the upper class is
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: like you know your captain and your science officers are
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: a different class of citizen almost than your two guys
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: working down in the you know loading trucks like that's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: essentially what they're doing so that that's interesting that he
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: kind of digs into that a little bit. And then
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: all of the, like the last half of it is
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: mostly just leading into the table scene of just like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we really don't even get that much into
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: the last half of the movie. It's mostly just like
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: leading up to Kane and the chest burster.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Again, that's almost the shower scene of this movie. It's
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: just like, yeah, everything changed is in the movie. And
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: from cinema moving forward, after you see, That happened. It's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: just like it changed everything. So yeah, I mean, it's impressive.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Like it's really well put together. And I don't know
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: how accessible it is because it was like a weird
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: disc that I don't even know where it came from. Okay.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It seemed like maybe it came out of something else,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: but it had its own like sleeve, but it doesn't
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: even mention the director by name on the... Interesting. On
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: the paperwork in the front of the disc. I'm just like,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it mentions the other movies he did. It's like from
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the director of, but it doesn't give his name.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, weird.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Where did this come from?
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Do you know how you found the disc or did
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: it just show up?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I bet that would be impressive in and of itself.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I did get it in a store. Granted, it was
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a secondhand store, so I don't know where it came from, but.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: It's a place that I go that usually has really
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: cool discs.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: You can still get magical things from secondhand stores.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: That's usually where I get stuff anymore. It's rare that
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I buy. I bought one new movie lately. Also because
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I'm poor, as previously mentioned. So I get them as
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: cheap as I can. Oh, I hear you. But yeah,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: there's maybe one new recent re-release. And even that was
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: during a specific time when it's 50% off, which probably
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: everybody knows when that is. Yeah. Because there's a set
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: type of movies that super geeks find to buy at
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: a specific time of year. Anyway, other than that, yeah,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I try to keep it to a minimum now because
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I can't afford to buy them. And I don't know
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: where I'm going to put them when I come home
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: and I stack them in a pile that takes up
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: a place where we would record right now. So, yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this is life. So, yeah, there's two different movies that
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: are both definitely worth watching.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: You said 7258?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Was the chair that's the psycho and is yeah 72
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: slash or no 78 slash.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: 52 78 52 is.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: The the psycho one that is definitely worth watching it
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: is hardcore and has a ton of like talking head
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff of like everybody that came afterward that
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: was influenced by it is yeah so it's a ton
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of that stuff and then the the alien one has
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: some of that but it also has a good amount
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of specific stuff that they pulled from the cast interviews
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: at the time. So you get like, again, we've lost
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: most of that cast in the last few years, it
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: seems like. Yeah, it's got stuff from the time, but
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: then it also has like a couple of weird scenes
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that were like shot for this. Because in the beginning,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: it like opens with this thing that I'm like, I
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: don't even know what I'm looking at here. And it's
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: a weird scene. And I'm just like, what the hell
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: is this? And then eventually, like you don't even know
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: initially what, Later it gets worked into part of the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: overall story. And I'm like, oh, he went and shot
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: this whole new thing just because it ties into the,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: you know, the theme of what they're talking about down
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the line. I was like, so yeah, just occasionally he
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: puts in these weird little flourishes as like a weird
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: filmmaker that still wants to do normal filmmaking, kind of,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: but also is just so invested in documentary that that's
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: what he does. So yeah, he's an impressive documentarian. So neat. Yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: definitely worth checking out. All right, speaking of sci-fi classics,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: are we ready to get to this?
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: On a world gone mad.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: According to my divinations and calculations, Mars is about to run.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Out of air.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: This is serious.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: When I'm there, what will we breathe?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: A desperate plan.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Call for the Lobster Man!
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Lobster Man from Mars. What began as a harmless vacation
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: became two young lovers' outer space nightmare. Then just what
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: do you think, Professor?
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I am convinced that the only kind of life that
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: could survive on Mars would be a giant clam.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Now you are mine!
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Deborah Foreman.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Okay, you win.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Come and get me, lobster.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Patrick McNee.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I've suspected for some time that Mars has been suffering
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: from a severe air leakage.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Billy Barty.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Now let's join hands so that our physical contact may
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: prove a contention. of our spiritual energy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: And Tony Curtis as Sheldrake.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: It's the greatest movie I've ever seen in my life.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: What action. What passion.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's great.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: A film by Stanley Sheff.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Peek-a-boo! Lobster Man from Mars.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: One lobster tale you won't want to miss.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Since we've slightly changed gears, this maternity leave sofa theater
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: feature is Lobster Man from Mars. The year is 1989.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: The director is Stanley Sheff, and the plot, according to IMDb,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: A movie mogul in search of a tax shelter screens
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: a space parody about a young woman, a mad scientist,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and a space monster. I guess. That is.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Accurately misleading.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little simplified, and technically there's kind
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: of two space monsters, or four, or there's other things
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that come into play, but. It's close enough, we'll say.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, we're about to ruin the hell out of this.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: So hopefully you've gone and watched it. It's actually free
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: if you know where to look for it. So it's YouTube.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Because it wasn't, as I told you when I sent
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you the day before, I was like, if you go
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: to your streaming service, because I think I Googled and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: it came up like it was available, a whole bunch
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: of free streaming stuff, I assumed. I mean, if this
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: isn't on Tubi, what is Tubi for? It didn't show up.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So I was just like, well, hell, maybe we're not
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: watching this this week. But I thought it mentioned something
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: about YouTube. It was like, this seems like it would
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: be on YouTube. And yeah, if you go there, it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was just.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: A lot of people have posted varying degrees of picture
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: quality of.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the one I watched was pretty good, but then
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I saw another one that looked like they had pointed
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: their video camera at the screen of a TV that
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: was running an old VHS copy, so it was like
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: layers of not so great.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: That was the first one I tried to watch.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was like, look for at least
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a version, because there's at least one that I ran
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: across that was pretty good quality. Yeah, it's out there.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't even search on the Roku, I just
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: followed your advice and went straight to the YouTubes.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I put it in expecting like multiple of all
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: your different, there's so many different weird free public domain
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: stuff kind of movies. In fact, that's what I got
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: myself in trouble the beginning when I looked for it
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't there. I'm scrolling down and it brought
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: up all these other bad schlocky sci-fi horror movies that
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I was just like, Yeah. Because it's just the posters
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: and the VHS old box art going by. And I'm
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: just like, I want to watch all of these.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: So that was like a 10 or 15 minute window
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of like, damn it. We don't have time for all
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: of these. We got to watch one this week. Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: We've talked about this a little bit before. Man, that
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: old school VHS box art was.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: It's magic, man. It's so good.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there was a school where they
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: taught that or what, but my God, they suckered me
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: in every time.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: When some of these are sold, it was like old
