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55KRC Tuesday Show - Peter Bronson, Tom Z, Breitbart, Deep Dive · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five KRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, Honor Flight Tuesday. Call Kenny Loggins because you're
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  Speaker 1: in the danger zone. Perhaps maybe not Donald Trump, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: says crazy stuff going on the runnings don't want to
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  Speaker 1: negotiate and the bombs will start dropping at eight pm.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently Donald Trump could change his mind. He's done it before.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, folks. Brian Thomas right here and glad to
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  Speaker 1: look up and see my screen Joe's trackers where he belongs.
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  Speaker 1: Executive producer Joe Strecker back from vacation. Joe, I hope
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  Speaker 1: you had a real nice day off and that you
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed your Easter weekend as we all did. Coming up
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  Speaker 1: on the fifty five KRC Morning Show, man, I dearly love.
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  Speaker 1: I just got a lot of respect for Peter Bronson.
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  Speaker 1: He writes great books and he'll be in studio coming
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  Speaker 1: up seven oh five. First Guests of the Morning at
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  Speaker 1: seven o five. Peter Bronson on the twenty fifth anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Riots. So he wrote a book about that,
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: and I guess that's where Iris Rawley came from. Talked
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  Speaker 1: about that quite a bit yesterday with Christopher Smitheman, who
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  Speaker 1: was on the phone for Art. He was in studio
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: for a couple of hours doing breakdown of city issues.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: City issues which include, oh, maybe there won't be an
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  Speaker 1: increase in the income tax. Mayor Purval was interested in
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: hiking the income tax, and of course the City of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati residents will get us say in that. I've got
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  Speaker 1: a little few details on that. Also updated on PG
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  Speaker 1: sitting Feld's legal troubles which appear to be completely over anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Robinson for a half hour in studio Tom Zawastowski.
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  Speaker 1: It's that time of the week where we the people
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  Speaker 1: Convention dot Org Tom Zawastowski and with Tom we'll be
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  Speaker 1: talking about early voting as well as his analysis about
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  Speaker 1: who is in the primaries. Got primary coming up. Remember
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  Speaker 1: you gotta get out and vote inside it scooped the
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  Speaker 1: bright Bart News It is Tuesday. Would do that every
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday at eight o five Today Entertainment editor Jerom Hudson,
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  Speaker 1: What yeah, they've got one of those. He's worked in
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  Speaker 1: Government Accountability Institute, author, investigative journalists, and political commentator began
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  Speaker 1: writing for breitbarton twenty thirteen, specializing in well Hollywood basically
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  Speaker 1: like God, do you want to hear about Hollywood? Well,
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  Speaker 1: in this particular case, probably empower you. Seminar Hollywood pop culture,
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  Speaker 1: entertainment and politics. Why we haven't given up on the culture.
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  Speaker 1: Breitbarton News Entertainment editor Jerom Hudson will talk about Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: pop culture, entertainment and how they influence politics and the
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  Speaker 1: most important point, how we can push back. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: choose to pushback by ignoring it. Joe, do you pay
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  Speaker 1: attention to anything anybody from Hollywood ever? Says no? And
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  Speaker 1: I like Breitbarton. I always give them props. I rely
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  Speaker 1: on Breitbart. You get a lot of the great reporting. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: what are the criticism that I'll be honest with you
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  Speaker 1: I had with Breitbart is when they provide a quote
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  Speaker 1: from Rosy O'Donnell or someone, It's like, why are you
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  Speaker 1: giving them any press time whatsoever? If you just ignore them,
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  Speaker 1: it's as if they don't exist. We know all know
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  Speaker 1: what opinions are, Like, everybody's got one, and why would
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  Speaker 1: you care what Rosie O'Donnell or fill in the Black,
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  Speaker 1: Robert de Niro all the other celebrities that seem to
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  Speaker 1: pop up regularly involving matters political so you can ignore
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  Speaker 1: them and choose to think, well, what do I care
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  Speaker 1: what they think? Maybe you enjoy their movies. That's a
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  Speaker 1: different thing. It's the whole shut up and sing thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you go to a Bruce Springsteen concert, assuming you
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  Speaker 1: like Bruce Springsteen to start with, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear him sing songs or do you want to hear
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  Speaker 1: him go on and rant about matters political right, shut
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  Speaker 1: up and sing. I didn't pay to hear get a
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  Speaker 1: political speech if you wrote on your ticket or you
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  Speaker 1: sold the concert. As we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: politics in between, which I will be singing some of
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  Speaker 1: my songs. At least you go in eyes wide open. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: we'll hear from Jerome Hudson eight oh five, follow by
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  Speaker 1: yes to Daniel Davis deep dive. I'm really curious to
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  Speaker 1: see what retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis says to say
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  Speaker 1: about this ultimatum, which it may very well lead to
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  Speaker 1: mass bombing tonight. A lot of international community commentators suggesting
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is getting ready to commit war crimes. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a gray fuzzy definition of what a military
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  Speaker 1: target is and what an all civilian target is. And
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  Speaker 1: then there's that huge gray area that seems to be indefinable. Military,
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  Speaker 1: of course, uses power and the grid, right, Okay, requires
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  Speaker 1: electricity to run a military It requires fuel to fuel
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  Speaker 1: jets and other military vehicles, stating the obvious. But of
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  Speaker 1: course people rely on that stuff too. So how do
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  Speaker 1: you draw a distinction between what's a pure what's a
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  Speaker 1: military objective, a legitimate target, and one that is not. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: negotiators currently pess some that Iron's going to step up
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  Speaker 1: to the plate. They rejected the demands of the Trump
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  Speaker 1: administration in spite of the fact that he has threatened
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  Speaker 1: to unleash hell on the Iranian infrastructure, talking about blowing
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  Speaker 1: up gas facilities, bridges, and power stations. Set a deadline
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  Speaker 1: tonight eight pm. He's going to bomb the country if
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  Speaker 1: they don't comply with his demands. They have rejected them.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's observed that Trump could extend the deadline. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know whether he will or not. I'm anxious to
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  Speaker 1: hear what Daniel Davis says to say about that prediction.
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  Speaker 1: Iranian officials have told mediators they expect the United States
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  Speaker 1: is just going to continue attacking targets while this is
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  Speaker 1: going on. And they don't view it as an appropriate
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  Speaker 1: time to be negotiating when we are unleashing regular bombing
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  Speaker 1: campaigns on them. Trump told reporters yesterday Iran was, in
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  Speaker 1: his words, negotiating, we think in good faith, that's a quote,
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  Speaker 1: but then pointing out the US will be blowing everything
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  Speaker 1: up if they don't come up to some agreement. Part
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  Speaker 1: of the gray area is we're still sort of struggling
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  Speaker 1: with who in the hell in Iran is the one
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  Speaker 1: are the ones responsible for negotiation because we killed a
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  Speaker 1: lot of their senior leaders, So gray area there, and
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  Speaker 1: of course Pakistan and other countries have been sort of
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  Speaker 1: acting as intermediaries to sort of facilitate these conversations. But again,
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  Speaker 1: as of right now, there has been no agreement. White
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  Speaker 1: House spokesman Anna Kelly. Only President Trump knows what he
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  Speaker 1: will do, and the entire world will find out tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 1: That will be tonight eight pm. If bridges and electric
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  Speaker 1: plants are annihilated. Wow, what you think about it? Five one, three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: four nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two
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  Speaker 1: to three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phone.
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  Speaker 1: So there's your there's your issue of the day. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this humanitarian a rather war crimes element that goes into this,
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  Speaker 1: let's see here stating the obvious Wall Street generally observes,
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  Speaker 1: don't expect Iran's regimes to care much about what strikes
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  Speaker 1: on the civil We'll call it civilian infrastructure. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it's civilian. I'm not conceding the point that it's
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  Speaker 1: a war crime. But the infrastructure that so many civilians
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  Speaker 1: in Iran rely upon, electricity and oil and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: They don't expect the regime to carry at a whit
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  Speaker 1: about what those strikes will do to its own people.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they've been out mowing them down with machine
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  Speaker 1: guns in the streets, they say many experts this could
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  Speaker 1: spark a refugee crisis if the strikes are well on
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  Speaker 1: the infrastructure in the grid striking indiscriminately result in punishing
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian people that we of course need. On side
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  Speaker 1: Trump's comment in response to that quote, they would be
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  Speaker 1: willing to suffer that in order to have freedom, he
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  Speaker 1: can hope, and I'm sure there's certain people within the
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  Speaker 1: Iranian regime that's reaching out to American authorities that have
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  Speaker 1: conveyed that message to them. But will they. I also
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  Speaker 1: note that in a corollary article, Trump acknowledged the other
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  Speaker 1: day that he had tried to send guns to the
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  Speaker 1: Iranian protesters via the Kurds. Didn't quite work out, and
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  Speaker 1: that raised a little red flag to me the Kurds. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a disarmed populace, to all my Second
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  Speaker 1: Amendment hating friends, if you have a disarmed populace, your
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  Speaker 1: government can mow you down on the streets. Get it,
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  Speaker 1: and then you might be reliant upon some other foreign
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  Speaker 1: country to provide you with arms if you want to
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  Speaker 1: engage in an armed struggle against your oppressive government. Gee,
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  Speaker 1: how do the United States get four in the first place?
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  Speaker 1: What was the predicate for the Revolutionary War? Oh, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: we had muskets and we were being ill treated by
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  Speaker 1: King George and the Brits. Summarizing a large chunk of
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  Speaker 1: American history in a sentence. But there you have it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's an illustration of why we
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  Speaker 1: should be very thrilled the world. We do have a
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  Speaker 1: Second Amendment. And yes, as so many other countries have
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  Speaker 1: realized asymmetric war. Right, Joe Biden would try to say
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  Speaker 1: that you don't have an F sixteen. You can't fight
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  Speaker 1: back a government with an armed military the way the
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  Speaker 1: United States has an armed military. Suggesting maybe an F
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  Speaker 1: fifteen might start at F sixteen, might start dropping bombs
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  Speaker 1: in your neighborhood should you choose to engage an insurrection,
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  Speaker 1: engage an insurrection against your government? Not likely. And considering
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  Speaker 1: the vast swath of land this comes up all the time.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about Iran here. It's two point four times
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  Speaker 1: the size of Texas. That is a mass quantity of
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  Speaker 1: land for the largest military in the United States. Yep,
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  Speaker 1: even that represents a Sissaphian challenge to the biggest military
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Well, the United States is a lot
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  Speaker 1: bigger than Texas. American military has a finite number of
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  Speaker 1: military members, many of whom I would argue wouldn't turn
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  Speaker 1: guns on their own people here, and there are literally
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  Speaker 1: tens of hundreds of millions of guns throughout the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America. So you draw your own conclusions whether
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  Speaker 1: asymmetric warfare can actually be waged against an impressive government. No,
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  Speaker 1: this is not me advocating for the overthrow. It's just
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  Speaker 1: me reminding people why the Second Amendment is so damn important.
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  Speaker 1: Five sixteen fifty five Koscy talk station. Look, Cribbage, MIC's
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  Speaker 1: on the phone, and I got Dan as well. So
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  Speaker 1: hold on, guys, gonna take your calls right out of
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  Speaker 1: the gate because I know cribbage Mike is at CVG
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  Speaker 1: for Honor flight right now. I'll be right back. He's
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's number one enemy. And you know it's honor
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  Speaker 1: flight Tuesday. Everybody needs to be at CED tonight by
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  Speaker 1: about eight thirty or so for the welcome home ceremony.
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  Speaker 1: Let us start with curbage, Mike. Hang on, because I
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  Speaker 1: got Dan Carroll on the phone. Dan, who's cover for
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  Speaker 1: me when I'm off? Dan, Welcome to the show Man,
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  Speaker 1: gave your life?
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  Speaker 2: Ye do it again? They didn't get you Dan. Hello, Thomas,
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  Speaker 2: how are you? I got Papis's. PAPIs is bugging me over,
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  Speaker 2: so I was Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me that that says it all and we all
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  Speaker 1: get it.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me when you get in your wheelchair and stop
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  Speaker 2: fighting it so you can you can hear it. You
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  Speaker 2: can hear him right now. But yeah, we just got
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  Speaker 2: here to the airport a little while ago, and like
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  Speaker 2: you said, eight thirty tonight is really the thing. And look,
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  Speaker 2: you know the job that that Tom and Cheryl Pop
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  Speaker 2: have done with honor flight. And it was about three
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  Speaker 2: four weeks ago. I got a message from Cheryl and
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  Speaker 2: she said, would you please come on the honor flight?
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  Speaker 2: And there was no way I was going to say no.
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  Speaker 2: I actually went on one back in two thousand and five.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm twenty one years later, I get to go
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  Speaker 2: on a honor flight again, and you're in and you're
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  Speaker 2: absolute and you're in a wheelchair and I am not
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  Speaker 2: in a wheelchair. Papus has given me a hard time.
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  Speaker 2: But we've got eighty believe the number is eighty five
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  Speaker 2: vets on this eighty eight vets on this flight, the
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  Speaker 2: vast majority of them Vietnam era veterans. And we've so
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  Speaker 2: we've got just three or four vets from Korea, and
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  Speaker 2: you know what happens. We're going to head to d
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  Speaker 2: C here about seven, a little after seven this morning.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be in DC all day. We'll visit the Vietnam Memorial,
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  Speaker 2: we'll visit the World War II Memorial, we'll visit Arlington
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  Speaker 2: National Cemetery. It's just a huge day. And then of
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  Speaker 2: course when these veterans come back after that emotion pack
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  Speaker 2: day be in here tonight at eight thirty tonight. If
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening to us right now, and you've never
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to do that before, do yourself a
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  Speaker 2: favor if you have the time, if you're available, to
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  Speaker 2: come out to the airport at eight thirty ten, and
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  Speaker 2: c Meg really makes it easy, yes, because you walk in,
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  Speaker 2: they've got they've got the whole area set up, and
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  Speaker 2: it's your part if you walk in and you greet
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  Speaker 2: these veterans when they return, and it's just something like
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  Speaker 2: you can't even I can't even describe how it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be when those veterans come back. So Pappus is
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  Speaker 2: begging for the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, I gotta tell you a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times these veterans are very very cooperative. However, Dan Carroll
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  Speaker 3: is anything but cooperative. I'm gonna have to taze him
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  Speaker 3: here in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Good, I'll I'll be able to see the viral video
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  Speaker 1: later this morning of you chasing Dan Carroll.
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  Speaker 3: He's fighting the wheelchair and I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: Why, Okay, trying to make sense of what you two
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  Speaker 1: guys are talking about this morning. It's a it's it's difficult.
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  Speaker 3: It's I'll tell you you know it is it is early,
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  Speaker 3: and but to see so many and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: these veterans don't see you know, they're up at five
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  Speaker 3: am maybe uh not necessarily getting you know, ready to
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  Speaker 3: do something.
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  Speaker 2: These guys have been here.
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  Speaker 3: We have the veterans here at five o'clock this morning,
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  Speaker 3: and they're excited. Oh yeah, we have an excited and
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  Speaker 3: our ground crew does a fantastic job. That is absolutely
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  Speaker 3: you know, they are here, some of these some of
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  Speaker 3: these ground crew got here at three thirty this morning
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  Speaker 3: getting this place ready. That's and the dedication that they
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  Speaker 3: have to this, to this is unbelievable. And we are
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  Speaker 3: really really blessed to have so many great volunteers with
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  Speaker 3: Honor Flight and first.
