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Chuck & Buck 6-22 Hour 3: Everett Fitzhugh, ABC's of the Mariners and we got the right one. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Eight o'clock hour here on this Monday morning. Hope you
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Speaker 1: speaking of travel using a sentence, I wonder if ever
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Speaker 1: it fits you as has had a moment to get
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Speaker 1: in some travel here in this offseason, joining us now
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Speaker 1: talk about all the cracking news. Is the voice of
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Speaker 1: your Seattle crack and evert fits you?
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Speaker 2: Hello, sir, I currently am actually at Seabrook, Washington right now.
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Speaker 1: Sebrook.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We we came here last year with our family,
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Speaker 2: and this year we added a couple of in laws,
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Speaker 2: a couple of partners, and this has now become a
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Speaker 2: yearly uh yearly family trip. So we're actually wrapping up
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Speaker 2: getting ready to come back home today.
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Speaker 1: Is it okay? So I've not been. I mean to me,
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Speaker 1: it kind of feels like the Truman Show. Is it
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Speaker 1: just a bunch of actors there and then you show
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Speaker 1: up and then you visit you're a real person, and
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Speaker 1: then everyone around you is just uh cast had been
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Speaker 1: casted for your weekend? Is that how it works?
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Speaker 2: You know what? It feels that way? And I took
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Speaker 2: a town tour. I'm not even kidding. I took a
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Speaker 2: town tour the other day and I met the CEO,
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Speaker 2: this guy that started this town, and he actually invented
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Speaker 2: this town in the in the mind of what we
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Speaker 2: all grew up with, right riding our bikes in the
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Speaker 2: streets and everyone playing with each other and all the
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Speaker 2: houses having a communal space. I mean, it does feel
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Speaker 2: like Pleasantville. You're here, you come up one on I
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Speaker 2: think it's one o nine, You come around the curve
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Speaker 2: and it just like I'm waiting for the harps and
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Speaker 2: the pianos to start playing, because it is. It is
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Speaker 2: a really magical place. It's it's it's awesome. We we
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Speaker 2: came here last year we fell in love with it.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a Truman show. Everyone's so kind and friendly.
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Speaker 2: You're sitting on your front porch and hey, how's it going,
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Speaker 2: like hey, Barb like hi, you know it feels like that,
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Speaker 2: so it really does. I've made a couple of friends
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Speaker 2: already in my life's like, of course you did well.
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Speaker 1: He goes great in the pool and oh.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Dave. He lives over in the pole's Bow.
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Speaker 2: He's got an office downtown. His wife work a dub
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Speaker 2: medical so she comes in a couple times a week. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: she's a really nice guy.
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Speaker 1: Were you made to feel like the world's greatest father?
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Speaker 1: Because you know, if I'm honest, I think top two,
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Speaker 1: top three. But I think that's a little exaggerative that
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Speaker 1: you would be rated number one in the entire world
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Speaker 1: as father. That seems like an aggressive approach. And yet
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Speaker 1: did you feel that way yesterday?
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Speaker 2: I say, I'd say top ten dad for sure in
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Speaker 2: the world. If you were to rank all the dads,
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Speaker 2: I'm probably top ten. No, honestly, yesterday was my perfect
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Speaker 2: father's day. Everyone listening is gonna laugh at me. But
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Speaker 2: my son and I flew a kite. Both of our
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Speaker 2: very first kites. I've never flown a kite before, thirty
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Speaker 2: seven years old, and I flew my first kite yesterday.
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Speaker 2: So went to the beach, flew a kite, had a fire, made,
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Speaker 2: some smores, grilled some steaks, went to the pool. It
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Speaker 2: was it was actually a very mellow, chill, but awesome
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Speaker 2: Father's Day. Yes, I felt all the love from all
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Speaker 2: the family. It was great. It was really good.
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Speaker 1: A kite has to be the most obsolete toy in
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Speaker 1: the entire world, and yet still there is something kind
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Speaker 1: of magical about flying a kite. Not even kind of
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Speaker 1: there's something magical about flying a kite.
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Speaker 2: Well, I let all the string out and even I
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Speaker 2: was like, babe, babe, look how high it is. Look no,
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Speaker 2: it's so high. Like I was so excited that I
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Speaker 2: flew my first kite. I don't know the four year
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Speaker 2: old or the thirty seven year old, I don't know
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Speaker 2: who was happier. My brother in law was like, I'm
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Speaker 2: so happy that we got ever the kite because it
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Speaker 2: was for him, it was for my son, and then
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Speaker 2: it ended up being for me. It was great.
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Speaker 1: Ye I hope, yeah, I hope. Six c Brook actors
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Speaker 1: didn't shoot it down with a drone. So I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you had some kite time there with your son.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he's coming home. Oh yeah, the kite's coming home.
