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Joined by Ryan from @TheDraftSociety I Ep: 99 · Draft Offsides Podcast

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  What do I, how do I start? Hello and welcome to episode 99
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  of Draft Offsides. I'm with Tico, Enzo and Ryan.
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  My name's Keith and we are here and it's been almost exactly a
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  year since Ryan was on last time and he is back and we are gonna
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  cover some Ryan's gonna you know, we call him the Wood
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  Whisperer 'cause he was the he was the one that called called
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  out Chris Wood and won Chico Championship.
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  And we just want to get some more of his knowledge before the
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  start of the season. Ryan works out or is the one of
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  the main guys at the drought society, which is is what like
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  kind of like the preeminent just destination for all, like all
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  like any sort of like in depth data on anything fan tracks
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  related or and and OFPL related. Just like Fantasy Premier
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  League's information that you need is probably you guys are
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  like the number one source for that.
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  You've been doing it for a long time and yeah, just want to make
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  sure that gets shot out. Yeah, absolutely.
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  We're obviously we've worked really hard on the draft kit.
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  We have a few more kind of big hitter articles coming out soon.
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  My overvalued and undervalued. Our staff goes through our do
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  not draft list, also a a fun list of players that we we
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  really like but are going to be able to draft because they're
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  either going too high or for other reasons.
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  So yeah, we and then we'll have our final rankings prior right
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  before the drafts. So yeah, we got a lot of good
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  stuff coming out. Beautiful.
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  And so yeah, we're really excited having to be here and
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  we're going to just go over some news and notes and then kind of
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  get into some of our like, my guys are like top picks, picks
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  we're really excited for. Yeah, it sounds good.
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  Thanks for having me back on guys.
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  Yeah, we're super stoked that you're here.
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  It's been, it's been a fun year. So yeah, let's get into, I mean,
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  we can start with just some transfer stuff.
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  I mean, there's so much stuff going right now.
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  I feel this is this feels like the craziest window in a while,
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  in a very long time. Yeah, I don't remember this many
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  like top players coming in during a summer window, which
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  will like dramatically kind of impact the first couple rounds.
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  Yeah. So I think the the first thing
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  is this Isaac, this E SAC move and like going to Liverpool, it
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  just feels so crazy, right? It's just like the amount of
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  money that they're spending and like the transfer window that
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  Liverpool's having. And like how, how dramatically
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  you guys is this shifting E SAC for you?
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  If he does go to Liverpool in your rankings?
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  He's like, he's like, he's having around around 6th right
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  now, right? Yeah, it's, it's funny because I
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  just saw like another mock yesterday and he was, he was
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  falling quite a bit based on like the controversy and him
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  sitting out. And I was just like, I don't
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  know how that's possible. Like, so win, win.
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  If he goes to Liverpool, well, he's going to be even better.
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  And if he doesn't, then he's still a top ten player.
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  So like what's what's the downside?
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  I mean, I guess like they're trying to price in the fact that
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  maybe he throws his toys at the pram and he sits out.
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  I don't know, a first couple games if they if they make a
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  stand, but like I, I don't see that happening.
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  So there's a potential that if he falls, then he could be value
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  later on in the first round, but I think he'll be better.
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  I mean what? The fear would be he goes to he
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  goes to Saudi, right? But I just don't his age profile
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  like his like the way he is. It doesn't doesn't seem
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  realistic. I know that there's rumors of it
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  circulating. Doesn't feel real.
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  Yeah, no chance. I think it's Liverpool or or
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  bust. Yeah, he's only got 1 mind there
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  and the only person in my mind I think is Zicatique in my mind.
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  Yeah, I think that changes that whole dynamic a little bit,
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  right? I think it also closes the gap
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  between Salah and Esock, especially considering Salah is
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  going to be for Ofcom miss at least 5-6 games if it's a
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  conflict for you, Esock kind of becomes more a little bit of
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  sexier pick. That's true too.
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  I mean, I think if you knew right now that Esock was going
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  to Liverpool, I think you definitely that conversation can
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  be had about where where he goes and it's not about 3-4, it
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  probably bumps up a little bit. Actually, I I still think that
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  top five is probably pretty crystallized.
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  I mean, he'd he'd be up there I think with Holland at that
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  point. But yeah, I still wouldn't pick
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  him top five because even if he scores 25 goals, given the fact
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  that he's so goal dependent, I'd still rather have somebody that
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  can offer a bit more like like a soccer or Palmer or even Salah.
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  But yeah, definitely bumps him up a little bit and that drops.
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  I could TK down probably a few rounds.
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  I think so. So Speaking of this, like is
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  this the best transfer window? Like potentially this guy?
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  I think this could potentially be the best transfer window like
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  of all time for for any team potentially.
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  I'm looking at like a list right now of like the top like some
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  someone put together like it was like the top transfer windows
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  and they're like they know where they once as like the number two
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  Man City in 20/10/2011 when they signed Yaya Torre, Mario
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  Balotelli, David Silva X Alexander Kolorov and Jeremy
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  Bottang. That's kind of an iconic 1.
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  And then the this this one says the the number one transfer
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  window summer 2004, 2005 for Chelsea.
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  Drogba, Ricardo Carvalho, Paula. Ferreira, Aaron.
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  Robin. Tiago, Peter.
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  Check. No surprise, surprise, Chelsea's
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  in there. But when like when you look at
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  this, when you look at this, this window, this has the, this
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  has the potential to be greater than that.
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  I think, you know, if everyone pans out with Frimpong with, you
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  know, yeah, I. Mean if they if they add Isaac
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  to it, I mean, dollar for dollar, it's absolutely the the
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  biggest whether or not they all kind of bet in.
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  And it's kind of like a if it ain't broke kind of thing with
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  Liverpool like that. There is a thing of too much,
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  too much change at once. But yeah, I mean, given the
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  quality of players, it's it's a crazy, crazy window.
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  Yeah, too much change in the ones or even just like the wrong
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  kind of piece. Like you look at Real Madrid and
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  getting in, but they obviously great player, but just that just
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  I feel like that shifted the whole way they play.
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  And it kind of seems like they're they're not like broken,
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  but they just like they're not quite what they were with him or
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  they're still trying to figure that out.
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  So not that that not that Liverpool's going to have those
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  issues, but there is like the chance that just a little bit of
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  all this new bodies are going to cause some issues or some, you
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  know. OK.
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  What about Xavi Simmons to Chelsea?
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  Is that something that like, I don't even know where to start
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  to project for that, right? Have you right?
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  Have you already started thinking about that one?
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  Yeah, unfortunately I from, from what I gather, and I've only
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  seen him play a few times with Leipzig, I assume that he would
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  be kind of taking over that left wing role, which is like seems
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  to be rotation by committee. Like Pedro can play there,
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  Gittins can play there. Nobody would really lock it
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  down. I mean, Pedro Netto can play
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  there. So it would just add I think a
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  bit more rotation. But it would, I would assume
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  that he would be kind of first choice for that left wing role.
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  So that's the kind of the only thing that would would change
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  for me. I haven't looked too much into
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  like what his fantasy numbers would be.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's hard to start
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  to do that. But I think he would probably be
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  the the one there. Like he'd probably be the guy
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  starting on the left side, just assume.
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  But I think getting's obviously obviously different.
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  So I think with Maresco, what we're seeing is like probably
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  chopping and changing for different teams depending on
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  tactics. We're getting provides wet
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  Zombie Simmons can kind of play as more like an inside 10.
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  So it'd be interesting. But yeah, I agree, I think it it
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  ends up being a little bit of a headache.
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  It's been a headache at Chelsea. Yeah, but I mean, and then when
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  Speaking of headaches ends up working gives while staying at
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  Tottenham. This is, you know, I was one of
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  those fans that said if the deal's done, here we go done.
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  I was one of those guys. And now?
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  You have the, you have your jersey already in the mail,
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  right? It's Yeah, I was.
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  Already ready to get that gives one on my back but unfortunately
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  I don't know what the fuck happened.
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  It's like that. That owner of theirs is like
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  Suge Knight. He's doing some crazy shit.
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  Man I guess definitely has some mob mob vibes for sure.
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  Snitched on Crystal Palace and now he's fucking stopping
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  fucking transfers off they've gone through.
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  How does that even happen? I don't know how that's
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  happened. Didn't he go on the field last
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  year? Like argue with the manager or
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  Yeah. Creating the coach.
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  Yeah. Humiliated.
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  No. He's a character.
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  My God. I don't, yeah.
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  Only Spurs could mess up a release clause.
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  I mean, it's pretty straight, pretty straightforward.
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  I've never heard of anything like that before.
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  It's like you got to give it to for it.
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  So like, no, not going to happen.
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  Like what? How?
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  How does that even happen? I don't know.
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  There's gonna be a great athletic piece in behind the
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  scenes on that one. Yeah, I'm sure, man.
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  I also feel like there there could be like in 10 years time,
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  like when Manakis like is found like guilty of, you know,
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  racketeering, They'll be like a great documentary about all of
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  this. Did you see the interview with
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  Gibbs White when he had Faranakis next to him about?
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  Oh my gosh. Did he not seem scared to you?
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  I was really. Sound like it was like the guy
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  like he was like a kidnap being kidnapped.
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  Exactly. That's.
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  What I'm trying to say, I was like in my head twice, blink
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  twice. That's exactly as I blinked.
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  Wives, if you're being kept beyond.
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  Your It was a great tweet where they showed the behind the
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  behind the scenes footage and had had Marinakis with a knife
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  behind his back where he was doing the interview.
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  Seemed pretty, pretty odd, yeah. We were talking about it before
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  you came on around, but we kind of feel like that is actually
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  better from his values on fantasy.
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  I think so. I would assume that he would
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  have played like a little deeper at Spurs, but as I think we'll
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  get to it, I'm not huge on on Gibbs White.
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  I think he's been dining off his great season a few years ago.
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  He's just being taken way too early and that doesn't change it
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  for me. Yeah.
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  Other than that, we have Luis Diaz departure.
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  Seems like it's imminent. You know, I guess just don't
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  drop him if he's still there for whatever reason.
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  I probably won't be, but just. Didn't someone say that?
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  We all kind of knew it, but we still should have ranked them
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  and so and so refused to rank them in our rankings.
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  We have those types of conversations at dress society
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  where it's like, yeah, it's not official, but it's going to
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  happen. Like I've I've I've ranked
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  yokerish like weeks ago I was like, it's it's going to happen.
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  Like and I refuse to not. But yeah, we do the we do the
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  same. Yeah, see.
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  Thank you. Appreciate it.
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  And then I kind of ran about the Malik Fofana to Everton, I
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  thought was kind of an interesting 1.
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  He was kind of a guy that like Chelsea was interested in, was
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  kind of like hot young prospect. And it sounds like that might be
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  happening. And that, that to me just seems
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  like a coup for Everton a little bit, if that, if that goes
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  through, how do we lose him? I lost him, but I think Fofana's
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  a good sign of Evan for what they want to do.