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  Speaker 2: Flight of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll have a full a full crew of people,
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  Speaker 3: uh and and a good crowd of people welcoming these
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  Speaker 3: guys back today.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, well for so.
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  Speaker 3: Many Vietnam veterans, it is going to be really if
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's always amazing at the Vietnam Memorial with
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  Speaker 3: Vietnam veterans, it's quite special.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Pappas and Dan Carroll can't thank you enough for
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  Speaker 1: being there for joining the flight. So the support you've
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  Speaker 1: given an Honor Flight over the years. I too have
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  Speaker 1: been on those flights, absolutely amazing, and all I can
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  Speaker 1: do is double down on your on them, encouraging you
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  Speaker 1: to be at sea tonight roughly eight thirty. Follow the people,
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  Speaker 1: follow the cars. You're gonna know exactly where to go
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  Speaker 1: and it will. And take bring tissue with you because
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  Speaker 1: you probably have allergy outbreaks. I don't know what it
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  Speaker 1: is with CVG and Honor flights, but often people have
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  Speaker 1: tremendous allergy outbreaks. It's a beautiful event, you guys. Take care. Cribbage.
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  Speaker 1: Mike is there. God bless you, Mike for all the
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  Speaker 1: work you've done for Honor Flight over the years, and
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  Speaker 1: thank you for your service to our country. Welcome back, man, Mike. Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: Oh there you are. I just introduced you. You're on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Tough act to follow with those two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you'll probably probably do a better job. They
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  Speaker 1: were talking over each other, right.
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  Speaker 4: It's so appropriate that you have Peter Bronson on because
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  Speaker 4: he collaborated with Cheryl Pop to put out a great
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  Speaker 4: book and hopefully he can speak to that out a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, because the majority of the book is actually
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  Speaker 4: letters from veterans that were on the honor flight and
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  Speaker 4: what they did in their service. So that is that
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  Speaker 4: is phenomenon. Everything he touch as golden, but that particular
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  Speaker 4: but obviously hits a home run here. But as the
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  Speaker 4: previous two gentlemen said, yeah, eighty eight veterans, eighty Vietnam,
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  Speaker 4: eight Korea, And we do a lot of fundraising to
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  Speaker 4: make this happen because all veterans. This is all our
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  Speaker 4: way of saying thank you. But we do have some
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  Speaker 4: corporate sponsors and I got a big shout out today
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  Speaker 4: for Geero Space who was sponsoring today's flight, and fifteen
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  Speaker 4: of their employees are actually guardians on this flight. Nice
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  Speaker 4: so I know last week at the guardian meeting they
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  Speaker 4: were so fired up to be appointed with veterans that
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  Speaker 4: they're going to meet today.
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  Speaker 5: So as you know, for the.
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  Speaker 4: Veterans, it'll be a day that they'll never forget, and
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  Speaker 4: especially for these guardians who may be their first time
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  Speaker 4: to be around a veteran up close and personal. This
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  Speaker 4: day is just going to be off the charts.
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  Speaker 1: I am certain it will be, and on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: all the listening audience, myself and Joe Strecker safe travels. Godspeed,
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  Speaker 1: have an enjoyable trip, and everyone's going to be there
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  Speaker 1: when you guys return again, be around CVG roughly eight thirtye.
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  Speaker 1: So so you get a place in line and salute
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  Speaker 1: the American veterans, and again bring tissue you will probably
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  Speaker 1: need it. Curbage, Mike, God bless you man. You keep
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  Speaker 1: up the great work. Have a safe flight. It's five
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  Speaker 1: twenty five right now, five twenty nine on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: at a very happy Tuesday to you, five three fifty
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred eight two to three talk. I certainly will
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  Speaker 1: ask Peter Brownson about the Honor Flight book. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about that a little bit. We'll also talk about the
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of Cincinny riots. Peter Bronson in studio
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  Speaker 1: at seven oh five. Uh, feel free to call. Tom's
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  Speaker 1: not around this morning. What's going on anyhow? After Parvall's
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: proposed income tax maybe dead on arrival. He previously proposed
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: hiking the city's income tax. Mm mmmmm, maybe cutting how
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: about how about that? Anyway? Mayor hasn't offered any proposal.
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  Speaker 1: He spoke with the Inquirer Scott Wortman interviewing Aftab Pervall
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Parvall said he wants agreement among council members in the
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  Speaker 1: city administration before moving forward with an increase. But you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: need the community buy in AFTAB, he said, al to,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't aligned on a specific amount, or on the uses,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: or on whether we should move forward or not. A
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: lot of waffleham built into that one. He said. He
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: still thinks that an income tax hike is necessary, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: maybe now is not the right time. It's got to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: go on the ballot. City leader's going to be weighing
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: economic factors and making the decision whether or not to
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  Speaker 1: move forward. Costs are rising. We all know that Court
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: of Wortmann Skin's signs of an economic slowdown. Concern AFTAB
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: pro ball He cited the war in Iran and the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: impact of President Trump's tariffs as a factor. Also, Trump
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: gets blamed for the city's problems. That's rich. I think
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the city's problems well started building up wayne advance of
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and of course the tariffs. Anyhow, city business
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: is pretty the city businesses not making as much money.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Net profits tax dipped thirty five percent year over year
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  Speaker 1: in August through October twenty twenty five. The city's finance
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: director Steve Webb, speaking with the City City Sini City
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  Speaker 1: Council in December, revealed that in the first six months
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of the fiscal year since Iity, net profits tax revenues
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: are down twenty eight percent. Net profits tax accounts for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: seventeen percent of the city's total income tax revenue, which
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is the city's largest largest source of revenue. It's a
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: total of sixty four million dollars pro of all. City
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: couldn't speak to why businesses in the city have had
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: fewer net profits. What do you think? You think, maybe, Joe,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that fewer people are going downtown and frequenting city businesses.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Could that be part of it. Maybe they're fewer city
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: businesses in the city limits to provide some of the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: tax base. I'm just speculating anyway. City administration's predicting a
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: twenty nine million dollar deficit in next year's general fun
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: budget and has recommended five percent cut. They say between
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: now in June, the city officiers is going to hash
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: out the details of the budget. Budget due in June.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: The City Council and the administration do decide to push
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the income tax hike, it will require an amendment to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the city Charter and here's where you come in. My
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: friends in City Cincinnati, voters will get the final say
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: deadline for the Charter amendment on the November ballots September fourth,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: so you'll see it coming a mile away. Councilman Mark
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Jefferies one person who doesn't think that's right time to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: raise income tax, pivoting over to Jeff Cramerting thinks it
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is a good idea to raise the income tax in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the city. Neither of them can agree on what the increase,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and by Camberton doesn't know. He thinks that makes them
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: maybe a point one five percent point increase, which had
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: been previously proposed by the Futures Commission. Pur of all,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a target amount rate. He doesn't know if
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: he wants to increase it or not. More. I love this.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: This This is not a new concept. According to Wartman's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: reporting here reminded us that more than a dozen organizations,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: including this Coalition to Groups, Greater Cincinnati Homeless Coalition, the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: ACLU of Ohio, Cincinnati Federation to Teachers. Hmmm, those three
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: organizations push for a Charter Amnagement amendment in twenty twenty
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: feet to raise the income tax. And guess what voters
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: shot it down sixty nine percent voting no. Maybe the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: writing's on the wall. If that's any indicator for what
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the city residents might say, maybe that'll give people to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the polls. If you tell them you're going to raise
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: your income tax, maybe people will actually show up and vote.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: M PG sitting fell looks like he is on his
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: way to being scott free. Convicted in twenty twenty two
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of corruption related charges in bribery, you remember, PG. Federal
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Appeals Court of held his conviction in February twenty tweive
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: entered Donald Trump, who pardoned him. US Department of Justice
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: fought emotion asking for the Supreme Court to vacate his
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: condition at convictions and dismiss the indictment with prejudice to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: give full effect to the President's pardon. So that'll end
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: at all, since there's really no judicial controversy se anymore.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much what the Supreme Court order yesterday says.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It annuls the federal court decision upholding the conviction, returning
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the case to the lower court for further consideration, which
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: means throw it out. It's all over for PG. So
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: he his record will be expunged and of course, that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: means he now will be able to run for public
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: office locally and statewide. Question, do you think that will happen?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: This is rather interesting. Prosecutors say two teenagers and a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: nineteen year old man robbed a Batavia man of thousands
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of dollars, leaving him for dead on the side of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the road in New Richmond, Dakaria Campbell, who's nineteen, along
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: with two unnamed teenage boys is now a boy's now
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: facing charges including aggravator murder aggravator robbery in connection with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the death of nineteen year old Jaden Nelson. Verman County
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Prosecutor's Office in a news release, said that Ohio State
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Highway Patrol troopers found Nelson on Bethel New Richmond Road
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: around four o'clock in the morning March eight. His death
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: was ruled a homicide and initially investigated as a hit
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and run. Prosecutors now say troopers in the Klemont County
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Corner's Office notice some irregularities that did not align with
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a hit and run. Notably, the autopsy revealed he died
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: from a gunshot wound to the head from close range. Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like hit and run death, does it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Procetuors say Campbell and the teens made the wait in
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Richmond with thousands of dollars worth of marijuana to sell
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: toon Nelson. Instead of a sale, the trio rob Nelson
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: more than three thousand dollars in his cell phone and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: then again left him dead on the side of the road.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you confuse the hit run with
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the gunshot wound. Anyway, I guess the details are working
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: themselves out. Five p thirty five right now, Stack is
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  Speaker 1: stupid coming up. Phone calls are always welcome, and go
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  Speaker 1: KRC and Deep Talk Station five on a Tuesday. Happy
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: one to you on a fly Tuesday. Try to mind
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: folks all morning. If you just tune in tonight be
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: at CVEG roughly eight thirty ish for the nine pm
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: arrival of the veterans from Modern Fly. It's a truly
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: inspirational and very patriotic thing to do, and you will
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: enjoy it, I assure you. Before I get to the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: stacker stupid. Look who's on the line, Jay Jay, Welcome
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to the morning show. Happy Tuesday to you.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: Hey, Happy Tuesday, Brian, Or should I say, happy Bridge
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: and power Plant Day.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're actually getting a cake.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: You can get kicked were Yeah, we're getting a cake.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Our family looks for anything to celebrate, so this is
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: our first annual Bridge and power Plant Day.
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: Probably should make fun of it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: But no, a little too soon. The bombing has not
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: yet begun, so normally tomorrow would be the day we'd
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: say it's too soon, Jay, don't go there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: But okay, yeah, yeah, I guess the words are out. Hey,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: I do want to give some recognition to some.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Blue twenty two rhinos as we're getting ready for primary season,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: and to emphasize the primary is whenever we have the
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: most power in election, people don't show up for the primary.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: That's why we have to hold our nose and go
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: to a general election.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: But let me give the name of the.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Of the Rhinos in the Cincinnati listening area that sided
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: up with the Democrats in the last minute, the stab
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Republicans in the back. Whenever we were selecting, they were
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: selecting our staker of the house up there in Columbus,
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Cindy Abrams District twenty nine, Eric Carruthers District forty seven,
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Gene Schmidt District sixty two, Kevin Miller District sixty nine
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: and Adam Matthews District fifty six.
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: These are all rhinos.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Do not vote for them.
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: Do not buy into all the ads talking about how
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: conservative they are until they can get on fifty five
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: KARC maybe and explain why they did what they did.
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: But so far I haven't heard that. And I know
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: you guys have an open invitation, So.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Do not vote for these rhinos.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: Matter of fact, get out in the primary and mass
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: and vote against them, and call their office and.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Let them know you're not going to vote for him and.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: Tell them why.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: There you go, and whatever you do, don't vote rhino
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: and don't vote Democrat. As my buddy Tom says, Thanks Mirian,
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: have a good day.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you to Jay, and thanks for covering for Tom
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: this morning. So he has apparently disappeared into the ether. Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that's what the Morning show is all about. Draw your
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: own conclusions and chime in. Maybe you've got a pointed
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: disagreement with Jay. That's a okay, that's why we have
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the open phone lines here in the Morning Show. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: moving away from that to the stack of stupid because
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: it's a five o'clock hour, we're all trying to wake up,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and we're all thankful that we are not in the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: stack of stupid Seattle Police Department.