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: one sheets, which again, they used to do really good
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: movie posters. Yeah. And then... It was post 80s. The
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: DVD era is when we got the slapped together Photoshop.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Here's some heads next to each other that we.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Well, it's always your male lead and your female lead.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: And they're standing back to back and looking at the
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: camera like, oh, aren't we cute?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: There's that. That became like a go to even for
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: the posters at one point. But then after that was
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: the like DVD reissued. I'm not going to bother using
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the VHS art. We're going to. Again, once they figured
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: out what Photoshop was, it's just like floating heads slapped
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: next to each other. Not even from the same movie sometimes.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Like it's just so badly thrown together. I'm just like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: what is this nonsense? So those are an atrocity. So yeah,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: looking back at the old artwork, even the old school
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: one sheets, I'm like, those are amazing. Like I'll take
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: those any day of the week.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: But so.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I almost got sidetracked and didn't get
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to the movie but eventually and luckily i did because
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: i think i'd looked at the rundown when i because
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: i i sent a message to you a couple days
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: ago i was just like i'd never seen this trailer
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: before i think i'd heard the title yeah but i
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: don't think i'd seen the trailer because if i had
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: i probably would have already watched this because i was
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: just like this looks fun and cheesy and it knows
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: it's cheesy but not so cutesy that it's annoying kind
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: of cheesy like it's not winking at the camera too
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: much which is arguable once we get into the movie
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: but um i was like it at least looks fun
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: so i was like this looks like the kind of
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: thing we could do and would have fun with so
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: but i think i forgot some of the cast until
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: i got in there and then the credits started rolling
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: up and i was like billy bardy.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I'm sold yeah yeah and waited the The whole damn movie. Anyway,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: we'll get into that.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they got most of their
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: names in it for a lot of time. Outside of
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Deborah Forman. Which she lost a bet or something.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: Must have. Yeah, I had never heard of this until
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: you suggested it the other day, but I was like,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: with a title like that, this is definitely right up
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: my alley.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, and we already get Rock Lobster right off
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the bat.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Which, that confused me. It's like, how did this movie
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: afford that?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was early enough. I mean, that was
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: before your Tin Roof Rusted era. So they were still
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: probably cheap-ish.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I could see at that time, whatever
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: the lead singer's name was, I could see him.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Being a dork? Yeah, I could see him being.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Ready to jump on the chance for a movie like
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: this to lend their music to it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: They're pretty awesome.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: They're amazing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Over the years, there's other stuff that they've done, but
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: then I will just go back sometimes and look at
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the weird stuff in the beginning.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's so strange.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I go back and like on your Googles,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like just go and find them when they first appeared
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: on SNL. And I'm like, I mean, SNL was already
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: like no freaking rules back in the day anyway. So
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: like the people that were up at midnight on a
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Saturday watching whatever nonsense they were doing on sketch comedy, like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: and then this comes up and it's just them. Like
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: they're just them and microphones and like, the girls are
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: doing their weird high-pitched screaming, and Fred's doing his, like,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: everything he did, and then they're playing this awesome riff,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, there's so many weird things going
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: on at one time, and then at some point, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: think Fred starts doing some sort of weird theatrics, and, like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: it's just, I think he falls down, and, like, kind
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of in your, like, your James Brown sort of performance of, like,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He just can't go on. The rock is too much.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a couple of them because there's
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: a few other songs later that I've seen that are
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: them kind of at that era doing weird theatrics in
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: the middle of the song also happening. Yeah, they're an
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: amazing band. The fact that we even get just a
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: few minutes of Rock Lobster throughout the movie. Yeah, it's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: pretty awesome.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Of course, right away, I didn't pay attention to the credits.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: It popped on played I did catch Billy Barty's name
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: I was excited about that but then right there in
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: the opening scene I'm like I'm like what favor did
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Tony Curtis owe to somebody.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Did you see the answer to that question no okay
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: well then let's jump to that now because at the
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: end here I've got some notes but that since you're
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: posing the question in his autobiography Tony Curtis said that
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: he worked on the movie because they paid him $ 100, 000
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and he needed to make child support payments He also
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: mentions that during the production, he never saw the scenes
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: of the movie that his character was reacting to.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I do believe that.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: So he's just saying random things, not looking at anything,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and he needed to pay chops for it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: He got a pretty decent paycheck for his little time
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: that he's actually in it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: For this movie, that's a decent amount of money to
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: pay one actor.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have thought.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: The whole movie cost $ 100, 000. Yeah, I mean.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: So right away, though, the setup, you know, when his
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: accountant or whatever is like, yeah, you need a movie
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: that's going to lose money. I thought, okay, we're getting
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: a producer's type thing.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Sci-fi producers.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: And you kind of are. You're getting a movie within
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: the movie, but I don't understand what the point of
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: them making the movie be like that was. Like, just not...
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: why don't you just give us the movie that we
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: spend all of our time watching anyway?
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Cause at least in the producers, that's just like a
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: snippet of it. Your springtime for Hitler isn't the whole movie,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: you know? So it's just like, we cut to that
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to be like, Oh God, what is this? Yeah. Where
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: if we did that for like 15 minutes of this runtime, okay,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I could see. And the rest of it was built
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: around the Tony Curtis and this guy. But like, No,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: like 90% of it is just us watching the movie
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that they're watching. So it is interesting that we've sort
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: of bookended it like that. this, I guess, maybe just
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to work in Tony Curtis for a day of shooting.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I really, the only other thing I could
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: think of is the runtime on the actual movie was
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: so short that, I don't know. Maybe.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: The only other thing I can think of, and this
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: is why when I saw the trailer, I responded to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: it well in my normal geeky fashion. I was like,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: it looks like they're having fun making it. Like you
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: get to the special effects of the guy like disintegrating
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: and his eyeball popping out. I was like, oh my God,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. And it looks super fake, but I don't
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: care because it's awesome. So I feel like that also
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: gives them license to do that the entire movie. Because
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: then it's not like, oh, our movie's bad. It's this
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: guy's movie's bad.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: So that kind of gives you free reign to be like,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: look how cheesy this guy's movie is. Not our movie.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: We're commenting on how cheesy this guy's movie is.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: The thing is, if the movie, the actual Lobster Man movie,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: existed on its own, I still would have watched it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: And I do, I will give it credit because it is,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like 95% of your like sixties. They
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: came from outer space type movie.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: It's yeah. It's, it's only kind of doing a comedic
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: take on that as much as it's just sort of
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: doing one of those movies like in an own, in
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: its own weird earnest version of it. Really?
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's, there's some things that were funny, but
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: then I realized it's like, no, you've, That's funny because
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: you're so accurate to your source material. And then there's
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: other things that were funny because they were silly, like
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: where he's talking on the phone and you hear the
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: background music and the lady's like, can you turn that down?
