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LNC Gets Medieval on This Podcast · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large and or Drunk Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around is how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm arieal Cast and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: amazing Jonathan Stricklando.
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  Speaker 2: I may or may not be spooky this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: You will look you will be attempting to be spooky
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, whether anybody that finds you spooky.
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  Speaker 2: I could be spooky at home.
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  Speaker 1: Na.
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  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to get this out of the
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  Speaker 2: way because I referenced it. I think at the end
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  Speaker 2: of our last episode that the plan was for me
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  Speaker 2: to perform at the Georgia Renaissance Festival as the town
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  Speaker 2: ghost Hugo Hantus on Memorial Day. That's still the plan,
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  Speaker 2: but for reasons that we will not go into in
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  Speaker 2: this episode. There's just been some like shuffling around. So
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  Speaker 2: hopefully it's still fine. Probably is. There's like a ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine percent chance it's all fine, but me and my
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  Speaker 2: anxiety brain really latches onto that one percent, which is dumb,
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  Speaker 2: but it happens.
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  Speaker 1: Game recognized game, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: But you had your final weekend performances at the festival.
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  Speaker 2: How did those go?
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  Speaker 1: Really well? So the first the first weekend we were there,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about I was at the same stage all weekend.
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  Speaker 1: This weekend we traveled around it. It's a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely more exercise and more exhausting to go to
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  Speaker 1: different stages, but you get different kinds of crowds, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's a different experience. It's it's like a
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  Speaker 1: different interaction at each place. Our pub sets went really
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  Speaker 1: well despite their not being a microphone. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of don't mind that because it takes a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more projection. But that's how I started, So
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  Speaker 1: it felt very nostalgic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, without a microphon. Yeah, I mean like for years
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  Speaker 2: and years and years you performed on stages with no
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  Speaker 2: microphone support whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it was much easier this time because
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  Speaker 1: I've grown in my craft as a singer. But like,
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  Speaker 1: the sets were great. Everybody. We had people who came
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  Speaker 1: back to our sets from last weekend to this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: which is really nice to be embraced that way after
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  Speaker 1: being gone for so long. I absolutely loved it coming home.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that we only did two weekends, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that there was a break in between, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: also so glad we did it. You know, there's just
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  Speaker 1: something more intimate about performing a renaissance festival than probably
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  Speaker 1: any other kind of performance that I have done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's almost like there's almost like no division between
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  Speaker 2: performer and audience, especially the way we typically even stage
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  Speaker 2: music acts. Those stages typically are I mean, you're right there,
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  Speaker 2: like it's not like there's a big divide between you
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  Speaker 2: and the audience. And it's not like you're it's not
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  Speaker 2: like the audience is in the dark and you're being
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  Speaker 2: blinded by stage lights.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's and and you you can feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's a tangible feeling of how you're affecting somebody
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  Speaker 1: else's day. It was really good. It was really wonderful
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  Speaker 1: to be reminded that if I have any friends listening,
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  Speaker 1: this does not apply to you. My band has been
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  Speaker 1: playing for so long, and a lot of the places
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  Speaker 1: we play, like at LARPs and stuff, we go and
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  Speaker 1: we play and we're just doing it for ourselves and
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  Speaker 1: kind of background music. It's nice to be reminded that
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  Speaker 1: we are really good and people really do enjoy listening
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  Speaker 1: to us and not just our friends, if that makes
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  Speaker 1: any sense at all.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: think about going back to our improv days too, Like
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  Speaker 2: I think about shows I did when I was doing
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  Speaker 2: improv classes, and you would have like the class graduation show,
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  Speaker 2: and that was guaranteed to be all friends and family
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  Speaker 2: of the people who were in the class, right. You
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have like, you don't have the average person saying, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 2: there's a graduation improv show, let's go catch that. So
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  Speaker 2: when you do a show where it's like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know any of the people here, and none of
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  Speaker 2: my friends do now of the friends who are in
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  Speaker 2: the show with me do either, That's just a different,
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  Speaker 2: a whole different thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was really great to be remembered. It
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  Speaker 1: was like it was great to see people like impressed
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  Speaker 1: by our harmonies or whatever. There are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: moments that really stood out during one of our sets,
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  Speaker 1: a drug moment. The skies opened up. We invited anybody
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  Speaker 1: who wanted to to crowd up on stage with us,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else crowded into the tavern that was right there,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like a big party. While we were
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  Speaker 1: playing music while it just rained. We played Raven Boys
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  Speaker 1: because that's kind of creepy in a thunderstorm, and a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people came out and like danced in the
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  Speaker 1: rain to the song, and then it was just really good.
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  Speaker 1: Love is a Battlefield is a song that I sing
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  Speaker 1: that I thought would just be like a throwaway that
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  Speaker 1: some people actually really enjoyed, and that was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I like the renaissance arrangements of popular
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  Speaker 2: tunes can always get like it's usually a gradual creep
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  Speaker 2: as people start to realize what is happening because they're
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  Speaker 2: hearing it in a way that they're not used to
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  Speaker 2: in a setting where they don't expect it. So it's
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  Speaker 2: almost like a grenade joke where you've pulled the pen
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  Speaker 2: and you've tossed it, but it takes a little while
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  Speaker 2: before it goes off.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was I don't particularly care either way about this.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's funny because by the time this happened,
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  Speaker 1: I looked rough and I hope I'd never see the video.
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  Speaker 1: There was a guy who as soon as he realized
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  Speaker 1: I was singing Love as a Battlefield and started recording
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  Speaker 1: and was just like really into it, and it was
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  Speaker 1: amazing that I was providing that kind of enjoyment to somebody,
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  Speaker 1: even though I'm like, please let me never run across
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  Speaker 1: this video ever, because I look like a drowned rat.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sweaty. Someone described the weekend as like performing
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  Speaker 1: inside somebody's mouth, and that was one accurate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the humidity was was pretty high over the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and then like you would think that a storm. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: anyone who lives in the Southeast knows this, But if
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  Speaker 2: you don't live in the Southeast, if you don't live
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  Speaker 2: in a really humid environment, then you may not know
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  Speaker 2: that a rainstorm doesn't make it better because usually that
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  Speaker 2: means that after the storm has has petered out, the
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  Speaker 2: sun comes back out, and then it just whatever humidity
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  Speaker 2: was there is multiplied because now all the water is
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  Speaker 2: still like sopping everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: What I will say is like the water was cooler,
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  Speaker 1: so it did help for a little bit, and then
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  Speaker 1: it was didn't. It was the afternoon, so it didn't
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  Speaker 1: get as hot again, and it did tamp down the
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  Speaker 1: dust some, so it was good, but it was definitely
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  Speaker 1: more humid. Like I was just soaking through the other
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  Speaker 1: cool moments. This is a I feel like it's a brag,
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  Speaker 1: but whatever, I'm going to share it. My band sings Wellerman,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure is not news to anybody who's listened
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  Speaker 1: to this podcast for a while. We do a different
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  Speaker 1: version than the kind that goes around on social media
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  Speaker 1: because we've been doing it so long. We made our
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  Speaker 1: own arrangement. We sang it at pub on Sunday, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody in the pub was singing and stomping along, and
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  Speaker 1: the pub was packed out too, and that was a
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  Speaker 1: really cool experience. I haven't had that experience often. My
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  Speaker 1: band usually didn't play the pub stage. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of long standing bands that did. And then we
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  Speaker 1: got invited up to sing the last song of the
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  Speaker 1: last song on Sunday, the last like the so slow,
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  Speaker 1: sappy nostalgia sad song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, every the crowd will start chanting sad song,
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  Speaker 2: sad songs, yeah for the last one.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that this is not I'm sure that
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  Speaker 1: this is the feeling that everybody gets who sings that
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  Speaker 1: last song, because there's just such a anybody who's at
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  Speaker 1: pump sing who's there for the last song they've had
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  Speaker 1: a good day, they're super into it, and there's just
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  Speaker 1: this air of like gratitude for everybody, for the performers,
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  Speaker 1: for the people there. When we sang the last song
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  Speaker 1: and everybody cheered at the end, it was overwhelming, Like
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  Speaker 1: I've never been given the honor of singing the last
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  Speaker 1: song again, just because there have been so many established
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  Speaker 1: But since we were guest performers, we got asked if
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to sing one, and it wasn't a song
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  Speaker 1: that most people knew unless you're a tenpenny fan, you're
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  Speaker 1: not familiar with Rosaven this more. It is on our CD.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we haven't pushed that in years. We
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  Speaker 1: made that in two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 2: And decades ago.
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, Yeah, it's our I guess it's our CD anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a pretty c anniversary.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, yes, yeah, yeah, but we sang it everybody
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  Speaker 1: really like, people really enjoyed it, which is great. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of people give us a standing of ace. It
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  Speaker 1: was just a really lovely experience, And like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: selfish saying that about myself, even though it's completely valid,
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  Speaker 1: because the reason I perform is to give that gift
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  Speaker 1: to other people, right, but it's nice to get it
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  Speaker 1: back as well. And I can tell that other people
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  Speaker 1: were also getting that enjoyment. So it was all around
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful experience. Everybody was very welcoming. All the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the cast in the band were very welcoming. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it was sad when it was over. That's always a
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  Speaker 1: good sign of a good run, is when you're sad
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  Speaker 1: that it's over, even if you're like, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go back next weekend, but I do hope we
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  Speaker 1: get to guest perform again in the future. So I've
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  Speaker 1: talked way too long.
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  Speaker 2: About this now, Well, I feel like that's a good
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  Speaker 2: answer to this week's question, which is what's one of
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  Speaker 2: your favorite geeky group experiences? And what you just described
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  Speaker 2: I think falls right into that, like this idea of
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  Speaker 2: community and celebration, and there's an element of validation in there.