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: So you.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: A thirty one year old woman was arrested over the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: weekend for allegedly stabbing a man in the back of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the head with the toothbrush. Why are you doing that?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds like something that would happen in prison, doesn't it. Joe?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Have it at Salty's Seafood Restaurant al Key Beach about
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: eleven am, please say the woman quote jabbed a thirty
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: four year old man back of the head with the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: backside of what appeared to be a toothbrush. Close quote.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Both individuals appeared to be intoxicated and there was an
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: altercation before the assault. One man sustained a scratch and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: put a bandage on his own head. According to the police,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: officers saw dry blood, but he was not actively bleeding.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Because he was uncooperative and refused medical treatment. He was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: released from the scene. Woman booked into King County Jail
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: facing charge of assault. Hek you Joe Okay Evansville, Indiana,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: where a woman has been accused of using an extension
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: court to steal her neighbor's electricity resulting in a sky
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: high electricity bill for the victim. Charles low The victim,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: veteranan cancer survivor also fighting COPD say to notice his
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: electric bill went through the roof of November, costing him
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars each month. Hey, Joe, maybe I should
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: look for an electrical cord and come out off of
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: my house into the neighbor's property. He figured out why,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: he said. My roommate told me, hey, hey, you need
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to come back here and take a look at this. Said,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: what do you mean back here and take a look
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: at this? So I went back there with him, and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: he showed me they'd run drop cords out from underneath
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: my trailer and run them to their trailer, said a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: next door neighbor. Fifty year old Tina Milburne had been
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: stealing electricity from him in his roommate for about five months.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Do what the hell?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Police said. Milburn admitted a crawling under Lowe's trailer to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: plug in the extension cords. Told police that she was
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: using electricity to power a light. Singular What he's planning
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to give Low one hundred dollars without explaining why. Lo said,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: while he is happy with the theft would stop. He's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: still stuck with paying the mass of electric bills. Centrepoint
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Energy allowed him to set up a payment plan. Beyond that,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: he said, there's nothing else he can do that. They said,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: there's nothing else he can do. Lo said, he does
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: not understand why someone would do this. Milburn charged with
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: felony burglary. That's what that is. Five forty five with
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• 29:26
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• 29:28
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• 29:30
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• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: The extended Smither event had Christopher Smithman on air in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: studio for two hours yesterday. I really enjoyed the conversations
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: about all these local topics and back over the stack
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: is stupid. I don't know what the hell this guy
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was thinking. Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Internal monologue was turned off. Petition launched in and ever
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to remove a Washington County Board of Education member. This
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: is in Jonesboro, Tennessee, and the district's superintendent over comments
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: made toward a student during a meeting in April. During
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a board of education meeting that was streamed on YouTube's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Just not that Long Ago, April, second board member Keith
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Irvin can be heard saying the following to a student
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: that was sitting next to him, a described as a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: young woman, A student I might point out a student
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: member of this board quote, God, you're hot idiots?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Do you know that?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Because they're idiots? Where do you go to school? At close?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Quote right after the comment of the student. There was
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: laughter in the meeting, but the meeting went on seemingly
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: no one acknowledged the exchange. After the meeting, then a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: petition was launched in an effort to remove Ervin and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the school superintendent, Jerry Boyd. So far, generator garding nearly
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred signatures, at least as of the reporting
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: on this one two days or yesterday, Tisian partially reads,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it is imperative that we take action now to hold
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: these officials accountable. We demand the immediate removal of both
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Jerry Boyd and Keith Irvin from their positions on the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Washington County Board of Education. Their continued presence undermines the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: trust and safety of our students. They are meant to serve.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: The students are meant to serve. They're going to be
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: having an emergency meeting on these guys and their comments tomorrow.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: If you're interested in showing up there, board, said one
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of our colleagues. Keith Irvin made a grossly inappropriate comment
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: toward our student's board member. Mister Irvin has explained that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: he meant nothing offensive and that we have simply misunderstood
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: his intentions. Joe, what do you think his intentions were?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Let me go back, God, you're hot, Ron, Do you
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: know that? Where do you go to school at? What
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: do you think his intentions were? Mister Irvan knows his
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: own intentions, but the rest of us have to judge
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: his words and his actions. What we saw was shocking.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: He objectified and diminished a young woman publicly no explanation
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: can justify that fair enough. Let's see here, Florida gotta
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: have Florida in the stack is stupid right as this
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: tradition logad deed goes unpunished and in Central Florida, Lesva
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: saying wow, sneeze button more of a legal warning. Hans
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Hamilton described as mining his own business. Driving north on
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: four to twenty nine Expressway near Walt Disney World, spotted
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a white Lexus that had kissed the guard rail of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: bit too hard and being the kind human being most
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of us only pretend to be, he pulled over to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: help this person that ended up landing him in the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: hospital with a brain bleed, a concussion, four broken ribs,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and a medical bills. Tesla captured the entire ordeal, of course,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: on its cameras. Also came out of the came out
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of it worse for wear because the man stopped to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: help use the hood and roof of it as a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: personal trampoline before things got war. Hamilton said afterward, this
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: person tried to kill me. I don't want anybody else
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to go through what I went through. Started to go
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: fund me page to help the medical expenses, which apparently
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: are very large. Hamilton first pulled over. The driver of
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the Lexus, later identified as forty four year old Daniel Coleman,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: appeared to stagger out of his car and collapse in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the grass, motionless, looking like someone who needed help. Moment
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Hamilton stepped out of his Tesla, Coleman apparently made a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: miraculous recovery, leaping up and sprinting toward the car. Jumped
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: onto the roof of Hamilton's Tesla, which caved in the windshield,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: before tackling Hamilton to the ground for nearly thirty seconds,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he threw repeated punches at Hamilton's head, face, neck, and back.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Hamilton eventually managed to break free, hitting Coleman in the throat.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Org Cotty debuty showed up to take Comen into custody.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Approached in what would be arrest report, they say diplomatically
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: calls an aggressive fighting manner. Swinging at the officer, Hamilton
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: helped Russell Comb into the ground so the debut could
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: get him in a handcuffed Man literally helped his arrest
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: his own attacker. Come in charge with battery on a
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: law enforcement officer, resisting an officer with violence, assault on
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a law enforcement officer, battery, and criminal mischief. Investigators also
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: connected him to a separate hit and run crash a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: couple of miles south and flagged him as a suspect
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in a similar incident from earlier. The same morning, Deputy's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: originally requested he'd be held without bond. Apparently this guy's
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like in Hamilton County. Judge said it at five thousand dollars.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: He also missed his ford the current of first court
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: appearance because he was hospitalized for an undisclosed reason. There
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you have it, well, no good deed apparently goes unpunished.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It's a sad thing. Five point fifty five come to him,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: five fifty six plenty to talk about the six o'clock hour?
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Are we going to be bombing tonight beginning at eight pm? Lord,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I hope things get resolved. That whole lot more coming up.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Feel free to give me a I'll be right back.
• 35:01
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• 35:03
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  Speaker 1: You're glad to see Jo's director back from vacation and
• 35:15
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• 35:17
  Speaker 1: from Dan Carroll and Curbbage Mike, who are there at
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Honor Flight this morning for the sendoff. Beautiful opportunity for
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: folks to well experience just an overwhelming emotion of patriotism.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Be there at CVG tonight at roughly eight thirty ish,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: as long as you're there by nine, you follow the people,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: follow the cars. Everybody's going to the same place for
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the welcome home ceremony. Thanks to all those folks at CVEG,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: everyone involved in Honor Flight, the guardians who are escorting
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the mostly Vietnam and a handful of Korean War veterans.
• 35:44
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  Speaker 1: try to be there at CVG this evening. You will
• 35:52
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• 35:55
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• 35:57
  Speaker 1: not only half jokingly, bring some tissue with you. Emotional
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: outbreaks occur quite often on Honor Flight, and that's actually
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a great thing. Coming up. Another great thing seven to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: five with Peter Bronson in the studio. It's the twenty
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of the Cincinnati Riots, Signal ninety nine commenting
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: on Iris Rolli, whose presence became known to the greater
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati area as a consequence of the Cincinnati Riots. She's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: up to her antics again, some of which we talked
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: about yesterday with Christopher Smithman, who was in studio for
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of hours. You can find that podcast a
• 36:27
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• 36:29
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• 36:33
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• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Convention dot Org is going to be talking about early
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: voting and analyzing who is in the primaries. I think
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Jay made a good point. The primaries really is your
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: best opportunity to steer the direction. Don't go on name
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: recognition alone. If you leave it to other people, Quite
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: often people with recognizable names win the primary, even though,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: of course, in Jay's words, they might be rhinos in
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: this sense of Republicans. So pay attention to the primaries
• 37:02
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  Speaker 1: oh five with entertainment editor Jerome Hudson. It's going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: be talking about his empower youth seminar about Hollywood. It's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it has an influence on anybody.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Why what any Hollywood movie star says should be ignored outright?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: But how we can push back against this pop culture
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: entertainment and everything else. I think we've been pushing back
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: pretty well all these Wolke movies. No one's going. That's
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: pretty comical, isn't it. The power of the purse. It's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: like a boycott. Why would I pay money when I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to get exposed to woke ideology. That's all
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: this coming out of Hollywood of late, and they are
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: withering on the vine. That and who else face a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: bigger existential threat from artificial intelligence than movie stars? Yep? Anyhow,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that's the entertainment editor Jerome Hudson's a Bailey Wick there
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: at eight to five, follow by the Daniel Davis deep dit.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Of course we'll talk about the latest on Iran, and yes,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: we are still at a stalemate. There has been no
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: advancement in resolving the conflict. That means eight pm. If
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump makes good on his word, he's going to
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: start bombing all kinds of targets, many of which are
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: suggesting will put Donald Trump in the war crime category.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: He said, yeah. He pushed back on the accusations that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: our striking Iranian infrastructure, notably the power grid, energy production bridges,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: might constitute a war crime, might be something outside of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of international law. Trump dismissed the concern saying, well, the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: targets are tied to Iran's military capabilities and broader war effort.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Quote they say war crimes. It's not close. Quote oh okay,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: end of discussion. Some US lawmakers, Senator Chris Murphy is
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: one of them, Democrat out of Connecticut. So the proposals
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to strike the civilian structure raise legal concerns that can
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: amount to violations of international law. Will this serve as
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: yet another effort to impeach Donald Trump? Should this move forward?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I just kind of keep that parked over on the side.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: There international human rights organizations raising alarms, and they have
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: been saying targeting facilities essential to civilian life, such as
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: electricity and water systems, can can constitute war crimes if
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: they disproportionately harm civilians. Who's going to be making the argument?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Legal experts point to the Geneva Convention, which restricts attacks
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on objects indispensable to the survival of civilian populations. But
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: make that argument. But wait a second, aren't they also
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: indispensable to the survival of the Iranian military. Ruinian military
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: runs on gas and fuel, it needs electricity, It needs
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: bridges to run across and to deliver munitions or when troops.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you parse through all this seems
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to me that every bridge, assuming that a tank or
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: a military vehicle drives over it to fulfill the Irani
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: military's purpose, is arguably a legitimate target. Then, but people
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: drive over them as well. Legal experts point to the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Geneva Convention again, so I guess where's this going to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: be hashed out in the international community of public opinion.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Trump administration argues that degrading Iran's infrastructure will hasten the
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: end of the war, while critics say the approach risk
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: breaching legal limits on warfare and worsening the civilian impacts.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Both of those two latter things. Yeah, may very well
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: be true, But isn't it also true that it would
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: probably hasten the end of the war. Iran doesn't have
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: any lights or infrastructure, or water or power or gas access,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: then I believe that might hasten the end of the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: war because it would devastate completely the Iranian economy, but
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: then also serve as a massive humanitarian crisis. People are expecting,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the Iranian population will just start fleeing to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: foreign lands, creating a humanitarian crisis along those lines. Another
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: warning sign that Iran's not willing to play nicely with us.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Look at what they're doing. The Iranian official yesterday called
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: on youths in the country to form human chains around
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: power plants a head of Donald Trump launching missiles tonight,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: apparently at APM. A guy named Alreza Rahimi. The Iranian
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: state television identified them as the Secretary of the Supreme
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Council of Youth and Adolescents. They've got one of those,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: commenting in a video message it was put out yesterday,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I invite all young people, athletes, artists, students and university
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: students and their professors, urging them to gather at two
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: pm quote around the power plants that are our national
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: assets in capital, regardless of any taste or political viewpoint,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: belong to the future of Iran and to the Iranian youth.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: Huh.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Now, wouldn't it be interesting if Iranian youth heed the call.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think that might count of the narrative that the
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Iranian people want to rise up and overthrow the Supreme
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Leader and anybody affiliated with the well the late Supreme Leader. So,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: and I guess I'm curious to know what you think
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: about the bombing, if in fact we're going to be
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: doing it tonight. Do you think it's an appropriate thing
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to bomb the infrastructure, blowing up bridges, blowing up the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: power systems, and maybe even carg Island, which is like
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: ninety percent of the Iranian source of revenue from their
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: oil industry. I'm staring at the future strading this morning.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Oil currently at one hundred and twelve thirty nine a gallon.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I paid five dollars a gallon for gas yesterday. Now
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it's premium. Of course, I have mentioned that before. I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: could have gotten a little bit less but didn't pump premium.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But it's already five bucks across the street. And this
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: is worrying a lot of Republicans. You can't overlook the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: fact that inflation is still around, and of course we
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: all feel it when the gasoline prices go through the roof.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Just be glad you're not in California. Just be glad
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you're not in the European Union. Five one, three, seven
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  Speaker 1: Care to make a comment on that, I'd love to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: hear from station twenty two. If you have KCD talk
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: station Bron Thomas right, you're going to jump over the phone.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Tony was kind enough to hold over the break, Tony,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: thanks for holding Welcome to the program.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Brian, and this is Tony from New
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Smyrna Beach, Florida.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: AH.
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  Speaker 1: Cool hearing you from Florida, man. Thanks for calling in,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: of course, thanks for tuning in on the iHeartMedia app. Brother.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I listened to you every morning with my coffee.
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: However, I am in Cincinnati because I wanted to come
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: and see the Opening Day beat down. The Queen City
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: has lost her lady, She's she's no longer around.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. The video from that is just so heart wrenching.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: They know that city of Cincinnati is like on the map,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: largely for the Opening Day parade and traditionally the first
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: game of the year. I know that's not the case anymore,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: but you know, the team that is guaranteed a home opener,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and we've got that to show for it. I mean,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's so much good up until three thirty. Apparently that
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: was the when the time bomb went off and the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: whole crowd went crazy with these disruptive youths. Clearly to me,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: well planned in advance.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the pepper pepper ball and taser gun play.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: That was fun.
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: I'm sure, yeah, it's it's anyway.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I have a here's some we might have a surprise tonight.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: We might not have kinetic bombs dropping tonight.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: The US Air Force or the military, i should say,
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: has a bomb called an electromagnetic pulse bomb.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, And what it does is creates a.
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: Magnetic field that fries every circuit board there that has.
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: You know, anything that has a circuit board is disrupted
• 44:58
  Speaker 11: and would not operate.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Right, it's a nuclear pulse. You drop a nuclear bomb
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and you blow it up mid air at some height.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I know the scientists have predetermined that, but you're right.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: It zaps out all things, electronic cars, the entire grid.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: But really, Tony fundamentally just has this. What's the difference
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: between doing that and dropping regular good old fashion munitions
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: on them. Don't you get the same result either way?
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: No, because that would actually put them back to the
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: stone age. They would have no electronics, don't good to communicate,
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: no phone service, no nothing.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Everything has a circuit board.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it would be it would do more damage
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to do the kinetic bomb. Your your infrastructure would remain
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in place at least visually, but everything connected to it
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: has been internally fried out.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: So I say, exactly, then that sound more humane?
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, well, the aftermath is going to be exactly the same,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: massive humanitarian crisis. People starving, rioting in the streets, both
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: population displays, and that's that's what we're all worried about.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Well, well, you know, that's up to them. I mean,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I know what, we open the door for him, they're
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: just gonna have to break it down. That's all I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: can say.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Well, it's head in that direction, and we will, I guess,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: keep our pop corn out and wait and find out.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's enough time between now and eight pm
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: for people to get cooler heads and the ruttings to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: step up to the table and say, you know what,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: maybe we will agree to a ceasefire for a period
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of time. Maybe or Donald Trump could just say, you
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: know what, I changed my mind and we're going to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: give them another forty eight hours or whatever, because we've
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: seen that playbook before. State of Flux right now. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: hear your point. But wouldn't that involve the use of
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon, because my understanding the EMP comes from
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the blowing the detonation of a nuclear device, and would
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that arguably, Oh, there's the United States again, the only
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: power that has ever used nuclear weapons in warfare, doing
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it again, and then you get all the flak as
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a consequence of that from the international community. I don't
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: know it certainly isn't option six twenty five right now,
• 47:01
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• 47:06
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• 47:08
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• 47:10
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• 47:14
  Speaker 1: One hour from now. Tom's Awastowski. We the people Convention
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: on voting, early voting, and who's in the primaries? And
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: right now who's on the phone New Hampshire, Gary, Jeff
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: hang on to get your call in a second. Welcome
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: back to New Hampshire. Garrett's always good hearing from you.
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: Hey, how you doing, Brian doing? Hey, this this whole scenario,
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: and I'm telling you it's to a t. If anybody
• 47:34
  Speaker 12: remembers the movie that came out and was done with puppets,
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: but it was called Team Americas, oh of.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Course, one of my favorite movies of all time.
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: Man, And if you really remember the beginning of the movie,
• 47:48
  Speaker 12: the United States Team America always dropped in on usually
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: exotic locations and fighting terrorists, and by the time they
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: were done, they had completely destroyed all the infrastructure of
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: every single city. You know what I'm talking about.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: The love the Eiffel Tower, Yeah, I did.
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, And they're like, another job well done. There we
• 48:11
  Speaker 12: go again, falling into the same trap that Puppets made
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: fun of, right, and you can't help but to laugh.
• 48:19
  Speaker 12: This is exactly the same thing going on over and
• 48:22
  Speaker 12: over again. Now, on the other hand, there was a
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: I used to run gun shows or help run gun
• 48:29
  Speaker 12: shows back in the nineteen nineties, and oftentimes we would
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: look for the door sharks and stuff like that. We
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: would often get these rare World War two firearms in
• 48:41
  Speaker 12: por trading or what you know what, and one of
• 48:44
  Speaker 12: them that I saw was a it's called a liberator gun.
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you know the history of it,
• 48:49
  Speaker 12: fantastic history. They were sheep metal guns that were stamped
• 48:54
  Speaker 12: together during World War Two, right before the invasion of
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: D Day. I think they cost a quarter apiece to make.