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: And it pans down to a tape recorder.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: The music gag was funny. I like that.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: The guy with his thing, this is the one, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I realized that with this director, the little bit I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: dug into him, I'm just like, there's a fine line
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: with his comedy.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Then I'm like, there's a point where I genuinely think
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: what he's doing is funny and he gets the references
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: and the jokes and like is doing the kind of
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: comedy that other geeks like him will appreciate. And then
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: he's like also one of those guys that's what if
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I beat this horse a little bit longer?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: And it's just not funny anymore. And like that guy
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: with his dumb like film noir references is. I'm like, no,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I actually like those movies. So again, like you're making
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: the references to the kind of person who will get them,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: but it's also not funny. So you're just sort of
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: going back to that. Well, every time, like the third
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: or fourth time he comes in to do it, I'm like,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: does this character serve a purpose? And he kind of doesn't.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: He really doesn't.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: He's just there to make that joke. Four or five times.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I get it.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: The third time he made the I have a hunch joke. Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I thought it was funny, but not like rolling on
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: the floor funny. But then by like the seventh or
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: eighth time, I'm like, this is just getting.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: eventually he comes into play at the end when you've
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: almost forgot about him as a character, because he's not
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: really a character.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest with you. I forgot about
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: him several times.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he came back during the wrap up and
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, what, why is he here? Cause we
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: could have done this without him. Like, I don't think
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: he brings anything in that's super important. They make him
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: bring something in that's important, I guess, but like it
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: could have easily been any other character standing there that
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: said this line. So why is he here? So, Some
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: of that I think is just that little taking the
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: joke too far type of humor that he likes because
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I did check into some of his other stuff and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: there's something he did right after this that's like a,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: it was like on TV I think and it's a
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: parody of like news shows and doing like fake commercials
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: which is its own thing and like if you can
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: do that it's really funny.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. One of them was super short
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and it was like a fake commercial and I'm like, oh,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: that was actually pretty funny. And then it cut to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: this next bit and I'm like, all right, already, like
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: we're 30 seconds in and I'm tired of this joke.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: So like he's, he's like skating that line the whole time.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: And I think luckily most of this movie falls on
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the good side of like, I think it's just sort
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: of fun and I'm enjoying what he's doing. Yeah. But
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: you can see those moments like the, the film noir
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: guy that I'm just like, nah, now you're taking it
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: to a bad place, like a bad version of this
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: type of comedy.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: I've got nothing against a good callback. If it's well done. Yeah,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: if it's well done. And as you know, I like
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: ridiculously stupid things. Again, if you can tell somebody put
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: effort into making this stupid and it actually comes off,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: then fine. I can even be a fan of the
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: beating the dead horse joke.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Some of them.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Some of them.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Some of them. Sometimes they really rub me the wrong way. Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: And there's some people that just lean on that.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: How many episodes of The Family Guy? I'm like, okay.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: All of them.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I know that's what you're doing. You know that's what
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you're doing. So at what point are you just doing
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it to annoy people? Right. It's that type of like, okay,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: now it's not really fun for anybody. You're just kind
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: of getting off on sticking it to people. So yeah,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that's its own weird like you're just doing it for
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: your own sick purposes, the creator of whatever this is.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: So that I get tired of. But most of this,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I think, falls on the good side of like, if
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: you're the type of geek who would be watching this movie,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: you get the references, you enjoy the references, you enjoy
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the cheesiness of everything, and that's why you're watching it.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. I don't think if you're not into
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: the sort of movie that this is, I don't know
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: if it's parodying it or if it's paying homage to it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Rip it off. Whatever it's doing. If you were a,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: if you were, you don't even have to be a
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: super hardcore, but you have to have, you have to
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: know enough to be like, oh, I get this reference.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I get the reference. If you don't have that, you're
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: not going to enjoy this movie. This is not going
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: to be a movie you're just going to stumble on
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: and be like, oh, that was a good 90 minutes
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: of my time.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you're the kind of person who's
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: okay with watching Lobster Man from Mars as the title
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: of your film, you get it.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Even if you're a hardcore sci-fi fan, they're not going
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to make a serious movie that's titled that. Certainly not
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: in the 80s. Maybe in the 50s or 60s they
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: could have tried that. But even then, it sounds a
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: little silly.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: I would watch that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I would still watch it.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: I would so watch a serious... lobster man from mars.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Movie because some of the ones they are referencing are
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: that silly and they were trying to be somewhat earnest
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: robot monster so when we get to our character that's
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: a total ripoff and or homage to robot monster i'm
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: just like yeah and they weren't really trying to be
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: funny i don't feel like they just had no budget
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: yeah this was their alien and that's what they did
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: and they were like they just kind of didn't care
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: they were just like we gotta turn out a picture.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Like, this is our sci-fi movie. This
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: is our sci-fi budget. This is what we're sci-fi doing. So, yeah.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: So there are ones in the 50s and 60s that
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: are a little silly of this type. Sure. And take
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: themselves seriously. But, that is not this movie. And I
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, if you're tuning in to watch Lobster
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Man from Mars, you kind of know that.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: You have to know what you're getting, yeah.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: And you're okay with it from the get-go. Now, whether
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: or not, you know, some of this crosses the line
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: is a personal case-by-case basis.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: But, Well, I feel like there's people who would see
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: the title. I don't even know if they'd read the
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: title all the way through before they're like, no, screw that.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: And then there's people like us.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: The other thing that for me, like puts it in
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: perspective is, and it's weird that I was just thinking
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: about this character completely unrelated to this like a week
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: or two ago. But when we get to the narrator
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, if you're the kind of dork who's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: watching this movie, you're also the kind of dork who
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: knows who Dr. Demento is.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Right. Well, I didn't realize that was him until.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: So when the voice kicks in, I'm just like, oh, yeah,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: this is the same crowd. Yeah. If you're watching this movie,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: you're also the dork that was up at like 1130
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: on a Sunday night waiting to hear a weird parody
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: record that no one else in the country was going
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: to care about, except the dork sitting around the radio
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: at that specific time. That is such a lost era.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, it really is.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And I was that dork. And I was, for some reason,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I guess, I think I saw something with Weird Al
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: and like he worked so much with Dr. Demento over
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the years that like, I think that triggered it. And
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell happened to Dr. Demento?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: And he's still out there.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: He's still out there. His show was on for a
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: long time.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, he was doing that show. And then I
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: think he had like another variation that, I don't know
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: if he was doing like something online eventually. I don't remember, but. Yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: he was still doing it for years before he finally,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I think, semi-retired now.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was such a... And I feel like such
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a touchstone for geeks. Like, if you're that kind of geek,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: which again, much like the conversation earlier of crossover of
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: movies and music and just being an overall dork, like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: this is all of your things. Like, it is geeky
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: references and weird parodies and like, only... Like, if you're
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: the kind of dork who goes to school and talks
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: about this, they're probably going to pick on you.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Unless you find the one other kid in your school
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: that was like, dude, did you hear last night when
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: they played My Bologna? That was great. Like, so there's
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: the handful of other kids that were like, that got,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: so that's the thing. Now, when it's years later and
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: you can use the internet or you're at a convention
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: and like the geeks find each other, like they all
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: have the same base. Like we all grew up doing
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and watching and listening to the same things, but everyone
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: was so fragmented back then.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: Well, it was really, I mean, stuff like that, it
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: was really cool because it felt like you discovered it
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: on your own. Yeah. And then if you found somebody
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: who had similar tastes and you could swap, you know,
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: information with, I mean, that was such a cool thing.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: At the time, I didn't. Like, when I first started
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: listening to it, like, it was just me. It was...
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: It was just me.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: I lucked out. I met a guy in high school
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: who I'm still friends with to this day that... You know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: he knew the song Fish Heads, which was a staple
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: of Dr. Demento.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: As another dorky tie-in on a regular basis, because on
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: my social medias, I follow Billy Moomy. And, like, again,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: somebody is still out there being cool. Like, he just
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: put out an album.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Like, he's still, like, he's got grandkids now, but he
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: still put out another album that I think is a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: little more serious songwriting type of stuff. But, like, he's still...
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: plays music. He's still like constantly posting old photos. So
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: he like, doesn't have a problem with the fact that like, yeah,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: this was the kid actor I was. And like, I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: was in, he's in everything. Like you go back and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: look at anything from that era. If there's a kid
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: in it, it's like, if, if they couldn't get Ron Howard,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: it's him. Like those two were like the only working
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: kid actors for a long time because everything has them
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: in it. So, yeah, it's, like, between the two of them.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: And he keeps posting pictures of, like, look at this
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: thing I was in. Look at this thing I was in.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: It was just, like, he, like, has embraced his geeky,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: you know, upbringing.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And then, like, he had so many eras. It's, like,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: he's lost in space. He's fish heads. He's, like, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: every 10 or 12 years he does a new weird
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: super dorky thing and, like, is, again, now, I think,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: super cool. But, like, at the time, you're the kind
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of weirdo that knows what fish heads is, like, you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: better hope you find your friends because nobody else cares
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: and everybody else would say you're insane for listening to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: this song.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's, yeah, I was having a weird Dr.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Demento flashback recently and it was funny that it was
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: before this and then I watched this and I was like, yeah, there, exactly.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: This director is that kind of dork. This is the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: kind of guy who's drawn to weirdos like Dr. Demento
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: and we all gather around and watch things like Lobsterman.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: But otherwise, yeah, yeah. I don't know what Debra Foreman
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: did to deserve this.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Because she's kind of coming off of like, you know,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: she was never like super mainstream, but like her indie
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: cult kind of hits at the time are like 80s classics.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: So like the things that she was in, like people
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: really like got into. And maybe more so in retrospect,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: I think it may be found it's like, crowd on
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: VHS and like even years later I feel like even
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: now there's people that are way more hardcore fan base
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: on like Valley Girl than when it was released like
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a big hit even as
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: the cult status at the time I think it took
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: years of people finding it before it got to.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: That level yeah because I've talked to people about Valley
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Girl and it's like you know how do you know
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: about this movie why.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Do you know about this movie And how do you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: not know that E.G. Daly is the coolest person on Earth?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know. She's so cool.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Again, another person who's just done nothing but cool things
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: her whole life.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Everything you're in is awesome. You have three or four
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: different careers. They're all amazing. So, yeah. Just cool people.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: That's what I like to find in these weird projects. Yes.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And that's usually what ties it all together.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, there's plenty of weird
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: little moments throughout it that you can go through, but
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like more of it is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: just the weird tie-ins and the geeky references. I mean,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: we do get to a chestburster scene, which was a...