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  Speaker 2: But while that's an element, and I won't even say
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  Speaker 2: an insignificant element, ultimately, this group expression of joy, even
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  Speaker 2: when you're singing a sad song, is a it's something special, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's the it's the reason why if someone came
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  Speaker 2: back to perform at the festival, like doing one season
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  Speaker 2: is one thing. I know a lot of people who
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  Speaker 2: are one and done because because it's a ton of work,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes your bits don't work out, and that can be
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  Speaker 2: really rough. Like a guy I know who's a brilliant
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  Speaker 2: actor and extremely funny, did one season and that was
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  Speaker 2: it because it was just he found it brutal because
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  Speaker 2: the sense of humor just didn't mesh with patrons.
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  Speaker 1: Or he wasn't finding the right patrons.
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  Speaker 2: Or yeah, I thought he was hilarious, Like I was, like,
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  Speaker 2: he makes such bold, silly choices that I thought he
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  Speaker 2: was brilliant, and he was one and done. If someone
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  Speaker 2: comes back, it's because they found that magic, because you're
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  Speaker 2: sure as heck not making enough to justify coming back
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  Speaker 2: over and over and over again. I mean, it might
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  Speaker 2: be a nice little depending on your role, it might
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  Speaker 2: be a nice little boost, but like chances are you're
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  Speaker 2: spending almost as much just in you know, costuming, transportation, food,
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So those moments are really important,
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  Speaker 2: not just for patrons but for the performers. Like that's
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  Speaker 2: why most of us anyway do what we do. So
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  Speaker 2: with that in mind, I have a story I want
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  Speaker 2: to tell about the festival.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to hear. Is this your favorite geek
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  Speaker 1: gee group.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the funny thing is that I wrote a
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  Speaker 2: different one down. It was still festival related, but I
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  Speaker 2: wrote a different one down than because what I wrote
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  Speaker 2: down was the idea of us just cast sitting backstage
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  Speaker 2: at King's Hall at the end of a day and
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  Speaker 2: singing silly songs together. Oh yeah, like Gummy Bears, like
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  Speaker 2: the theme to Gummy Bears. That was a big one.
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  Speaker 2: But like, so, we have a break area at the
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  Speaker 2: festival now that is referenced as Shiny Cauldron, but it's
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  Speaker 2: like an employee's only, cast only break area. But when
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  Speaker 2: Ariel and I were performing in like the mid two thousands,
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  Speaker 2: the place that everyone went at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: day was behind Kingshall stage, which is on the opposite
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  Speaker 2: side of the festival site from where Shiny Cauldron is.
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  Speaker 2: Like literally you could not get further and still be
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  Speaker 2: on property unless you were like with the RVs or something.
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  Speaker 2: But that's where we would gather, And that was originally
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  Speaker 2: what I was going to write down, was that those moments,
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  Speaker 2: and those still are very dear to me. But your
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  Speaker 2: story reminded me of an incident that happened in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand spring of two thousand. It was we were doing
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  Speaker 2: we would perform as Shakespeare parody, and it was done
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  Speaker 2: in the style of the rude mechanicals from Midsummer Night's Dream,
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  Speaker 2: where it's supposed to be various members of the village
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  Speaker 2: community trying to put on a Shakespearean show and doing
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  Speaker 2: our terrible job at it. So it's like a thirty
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  Speaker 2: minute version of a Shakespeare show. And that season, the
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  Speaker 2: show we were doing was Macbeth, and there was a
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  Speaker 2: day where our mid day performance was coming up on
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  Speaker 2: Greenwood Stage, which doesn't exist anymore, and we started and
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  Speaker 2: within the first like five minutes, maybe even the first
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  Speaker 2: two minutes, there's this crack of thunder and then rain
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  Speaker 2: just starts pouring down, and one of our actors, Cynthia,
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  Speaker 2: who was also playing the Queen the village, shouted out
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  Speaker 2: executive decision, we're canceling the show, because it was like
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  Speaker 2: people were still kindly sitting for it, but it was
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  Speaker 2: clear it was going to get worse before it gets better.
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  Speaker 2: So the audience clears out. We go backstage and like
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of hyped up because you were about to
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  Speaker 2: do a show and now like you're not doing a show,
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  Speaker 2: and we're kind of just staring at each other. And
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  Speaker 2: then Cynthia, who was the last person in the world
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  Speaker 2: I would ever expect to do this, says, do you
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  Speaker 2: want to go outside and just perform it in the street.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we won't have all of our props and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but we can do the show. And the rest of
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  Speaker 2: us were like, yeah, We're totally game for it. We're
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  Speaker 2: not wearing dry clean only costumes. You are, you're wearing
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  Speaker 2: the queen out that we're all peasants or maybe merchant class.
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  Speaker 2: So we all went out there and we performed that
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  Speaker 2: Beth in the pouring down rain while people were staying
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  Speaker 2: under the shelter of a shop, so they were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were trapped there anyway because it was raining so hard,
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  Speaker 2: and we got through the entire show. The rain had
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  Speaker 2: not let up the whole time, and we got such
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  Speaker 2: a great response from the audience, who were really appreciative
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  Speaker 2: of the fact that we stayed in the rain and
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  Speaker 2: played the whole thing, and we we you know, we
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  Speaker 2: ended up going over the top even more than we
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  Speaker 2: normally would, largely to help balance out the fact that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of our costumes and prop pieces we couldn't
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  Speaker 2: bring out because the rain would destroy them. Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 2: but it ended up being one of my favorite moments
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we we banded together as this five
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  Speaker 2: person troop and patrons really appreciated it. It really resonated so
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  Speaker 2: much so that Cynthia ended up getting a professional game
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  Speaker 2: because of that. Because there was someone who was who
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  Speaker 2: did Murder Mystery theaters who was so impressed with what
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  Speaker 2: we did. He reached out to her and she became
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  Speaker 2: the coordinator for Murder Mystery Theaters.
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  Speaker 1: Well. And as a as a patron, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can walk, especially nowadays, you can walk around the
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  Speaker 1: fair and not see anybody else, right, Like you could
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  Speaker 1: just be bad timing where every street character is in
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  Speaker 1: the middle in between bits or latzis or interactions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or they're at the joust or either at the
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  Speaker 2: maypole or something else.
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  Speaker 1: And moments like that, I mean coming from a coming
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  Speaker 1: from a patron view, because I've also been a patron.
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  Speaker 1: My Geehee story wasn't what I shared, but it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be now because I talked about it forever. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: but like it makes you feel special that somebody is
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  Speaker 1: willing to do that or like, you know, you're a
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  Speaker 1: part of small group of people, of a small group
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  Speaker 1: of people instead this giant that is getting to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: this very special thing that would not happen at any
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  Speaker 1: other time. You're exactly in the right place, at the
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  Speaker 1: right moment, with people who care enough about your happiness
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  Speaker 1: to do this thing, and it's it's a very special
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  Speaker 1: moment from the patron side as well.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I uh, it's one of my favorite memories. Again,
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  Speaker 2: those are the moments, as uncomfortable as it is to
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  Speaker 2: perform and pouring down rain, like it's not like it
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  Speaker 2: was pleasant, right, but the fact that people were so
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  Speaker 2: appreciative and we were having fun even though we were uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: But those are the sort of things that convinced me
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  Speaker 2: to come back against my better judgment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun. Shanny Cauldron
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  Speaker 1: is also a lot of fun. Like being able to
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  Speaker 1: decompress and goof off with everybody backstage after is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Usually there's people telling stories about something funny that
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  Speaker 2: happened at some point. Sometimes those stories start circulating well
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  Speaker 2: before Shiny and then you're like, okay, I have got
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  Speaker 2: to hear what actually happened after I heard this rumor.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to name any specific ones because they
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  Speaker 2: are some of them are wild.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the one that you're thinking about that's wild that
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing has to do with John Keenan a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and maybe some court dancing. There's a similar story
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  Speaker 1: from this year.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking of something that happened last season, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I can't. This is a family friendly show.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I cannot even know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: So there was an unfamily friendly thing that happened this
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: season as well. That just keeps like I feel like
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it happens every year, but who knows, who knows? Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it was fun this year. When I went backstage on Sunday,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: there is a little bit like one bag of ice
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: left and they stuck it into cooler and one of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the Shenanigans is like, I'm going to stick my head
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: into this cooler with this ice and some water. Anybody
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: want to join me? And of course it turned into
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: this giant production where everybody would stick their head in
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and people were shouting dunk it, dunk it, dunk it,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: including the pro staff, and you dunk your head and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: then you'd flip it out like a little mermaid, and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it just felt really good at the end of a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: very hot, humid day. And it was just some wholesome
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Shenanigans that gave you a little pep in your step
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: after an exhausting day.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, damn Yeah. If you thought that the people who
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: work at Renaissance Fairs and the entertainment cast are a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: bunch of goofy Doris, you're right and we love it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Yep. Oh goodness.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Well, then let us move on to talk about what
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: we have watched since the last recording. I'm gonna go
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: real quick because I've just got two I watched the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: series finale of The Boys. Now, I have not watched
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: any of the rest of season five. I read recaps,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and initially, when I watched the end of The Boys,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I was very confused because one of the recaps I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: read for the penultimate episode failed to mention something that's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: key in the finale, and I'm like, wait, how is
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: this person able to do that thing? How did that happen?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And then after I read a different recap, I'm like, oh, okay,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they explained it. I know that there's a lot of
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: backlash on the way the Boys' final season played out.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't even bother watching it, just reading the recaps,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and I was reading recaps that weren't like overtly biased, right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But even just reading the recaps, I was feeling like, Yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of disappointed where where this is going? Too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of people that seasons one
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: through three of the Boys were really strong, and that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: season four was less so fell a little more meandering.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: The recaps I read from season five reinforced that for
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: me a little bit, And I also felt that the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: conclusion that was reached in the series finale took a
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: lot of shortcuts, which is weird for a show that's
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: been building for five years. For this specific moment, I
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: think the various fates of the different characters I like like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I like what happened, and even how it happened to
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: an extent to everyone without giving spoilers, but I felt
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that the build up to that, to the how of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: how it all came out like that, I don't think
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: was very satisfying from my perspective. Keeping in mind, I'm
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: someone who didn't actually watch the rest of the episodes
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of season five. Maybe if I did i'd feel differently,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: but so it's a mixed bag for me, Like, I
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: think the characters all ended up where they needed to be,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but I don't know that it was a satisfying journey. Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: The other thing I watched was and I really scrubbed
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: through it. I can't say I watched it because I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: skipped around a bit. I watched Send Help, which is
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: that Sam Raimi movie about Rachel McAdams. Is in it
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: about the CEO and his employee who end up getting
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: stranded on an island, and that the roles are reversed
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: where she's the capable one and he's the helpless one,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and you know, he has to learn to not be
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: such a colossal piece of crap or else she will
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: let him die. So I will say, like the setup,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think you're like fifteen or twenty
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: minutes in before you get onto the plane. Even so,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of setup of really hammering home how
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: big a jerk this guy is and how downtrodden and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: pathetic this employee is. And I was like, within the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: first five minutes or so, I'm like, Okay, I get it,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: but I've got another ten to fifteen minutes of this.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I have to sit through. So I skipped ahead because
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, I get it. I don't need to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: have like a cringey experience watching this play out. And
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: then I watched a good stretch of the beginning of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: them on the island, and then I jumped ahead again
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: toward the end where everything was going you know, Epe
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: going banana, as they say, And so saying that I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: watched them to help is being exceedingly generous to me.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I think what I saw was well done, but it
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was so so overt and so not subtle that it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: kind of turned me off. That was the point, Like
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it was purposefully that way. I don't mean to say
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: like they tried to do something and failed. They tried
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: to do something and they succeeded. It just was a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: little too much, too on the nose for me, Like gotch,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I would have preferred it to be dialed back a bit,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: but it's Sam raimid. Sam Raimi doesn't do dialed back. No, no, anyway,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that's what I watched.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I have been told about the finale of the Boys,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: and I've had it compared to me to the finale