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  I'll be honest, I think they're replacing Golden finally.
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  Money Fofanos in the league. There's too many.
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  Forfana, which is weird because Forfana is like such a like
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  unique last name. Yeah.
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  Ryan, I think, I'm not sure you're there, but we, we were
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  like, I think you were frozen on you.
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  You might want to refresh your browser if you can hear us.
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  Oh, maybe there. Oh, wait.
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  No, it came back actually recording.
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  Us, we're getting, we're not really good.
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  Oh, hey, Ryan, we, we lost you for a good like minute and a
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  half there. Can you hear me now, A.
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  Blame Serger, it happened as soon as he dropped on.
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  It could only. Be one with that 2 Highlander.
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  It's Highlander. That's where that's from.
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  You know the movie Highlander? Of course it's a classic.
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  I love that movie. That that that's actually kind
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  of right for a remake. They should.
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  Highlander remake, Yeah, that'd be.
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  Cool, chop their head off and just.
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  Chop, yeah, chop in the heads off of swords and their power.
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  And yeah, that's just, that's just sick.
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  It's pretty dumb concept. Yeah, I like the shows you've
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  been doing, mate. OK.
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  I was telling your missus that you were doing a really good
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  job. She's like, yeah, but I have to
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  wake up at 3:00 AM and all I hear is back.
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  Oh no. Oh, we going back.
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  Sorry about that. No.
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  You're all good. Goodness gracious, I think we
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  were talking malice on. Yeah, I saw, I saw Moyes did an
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  interview I think yesterday where he said he wanted at least
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  like 8 or 9 signings. So yeah, I don't think he's
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  happy with the squad that's currently constructed.
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  But yeah, that'll be interesting to see who they bring in, you
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  know? That one person that gave me a
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  little bit of pause on was actually Alcaraz, cuz he's
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  someone that's kind of been a little bit of a hipster pick.
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  Yeah. And just, and it just makes me
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  like, not that I wouldn't necessarily think, it just makes
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  me a little less like excited about that.
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  I don't know much about Fafana, but he would be competing with
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  with Alcaraz for that role, yeah.
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  More likely than not. Yeah, his his stock has risen to
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  the point where I was like, yeah, I wanted to get him for
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  value in like the 8th, but now he's like I've seen mocks where
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  he's gone like in the 5th almost like a.
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  Wow, that's that's a bit too. Early and definitely considering
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  this. So yeah, I I agree with that.
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  It'll give me some pause. OK.
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  Just trying to get through these Newcastle's revert to be going
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  for Cesco and there's been talks there.
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  Woof. I mean, that would be kind of
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  juicy they take. Yeah, yeah, Cesco, I've
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  actually, I was leaning Cesco coming into this, this window.
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  Over. Yeah, but actually drank the
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  Kool-aid at this point. So I'm pretty, I'm low on Cesco
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  now. Yeah, I would obviously signal
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  that they were going to get rid of of Esac, but yeah, I mean,
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  you'd have to, you'd have to fancy him.
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  It would add another kind of high profile forward into the
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  mix where I could probably see him going late second, early
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  third maybe. But yeah, he's he's still pretty
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  raw. I probably wouldn't touch him if
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  he went to Newcastle. I I told the guys yesterday that
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  I saw his highlights. All of his shots went in.
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  It was a goal after goal in bangers.
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  I'm all in. You didn't miss a signal.
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  Explain to him that's. Well, he only had I think 15 all
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  comps, so like. Yeah, I mean, it was a short.
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  Pick and choose. It was a short highlight
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  highlight clip, but Bangor after Bangor.
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  That that transition goal where he did like the Travaila from
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  like 30 yards, that was yeah, that's tasty one.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he does that every week.
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  Yeah, I, I got, I got fooled the same way about with Hoyland
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  couple of years ago with his twelve career goals.
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  Oh. Yeah, yeah, is different.
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  Yeah, you got to sift through so many of them because they're a
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  lot of TAP insurance versus like Rio Ave., but.
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  Or a lot of him just literally like bullying 2 defenders where
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  I just don't know if he'll be able to do that as much in the
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  Premier League. You know, he's a big boy.
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  Yeah, I don't. Know he kind of rolled the way
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  the Champions League last season and hit the post.
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  Yeah, yeah, it'll be very interesting.
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  Yeah, I, I feel like if Cesco's still around in like the 4th,
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  I'm starting to get a little interested.
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  I just so unlikely that he's there, you know, if he ends up
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  coming. But I think that's kind of my
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  threshold, just, it's just too much risk.
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  Yeah, I'm just not using uncertainty, you know?
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  No, I agree. So.
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  What's up with all these stabs at Tottenham right now?
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  What's this next one? Well I'm just letting people
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  know that it's looking like Song could be leaving.
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  These aren't stabs man, this is just the news.
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  Is facts bro. News, brother.
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  Yeah, this is facts. Yeah, I read someone saying that
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  that's probably what they're doing, is that it might already
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  be decided that sounds leaving, but they're just doing this
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  torch this in Asia. Yeah.
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  There has to be such a star down there.
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  God's sake man, I just got his jersey.
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  The fuck? I read an interview on his
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  jersey. I I have his, I haven't, I have
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  his Korean jersey, but I had a couple others.
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  I had cane. I've got matters now.
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  I've got son so but now he's leaving so.
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  I read a really good vintage jersey.
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  I read an interview where son was talking about he's, you
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  know, happy to go to finally go to a club that has the history
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  of winning a lot of trophies like it's, he said.
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  It's a huge upgate you. Talk about you talk about LAFC.
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  Yeah, you talk about LAFC. Yeah, they've been around for
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  like 2 years. And they won more trophies your
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  lifetime than. All right, next one's a
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  question. So there's rumors that Douglas
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  Louise might be coming back to the Premier League with West
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  Ham, Forest and Everton all interested.
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  Would he be relevant on those teams, you think?
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  Or do you think that was kind of such an A Villa like exclusive
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  thing and he might be playing deeper because he's kind of an
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  interesting role, like he kind of has like a Bruno Kimuraish or
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  something like that, You know, where it's that deeper laying
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  playmaker that but that was still generating points.
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  Yeah, he would. It would solely depend on
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  whether or not he would be taking set pieces for those
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  teams. If so, I'd be interested.
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  If not, I wouldn't be because yeah, that was, yeah, he derived
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  a lot of his value from that Villa from from doing that.
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  Yeah, what's what's that most? JWP Yeah, he was also the
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  penalty kick taker, but I. Was yeah, I was going to say
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  when you look at these teams, like West Ham has JWP, Everton
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  has a few different players, like Dwight McNeil has a good
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  set piece on Forest. You know, Gibbs White takes a
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  lot, Elliot Anderson takes a lot.
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  So yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
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  I mean, none of those teams this seems like are crying out for
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  like, you know, a set piece taker.
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  So, yeah. And then this last one, this is
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  Ryan. I don't know if this, you know,
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  Enzo's latest, like, thing is that he's really interested in
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  the player's personal dating lives and he's going.
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  To use that information too. So this is this is for him.
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  It's purely his factual though cohort.
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  It's purely. Factual and Enzo, you can read
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  it so you can you can. Colin Palmer's Dayang, a 22 year
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  old influencer slash Nell technician.
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  So that's great, strong and telling on the field, but off
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  the field could be a different story.
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  How will it affect his form? Look, it doesn't sound like
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  what's he doing. Well, he was.
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  He was with the same girl for a really long.
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  I think the bigger story is that he broke up with his girlfriend
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  that he was with for a very long time.
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  And that makes it even worse. I think what you should be
• 17:54
  focusing on is like the people that were just having young
• 17:56
  children like Odegard last season, Morgan Gibbs White just
• 18:00
  had one like the. Oh yeah.
• 18:02
  The lack of sleep. Yeah, the post infant dip is is
• 18:06
  real. I don't know about the yeah,
• 18:08
  monogamy thing. But also.
• 18:11
  She's not just a, you know, influencer that just goes out of
• 18:13
  models and parties. She's a nail technician.
• 18:15
  Hard work, yes. Yeah, she's looking at that.
• 18:17
  She. Clearly has great hands too, so
• 18:19
  she's, you know. Grounded, definitely grounded
• 18:21
  does gels and you know, and all that probably does patterns.
• 18:25
  It's no, it's not going to be good for Cole Palmer this year.
• 18:28
  I'm calling. It Oh, you're, you're doing my
• 18:30
  doing my boy. Wishful thinking, OK.
• 18:35
  All right, let's get into. So these are kind of are my guys
• 18:37
  and thanks. So this is kind of like my guys,
• 18:40
  the way that we treat, it's like these are the guys that like
• 18:42
  will be able to make fun of each other for for like sticking
• 18:45
  their flag, playing the flag and these guys if they go wrong,
• 18:48
  that's kind of how we that's how we kind of frame this section
• 18:50
  like that. So it's like the guys that we
• 18:52
  want to kind of stand behind. Abby the Bunny reverted that X
• 18:55
  is the. Nose.
• 18:57
  So Ron, we'll let you go first with your your.
• 19:00
  So this first round is people in the rounds like 4 to 6, which to
• 19:03
  me is like kind of like such a crucial kind of round.
• 19:07
  So I feel like there's a lot of value to be had, you know,
• 19:10
  'cause. So yeah, this is kind of that
• 19:12
  that zone. Yeah, I really like the the
• 19:14
  fourth round 'cause I think first three are kind of usually
• 19:20
  different order, but usually kind of crystallized. 4th is
• 19:22
  where you kind of see a lot of variance and you can we can win
• 19:27
  your league with a really good 4th rounder.
• 19:31
  I put in the dock defender ones just because there's a really
• 19:40
  wide range of elite defenders that pop up around around this
• 19:46
  round. You have your safe choice and
• 19:48
  like James Turkowski, you have your your punts with Jeremy
• 19:53
  Frimpong and I Nori. So those are a few guys that
• 19:59
  that pop up around this around this time.
• 20:03
  I think Turkowski's the the the safest choice amongst those
• 20:09
  those defenders really like mentee around around this time.
• 20:16
  I was avoiding Gap PO until the Luis Diaz news came down the
• 20:20
  Pike. If.
• 20:22
  If Isaac doesn't come, which I think would probably force maybe
• 20:26
  Ekatika to have some some some cameos on the left wing and they
• 20:31
  don't sign anybody else for that left wing spot, I think Gacpos
• 20:35
  is pretty good, pretty good value here.
• 20:37
  You think nor is a punt. You don't think he's kind of a
• 20:40
  short thing as well? No, because his time at Wolves,
• 20:44
  he was very hit or miss. He really kind of needed some
• 20:48
  attacking returns and he was so integral to their attack that he
• 20:52
  was able to to do that at City. It's still the jury's kind of
• 20:56
  out how they're going to play with him.
• 20:58
  And obviously Gabardiol can play there as well, although he'll
• 21:02
  play most, most games at center, center back.