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Speaker 1: Evert fits your voice at the Cracking with us righty
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Speaker 1: here on chucking Buck. And then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: in the middle of your pleasant father's day, flying your kit,
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Speaker 1: your phone starts blowing up, and the Kracking are making
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Speaker 1: moves of all days for them to start this off
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Speaker 1: season we've been hearing about. So let's start with the
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Speaker 1: first trade. What was your reaction to acquiring Macky Samuskevitch
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Speaker 1: from the Florida Panthers.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think that trade actually is a very
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Speaker 2: good trade for Seattle because you really don't give up
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Speaker 2: a whole lot. I would say this is a medium
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Speaker 2: risk but a potentially higher reward trade. You're giving up
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Speaker 2: the twenty fifth overall pick to Florida, which Florida ended
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Speaker 2: up shipping out for Brady Kachuk yesterday. But I think,
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Speaker 2: you know, unlike the NFL Draft, that twenty fifth pick,
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Speaker 2: they're not coming in here next season looking to have
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Speaker 2: an immediate impact. That twenty fifth overall pick. You're still
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Speaker 2: three years away, two years away from having any type
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Speaker 2: of potential meaningful contributions from that player, and of course
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Speaker 2: the second round pick for next year as well. Back
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Speaker 2: to throw in, and you're getting back a twenty three
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Speaker 2: year old player who's got NHL experience, back to back
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Speaker 2: thirty point seasons, seventy seven seventy six games each of
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Speaker 2: the last two years, been a tremendous upside at twenty
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Speaker 2: three years old. So when we talk a lot about
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Speaker 2: wanting the kids to play here in Seattle, wanting those
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Speaker 2: prospects to play, you also need to add in younger
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Speaker 2: NHL caliber talent to help as well. So there is
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Speaker 2: a lot to be positive about sam Uskevitch, and he
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Speaker 2: was just a victim of opportunity, not enough opportunity. In Florida,
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Speaker 2: you're the back to back Stanley Cup champions, You've made
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Speaker 2: the playoffs four or five years in a row, and
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Speaker 2: his role was diminished just because of everyone he was
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Speaker 2: playing behind. Now he gets to come to Seattle, he's
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Speaker 2: going to be in a top six position, So you're
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Speaker 2: going to see him getting you know, a lot of minutes,
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Speaker 2: a lot of ships. He's going to get some power
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Speaker 2: play time. He's going to be put out in those
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Speaker 2: those situations. So for me, this trade is exactly what
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Speaker 2: the Seattle Kraken needed. They got younger, they got NHL experience,
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Speaker 2: and they got a player who's got tremendous upside and
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Speaker 2: has the potential I think to be a twenty five
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Speaker 2: goal fifty sixty point player consistently in this league.
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Speaker 1: His name rung a bell certainly with me when when
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Speaker 1: we heard it, but I wouldn't say that anything particularly
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Speaker 1: stood out about Samus Skevitch when I watched Crack and
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Speaker 1: Panther games. However, few there've been the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: As someone that obviously is isolating and evaluating every single
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Speaker 1: play of the entire season. Did anything from your recollection
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Speaker 1: leap out to you about Sama Skevitch's game.
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Speaker 2: Well, I've actually followed him. I remember him when he
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Speaker 2: was playing junior hockey in the USHL. He then went
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Speaker 2: to Michigan, was on a team with Matty Veneers in
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Speaker 2: ann Arbor. So he is a player that he likes
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Speaker 2: to shoot the puck a lot like Bobby McMahon. He's
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Speaker 2: got that shot first mentality. But like I said before,
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Speaker 2: he wasn't put in a lot of situations to showcase
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Speaker 2: that ability because of all the folks he was playing
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Speaker 2: behind in Florida. So now he comes here, he immediately
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Speaker 2: gets slotted into your top six forward group. He's going
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Speaker 2: to be playing some big minutes and you're going to
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Speaker 2: see that first that first hand. He loves to shoot
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Speaker 2: the puck. He wants to shoot the puck. He's got
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Speaker 2: some speed, he's got some creativity as well. And the
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Speaker 2: second I saw that email come through, I go back
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Speaker 2: to a couple of conversations that we had with Lane
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Speaker 2: Lambert last season and he goes, I've been telling these
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Speaker 2: guys just I want them to shoot the puck more.
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Speaker 2: I want them to shoot the puck more. Well, Bobby
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Speaker 2: McMahon comes in, he gets ten goals for assists and
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Speaker 2: eighteen games with the Kraken. He has a shot first mentality.
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Speaker 2: Now mackiew samuskags on that right side has a shot
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Speaker 2: first mentality. And like I said, he only had twelve
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Speaker 2: and thirteen goals each of the last two seasons, but
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Speaker 2: now you put him in a top six role. I
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Speaker 2: don't see why he couldn't get twenty goals this year,
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Speaker 2: twenty five goals this year because of the situations he's
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Speaker 2: going to be put in and because of the way
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Speaker 2: he likes to play.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, both of those things struck me when I saw
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Speaker 1: those conversations that we had with you during the season.
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Speaker 1: Lambert frustrated that we're not aggressive enough putting the puck
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Speaker 1: near the net. Sometimes you just got to get the
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Speaker 1: puck near the net. Yeah, it could Eskate could hit
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Speaker 1: a body, and so I thought of that yesterday. Everitt Fitz,
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Speaker 1: he's with us talking about the cracking big moves yesterday,
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Speaker 1: And of course the even bigger move in my estimation,
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Speaker 1: was keeping the aforementioned Bobby McMahon, who did score ten
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Speaker 1: goals in eighteen games and does return. I'm a little
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Speaker 1: surprised that they got this done. It does speak though,
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Speaker 1: to obviously Bobby McMahon, even though he wasn't playing playoff
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Speaker 1: hockey down the stretch, he obviously enjoyed his time with
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Speaker 1: the organization last year, and I think that says a
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Speaker 1: lot about the organization.
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Speaker 2: It does, It really does. He genuinely likes playing here
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Speaker 2: in Seattle. His girlfriend also loves it here. My wife
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Speaker 2: and I actually were out got a coffee and ran
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Speaker 2: into both he and her at a coffee shop. And
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Speaker 2: she was saying how much she loves Seattle, how much
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Speaker 2: she loves the environment here, and the other wives and girlfriends,
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Speaker 2: and the teammates and the organization. So that rings a lot.