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of the comic books, and I think had I stuck
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: with the series. I would prefer the TV show finale better.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the ending for certain characters in the comic
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: books is oh way more grim.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and some characters who I don't think deserve it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So really just one or two characters I don't think
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: deserve as grim of an ending. But also I haven't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: read the comics, so I.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Know exactly who you're talking about.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So for me, I've been watching Geek Jeopardy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: The new season has dropped on Netflix and I so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it's coming out daily Monday through Friday right now, and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched Friday's episode yet, but I'm caught up otherwise.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yesterday was the first day that I felt like I'm
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: not doing good at this at all, so that's kind
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of fun. I also watched a bunch of dropout content.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I've restarted City Council of Darkness, which is the current
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Dimension twenty actual play. I watched the Parlor Room for
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the Game Changer Home edition. It looks pretty fun. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I watched the first Game Changer of this new season,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: which was a lot it is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Was that like the board game thing with the legal Yes, with.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: The Legal Eagle guy. Yeah, so Legal Eagle was on there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: It was about violating standards and things like that on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: so it got pretty pretty blue. That was the whole point.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But watching the legal Eagles reaction to everything was precious.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And then task Master. I'm keeping up with task Master.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sad when it's over.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, but you know, that's such a juggernaut. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: think that that's like that'll go for as long as
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: they want to do it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, I mean for sure, I'm just
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be sad when this current season is over. This
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: current season, I really like, I find everybody delightful. Nobody
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: gets very like there's a little bit of ragging on,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: like oh you're going to rule that way or whatever,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, everybody gets along. They're all
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: really supportive of each other. They're all they've all got
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: great attitudes. They all are very good at playing off
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: of each other's like little quirks and missteps, but in
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a friendly way, not a malicious way. And it's it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: been an absolute delightful journey so far.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, Kamil and Johnny and this one. Yes, and is
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: he clearly having a good time. I know he really
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: wanted to be part of the show.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So honestly, there are times when he feels like he's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: having the least good time. I can tell that there's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a slight there's always a slight difference between like British
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: sensibility and humor and US sensibility and humor. Right, And
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes he'll say stuff he's to be like. He'll be like,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: oh God, please don't put that in the show. But
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: he's having a good time. He's he is wonderful to watch. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it's just.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be a it's gotta be an interesting
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: contrast with Manzucus, because his whole thing was I want
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to be as big and and brash and American as possible,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Like I am embodying to the.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: To the point it alienated some British folk.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. I was like, I was like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: it's an act y'all.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no. But Kamel Kamal is a is he
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it's wonderful. He's yeah, he's fully into it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So that's cool. Well, I'm glad that you're enjoying it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm sad that it's coming to a conclusion for this season.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Hopefully the folks that get for the next one will
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: be just as delightful, and there's always a chance they'll
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: do another like All Star kind of thing. They've done
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: that a couple times.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Right, So they do. They do an All Star every
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: five seasons, so that the contestants for the All Star
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: are the last five winners, got it. But they also
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: do a New Year special every year. They also have
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Australia and New Zealand that I watch. So yeah, so.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: There's still still some sources of joy out there. Yeah.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I just got to really work on getting famous enough
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to be on it. I just gotta I got to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: get there.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Great for us, I would I would love to see
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: your problem solving skills really put to the test, but.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It would be horrible. Look, indecision is my superpower about
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: half the time, and so it would be really fun
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to try to push through that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I would be struggling to remind myself that before I
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: tackle any given task, I should really explore my environment
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: thoroughly and really pay attention to the wording of the task,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: because so many times it's revealed like, oh, the answer
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: was like right there. You just didn't think like there
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: was something you know, people just assumed something was off limits,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't mentioned in the rule, like, yeah, there's
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: one where it was you had to do a task
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: with the lights out. Well, actually didn't have to do
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the task with the lights out. It just started with
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the lights being out, but there was no rule saying, Yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: there's no rule saying you couldn't turn the lights back on.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and everybody goes in going I'm gonna
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: lateral think, I'm going to check under the table, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: then of course that's the time when like there's a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: task under the table that you wish you hadn't seen. So, yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: it would be fun. I've I think I well, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: am definitely purchasing the at home game, so we'll have
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to play it at some point. It was just I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: went to go purchase it after the pre order because
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't get on it in time. And there are
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different versions and I gotta pick which
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: version I want.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, that's tough to talk about indecision being
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: your superpower.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Well, there's going to Ariel's game room and like, okay,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: so which of these fifteen versions would you like to play?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So there's a board game and an escape room that
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: came out this past year, and I was like, oh,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: finally a task Master game. But apparently there's been a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: task Master card game and there's a few seasons of that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't want to buy them all. I want
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to buy one and then if I play it and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: enjoy it, I'll buy another game. You know what I mean?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Sure, totally. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, that is a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: great start. We got our first half hour, all the way,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: let's move on. But that's okay. It's okay because we
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: have we have a fairly I say this every time,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: but we have a fairly streamline lineup this time, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: we don't have like a big discussion point, I don't think.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: So how about we go on to thirty seconds or
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: less and the lovely Ariel has the first.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we've talked a couple of times about Very
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Young Frankenstein starring zach Alifanakis. Well, now it's been picked up,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the series has been ordered by FX. It's a completely
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: original take on the Melbrooks thing. We know that. My
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: question is it going to be the Frankenstein the Doctor
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: or Frankenstein's monster who's very very young. Because I'm looking
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: at the cast doctor, I'm looking at the cast. Nobody
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: who's listed as starring in this looks exceptionally young.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, here's what I think. Okay, this
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: is already going to go be on thirty seconds. Here's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: what I think. Young Frankenstein refers to the fact that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: it's the great grandson of doctor Frankenstein. Okay, this character,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I think is supposed to be the grandson or great
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: grandson of that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Frankenst Okay, Okay, I understand.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: So not young as in young and human years, but
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: young in comparison with the doctor Victor von Frankenstein.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, because Spencer House is starring in it, I think
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: probably is young Frankenstein. Maybe it'll be Zach Alphanback is
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: doing that. Anyhow, nobody looks particularly particularly under thirty.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my apologies for blowing up your thirty second spot.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: This week we got confirmation that two MCU actors, Scarlett
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Johansson and Sebastian Stan will appear in The Batman Part two.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Stan will play attorney Harvey Dent, who eventually becomes the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: villain two Face. Johansen will play Gilda Gold dentse romantic
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: partner and eventually in the comics Anyway, A Crime Boss,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: serial Killer. No idea if that's going to actually unfold
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in the movie itself.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I wish I'd made me want to watch it. Another
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: thing I wish I wanted to watch is the live
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: action The Legend of Zelda, which has been moved up
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: after it was moved back. So the original release date
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: was March twenty sixth, twenty twenty seven, and then it
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: moved to May seven, twenty twenty seven, and now it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: back to April thirtieth, twenty twenty seventh. This means that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: they're probably just trying to find a sweet spot to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: not compete with other movies.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you can't find the listing, you'll just
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: know it's the missing link. All right. While we wait
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: for that community movie that's supposedly still coming, Dan Harmon
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: has another iron in the Fire, which is a Rick
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and Morty film. Jacob Hare, who is the show supervisor
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: for the series, will direct Season nine of the show,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: premieres this weekend on the twenty fourth. No word on
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: when we can expect the movie, but Hair indicates that
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the film should, in many ways just be a bigger, longer,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: better episode of the show.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: We've just celebrated the forty fourth anniversary of the Conan
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: movie that starred Arnold Schwarzenegger that came out the year
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I was born. And I'm not forty four yet. Now
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm younger. Haha, cut all that out.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Jonathan, Listen, I'm fifty. I am not cutting any of
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that out.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Anyhow. So, Yeah, we just hit the forty fourth anniversary
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of the Conan movie, and at that time, Arnold Schwarzenegger
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: said they're coming out with a new Conan movie, not
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: a remake, but a sequel King Conan that he will
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: still star in. He wants to work with the original team.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I'm morbidly curious to see how that's gonna roll along.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Excellent well. In twenty twenty four, Lin Manuel Miranda and
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Isa Davis released a concept album based on the novel
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: and subsequent film adaptation of The Warriors. Immediately people began
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to speculate on a possible stage musical, and next spring,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: pending theater availability, Broadway will beckon the Warriors to come
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: out and play. I'm really excited about this, and I'm
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: curious how much will change from the concept album.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: What is more depressing the outsiders of the.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Warriors, Oh, the outsiders.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I've never seen either, but they're both musicals. Now, okay,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: speaking of musicals, Death Becomes Her Well end It's run
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: on June twenty eighth. It's had a twenty month run
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: on Broadway. It was really really successful at the beginning,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but audiences are kind of petering out, so they will
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: end it West Kid's on when, So we're just gonna
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: stop there.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I like it. That's a great way to stop. In
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, a cult horror film directed by Richard
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Attenborough and starring Anthony Hopkinson and Margaret taught us to
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: be creeped out by ventriloquist dummies and they're unhinged operators.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: It was called Magic. Now a remake is in the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: works with horror icon Sam Raimi at the Helm. Also
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: fun fact, Magic is based off a novel by William Goldman.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That's the same guy who wrote The Princess Bride.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Interesting, well, we know Sam Raimi is going to put
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: his all into it. Kiana Reeves is going to some
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: voice acting. This is not new for him, but he
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is going to voice the title role of Hidari, which
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: will be a stop motion Japanese action feature by Masashi
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Kawa Mura. I should have looked up how to pronounce
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: these names. It had a proof of concept that was
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a short, and now they like it, so they're doing it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a Carpenter version of John Wick.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: My first introduction to the comedy duo Mitchell and Webb
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: was a bootleg clip of their old sketch show that
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: was on YouTube, and it was the famous are We
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the Baddies sketch? Well, today Robert Webb and David Mitchell
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: are heading into a new sketch series. They're titled Mitchell
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and Webb Are Not Helping. It's actually been going for
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: a while, but the show is now launching its own
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel to help promote the series abroad, which I say,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: yay for accessibility.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, uh mondays am. I right, Carfield coming to Magic
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the Gathering. He's going to have three secret layer cards.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I think it look fun. It's so weird. I'm still
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: trying to wrap my brain around it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I had to include that because I saw
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the headline of Garfield coming to Magic the Gathering, I thought,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: so it's come to this. Well. In other news, IMAX,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: as in the Big Big Screen technology company is reportedly
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: in talks with potential buyers. According to The Wall Street
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Journal and Deadline, recently, IMAX has performed well, So it's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: an interesting to me that the company is actually pursuing
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the idea of being acquired. I've yet to see any
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: information about the interested parties. And of course this doesn't
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: guarantee that a sale will eventually go through in the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: first place. Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of pending sales for media things we're waiting
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to go through. It's true.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Sure, I'm just waiting for the last the last thirty
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: seconds or less.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: That was the last thirty seconds or was it?