• 49:01
  Speaker 12: They were basically they had five bullets in them. You
• 49:04
  Speaker 12: had unscrew the clip and you screw off the barrel
• 49:08
  Speaker 12: and you would get one shot with it, and then
• 49:11
  Speaker 12: you'd know, screw everything back together and you'd have to
• 49:14
  Speaker 12: get a doll pin ram out a single shot. It
• 49:17
  Speaker 12: was a single shot, okay, and they were cheap. The
• 49:22
  Speaker 12: thing is we made over two hundred and fifty thousand
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: of them. And the idea was that they were going
• 49:27
  Speaker 12: to drop these off over in France on June fifth,
• 49:31
  Speaker 12: and they were just going to chuck them out DC
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: three's out the back of the door, okay, and then
• 49:37
  Speaker 12: that way, instead of all the German troops fighting the
• 49:41
  Speaker 12: Americans coming ashore, that they would be picking up the
• 49:46
  Speaker 12: weapons or being shot with these weapons. And they came
• 49:50
  Speaker 12: with an instruction book. The instruction book was find a
• 49:53
  Speaker 12: German friend, make friends, put your arm around him, then
• 49:56
  Speaker 12: pull your pistol out, shoot him, take his gun, right,
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: and it was all cartoons, nothing spoken. This is true.
• 50:05
  Speaker 12: This is exactly what happened, you know. And I saw
• 50:09
  Speaker 12: one of these, so I got interested in the history
• 50:11
  Speaker 12: and that. You know, it's the same thing. You don't
• 50:14
  Speaker 12: blame the curves for holding on to the weapon. It's
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: just like I don't blame you for holding on to
• 50:18
  Speaker 12: your weapon. Well, you know they can't getting lost inting
• 50:21
  Speaker 12: at right, that's true, or they could not have one.
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: You still have one, right, I guess.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Logistically though, to Hampshire are I mean, assuming you're advocated
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: for something along those lines, how do you make sure that,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: in the case of World War Two, that the shipload
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: or the truckload or the palette of disposable firearms didn't
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: land in the hands of the Germans? How do you
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: make sure that they probably did? Well, yeah, they probably did.
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: They didn't care, But that's more Germans that were taking
• 50:50
  Speaker 12: off the front lines to collect the guns in the
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: back of the line. That means you could advance your troops,
• 50:56
  Speaker 12: right potentially anything else do yeah, well, anything I could
• 51:03
  Speaker 12: do to take troops away from people fighting Americans and
• 51:07
  Speaker 12: reduce their numbers, just like the Japanese. Their their idea
• 51:11
  Speaker 12: was to cause forest fires with those balloon bombs that
• 51:14
  Speaker 12: they were setting out west. That way, we couldn't set
• 51:17
  Speaker 12: as many troops over in the Pacific islets. Right, right, fail, failed,
• 51:23
  Speaker 12: But that was the idea. Do anything you can to
• 51:27
  Speaker 12: hamp your enemy to you know, keep him occupied well.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: And you know, fire firebombing Dresden kept the Germans a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: little busy with that one too. But you know, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: international community would probably look down upon that as a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: war crime. Because now we have modern weapons and rockets
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and we are expected to do little to zero harm
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the civilian population. It becomes an expectation in a well
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a modern weaponry warfare, so that I mean these challenges
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: are actually legitimate. The complete problem is if there is,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: if there's a ledge to be a violation of international law,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: which many suggests might happen if we start bombing bridges
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and infrastructure, who's going to enforce it?
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Apparently, according to my quick research here, international law primarily
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: enforced through a system relying on state consent. The UN
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Security Council and international courts. Key enforcement bodies. The UN
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Security Council the main bottle body responsible for maintaining international peace,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: power to impose sanctions, travel bands, military intervention. I guess
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the blue hats can show up. The only problem is
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: we have a veto power over that. We are a
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: permanent member of the UN Security Council. Said, to the
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: extent they accuse us of war crimes, we need just
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: veto it. Just a thought, Jeff, stick around. I got
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to take your call and come back. It's already six
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  Speaker 1: talk Jeff, thanks for holding on the break. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program.
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: One, Brian.
• 53:04
  Speaker 13: I actually wanted to go back to what the one
• 53:06
  Speaker 13: caller was talking about with an EMP. Yeah, I don't know,
• 53:09
  Speaker 13: but I'm just kind of speculating. So it's you're basically
• 53:14
  Speaker 13: detonating a nuke in the atmosphere.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Correct, that's my understanding how an EMP works. Yes, it's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: not the destructive force of the bomb itself, it's the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: pulse that's sent out that fries all things electrical, unless,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: of course, they're surrounded by a Faraday cage, which apparently
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: dissipates the pulse. But yeah, that's fundamentally how it works.
• 53:31
  Speaker 13: But wouldn't that by default cover a much larger area
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: with nuclear fallout?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so. No expert on nuclear fallout eye.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: But see, there's your problem. If you start dropping nukes
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: in any form. You know, the outrage you can just
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: hear it already, globbal outrage. Yeah, nuclear. And you know,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I suppose that's the other problem with with nuclear power
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: if that is a target, Like you think, if there's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: a small modular reactor out in the world or a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: nuclear power plant out in the world and you drop
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: a bomb on it, I suppose one concern my be
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that nuclear fallout can ensue. So yeah, I think you know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: whether you drop a conventional weapon on a nuclear plant
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: or explode a nuclear bomb above the atmosphere, in the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: atmosphere to create a pulse, you're going to get nuclear fallout.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I assume that there's probably some expert out
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: there saying, well, yeah, maybe, but there's a qualifier or something.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm not familiar enough to know about that, But yeah,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: large concern and legitimately, well.
• 54:24
  Speaker 13: Maybe you got somebody listening that can answer that question.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it sounds logical and reasonable. So yeah, and
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I the amount of destructive force. This is
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: one of the things you have to weigh here, because
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: the caller that brought the whole thing up is correct.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: It fries everything. If you have a cell phone in
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: your pocket. From what I've been told about EMPs, the
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: cell phone gets fried. Maybe one of the reasons you
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: might want to get a Faraday bag for your cell phone.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: It prevents the thing from working and communicating, but when
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: you pull it out of the bag, it does work.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: If you keep it in the bag, it can't be
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: subject to an electric electric pulse. That's why some people
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: are keeping their old cars, cars that pre computer cars.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Remember the ones that a Barack Obama tried to get
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: off the road by promising everyone a few thousand dollars
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: that they just turned their old junker in. Go ahead, Maureen,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: let your conspiracy theory mind work on that one. Maybe
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: they wanted to get EMP free cars off the road.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But if you've got an old one,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: you're not going to have a problem with it apparently. Yeah,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: so speaking of cars, this has got me down. Totally unrelated,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to get it in here. Just found
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: this yesterday. One of my favorite automobile websites. Go to
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Colorado where you're never going to be able to speed again.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Not that I ever exceed this speed limit. Your Ways
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: app some people carry. I don't use apps, so the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Ways app is not something. But if you have ways
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you know that it alerts you were speed trapped. Sorry
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: right now. People participate. They see a car, a cop
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: putting radar out and they put a little note in
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Ways and it goes out to other Ways users. If
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you're in that particular area, you're given a warning in
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: advance as you approach that area. It's a nice feature
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to have, right if you don't want to get caught speeding.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: You want to slow down when you know you're being watched.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Colorado has a new automated vehicle identification system. It uses
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: multiple cameras along any given route, which allows them, using
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: computer intelligence, to calculate your average speed between the cameras,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: and if it's ten miles per hour or more over
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the limit, you get a ticket. It's an automated system
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be manned by human beings. They've
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: been using this for a while, apparently rolled out in
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three after the legislator's chained the law. The
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: systems installed in various roads first began issuing warnings, but
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: they're past the warning phase and now they're issuing automated tickets.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Colorado Department of Transportation installed the cameras along construction zone
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: fine seventy five bucks, zero points, but they're handing those
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: tickets out. So welcome to the growing surveillance state. I'm
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: guessing I don't know if these use traditional radar. Then
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: if you have a radar detector, you're gonna know about
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: this array of cameras. But the thing is going to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: be going off constantly. So I always used to worry
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: about this because if you use toll roads, you get
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a toll stamp ticket, right it has a time on it,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and then you drive and you get down the road
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and you go through another one, you pay your additional toll.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I think Pennsylvania has one like this, and I thought
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: about it. This is going back decades. If they have
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a timestamp on the initial toll, couldn't they look at
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: it at the last toll, and if you have gone
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: beyond maybe fifty five miles an hour sixty five miles
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: per hour, it would be reflected on the speed that
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you arrive at the following toll, they could issue you
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: a ticket. They didn't do it, but apparently they've caught
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: onto the concept. I don't like that at all, George.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Hang on, I'll take your call right out of the gate.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I want to mention Susette LOWSG six forty nine iffy
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: five KCD talk station, very happy Tuesdays. You're gonna go
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: straight to the phones. George is kind of have to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: hold over the break. George, welcome to the program.
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: Yo, Hello, Hellos, right number to call for the Lizard
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: People show.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, seriously, I'll take I'll take laughter on a
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: daylight today when we're geting ready to drop bombs and
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: god knows what's going to happen at a PM tonight, George.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate the levity man, Lizard People, my pleasure, Marie,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Are there Lizard people.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: With respect to fall our You need a ground strike
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: with a nuke or rearly near to it to pull
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: up the dust and atomize it and make it radioactive
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: and spread it in an atmospheric strike will just be
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: a pulse. I don't know whether or not if possible
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: to create a pulse without a nuke. Really, you're gonna
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: need a ground brike, a ground strike for fallout.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Really, Okay, I have listen, no expert of I wouldn't
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: even suggest I know a whole lot about it, as
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I indicated earlier, But I've seen videos and articles talking
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: about e MPs, and they always depict the bomb as
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: being blown up somewhere above the ground. And I don't
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: know how nuclear bombs work, but I would have figured
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: you'd get the the the nuclear fallout of the pulse
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: from that alone. But Georgie, you're.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: Saying you guaranteed the pulse, But I think you've got
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: to be recently near to the ground to pull up
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: some dust and debris and you know, make it, make
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: it tiny, and spread it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. So you're saying the fallout is a consequence of
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the dust becoming radioactive and then blowing around. Yes, okay,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: so without the radioactive dust and it just is nuclear
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: follow us floating around in the air the pulse alone. Yeah, Okay, Well,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: I have to take word for it, George, We're gonna
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: we're in a realm that is not nearly near anywhere
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: my ba wick so, But I honestly, I think the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: broader problem is here, the idea that we'll be using
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: nukes at all. But you know, Trump's been kind of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: wavering around this, Gil There's something bigger out there. I'm
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: going to wipe you off the face of the earth.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: All hell's coming down. We're going to hit all of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: your infrastructure, on and on and on. But then it's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: always qualified with one extra statement like, but that's not
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: all I've got up my sleeve kind of statement, And
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: you kind of wonder which direction he's gone with that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: When you talk about hell fury and you know, devastation
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: and everything, and you've already been using conventional weapons, is
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: there anything left in the arsenal that you can turn
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: to that is bigger or more devastating, And that kind
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: of legitimately worries me. I think I'm justified in my
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: worry about that. Coming up top of the hour news,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: he is Institutio just walked in, just a dear friend
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: of mine and a treasure. We are blessed in the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati have Peter Bronson for all these years,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: a brilliant author, publicist, and he's going to be talking
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: about book he wrote twenty five plug, almost twenty five
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: years ago in the aftermath of the Cincinnati riots, which
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: we are I don't know if we're celebrating them, we
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: are just acknowledging him. It is the anniversary the twenty fifth.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Peter bron said, it's good to see you, my friend.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here this morning. It's always a pleasure
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: having here in the studio. His MIC's not on yet.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Jess Tracker part of the building here for a moment,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: so he'll be back anyhow, and maybe we'll get him
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to commenters. I don't know if Peter Bronson remembers Iris
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Rollie's roll back when we entered into this agreement collective
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: bargaining or collective agreement and transforming Cincinni police, but that's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: apparently where she first emerged. And if your friends will
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: signaled ninety nine on Facebook, I strongly encourage you to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: read the lengthy piece she wrote about Iris Rolie. I'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: just looking at it in my hands and it is scathing,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely scathing. So I know Christopher Smithman brought her up yesterday.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: If you didn't get a chance to hear former Vice
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Mayor of the City of Cincinnati in studio for two hours,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: we did talk about a whole lot of city issues,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: And in this morning's paper, I guess f tab Provol's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: plan to increase taxes is kind of being pushed by
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the wayside, recognizing I suppose, as he does, that voters
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: are ultimately going to approve whatever charter amendment has to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: be modified to increase the income tax in the city.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Last time they tried this, which I thought was rather comical,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: a little writing on the raw on the wall was
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty three, a group of well teachers
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: unions and the ACLU and the Greater Cincinnati Homeless Coalition
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: want to jack up the income tax for it specifically
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: to go toward affordable housing. Voters rejected it. Sixty nine
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: percent said no, and then they tried to readjust it.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: A year later, in twenty twenty four, the CINCINNTI Futures
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Commission wanted to raise the income tax point one five percent.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Why for economic development and police and fire safety. Well,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: if you put a different spin on no, no, no,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: this time we're going to use it for exomic development
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: and point police and fire services. Is will that do it?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Will that be a sell enough for the people of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati to actually vote for a tax increase. I'm gonna
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: go with no. Anyway, this looks like it's the proposal's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: been tabled for the time being. There's a disagreement among
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: council members whether it's a good idea, And all I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: can say is, look, any place you're raising taxes, people
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: are leaving. I mean, do we not see the entire
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: landscape in the post COVID world? We find ourselves in
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: people fleeing high tax states like New York and California,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and they're going to low tax states like Florida and Texas.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Duh.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: That happens in cities as well. I think it was Portland.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I could have it wrong Portland or maybe Seattle. They
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: were going to raise the city tax there. What did
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: people start doing moving to the suburbs out of the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: city limits? Wake up six fifty five, Peter brons and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: in studio for a half hour before we get to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Tom Zawastowski on early voting and who's in the primaries.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: That'll be at seven thirty I hope you can stick
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: around the iHeartRadio one seven oh six here at five
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: krc DE talk station, Very Happy Tuesday, Extra special Happy.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about the war right now,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: unless my guest in studio wants to talk about it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Peter Bronson. You know Peter Bronson. He's been a newsman
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: for a long long time, award winning editor and columnists
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: at multiple papers, including The Inquirer, where I think we
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: had they were named the best editorial page like anywhere
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: when he was an editorialist at the enquire Of course,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: He's an author of multiple books, Peter Bronson's Just Make
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Writes fantastic books, most of which focus on the greater
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati area and historical things surrounding the greater Cincinnati area,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: including a book he wrote back in two thousand and six,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Behind the Lines, The Untold Story of the Cincinni Riots.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Bronson, Welcome back, my friend.