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Speaker 2: That does say a lot about the organization. And also
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Speaker 2: I think for Bobby, going from the media pressure cooker
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Speaker 2: that is Toronto to coming here to Seattle, the pressures
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Speaker 2: off a little bit from a media perspective. He's from
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Speaker 2: Western Canada, so the geography is a little similar to
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Speaker 2: what he's used to. He's a little closer to home.
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Speaker 2: So all of those things factored in. But now you
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Speaker 2: have a piece for the next six years that you
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Speaker 2: can build around, you can start adding to. And I
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Speaker 2: think guys like Bobby McMahon who came in here had
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Speaker 2: an immediate impact. And even though the team wasn't that
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Speaker 2: good on the ice in the last twenty games of
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Speaker 2: the season, you did have a guy who showed you
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Speaker 2: his potential and showed you what this team potentially could
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Speaker 2: be with him. So I thought that was great. I
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Speaker 2: think they got him in a really good number at
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Speaker 2: six years five, seven five. I mean, Mike Benton and
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Speaker 2: Al and I we were talking quite a bit, you know,
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Speaker 2: how much do you pay him as much as he
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Speaker 2: wants because you know, the free agency class this summer
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Speaker 2: is not very good. I mean, he definitely was the
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Speaker 2: top of the free agency class. There were no superstar
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Speaker 2: McDavid's or or you know whatever you have out there.
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Speaker 2: So Bobby McMahon was the top end of that fregency
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Speaker 2: class and he showed why those last eighteen games. So
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Speaker 2: the krack and were able to keep a player that
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Speaker 2: they like, that likes being here, and now you can
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Speaker 2: build around them.
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Speaker 1: Well, realistically, I mean you mentioned it. Ten goals in
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Speaker 1: eighteen games. I mean that puts you on a pace
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Speaker 1: to be a forty five goal per season scorer. And
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Speaker 1: there were only five guys I think in the league
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Speaker 1: last year that scored forty five goals or more. So
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Speaker 1: that seems like that's a little out of reach. But
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Speaker 1: where is the expectation for McMahon in this offense? What
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Speaker 1: is the high end that he's capable of.
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Speaker 2: Well, between Toronto and Seattle last year he had twenty
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Speaker 2: nine goals. I mean he probably could have had a
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Speaker 2: few more with Seattle. So I mean I would say,
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're talking about a guy that's still
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Speaker 2: trying to you know, he's got some upside left. He's
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Speaker 2: only thirty years old, so he's not on the back
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Speaker 2: nine of his career yet. I would say thirty to
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Speaker 2: thirty five goals. I mean that that I think is
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Speaker 2: a very realistic expectation. He had twenty nine last year,
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Speaker 2: so six more goals in this offense. Very much like
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Speaker 2: Maki Samuskevitch, he's going to be able to He's going
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Speaker 2: to be in that top six role. He's going to
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Speaker 2: be given a lot of minutes, a lot of opportunity,
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Speaker 2: a lot of situations to generate and create offense. In Toronto,
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Speaker 2: he's behind Kneelander, and he's behind Matthews and Nice and Tabaris,
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Speaker 2: and he's you know, intermittently in your top six, intermittently
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Speaker 2: on that second line. Well here, he's going to be
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Speaker 2: penciled in minimally on your second line, but probably your
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Speaker 2: top line every single night. So he's going to get
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to generate a ton of offense. So I
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Speaker 2: don't think that thirty five goals is a bridge too
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Speaker 2: far for him. I think that is where he can be.
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, another thirty assist, he can be
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Speaker 2: a thirty thirty guy sixties five to seventy points on
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Speaker 2: consistent basis. I don't think that that is out of
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Speaker 2: the realm of possibility for him.
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Speaker 1: All right, what else is going to happen this offset?
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Speaker 1: What are what are you hearing? What can you reveal?
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you there's some things you're hearing that
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Speaker 1: you can't reveal. But what can you reveal to us
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Speaker 1: this morning? I mean, we've been prepared for a really
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Speaker 1: aggressive off season, and it was certainly a very aggressive Sunday.
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Speaker 1: So are you anticipating a major shakeup here? A couple
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Speaker 1: of other minor moves? What is your expectation going forward?
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Speaker 2: You know, I think major. It's kind of relative. When
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Speaker 2: when you talk about the type of moves that need
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Speaker 2: to be made, You're never going to stop talking about
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Speaker 2: getting a prolific score until that happens. You're never going
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Speaker 2: to stop talking about it, and and and that's and
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Speaker 2: that's all fair depending on which national talking head that
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Speaker 2: you listen to around the NHL, the seventh overall pick
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Speaker 2: in this Friday's first round is still very much in
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Speaker 2: play in terms of being traded, So there's a chip.
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Speaker 2: There are a few teams out there that don't have
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Speaker 2: a top ten pick, who don't have a top fifteen
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Speaker 2: pick that would like to trade into that area, so
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Speaker 2: the Kraken could be, you know, potential suitors there. I
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Speaker 2: think Seattle's done a really good job of building up
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Speaker 2: their farm system and their prospect pool. The one area
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Speaker 2: where the Kraken lack in that department, though, was on defense.