• 21:05
  And so the combination of kind of rotation and how they're
• 21:09
  going to play with him and the fact that he doesn't have a a
• 21:13
  huge track record for ghost points kind of gives me a bit of
• 21:16
  a pause. So that's why I kind of put him
• 21:17
  in more of the punt category as opposed to like a a sure thing
• 21:21
  and and Turkowski. I I feel like I've been watching
• 21:25
  the Club World Cup and stuff. I really loved just the
• 21:26
  positions he was getting in. But I think to me the biggest
• 21:28
  thing is the rotation stuff. And I think you kind of
• 21:30
  mentioned that with Kavarti all and you know, Nico Riley played
• 21:34
  their times and I just you just you just can never get inside
• 21:37
  Pep's head and you know, like he might spend all that money on a
• 21:39
  guy and never play such an enigma.
• 21:43
  He. He drops in the sixth round.
• 21:44
  I'm, I'm really interested, but four and five, it's just like I,
• 21:50
  I just like better players in that that time with with less
• 21:53
  risk, yeah. I think the Gakbo thing around
• 21:56
  that you're mentioning too, I think with the with the with the
• 21:59
  news about Luis Diaz and like even if Esac comes, then it's
• 22:04
  what works in Gakbo or probably both can both play off the left.
• 22:07
  It's just it's going to be interesting to see how like I
• 22:09
  feel like we need to see some pre season before we really get
• 22:12
  a really good idea. You know, like probably the last
• 22:14
  game of pre season usually where they try and get a lineup that
• 22:17
  feels a little more realistic, but it's going to be hard to
• 22:20
  know what's going on there. Yeah, how how he deploys Verts
• 22:24
  is going to be really interested in and really indicative of of
• 22:30
  who's going to be valuable in that, in that Liverpool attack.
• 22:33
  But regardless of all that, given the fact that they just
• 22:37
  don't have the bodies to play left wing, Gakpo's going to play
• 22:40
  a lot of games there. If they don't, they don't
• 22:42
  reinforce that that that position.
• 22:44
  Absolutely. And he falls to you around
• 22:46
  around that time. I think his his value and ADP
• 22:49
  will rise based on this news, but he'll still be able to
• 22:51
  probably get him in like late 4th early 5th.
• 22:54
  Yeah, OK, I'll go next. I have on mine my like 4 to 6
• 22:57
  ranges. I really like Lewis Hall.
• 23:00
  He's obviously a Newcastle defender.
• 23:02
  He's kind of the last of the defenders on my list that have
• 23:05
  that kind of potential, that kind of going to that elite
• 23:07
  defender kind of echelon. He's to cut that to me.
• 23:10
  There's kind of like a little bit of a hard cut out after
• 23:11
  that, you know, 10.7 points were started last year with a war
• 23:16
  like 0.94 just under 1 and he had a solid amount of starts.
• 23:19
  I think he was 24. I think the reason he's like
• 23:21
  somewhat under the radar is he's got injured and I think just it
• 23:24
  was the back half the season that he missed and people just
• 23:26
  kind of tend to forget players that they didn't see for the
• 23:29
  last six months. You know, and he's starting,
• 23:31
  he's he's training on grass again, he's getting really close
• 23:33
  and he's only 20 and it and the other thing that I really like
• 23:35
  about him right now is that just there's this not a ton of
• 23:38
  competition in that position. Like Matt Target is still at
• 23:41
  Newcastle, so name we haven't heard of in how many years, and
• 23:44
  that's kind of like the that's like the only guy when I was
• 23:46
  looking at the depth chart, the only guy that I was really
• 23:48
  looking at being like, you know, like I think I'll just like
• 23:50
  livermento careership here there, but they're both want to
• 23:52
  play more on the right. And so I just think that as a as
• 23:55
  a potential left back, I really, really like him.
• 23:57
  I think he has kind of a lot of potential there.
• 24:00
  Yeah, I think you're, I think you're spot on in this one.
• 24:02
  He's yeah, not to bury the lead, but he's in my undervalued
• 24:07
  article for most of the reasons you mentioned.
• 24:09
  The only thing that would give me pause is yeah, the fact that
• 24:12
  he has shown to be a little injury prone.
• 24:16
  It was a pretty nasty foot injury.
• 24:17
  So he might, he might take a while to to get back to his
• 24:21
  self, but when he's, when he plays, he's he's lights out.
• 24:25
  The the other thing is like Newcastle have just been a a
• 24:28
  nightmare this summer in the in the window and who knows how how
• 24:31
  that translates to to their form.
• 24:35
  But the fact that he's dropping to the I saw I've seen Mox where
• 24:38
  he's gone like the very end of the sixth round.
• 24:41
  And yeah, in terms of defensive upside, you're not gonna you're
• 24:44
  not gonna get much better than him there.
• 24:46
  So yeah, I like that, but. Who do you have?
• 24:49
  Is your 4 to 6 my guy? James Madison, I think he's
• 24:52
  ADP's in the mid fifties, 55. I'm a big fan of Madison.
• 24:56
  Every year has been played in the Premier League.
• 24:58
  He's averaged over 10 points. Last year with the rotation,
• 25:01
  everything that was going on, he had a career low 57 minutes per
• 25:05
  game, but he still managed to average 13 1/2 points per start.
• 25:08
  And I think with Gibbs now Gibbs White not coming to Tottenham,
• 25:12
  it kind of shortens the rotation for them one less player in the
• 25:14
  midfield. So I do think James Madison for
• 25:18
  him, it's just essentially getting the opportunity and I
• 25:21
  popping at a new manager with whatever happened with big Ange,
• 25:23
  who knows. But obviously the productions
• 25:25
  are there, the numbers are there and he's a player that when he's
• 25:28
  on he produces like top two first around value, I think the
• 25:32
  other. Shout, too, is that Kulzefski,
• 25:34
  that injury is just feeling a little like in that weird Gray
• 25:37
  area we're talking. They don't really want to talk
• 25:39
  about a timetable for return. And Thomas Frank said he
• 25:41
  definitely won't be ready at the start of the season.
• 25:43
  And so I think like that also like kind of rises Madison's
• 25:46
  value in my mind too. Like Ryan was going to say
• 25:49
  something the opposite. Yeah, I kind of I've
• 25:53
  respectfully, I think disagree on on Madison, just having
• 25:57
  rostered him in the past and he's so frustrating.
• 26:00
  Last season, he was incredibly frustrating.
• 26:02
  He kind of dined off a few big performances and then, yeah, was
• 26:06
  never to be seen again. I think you're right in the fact
• 26:09
  that there's less competition given MGWS not coming and Kulu's
• 26:15
  injury, because I think Kulu is really the the prototypical
• 26:20
  Frank player in that in that position.
• 26:23
  So I was kind of excited about drafting him until like the
• 26:27
  injury news just got worse and worse.
• 26:29
  So he might get that opportunity early days and in which case the
• 26:33
  play would be to draft him for decent value.
• 26:37
  He plays the first month or so and then you trade him on a high
• 26:41
  before Kulu comes back. Otherwise it's it's it's very
• 26:45
  risky. And who knows?
• 26:48
  I mean, he could play somebody else there like a Pepe SAR or
• 26:52
  somebody else. I just Madison doesn't have the
• 26:55
  legs to play this this system, I don't think.
• 26:57
  But yeah, pre season will be interesting there.
• 27:00
  But yeah, you're, you're right in the sense that he's got he's
• 27:02
  got big upside if everything kind of falls his way.
• 27:05
  And does the Tottenham guy, what do you, what do you think?
• 27:08
  I agree with the Kulu part. I think Kulu's more the player
• 27:11
  that Franklin won there. He's going to keep running and
• 27:13
  he won't stop. He's got the legs for it to
• 27:16
  provide. I still think Madison's got the
• 27:18
  capabilities of doing it. I think I said in the last time
• 27:21
  we spoke about Madison and being in this position, he's got the
• 27:24
  talent. It's just does he have the legs
• 27:28
  like Ryan said, but I don't know.
• 27:31
  I love Madison. I think he can do well but it's
• 27:34
  just A1 not he can fit into this Thomas Frank role that he wants
• 27:39
  to play. I mean, I like it as your my
• 27:41
  gags. It's very high risk at reward.
• 27:43
  Either we're gonna be able to really clown on you or gonna be
• 27:45
  like, damn right, it's gonna. Be the Danny Welbeck.
• 27:49
  Yeah. Use them in the beginning and
• 27:51
  try to trade him off as soon as possible.
• 27:54
  And so who do you got? Yuri Tillerman is going early. 6
• 27:58
  ADP points per star is 10.1 goes points per star is 8.2.
• 28:03
  Shows that they don't rely on goals and assists.
• 28:05
  He started 3835 or 38 games last season with Villa.
• 28:09
  Villa's quite in the transfer market so that's not going to
• 28:11
  change. You got three goals and assists,
• 28:12
  which is a bad position. I think he's a person that gets
• 28:16
  overlooked, especially when you got like Morgan Rogers and only
• 28:20
  Watkins up there. They're thought first, but your
• 28:23
  retirements is an important part of that team and you can
• 28:25
  produce. I think you can do a little bit
• 28:27
  more. So he just feels like one of
• 28:29
  those really safe players, you know, like you kind of know what
• 28:31
  you're getting with him. I.
• 28:33
  Think you could do more? Perfectly honest.
• 28:35
  Yeah, Villa will be. It'll be really interesting.
• 28:37
  Outside of Newcastle. I don't, I don't think anybody's
• 28:40
  had a worse window because villages have just stood still.
• 28:44
  They've lost the Ascencio and Rashford loans.
• 28:49
  Duran has not been replaced as a as a backup to Watkins, who's no
• 28:56
  spring chicken. Yeah, I've, I think PSR has
• 29:00
  really screwed them, but I'd still thought that they would
• 29:02
  have done a bit more business. So I don't think they're going
• 29:05
  to be all that great this season.
• 29:08
  But yeah, I mean, Tillman's is going to be at the heart of
• 29:11
  that. And Unai Emery's shown that he's
• 29:14
  really trust him and that's why he starts every game.
• 29:17
  So like, yeah, if you're if you're in the market for a solid
• 29:21
  mid 2, mid 3 in those rounds, I think yeah, he's your man.
• 29:24
  I also think too sometimes if you're, if you're taking a few
• 29:27
  picks earlier that are a little risky, you know, like maybe you
• 29:29
  go more moose or you go someone like that, then maybe it makes
• 29:32
  sense to take it. You know, Telomids all of a
• 29:33
  sudden becomes a lot more alluring because you have that
• 29:35
  like stability there. It's like, OK, I know that this
• 29:37
  guy is going to kind of do week in week out, kind of have this
• 29:40
  like kind of solid floor, like this kind of solid.
• 29:44
  Like even if it's not like a that sounds like he's not so
• 29:46
  gold reliant and he's just so like you, there's kind of a
• 29:49
  chair in there like consistency there.