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought you had one more. My apologies, like.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me? Weird? Not to be
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: salty about the WB thing that hasn't finished.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Yet, Peak, Peak, Behind the curtain. We have a we
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: have a show lineup that we keep in spreadsheet form.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: But I do lots and lots of notes, So I
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: just put all my notes into a word document and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: then I close out of the spreadsheet in order to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: facilitate recording. So in my head, you had one more,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: and that's on me.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Ah, let me see.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: No, we're not gonna make one up. Okay, we're gonna move.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move on to our section. This is our
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: famous segment where we talk about the things that don't
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: necessarily fall into the geek sphere, and we call this segment,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: how'd that get in there?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Uh? This week? The answer is, Jonathan put them there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: That's true. It's true. I did put all of them
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: So look, I started, I did stuff Monday and then
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit today.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that wasn't It wasn't a criticism. It was
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: more of an admission of guilt.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what this is?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: This.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about these. I'm very
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: torn on these, how those get in there, on whether
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in them or not. And the first one
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: is the Invite, which is Olivia Wilde and Seth Rogan
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: are a married couple who their marriage is on the rocks,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and then they have some neighbors over who are weird
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and maybe want to hook up with them, but maybe
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: want to kill them, but maybe are just picking who knows.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: That's the movie.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, their neighbors are played by Edward Norton and Penelope Cruz.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so the way I wrote it is pretty
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: much the same what you just said, Ariel my notes
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: say their neighbors come over for dinner and things get
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: tense as mind games are played, insinuations are made, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: things look like they're headed for extracurricular activities. It is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: actually technically a remake. There was a Spanish film called
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: The People Upstairs, but it made me think of a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: movie from back in twenty fifteen that Adam Scott was
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in called The Overnight. Jason Schwartzman was in that one
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: as well, But it does sound like these are different films.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: It just when I saw this, I was thinking, oh,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that makes me think of this other movie. I remember
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the trailers for it because I haven't seen The Overnight,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: but that's what it made me think of. It comes
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: out on my birthday on June twenty sixth. I do
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: not think I'll be watching it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I was curious, Like the first half of the trailer,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to even watch this trailer whatever,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's not an interesting concept to me. And then it
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: then like, oh wait, is this scary? Is this what
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the heck? Yeah? So, but I also don't think we'll
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: be watching it.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: It is kind of interesting that we've we I mean,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I guess seeing marriages kind of relationships in general kind
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: of hit. Rocky Spots has been a rich source for
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: both comedy and drama, so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: But there are a lot of movies that have come
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: out recently that have elements of that, right, Like there's
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the Yeah, the one where it's the couple that's going
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: on the cabin trip and it turns out that both
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: members of the couple plan to kill the other one.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It's one Samorrow Weavings in Seagull I think, right, isn't it,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And it's like, there's that one. There's also The The Roses,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: which was a remake essentially of the War of the Roses. Like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of those recently, so I just
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: thought it's interesting.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: This is another one, yeah, the Four Seasons, which I watched,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: which is a much more happier movie about marriages and
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: relationships and things like that. I mean, it's started back
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: in like the first one I recall about this, and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I know it's not the first movie about this, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the first one I recall about it is Indecent Proposal
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: back in like nineteen ninety three. Yeah, So speaking of
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: old old sensibility as and movies coming back kind of
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: voicemails for Isabelle is another trailer we have.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, this one. It really depends on which
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: way that movie goes as to whether or not I
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: think it's a cute concept or I think it's absolutely horrifying.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, Well okay, so here's the premise. There's
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: this guy. He gets a new work cellular phone, and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: then he starts getting voicemail messages on his work phone
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: from a young woman named Jill, and she's leaving messages
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: for her sister, Isabelle, and he starts to use those.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: He thinks Jill's cute and he would like to date her,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: so he starts using the information he learns from these
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: voicemails in an effort to get close to her and
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: to kind of manipulate the situation so they can have
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: a meet cute, right, and to use all the information
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: he learns to inform him as to how to behave
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: in order to have this relationship with her. And then
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: he learns that Isabelle, the person that she is leaving
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: all these voicemails for is her sister who died. So
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: then it's like, well, does he continue to does he
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: come forward and it confessed what has happened? Does he
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: continue to listen to the messages and use those to
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: guy the way he interacts with her? And I just
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: think that's ghoulish, Like it reminds me of Dear Evan
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Hanson in a way, Like the idea of using someone's
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: passing to emotionally manipulate people, And that's what ye like.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And it's being presented as isn't this a fun romantic comedy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, he has shown to be struggling with the
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: idea once he realizes that Isabelle is dead. But yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it's still like a pretty creepy thing to do.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're they're selling it as like a Sleepless
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. You've got male Harry meet Sally kind of
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a vibe. And but yeah, it also gives me like
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: very dear Evan Hansen, you know, if it's unintentionally predatory
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and but like and I mean by that, I mean
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: like praying on this girl's emotional vulnerability. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And if he decides to learn to get to know
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: her outside of that once he realizes, then I think
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: it could be a really cute movie.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to say, because obviously the trailer, like,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: first of all, you know, the things you're seeing in
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the trailer aren't necessarily happening in sequence as they happen
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: in the film, right, because I get the feeling that
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I really get the feeling that he initially is using
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: those voicemails to guide his behavior without knowing that the
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: sister has passed away, and that once he realizes that, that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: where he has this internal conflict as to how to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: handle that situation. Because if it's the other way, where
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: he knows early on that the sisters passed away and
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: he's still using the information, the man is a monster,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like this becomes a horror movie, not am com.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The rom com version is Fate brought this person
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: who needed somebody together with somebody who could be understanding.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But again, yeah, it depends on the order of operation.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Zoey Deutsch is in this. Nick Robinson plays the dude,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Zoe Deutsch plays the jill, and Nick Hofferman plays a
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: chef who I think will be the highlight of the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: movie if I do watch it. It comes out June
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: nineteenth on Netflix. I'll also say there was another Zoey
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Deutsch project that I saw a trailer for and I
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: did not include the trailer in this one because it
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: was even more questionable than the ones that are already
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: in the stuff that that hell did that get in there? Section?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Interesting? You know, I don't think I've watched much or
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: any of Zoey Deutsch's stuff.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Oh she's so good in zombie Land too. Oh, she's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: so good in that. She plays a vapid character who
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: turns out like she's more there than you think she is,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: but she's still pretty vapid, and she does a really
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: good job with that. I thought she was incredible entertaining
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: in that movie.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. I watched zombie Land and quite enjoyed it, but I,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: for some reason ever watched zombi Land too. Maybe I
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: should do that. I can't do it this weekend because
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: there's too many shows. Burrows just came out, and I
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: also want to see Mortal Kombat and maybe Mandalorian and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Gregu probably Mortal Kombat more.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying that it's worth it's worth watching.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's as good as the first one,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: but it is still quite entertaining.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. The next movie I don't think will be entertaining.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, for me is little brother. Yeah,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: but then again, I've never had siblings.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: So you know I have. I still don't think it's entertaining.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: The premise here is that so John Cena stars in
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: this and plays like a high end real estate agent
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and he hears that his brother has been in a
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: terrible accident, so he rushes to the hospital. He then
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: finds out that his brother is not his actual biological brother.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: It's rather the person who was when they were both kids,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: his little brother, as in big brother, little brother like
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: charity organization. So he had been assigned this kid as
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: his little brother, and now the guys all grown up
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: and is still looking to him as being a big brother.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: The little brother in this case is played by Eric
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Andre and it turns out that he's just off the
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: crazy chain. What and look at all the wacky shenanigans
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: that follow while John Cena is trying to have his
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: perfectly organized, buttoned down life. And therein allegedly is the comedy.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I mean in the trailer, it looks like maybe he's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: been a bit caught caught in a rut and a
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: bit disconnected from his family, and his family would like
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: him back, and maybe this crazy we'll get him out
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of that. But the crazy that happens in this trailer
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: would not get me out of that rut. It would
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: just make angry.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: And none of it looked funny to me.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: No, it was all very base level, twelve year old
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: potty humor kind of humor. Like at first, I was like, Okay,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: this could be a second Central Intelligence, because it's that's
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a movie where Kevin Hart's life is kind of in
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a rut and he gets contacted by an old high
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: school friend who seems to be off the chart but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: then is actually like a secret agent. And I found
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: that very funny. But it wasn't as blue as this.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: By also played by a former professional wrestler.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Rock. So at first I was like, Okay,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: maybe I do really like John Cena. He's got this
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: depth to acting that just surprises me. Or it doesn't anymore,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: but it did.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: It's it's weird, though, because I could see this working
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: if the actors were playing the other roles. If Eric
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Andre was playing the guy who's got it together and
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: John Cena is the crazy, off the chain little brother,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: like I should see it working that way.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That's that's more what Central Intelligence was. Yeah, but it
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: is interesting. I don't think I've ever seen now, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: haven't watched a lot of Eric andre stuff, but I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever seen him do a non
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Zany character.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's fair. This comes out. Guess what
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: day this comes out. I'm going to give you a hint.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Valentine's Day.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to give you a hint. It's a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: day that's really important just to me, guy, Fox Day,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: my birthdays, just you, No one else cares. It comes
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: out June twenty six on Netflix.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: You can do fine, you can do the rest of
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: this podcast by yourself.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Just say okay, I'm just gonna say, like you're going
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: to hear the date June twenty sixth a few times
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: this episode, or maybe I don't know, maybe that was
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: the last time. It's happened twice already. So yeah, it
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: comes out June twenty sixth on Netflix. I maybe it's
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: just a bad trailer, and maybe it's a very funny movie,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: but this I didn't I didn't laugh once. I didn't
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: even get close to laughing once watching it.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't laugh at the and okay, First of all,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I do care about your birthday. Do I need to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: return my show tickets?