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Speaker 2: And there are a couple of pretty good, strong defensemen
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Speaker 2: who you know, you take them with the seventh overall
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Speaker 2: pick and then you could see them here in Seattle
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Speaker 2: in the next couple of years. But there isn't a
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Speaker 2: lot of super high end talent this year outside of
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Speaker 2: that top three, top five in the NHL drafts. So
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Speaker 2: that's why folks are saying, maybe Seattle trade that seventh
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Speaker 2: overall pick for a player that can help help you today.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that there's going to be
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Speaker 2: another major move, a jaw dropping move, if you will,
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Speaker 2: outside of potentially trading that seventh overall pick. But I
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Speaker 2: do think we're gonna maybe see a couple of more
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Speaker 2: moves like the Samuskevitch move. Another younger player a ton
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Speaker 2: of potential NHL experience has had some success and is
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Speaker 2: looking for that fresh start, that next opportunity to show
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Speaker 2: what he can do. With the Kraken free agency players
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Speaker 2: that they're going to have to have conversations with Jamie Alexiak,
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Speaker 2: Ellie Tolbinan, James Schwartz, all three of them need new contracts.
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't look like, you know, they're They're gonna
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Speaker 2: get to free agency on July first, and we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens after that. A couple of players on the team.
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Speaker 2: I heard Jared McCann Vince Dunn's name come up externally
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Speaker 2: about potential trade candidates. So there are definitely moves this
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Speaker 2: team can make, all in an effort to get better.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this team has been kind of middling in
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years and you're trying to establish
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Speaker 2: that direction. So I do think there's going to be
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Speaker 2: some of those moves made. But I don't know if
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Speaker 2: that massive major move is on the horizon for this team,
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Speaker 2: outside of maybe trading that seventh overall pick for someone
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Speaker 2: in the league that can help you. Today, you got to.
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Speaker 1: Have a name though, at the top of your wish list.
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Speaker 1: You're walking around seed Brook, you know, wave into all
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Speaker 1: those actors, making you feel like the best dad in
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Speaker 1: the world. And the whole time you're sitting there walking along,
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Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, Houston Matthews, Man, Austin Matthews, how
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Speaker 1: could we get hostin somebody. Somebody's got to come to
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Speaker 1: your mind to just get me a little insight. What
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Speaker 1: has effort fits you? What's on your wish well?
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Speaker 2: I mean, going back to the last trade deadline in March,
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Speaker 2: the names that kept getting thrown around, Matthew Kny's in Toronto,
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Speaker 2: Robert Thomas in Saint Louis. A lot of those players
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Speaker 2: have no move clauses. We saw the cap of the
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Speaker 2: Ottawa Senators, Brady Kuchuck traded to Florida to play with
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Speaker 2: his brother, Matthew con truck. Dylan Markin has asked for
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Speaker 2: a trade out of Detroit. I would have called you
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Speaker 2: crazy if if two months ago we were sitting here
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Speaker 2: talking about Brady Kuchuck leaving, the captain of the Senators leaving.
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Speaker 2: Uh Dylan Larkin, home grown from Detroit, went to Michigan
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Speaker 2: plays for the Red Wings. You're kidding me. You're outside
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Speaker 2: of your mind if you think that he's going to
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Speaker 2: ask for a trade. Well, now he wants out. So
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously there are names out there that I
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Speaker 2: would like. But I'm going to go back to the
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Speaker 2: trade that I've proposed a couple of times. Who says, no,
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Speaker 2: I think Jason Bostrel packages a couple of seventh overall
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Speaker 2: our seventh round picks and maybe a low level prospect
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Speaker 2: for Conor McDavid, who says, no, oh, everyone needs everyone
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Speaker 2: needs some late round picks. You give them six sevenths
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Speaker 2: and then a couple of prospects you know over in
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Speaker 2: Europe that maybe you don't foresee signing, and then you
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Speaker 2: go to to stand Bowman and in Edmonton and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: we'll take We'll take ninety seven. Offer hands out.
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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money. You're really he's really
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Speaker 1: keeping the organization down.
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Speaker 2: But in all serious in all seriousness, though, I think
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Speaker 2: I think those names that we heard back at the deadline,
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Speaker 2: I think you're Robert Thomas's, You're you're Jason Robertson. Although
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Speaker 2: that's gonna cost you heavily in terms of an offer sheet,
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Speaker 2: those are names that I think are in play for
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Speaker 2: a lot of the league because everyone needs a player
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Speaker 2: like that, right. So, But if if Brady Kachuck can
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Speaker 2: get traded, if Dylan Larkin can ask for a trade.
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Speaker 2: Who knows what's gonna happen in the next four days
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Speaker 2: and going in the draft, Dame like I said that
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Speaker 2: crackt have the number seven overall pick, and from from
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Speaker 2: what from what you hear around the hockey media sphere,
19:56
Speaker 2: they're open to two offers for that seventh overall pick.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, We appreciate it. Great to catch up
20:02
Speaker 1: with you. Glad you're having such a great off season.
20:04
Speaker 1: Glad you had time, good time in Seabrook, and we
20:08
Speaker 1: will bug you again real soon.
20:09
Speaker 2: All right, everyone's got to go to Seabrook. It's great,
20:13
Speaker 2: that's awesome. You'd love it. It's so much fun ahead.
20:15
Speaker 1: Of the Seabrook Tourism Bureau. Ever it fits you, also
20:18
Speaker 1: happens to be the play by play voice of the
20:20
Speaker 1: Seattle Cracker.
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Speaker 2: I moonlight as a play by play voice of Seattle Cracker.
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Speaker 1: Thanks then, ever fits you joining us right here on
20:31
Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning. All right, coming up next,
20:33
Speaker 1: ABC's of the MS Sports Radio ninety three point three
20:36
Speaker 1: kJ RFM would have never not put it in the
20:39
Speaker 1: rundown at the beginning of the show and then realized
20:40
Speaker 1: I didn't put it in the rundown and then changed it.
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Speaker 1: Why would that ever happen?
20:43
Speaker 3: Never happened, Yeah, exactly, Never happen again.