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  Speaker 5: Glad to be here with you. Brian. We're always a pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Not celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of the riots always
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: something you really want to celebrate. No, but yeah, I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: mean you were there, we were with the Inquiry at
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the time. Because you were with the Inquired until two
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, yes, So I was editorial page editor at the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 14: time of the riots, and I circled back five years
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 14: later after the riots to write this book because I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 14: thought it was about time that we told the rest
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 14: of the story, which was how about the police point
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 14: of view and all this? Because they were blamed for everything,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: their morale was destroyed. We had probably one of the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 14: first examples in US cities of complete depolicing. When you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 14: talk about defunding the police, we had it. We had
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 14: depolicing because the cops were demoralized. They layered on so
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 14: many levels of review on everything they did. They had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 14: seven levels. So the cops basically told me that during
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 14: this period immediately after the riots, if I'm going to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: get out of the car and do my job, everything
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 14: that can happen almost can go wrong and destroy my career,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 14: and I can be dragged through these review panels for
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 14: weeks and months, I can't do my job. All it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 14: takes is one citizen to make a complaint. And so
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 14: what we had then was that period. I don't know
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 14: if you remember this, but.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I was out of town during that period. So you're
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have to refresh my recollection because some of the
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: details on this are very sketchy. For me, I was
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: living in Chicago.
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  Speaker 14: It was pretty amazing, Brian, Yeah, because we had the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 14: courthouse was almost like a empty It was like there
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 14: was nobody up there because there were no arrests there.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 14: The police were backed off to such an extent that
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 14: the judges basically had very little to do and it
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 14: was a very big art being written.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: No people were being arrested. Of course, that would shut
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: down the criminal justice system. Sorry, we have nothing to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: do today. I get that. Yeah, remind my listeners and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: of course, refresh my recollection. What was the What sparked
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: the riots? What kicked it off?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 14: Yes, well, there's kind of two theories, but let's start
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 14: with the one that's most common, which is that's the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 14: shooting of Timothy Thomas on the seventh of April on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 14: a Saturday night. He came around a corner and Officer
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 14: Stephen Roach was also coming around the corner, and apparently
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 14: he had his finger on his trigger and he was
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 14: startled in the went off and he killed this young
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 14: man who was nineteen years old and had multiple warrants
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 14: for his arrest. That's why they were on a foot
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 14: chase because they spotted him.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: They were aware of him.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 14: He was well known to the police, and they called
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 14: it in and the warrants for sure enough, they had
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 14: seven or eight warrants, I guess, and maybe more than that.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 14: And so the guy was an unfortunate accident.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: So it truly was an accident. You're talking about the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: inadvertent shooting of this. It wasn't as if the police
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: like maybe back based on this guy's record, Timothy Thomas,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: did he have priors for firearm possession? Was he a vil?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: Minor things?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: So this isn't eminent apprehension of reasonable of grievous bodily harm.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: This was just an.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: Accident, right, This is just in fact.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 14: One of the first cops on the scene was another
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 14: friend of mine, Paul Humphreys, and he was later became
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 14: an assistant chief and at the time I think he
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 14: was a captain. And he showed up and he said
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 14: the first thing that roach told him, and it's in
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 14: the book, was it just went off.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: It just went off. I mean that's how startled he was.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 14: Of course, it's you know, not in compliance with the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 14: protocol or training to have your finger on the trigger exactly,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 14: you know. But but you know, this goes into that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 14: category of things that happened to police that where they
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 14: have to make split second decisions. There was also roach
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 14: described that he thought the kid was reaching for a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 14: gun because he was pulling up his pants and so,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 14: you know, but it this is an accident. But the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 14: next day, throughout that weekend, because there was a vacuum
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 14: of information over the weekend, and it was filled with
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 14: rumor and gross fantasies and exaggerations that he was murdered,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 14: that the police were covering up, that this was part
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 14: of a racist pattern by Cincinnati police who were out there.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 14: I mean, I'm not exaggerate reading these things were on
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 14: out there in the media, that he was that the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 14: Cincinnati police were.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Hunting down young black men and killing him. Jeez, And
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: that just just fanned the flames.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 14: By Monday, in the Law and Public Safety Committee meeting,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 14: of all places, you can't get more ironic than that
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 14: they had a meeting. Of course, they should have had
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 14: police presence in there. They did not because the council
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 14: members decided that having police there might insight.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: Civil unrest.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 14: Well, what happened is this mob came in and took
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 14: over the meeting, told the council members, you're not leaving
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 14: until we get answers. The person that was leading that mob,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 14: two of them were Ken Lawson, who was known as
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 14: the law Dog.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Remember, yeah, I went to law school with that guy.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah, he had some troubles later on in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: his career.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 14: At this point, when I did a research project with
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 14: him for a book, he told me that on that
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 14: day when he was sitting there in the lawn public
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 14: Safety committee meeting, he was high as a kite. He
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 14: was had a really severe opioid problem. So anyway, later
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 14: he apologized for what he did there because he accused
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 14: the police of murder in that hearing, and he said
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 14: they were covering up a murder. He said later many
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 14: years about ten years later, that that was a big
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 14: mistake and he regretted it.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 14: The other person that incited that mob was the Reverend
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 14: Damon Lynch. Sure he was the leader of the Black
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 14: United Front. And they really did. They kept the council
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 14: members from leaving. They got on there, took their chairs.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 14: They I mean, they basically took over and held the
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 14: council hostage. And as that mob left, they broke more
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 14: than two hundred windows at city Hall, and that was
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 14: the real beginning of the violence.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. And in these this this time, during all this
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: violence that's going on, obviously, that is I think unquestionably
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: criminal activity. If you're holding the councilmembers hostage, that is
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: a wrongful and and if you're breaking property public property,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: that clearly is a violation of law. Was anybody prosecutor
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: for any of that. No, I didn't think so any.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 14: And you know, there were just a few people in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 14: town who spoke up about this and said that these
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 14: people should be held responsible for inciting to riot, Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 14: which is exactly what happened. That would include Keith Fangman,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 14: who was the union president, Mike Allen, who was the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 14: prosecutor at the time, police Chief Tom Striker I wrote
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 14: columns to that effect. I think there were some voices
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 14: on WLW, like Bill Cunningham and others who raised these questions.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 14: But the irony here is that those of us who
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 14: raised those questions, we were accused by city leaders of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 14: inciting violence.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: And yes, it's unbelievable.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. My brain typically thinks in a logical
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: and reasonable linear way. I don't understand how you can
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: even make that argument without laughing.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 14: It was absurd, But we were accused of inflaming. This
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 14: justified what they called unrest, which was pure mob violence.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 14: In fact, if you want to get to the accurate definition,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 14: it was a race riot. All of the people who
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: were dragged from their cars and beaten were white, and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 14: there were many. And this was as the police told
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 14: me when I circled back, they said, well, some of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 14: those people were almost unrested to death. They chose this
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 14: nice neutral word unrest or rebellion or justified violence. It
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: was all part of the media narrative that the Cincinnati
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 14: police this was all just like Los Angeles with Rodney kissing.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Sure so, in other words, the police department, bad police department,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: inherently racist police department wants to and engages in regularly
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: going out and murdering black people. Ergo protesters, pull unrelated
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: white people from their car and beat the living crap
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: out of them. Yes, not people that are affiliate with
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: the police department, mind you, just innocent people driving through absolutely. Okay,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: that makes no sense either, No.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 14: It made no sense. In fact, a lot of this
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 14: when when we looked back five years later and went
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 14: back to see who was arrested and so forth. Many
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 14: of the people who arrested for inciting violence and being
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 14: part of these mobs were not even from Cincinnati. This
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 14: whole thing coincided with spring break, so you had a
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 14: lot of kids who were out there just looking for
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 14: something to do, and this was like there were it's
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 14: hard to believe this when you look back back, but
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 14: one hundred and twenty businesses were torched, burned, or looted
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 14: or just trashed. We had more than one hundred We
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 14: had thirty five million dollars in property damage during that week.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 14: And that's not even including the cost of the lawsuit
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 14: settlements that the council just they couldn't wait to do
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 14: something anything, so they settled this lawsuit that didn't even
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 14: qualify as a class action and basically handed over ten
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 14: million to the Black United Front and the ACLU without
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 14: even going to court to contest it.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that's hard to believe. How was the Black United
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Front and the ACO you harmed by this? Their reputations
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: were They were not specifically targeted by the police. They
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: are outside organizations that came in after the fact who
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: make accusations about the cincint Police Department. I just I'm curious,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: wildly curious to know how they ended up with their
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: hand in the cookie jar.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: It was basically a shakedown on a massive scale.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a shakedown nonetheless. I mean my retort
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: would have been, you're not damaged. Why are you even here?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Who said you are the representative of all people black
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 14: Well, and you'll love this as a lawyer too, because
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 14: the federal judge in the case, in this class action,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 14: did not even require the Black United Front to name
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 14: any of its members. So they're in a class action
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 14: suit and they don't even have to specify any name
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 14: one person who has been damaged. So the city settles
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 14: as for ten million other damages or settlements that went
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 14: out the door for numerous other cases that they settled
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 14: without really reviewing or contesting them. So I would guess
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 14: that if you include the boycott that followed, the total
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 14: costs that city was north of fifty million, probably sixty
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 14: seventy million.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: And I guess some could argue that really haven't ever
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: recovered from that. I know a lot of money has
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: been invested in downtown Cincinnati since then, but you know,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: you destroy your own neighborhood.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 14: We lost businesses like the Masonette during the boycott. We
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 14: lost the whole North entertainment district.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: On Main Street that was really starting to take off.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: It was taken off.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 14: And then, you know, let's get to the real loss here,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 14: which was that during this depolicing period, homicides doubled to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 14: eighty a year, and these were all black on black shootings.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 14: We had during that period between two thousand and one
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 14: and two thousand and five when I wrote the book,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 14: we had three young black men who were killed.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Let's pause on that tragic note. Behind the Lines The
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Untold Story of the Cincinnti Riots, written in two thousand
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: and six by my guest here, Peter Bronson. We'll talk
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: more about Karos, the talk station seventy if you five
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: kocit the talk station Bright Times within the studio. Peter
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Bronson author out Behind the Lines The Untold Stories of
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  Speaker 1: the Cincinni Riots, which happened in two thousand and one
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: April seventh, rough fourteenth. He gave me a refresher course
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: on what was going on, including the was it insurrection
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: in the city council. They took over and held hostage
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: council members. They broke and smashed things. It sounds remarkably
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: like January sixth there, Pete, don't make comment on that,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: a little more violent. But I got to correct the record.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: I actually was here, and I'm wondering where in the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: hell I was mentally at the time, because we moved
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: back here in ninety eight. Here I am, you're talking
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: about two thousand and one just flew underneath my radar.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: I guess I was so used to violence in Chicago,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and some of the most violent times is when we
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: lived in Chicago. There were more murders back in the
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: nineties than there are now. But sure, I don't know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: but you refreshed my lack of recollections significantly, and it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: sounds sadly like not a whole lot's changed.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 14: Well, you know, some of these things are that are
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 14: just the same, Which is that all of this spending,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 14: let's call it fifty million to be conservative, But none
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 14: of that really reached the neighborhoods. The collaborative agreement. For
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 14: all the hoopla about historic collaborative agreement and everything, it
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 14: really didn't reach the people who the kids who live
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 14: in the hood who are alienated, who maybe fatherless families,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 14: who are on the streets because they don't have proper supervision.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 14: I mean, these problems persist and nothing really was done
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 14: to address them, and are.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Also of course raised under the belief that it's the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: man's fault, it's the police department's fault, it's none of
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: the situations they find themselves in is anybody's fault but
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: somebody else.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 14: And in fact, that's you could argue that it's even
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 14: worse because here we had this incident back during the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 14: music festival where people who are elected officers of the
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 14: city in Cincinnati said, this person has to be arrested
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 14: because of the color of his skin. He didn't do
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 14: anything wrong, but that white guy has to be arrested.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 14: Yes, I mean, it really hasn't changed that much, and
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 14: it's a shame. Most of the money actually went to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 14: the people who are leading the protests.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: Which you mentioned earlier, Black Lives was it the Black
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: United Front?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: Black United Front? Aclius?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: So did they take the settlement money? And then I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: know the answer is note invested in any given community
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: or they just put in their own coffers.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 14: No, yeah, And in fact, some of the settlements were
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 14: even concealed from the public, so you were not able
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 14: to see where the money went, which I thought was outrageous.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 14: But again, this was a dangerous time to raise objections
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 14: or questioning these things, because immediately you'd be accused of
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 14: being inciting violence and being racist. And when the media
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 14: and the politicians get together and decide to go in
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 14: one direction, woe to him who stands in their path,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 14: because they will run you over.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they will. And we've seen this. The allegations or
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: accusations of racism are taken so seriously by people who
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: are objectively not racist, and that's part of the problem
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: that I just don't understand. Yeah, I mean the Somali
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: community of Minnesota, if you pointed out that there was fraud,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: and there was, it was known to so many. But
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: if you pointed out, they accused you over blanket racism accusations.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: But that that worked. I mean, I point out all
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: the time here in the Morning show. No, it's the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: subset of the smaller community that are criminals. We are
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: accusing criminals of being criminals. We don't care what color
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: their skin is. We just don't want to rip.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 14: Us off exactly. And then you go back and you
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 14: look at what happened. Who suffered most as a result.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: Of these riots exactly?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 14: It was the people that the Black United Front and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 14: the ACL you claim to represent. Yeah, they're the ones
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 14: who lost their sons. They're the ones who saw shootings
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 14: go from from eighty to three hundred and fifty.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, in four years.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: And they're also the ones, assuming that they do get
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: something beneficial from the city cough. They're the ones having
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: destroyed the city and burned down so many businesses and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: driven so many businesses out. Obviously, they're the ones that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: struggle with less tax dollars going into the city of
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: cincinnative fund whatever given program and whatever given neighborhood. They're
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: looking half funded.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, and absolutely, And then we had the boycott
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 14: which followed, which was instigated again by the Black United
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 14: Front with the most incendiary accusations of murdering, raping, killing
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 14: young black people. These are direct quotes from Damon Lynch
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 14: at the time when he encouraged all these entertainers like
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 14: Bill Cosby and Whoopi Goldberg to boycott Cincinnati, and they did,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 14: and who suffered from that, Well, it's the people who
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 14: work in the hotels. It's the people who are bartenders,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 14: the restaurants. I mean who suffered.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Race Huckster's basically would you say, I think of Sharpton
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: and Toronto Broadley. He lied, outright made up the crime
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: against her, got people agitated, people rioting in the streets
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: all over a lie. He built a career on it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you wonder who's best interest they have
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: in mind when they're out there advocating for the community.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 14: And let's also hold accountable the press, who at one
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 14: point the mayor said that all of these stories about
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 14: the boycott, every story should be finished with brought to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 14: you by the Cincinnati Inquirer. I mean, that's how bad
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 14: it was. Anything that Damon Lynch said, it was a headline,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 14: without question, without examining it, without checking the facts. It
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 14: was just pumped out there as if.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: We were God, the enviroment truth, gospel truth. Yeah, because
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: he said it.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think we've learned anything before we part company here,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Peter Bronson?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 14: No, I think in a lot of ways, if anything,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 14: the media is worse, and I don't think we've gained
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 14: a lot.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: With all that.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Well, fortunately, Peter Bronson in the absence of local media
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: either not covering things or not being honest. We have
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: a wealth of social media people out there keeping an
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: eye on things. I think a signal ninety nine right
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: out of the gate, reliable information running counter to the
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: narrative that we are being spoon fed. So it is
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: a different times a question whether we can parlay that
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: into better information.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 14: And you don't forget platforms like yours. Well, you do
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 14: a great job getting out the other side of the story.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Trying man, I'm just looking for the truth like everybody. Yeah,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Peter Bronson, God bless you man, Thank you so much
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: for all the beautiful books you've written, willingness to come
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: in here and talk about the twenty fifth anniverse. You
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: get a copy of the book, folks. Joell put it
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: up on the blog page behind the lines Untold Stories
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: of Cincinni Riots two thousand and six. Can't believe that
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: much time is flown, Peter. When you write another book,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: get on the program and if you want to publish
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: a book, chilidog Press dot com. That is Peter's publishing company,
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  Speaker 7: Oh really great to be on. And what a fascinating,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: you know, conversation about you know, the riots in Cincinnati
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: and it just riveting radio to get the details and remember,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: you know, we just we just forget so much of
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: what happened. Yes, what a scam that was, What a
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: total scam that was.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: It does certainly as Peter boils down the faction information,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: it certainly sounds that way, and feel like we've relived
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: that thing over and over again since ninety war, since
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: the riots here in two thousand and one. You know,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: we all we can look at any number of the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: riots that have gone on, and it seems to me
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: there's always someone who jumps out purporting to be the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: leader of the community and whose word is taking a gospel.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: And I've commented about this many times. There is no
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: single human being, don't care what color his or her
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: skin is, who can represent Brian Thomas. I speak for myself.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Everybody speaks for themselves. There isn't one size fits all
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, people's reactions to any
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: given situation. And it irks me to no end that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: local media treats it like gospel. Whoa yo. Sharpton said it,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: therefore the black community must agree with it. No, Damian
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Lynch said it, Therefore the black community must agree with it. No,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: there are people out there that don't.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: So, you know, yeah, that's the group identity politics nonsense
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: that has really destroyed our culture for you know, you know,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 7: ten twenty thirty years, and we've got to overcome that.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: You know, That's why I was great to see the
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: astronaut you know, who made a statement about the fact that,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't really want to talk about the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 7: fact that I'm a black astronaut or a female astronaut.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: We're humans. We want to talk about, you know, like
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 7: doctor Martin was the King said the content of your character,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 7: not the color.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Aim on Tom Zawistowski. I wish we could return to that,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: because it seems to me that you know, it's one
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: of those well, turn about is fair play because there
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: was systemic racism, because there was ill treatment, because blacks
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: were deprived of life and liberty and equal treatment under
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: the law, then it makes it okay to well respond
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: in kind. And two wrongs never make a right. We
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: have made so much by way of racial development and
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: harmony and healing over the years, and to throw that
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: all away, which seems like the direction we're going it
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: just herd. It's heartbreaking, Tom, is really the only way
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  Speaker 1: I can characterize it. Absolutely heartbreaking.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I agree, we must reject that and move past it,
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  Speaker 7: because you know, we were on that path and we
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: got sidetracked. But we can get back there again. And
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 7: the way you do that is you do things like
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: vote right you know, you know, what do we do collectively?