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: No, No, it's fine. We're going to go see We're
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: going to go see Gutenberg the Musical on my birthday.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The next trailer also didn't make me laugh, but
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I actually think I might like this one. It's called
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Miss You Love You.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about a mom who's well, it's about a
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: woman who's I guess it's not. I'm not gonna say
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: it's about a mom that's that's really getting her in
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a one facet of what she has In the movie.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It's a woman whose husband dies and her strange son
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: sends his assistant to help her with the unal instead
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: of coming himself.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The man who dies was her son's stepfather, so
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: not his biological dad, but his stepfather. And I guess
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I get the feeling that the fact that she married
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: this man is part of the reason why they are
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: now is strange, probably not the entirety of it. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the assistant is played by Andrew Reynolds, who Broadway fans
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: will think of as Elder Price. I think from Book
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: of Mormon he was. He was in the original Broadway
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: cast of.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Book Mormon the main protagonist.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the one who sings. I believe he was
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: also in Gut and Break, the musical on Broadway, but yeah,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: he plays the assistant. This is a dramaedy. I would say,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: like heavier on the drama than the comedy. But the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: humor that's in this trailer appealed to me a lot,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Like it's very subtle and dry and kind of like
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: that kind of like Gallows humor, like the that people
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: have where they're just trying to cope, but you know
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it's still present. It's like a great defense mechanism for
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. And Alison Jenny, who plays the widow,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: she was I want to say she was in the
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: West Wing, like she was fantastic in that. If I
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: could be mixing up my actors, so Ariel, if you
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: want to fact check me and see if she was
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: on the West Wag, I could be wrong, but.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Alison Jenny was on the West Wing.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Excellent. Also, do you know who wrote and directed this
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: movie because it's It surprised me when I found out
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I do not know. Jim Rash, who is also known
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: as the Dean on Community. Oh wow, he wrote and
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: directed this movie.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Very interesting because.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: This doesn't come across like when you see his comedy,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Like I've seen him on Reno nine one one, and
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: of course i've seen him in community. You see his comedy,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: you know, he's a brilliant improviser. He's a brilliant comedian.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: His style typically is not it's subtle. It's very over
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: the top, but that's where the humor comes from. Whereas
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: you see this and you're like, wow, this is really
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: kind of well. It is subtle and dialed back, but
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: not in a way that feels dull to me. So
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I was really surprised when I learned about that.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am very interested in this movie. I will
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: admit that I do sometimes get Alison Jenny and Wennie
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Malick mixed up. They're both. I do it all the time, Like,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: but yes, Alison Jenny was in West Wing. The thing
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is they're both. And then there's Christine Baranski. There are
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: these like power women who were in sitcoms, you know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and and television shows early on that are now just
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: having this Like I guess they've always been in the eye,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: but like they're in the in the public eye and working,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: but like they're hitting this revival for me personally, and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I'm loving all of their work.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Where they're they're not just in something, they're anchoring something. Yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you know, this comes out on May twenty ninth on
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: HBO Max, so it's it's not going to theaters or anything.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'll probably check this out like it's it is a drama.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: It's not my typical go to, but just the trailer,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the performances were enough to draw me in, and the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: bits of humor that were in there appealed to me too, like.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it. Yeah me too, me too. So cool.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: So we can talk about our show notes now.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Right, No, No, we got to take a little detour
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: for stereo, so I don't.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Know if we have time. We've we've been talking so long.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: John, I'm sorry. We're gonna make time. That's right, my friends,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: We're all going to go and take a little journey
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: to John boyce Horror Hutch. There are no spiders inside
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: the Horror Hutch today. Okay, that's because they're all under
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: your skin crawling around.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: No.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Uh sorry, one of my one of my ones I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: going to talk about this involves that. So let's talk
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: about first of all, Luckily for you Ariel, it's only
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: one of the ones I'll be mentioning at the end.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: It's not one of the ones I'm featuring. Yes you did. Yeah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: not all the.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Ones that you're mentioning, but the three that have links.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, the three that have links you watched. So uh.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: The reason why I chose these particular three, Like you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: there's always a surplus of horror movie trailers, but I
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: try to limit it to three in the horror Hutch.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: The reason I chose these three is I thought these
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: were the most interesting, not necessarily the ones that appealed
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: to me the most, but that I felt we're doing
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: something different, yeah, or attempting to. I don't think they're
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: all successful in doing it. But the first one is
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: a trailer for a movie called Her Private Hell. This
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: is a film that was directed and co written by
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Nicholas winding Refin, whose name I'm sure I mispronounced. He's
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: also responsible for some other somewhat abstract movies Only God
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Forgives and The Neon Demon being too that I'm aware
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: of that that toy with thriller, suspense, horror. This is
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: also this movie is released by Neon, so the Neon
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Demon and now this being released by Neon. That's just
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: a coincidence. It's hard to give a premise to this
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: because Her Private Hell is purposefully abstract and dream like.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: But generally speaking, the narrative is an actress named Elle,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: who's played by Sophie Thatcher, who I know from Companion,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: is set to begin work on a film that's being
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: helmed by her father. There's another up and coming actress
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: who seems intent on wanting to replace Elle, and a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: third character or fourth if you account the father. Fourth
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: character who is Elle's former best friend who is now
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: her step mother, which obviously adds tension to this. Then
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: there's a character known as Private Ka, who is an
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: American soldier who's searching for his lost daughter. And you know,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: after I watched the trailer, I was like, this is
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: very visually interesting, but I don't know what's going on.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Did you get a similar feeling when you watched it?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I did, And then I read the log line and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: it The log line starts off with a mysterious myths
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: surrounds this town and ends with their searching hell for
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: their missing loved ones.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think all that is. I think all
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: of that is just meant to be like metaphorical, not
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: like they're literally doing this. I looked at reviews, because
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: this is already screened in the festival circuit. They the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: reviews have not been kind. I think that the Critical
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Tomatoes score now like for critics is like thirty eight percent.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm sad to hear that. It sounds to
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: me like this is just not resonating and that maybe
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: it is a huge mess. And it's possible that that
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: was intentional, but that doesn't mean it's entertaining, right, Like
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: you might succeed in what she set out to do,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: but if it doesn't resonate with an audience, then what
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: good is that? Anyway it comes out, it comes out
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: July twenty fourth, so maybe other people, maybe once it
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: gets a wider release, will find a way to connect
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: with it. But from the reviews I read, it sounds
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: like it's a little too unusual for unusual sake. Next up,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: we have a trailer for a film called Strung. Do
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: you want to take a stab at describing this?