20:48
Speaker 1: That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, Well, good morning to you, Ashley,
20:52
Speaker 1: Ryan Chuck Powell with you. It is time for the
20:54
Speaker 1: ABC's of the MS. It's our daily Mariner segment. We
20:58
Speaker 1: allowed the alphabet to be our guide through a few
21:00
Speaker 1: different things. I mean, we've already talked about can Zone,
21:05
Speaker 1: We've already talked about Logan Gilbert. But maybe the alphabet
21:09
Speaker 1: will not cooperate here to bring them back up again.
21:13
Speaker 1: I guess maybe we'll have to talk about that stuff
21:16
Speaker 1: with Ryan Healy coming up at nine o'clock today. Because
21:20
Speaker 1: we left off of the letter M and M is
21:22
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. I guess that's just a wonderful place. This
21:27
Speaker 1: Byron Buxton really does seem determined to stay there no
21:30
Speaker 1: matter what the record is, no matter what the situation is.
21:34
Speaker 1: And let's face it, I mean, we're still so far
21:37
Speaker 1: away from the trading deadline that I mean, we're six
21:41
Speaker 1: weeks away still, so a lot can change, and a
21:44
Speaker 1: lot's going to have to change. I mean, things are
21:47
Speaker 1: so bunched up in both leagues. Minnesota has been kind
21:51
Speaker 1: of categorized as a for sure seller because of what
21:55
Speaker 1: they did at last year's trading deadline, and yet they're
21:57
Speaker 1: only a game out of the Wild car right now.
22:01
Speaker 1: I mean, there are only four teams right now in
22:03
Speaker 1: the American League Tigers, Red Sox, Royals, and Angels who
22:07
Speaker 1: are more than two games out of the wild The
22:10
Speaker 1: Astros are still in it. They're only two games back
22:13
Speaker 1: in the wild Card at this point. So right now
22:15
Speaker 1: there's just there's not a market. There's just not gonna
22:18
Speaker 1: be for a little while. But it is hard for
22:21
Speaker 1: me to believe that Byron Buckson would be so dedicated
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Speaker 1: to Minnesota. I think he's holding to that because he
22:29
Speaker 1: wants it to be known to everyone in the world. Apparently,
22:34
Speaker 1: is this a great guy that I don't want to
22:37
Speaker 1: turn anybody down? Okay, so I got this no trade clause.
22:42
Speaker 1: This isn't about turning other people down. So right now
22:44
Speaker 1: I'm just sending the MS for message that I love
22:47
Speaker 1: MS for Minnesota, and so I think that's his approach
22:51
Speaker 1: because there are places I have a feeling that they
22:53
Speaker 1: get from the small town in Georgia who's spent his
22:56
Speaker 1: entire professional career in lovely, smallish Minneapolis, And this for
23:02
Speaker 1: Minneapolis is probably like, I don't want to be a Yankee.
23:07
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a Red Sox. I don't
23:09
Speaker 1: want to be a Dodger. I kind of like this
23:13
Speaker 1: small town, smaller town thing that I've got going on here,
23:17
Speaker 1: and I'm very content here. But if Seattle comes knocking,
23:21
Speaker 1: if the Atlanta Braves, which is near his hometown, come
23:25
Speaker 1: and knocking, I do think he would wave that no
23:28
Speaker 1: trade clause. And I'm not sure if Seattle would be
23:30
Speaker 1: the right situation, but I do believe he would waive
23:34
Speaker 1: that no trade clause for the right team and the
23:37
Speaker 1: right situation. And I think Seattle would be a right
23:40
Speaker 1: situation for Byron Buxton right now. So that's still where
23:43
Speaker 1: I'm hanging my hat on. Who we should add that
23:46
Speaker 1: won't struggle against left handers?
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I think that's a great plan. Yeah, And
23:53
Speaker 3: we can guarantee he won't struggle because it's definitely not
23:57
Speaker 3: a curse when they get here.
23:58
Speaker 1: Oh no, there foolproof, it really is. It is. If
24:03
Speaker 1: not if not him, hey ms for Marte, I think
24:06
Speaker 1: we might hear could tell Marte's name start coming back
24:09
Speaker 1: up again. Dodgers a running one game out of the
24:12
Speaker 1: wildcard too. Right now. We just saw Wilson Contreras over
24:16
Speaker 1: the weekend with Boston. Obviously things have not gone the
24:19
Speaker 1: way they've wanted them to, but he's been their best player.
24:22
Speaker 1: Don't know, I mean, he'd just be our d h
24:24
Speaker 1: at this point. But just a few names, a few
24:28
Speaker 1: names that are kind of circling right now the brain.
24:32
Speaker 1: Speaking of first base, n N is for Naylor. I
24:36
Speaker 1: don't know what's happened to Josh Naylor at first base,
24:40
Speaker 1: but man, it is sloppy and at times, I mean,
24:43
Speaker 1: he still looks like that ballerino over there with his
24:47
Speaker 1: nimble feet and crossing over and you know, and plays
24:51
Speaker 1: the game, plays defense with a little bit of flair
24:55
Speaker 1: over to him. But flair comes after you are making
25:00
Speaker 1: all of the routine plays, and it just kind of
25:02
Speaker 1: feels to me like he's trying to make everything look
25:07
Speaker 1: sexier than it needs to be. This is first base.
25:10
Speaker 1: The job is to catch the damn ball. The job
25:13
Speaker 1: is to flip the damn ball, and Logan Gilbert here
25:17
Speaker 1: he is, I'm gonna push it into the seventh inning,
25:20
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure that was even the right move
25:22
Speaker 1: by Dan. Let's push it into the seventh inning, because Dan,
25:26
Speaker 1: every starting pitcher has to go between ninety and ninety
25:29
Speaker 1: five pitches. It is a requirement. So Logan's covering first base.