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's not the color of your skin or
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: your ethnic background or whatever. The election is starting and
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: you've got to participate if you want to be equal
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: citizens and have an equal role in what's going on.
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  Speaker 7: And you know most people don't even know Brian at
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: the election started today.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and that's where we're gonna pause. That's a nice
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  Speaker 1: tease for what we're going to talk about. Coming back.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Zawastowski, We the People Convention dot org. Check out
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: the website, bookmarket and hear what Tom has to say.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Every week. We'll be right back with Tom after I
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• 1:26:27
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• 1:26:29
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• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: the bombs start dropping at eight pm this night tonight,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: unless Donald Trump change the deadline or they wake up
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: in the meantime. Tom Zawastowski, we the People Convention dot
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  Speaker 1: Org is on the phone to talk about Hey, talk
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  Speaker 1: about voting we've got a primary coming up. Did you
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  Speaker 1: know that?
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  Speaker 7: Tom? I think that most people didn't know it. They
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: sure didn't know it. You can actually vote today. You
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 7: can go to the Hamilton County Board of Elections today
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: and if you're registered, you can vote from May till five,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: and that's kind of, you know, every weekday until you
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: get to you know, the elections. Supposedly already the election
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: is May fifth, but you can vote early. It's you know,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: starting today, and then as you get close to the election,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: you can vote in person early on Saturday and Sunday,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: May second and third, so you know it's already started.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 7: And then you know, we still have mail in voting,
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  Speaker 7: which I'm not a big fan of, but it's a
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 7: simple process. If you go to the Hamilton County or
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  Speaker 7: the you know, whether it's you know, Butler or Claremont
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: or whichever, Warren County Board of Elections, and you first
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: have to request an application, so you know, so you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 7: can get a ballot. So you go to their website,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: you can download the application to get a ballot, You
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 7: fill it out, you send it in, they verify you're
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 7: a registered voter, and then they send you a ballot
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 7: and the mail, you fill that out, you send it in.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 7: But then the thing that's really changed is it's got
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: to be there by election day in Ohio. So you know,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: you got to either drop it off in a drop
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: box or you got to mail it in. But that's
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: an important thing is there'll be no counting after election
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: day here in Ohio. And that's a good thing. So
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: so that's the process. Vote in person now, vote you
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  Speaker 7: know by mail now, or you know, vote on election
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  Speaker 7: day May fifth. And there's some important races that we
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 7: can talk about, but the bottom line is it's your
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: responsibility to vote if you want to. You want to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 7: be able to choose who's done the general election. Now
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: in November, you got to vote in the primary.
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  Speaker 1: And you know someone brought it up earlier today. The
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: primary is sometimes even more important than the general election.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: If you're dissatisfied with your your party's candidate, someone who's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: got great name recognition, maybe you know one of the
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Blue twenty two for example. I think you Jay brought
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: that up earlier this morning. You can vote for somebody else,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: but if you're going to steer the direction of your
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: party in a different way, it's the primary is where
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  Speaker 1: you do it.
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  Speaker 7: It's real important. I mean, it's it's just been amazing
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  Speaker 7: me says I've been in the Tea Party. What a
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: difficult concept that is for people everybody, you know, I mean,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 7: what's the turnout going to be ran? And like ten
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: percent of voters are going to vote in the primary
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 7: and it should be like one hundred percent because this
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: is when we the people actually have a choice. And
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 7: then in the general, you know, you're kind of stuck
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: between the two parties and it's just not the same thing.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: But you know, people just don't understand that. And that's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 7: why we're talking about it on your show this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Tom's aust asking we the people can mention dot org.
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  Speaker 1: What are some of the highlights in the primary that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: you would like to bring up? Some of the races. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks are very familiar that
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  Speaker 1: you've got vv Ramaswamy and Casey putch Is options on
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  Speaker 1: the Republican side. I see also, though on my list here,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: that Heather Hill and Stuart Motes running. I've never even
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: heard of Heather Hill or Stuart MoES. So there are
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: people running for governor and lieutenant governor that I'm not
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: even familiar with there's libertarian candidates on the list. So,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: but which which of the races are really truly important
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: to you and your comments on them?
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  Speaker 7: Tom, Yeah, I'll tell you. You know a couple of
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: things that are interesting. First of all, disappointed that there's
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: not more competition in some races, like, for instance, for
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 7: Governor Amy Actin's running unopposed as a Democrat. In you know,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 7: Attorney General Keith Sabers running on apposed for Attorney General
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: as a Republican. You've got the same thing, you know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: with Auditor of state. Neither candidate Frank Larrose a Republican,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 7: or Annette Blackwell has an opponent. So I wish there
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: was more competition. The one race that I find really
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: interesting is a secretary of State. Yeah, you know, you
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: and I have talked about Robert Sprague and Marcel Sturbage.
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  Speaker 7: But on the Democrat side, this Alison Russo against Brian Hambley,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 7: I think is a race that more people should be
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: paying attention to because I'm really worried about this Brian
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  Speaker 7: Hamley guy. He's from Cincinnati, right, he's a guy, He's
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: a doctor from Cincinnati, and I'm afraid that this guy
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: is a George Soros guy, and they're going to make
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: a big move to take over the Ohio Secretary of
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  Speaker 7: State's office. I'm watching his fundraising. He's he's raised like
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  Speaker 7: eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars compared to Russo six
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 7: hundred thousand. And he's got an organizational footprint in Ohio
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 7: because he was involved with the effort to change the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: redistricting in Ohio. And I'm just worried that they're going
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: to put a bunch of money into that race and
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: they're going to try to steal the Secretary of States race,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: and we should be keeping an.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: Eye on that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean considering Sprague. In this case, Sprague is
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: the one with the name recognition on the Republican side
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: of the ledger. I think, you know, the Republican side
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: is going to be well served if either Sprague or
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Marcel Sturbridge gets elected Secretary of State. In terms of
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: your political tea leaf reading though, Tom Zawastowski, who would
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: stand a better chance of beating Brian Hambley if he
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: in fact gets a Democratic nod.
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  Speaker 7: Well, see, I had a sit down with Robert Sprague.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: You know he knows that I endorsed Marshall Serbis, but
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 7: he still came and met with me. This good for
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: him and and that's exactly right. And we've endorsed Robert
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  Speaker 7: and two prior elections. But I still felt, and I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 7: think you agree, that Marcel Service is better qualified. The
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  Speaker 7: question for us is what happens after the primary. And
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 7: what I was probing Robert on was, hey, are there
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: these is there going to be money behind you if
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 7: you if you win the Promy primary, what's going to happen?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 7: And what he told me was frightening, and that is
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 7: that really that the vekrom Aswami is just sucking up
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 7: all the fundraising in the state, and that that there's
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 7: he does not think he's going to have more than
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: like a million dollars to run after the primary. That's
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: nowhere near enough, nowhere near enough. Sorows could drop ten
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  Speaker 7: million dollars on the Secretary of State rate in a heartbeat.
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  Speaker 7: And so I'm concerned that we're not looking at it
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: like a Republican party. And I know Alex Tailafalo is
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: doing a good job as chairman. You know, he's got
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 7: this fund that they're going to be trying to turn
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 7: out the vote. But I'm worried about the money situation.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 7: As I saw if Avek has raised like twenty million
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 7: dollars compared to Amy Actons like five. But on the
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  Speaker 7: Senate race between you know, Sharon Brown and in John Houston,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: Sharon Brown has raised double the money is John Houston.
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  Speaker 7: That's a warning to me.
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  Speaker 1: That's a national race right there, That's what that's what
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: that means. Money is coming in from the four corners
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: of the United States of America. And of course big
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: liberal donors like Sorows and other well connected, big fat
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: money donors, they are certainly going to back that Sharon
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Brown on that one. That's that's a frightening one right there.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we've got to get the message out. It's just
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: real simple. It's not really on the Republican side about
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 7: the candidates. It really isn't we have to vote for
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 7: every Republican who's got a pulse because the threat from
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: the left, it's just clear. I mean, it's unbelievable to
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 7: me that they're either so stupid or so brazen that
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 7: you know, we have congressmen saying, oh yeah, if we
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 7: win in November, we're gonna impeach Trump. Like the next day,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 7: who wants that and what kind of messages that to
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: their voters? Like how does that lower your prices? How
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: does it lower your energy? How does it help our
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: country if you're going to impeach Trump?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: Like, what does that mean to me?
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: Even as a Democratic voter? Not much. That's frightening. Our
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 7: message is we got to elect every Republican we can
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: because they're out to destroy our country. We're out to
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: say that.
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  Speaker 1: Tom, hold on a second. I want to ask you
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: about that, because last time I look, Ohio's a pretty
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: solid red state. Do the Democrats really stand a chance
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: and taking over some of the these races? Let's pause
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  Speaker 1: ring Tom back see the talk station seven fifty one.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: If you have KERCD talk station. Elections matter and primaries
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: really matter a lot if you want to, you know,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: maybe rethink the direction of your party. Multiple different Republican candidates,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: multiple different Democratic candidates running for various offices, and of
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: course you don't like who you got, don't vote for
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: the same person, but you got to be there and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: vote in the primary to make that happen, says Tom's
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: out Stowski. We the People Convention dot Org. Any of
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  Speaker 1: the other races jump out. Well, First, Tom, concerned about
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: some of these races. Obviously you're a little concerned. You
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of them, But this is Ohio. I
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: mean for a state wide election like Stech, secretary of
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: state or treasurer, do the Democrats really stand a chance
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: of winning? I mean, have we moved that far maybe
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: purple in the state of Ohio or is this maybe
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: an overblown concern?
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  Speaker 2: Tom, Well, I.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 7: Think you're accurate and that we are a red state.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: So what's the problem. The problem is turnout. The problem
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 7: is will our voters that came out because Trump was
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 7: on the ballot in twenty twenty four will they turn
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: out in twenty twenty six when Trump's not on the ballot.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 7: And there's some real concern about that, and that's why
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: we've been talking like I've been talking. I think you've
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 7: probably picked up on that. The baker Maswami is running
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: ads about property taxes and how he's going to roll
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 7: them back, but he doesn't really announce a plan. Because
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: we've got to have an issue that will turn our
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 7: people out, and we think I think that they thinks
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: it's property taxes, but I think we've got to have
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: something on the ballot in November. That will get our
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: people to turn out, because if we don't, that's where
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 7: the left can steal an election by spending a lot
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: of money on something like the Secretary of States race,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: which is their way of getting underneath it all to
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: start to change the state back to their direction like
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 7: they did when Jennifer Bruner with Secretary of State and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: things like that. So we got to get turnout. That's
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 7: the bottom line. You can be a red state, but
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: if you don't show up, that's true. What happens they win.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: And what really drives me crazy is that so much inertia,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: just driven by Trump de rangement syndrome, that is enough
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: to get the Democrats off the couch and out and voting.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And they don't have a politizing.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: Because it's a TV show, right, watch that TV show.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: So it's worked both ways against us.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: It does, But I mean they don't have a program,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: a plan, and nothing other than you know, increasing taxes
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: and creating more sanctuary cities or whatever the hell they
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: want to do with their liberal policies, nothing really flies.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Most of them are sort of eighty twenty issues, most
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: notaly with regard to illegal immigration. So they're on the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: losing side of that, but is simply stated, evil orange
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: man is enough to drive Democratic voters to show up
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: even if he's got nothing to do with the underlying
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: issues or or office that's being sought in the primary.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: Well see, and then you combine that with you know,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: one hundred million share Brown. How much money is Sharon
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: Brown going to spend telling lies?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 12: Right?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: Campaigning him is something he totally is not, right, I'm
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 7: moderate and all that. You know his you know, like
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 7: his wife isn't really a card carrying communist, right, I mean,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 7: it's insane they're going to be running these ads or
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: he's just a most wonderful person. How do you overcome that?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: And that's where Trump is so strong because he just
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 7: goes right at it. But boy, you know, you can
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: fool a lot of people with a lot of propaganda,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 7: as we've seen unfortunately all over this country.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: And tom prop aganda only works if you are an
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: uninformed voter. That's the problem. These statements that they make
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: in these campaign ads usually buy packs as opposed to you,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: unless the candidate actually says I'm so and so and
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: I endorse this message. It's a political action committee. They
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: run really rough shot over facts when they run pack ads,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: and that people could be swayed by that. That's the
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: whole thing that bothers me so much. That money can
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: actually really effectively influence politics. If you're paying attention throughout
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: the year, if you're one of those weed dwellers like
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: I consider myself, you can see through the veneer of
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: the lies that they are chucking at you, and you
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: just kind of costs it aside and say, who could
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: ever believe that? Well, you got to have the underlying
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: information in order to know what's truth from fiction.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 8: You bet.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 7: I'll tell you a fun story. I actually looked into
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 7: starting a thing called Political AI and one of my
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: dreams was to have a phone app where you could
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 7: kind of just hold your phone up to the TV
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: when a commercial was playing and it would be a
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 7: BS detector and tell them exactly what's they're saying is
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 7: wrong or right right there while you're watching the TV ads,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 7: because it's all lies and people forget. Ohio used to
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: have a law that you could not lie in political advertising,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 7: and the Supreme Court overturned that and said lying in
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 7: political ads is free speech.