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: That's why I was like, yeah, I'm going to go
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: ahead and talk about origin because... You definitely get a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: full-on homage to Alien that then, oh, but these guys fly. Right.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: And have googly eyes that look around in different directions.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: Which, first of all, adorable.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: I want a flying Martian lobster bat thing or whatever
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Space bat number two.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Which was one of the credits at the end. I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if they referenced space bat
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: number one, but I think when he's on the phone,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: he credits himself as space bat number two. Those guys
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: are pretty awesome. Yeah. So again, these are the things
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: that if you're okay with this dark shadows bat flying
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: going around that looks super fake and that's why you're there,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: this is the movie for you.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: There was one scene I noticed where one of the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: space bats was floating around. And not only could you
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: see the string hanging from... Which, to their credit, they actually.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Most of the time, you don't.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: It seemed like they did a pretty good job of
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: covering that up. But there's one shot where you can
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: see it a little bit. And then in the background,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: you can actually see the shadow of the puppeteer up
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: against the wall. I'm like, if that's an accident, I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: get it. But if they did that on purpose, that's genius.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Classic. That's what that is. Yeah. The ship going down
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: and the ship flying, which is very Flash Gordon-y. Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: But then you get the things like the... So that
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: landing in the cave and them going in the cave
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: is like six or eight different sci-fi movies. All of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: that's pretty close to just parodying very specific things. But
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: then you have stuff that's more modernized, but pretending to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: not be modernized. And that is the joke when we
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: get to them with like, why don't you go make
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: us some tea there, little lady? I was just like,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: all right, this is very modern era looking back and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: making fun of these like chauvinistic bastards. So like that
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: was more commentary wise. Again, I don't know that they're
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: that much more enlightened at that era, but they are
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: at least calling attention to the fact that it is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: the way that it would have been in the fifties
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: and sixties.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: And at least her character did call them out on
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: their bullshit on that after a certain point.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: She still kept, and it's funny that, like, she figures
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: out the way to kill them, and they're like, aha,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: and they just take it and run. They're like, okay,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: now go make us some more tea, honey.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: Which, let's, okay, so, yeah, that's one of the dumbest,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: here's how we kill the big bad I've ever seen,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: but I love it for that reason. Which is pour
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: boiling water on it.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he's a lobster man. He is a lobster.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Totally makes sense. I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: But it's just, we can't have soldiers running around with
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: pans of boiling water. It'll cool down first.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: But what if we had hundreds of soldiers? Oh, well,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: now it's a good idea. Sure.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: But I've never seen a boiling lobster disintegrate like that.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: They just usually.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: It would totally nullify the whole meal plan if you
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: lost your lobster in the process of making your lobster.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Put lobster in boiling water and it just turns delicious
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: at that point.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a lobstery person. Occasionally. I did,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: in searching for this, before it popped up in the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: title list, Lobster mac and cheese kept coming up, which
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I have to say, that one was like, all right,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not what I'm looking for, but no,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: it's kind of what I want.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: It was really weird as I'm sitting there typing into
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: the YouTubes the title of the movie one letter at
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: a time because I'm doing it on my remote, so
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: I've got to search around. But I'm sitting there, and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I type in lobster, and all sorts of
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: stuff about lobster pops up. I type in man, you know,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Lobster Man, nothing pops up. And I keep thinking any
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: minute now something's going to pop up as I get
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: closer to the end of the title. Nothing popped up
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: until I hit search, which had me very worried that
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: it's like this movie just doesn't exist anywhere.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Which is kind of true until you find that one
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: little strain. You find it, yeah. But all the way
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: up until there.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Lobster M.A. And you're still like mac and cheese mac
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: and cheese mac and cheese. I'm like alright fine. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: mean I'll have some mac and cheese. I also have
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to watch this movie you know.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: That does sound good.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not arguing. If somebody wants to get me
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: some mac and cheese I'm all for that. There are
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: random things. Lobster man like going to the girl's showers. Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Was that just For the sake of going to the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: girls' shower. But we don't even play the card of like,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: it's the 80s and we want to have some T
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: & A in this movie. Because we don't. It's just
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: girls running around in towels.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: Which is still appreciated on my end.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: I guess. But it doesn't even accomplish the thing you're
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: usually doing in an 80s movie at that point. So
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, and it goes away immediately. Like it's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: that one scene and then we go to a whole
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: nother thing. And I was just like, that was random.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: And we don't know his weakness yet, but why would
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: he go to a place that's full of hot water?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like a good plan. So there's those things
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: that don't make sense. Then there's other moments that are
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: like genius level when we're talking about the flying bats.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: when they're like trying to kill the one in the
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: room and they're like, it's, it's silly enough that it's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: flying and it looks like it's on a string, but
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: when they can't find it and then it pops up
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: over that guy's shoulder. Yeah. Again, I'm a sucker for
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: some cheesy puppetry and like that just popping up and
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: looking around shot. I was like, Oh my God, that's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: so funny.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: So those are the moments I'm like, yeah, this is
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: why I'm here, man. That lobster on your shoulder, man.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: That is, that is genius.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: This movie, definitely had its moments where it's like I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: can get on board with this.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: So we do get Billy Barty in a turban yeah
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: I do that's an era again when it's like just
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: sort of randomness when we like then take a left
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: turn into the spooky old house again just to work
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: in a different type of old cheesy movie I guess
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: like we just wanted a spooky old house segment for
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: no real reason because then we're also going to blow
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: up the house so It completely goes away eventually, very quickly.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: But I do like him having fake hands so everyone
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: closes their eyes and he can still pretend to hold
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: their hand while he does whatever shenanigans he pulls off.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now I want a Billy Barty as a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: fake medium movie. And I know it's too late to
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: get one of those.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't... I don't push for CG, but
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: at this point, you can kind of do anything. That's true.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I have seen Peter Cushing in the real world pretend.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: He did a whole scene, a whole movie based around
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: his character, so I guess we could have a bad
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: CG Billy Barty in a turban the whole movie. I'm
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: not pushing for that really, but I'm saying you never
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: know what you're going to get.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not pushing for it, but I don't think I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: would turn it down either.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess like I'm always like up for
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: like if you if you can't do anything in regular shooting,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: like actual animation is an interesting take. So some hand
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: drawn Billy Barty in a turban animation. I'd be all
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I'd watch that.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we can find somebody with a close enough
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Billy Barty voice to do the voice work. Yeah.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: I always get so excited when I see his name
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: come up in. in credits for some reason.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Again, this says a lot about me at, at this
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: same point in time, while I'm listening to Dr. Demento,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I'm also like any movie that has Billy Barney and
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I'm thrilled with it.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: So that's just, yeah, that's once again, in a nutshell,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: this is a lot of me.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't figure out what it is that
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: excites me.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: I think just cause he's so damn cool.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: He is cool. And he's, um, You know, I'm more
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: familiar with his work as an old man actor.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was too, really.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: You know, but at the same time, it is cool
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: to see at least one of the munchkins getting work.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: He was, I would say, the most successful. I think so.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Definitely of that era. Like, he was... the hardest working
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: little actor out there. It's like he got most of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: the roles. If you had money, you would see other
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: guys sometimes. Every once in a while, you'd see a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: girl of that era. But for the most part, yeah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: if they were going to work somebody in and you
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: had a decent budget, get Billy Barty on the phone.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: So that was, yeah, that was pretty standard of that era.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: I think the only movie from that time period with