25:35
Speaker 1: I mean, he's all legs and arms, he's six foot seven's.
25:39
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a Coca Pelly over there trying
25:43
Speaker 1: to run over to first base. And Naylor gives maybe
25:47
Speaker 1: the worst toss to first to a pitcher I've ever seen. Yeah,
25:50
Speaker 1: and then he ends up rolling in a ball in
25:52
Speaker 1: the heap. We don't want. It's like seeing Wimby fall down.
25:55
Speaker 1: You don't want the tall, skinny, gangly guys to be
25:59
Speaker 1: falling down and their parts are going everywhere. And so
26:03
Speaker 1: for Naylor to have given such a lazy, half assed
26:09
Speaker 1: toss to Logan Gilbert, I mean, honestly, you've just got
26:14
Speaker 1: to be better than that. You've got to be better
26:16
Speaker 1: than that. I would agree with that.
26:18
Speaker 3: He has to be better, and we've seen him be better,
26:20
Speaker 3: which is why it's frustrating. And I know, coming in here,
26:23
Speaker 3: his defense wasn't the thing that was you know, he
26:26
Speaker 3: was that we were getting him for it was a
26:28
Speaker 3: bonus when his defense was the best that he's played
26:31
Speaker 3: basically in his entire career. But how do you go
26:33
Speaker 3: from playing the best defense of your entire career to this.
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Speaker 1: It looks to me like he's trying to be He's
26:40
Speaker 1: trying to make first base look cool.
26:42
Speaker 3: Which is so opposite of how you would what you
26:44
Speaker 3: would expect from him.
26:45
Speaker 1: Though, well, he does wear fancy shoes. I do love
26:48
Speaker 1: the shoes. He does wear a fancy belt, and I
26:50
Speaker 1: don't dislike him any more. It's nothing like that. But
26:55
Speaker 1: I mean enough of the trying to make the underhand
26:59
Speaker 1: throw to second base around the run. Just straighten your
27:03
Speaker 1: back out and make the right throw, step forward and
27:06
Speaker 1: throw it where it needs to be thrown, and catch
27:09
Speaker 1: the ball when it needs where it needs to be caught. Yeah,
27:12
Speaker 1: and I think he is caught in trying to make
27:14
Speaker 1: first base look cooler than it actually is. I hope
27:17
Speaker 1: not always for odd You know, there are a lot
27:22
Speaker 1: of frustrating things about this season. For those of you
27:27
Speaker 1: that are angry and didn't have expectations, I'm not really
27:34
Speaker 1: sure what your problem is. It's a lot more frustrating
27:36
Speaker 1: for all of us that actually see the promise of
27:39
Speaker 1: this team and see how good they could be and
27:42
Speaker 1: just haven't been good this season. That should be a
27:46
Speaker 1: lot more frustrating than you angry people who think Jerry
27:49
Speaker 1: sucks and Dan sucks and everybody sucks, and so, I mean,
27:53
Speaker 1: shouldn't this be kind of on par for what you
27:56
Speaker 1: were expecting this year? That aside weirdos always for odd
28:04
Speaker 1: From this standpoint, it is just really, I mean, just
28:09
Speaker 1: kind of got to take a deep breath, Ashley, and
28:13
Speaker 1: we're thirty nine and thirty eight, far below my expectations
28:16
Speaker 1: at this point of the year, and yet still a
28:18
Speaker 1: first place team somehow, game and a half up on
28:21
Speaker 1: the A's at this stage, and cal Rawley just cannot
28:26
Speaker 1: get going. It just doesn't matter. He is hitting one
28:31
Speaker 1: sixty four, great, he is not homer When is his
28:36
Speaker 1: last homer? I mean, I know he was on the
28:38
Speaker 1: injury list for thirty days, but to have gone this
28:42
Speaker 1: season and to have to be sitting here with a
28:47
Speaker 1: one actually it's one sixty two, sorry, one sixty two
28:51
Speaker 1: and be stuck on seven home runs hill, I mean,
28:55
Speaker 1: who would have ever ever dreamt that he would have
29:00
Speaker 1: this kind of a season, And I thought he was
29:02
Speaker 1: going to hit the ground running when he came back,
29:04
Speaker 1: and I do think he's looked better. I thought at
29:06
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year he was looking over matched
29:08
Speaker 1: at times, which just is mind blowing for a guy
29:11
Speaker 1: that hit sixty home runs a season ago. But to me,
29:15
Speaker 1: his timing looks much better since he's come back and
29:19
Speaker 1: he's hit some deep balls. It's like he's hitting to
29:22
Speaker 1: the wall, but he's not hitting any over the wall.
29:26
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, putting everything else aside. If
29:31
Speaker 1: you tell me at the beginning of the year that
29:33
Speaker 1: by June twenty second, col will be hitting one sixty
29:36
Speaker 1: two with a five to sixty OPS and stuck on
29:38
Speaker 1: seven home runs for almost two months, I wouldn't even
29:43
Speaker 1: have predicted thirty nine and thirty eight. I be well,
29:45
Speaker 1: how many games under five hundred are we? Yeah?
29:48
Speaker 3: How miserable is our season?
29:49
Speaker 1: As good as the roster I feel is and I
29:52
Speaker 1: think it's the best one that they've put together since
29:55
Speaker 1: I arrived here in Seattle. I still considering what cal
30:00
Speaker 1: Rawley meant to that team a year ago. I mean
30:03
Speaker 1: minimum expectations. I mean, you're you're over two hundred batting average,
30:09
Speaker 1: you're over a seven hundred ops at this stage, and
30:13
Speaker 1: yet he just can't get it going and it is
30:17
Speaker 1: just bold faced odd to me.