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  Speaker 1: It is uh, get out and vote. We the people
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: at convention dot org. Tom's on top of everything. Stay
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: in touch with Tom and we'll have him back on
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: the program real soon. I appreciate the powerful message, get
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: out and vote Tom. Thanks very much for your time today.
• 1:39:34
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  Speaker 1: written a great book to Fifty Things they Don't want
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  Speaker 1: you to Know about Trump. It was a USA Today
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  Speaker 1: and Publisher's Weekly best seller here, doubling down to the point.
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  Speaker 1: New York Times didn't even include his book in their ratings,
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  Speaker 1: making the point he makes all the time. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program, Good you, Hea you back on, Jerome Hudson.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday to you, sir, Thank you well, you're doing
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  Speaker 1: to ask you directly because I do not listen to
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  Speaker 1: anything Hollywood movie stars, say Jerom Hudson. They're actors. They
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  Speaker 1: provide a product that I might enjoy. I love movies.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I like them, sometimes they don't. But I have
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  Speaker 1: to disconnect myself from the political realities of any given
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  Speaker 1: actor in order to enjoy a movie, because quite often
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  Speaker 1: it flies in the face of my own political philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: But why do I even know what their politics? Are,
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  Speaker 1: why does anybody care? Generally, it's like a weird human
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  Speaker 1: phenomena jerome that people want to know what these idiots
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  Speaker 1: do when they're not playing roles in a movie.
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  Speaker 8: And Brian, you probably would never know Robert de Niro's
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  Speaker 8: politics or name your favorite singer or actor unless Democrats
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  Speaker 8: wanted to stay in office. And we know generally most
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  Speaker 8: politicians too. But Democrats form, Brian an unholy alliance with
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  Speaker 8: Hollywood celebrities about a quarter century ago, and the Democratic
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: Party realized that they needed to be able to tap
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  Speaker 8: into and engage young voters. And what's the easiest way
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  Speaker 8: to do it? But it don't go around go straight
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  Speaker 8: to their favorite entertainers, their singers, the actors, and so slowly,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: but surely, it sort of started with issue politics in
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  Speaker 8: the early to mid nineties, feminism, environmentalism, and its slowly
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  Speaker 8: crept into a list actors and celebrities endorsing politicians, and
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  Speaker 8: now it's morphed. It's more into something just gargantuan.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, we all have thoughts and opinions about institutions
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  Speaker 8: like say, planned parenthood, but you do a little bit
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  Speaker 8: of digging around and you realize that planned Parenthood and
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  Speaker 8: a miss for snuffing out, you know, potential life in
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  Speaker 8: the womb. Sure, but they stood up over a decade ago,
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  Speaker 8: over two decades ago, a little program by which they
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  Speaker 8: called it their Arts and Entertainment Divisions, and most people
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  Speaker 8: didn't know it. You saw abortion stories creep up and
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  Speaker 8: then populate more and more in your favorite TV shows
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  Speaker 8: and movies, but you didn't know that Planned Parenthood was
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  Speaker 8: actually working with the producers, working with the writers and
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  Speaker 8: the directors of those TV shows and those movies. And
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  Speaker 8: they did it over one hundred times. It's just one
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  Speaker 8: example of again this unholy alliance between the left in
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  Speaker 8: America the Democrat Party in Hollywood, and I think I
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  Speaker 8: think we're all kind of having this debate. Whether you're
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  Speaker 8: a moderate or an independent conservative or liberal, you just
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  Speaker 8: want ideas to be debated. A left in the Democrat
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  Speaker 8: Party don't really play by those rules, right. They oftentimes
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  Speaker 8: find ways to cheat. And so if you can leverage
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  Speaker 8: celebrity in the influence of an a list finger like
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  Speaker 8: a Taylor Swift, for example, to endorse the quote unquote
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  Speaker 8: historic first potential female president, then you'll do that. If
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  Speaker 8: you're that celebrity because you want to be relevant, you
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  Speaker 8: want to make friends with the most powerful people. It's
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  Speaker 8: really it's really a fascinating machine that they've built, and
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  Speaker 8: we expose it. We have fun doing it to educate
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  Speaker 8: people just like you, Brian, who you don't really pay
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  Speaker 8: attention to, or you downplay, or you just don't see
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  Speaker 8: the relevance right and knowing what Taylor Swift cares about
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  Speaker 8: tax policy, yeah, probably doesn't have a lot of deep thoughts,
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  Speaker 8: but she is a tool. She is being weaponized by
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  Speaker 8: the party that you're probably voting again.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems to me, Jerome, that they do that
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  Speaker 1: to their own disadvantage because the minute a you know,
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  Speaker 1: a celebrity, a singer, a movie star or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: if you're in this category of entertainment, pop culture, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: you have an probably appeal to a broad array of
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  Speaker 1: the populace. Republicans, Democrats, communists, libertarians. You know, they're all
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  Speaker 1: out there and they may love your music. But the
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  Speaker 1: minute you open your mouth, you are going to alienate.
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  Speaker 1: This is a lot of businesses have learned this as you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure note, Jerome, you are going to alienate a
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  Speaker 1: potentially sizeable segment of the public. So question, why in
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  Speaker 1: the hell, if I'm looking out for my own best interest,
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  Speaker 1: would I even go down that road.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you, I mean, by the time you make it
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  Speaker 8: to the place generally that you're being asked to join
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  Speaker 8: a presidential campaign. I mean, think about the last night
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  Speaker 8: of the twenty sixteen campaign in Cleveland, Ohio, right a
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  Speaker 8: few hours away from where you're sitting, Hillary Clinton standing
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  Speaker 8: on a stage with Lebron James. Remember Beyonce and her
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  Speaker 8: husband Jay Z. Those three individuals won a sports icon
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  Speaker 8: and two music and passion moguls. They stopped making decisions
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  Speaker 8: that that actually mattered. And I do think, you know,
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  Speaker 8: using your platform, if you're Lebron James in a debate
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  Speaker 8: for the greatest of all time, or your Beyonce and
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  Speaker 8: Jay Z, which at the time collectively they were worth
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  Speaker 8: a billion dollars and the millions of records sold, I
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  Speaker 8: think you have to just sort of stop and think
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  Speaker 8: about what you're doing. But I'm telling you, Brian, they
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  Speaker 8: don't get a chance to do that. They're handlers, their
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  Speaker 8: pr Maven's, the publicists, they their their their record labels,
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  Speaker 8: their employees. The pressure and it's so heavy and it's
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  Speaker 8: so high at that point that to Nodors is basically
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  Speaker 8: an endorsement of the right of a conservative party, and
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  Speaker 8: so that I mean, I don't I'm not asking anyone
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  Speaker 8: to feel sorry for celebrity who endorses a Democrat, but
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  Speaker 8: their decision is basically taken away, you know. It's it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 8: you got a nice career there. It would hate for
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  Speaker 8: something to happen to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and clearly they all run the list of being blacklist.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you hear the McCarthy era against communists, and
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  Speaker 1: that was government run going after communists and creating blacklist everything.
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  Speaker 1: This is them, the Hollywood folks who were the subject
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  Speaker 1: of that attack back in the fifties, doing it to themselves,
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  Speaker 1: doing it to their own. They're creating blacklist. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come up with a guy James Woods or Rob Schneider.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows who the four or five you know, conservatives
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  Speaker 1: are in Hollywood and it's tough for them to get work.
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  Speaker 8: And it's really what inspired Andrew Breidbark to start Big Hollywood,
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  Speaker 8: which is sort of the platform and it's Nacian stage
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  Speaker 8: that morphed into the entertainment death that I run today.
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  Speaker 8: Thank god. Breitbart, you know, was born and raised in
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  Speaker 8: Los Angeles, he was turned on by the entertainment system.
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  Speaker 8: And after he left college in New Orleans and came back,
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  Speaker 8: he realized that it wasn't just the media that that
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  Speaker 8: had this alliance with the Democratic Party, it was also
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  Speaker 8: Hollywood celebrities, and most audience members didn't actually know that
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  Speaker 8: their favorite actor or action star or Buddy copp actor
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  Speaker 8: had politics that were so far out of alignment with
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 8: their own. And not only that that they were actually
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  Speaker 8: helping to elect politicians who would then go in and
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  Speaker 8: put in place policies that actually made their lives worse.
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  Speaker 8: And not only did the audience not know that, most
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  Speaker 8: people in the industry knew. And if you spoke your
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  Speaker 8: mind and said anything that venture too far from the
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  Speaker 8: left wing hymnal that as you said, your career could
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  Speaker 8: likely be over your life, your livelihood. And it happened
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  Speaker 8: stemically for decades. And Andrew Breitbart gave voices to their
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  Speaker 8: early blue collar workers who worked on the set. Right
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  Speaker 8: for these A listeners just show up and act like
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  Speaker 8: se Madonna's and do their jobs, and it really morphed
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  Speaker 8: into something powerful. And so we have testimonies that we
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  Speaker 8: can speak to at brankfart dot com. And it's not
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  Speaker 8: just me saying it's you know, papers like The New
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  Speaker 8: York Times realized what we were doing at brank Bart
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  Speaker 8: during the twenty sixteen election or by we were just
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  Speaker 8: showing how directors like Judd Apatow and Tom Hanks and
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  Speaker 8: so many of these singers Lady Gaga for example, and
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: Katie Perry, we're actually just kind of mean spirited and people,
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  Speaker 8: and you know, they were looking down on their audience
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  Speaker 8: because those people dared to vote for Donald Trump, and
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  Speaker 8: more importantly, they didn't want to vote for Hillary Equipment.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no there's no question about that. Jerum Hudson,
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  Speaker 1: entertainment editor at Breitbart. He's going to Suminar tonight. Empower
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  Speaker 1: You America dot org is where you log in. It
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  Speaker 1: is virtual only, and it starts at seven pm. Just
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: make sure you log in earlier because he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about Hollywood pop culture entertainment and how they
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  Speaker 1: influenced politics, but also how we can push back. And
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: to that point, Drum, going back to my initial comment
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  Speaker 1: about these celebrities who choose to embrace and engage in
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: political activism, I suggest to do it to their own detriment,
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  Speaker 1: because there's going to be a swath of people who
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  Speaker 1: will reject them as a consequence of it. But as
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  Speaker 1: to their handlers in Hollywood generally speaking, are they not
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  Speaker 1: now learning a hard lesson with their woke content? People
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  Speaker 1: aren't going to see their movies anymore an they start
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  Speaker 1: throwing in LGBTQ the rainbow of characters, every single you know,
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  Speaker 1: leading role now has to be dominated by someone like
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  Speaker 1: a man who claims he's a woman. People don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see that, and they're not buying it, and they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to the movies and watching it. Have they
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  Speaker 1: learned a lesson yet? Because I do remember a day,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm an old movie fan, that Hollywood really was
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  Speaker 1: a supporter of sort of modern contemporary conservative Christian if
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  Speaker 1: I may be so bold values, and that's what brought
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  Speaker 1: people into the movie theaters. Have they lost sight of
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  Speaker 1: what makes the money?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: The creative process has been poisoned through and through, that's
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  Speaker 8: for sure. I Mean, I think Rob Schneider sort of
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  Speaker 8: makes the joke that you watch these movies and it
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 8: really feels like they're just finding a trans character to
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 8: just insert into the plot exactly and that's that's not
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 8: very far from the truth. And that what Hollywood and
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  Speaker 8: I think Disney has been the typical sphere of this
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  Speaker 8: for a decade, inserting you know, this, this this very
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  Speaker 8: partisan and hyper sexualized and racialized politics into uh, you know,
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  Speaker 8: family fair that would have otherwise just you know, been
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  Speaker 8: flocked to by the average American, particularly at the movie theater.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 8: You you've scorned your audience and you preached down to them.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: Uh and you and you've you've done I think sort
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 8: of a cardinal sin, that being in between a parent
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 8: and their child. The story that always comes to mind
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: is Snoop Dogg watching a Disney movie in the theater
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  Speaker 8: with his five year old grandson and then two moms
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 8: coming on the screen.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 8: This was Life Here, which which was an offshoot of
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 8: you know, the historically popular toy story. Yeah, and Snoop
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 8: Dogg going on a podcast and explaining that situation, having
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 8: to explain to his five year old grandson why two
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 8: moms are holding a child than the kitchen that it's
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 8: it's pretty grotesque, it is. And to think that that's
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 8: that that it was Disney doing that, You're right, they
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 8: lit the credibility on fire. They did it because they
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 8: were chasing profit, and that time it was it was
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 8: popular to be woke in the insert woke stores.
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  Speaker 1: Well within their circles. Jerome, it was popular in their
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: circles America. However, like Snoop Dogg said, WHOA, No, don't
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: try to sell me this crap. I'm not buying it.
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  Speaker 7: That's why it's a it's a cardinal sin.
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  Speaker 8: Oftentimes I struggled trying to apply logic to illogical decisions
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  Speaker 8: made by a billion multi billion dollar multinational corporations. I've
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 8: gotten pretty good at it, but I still get what
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 8: what you're showing here is just like utter confusion, like
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 8: why would these people like themselves on fire like this?
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  Speaker 8: And it made it all the way up to the
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  Speaker 8: executive sweep right. It was the CEO of Disney in
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 8: twenty eighteen, Bob Eiger, who lobbied against the Georgia's Heartbeat
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  Speaker 8: Bill in twenty eighteen. He was being pressured by the
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  Speaker 8: executives in the room. This stuff doesn't happen by accident.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, if you take a Disney a subsidiary like
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 8: ABC and you look at its daytime program, the view
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 8: that thing is an unmitigated stream of left wing propaganda.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 8: It had and it has been for years. You go
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 8: to the Ninth Time Show Jimmy Kimball again, an unadulterated
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: flow of left wing propaganda. But it doesn't matter that
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 8: his ratings are terrible and that they only shoot four
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 8: days a week instead of five, right, and he's losing
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 8: tens of millions of dollars. It is purely politics. That
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: is a choice that Disney and ABC have made, and
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 8: it makes my job fairly easy. But we're just getting
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 8: data points after data points, back to your back to
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 8: your point. Like half of Americans, half of the three
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 8: hundred and forty available customers who could have bought a
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 8: movie ticket in twenty twenty five, only only half of
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 8: them bought one movie ticket all of last year. Right,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 8: And so that is that is that's a warning shot.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 8: I think that's keeping a lot of executives up at night.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 8: A lot of these people just want to get back
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 8: to the wholesome hero, you know, good versus east Well.
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  Speaker 1: Jerome Hunt said, you're yeah, maybe they're listening now. And
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  Speaker 1: it took you just to say the obvious. Quit doing that.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: You're killing your own business. You're you're losing opportunity to
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: make money, and you're missing out at a golden opportunity
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: to cash in on what we in America, what which
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: is a wholesome message without some guy in there that
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: thinks he's a chick. Jero Mudson Entertainment, Brightbart' it's tonight
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  Speaker 1: seven pm. It's gonna be a fascinating conversation about all this,
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: including how we collectively can push back maybe perhaps beyond
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: just not buying the content. Jerome, it's been fun having
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  Speaker 1: you back on Do a great A twenty nine coming
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: up to a thirty fifty five car City Dogs dation.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, which means it is time for the alliterative
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: session we call the Daniel Davis Deep Dive, which is
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: the name of Daniel Davis podcast, retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Davis offering his military analysis. Quite insightful. It is every
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: week and I thoroughly enjoy hearing from a welcome back
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, my friend. It's a pleasure to having you
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: on the show again.