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: little people that he's not in is Time Bandits.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, surprisingly. all the other cool guys are in time.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, man, that's a great movie.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: That's such an awesome movie.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Terry Gilliam's an amazing filmmaker anyway, but that's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: like to be that early in his, his resume. Like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: it's so good.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: That is like, it's so far up there for me.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: Pretty much that and fear and loathing, which is a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: totally different type of movie for him. Those are, that's
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: like the only movie of his that I can, sit
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: there and watch all the way through and be entertained
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: the entire time and not be like, what is going
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: on here?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: We're again, off on a tangent, which is pretty regular
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: for us. I will maybe top of the list almost
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: every time. And it's, it's back and forth with time bandits.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: 12 monkeys is genius.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Well, I keep forgetting about 12 monkeys.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: It is so well put together. And so like, again,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: so that's later, like that is so polished and perfectly
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: orchestrated as a movie. You can see the strings for
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Time Bandits sometimes. It's still so early on in his
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: budget and special effects hadn't quite caught up yet to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: what he wanted to do. He did it anyway because
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: he didn't care. But yeah, that's just so polished that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I love that one. I like watching all
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: of his stuff because he's such a weird, interesting filmmaker.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: I don't always like the movies, but him as a filmmaker,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I'm always interested in. He's always an interesting filmmaker.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: Because what he comes up with is Yeah. Unbelievable, but.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: And weird sometimes.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Sometimes the execution of it is just a little much.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Well, he's also cursed. Dude cannot get a movie off
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: the ground without almost killing himself.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Every time. Because I thought it was just like, oh,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I've heard horror stories about this movie and the horror
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: story that is the Man of La Manche thing that
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: he worked on for half of his life. But then
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I watched, again, Physical Media Dork. I have the... I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: think it was the old DVD of 12 Monkeys. And
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: there's a whole behind the scenes stuff on that. And
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: it almost killed him. Everything went wrong on that too.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: So the fact that it turned out as well as
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: it did is amazing. Because every movie seemed to just
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: go horribly wrong. And yet sometimes he would turn out masterpieces.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Little person side tangent that led us to Terry Gilliam. Anyway.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: Sounds about right for this show.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Billy Barty.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: Love me some Billy Barty.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He's pretty great. Trying to think if there's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: other specific stuff we should address.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I did something I was thinking about watching the movie.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know how the kid who made the movie
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: within the movie pulled that movie off. Because he doesn't
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: seem cool enough to have any friends.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: No. Where does he know Deborah Foreman from? Because I'm like, no,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: she would not even talk to you, dude. Like even
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: the fake in the movie version of her that we
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: don't even know her personality.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Still feel like she's out of your league as an
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: actress or just as a human being. So like, where
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: did you get her in this world within the movie? Yeah.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: So that's a little weird. We know his uncle gave
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: him the money is sort of what it sounded like
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: when mom's yelling at him at the beginning.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: He did say something about how one of his uncles was...
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: in the movie was the monster.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Guy yeah but still a little unlikely but yeah I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: mean I do we get like halfway in the movie
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: before we actually see Lobster Man we get a POV
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: the whole time I do like Mambo which is just
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a robot monster like he's just a gorilla with a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: old timey diving helmet on with some antennae and that's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: pretty awesome for me again that That's the bar of
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: the thing I'm looking for.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: In a movie. I've always been, even as a kid
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: I would see that and think, that's a cool monster.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Whereas all my friends who were too cool for those
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: sorts of movies were like, this is just dumb. I
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: don't know what it is. You put a robot head
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: on a gorilla and I'm in. I'm in.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I'm in. I've sold on it, but almost for the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: absurdity of it. Right. Because I, even as a kid,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: remember seeing that that first time and going, what made
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: you think this was a good idea?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I don't think it's awesome, kind of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: for a different set of circumstances. But when you're the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: guy with no money, like in this movie, and you're
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: just like, we need an alien. Now, what if he
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: was a gorilla body? Like, because you have a gorilla suit?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Is that the answer to this question?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. In a fictional world, what kind
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: of scientist puts that together?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: And then number two, what sort of set designer... How
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: desperate are you? It's like, we have to make this movie.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: We have an hour before filming is supposed to start.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: We don't have a monster. We have a gorilla costume
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: with no head.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Did they lose the head i don't know i don't.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Know that's because it seems to me like space gorilla
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: is also scary or even just.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Like diving suit yeah like anything like old space suit
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: that you found in a you know at a prop
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: shop from an old movie like just something else that
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: would also fit the diving helmet head you could be
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: like look they're from space but like It's a very
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: specific reference to go with gorilla suit body. And I almost,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: if you're out there and you want to support this idea,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: because I almost think we need an entire spinoff show.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: of every movie that worked as gorilla into a movie
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: that didn't really need a gorilla in a movie like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: there's a lot in the olden days you don't see
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: it as much now it just became a thing guy
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: in a gorilla suit was just in a third of
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: your movies that came out that year like there was
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: just a lot of guy in a gorilla suit.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: The fact that there's a movie with bella lugosi and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: a guy in a gorilla suit at least one possibly
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: two the.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Dead end kids don't they hang out with a guy
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: in a gorilla suit everybody at that era like eventually
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: did a whole movie based around the gorilla suit like
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: sooner or later we're gonna find a way to work
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: in this Edgar Allen Poe story and a gorilla suit.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: You just wait. It's just a matter of time till
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I find the crossover. So yeah, like there's just so
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: many things at that time that somehow you still get
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: a guy in a gorilla suit. And I'm just like,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: I want a list and I want to go through
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: the entire... Oh, boy. I'm telling you, it's a very
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: specific sub-genre of film that is just the kind of
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: thing that podcast dorks are looking for. So you let
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: me know, people out there.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: And I have to wonder, I have to honestly wonder
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: how many forgotten gems there are out there.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: That's kind of why I want to go down this
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole. I can think of a bunch of... And
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I bet I'm missing a whole other bunch.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: But I'm sure there's got to be something where you
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: sit down and watch it. And by the end of it,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: you're just crying from emotion that you felt for the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: portrayal of the guy in the gorilla suit.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what led us to King Kong. Although
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: that was mostly all stop motion. I don't know how
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: much we had Guy in a gorilla suit there.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's any, it's very, very little. But look
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: how awesome that movie is.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: You care about King Kong. So they learn from the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: very beginning, like, we care about this monkey. So I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: guess that's why we just keep going back to it.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's still true, like, of the, again, tangent
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: number 47, of the new cheesy Americanized version of the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Godzilla and Kong movies. Yeah. The thing that I feel
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: like is the through line that keeps pushing the plot,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: if you want to call it that, is the Kong
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: storyline in these last two. Godzilla just shows up and
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: it's cool because he's Godzilla. But you follow the story
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: of Kong. You register some sort of emotions of what
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Kong is going through that just doesn't read in the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: lizard suit. Somehow the monkey suit, granted now it's a
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: little more elevated in our special effects.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Quite a bit.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: But still, something about the primate version of that still
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: registers emotion where the reptile doesn't. Right. Like, dude, he
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: looks cool. But you don't quite get the emotion that
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: you do out of a monkey, and I don't.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because when they started making the new,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: at the time, you know, like the Bryan Cranston Godzilla movie.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is still technically all the same series.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: So many people... that I'd grown up with that would
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: make fun of me for watching the old school Godzilla
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: movies would say to me, you know, when, when there
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: was the then new Godzilla movies coming out, that would
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: say to me, we need a new Godzilla versus King Kong.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I know how I know about that,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: but how do you know about that?