30:19
Speaker 3: Well, and yeah, just sad too because that I think
30:24
Speaker 3: everybody can agree that cal Rawly's very likable and we
30:27
Speaker 3: want him to do well and we want to cheer
30:28
Speaker 3: for him, and so it's just a you know, when
30:31
Speaker 3: he's not doing well and you're just trying to will
30:33
Speaker 3: him to be doing well because you want to be
30:35
Speaker 3: able to cheer for him and you want that dumper
30:37
Speaker 3: smile on second base looking back at his dugout like yeah,
30:41
Speaker 3: let's do it, boys, and you're not getting it. It
30:44
Speaker 3: makes me sad.
30:46
Speaker 1: It's got to pop, right, I would think so. But
30:48
Speaker 1: I knew and I do believe it in my down
30:51
Speaker 1: to my core that it's gonna pop. And when it pops,
30:54
Speaker 1: it's going to be spectacular. But you just don't go
30:58
Speaker 1: from the sixty home run season and how dare they
31:01
Speaker 1: give Aaron Judge the MVP to the next season hitting
31:06
Speaker 1: one sixty two with a five to sixty Oh ps, Yeah,
31:10
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get it. Unreal all right?
31:13
Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, Seahawks one series in
31:17
Speaker 1: the month of June, and so we are going to
31:20
Speaker 1: do our Seahawks one series reke If you didn't hear
31:22
Speaker 1: Rob Ring talking about Derek Hall, you're going to hear
31:24
Speaker 1: about it next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
31:41
Speaker 1: I don't forget Jason Botrell GM and the crack. I'm
31:43
Speaker 1: going to join us at nine thirty. We had lots
31:46
Speaker 1: to discuss with mister Botrel made a trade yesterday, also
31:50
Speaker 1: re signed Bobby McMahon as well to an extension. So
31:54
Speaker 1: looking forward to that conversation at nine thirty, and Ryan
31:56
Speaker 1: Healey's going to join us at nine o'clock. A lot
31:58
Speaker 1: of baseball things discussed with the Farmer Mariner coming up
32:01
Speaker 1: at nine. But our Seahawks one series recap continues every
32:05
Speaker 1: day during the month of June. We bring on one
32:08
Speaker 1: top analyst from town to break down one key Seahawk
32:11
Speaker 1: player for one entire interview, and on Friday we had
32:14
Speaker 1: Ryan Heally on. We've already done our Seahawks one series
32:17
Speaker 1: installment for today, but we also do Seahawks one series recap.
32:21
Speaker 1: We had Rob Rang, Yes, Robert, what did I say,
32:23
Speaker 1: Ryan Heally?
32:23
Speaker 2: Oh?
32:24
Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, Well, you were thinking about the next seg.
32:26
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, but Rob Rang was on with us
32:29
Speaker 1: on Friday. I mean, you know him as our draft
32:32
Speaker 1: guy during the draft season and the guy that comes
32:35
Speaker 1: on with Ian all football season long and talks about
32:39
Speaker 1: talent prospects and stuff. But he also does a Seahawks
32:43
Speaker 1: podcast with Corbyn Smith and he can break it down
32:47
Speaker 1: in terms of the Seahawks as well as anybody out there.
32:49
Speaker 1: So we had him on on Friday and he chose
32:53
Speaker 1: Derek Hall to discuss. And of course, Derek Hall signed
32:56
Speaker 1: an extension to remain a Seahawk where boy A Mafe
33:00
Speaker 1: left be a free agency to the Cincinnati Bengals, and
33:03
Speaker 1: didn't feel like the Seahawks put up much of a fight.
33:06
Speaker 1: But I asked Rob Range, point blank, since Mafey is
33:09
Speaker 1: making so much more money than Derek Hall's agreed to,
33:13
Speaker 1: which guy would you prefer that the Seahawks have Mafe
33:17
Speaker 1: or Derek Hall? Derek Hall hands down.
33:20
Speaker 4: You know boy Mafe's pass rush ability. I guess I would.
33:24
Speaker 4: I would use a you know, mix my analogies here
33:26
Speaker 4: and I don't. Unfortunately, I don't know soccer well enough
33:29
Speaker 4: to use a soccer analogis. So I'm gonna swing to
33:32
Speaker 4: baseball here, and to me, boy Mafe is that one
33:35
Speaker 4: dimensional player. Well, maybe he's a base either, maybe he's
33:37
Speaker 4: a home run hitter, but he is not a well
33:40
Speaker 4: rounded player. Whereas Derek calm, to me, that is the
33:44
Speaker 4: best aspect about him is I don't know that there's
33:46
Speaker 4: a better player on Seattle's defense. And when it comes
33:49
Speaker 4: to just stopping the run, those thirty four and a
33:52
Speaker 4: half inch arms we.
33:52
Speaker 1: Talked about, he's very, very strong at the.
33:55
Speaker 4: Point of attack, not just with his again bench press numbers,
33:59
Speaker 4: but his core strength. He just plants his feet into
34:04
Speaker 4: the ground and he's like a tree stump.
34:06
Speaker 1: I mean, he is just difficult to move.