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Sure? So there is.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: I think she's a cellist, a violinist who gets hired
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: by a rich family to tutor their daughter, their gifted daughter.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: There's a perfect, perfectly normal little child, nothing strange about her.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Right, here's the thing. No, she comes downstairs being like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: some creepy kind of shining like kid wearing this Miss
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Nelson is missing sort of a mask, which is a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: deep cut for anybody who's read that book back in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the day. It's like this creepy just this creepy mask
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: that's a little too big for her head. And she
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: says a bunch of creepy stuff to the protagonist of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: this because apparently her parents and her parents' friends are
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: unhinged and you into all kinds of weird stuff like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: which some overly powerful, overly uh rich people.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Are and like like super privileged.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like disconnected from reality and do things that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: are not okay, uh because of that disconnect, which is
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: not even giving like I'm not giving them an excuse, right,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it's not okay the stuff that they're doing in the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: trailer or alluding to. But this little girl, I think,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: ends up kind of being like a good guy because
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: she's warning the teacher about stuff.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks to me like this is this is
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: also you know, it's it's partly class warfare, right, like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the kind of makes me think of parasite in a way,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: although this is not someone who's conning their way into
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: a rich person's home. But also the mom comes across
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: as like a sociopath, like she could not care about
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: the well being of anyone. And uh, there's like obviously
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: like a sexual attraction between the tutor and one of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: the members of the family, or at least someone who's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: connected to the family, if not a direct member. And yeah,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: it's it looks like it's packing an awful lot in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: to the structure of a film, Like if this had
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: been a series, have surprised me, right, It feels more
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: like a series to me than a movie because it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: feels like it's packing way too many elements for it
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: to be a film. Kind of makes me think of
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: American horror story that way, where every episode I felt
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is like ten episodes worth of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: plot being shoved into a single hour. So I don't
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: know how I feel about this. I feel like it's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: hitting the message a little too hard. That's at least
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: from the trailer. That's what it looks like to me.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: So it kind of rubs me the wrong way because
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I can see it trying, right, it doesn't look effortless.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: It looks like they're trying real hard to tell this story.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Guess what date this comes out.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: On National Teachers Depreciation Day.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: It's my birthday, June twenty sixth, That's when this comes out. Okay,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: so strong, Like again, I appreciate what they're doing, but
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I just feel that the execution isn't all there. I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: know Tyler Perry, I think is one of the producers
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: on this too, by the way, Yeah, local connection.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the little girl the romy Woods plays the young
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: girl and she is adorable. Yeah, maybe you can't tell
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: that mask. Yeah, I looked her up. Maybe this is
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: just another incidence where it's a bad trailer for a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: good project.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Ye, here's here's hoping, like maybe we'll get a different
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: trailer later, Like we'll be talking about a final trailer
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: late in this episode that I don't think completely changes
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: the perspective of a or your perception of a movie,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: but it definitely stresses elements that were not stressed as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: hard in previous trailers. Right, So it gives you a
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: different feel.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Which is which is why I was like, I'm putting
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: this in here.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you did because I would. I specifically,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't even bother watching it until you suggested that
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: we included, and I was like, okay, but I I'll
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: watch it, and I'll watched I was like, whoa, this
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: is a very different, like not very different, but distinct
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: version of a trailer compared to the ones we got previously.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: But that's enough himing and hawing about that. Let's talk
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: about the third element in the Horror Hutch. That is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: a full trailer for Victorian Psycho. I think we talked
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: about a teaser for this ages ago. So the basic
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: premise is a woman is brought into an estate to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: serve as a governess, but she ain't quite right in
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the head. But that's okay. Neither is anybody else in
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: this story. As far as I can tell, everyone seems
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: like they're crazy. It Also, it also is odd because
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: this trailer is set against like a metal rock song,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: which really threw me for a loop to see like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: a Victorian era, you know, story playing out while this
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: metal rock is playing in the background. It was kind
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: of there's a weird juxtaposition, which I'm sure was obviously
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: a purposeful choice. There's in the trailer over the top
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: demonstrations of patriarchal abuse, very weird puppet shows. There's a
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: point where she's picking up someone's dismembered ear from underneath
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: a bed. I don't know if Van Goh came to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: visit her whatever, but the whole thing is based off
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: a novel by Virginia Faito, who also wrote the screenplay,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: so she adapted her own work. It's got Micah Monroe
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: in it. She was in it follows I loved her,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: and it follows didn't even recognize her in this. Jason
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Isaacs is in it as well as Ruth Wilson. And
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: from what I hear, this film is a tight ninety minutes.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: You are in and out in an hour and a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: half and it comes out September twenty fifth. Out of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the three, this is the one I'm most interested in seeing.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: It's also one that I know I'm going to see
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: by myself because my horror buddy friend of the show,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Shallee absolutely will not should not watch this because it's
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: got one of her big no nos like Ariel's Big
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: no Noe. The two of them are animal endangerment and cannibalism.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: For Shale, it's it's child endangerment, and so if that
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: bothers you, you should know that is definitely an element
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: in Victorian Psycho.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Of all the three trailers, the one
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that interested me the most was from the trailer was
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: her Private Hell. And I'm sad to hear that it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't because it kind of felt noirri.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: And like, yeah, it's it. I think it's I think
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: it's trying to emulate Jallo films from the seventies from Italy,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: which does have also a connection to noir. It is
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: kind of a neo noir approach where you use like
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: very lighting and you usually have like a murder involved,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and usually there's a character wearing black gloves. Like There's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: been a few movies that have been made with that
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: kind of approach in the last few decades, like the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: remake of Suspiria kind of had that. Oh there's another
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: one that's just escaping. It's like right on the edges
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: of my memory right now. But we've had a few
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: where I think it's a generation of filmmakers who have
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: been heavily influenced and inspired by previous generations and specifically
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: the Giallo directors of the seventies in Italy, and yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: there's definitely some of that influence in there too. Yeah,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm mostly interested in Victorian Psycho. I kind
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: of want to read the book. I hear that it's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: a fast read, so and also that it does like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: the book and the film do not follow the exact
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: same path. And since the same person wrote the book
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and adapted their own book into a screenplay, I don't
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: feel like that was a slight to the author in
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: this case, So I think that's interesting.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the Victorian Psycho is for me,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: but I'll be interested to hear your review on it.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let me talk very quickly about some
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: of the other ones that I looked at. These are
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: just quick mentions. I saw a trailer for Hope, which
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: is a South Korean sci fi action thriller monster movie,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: but there's animal endangerment, so I told Dariel not to
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: watch it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: It's interesting from the picture.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I watched a trailer for The Summoning, which is
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: similar to movies like Candy Man or legends like Bloody
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Mary or even Beetlejuice. You say the name of the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: entity enough times in this version it's thirteen and the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: entity will show up and kill you Graveyard Dead. And
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: then a trailer for Possessions, which is about a single
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: dad and his son who move into a place. The
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: son apparently gets trapped in like a story unit that
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: the guy is like he oversees these sword units. Kid
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: gets trapped in there. When he comes out, he comes
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: out wrong and he gets yourself a creepy kid movie
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: ginger addition, because the kid's a ginger and as we
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: all know, redheads are just inherently creepy. Ariel, you agree
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: with that, right, Yeah? Okay, Ariel the Redhead agreed. Okay.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: It's a fake, It's a defense mechanism.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's timatic display. I'm trying to tell potential predators
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: that I'm dangerous. Yes, and then finally, oh no, I've
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: got two more. Sorry, thirteen Souls. That's a demonic possession movie.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: It did nothing for me in the trailer. And then Burrow.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: This is the one I was referencing at the beginning
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: about the bugs under the skin. It's a horror film
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: with an alien insect thing that either burrows into human
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: hosts or it's all just a hallucinogenic nightmare brought on
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: by some bad magic mushrooms. I don't know what which
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: one it is doesn't really interest me either, but I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: thought I would mention all of them. So those trailers
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: are all out for you to check. If you're a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: horror fiend like I am, and you just need to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: know what's out there, go look at those. Now let's
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: go on to talk about things in our show notes.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first thing you're going to have to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: talk about, because I think you told me not to
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's The Fox. I did put this right after
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: the Horror Hutch specifically for that reason. The Fox is
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: a Australian fantasy dark fantasy comedy movie. Came out in
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five in Australia, but it's supposedly coming to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: theaters in the United States later this year. Doesn't have
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: a specific date. It is exceedingly vulgar. Okay, I cannot
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: stress enough to you how vulgar this trailer is. So
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: it is not for families. And you might think, oh,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: it involves involves talking animals. I should watch this with
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: my kids. Do not do that if you don't want
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: to traumatize yourself and your children. But Jy Courtney and
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Emily Browning star in this. The premise is a hunter
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: meets a talking fox, and the fox attempts to help
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the hunter deal with the issue of an unfaithful fiance.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: That is the hunter's fiance, not the fox's fiance. I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I none of this worked for me because it was
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: going into a realm of vulgarity and shock humor. That
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't work for me. Like, I've never resonated with that
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: kind of humor. It's just not my sense of humor.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not I don't
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: react to that in a positive way. So it is
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: not for me. But now we can talk about the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: stuff that we both watched.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the first thing is the full trailer for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: or I guess, the nude trailer for Lanterns, which shows
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: a bit more of the relationship between hal and John
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: and a bit more of the powers that you get
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: from the Ring, and also a little bit more humor,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: and I am super into it.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: It also had a lot more of the drama too,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: like it Yeah, Like you get a lot more of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: the fact they're investigating a crime, like a mysterious crime
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: that happens in Nebraska and it's funny because you talk
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: about it, it has a little bit more humor. I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: watched it and I thought, ooh, this looks like it's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: a little like way grittier than what I was expecting.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Not really what I was expecting. I mean, I had
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: heard it was going to be grittier. It doesn't look grim, right,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to put it that way. It's not
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: like it's going true detective dark, but it definitely looks
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: like it's less whimsical than some other comic book series
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: and movies have been.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And here's the thing is like, if you
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: would tell me that just on the street, I'd be like,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested. That was Zack Snyder's Justice League, and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't really care for it, right, Yeah, it was.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: It was kind of darker, it was kind of grimmer,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm not like and not just in the color palette.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: It just it lacked.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Heart, I guess, or humanity.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this doesn't though, Like there is drama and