• 29:51
  So yeah, solid. OK, next section is guys that
• 29:56
  like go are going past the sixth round, so kind of like the
• 29:59
  second-half of the draft. So maybe like not totally punts,
• 30:02
  but just guys that we kind of like in that area.
• 30:05
  And so the start of like second, my guy.
• 30:07
  So Ryan, do you, who are some of the guys you have?
• 30:09
  I hate this guy in real life, but Cutie Pie Romero, like him
• 30:19
  this season. I mean, somebody's going to have
• 30:21
  to emerge as that Thomas Frank random ghost point machine
• 30:26
  center half for his sides, Ethan Pinnick and then Nathan Collins
• 30:33
  before them. And I think Romero's got the all
• 30:37
  of the attributes to to do that. Despite the suicidal nature of
• 30:42
  Angeball last season, he's still finished over I think 9 1/2 PPS.
• 30:47
  His ghosts are good. Their defense can only get
• 30:50
  better, one would think, although Thomas Frank sides
• 30:54
  aren't known for their stealth defense, but it'll get better
• 30:58
  than than last season. So I think he's pretty good
• 31:02
  value in like the 9th or the 10th.
• 31:05
  There's a there's a really solid upside center back.
• 31:09
  He also has some pretty good set piece potential there.
• 31:13
  So I like Romero. I like as wolves is my my second
• 31:20
  team. So I have a a big soft spot for
• 31:21
  them. So John Arias is and my wife's
• 31:24
  Colombian, so full circle. So I really like I really like
• 31:28
  him coming in. He's supposed to be the the
• 31:31
  Cunha replacement, although nobody could could replace him,
• 31:35
  but he's got a lot, a lot going for him.
• 31:38
  I think he'll get pretty decent ghosts with some successful take
• 31:41
  ONS and and other good stat categories.
• 31:44
  So I mean wolves won't be great, but I think if he can hit the
• 31:47
  ground running and take over set pieces, which is up for grabs
• 31:52
  now the Cunha is gone, I think he'll he'll have some sneaky
• 31:55
  good value and that's pretty that'll be a pretty late punt.
• 31:58
  I don't think anybody's really that aware of him and he's not
• 32:02
  even in the system yet. So he's ADP is not coming up.
• 32:06
  So I like punting on him late, especially if you need kind of
• 32:09
  like a four or three later in the draft.
• 32:12
  And then yeah, I put potential transfers, quote UN quote.
• 32:17
  I always like to keep a few drafts late draft slots open for
• 32:21
  guys that are on the outs with their club, but I haven't found
• 32:25
  a new one yet. But when they do, they'll be
• 32:27
  they'll be money. So like Jack Reelish's odds on
• 32:31
  gonna gonna leave City and wherever he ends up in the
• 32:34
  Premier League, he should have pretty good value.
• 32:37
  And same with with Harvey Elliott.
• 32:39
  So I think punting on them in the in the later rounds,
• 32:44
  assuming that they're going to make a move is is a nice high
• 32:47
  upside but low risk endeavor. I'd take both of those at
• 32:52
  Tottenham, I'll be honest. I've heard Ellie it's linked to
• 32:55
  Tottenham now, not the MGW. Yeah, I.
• 32:59
  Actually really like that. I like, I hate how much I like
• 33:01
  that. I think that would be a pretty
• 33:02
  good move for both parties. I wouldn't mind Grealish on the
• 33:05
  left too if we get rid of Sun. So just saying.
• 33:08
  I'm just saying wishful thinking, but you probably won't
• 33:11
  go for. Well, what didn't you take?
• 33:14
  Anybody go to the release clause?
• 33:15
  I think, yeah. Anybody.
• 33:19
  Basically. I don't need to like to fuck
• 33:22
  that up, all right? All right.
• 33:24
  I have a weird one in mind. So mine's kind of like a zig to
• 33:26
  the zag. So I feel like there's a general
• 33:28
  trend towards moving away from West Ham because they're they're
• 33:30
  second. Their whole performance last
• 33:32
  year was so bad. Yeah, it was really bad.
• 33:34
  But I also feel like because of that, there's maybe some value
• 33:37
  to be had because everyone's kind of really fading them hard.
• 33:41
  And you have to think that grandpa came in midway through
• 33:43
  the season and like, I don't I'm not sitting here being like
• 33:46
  grandpa has been a genius last three years.
• 33:48
  There's clearly been, you know, he hasn't hasn't been his best
• 33:51
  period, but like having a whole preseason and working with some
• 33:54
  of these guys I'm very interested in.
• 33:56
  So I think the two that I'm looking at are James James Ward
• 33:59
  Prowse. I think he's got his ADP like
• 34:01
  136. And I think, you know, by the
• 34:03
  end of the last season, he was getting a lot of the starts.
• 34:05
  And I think just with his set peace ability and kind of with
• 34:09
  his ball delivery, I think there's I think there's like
• 34:12
  that's really good value in that range.
• 34:14
  And the other one kind of a little more of like a swing is
• 34:16
  like Chrisenti of Somerville. He has he had a lot of hype last
• 34:19
  year and then got kind of had a bad injury.
• 34:22
  And so he's kind of dropped off maps as well.
• 34:24
  And I think it's, you know, it's, you know, there's also a
• 34:26
  big void with kudos going as well and potentially the Quetta
• 34:29
  leaving, you know, that's kind of those rumors are kind of
• 34:31
  floating around. So it's not like I'm like
• 34:33
  sitting here being like, I think these guys are, you know, nailed
• 34:35
  on. But I think there's for where
• 34:37
  they're going to drafts Presencia 151, JWP 136.
• 34:40
  I think that represents the potential for good value.
• 34:43
  And at those spots those are like good like Lotto pick type
• 34:47
  type players that I'm I'm actually interested in.
• 34:49
  I, I shout out Summer Bill as well on my undervalued article.
• 34:53
  I think he had such a horrific season last season.
• 34:56
  I mean, a lot of people took him in the fourth round.
• 34:58
  I remember telling Toddy not to do it, but he was pretty adamant
• 35:02
  that he wanted to do it. I think it ruined his life and
• 35:04
  his and his and his league because he only had like 4
• 35:09
  points per start. I think he's had like maybe 10
• 35:11
  starts. I mean, just horrific, horrific
• 35:13
  season, but we we saw what he could do at Leeds and yeah, the,
• 35:18
  the fitness is I think the key one there.
• 35:20
  But yeah, I'm with you there. It's it's pretty risk free that
• 35:24
  late in the draft. So I think, I think it's, it's
• 35:28
  decent value. JWPI mean I there was a six year
• 35:32
  stretch when I first started playing drafts in which I, I had
• 35:35
  him on my team every season just because I I loved him in
• 35:39
  Southampton. And I think everybody was pretty
• 35:43
  excited when he started playing more games under Potter, But he
• 35:46
  only had I think 6:00-ish PPS when during that stretch he
• 35:51
  still took some set pieces. So I don't know, I'd have to
• 35:55
  delve into the numbers. I don't know what exactly
• 35:57
  happened there, but just to say that he's he's kind of a shell
• 36:01
  of himself. I'd love to see him make a make
• 36:04
  a comeback and he's he's pretty late in the draft there.
• 36:08
  So it'll just depend on kind of my roster construction at that
• 36:12
  point whether or not I, I want to add JWP there.
• 36:17
  But yeah, I think there's some there's some logic there.
• 36:20
  Cool you guys have any thoughts do you guys?
• 36:22
  Well, I drafted both of those in one team, so and I came six so.
• 36:28
  It wasn't good. Yet not not bad all things
• 36:30
  considered actually. Yeah, yeah, they fucking
• 36:31
  destroyed my team. I took out the call.
• 36:33
  It was great, but yeah. I think JWP.
• 36:36
  When did you you take JWP? Like the second I got, I think
• 36:39
  the second one I got the third, the third round and I got
• 36:42
  Somerville pretty late. I got him like the I think I got
• 36:44
  him like the 6th or the 7th maybe.
• 36:46
  I don't know. Yeah, Terrible, horrible.
• 36:49
  I'm a big stay away from West Ham players.
• 36:52
  Yeah, I know you are, which is fair.
• 36:54
  I kind of, that's the whole yeah, sometimes, you know, like
• 36:57
  some of these teams that you you don't like, remember Bournemouth
• 37:00
  last year, no one really condemned to have a good season,
• 37:03
  you know, and then some of the a lot of the players to return to
• 37:06
  a lot of value because of that. So that's kind of that's part of
• 37:09
  it is like a little bit of going against the grain.
• 37:12
  I mean, they made Man United look pretty decent last night
• 37:14
  and that's, that's really hard to do.
• 37:16
  So I know it's really, I know it's really doors, but my
• 37:19
  goodness. Do you think May and I could do
• 37:22
  worse next season? I mean, hope springs eternal.
• 37:27
  I've thought every season that they couldn't and they have.
• 37:29
  So we. Said the same.
• 37:31
  Thing. Yeah, that's.
• 37:32
  Let's keep it up, yeah. My fingers are crossed.
• 37:36
  OK, Tika, who do you have in this section?
• 37:38
  Key 5 Your boy Ian Matson. So with Lucas Deanigan, he his
• 37:44
  ADP is one O 5 points per start last year at 8.4 and he
• 37:48
  obviously he wasn't he was very inconsistent when he was he
• 37:50
  wasn't really starting Dana average 8.5 points per start,
• 37:54
  which is pretty similar to each other.
• 37:57
  However, Dana did get more ghost points 9 versus 6.9.
• 38:00
  But I think Ian Matson with another year of the experience
• 38:03
  on this Villa team that that it'll be by a lot of players.
• 38:06
  He doesn't have anyone else at least I don't think they have
• 38:08
  any other left back. So I think.
• 38:10
  Where he's going. Isn't he on his way out?
• 38:15
  It sounds like they might offer him a new contract actually
• 38:17
  really, but he but by the end of last season, Matson was starting
• 38:21
  most of the games. So like, I'm not saying it like
• 38:23
  I'm not saying it like he's going to be the guy.
• 38:24
  I'm not trying to. The news that I've seen this,
• 38:27
  he's yeah, he's gone. But yeah, I I don't.
• 38:32
  Know. Towards the end of the year, he
• 38:35
  was a starter and I think he and Matson does have the potential
• 38:38
  to obviously overtake and they are producing the same kind of
• 38:40
  number as numbers as well while they're starting.
• 38:43
  Yeah, I think that I think that role is almost just as valuable.
• 38:46
  You know, whether it's senior or Matson.
• 38:49
  I like this was my, I love this pick.
• 38:51
  Last year, I thought Matson would would eventually take over
• 38:54
  for Dania and it didn't really happen, you know, obviously
• 38:56
  until really late. But yeah, I see this in it.
• 38:59
  I like it. With the yeah, if he had the
• 39:02
  numbers that when he was starting he would be a top 20
• 39:05
  defender pretty much. Yeah, is that, is that facts or
• 39:08
  is that same news you go back didn't?