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Once again, not, not that long ago in the last
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: year and a half, I bought that on Blu-ray.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Which I've then heard recently they were going to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: do another one. There was a whole follow-up that was
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: planned and I think the licensing fell through again.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Or the licensing actually went back. I think that's how
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: it happened the first time was licensing problems. They were like, yeah, sure,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: you can use that. Until they went, wait, no, no,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: you can't. Stop using Kong. But I think there was
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: another version planned that didn't happen and then they just
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: like Totally reused the script for another movie and just
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: subbed another monster in there.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: Good enough.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Toho doesn't care. They're just making money, man. They don't care. So, yeah.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: Other fun monkey-related movies that somehow still tie into this one.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you guys out there know of any, let
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: us know, please.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: This is such a, like, just... gumbo of sci-fi horror
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: references that like that's why we're going down 47 different
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: roads as we as we talk about this because each
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: one just reminds you of like oh because they're referencing
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: this oh because they're referencing that so the whole thing
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: is just a big stew of other movies from back
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: in the day and like again they're doing it lovingly
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: enough that like you don't feel like they're making fun
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: of those movies a hundred percent of the time they're
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: poking fun at how cheesy they are, but they're also
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: doing it, making fun of how cheesy the movie they're
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: making is. So like they know they also don't have
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: a big budget. So it's okay to make fun of
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: this one because we're also equally as cheesy is kind
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: of how it works out and kind of makes it
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: okay to make fun of it a little bit.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: But they almost did it a little too well.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: To the point where you're close to it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: The point where you're like, I'm not, I'm not, laughing
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: at this like i feel like they wanted me to.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I do like the evil bunnyman from neptune reference yeah
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: yeah because then i'm like where's that movie because that
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: needs to be the follow-up i would watch i would
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: watch the shit out of that which maybe we need
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: to start working on that screenplay right now.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: I think it should take us about 20 minutes to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: get me a napkin.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah I mean, I guess it is perfect that we
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: end up at Old Faithful by the end of it.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: That is the most logical way to take out a
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: lobster man.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was funny that Billy Barty lived
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: with Old Faithful in his backyard.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Like you do, I mean... Most guys that have a
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: spooky old house set it up right next to Old Faithful.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: I did like, and I wondered why they did it
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: at the time, but when they're driving down the highway,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: they show you the closeup of the Yellowstone Park sign twice.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: And I was like, that's weird that they would need
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: to show that to you again. But then I realized
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, well.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I see where we're headed.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Literally, we're headed to the park. The other weird choice
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: is their magical healing after they kill. I mean, I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: do like they find a way in a lot of
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: horror sci-fi movies to bring back our people. It's usually
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: like a vampire movie move of like, oh, if we
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: stake this guy, it saves all our other characters that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: we like that we lost earlier.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: If you can reverse the curse of a werewolf, a vampire,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: and to some degree a zombie, okay, sure.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Lobster man?
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: There's not a lot coming back from being just a skeleton.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: And yet they did. Because as annoying as the guy
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: was earlier sitting at the bar, which by the way,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: that was one of my specific comments, is like, I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: don't know that I want to eat at any diner
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: that has paneling. If you're in a food establishment that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: has wood paneling behind you, I'd be a little leery
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: of that. But that's just me. Not saying I didn't
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: grow up in a house with paneling, because that's why
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I have issues with it.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I know paneling real well, and I don't know that
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: I'm putting a five-star restaurant in paneling. But anyway, that
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: annoying guy with his baseball cap. I do really like
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the skeleton wearing the baseball cap. That kind of two
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: special effects of, and now there's a skeleton wearing his
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: baseball cap is pretty funny.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: Well, I did when we got to the end and
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: all the dead people come back to life. I was like, oh,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: this is going to upset Brian and his no stakes philosophy.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think more of than the people coming back,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: because again, we're we're showing you, oh, it's reversing all that.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, how do you come back from the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: house blowing up? Because, I mean, that's also what was
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: involved in the Billy Barty death. So I'm like, if
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: he is now magically back, where is his house? Does
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: it also magically bring his house back?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: But why? I mean, why does any of it come back?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Because if.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: The.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: Nothing before this led me to think that Lobster Man
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: was magical.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Space magic.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: And, you know, which I believe in.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Lobster magic.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: So I guess the thing that's the most weird about
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: the wraparound story is it also doesn't work. Like it's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: a success.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: And they make money. Yeah. So then the IRS shows
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: up to get Tony Curtis. So I'm like, what was
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: the point? That's the point when you're like, no, really,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: why did we do that? Like it'd be different if
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: it was, you know, actually did the thing it set
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: out to do and got him off and he got the,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: you know, not have to pay his second ex-wife or whatever.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: Or if, like, you know, we said earlier about the producers,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: you got to see the hijinks of them trying to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: destroy their own.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, we did for the whole run of the movie,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: I guess. Those are definitely some hijinks. So, yeah, I
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: don't know. It's a weird wraparound story.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Thankfully, we do get... another little snippet of Rock Lobster
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: really quick. That's true. And then it goes away and
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: we just go back to the orchestra music or whatever.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: And I will give the best credit is no lobsters
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: were harmed during this production, only eaten. It's just kind
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: of disturbing in its own right, but.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: at least there were no real lobsters in the movie.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we've just had the giant guy who
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: I was okay with is again, it was equally as
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: impressive as our robot monster. Yeah. Mambo. So it was
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: pretty cheesy looking, but in a fun way. So his
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: was fun.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: I was confused about why he had one human hand, though.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and like one eye different than the other eye.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: He was very Frankenstein-y for a monster that shouldn't have been,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: as far as I know. But I don't know. Who
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: knows what goes on in Lobster Guy world. So the
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: other interesting facts about it. First of all, okay, you've
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: seen this movie. I have.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: You know what type of movie it is.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, I definitely do.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: The fact that it had its world premiere at Sundance.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: In 1989, it had its world premiere at Sundance and
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: was nominated for the Grand Jury Prize. It did not
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: say it won, but the fact that it was nominated
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: for the Grand Jury Prize at Sundance is kind of surprising, actually.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: See, I....
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: But there's things about this movie where I'm almost... At first,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you got a couple of... You
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: got Tony Curtis, you got Billy Barty, you got a
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: couple people who are somewhat recognizable. It's like, maybe this...
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: It's like I could almost see if somebody was like...