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: there is intrigue, and it is a little gritty and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: it is a little dark, but there are moments of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: levity and uh, I think it looks I think it
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: looks like it's going to strike based on the trailer,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: a really good balance. And I also think it's going
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: to be a very different feel from the other James
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Gunn DC stuff we've gotten, and I'm excited for all
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think it makes it look like John
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: is really intent on being a heroic hero like he has.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: He has a very strong moral code and that hal
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Jordan and maybe one day had a similar code. But
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: like just life experience has kind of made him a
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: little more cynical and a little more jaded. And I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: think that's interesting too. Write like how Jordan clearly like
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: some rules, he just doesn't really he's not super concerned
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: about following, And meanwhile John is much more like, no,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: there's a code and you should be really faithful to
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: that code. So that to me is interesting. It comes
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: to HBO on August sixteenth. It's funny because it if
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I were to compare this to something not by tone,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I don't mean by tone or anything, I would compare
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: it to iron Man, the two thousand and eight iron Man,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, I would compare it to iron Man
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: because iron Man and Green Lantern both represent heroes that
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I wasn't really that interested in before those properties came out,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: like the adaptations came out. This trailer makes me interested
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: in Green Lantern when previously I've never really cared, Like
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: even when I was reading Justice League comics, I never
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: cared about Green Lantern.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we chatted about this a little bit offline.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I also wasn't a huge Green Land like. I never
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: really followed it, but I really did like the character
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: of John Stewart within like the Justice League American then
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: the Justice League Unlimited cartoons in any time they showed
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: up anywhere else. Despite sharing a name with my father,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: he is my favorite Green Lantern And uh yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: This is also the host of the Daily Show.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, listen, there's a lot of John Stewart's That's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a very common name. Uh but
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, he's my favorite Green Lantern. I'm very excited
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: for it. Also, Jason Ritter is in this, and I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: adore Jason Ritter. He is such a good actor and
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: very funny. I don't know if he'll be funny in this,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: but he's a very good actor. And Laura Linny as well.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that we don't know who she
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: is yet.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know that Sinestro is supposed to show
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: up in this series, and I'm almost disappointed in that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: because I feel like if that was kept like fairly
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: limited in scope for superheroes, so that could build to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: something for a following season, then that would probably appeal
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: to me most. But from everything I've seen so far,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: I suspect that the Sinestro, the way they handle that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: will be interesting and hopefully compelling.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm very excited. I was about to
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: say I'm very excited for Avatar season two, but I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: didn't finish Avatar season one. It looks good though the new.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Trailer it does look good. Yeah, I also have not
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: watched Avatar season one. My partner famously tried to get
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: me into Avatar, the animated series, but I fell off
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: before it could sink its hooks into me. Like, I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: get the feeling that if I had stuck with it,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: maybe it would have caught my imagination, but it just
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: never did. But she's a huge fan of the animated series,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: she has not watched the live action one either. She
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: got burned real bad by m Night Shyamalan on the
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: film adaptation. But yeah, this is the season is the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: one where Aang is seeking out an earth Bender to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: teach him the ways of earth bending in his continuing
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: quest to not get barbecued by the Fire Nation. And yeah,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: the trailer looks great, Like it looks. This one really
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: stresses again the drama and the action, not so much
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the comedy in this one. Like, there wasn't that many
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: comedic moments in the trailer. There are little bits, but
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: nothing like sometimes with an Avatar trailer, they really focus
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: on the humor side because there is a lot of
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: humor in that series, which is a good thing. Yeah,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: but this one really was focusing on like the drama
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: and the action. It comes to Netflix on June twenty fifth,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: the Jonathan Birthday Eve.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it brings in tough, which I know my niece
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: and nephews are like, if they mess her up, we're
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: burning this property to the ground.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: She's the earth Bender, right, Yeah.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: She's the blind earth Bender. She's really cool and she
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: gets the best character in the show to me. So next,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: we've got a trailer for something called Rich Flu, which
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: is a movie about a pandemic that only hits rich people.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a movie that actually came out in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, but it hasn't been released in beyond
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: like Spain. So it's an English language film that was
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: shot and directed and everything in Spain. So it's a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Spanish English language movie with Mary Elizabeth Winston playing a
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: character named Laura. And yeah, like like Ariel said, the premises,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: this mysterious pandemic breaks out and it affects rich people,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: and the richer you are, the faster it targets you.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: And first it starts taking out billionaires and then it
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: works its way down to millionaires, and people are just
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: desperate to try and get rich, Like billionaires are desperate
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: to get rid of their money in order to not
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: be susceptible to this pandemic. So it's kind of like,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: you know, the rich suddenly their wealth is suddenly a detriment.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: It's a vulnerability, which is an odd premise, kind of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: fairy tale ish in a way. I will say. Reviews
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: have been mixed. Some people say that the first half
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: is great and that it kind of fails to stick
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: the landing in a satisfying way based upon the things
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I've seen. It comes out May twenty ninth, So what
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: did you think of the trail. I mean again, this
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: was again pretty heavy handed on the message.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it looked interesting. Again heavy handed, which
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: might make it less and enjoyable, because again I know audiences,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: not all audiences. A lot of people like to be
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: able to come to a conclusion on their own and
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: take that journey and not be told what their journey
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: is in a movie.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yea spoon fed.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do like it that it's a slightly
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: more original concept. So you know, I was more interested
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: in it before you said I had mixed reviews. But
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, like some people really liked it. Like I said,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: it's mixed, it's it's not like that. It's not like
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: the the you know, her own hell or her private hell,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: where that was largely negative. This is a mix, so
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: we'll see. Next up, we have something that I think
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Aeriel and I probably both have very strong feelings about,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: which is a trailer for hell Grind, which is I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: thought I thought it was only partly generative AI, but
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: it sounds like the whole ding dang darn thing was
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: generative AI created. It's a ninety five minute AI generated
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: feature using the c Dance two point zero AI model
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: from Byte Dance, the Chinese company, and supposedly it took
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: a team of fifteen people two weeks with a budget
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: of half a million dollars to make, and it's it's
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: like a sci fi heist kind of thing. It almost
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the movie's about, because really what it's
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: about is a commercial for generative AI. It's not really
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: like the actual film doesn't seem to matter nearly as
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: much as the way it was made. What did you
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: think about this?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: You say in your notes that it used real actors?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Is that not? I thought it. I thought it did,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: but according to other things I read up on, it
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: did not.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could definitely tell in some spots I don't
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: like this. I didn't like it. I only skimmed through
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: the trailer because like the bits where they weren't human,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: the bits where they were a human gave me slightly
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: uncanny valley at some points as I was scrubbing through,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: and then other parts where they weren't humans, I was like, Yeah,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: this looks like bad CGI. This looks like a low
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: budget CGI to me. And it just you can use
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: AI responsive semi semi responsibly as a tool, but it
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be the creative force behind something.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: So it just inherents me, I am because it's not creative.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, Like, So higgs Field has been
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: kind of experimenting with this for a while, and originally
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: they were sort of releasing a hell Grind series and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: the first episode is up where you can, I think
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: it's on their site and you can watch it. So
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I decided, you know what, I watched the trailer and
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: I was not impressed, did not like it, but I'll watch.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I'm very curious, So I'm going to watch the first
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: episode of this series. I got about ten minutes in
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: and then I bailed. And the reason I bailed is
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: because it was nonsensical to me how it was structured.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Like it opens with narration from the main character that
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: introduces you to this four person heist crew, these four
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: thieves who you know pull off heists mostly for like
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: jewelry and precious metals and that kind of thing. And then,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: after the quick introduction, which really gives you, like the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: bare bones characterization of each character, they are breaking into
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: a place and stealing things. Then it suddenly cuts where
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: they're talking about what you just saw them doing. So
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: it's like you've just flashed back in time to before
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: the heist where they're talking about how they're going to heist.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Then it goes back into the heist, then it comes
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: back to before the heist where they're having conversations again.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: So it's like jumping back and forth in time between
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: them talking about the thing and them doing the thing.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: But there's not enough connection where you feel like that's
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: like intentional, like it has purpose. There was even a
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: point where one of the characters says, like a snappy comeback,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: except that it's not attached to anything that just happened,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: Like it's not a comeback to anything. It's it's structured
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: like a comeback, but it's not a response to anything
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: that was just said or done. And so it's stuff
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: like that which AI often does, where it's aping the structure.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: You know what it makes me think of, Ariel? You
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: should know this because you worked with kids a lot, right,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: you know how You know how when kids learn how
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: a joke is structured, and then they will try to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: tell you a joke, but there's no connection between their
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: setup and their punchline. Yeah, yeah, that's what this made
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: me think of.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or I've seen some AI jokes. Every once in
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: a while one will land, but it's accidental, right, It's.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen a lot that have been attributed to AI,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: but it turns out they weren't really Like someone else
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: wrote something and then said this is from AI. And
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: that's why it's funny, because like they're purposefully introducing these
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: weird you know, non sequiturs or absurdities or whatever that
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: turns out that it wasn't actually AI. Like, so even
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: the funny versions are often funny not because they were
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: made by AI, but because they were made by a
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: human being claiming it was made by AI.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm currently hearing a bunch of stuff back
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: and forth on the sag side of AI actors being
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: allowed versus not allowed, versus protection of image versus if
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: you've been in a movie or TV show that studio
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: owns your image already and can do whatever they want
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: with it. So it's I have a bunch of mixed
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: feelings that I'm trying to suss through right now, and
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just i'd rather know.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well this is called hell grind. If you
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: want to look at the trailer or even try and
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: find that first episode, just to satisfy your own curiosity.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I will say I was not impressed. I would like, yeah,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: am I impressed that they were able to turn out
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: a feature length film in two weeks for under a
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: million dollars. That's impressive, undeniably, But it doesn't mean that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: the result is good. That's the other thing is that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: every news item I could find relating to this thing
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: was all about the technical side, not about was it
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: actually worth watching? Like, forget forget the technical amazing thing