• 39:10
  You. No, that's facts.
• 39:11
  All right, not a fan. I'm going to stay away from
• 39:14
  Mattson because I'm not sure. Didn't you draft him last year?
• 39:16
  That's why. I did because Keith, yeah, I
• 39:18
  did. I did it because what Keith
• 39:20
  said, and I did it and it fucked me.
• 39:21
  That's I think it's the same team.
• 39:22
  I have JWP in Somerville so I got really fucked last season
• 39:25
  and. Speaking of, who do you have?
• 39:27
  And this is just just. Who else did you draft last
• 39:33
  game? No, I'm just laughing at this
• 39:36
  because this was like I said, like anyone six round plus.
• 39:38
  And then Enzo was like, he ends up put this guy and then I was
• 39:41
  like, I don't think he's going in the six round and it's like,
• 39:43
  well, it's ADP 60.1, so technically in A10 team I was
• 39:47
  like, OK, fine. It's a technicality, but it's
• 39:50
  still turning. So Kevin Sharde ADP 60.1 points
• 39:55
  per *11.1 goes points isn't that good at 6.6.
• 39:58
  But, and I know it's nothing to scream about, but he's got the
• 40:01
  other responsibility now to fill up that gaming hole left wing
• 40:04
  wimble. I feel to get those points gives
• 40:07
  him an opportunity to score more goals and play more games.
• 40:10
  The only thing he had 26 starts last season.
• 40:13
  I think he can get more 30 plus he had eleven goals to assist,
• 40:16
  which is actually really good for what he played.
• 40:19
  I think he can do a lot more and have things got to be expected
• 40:22
  to do a lot more here we. Go yeah.
• 40:24
  I'm just I'm I'm torn on I'm torn on Shada.
• 40:27
  Yeah, yeah, every every mock I think I've been in he's gone mid
• 40:30
  5th. So just don't expect him to to
• 40:32
  slide that much. Yeah, just Brentford, Brentford
• 40:37
  are going to be I don't know if they're going to be bad, but
• 40:40
  they're going to be worse than they were.
• 40:42
  They're losing their best player in boomer.
• 40:45
  This has been linked with the departure.
• 40:49
  Seems like they might stand for him and just keep him there.
• 40:52
  This all means that that shot. I will have to step up and
• 40:55
  contribute more. But yeah, the lack of ghosts and
• 40:59
  the fact that that they might not score as many goals without
• 41:03
  without so many quality players that they had last season kind
• 41:06
  of gives gives me pause. But there is also a dearth of of
• 41:10
  decent forwards and he's can slot in as your forward too.
• 41:14
  So yeah, I could see both sides of the argument there.
• 41:19
  So yeah, that'll just kind of depend on if I have a, a decent
• 41:22
  forward by by that time of the draft or, or not.
• 41:25
  But yeah, I'm not as excited about him as I was kind of
• 41:29
  coming out of the end of last season.
• 41:31
  Yeah, he was pretty great last year at the end of the season.
• 41:33
  And I think a lot of that was just, he's such a physical
• 41:36
  specimen. He's really fast, he's really
• 41:38
  good in the air. But I like, I think, and this is
• 41:40
  just totally like an I thing. I don't have a ton of stats for
• 41:43
  this to look at, but like, I just feel like he wasn't a total
• 41:46
  creative force the way that Venmo was on the other side.
• 41:48
  He seemed like he kind of was arriving late in the box and
• 41:51
  kind of had a little more of like a second striker.
• 41:54
  That's why his ghosts were so bad.
• 41:56
  Yeah. So I think I like, I just, I
• 41:59
  still think that the creativity void is going to be the big
• 42:02
  question mark at Brentford. And but like, if they feel that
• 42:05
  or if Dan Squire is able to really kind of do that or the
• 42:08
  position really they change it, you know, if there's some shift
• 42:11
  there, I think he has all the attributes to be really good,
• 42:14
  you know, so, so, yeah. Any thoughts?
• 42:21
  So that before we get into this is our each of us have kicked
• 42:24
  like 1, like do not draft. And it's not.
• 42:26
  So it's just kind of like guys that we're not drafting, Like I
• 42:28
  will not be drafting this player in in any circumstance, really.
• 42:32
  Ryan, you want to start with yours?
• 42:34
  Yeah, it's a former Balandor winner, which doesn't usually
• 42:40
  pop up and do not draft list, but Rodri obviously had a season
• 42:46
  ending ACL injury first in his first start get started soon.
• 42:50
  Last season, the season prior, he had over 11 PPS.
• 42:56
  So people are pretty hyped about drafting him coming into to last
• 43:00
  year's draft. So I I think he's probably went
• 43:03
  round 3 and, and almost every draft that that I was in.
• 43:08
  And so I think the name recognition, the fact that he
• 43:12
  did so well last time he played a full season, have people
• 43:17
  drafting him way too early. I think he's probably should be
• 43:24
  about 1/6 rounder. He's getting taken in the in the
• 43:26
  4th. And so coming off an ACL injury,
• 43:31
  never know what's how they're going to react from that Club
• 43:34
  World Cup didn't give didn't give me any any solace.
• 43:39
  And the fact that Pep's going to play so many different systems
• 43:42
  and I'm not convinced that he's going to play that more
• 43:46
  attacking role that he did two seasons prior when he did when
• 43:49
  he had decent fantasy points, because that was the the
• 43:52
  aberration. Every other season he was kind
• 43:55
  of a middling 8 + P PSCDM, which was serviceable again in the
• 44:00
  sixth round, but not worthy of of a fourth round or so.
• 44:04
  That's kind of my case against against Rodri and a draft flat
• 44:07
  has a has a different take. But yeah, I'm just, I'm not
• 44:11
  drafting him. I thought I was low.
• 44:13
  I thought I was low at 60. I'm right.
• 44:15
  I'm looking at your consensus ratings.
• 44:17
  You have them at 85. Oh, shit.
• 44:19
  Yeah. You know, it's yeah.
• 44:20
  Sometimes I sometimes I just kind of forget what I what I put
• 44:23
  in there. No, no, no, totally.
• 44:24
  I mean, that's. But yeah, I stand by. 60 for me,
• 44:27
  but yeah, no, totally. Oh, and so you're on mute or
• 44:30
  something? We can't hear you.
• 44:32
  Well, also the two years ago when he hit that good year, it
• 44:34
  was when KDB wasn't playing, yeah.
• 44:37
  No, there's everything went his way and it's not gonna not gonna
• 44:40
  come back. That player's not never coming
• 44:42
  back. And so we can't hear you right
• 44:43
  We. Can't through Yenzo.
• 44:45
  It's it's showing up like it's a mute issue because it's not like
• 44:47
  your your box isn't going blue. So it's something with your
• 44:50
  headset or your maybe it's not plugged in, maybe plug in can.
• 44:54
  You hear me now, right? I don't know if you know this
• 44:56
  about Enzo, but here it's just very bad at technology.
• 44:59
  Like I mean, I I can't really say anything since I I was
• 45:03
  disconnected earlier, so fair play.
• 45:06
  Can you, can you hear me now? Yes, you're back.
• 45:09
  OK. I have a question about about
• 45:11
  Roger. Yeah.
• 45:12
  I was waiting for you to ask this question.
• 45:14
  I knew it was coming. I was waiting.
• 45:15
  For you that would you spend 50 fab on Rhodri?
• 45:18
  Wait. No, the stop, stop, stop.
• 45:21
  Let's let's. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 45:22
  No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
• 45:24
  That's not a, that's not a fair retail season.
• 45:25
  That's that's. What you.
• 45:26
  Wouldn't Right now you wouldn't. No, I'm talking about OK last
• 45:29
  season. Last year before you got
• 45:31
  injured. Would you spend 50 fab on?
• 45:33
  Yeah. So like.
• 45:35
  Oh my God. Really.
• 45:36
  Fifty. Well, we have 100 fab and he put
• 45:39
  50 of it on Rodri. Yeah, he.
• 45:41
  Would why was why was Rodri on on the waiver wire?
• 45:46
  So last year he came back from the EUR and didn't play for like
• 45:50
  a month. Right off the RIP, right?
• 45:52
  Yeah. And some I got, he got really
• 45:54
  impatient and dropped him. Fuck.
• 45:57
  And so then I was like. After spending a what, a third
• 45:59
  round draft pick on him? Yeah, yeah, I, I, yeah, again,
• 46:02
  crazy, crazy to cut through. I think that was Thomas didn't.
• 46:05
  Even trade like didn't even shop the market didn't.
• 46:07
  Even just just just in the dead of night respect I so I I, I
• 46:14
  spent 55. I was like, yeah, I'm going
• 46:16
  after this guy and my midfield was a little light and I was
• 46:19
  getting absolutely berated in the chat for spending that much
• 46:22
  money. And I was I had no regrets.
• 46:23
  I was so excited about it. And then of course, the next
• 46:25
  game, the first game that he starts, he does this need after
• 46:28
  the season wait. Now it now it makes more sense
• 46:31
  there because Sergey just put in the chat that you put 51 fab
• 46:33
  because she was scared someone was going to put 50.
• 46:35
  Fab on. Yeah, yeah, I was scared.
• 46:38
  I thought when you guys was actually smart and was going to
• 46:40
  like realize his value. I hate that this actually worked
• 46:43
  out for you. I was waiting just.
• 46:44
  Thank you. I appreciate.
• 46:46
  It he also spent what was it, 20 or 30 fab on Marina. 30 fab on.
• 46:50
  Marine 28 I mean I. Like that even more.
• 46:54
  I was flailing on that one that that was after the Audrey.
• 46:56
  I was like, well, I hope. You didn't drop him before he
• 46:58
  became he did or not? Oh, shit.
• 47:00
  I definitely. Oh, I definitely.
• 47:02
  Yeah, I kept, I kept the taste. That one I got him and he broke
• 47:06
  his collarbone like right or whatever.
• 47:08
  Just like, yeah, yeah, the first training session, yeah, I was
• 47:10
  like, shit. He spent 80% of his FAB on two
• 47:15
  players that didn't play for him once.
• 47:18
  It was a bad. It was a bad yeah.
• 47:20
  Yeah, I, I, I can see why you ended up cantering to this
• 47:23
  league title there. But I stand by at least that
• 47:26
  first edition. But Marino, and I'm probably a
• 47:28
  little bit, I still stand by my my Rodgers, my Rodgers fan, OK?
• 47:33
  Damn, that didn't work out the way I wanted to.
• 47:34
  Yeah yeah, sorry about that. I I I still I always thought
• 47:37
  that he was way too too high as a round third rounder last
• 47:41
  season, but I still would have 50 fab.
• 47:44
  I mean yeah as AI still thought I got decent mid 3.
• 47:47
  Midfield. Yeah, yeah.
• 47:48
  It's like the usually the going rate for like a fourth round
• 47:51
  pick is 90 to 100 fab, give or take.