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: Somebody a little bit more famous than the guy who
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: actually did make it was like, I'm going to make
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: this movie to have fun with it. Then stuff like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: that would make sense. But just, no.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, that guy had... He himself wasn't a household name,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: but he definitely had influential friends. Sure. Because, do you
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: know where this movie came from? This is definitely the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: most impressive part. Certainly more impressive than even the Sundance appearance. So,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: the reason we have this movie, Orson Welles came up
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: with the title.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: He had originally agreed to play the role of the producer,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: but he died before the production began. So he really
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: wanted to get out of it. Wow.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: That would have made that character so.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Different. So basically this, this director, in addition to being
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: the cheesy director that he is like, he also was like,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: cause he also did like a, his first, not even
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: full length feature, but the main first thing he did
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: that people like still kind of reference, um, he did
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: like a silent movie that he was trying to do.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Like again, his own updated version of a silent movie
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: that I think you can still watch on, by the way,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: there is a website for this movie still up and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: running functional. I went to it yesterday so you can watch,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: I think there's a link on there that you can
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: watch his silent movie that he made too. So he
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: was already doing like a retro version of, I'm going
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: to make an old timey silent movie. So there was
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: already that.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: So you telling me that makes me like this guy
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: even more just for the dork cred.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, he's definitely committed to the dorky things
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: that he likes, but he also like was really working
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: in the industry because he's an editor. Yeah. So like
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: he edited a lot of like, if you go look
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: at his editing credits, he had a lot of like legit,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: like mainstream, not just movie, but also just working in
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: television at the time kind of editing job. So like
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: he was a legit editor too. but was working on, like,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: I guess at some point met Orson Welles, but then
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: he was, he is the only filmmaker ever to share
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: co-directing credit with Orson Welles.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: Because he collaborated, edited, and acted in The Orson Welles
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Show from 1979, which was Welles' final completed work. So
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: I guess he met him, worked on that, At some
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: point along the way, they're talking about this movie, and
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Wells came up with this silly title and was like, sure,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: I'll do that. I mean, shit, he's in the Transformers movie,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: so he'll cash a paycheck. He doesn't care. But yeah,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: and before that happened, instead he died. So he really
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: just died. What do I have to do to get
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: out of this movie?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: Jeez.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'm out of here. But yeah, he
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: actually worked with Orson Welles. And I guess at the
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: end of there, probably wasn't doing a ton of stuff himself.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: To be fair to that guy, I've never worked with
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: Orson Welles.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So he's the only one that
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: shared directing credit with him on that last thing that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: I think they did for TV. So that's pretty impressive.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, of the many cool things about this movie,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: I think by the end, the details about it are
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: maybe more fascinating than the finished product. Yeah. Which I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: feel like we run into a lot in our movies.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But, you know, what are you going to do?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: The other sort of cameo that I don't know if
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: you noticed, in addition to, you know, the music legend
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: that is Dr. Demento, did you see who the person
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: was at the beginning when they're having their little, we're
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: running out of air, like that little conversation between.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: The King of Mars?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: King of Mars and the astrologer, astronomer, whichever he was. So,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Bobby Pickett. Oh! Monster Mash Bobby Pickett.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Huh!
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: That guy, which the way they bill it is like
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: he's both, which I didn't go back. Is he talking
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: to himself? Because they keep cutting back and forth. I
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: didn't notice. He may be talking to himself and doing
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: both roles because they credit him as The Martian astronomer
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: and the king of Mars or whatever he was. But
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They definitely have him doing, because they
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: say he's doing his Boris Karloff impersonation. Yeah. As he's
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: doing the Martian astronomer. So he's definitely the Martian astronomer
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: in this. Which again, how do you become friends with
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Bobby Pickett?
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: This guy's got the connections.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: What I've always liked about him is he, number one,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: the Monster Mash is a Just ridiculously good. It's fun.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: It's catchy. It's like I feel like it should be
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: played every day, not just on Halloween.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: I definitely second that emotion.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: But what I love what I love about him is
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: he came up with, as a lot of artists have done,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: came up with that one big hit that everybody knows
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: him for. And he was never shy about it. He
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: never tried to be like, I am more than this.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: I'm a serious artist.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: He leaned into the Monster Mash and has released, I
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: don't know how many versions and sequels of that song.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. As much as I love the Monster Mash,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: Monster's Holiday is not great.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: No, not at all.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: But the fact that he did Monster's Holiday just beat
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: that dead horse.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Also, I think the final version, are you familiar with
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: the rap version? No. As obviously he's around in the 80s.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the last version he did while he
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: was still around was a rap version.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: Well, you know.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: That became the thing in the era of rap and Rodney.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to get in on the rap game as
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: it became popular. I'm using quotes there, but popular in
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: ways that they didn't. No one involved in rap wanted
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: or ever asked for. Well, you know, it's... A lot
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: of rapping grannies out there at that point.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: It's funny when you take any sort of underground authentic
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: thing that somebody has worked really hard to create and
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: it starts to become mainstream. You get a bunch of
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 4: people who push it forward and... But man, when that
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: happened with rap, the people trying to push it forward
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: did not understand what they were working with at all.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it became just such a thing. When you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: can reference rapping grannies and be like, no, oh no,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: I forgot. That was.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: I forgot about the rapping.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Until I started down this road. I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, God, that was a thing, wasn't it?
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: It's such a weird set of references that came into
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: play at that point. But yeah, that was, I think,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: his last tie-in for that version.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: Did any legitimate, true rap artist ever use the phrase,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: and I'm here to say? Because every single one of
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: those rap and granny type things that came along in
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: the 80s, that was the second line of every song.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: They announced themselves, which was just polite.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty standard in rap. It's always about them.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: It's very self-referential and braggy, usually. I don't know if
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: the second line is here to tell you and say
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: what they're here to do. They usually do tell you that,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: Know if they word it that way. No, they have
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: an agenda that they get out. Part of it, I
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: get that.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: Since we've posed the question of the times that that
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: may have gone right in some capacity, of silly.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with 2 Live Jews?
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: No. In the era of 2.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: Live Crew, there became a parody album called Two Live
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Jews that I think me being the dork that I am,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: I think I got it from the library.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Because I'm super cool. And I went to the library
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: and got music and saw that and was like this scene.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: I think I'd heard the single, which is Two Live
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Jews and we're kosher as we want to be. Yes,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: feel free to Google that up too. But what was
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: funny is most of it is silly. I think there's
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: a Jewish American princess song. There's like several others. Each
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: one is like a variation of the type of stuff
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: that was going on either with 2 Live Crew or
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: just rap in general. Sure. But like somewhere in the
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: middle of that album, there's a track called Young Jews
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Be Proud. And it like does like a history of Judaism.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: And it's like, as best as I can tell, I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not schooled in any of this, but
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: like it was factual and like semi-serious in the way
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: it was delivering it and kind of worked as a rap.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: And I was just like in the middle of all
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: these jokey songs, you got to that track. And I'm like,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: this is actually kind of a good song.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't have happened had the rest of this nonsense not
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: come about so i don't know how much i'm gonna
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: stand by it if you go listen to it and
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: you hate it god you can let me know i
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: guess but i don't know but i just remember that
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: one being like huh they all of a sudden got
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: kind of serious for a minute so yeah.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: I've never wanted to find an album so badly.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Young jews be proud so There you go. That was
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: one of that era that I was just like, this
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: is a weird left turn that I didn't see coming.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's see. Back to more facts about this
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: ridiculous movie. There's also the tie in. There's tons of
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: tie ins, as we've discussed. We haven't even gone down
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: the road of many of them. So you'll reference them
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: when you watch it because you're a dork. But yeah,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: the J.P. Sheldrake. is named after the producer who turns
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: down William Holden's script in Sunset Boulevard. So that's the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: tie-in for the Tony Curtis of it all, I guess.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: I do like when they reuse the same geeky stuff
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: in other geeky movies. So supposedly the painting with the
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: moving eyes that's in the house when they go in
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: his spooky house is the same painting from Waxworks a