34:09
Speaker 4: And so that is the basis of why Seal's linebackers
34:13
Speaker 4: and safeties are able to make as many plays as
34:16
Speaker 4: they are, just because they don't have to worry about
34:17
Speaker 4: blockers giving to him. Because big number fifty eight is
34:20
Speaker 4: among the big defensive linemen up there at the point
34:22
Speaker 4: of attack who are kind of holding down the fort
34:25
Speaker 4: and so I think that that unselfish style of play
34:28
Speaker 4: again just carries over. And I do believe that you're
34:30
Speaker 4: going to see an uptick in sacks. I don't believe
34:32
Speaker 4: you're ever going to see him be a ten sack
34:35
Speaker 4: kind of a player. I want to have realistic expectations.
34:38
Speaker 4: He had eight sacks two years ago, and when I
34:40
Speaker 4: watched all eight of those sacks in preparation for this video,
34:43
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of frankly coverage sacks where he
34:47
Speaker 4: just his motor and a relentless effort kind of got
34:50
Speaker 4: him those sacks. He's not a quick win type of
34:52
Speaker 4: a guy, but what he does do is he's very
34:55
Speaker 4: rarely out of position, and that was something that boy
34:57
Speaker 4: mafe sometimes would take a really wide loop to get
35:01
Speaker 4: to the quarterback and then leave easy running opportunities for alert,
35:05
Speaker 4: scrambling quarterbacks to take advantage of. So boy Mafy again
35:08
Speaker 4: one dimensional, very good in that one dimension. I think
35:11
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a heck of a player for the
35:12
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals. But for my money, I would absolutely take
35:15
Speaker 4: Derek calls all around game rather than the one the
35:19
Speaker 4: single edge approach that that boy Mafay offered.
35:23
Speaker 1: That's Rob Ranning on Derek Hall on Friday, part of
35:26
Speaker 1: our Seahawks one series. Yeah for sure, I mean I
35:31
Speaker 1: agree with him on that front. I was we were
35:33
Speaker 1: all surprised how much money Mafe ended up getting. But
35:38
Speaker 1: you know, I mean if Derek Hall hits free agencies,
35:41
Speaker 1: gonna get probably just as much, if not more. If
35:46
Speaker 1: you get let him get to that point, I mean,
35:48
Speaker 1: he's taken seventy percent of the salary that Mafey ended
35:52
Speaker 1: up getting on the free agent market to remain a Seahawk.
35:56
Speaker 1: Shows you how much he loves Seahawks, shows you how
35:59
Speaker 1: much he loves a super Bowl Shojiao Muci loved Mike
36:02
Speaker 1: McDonald's defense, loves his teammates. Because that's Derek Hall saying, Hey,
36:07
Speaker 1: I don't need to be the richest guy out there,
36:08
Speaker 1: because a lot of them feel that way. I need
36:10
Speaker 1: to be the richest guy out there. I need I
36:12
Speaker 1: need to maximize. I can't let boy A Mafe, my
36:14
Speaker 1: old teammate, make more money than me. There are a
36:17
Speaker 1: lot of professional athletes carry that sort of bias with them.
36:22
Speaker 1: I mean, Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson like best friends,
36:26
Speaker 1: and they were determined each of them to make more
36:29
Speaker 1: than the other guy. And here's Derek Hall saying, I
36:32
Speaker 1: want to be here. I'll sign thirty percent less of
36:36
Speaker 1: a deal than boy A Mafey, even though I'm the
36:39
Speaker 1: better player by that.
36:41
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's so incredible is because when
36:44
Speaker 3: we even yeah, when we saw him, do you know,
36:46
Speaker 3: make the announcement that he had resigned, and it was like,
36:49
Speaker 3: wait a minute, Oh, he's not even gonna test it.
36:51
Speaker 3: He just that is the culture that Mike McDonald has built.
36:54
Speaker 3: That is what is special about this team. He has
36:56
Speaker 3: found the right people that want to be here, that
36:58
Speaker 3: are bringing the right pieces to this defense, to this
37:01
Speaker 3: organization in general. And I mean, I love the Hall
37:06
Speaker 3: wants to be a part of that and doesn't need
37:07
Speaker 3: to have somebody tell him he could make this much
37:11
Speaker 3: money in order to feed his ego or make him
37:14
Speaker 3: feel better about his skills.
37:17
Speaker 1: Well, let's face it, you're not gonna be able to
37:20
Speaker 1: keep this entire group together. Some guys are leaving. We've
37:22
Speaker 1: already seen it. Kobe Bryant left. It's got too good
37:25
Speaker 1: of a deal. But you're gonna need some guys to
37:28
Speaker 1: take less in order to keep this unit as much
37:34
Speaker 1: of it as you possibly can. There's another story Friday
37:37
Speaker 1: we didn't have time to discuss. Jeffrey Simmons three year,
37:39
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar extension with the Tennessee Titans. That
37:43
Speaker 1: is an inside defensive lineman who just broke the market
37:48
Speaker 1: for interior defensive linemen. I mean, that's what Byron Murphy's
37:52
Speaker 1: gonna make. It's gonna be thirty three, thirty four to
37:56
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year because Jeffrey Simmons just
37:59
Speaker 1: set the marketplace for it. It's crazy. So and Byron Murphy,
38:04
Speaker 1: probably because he's top of the market, probably won't take
38:07
Speaker 1: less than that. But you're gonna have to have a
38:09
Speaker 1: few guys take a little less to keep as much
38:13
Speaker 1: of the nucleus together as you possibly can. And Derek
38:16
Speaker 1: Hall raised his hand and said, I'll sacrifice a little bit.
38:19
Speaker 1: I want to be here. It's gonna make you forever
38:22
Speaker 1: love that guy.
38:23
Speaker 2: It is.
38:24
Speaker 1: I know this city all right. Coming up next, Ryan
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