• 47:55
  So if you're getting a third rounder for 50, then.
• 47:58
  When you guys play, how much fab do you guys have?
• 48:00
  100 start the year so 4th rounder you spend all of your
• 48:04
  fab. Yeah, I've done it before.
• 48:07
  Oh. Wow, you.
• 48:08
  Guys, fab way differently. You guys don't don't trade picks
• 48:12
  for for fab in your in your league.
• 48:16
  It's the first year we played with Fab, so it took us kind of
• 48:19
  some time to get used to it and Oh yeah, went to spend it in.
• 48:21
  Values so. It's kind of a learning process
• 48:23
  as well. Yeah, Enzo and did up with more
• 48:25
  Fab at the end of the year then he started off with and he
• 48:27
  didn't use it on any player. He was hoarding and he started
• 48:30
  proposing. He started proposing it and he's
• 48:32
  like, don't you guys think it'd be a good idea if you could just
• 48:34
  carry Fab over? And we're like, no, nobody wants
• 48:37
  that so. He had 120.
• 48:40
  Yeah, no, he had 110 FAB and the next highest person like 20 FAB.
• 48:44
  He was putting like 30 FAB on players, like 45 on players.
• 48:48
  No point. He could, just not like 2121.
• 48:50
  And take it with you. Splurging.
• 48:51
  Splashing her exactly. Oh, that for 6th place.
• 48:55
  Yeah, you guys should try, should try trading FAB for draft
• 48:59
  picks this season. It's it's fun out.
• 49:01
  For draft picks is interesting. Because the market is, I mean,
• 49:05
  they're usually a market kind of emerges, but like it could,
• 49:09
  could go kind of anywhere. But yeah, I've, I've always kind
• 49:13
  of stuck to the maximum of like 1/4 rounder is probably worth
• 49:17
  most of your fab, All right. Would you say just not keeping
• 49:20
  FAB till the January transfer window?
• 49:22
  Definitely. I've I've done that before, like
• 49:24
  my second season playing, I hoarded all of my my fab for the
• 49:30
  January window and I ended up and I'll never forget this.
• 49:33
  I ended up having to spend it on Renato Sanchez who went to
• 49:36
  Swansea that that January window because it's like 9 times out of
• 49:43
  10 you're Bruno Fernandez doesn't come over in January and
• 49:49
  it's, it's, it's a waste. So never, ever hoard all of your
• 49:52
  fab for the January window. Duly noted.
• 49:57
  Yeah. All right, I'm gonna keep guys
• 49:59
  back on track. So DND for me.
• 50:02
  I have Omar Marmouche and I think that I like, it's not cuz
• 50:05
  I don't think he's a good player that he's gonna return value.
• 50:07
  I just at the what his ADP right now in fan tracks is 16.8 like
• 50:11
  so he's like what the 17 pick off the board.
• 50:14
  And so that's essentially like your forward one.
• 50:16
  And if you're getting a forward one that there's just so much
• 50:18
  uncertainty for, I just really, I'm like averse to that.
• 50:21
  Like I'm like, that's just too much risk and too much unknown
• 50:24
  for your second round pick for the guy that's going to be
• 50:28
  leading your attacking line. Just to me is just even if he
• 50:32
  does like I really don't see a world where he plays more than
• 50:34
  like 25 games. And that's like being really
• 50:36
  like optimistic, I think. So it's not nothing about him.
• 50:42
  It's just about the where he's going to drops.
• 50:45
  Yeah, I'd I'd agree with that. His coast points are really bad
• 50:49
  too. So if he doesn't bang in goals
• 50:52
  and he's not not as valuable, it'll be interesting to see what
• 50:55
  happens to his stock now that 2 elite forwards are coming in and
• 51:00
  in the form of girl creation and echo TK.
• 51:02
  Because I think he was he was going that high base almost
• 51:06
  solely on the dearth of forwards that was prevalent prior to
• 51:11
  these two guys coming in. So yeah, that'll be interesting.
• 51:14
  But I just not to, to go off topic, but I just saw the first
• 51:20
  mock with Yo Grace in the system.
• 51:24
  Any any guess as to where he was taken?
• 51:28
  I'm looking at it right now so I don't. 7th.
• 51:32
  He's 9th and the one that I'm looking at and I think, I think
• 51:37
  that's, I think that's about where he'll end up.
• 51:42
  I think is yeah, ADP will be around 10 or 11.
• 51:45
  Is it just as he plays for Arsenal?
• 51:47
  I wasn't saying there was bias there or anything, but I was
• 51:50
  thinking maybe. Shiny new toy syndrome.
• 51:53
  Yeah, 100%. Plus, yeah, I mean the team, I
• 51:57
  mean the the case for him is pretty, pretty straightforward.
• 52:00
  I mean, Michael Marino, you mentioned earlier scored as a
• 52:04
  prolific forward as a CDM in this system.
• 52:07
  So adding a guy that just scored 6000 goals in in Portugal is is
• 52:13
  likely gonna gonna work out. But I don't know.
• 52:16
  Yeah. I like your optimism about
• 52:18
  coming second again. It's gonna be I.
• 52:19
  Think it's. I mean this is like very.
• 52:21
  Like I'd love to finish 17th if I could like and.
• 52:24
  Win a trophy and win a trophy, Sir, if.
• 52:27
  And if you meet a team that has a backlash in their name in the
• 52:32
  in the semi finals and then meet a team that's 15th in your
• 52:36
  league in the finals, I I don't think you can count that as a as
• 52:39
  a trophy, but it's. Still, but it's physically still
• 52:42
  in the trophy. As a backlash, I thought it was
• 52:45
  just two small teams come by to make one.
• 52:47
  Team again, I couldn't tell you I didn't know if you played Bodo
• 52:49
  or or glimpse in the OR do you do you switch them off in
• 52:52
  different legs and yeah, I don't know at.
• 52:55
  Halftime, they switch. I love it, I love it.
• 52:58
  Yeah, I don't know what a relegation fight like does to
• 53:01
  your nerves. It must be like.
• 53:02
  The adrenaline must be like. It is Jack life changing life.
• 53:07
  Changing. He was not a happy camper in a
• 53:10
  lot of last season. I wouldn't assume so.
• 53:13
  He has eyes. But I would say far around in
• 53:17
  January, I said it. Yeah, yeah, in.
• 53:20
  January and now you want to build him a statue?
• 53:23
  Well, no, I'd never said that. I remember you guys asked me
• 53:25
  after we won the, after we won the Europa, you know, the cup
• 53:28
  that we won that. I said no, we still fire him.
• 53:32
  OK, let's get back on track. Tikka, who do you have for your
• 53:34
  DND player? I don't say it.
• 53:39
  Sorry. I know.
• 53:40
  No, no, the the tables, the tables have turned this season,
• 53:44
  yeah. Yeah, just coming off a career.
• 53:48
  Twenty goals a year older and I think last year the team already
• 53:52
  exceeded expectations. It's going to be hard to go
• 53:54
  back-to-back for it having the same year and he's still goal
• 53:58
  depending on a team that's I don't think they're going to be
• 54:00
  as good this year and everyone that's gotten better around
• 54:03
  them. Obviously they haven't really
• 54:04
  done much. They almost lost the player, but
• 54:08
  I just don't think he's going to.
• 54:10
  I just, I don't think he's going to.
• 54:12
  He's going to be produced that much and his first striker,
• 54:14
  that's that goal dependent. I just think it's just not worth
• 54:17
  the risk. Well.
• 54:18
  I think he's got a gun to the back of his head, man.
• 54:21
  So he might, he might do pretty well with, you know, his life
• 54:24
  being on the. Line that's true he's.
• 54:25
  Got like his his, he's got his like family held hostage.
• 54:28
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, he definitely doesn't want
• 54:31
  to go to Las Vegas anytime soon. All right, carry on.
• 54:33
  No, I, I think he's spot on. Yeah.
• 54:35
  And it's it's a it's a good indication of how quickly things
• 54:40
  can change because, yeah, he was completely undervalued going
• 54:43
  into the last draft. And now based off that season,
• 54:45
  he's completely overvalued. So, yeah, there's no no
• 54:49
  sentimentality in this game. So yeah, I agree.
• 54:51
  Yeah, I agree. OK, Andrew, who do you have?
• 54:55
  This player was always seemed to always be ranked high even
• 54:58
  though he had spaghetti hamstrings.
• 55:00
  I think this is the the first year where he's probably where
• 55:03
  he should be, but I still wouldn't Reese James always a
• 55:06
  liability get injured. I don't even care if he plays in
• 55:10
  the semi. I think that would be probably
• 55:12
  better for him fantasy wise, but I I wouldn't.
• 55:15
  I wouldn't draft freeze change even in the 50s.
• 55:18
  I feel like even at like his ADP right on fan tracks is like 91
• 55:22
  and like even there it feels too early for me, you know, like I
• 55:25
  don't, I feel like he's I agree. And I feel like it's like that's
• 55:29
  that's like to me like a late round flyer.
• 55:31
  If you if you know, like 131415 maybe then I'd be interested.
• 55:35
  But yeah, not not there. This is finally the first season
• 55:39
  where he's being drafted around where he should.
• 55:42
  I mean, he had a good run where is like third round every season
• 55:45
  despite the fact that we knew he wasn't going to start more than
• 55:48
  15 games. So like, I'm glad that people
• 55:50
  are finally so disgusted that they're not drafting him so
• 55:53
  high. But yeah, it's just not not
• 55:56
  worth the headache. I don't see the the upside in
• 55:58
  the Maresca system. He's not whipping in crosses
• 56:02
  from the right side. He's probably going to play a
• 56:04
  little bit more of a of a CDM role as well, some games when
• 56:08
  he's actually fit. So yeah, I'm not interested
• 56:11
  either. Not to mention, like it seems
• 56:13
  like they've, they've really learned their lesson with him
• 56:16
  and are really, really cautious about how much he's playing and
• 56:19
  which is like in the long run good.
• 56:21
  But like that I don't think he's suddenly gonna like play 30 plus
• 56:24
  games looking at a guy. I think we're looking at a guy
• 56:27
  that's gonna, you know, even when he does start games isn't
• 56:30
  going to finish games fair. And yeah, and I think like on
• 56:34
  that, I, I, I kind of like Goose Malagusa as like a late round
• 56:37
  like kind of sneaky pick too for that, for those for all the
• 56:39
  reasons that we just talked about.
• 56:41
  I think, yeah, I mean, if you're, we call it drafting for
• 56:46
  early fixtures. So like you treat the last few
• 56:48
  rounds as guys you you want to stream or, or start game week 1.
• 56:53
  And Chelsea's early fixtures are good and like you can get there.
• 56:57
  They're defenders like Leroy Caldwell pretty cheap in the
• 57:01
  draft. So you can get a defender 3-4
• 57:04
  really late. That's that has a pretty good
• 57:06
  schedule that you'll you'll likely want to start at least
• 57:08
  the first few weeks. So yeah, I don't mind that
• 57:10
  either. That's a good shot.