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: that happened. Was it worth watching the movie? No? Article said?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, then what are we even doing?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: It's like if I went outside and found just a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: random person, like, hey, tell me about the last weird
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: dream you remember having, and then I make a movie
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: about That doesn't mean that movie is going to be
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: entertaining to anyone.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I do find entertaining?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Though, what's that?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: British media?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: So you're going to talk a little bit about a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: documentary coming out called The Archivist.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this guy that Sorry, I had to move
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: off of AI. I'm getting indigestion from it.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: No, I would much prefer to talk about this because
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: it's wholesome and weird.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's this guy who just has this giant
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: repository of history and videos and media from England's history,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and he's getting older and so now he needs to
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: find a place to put it. And there's a documentary
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: about it. Is that correct? That's what I got from it.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his name is Doc Rowe. He's a folklorist, so
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: he's a a university lecturer who specializes in folklore and
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: folklore preservation. So he's spent decades of his life going
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: to different events, capturing things like folk music and folk
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: traditions and celebrations all across the British Isles. And throughout
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: this process he has just amassed this enormous amount of
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: information in the form of pictures and films and video
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: and recordings, and as Ariel mentioned, he's getting on in life.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: So now there's a concern that unless there's effort made
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: to digitize all this stuff, that it could effectively be lost.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: And in every place I think values tradition to some extent,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: right and England definitely that's a thing. So the documentary
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: looks delightful. I GE's celebrating in the weird traditions that
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: happened in something, you know, things like the cheese wheel
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: races and stuff like that, or the various sports that
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: mostly involve hold on to this thing for as long
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: as you can while everybody else tries to beat the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: living crap out of you to get hold of that thing. Yeah,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: we eventually made this into rugby, but for right now,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: it's just kill the man who's holding the stick.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Which is delightful and I'm glad that they're trying to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: do that. The BBC hasn't always been we know, in
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: England because of the BBC, they haven't always been the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: best at maintaining.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, Like Eric Idol has said in interviews
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: that the only reason we still have the Monty Python
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: series to watch today is because he insisted on owning
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: the tapes because the BBC regularly would tape over stuff
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: that they had previously take because back then there was
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: no thought of this lives on b on broadcast, right.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: The thought was you broadcast it, then you move on
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: and it becomes lost media. So we've talked about it
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: before where their entire seasons or entire like stretches of
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Doctor Who seasons that as far as we know, are
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: just gone every now and then what like a tape
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: gets unearthed, but there's still big gaps in those early,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: early early years.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so this is cool, and I know it's
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: not all just media, but I'm glad that somebody has
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: done it. I'm glad that somebody is taking note to
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: make sure that it lives on.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's exceedingly humble in this documentary, like he
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: he dismisses the concept of being an archivist himself, even
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: though everyone else is like, but you have a massive
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: archive of of relevant cultural information, what else would you
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: call it? Comes. So this is going to premiere at
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: the Sheffield doc Fest in June, and hopefully it will
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: get wider distribution after that. I say hopefully because I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: saw this trailer and I was captivated and I would
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: love to learn more about him and his work.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a lot for me to get really into,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Like I want to see this documentary for sure, and
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: this is I want to see for sure. So now
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: we're onto our last two things, which I don't think
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: we're going to spend a whole lot of time on either,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: but one you alluded to earlier in our show notes,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: which is the final he Man trailer.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is the one where I said the I mean, honestly,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: this could also apply, I think to Lanterns, But this
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: is really the one I met when I said, it's
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: a trailer that gives a different perspective on the film.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: In this case, the focus is largely on the action
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: and the struggle and the battles in the film, and
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: there's still some humor, particularly toward the second half of
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: the trailer. There's more humor in it, but for a
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: good stretch of this trailer, it's really more like fantasy
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: action as opposed to, Oh, there's some quirky humor stuff.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Once you get to the point where there's like the
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: role call of heroes, then it gets wacky because they're
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: all action figure heroes, which is.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: What stuck out most to me. So I was like, Oh,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: this is a more comedic view of the he Man movie.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I'm still for it. I actually, honestly, I felt that
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: way about the last Spider Noir trailer as well, which
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: we didn't include in our lineups but did come out.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: He had a lot of the same stuff, but I
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  Speaker 1: also felt like that focused a lot more on the
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  Speaker 1: humor and kind of give a different tone to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this first half, like I said, like I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's totally fantasy action. Like the humor has really been
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  Speaker 2: dialed down in this trailer until you get to that
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  Speaker 2: second half where you get like Mecha Neck and ram
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  Speaker 2: Man and stuff like these these characters who are absurd
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  Speaker 2: because I mean they're based off the stuff action figures.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: The cartoon existed solely to serve as a commercial to
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  Speaker 2: sell Action figures, so it's hard to create, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like like serious compelling characters that were really just supposed
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: to be toys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But but before that, it's like, oh, you know, he
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: man doing like superhero level stuff and engaging in battles
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: against skeletor things like that, and then it goes zany
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: toward the end. It comes out June fifth. I don't
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: really have anything more to say about it. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably go see this because it looks like it's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be a fun summer movie. I don't think it's
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: gonna be super deep or anything, but it might look
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: it looks like it's gonna be entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: It does look like it's gonna be entertaining. It's gotten
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: amazing cast I can't believe Fisto's in it, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are a lot of characters
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  Speaker 2: where like when you have to say the name out loud.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, but I think it looks fun. This trailer
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: was also interesting because it started with forty years ago
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: he saved his kingdom, and I'm like, this kid is
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: not forty but they were talking about the proper couture
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: was also yeah, which was also weird to like reference,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: like to break that fourth wall in the trailer yea.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah. It actually starts off with a
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: little bit from the cartoons, like just the transformation of
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Adam and to he man in the cartoon. And then
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: finally we got a first look teaser for Vaught Rising.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: This is the prequel to the Boys series. So the
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Boys concluded gen v is not coming back for a
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: season three. So where else could Amazon go to mind
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: this ip that has been so profitable for them? Why
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: that is in the past in the nineteen fifties, when
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: these superpowered beings start to really become total pieces of
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: crap and this giant corporation starts to become ever present
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: and omni powerful. Doesn't that sound like fun?
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Not, And I also did not find the trailer fun.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like you, I feel like the story that they
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: presented for The Boys already tells that story.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't really need to know how Vought became
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: so powerful. You figure, like, Okay, well, they cracked the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: code on how to create a formula that turns people
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: into superpowered beings, and then you know, for the longest
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: time they guarded that so that the public wasn't aware
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: that it was manufactured. They just thought superpowered people were
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: being born, right, They didn't know that these were genetically
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: modified people. But I agree with you, I think that's
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: all you need to know that And just like the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: information you get from Soldier Boy and a little bit
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: of flashbacks and season three, I think it was that's
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: really all you needed. So I don't I don't have
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: any interest in seeing this honestly, Like, if they are
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: able to tell a story without engaging in the ridiculous,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: over the top, gross out stuff that started to really
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: become the hallmark of The Boys moving into season three
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: and beyond, Like it was certainly there in seasons one
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: and two, but it just became undeniably gratuitous as the
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: series continued. If they're able to kind of dial that
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: back a little bit, maybe I'd be interested. But I
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: worry that it's just gonna be the same thing where
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, let's throw in a joke where this
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: person is using their superpowers to do something unthinkably abhorrent.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which the trailer gave me that feel very
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: much like that. They haven't dialed it back at all.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: So one of the characters is like, you know, a Nazi,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's coming back. Not a whole lot
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: of redemption for that particular character. Yeah. Uh, I'm not
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: pleased by this. It should premiere sometime next year. They
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: don't have like an actual launch date that I've heard
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: seen yet, So if you are someone who's just craving
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: more stuff from that that franchise than you know, you've
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: got about a year to wait. But I don't know,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: like none of this really I'm concerned that this last
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: season of the Boys will take a lot of steam
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: out of the engine. However, that being said, Game of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: Thrones famously did not please its fans with its final
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: couple of seasons, but the Game of Thrones spinoffs are
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: still doing pretty well, so maybe this can survive on
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: its own merit, even with people kind of being less
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: than blown away by The Boys finale.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: But Night of the Well, I guess House of the
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Dragon is still going strong. Though I haven't watched it,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: I do feel like Night of the Seven Kingdoms is
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: a different tone.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: It's definitely a different tone and like and if VOT
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: Rising ends up being a different tone where maybe it
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: does dial back on the like because a lot of
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: that gross stuff was supposed to be played for laughs.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: I just never found it funny. Yeah, I found it
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: more horrifying that other people would find it funny, Like
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: that's that was disturbing to me. So if it dials
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: that back, maybe I could deal with it. Was If
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: I'm being honest, the big reason why I didn't watch
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: season five is because I felt Season four indulged way
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: too much ingratuitous, gross out stuff in an attempt to
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: be edgy and funny, and I just found it upsetting
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: to think that there are folks who do think that's
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: what a joke is.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that if you have to well
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: I know it's the mo of the Boys. If you
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: have to resort to that to be funny, then you're
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: not a funny person. But I understand like that is
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: the whole point of The Boys is to try to
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: shock you worse and worse and worse and worse. But
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: let's not focus on that anymore and focus on the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: fact that we're going into a hopefully for most people,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: long weekend. Yeah, to enjoy in whatever geeky stuff we want.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll go see Mortal Kombat and grow gua Mandalorian
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: and watch the Burrows that dropped last night and just
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: have a full fun geek fest.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Follow it up with zombie Land two.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Zombie Land too, and then next week I'll get the
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: seasons season two and Spider Noir so and then after that.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: E man, it's if The Boys is not your thing.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: There is so much good media hopefully coming out, so
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: much anticipatedly good media.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: You can't vouch for it yet, can't guarantee it. We
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks good so far. Yeah, and I am
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: excited for me too, all the good stuff. So, Jonathan,
• 1:40:14
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• 1:40:16
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• 1:40:18
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• 1:40:19
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• 1:40:21
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• 1:40:26
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• 1:40:30
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• 1:40:34
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• 1:40:37
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• 1:40:41
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• 1:40:46
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