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  Speaker 10: A lot to be here, Brian, thanks for having me again.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: All Right today apparently is what I'll just sort of
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: you've message refferd to is d Day. Apparently eight pm
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: is the all hell rained down. Tuesday will be power
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: plant Day, Big and bridge Day, says Donald Trump. Negotiations
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: apparently haven't yielded any fruit. But before we get to that,
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your reaction in your comment
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: on the quite daring rescue of the airmen from the
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: interior of Iran. That was a pretty impressive operation, considering
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: the number of aircraft, the idea that the Iranian army
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: and forces were all looking for these pilots or this pilot.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: I was rather impressed by it, and I just wanted
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: to get your reaction, and also whether or not you
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: think it says anything about Iran's ability to manage or
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: deal with this warfare that we're involved with, regardless which
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: direction it goes.
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  Speaker 10: Daniel, Yeah, sure, they just in terms of an operation
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 10: under laugh and death conditions and incredible chaos of war.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 10: It is the performance of the troops themselves was just
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 10: magnificent and just I mean, awe inspiring. I mean, I
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 10: don't think that President Trump was exaggerated too much on
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 10: that part there at his press conference yesterday where he
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 10: was talking about it, because this appears to have been
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 10: and they didn't really want to talk this part of
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 10: it up, but based on the number and type of
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 10: assets that were involved, this was probably two separate operations
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 10: that coincided. Won the retrieval of the Weapons Sport Officer
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 10: of the WSO, and then another one that was probably
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 10: going to be a raid somewhere, which is why there
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 10: was all those those two C one thirty top aircraft
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 10: that ended up getting destroyed on the ground, as well
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 10: as the four fastbirds little birds. Sorry, because once we
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 10: had those piles down, we're trying to figure out how
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 10: to get them back. We got the first one back quickly,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 10: and then now all of a sudden we figure out
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 10: where the second one is. But so does Iran. They
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 10: of course are doing everything they can. They're scour and
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 10: it's a huge, huge, vast area. If you do one
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 10: of those Google Earth searches, you can see the terrains
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 10: just it's so hard to figure out. Easy for a
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: guy to hide inside of all that, but with so
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: many people looking for him, you know, it's literally your
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 10: race for the clock, see can get there first. But
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 10: then when you found out that we you know, they
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 10: figured out the Uranius figured out where we were. We
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 10: had all of our helicopters and gunships and everything else
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 10: started coming under the fire. We lost an A ten
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  Speaker 10: attack helicopter, attack ground attack aircraft in addition to all
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 10: these others you're talking about here, and that nobody was
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  Speaker 10: killed is just amazing. But it did come at a
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 10: pretty big cost because the mission itself didn't succeed the
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: raid part, and then you had all those aircraft, so
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 10: a total of six seven right two for six seven
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 10: total of seven aircraft were roles plus the F fifteen
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 10: make that eight. So it was pretty costly. But the
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  Speaker 10: underfire pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It is, and God bless the American soldier and I
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  Speaker 1: just am so awe inspired by them. But you talk
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  Speaker 1: about this mission we had rescue the pilot mission. But
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  Speaker 1: also it suggests to me that you're talking about some
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  Speaker 1: other mission. I know that maybe there's rumors and discussions
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  Speaker 1: about going in and getting what's left of the nuclear
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  Speaker 1: stockpile or but that's boots on the ground kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. I mean, if they're gonna have lun it
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  Speaker 1: isn't Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, so we know there were there were so there
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 10: were over one hundred boots on the ground and Martyr
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  Speaker 10: That's why this was so amazing that nobody lost their lives,
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  Speaker 10: because imagine, for all those aircraft you've seen burned up
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 10: on the ground, an other big aircraft that could carry
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 10: those people out had to then vectory in under fire,
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 10: get off the ground, not get shot down, and get
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 10: everybody out, because it could have been literally catastrophic if
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 10: that bird had been knocked out as well. But yeah,
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  Speaker 10: it appears my best analysis, based on what I've been
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  Speaker 10: able to piece together from satellite imagery and everything else,
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  Speaker 10: is that there was probably going to be a raid.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think that there was enough troops that were
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 10: involved to get anything, but they could have been trying
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 10: to raid something at either at Isfahan or in the
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 10: tanks brought by there.
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  Speaker 1: But and I don't mean partsial through the whole thing,
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: but boots on the ground, boots on the ground. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if we are entering the land of Iran, we are
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  Speaker 1: doing an operation to blow something up or raid or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that's effectively boots on the ground in the country. Haven't
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  Speaker 1: we really just started it. I don't want to draw
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  Speaker 1: parallels with Vietnam and advisors, which ultimately bloomed a whole
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: bunch of troops. But it's got to start somewhere, and
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  Speaker 1: if I mean rescuing a pilot seems me one arguably
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  Speaker 1: legitimate thing. No, we had to send guys in there.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we had to land on the ground to
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  Speaker 1: pick up our pilot. But if you're going to send
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  Speaker 1: people in in a transport plane or whatever to do
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  Speaker 1: an operation, go after a facility, you know, go go
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: after individuals. That to me is more land warfare, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Or is just my lack of ideas?
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  Speaker 2: For sure, it is.
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  Speaker 10: And I've been watching for this because I've got a
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  Speaker 10: number of sources connected to folks on the ground in
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  Speaker 10: the region, and even what's been publicly talked about, you
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 10: don't even have to have special access because you see,
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 10: we said the eighty second Airborne thea on the Marine
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 10: Expeditionary Unit, two of those Delta Force Rangers, and some
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 10: on some unknown other ground forces. So everything was signaled
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 10: that something was gonna happen. They weren't there to, you know,
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 10: to watch the boats go up and down the or
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 10: park in the straight of horror moves, so they were
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 10: definitely sent there for some kind of reasons. So I've
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 10: been watching to see I think this probably was supposed
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 10: to have been it. Now then we wait to find
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 10: out what happens next because we kind of dodged a
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 10: bullet on this one. We'll see what we do next.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: Line in the sand. This sounds like Donald Trump's drawn one,
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: but he has erased them and moved them and prior
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: occasions that some people are criticizing him for it. But
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: eight pm tonight, I guess as Bridges and Infrastructure Day,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've warned about this, lots of people warning
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: about the humanitarian crisis. Isn't going to drive the Iranian
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: people away from their potential interest in helping the United
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: States overthrow the evil empire. I don't know, but it
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: sounds terrible. But this whole thing is all swirling about
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: this conversation, the broader conversation over international law violations, NEVA
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Convention violations. That these are uniquely civilian target civilian infrastructure,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: then it's a violation of international law. But there's a
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: gray area. Well, if the troops are using it, if
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: the Iranian forces are using it, if they are refueling
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: their airplanes at any given facility, or they're using a
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: bridge to take military equipment over, you can make an
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: argument that's a justifiable millilitary target. Anyway, How does this end,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: Daniel Davis.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, just to touch on that laws of war issue,
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  Speaker 10: that's supposed to be something and all during my time
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  Speaker 10: in uniform with sacricainct and that would even supersede any
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 10: kind of particular military utility. We just said we have
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 10: to rise above and if we want to hold anybody
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 10: else accountable in the world, we have to operate by
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 10: the laws of war, and we did. We were very
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 10: ruthless on it. I saw some of our troops actually
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 10: be charged on some of those violations during the Afghanistan War.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 10: I mean, nobody was above the law on this one.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 10: Now we're in some areas where some targets you just
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 10: can't twist it around to say that they're lawful in
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 10: that area. To talk about if something is used for
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 10: military utility and it's a civilian target, absolutely fair game
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 10: according to the laws of war. You don't have to
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 10: bend that one. But if something wasn't used and it
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 10: was just a civilian target, then it doesn't qualify for that.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 10: So that's something that's a little bit we we're playing
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 10: in gray zone in some areas, it's not even gray
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 10: is not gonna work out well for us. But I'll
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 10: tell you you talk about President Trump kind of changing
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 10: the deadlines and all these things that have shifted since then, Well,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 10: just minutes before you and I came on the air
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 10: here he posted a new one here, which is pretty
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 10: troubling to me. He says a whole civilization will die tonight,
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 10: never to be brought back again. I don't want that
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 10: to happen, but it probably will. However, now we have
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 10: a past tense. Now we have a complete and total
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 10: regime change where different, smarter, less radicalized minds prevail. Who knows,
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 10: maybe something wonderful can happen. We will find out tonight
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 10: in one of the most important moments in the long
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 10: and complex history of the world. That's not really reassuring,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 10: because listen, I've been going through my mind to see
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 10: what could he be talking about with these truth socials
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 10: he's been posting about, you know, devastation, and I'm thinking,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 10: what could he do different than the jasm's or the Tomahawks,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 10: or the other bombs that we have, even the bomb
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 10: of the Moab penetrators, et cetera. The bucker Busters, nothing
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 10: can really cause that much damage. But now when you're
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 10: talking about something this categorical, I mean only a nuclear weapon,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 10: I didn't do that, and I just pray to God
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 10: that's not what he's thinking.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's what I'm hearing when you read the words.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: When I heard, I was going to ask you the
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: question out right. I had a listener call him this
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: morning talking about electromagnetic pulse. Maybe take out all of
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: their electrical infrastructure with that way, But that requires using
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon. And I think using a nuclear weapon
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: undernath circumstances is not going to inewer to our benefit
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: long term, I mean globally, international community wise, you know,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, we are the only power who's ever used
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon in a conflict. But I don't know
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: that the public here in the United States has the
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: stomach for all of that, and whether it even will
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: be the appropriate thing to do. Talk about again, going
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: back to whether or not it's a violation of international law.
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: That's wholesale eradication of people without regard to whether the
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: part of a military or not.
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  Speaker 10: Right, And let's hope that this is just rhetoric, yeah,
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 10: because if he actually does this, I mean, it is
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 10: categorical a war crime of the highest ordering. We will
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 10: be a pariah in the world. Nobody will be with
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 10: us on this one. I mean you could you could say,
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 10: all right, during World War Two and there's been years
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 10: fighting already, and there was a calculation made, well, if
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 10: we keep going with this island hopping process, it could
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 10: be a million people could die just to get to there.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 10: But so we're going to use these relatively small tactical
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 10: well what then was the only nuclear weapon, but today's
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 10: term would be a very small tactical loop to say, look,
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 10: we'll keep doing this until you surrender. You can make
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 10: an argument for that. A lot of people have said
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 10: that still was you know, immoral or whatever. I'm not
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 10: going to rehash history, but you could make that argument there,
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 10: and obviously it stood up. You can't make that argument here.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 10: This was not a war imposed upon us. This was
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 10: there was no Pearl Harbor where we were attacked and
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 10: we're responding. This is one that we chose to do,
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  Speaker 10: and there is no reason why we need to.
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  Speaker 8: Do it now.
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  Speaker 10: So I just pray to God that's not what we're
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 10: talking about.
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  Speaker 1: What he's talking about, well, putting aside that could catastrophic
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: potential if they stick with conventional weapons, rockets and the
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: bombs they've been dropping, and they start going after the
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: bridges and the infrastructure that they've been speaking of, will
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: it have an impact. Will it couldn't work.
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  Speaker 10: That's the key thing too. That's one of the other
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 10: reasons why it was puzzled, because the issue is the
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 10: control of the straight of Horror moves. That's everything. You
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 10: can say, yeah, we want the missiles and long range something,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 10: we want them to change their policies, but the problem
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 10: is that the missiles are in twenty seven underground missile
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 10: cities that we cannot destroy. We may have hit one
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 10: or two of them damaged, but they can be repaired.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 10: Others we haven't even touched, so you're just not military.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 10: It doesn't matter how many bunker busses, you just can't
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 10: get them all. And then the other issue is that
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 10: straight of horm moons. Everything is around that because of
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 10: the impact on the global economy, which we're already seeing unfold.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 10: But there's like six different ways Iran could keep that
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 10: closed down. Just taking some territory won't do it. Just
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 10: taking out missiles won't do it, taking out their navy
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 10: there visibles Navy won't do it. So there's nothing you
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 10: can bomb, nothing, no bridge you can take out that's
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 10: going to cause them, force them to open that straight
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 10: and that is your problem. You can bomb all kinds
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 10: of stuff, but nothing militarily. We'll get that straight open
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 10: and if it doesn't, then we're going to be in
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 10: real trouble. And then again that circles me back to
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 10: somebody thinking, well, here is a big solution that can
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 10: solve all those problems.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: If we had greater support from the international community. Let's
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: say the Arab nations all joined and said we're going
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: to stop this Iranian threat, if the European Union, the
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: NATO countries is I had to say, you know what,
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: it isn't our best interest to help out here. Let's
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: get the straight of horror moves open with if we
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: collectively got together on the same page, as comical and
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: laughable and improbable as that is, Daniel Davis, could that
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: open the straight of horror moves? Would more help? Okay,
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: this is absolutely not.
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  Speaker 10: I'll so all that would if you let's say you
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 10: got the entire navy of all of our NATO allies,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 10: and even though it's not an article vibe they acted
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 10: like it was and sent the whole thing over there.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 10: Ships alone can't open it up. All you're going to
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 10: be doing getting them blown up or sunk because they
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 10: could be literally attacked from everywhere in their country, which
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 10: of course is as big as portions of Western Europe.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's a massive area, and you just can't.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 10: We just can't knock their stuff out. There's too many
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 10: of them. If you got all the GCC countries, every
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 10: single one of them, come in now, then you have
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 10: made them an even bigger target because Iran has been
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 10: careful about what they've hid in these countries, and they
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 10: have very signaled, very clearly, we can go after your
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 10: life blood, your desalinization plants, and your oil infrastructure, which
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 10: we have hid a little bit but left the important
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 10: stuff off. They openly said this, but they said, if
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 10: you join in with them and it turns into be
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 10: a big strike here, all of that's on the table,
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 10: and the GCC countries know they have the capacity to
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 10: act on that, which is what they're saying right now,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 10: depending on whatever President Trump does tonight, if he hits
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 10: these targets even with conventional weapons, they say that's already
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 10: going to happen, which would just devastate the entire Middle
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 10: East because then it's no longer a matter of whether
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 10: the streets open up, because your facility to process oil
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 10: will be so badly damaged it will take potentially years
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 10: to replace.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the carg Island problem right there. Sure, it's
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: an easy target. It's right there. It runs what ninety
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: percent of the Iranian oil revenue is there at carg Island.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: You think, well, let's just blow that up. It's the
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: ripple effect. It's taking that oil and the reserves out
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: of the world global economy. That's why I think it
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: hasn't been done anyhow, Daniel Davis, I'd love to know
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: where you think this is going to end up, but
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: it sounds like we're all swirling question marks around our
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: head this morning. But effectively, it's not going to get
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: us really anywhere if we move forward with the bombing campaign.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 10: That's the bottom line here. I don't know what's happening.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 10: I've been pinging every source that I've got it. I
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 10: don't think anybody knows except for Donald Trump, and so
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 10: we're all waiting to find out. But I can tell
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 10: you with great confidence, if we start down this path here,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 10: it's going to be dark and bad for us.
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: Wish we could win on a more positive note Daniel Davis,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: but quite often this is where we end up. It's
• 2:10:54
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