• 57:12
  All right, so those are our my guys and our do not draft guys
• 57:18
  last little section Ryan before we before we let you go.
• 57:21
  I like some fun like. Quick, quick fire.
• 57:24
  Would you rather guys? So just kind of real quick, just
• 57:26
  for off the top of your head, would you rather Jon Pedro or
• 57:29
  Hugo Katika? This is a really good one.
• 57:33
  I know it's quick fire but it really depends on if he's
• 57:36
  outcomes. If he doesn't, then I got to
• 57:41
  give the edge to to Katika, despite the fact that he didn't
• 57:44
  score that many goals in Bundesliga and Joe Pedro hit the
• 57:49
  ground running in the Club World Cup.
• 57:51
  But I got AI got to go with that Katiki there by a smidge.
• 57:54
  If if he's like comes, it's it's easily Joe Pedro.
• 57:57
  I kind of lean Pedro. I just feel like it's known
• 57:59
  commodity in, in the first 3 rounds.
• 58:01
  That's why I want like safety more than than like the unknown.
• 58:06
  So that's like, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's a mark.
• 58:08
  Like I said, it's more of a tick preference thing, you know?
• 58:11
  What do you guys think? I'm with Joe Pedro.
• 58:13
  It's funny because everything Ryan said is why I was doing
• 58:16
  probably more Gia Pedro, like Hugo IK TK didn't really score
• 58:20
  too much in the Bundesliga. Not saying he ain't going to do
• 58:22
  it at Liverpool, but also the idea that, you know, Liverpool's
• 58:26
  splashing around that Coutinho money, they're probably going to
• 58:28
  get his sack. And pedro's already done it.
• 58:31
  And I've already seen him score a couple bangers for Chelsea.
• 58:33
  And I know we mentioned before he was, we were talking about
• 58:36
  how his career has ruined now he went to Chelsea, but he's
• 58:38
  already looked like he's stepping into the fray, running
• 58:40
  the front lines. So I think Pedro.
• 58:42
  For me, we'll say against Pedro is the fact that he will rotate
• 58:48
  quite a bit. Plus he he really dined off of
• 58:52
  penalties at Brighton. He's not going to have that with
• 58:54
  Palmer at Chelsea. So like those are the two Dings
• 58:56
  on him. Gotcha, I thought you were going
• 58:58
  to say because he punches people in the face and gets red cards.
• 59:01
  Well, yeah, I mean, if he was, if he was decent at it, he would
• 59:04
  have gotten the red card. But he whiffed.
• 59:06
  So yeah, he's doesn't have the best temperament.
• 59:10
  Gotcha, he got. It I'm team drop Pedro no
• 59:13
  commodity yeah all. Right next one.
• 59:17
  Lewis Hall or Aaron Wambasaka. AWB for me.
• 59:20
  I like the upside of fall, but AWB is going to is a is a sure
• 59:25
  thing. Yeah, man, he's a ghost point
• 59:28
  killer right there. So I like AWB also.
• 59:31
  I am the same. I like Wanda socket.
• 59:34
  I think it's just also it's like he offers kind of both sides.
• 59:36
  He's really good defensively. I think he's like some of the
• 59:38
  really like high tackle numbers and like he offers some
• 59:42
  something an attack too said to me.
• 59:43
  It's just like where you're getting points is so
• 59:46
  well-rounded. And yeah, easy one there for me,
• 59:49
  just. Curious to see that there was
• 59:51
  him. Got Kyle Walker Peters over the
• 59:56
  summer, but I guess, I guess that's just kind of covering the
• 59:59
  departure of Sioux Fall. But yeah, I was kind of curious
• 1:00:03
  that they got a backup right back.
• 1:00:04
  And they got, yeah, they've gone for free, too.
• 1:00:07
  So I think it's more, more coverage than anything.
• 1:00:09
  And you know, Araman Bazaka does, you know, since he left
• 1:00:12
  Man United, he's a little Brazilian.
• 1:00:14
  So I think he'll be fine. Dual completions and all that.
• 1:00:16
  It's doing crossovers. That's what happens.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah. I'm Louis telogist cuz I like
• 1:00:24
  the Newcastle defense more and just overall as a team.
• 1:00:27
  And you're anti Washington? You're Washington?
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. Slash all right, so you gotta.
• 1:00:34
  Stop very consistent Dansgart or savio.
• 1:00:37
  I'm also gonna kind of talk my way out of this, but Savio, if
• 1:00:43
  you have, if you have, say, Foden, if you have a Man City
• 1:00:47
  cover, I like I like the upside of Savio.
• 1:00:49
  If you don't just as a one for one, like if I'm just going to
• 1:00:53
  draft one or the other, then it's Damsgard.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah, I'm going to say Damsgard also, just because I feel like
• 1:00:58
  he's, I don't have to wake up at 4:30 and think if he's going to
• 1:01:00
  be stalling or not. So I'm going to go Damsgard just
• 1:01:04
  because I think there's a little bit more upside and consistency.
• 1:01:07
  Dude, how do you on the That's a good point on the West Coast.
• 1:01:09
  I don't know how you guys would deal with pep roulette.
• 1:01:11
  Like I'm assuming in your league.
• 1:01:12
  Like nobody takes Man City players.
• 1:01:15
  It's freaking horrible. Just you get buried sometimes.
• 1:01:18
  Well, you're waking up at 4:15 AM in the morning just to check
• 1:01:21
  lineup. Yeah, I do that shit too on the
• 1:01:23
  East Coast, But it's like, man, West Coast, it's a no joke. 7:30
• 1:01:27
  Oh big deal, that's like. That's.
• 1:01:31
  Like that's the waking up. At 7:00, I mean, that's the.
• 1:01:34
  Only single person here. You know how many times I've
• 1:01:36
  gotten home like at 2:30 drunk and had to wake up at 4:30?
• 1:01:39
  To starting or not? You poor, you poor thing.
• 1:01:43
  I know, so sorry. Give me set my alarm at 4:30 and
• 1:01:47
  let me take Savio. I think the upside with Savio,
• 1:01:49
  I, I just get so nervous with Damsgard with just what it's
• 1:01:52
  going to look like. And it's also just been like
• 1:01:53
  with Dams, like it's easy to forget that it's been only one
• 1:01:56
  really, really good year for him.
• 1:01:58
  I don't think, you know, I think there's a lot of, we're really
• 1:02:01
  excited about it coming to the league and then what was it 2
• 1:02:03
  years ago? They're just kind of a not much.
• 1:02:06
  It was terrible. It was an injury, yeah.
• 1:02:09
  So like I I kind of like Savio, but I think around your point, I
• 1:02:13
  think it's so team instruction based, right.
• 1:02:15
  If you if you end up mid in the first forward and 2nd and then
• 1:02:18
  you're in that third, I think I might go Savio.
• 1:02:20
  But if I'm like a Ford, if I don't have like strong mid cover
• 1:02:23
  behind, then I think you go dams guard just for safety.
• 1:02:26
  If you want to hear the most like pro dams guard spiel from
• 1:02:30
  somebody like Toddy is like the true true believer in dams guard
• 1:02:33
  this season so. Interesting.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah, I don't believe in it. All right.
• 1:02:39
  Would you rather Madison or MGWII think that this one might
• 1:02:43
  have been put in before after? Did you do this one the?
• 1:02:46
  Sense I did this one the thing I did it.
• 1:02:49
  I did it. You probably thought they were
• 1:02:50
  going to be fine together. No, no, I did this, I did this,
• 1:02:53
  I did this afterwards, I just. Want to say I think it's kind of
• 1:02:56
  easy then. Go on then.
• 1:02:58
  That's. Yeah, it's MGW for sure.
• 1:02:59
  Yeah, and I'm down on MGW too. Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Chico, you're the same, right? We're all Chico's like Chico.
• 1:03:05
  So we just arrived. We just found our job.
• 1:03:08
  He does like matters, but I think he knows.
• 1:03:09
  I think he knows, even I. I mean, obviously if I know
• 1:03:12
  Madison's starting every game, then I'll go matters, but just
• 1:03:15
  the fact that MGW is going to start every game, so.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah. I mean when when was the last
• 1:03:20
  time Madison started every game? Was.
• 1:03:23
  It two season. City, 1819.
• 1:03:26
  And it ruined. Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  And it's a. Long time ago.
• 1:03:28
  Yeah, exactly. And they got relegated.
• 1:03:31
  The most 2018-2019 started 35 games.
• 1:03:34
  Oh. Wow, I wish I did.
• 1:03:36
  That off the top of that off the top of my head.
• 1:03:39
  No, you too. That was pretty good, man.
• 1:03:41
  No, you're nobles all right. Last one, Yokers or Watkins?
• 1:03:47
  No Arsenal bias. All right, fair enough, Yokers.
• 1:03:55
  No man, it's Watkins is an interesting one.
• 1:03:59
  I, I, you can see that he's declined and it was weird that
• 1:04:06
  they didn't really, Emery didn't really trust him last season
• 1:04:09
  just out of nowhere with Duran and then even with, with
• 1:04:13
  Rashford coming in. And so like, I don't think Villa
• 1:04:16
  is going to be great this season.
• 1:04:18
  And even though there are obvious risks with, with
• 1:04:20
  Gilkresh, I'd rather swing for the fences with him then then
• 1:04:24
  yeah, be disappointed with, with Watkins.
• 1:04:25
  So yeah, give me give me Gilkresh and then give me some
• 1:04:28
  Kai cover in the 5th. Yeah, he goes going Gilkresh as
• 1:04:34
  well. You know, I'm drafting from the
• 1:04:37
  12, so this was actually kind of like I wanted to, but it sounds
• 1:04:44
  like, yeah, but it sounds like a might not even be there.
• 1:04:47
  But I'm kind of leaning that way too.
• 1:04:49
  I like, I like part of me really likes Watkins and it's just like
• 1:04:52
  a known modity element. But I think that one is might be
• 1:04:56
  we know a little too well. And I think we know the fact
• 1:04:58
  that if Emory, it's like Emory. It's like that meme of like the
• 1:05:01
  guy looking like with the girl like looking behind him.
• 1:05:03
  Like if there's anyone else, it seems like he's looking over his
• 1:05:07
  shoulder and he's looking over his shoulder at that other
• 1:05:08
  striker, you know, from last year.
• 1:05:11
  So yeah, it makes Watkins just makes me a little nervous.
• 1:05:14
  Ryan, have you seen this meme? Someone posts it.
• 1:05:17
  I don't know if his shows are not.
• 1:05:19
  Yeah, that's that's a classic. No.
• 1:05:22
  You know, sheer no chubby see, no chubby speak.
• 1:05:27
  I didn't see that one. I should like that on the post.