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: couple of years before.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: So I do like those kind of tie-ins.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: It's an odd movie, too. Yeah.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Not as odd as Waxworks 2 Lost in Time or
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: whatever time travel version Waxworks 2 became. I need to
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: revisit those because I remember almost nothing about them. But
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: I remember almost being more entertained with the second one.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: I know I haven't seen the second one. I don't know.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: I think every time I try to watch Waxworks, I
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: fall asleep at the exact same place. I even watched
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: it in a bar one time with a bunch of
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: other people and fell asleep.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: That's, that's impressive. Well, I have a couple of movies
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: that I do that with, but usually it's at the beginning. Yeah.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: There are a few that I haven't made it like
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: past the credits. It's like, here it comes and I'm out.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I've had that happen more than
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: once on the same movie. And I'm like, is it
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: the movie? Is there something like underlying in the score
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: that like, by the time we get to the end,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: it's like set my brain into motion of like, nope,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: you're sleeping now. I'm like, I don't know. I haven't
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: figured it out yet.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: It's strange.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this director, Earl Stanley, his first feature is
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: the one I was telling you about is Sinister Flesh.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: It is 1976 and it's a satirical black and white
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: horror film that's essentially trying to be its own silent movie.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the kind of dork that he was.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: One of the aliens, this was a reference I think
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: I noticed quickly, but yeah, they mentioned that one of
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: them is a Boglin, which was one of the toys
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: from the 80s.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: I know exactly what a Boglin was because I remember thinking,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: I have that somewhere, that exact puppet. And yeah, I
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: didn't mean to cut you off. Boglin, for those of
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 4: you not familiar, is a hand puppet from the 80s
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: that was just a little latex, creepy crawly looking creature.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: And they were a lot of fun.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: It was mostly round.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: Mostly round.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: Just kind of a head with some eyes. You could
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: kind of move them around a little bit, I feel like.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: You could move the eyes, yeah.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It didn't do much, but it was so creepy,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: it made up for it by being super cool and creepy.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: There were a lot of cool, creepy toys in the 80s.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: There really were. I approve of that. There are now,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: but they're a different kind of creepy toy. Now I'm
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: just looking at Labubu's going, what the hell's wrong with kids?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell Labubu is. I don't
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: know if I want to know. Oh.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: How did you miss that one? I feel like that's
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: come and gone already, but it took over the world
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: for a few minutes if you were the kind of
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: kid who cared about that crap.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: I think what happened was you introduced me to Skibbity Toilet.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. Ruined your life.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: That's entirely your fault. I feel like that would have
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: flown under my radar otherwise.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: And then since then, I've just shut my perception of
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: new toys off.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Whatever that new... fun dough thing is kids are like
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: lining up for this crap. Now I'm just like, it's
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: some sort of weird dough knockoff. Everything's gotta be a
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: slime knockoff now of like, but like there were paying
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: like a fortune for it. And I'm just like, what
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: is wrong with you? Like, stop letting your kids tell
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: you to buy this stuff for so much money. Cause
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: little boo-boos were going for a fortune when they came out.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, what is, when, I remember back
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: in the day, like you'd just, you'd either kill somebody
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: for a cabbage patch kid, or you'd tell your kids,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: you know what? You're not getting one this year.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: Tough luck.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: You just don't get one.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: You know, the, the toy that, that surprised me that
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: took off. And I saw one of these like about
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: a month before I saw them everywhere. And I thought, well,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: that's a fun little novelty that, I could see somebody
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: having fun with for like two minutes. It's a stick
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: of butter. Have you seen this?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like I heard about this.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: You can get a rubber stick of butter.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: What is wrong with children?
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: And that's all it is.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: Thing is, you'll probably recognize this. I didn't want you
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: to go through and not know what the hell a
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: labubu is. But you've probably seen it and just didn't
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: know that's what it was. Oh yeah, I've seen those.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: And those are cute. And I can kind of see it,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: but like people were ready to murder each other for
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: them and paying a small fortune to have. And the
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: fact that they came out with special little clothes for
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: them that people were paying a fortune for and like,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: My favorite was designers were making clothes. Like you could
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: get like, here's a Gucci onesie for them. That was
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: like Gucci made. Like that's why they were paying a
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: fortune for this kind of stuff. Like it was legit.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: So like above board that like real people were making
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: things to go along with it as a weird accessory
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: for it. I'm just like, you guys have lost your
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: damn minds.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Granted, I've paid a lot of money for stupid things.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: As someone who carried home a stack of RCA discs
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: last weekend, I understand buying stupid things, but I at
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: least try to keep it to a minimum. That's not
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: always true. I've paid way too much for stupid shit
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: in my time. But yeah, you got to pick which
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: dumb things you're going to pay way too much for.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: I bought a lot of stupid overpriced things that no
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: one else would understand. So I guess you pick and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: choose the dumb things you want to own. like lobster
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: man which you can get a copy of that's also
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: i noticed on their website you can order up i
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: think a fancy dvd of it i don't think they
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: go past dvd but it did have like commentary from
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: the director and like other weird specialty things that you
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: could get on their fancy dvds.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: Do they have merchandise or like Not much else.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: I think it was mostly, but there were several other options.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: There are, I did notice there, I think the director
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: is still out there because I think he's tied to this.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: I did notice there's like a theater that he used
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: to put on shows like back in the day. He
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: may still like own this theater because there's an upcoming
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: showing of this movie. at a theater like they still
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: do like in person I'm sure it's in LA but
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: like it's the only place you can have that kind
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: of theater that gets enough business that's true they stay
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: in business usually it's like maybe a handful of huge
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: cities maybe your weirdo Austin's kind of thing but like
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: for the most part if it's not LA rep theaters
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: don't survive and even there obviously they keep coming and
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: going so yeah it's hard to make anything work at
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: this point so yeah I was surprised they're still doing
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: in person showings of this so I'm only hoping people
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: show up in giant latex lobster man outfits.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I need to see this in
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: a theater or ever again.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: What if you were wearing a gorilla suit with a
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: bowl on your head?
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's likely that could be what I wear
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: to go down to the store. It's true.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past you.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, I would go see a movie dressed like that,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: or this movie dressed like that.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you wouldn't. It seems like it
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: would be fun to see with a group of fans
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: who know this movie, who know the cheesy references. so
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like it would be a good time at least.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: It might.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know that you need to be there like
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: every weekend, but a one-off time there would be entertaining.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we don't have to roll the die because we
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: paused all that craziness.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: we're still deciding. And most of them, I don't know
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: if we'll work one in before we get into holiday times.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: We'll have to see. But if not, we've got to
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: figure out what dumb things we want to watch for
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: the holidays this year that aren't even necessarily horror related,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: which to me, that opened the door. Just like, oh,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: now there's a lot of horrible things we can watch.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: There are so many bad holiday themed movies.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: So we'll have to figure out what those are. If
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: you have votes, you can Email on in and let
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: us know, I suppose. But if not, we'll be back
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: with something in the near future as our maternity leave continues.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Anything else to pass along?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: No, other than, yeah, we did our first show without
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: Nora and it was not as bad as I.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: Thought it would be. I mean, we've done it before.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: Have we?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: She has a life. Remember when she got married? We
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: were forced to do things all on our own.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 4: I remember being at the wedding.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: No, we did it for a couple of months beforehand
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: because she had a life and she had practicing.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: And every weekend was.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: Rehearsing and dinners and other dinners and other rehearsing for
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: a dinner or something.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: There's too much involved in these weddings.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: So much.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we avoided most of that until the wedding
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: and then we recorded at least a couple of one-offs
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: because even then, that's why I thought we would do
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: that again this time because last time, left to our
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: own devices, we just did comedies. And we just did
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: silly nonsense. So I was like, that's what we specialize
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: in anyway.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: I'm a very silly man.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: Let's head down that road. So that's how we got
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: to Lobster Man. All right. So there you go. We'll
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: be back with some sort of other silly shenanigans in
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: the near future that may or may not be holiday related. Fantastic. Otherwise,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: Bye, everybody.
• 1:50:35
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• 1:50:44
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