• 1:05:30
  I think Watkins is more of a I'm I'm worried that Watkins is a
• 1:05:34
  trap player, that we're going on past events and that we're
• 1:05:37
  hoping. I like Watkins, had him last
• 1:05:40
  season explaining he'd do the same thing he did two seasons
• 1:05:41
  ago but and he still had a decent season.
• 1:05:45
  That's the thing, I feel like, I think the issue with Watkins is
• 1:05:47
  that he was being drafted too high.
• 1:05:49
  I think people, people were, I mean, we were calling it out and
• 1:05:52
  I'm sure you guys were too. Ryan, just like, yeah, the year
• 1:05:55
  where he was so good, the assist numbers were just absurd and
• 1:05:58
  like his XA was absurd. And just you just knew that was
• 1:06:00
  going to come back down. And then you obviously didn't
• 1:06:02
  anticipate the fact that he was not going to be like getting
• 1:06:05
  subbed off in 60th minute for Duran.
• 1:06:07
  But you don't know with all that, even with all that, we
• 1:06:10
  knew that he oh, that that probably wasn't going to return
• 1:06:12
  value. And Sergei is being sure to
• 1:06:14
  remind us that Enzo drafted Watkins first.
• 1:06:18
  Crude to the second. James, WP, 4th.
• 1:06:20
  Septemberville 6th. Oh my God, that.
• 1:06:23
  Was a hell of a. That was a hell of a team, bruv.
• 1:06:27
  He managed to win what was it, 1213 games in a row.
• 1:06:31
  I did. I went on AI, went on a 13
• 1:06:33
  game-winning streak, and then it went to Shift.
• 1:06:35
  Averaging 85 points a game. I told you it was actually no,
• 1:06:38
  because actually Young got benched.
• 1:06:40
  He was winning me games every week.
• 1:06:41
  He was. Yeah, he was.
• 1:06:42
  Wow. He was pretty.
• 1:06:43
  Ashley Young was pretty incredible for a period of time.
• 1:06:46
  Do I had Ashley Young and I had Kyle Hadlerts on that team?
• 1:06:49
  Nice. You can just see my team just
• 1:06:51
  fell up halfway through his season and it was done.
• 1:06:53
  No, that's not the reason you lost.
• 1:06:56
  Sounds like that draft might have had something to do.
• 1:06:58
  Yeah, we called it. You had the worst draft by far.
• 1:07:01
  Oh. My.
• 1:07:03
  When are you guys drafted draft? But we have one on the 10th and
• 1:07:08
  then we're going to do the other on the what?
• 1:07:09
  That's the season, 13th, the 15th.
• 1:07:12
  So we're doing it on the 13th. Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Oh, nice. Yeah, those are the.
• 1:07:16
  One on the 10th. Oh yeah, one of.
• 1:07:18
  The drafting first in both leagues.
• 1:07:21
  How did? You pull that.
• 1:07:23
  One out you're. Off So the in one of my leagues,
• 1:07:26
  we do the draft choice based on your league position in the
• 1:07:30
  previous season. So I won last year, so I got
• 1:07:32
  first choice. So I, I love that system.
• 1:07:36
  So it's not like if you win, you get first, you get first choice.
• 1:07:39
  So I technically could have picked like 12th or whatever but
• 1:07:43
  I'm you wanted first and then the other one was just the
• 1:07:45
  randomizer. So I'm curious with with that in
• 1:07:48
  mind, were you thinking you get obviously you got like an elite
• 1:07:50
  player with probably soccer, Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  And then but then like about the turn, right, That's kind of what
• 1:07:55
  the. Yeah, yeah, I have a like on the
• 1:07:58
  way. Back so the two.
• 1:07:59
  Three, I have a plan, I have a plan for that 2-3 but it's it's
• 1:08:03
  dependent on they get. Picked up or not?
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, these like 3 players if not like it's goes to shit
• 1:08:09
  pretty quick, but I'm I'm hoping with Ekatsika and Yokrev coming
• 1:08:13
  in then it's like I'll be assured of one of those players
• 1:08:16
  going to the to the second and third, but are.
• 1:08:18
  You going to be taking the same player in both of the drafts.
• 1:08:21
  It's a great question and one I've been really going back and
• 1:08:24
  forth on. And yeah, I think I've said it
• 1:08:27
  on the fact that it's going to take Sakan both.
• 1:08:28
  What the hell? Surprise, surprise.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. No, I thought about selling it.
• 1:08:33
  I thought about selling it honestly just to like, you know,
• 1:08:36
  differentiate. I don't want to.
• 1:08:38
  Go like I would if it was me. Obviously I'm not an Arsenal.
• 1:08:41
  Yeah, and. I would go call Palmer and
• 1:08:42
  socket just in case. Like one of them you know shit.
• 1:08:44
  So no, I definitely, I definitely thought about it for
• 1:08:47
  sure and just to like mix it up a bit, but I just don't think I
• 1:08:51
  can bring myself to do it. You're not worried about noni
• 1:08:53
  matter working like taking up some minutes.
• 1:08:57
  Yeah, not, not so much. I have kind of started to talk
• 1:09:01
  myself into maybe taking him in like the 9th just for just the
• 1:09:04
  hell of it, but. Security shit.
• 1:09:07
  Arsenal is like a funny team because they're probably going
• 1:09:10
  to finish with like second top three.
• 1:09:12
  I've never heard a team get so much shit for your best.
• 1:09:18
  Your best league position in the entire Premier League history
• 1:09:22
  was second. You would you would pillage last
• 1:09:24
  season to get second. We we, we should have won that
• 1:09:27
  scene too, but fucking Lester went on the fucking tear for
• 1:09:30
  some reason. Yeah, you should have.
• 1:09:32
  You also kind of just you dropped off too and also Chelsea
• 1:09:36
  scored that amazing goal against you guys.
• 1:09:38
  OK, let's not bring up the past now.
• 1:09:39
  Let's move forward. Hey Ryan, we did our we did our
• 1:09:43
  drafted yesterday. It was actually fun.
• 1:09:44
  We had like a barbecue and a bunch of us were there and we I
• 1:09:46
  handed out a, a pack of 2425 Panini prison cards.
• 1:09:51
  Every guy man, they gotta open the pack and whoever their their
• 1:09:55
  play with the highest fan track score was their golf position.
• 1:09:59
  So. That's.
• 1:09:59
  Amazing all you were 1 so it's a really fun.
• 1:10:03
  That's really cool. Enzo got Enzo pulled out.
• 1:10:06
  His best card was a fill phone, so he's drafting 12.
• 1:10:08
  Or 10. Unlucky man, unlucky fucking.
• 1:10:13
  Shit, yeah. You have to take yo grace there
• 1:10:15
  man. That's what I was thinking and I
• 1:10:18
  don't want to do it, but I might have to, but we'll see.
• 1:10:19
  Do you have a do you have a new Arsenal policy?
• 1:10:22
  No, I don't have a new Arsenal policy.
• 1:10:24
  I had Kai Havas last season. Oh yeah, I have AI have a known
• 1:10:28
  know Man United policy and I've I've had it since I started in
• 1:10:31
  2015. I've never rostered a Man United
• 1:10:34
  player. Really.
• 1:10:35
  I have a yeah, I have a new policy where it's no new
• 1:10:37
  promoted team policy. I don't want to do that.
• 1:10:40
  Yep. So Yep.
• 1:10:42
  It's been a few years since we saw some good like I remember
• 1:10:45
  there was a remember like Mitovich when he came up was
• 1:10:47
  like so good or like Ivan Tony when he came up.
• 1:10:49
  But it's, it's been a while since there's been a player
• 1:10:51
  that's like. Alfie Dali Lewin was pretty
• 1:10:54
  good. Solid but.
• 1:10:55
  You didn't have to, you didn't have to draft him.
• 1:10:58
  And that's, that's one of the points I make.
• 1:10:59
  And so in my overvalued article, I have a section on promoted
• 1:11:03
  players every season because it's the dynamic is always the
• 1:11:06
  same. Yeah, that's a that's a good
• 1:11:09
  read, that one. But yeah, it's it's a trap every
• 1:11:12
  season. So I'm assuming I'm assuming
• 1:11:15
  you're not a bigger Dingray fan then?
• 1:11:17
  Nope. In my overvalued article.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, not not touching it with a 10 foot pole.
• 1:11:22
  Which you can you can read at Draft Society.
• 1:11:25
  That's right. You can subscribe to the draft
• 1:11:27
  kit there a. Lot of good stuff in it, yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Are you guys, are you guys even subscribers?
• 1:11:33
  I subscribe, good man. Today, funny enough, yeah.
• 1:11:36
  I I hope you draft better this season based off of that
• 1:11:38
  analysis. I.
• 1:11:39
  Need all the fucking help I can get, I can tell you that right
• 1:11:42
  now. And so and so was running and so
• 1:11:44
  running our vibes. He needed a little something.
• 1:11:46
  He needed a little more beat in that.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, I. Like the vibes.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, I like the. Vibes just yeah, mix it up with
• 1:11:53
  you can have your a couple of vibe pics, but also mix it up
• 1:11:55
  with some some reasoned analysis as well.
• 1:11:58
  And shy to ask you this question so I'm asked on his behalf.
• 1:12:01
  He wanted to know if you could contribute to society and just
• 1:12:04
  put a ranking of like people's like social life, like personal
• 1:12:06
  life, if they're having a fairest kids, all of that.
• 1:12:10
  You can just. Make it.
• 1:12:10
  Yeah. Like, it's more like a message
• 1:12:12
  board than a ranking. You know, it's like, it's like
• 1:12:14
  Gossip Girl. Gossip Girl I do like.
• 1:12:17
  That my Twitter feed, the algorithm definitely like leans
• 1:12:20
  towards telling me if a if a if a player just had a kid.
• 1:12:23
  So like I can feed you that. For sure.
• 1:12:26
  What about what about breakups? You know, like how Enzo
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  Fernandez went off after did his wife day.
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  Do you have anything? Like that, yeah, I don't think
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  the algos picked that up yet, but okay.
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  Yeah, obviously just important. Complex.
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  Yeah, it's a little complex. Justin Kleiber, too, had a
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  newborn in the end of season, fell off a Cliff.
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  Yeah, it's a thing, man. It's.
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  A real It's a real thing. I'm telling you, Pep was having
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  a bad time with misses and look at man, see.
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  Yeah, that's the real thing too. I mean, same thing happened,
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  Thomas. And so there's something there.
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  Same thing happened Thomas too. Cool.
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  When he started really sucking for Chelsea, he was getting an.
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  Advance why don't you just make like this fake Instagram page of
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  like a very attractive person and just sorry gaming player.
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  See who responds to it doesn't respond to it.
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  A little cap. I like it.
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  No, thank you. I ain't got no time.
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  All right, all. Right, well, this has been
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  episode 99 of Draft Offsides. My name is Keith, Chico Enzo and
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  our special guest Ryan. Ryan, thanks so much for coming
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  Thanks boys. Appreciate it.