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Bonus Episode: Soccer Hooligans, Rockstars, Britpop Battles and War · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party. The bridge to get you from one full
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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig
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Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a top five soccer hooligan rockstar countdown, as inspired by
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Speaker 1: this week's full episode on the Hillsboro Disaster, Rod the Bod,
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Speaker 1: Sir Elton, the Cartel, some metal head tryhards, and more,
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Speaker 1: plus your voicemails, text emails, It's dms, and as always,
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for
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Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know
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Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told,
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Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right,
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Speaker 1: this goes let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: So we're doing a little bit of sports this week
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Speaker 1: because the World Cup is among us. But you know,
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Speaker 1: sports through the lens of chaos and tragedy, which is
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Speaker 1: very disgraceland. Our Hillsboro tragedy episode is in the feed
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Speaker 1: for you guys. That's what prompted all this. This is
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Speaker 1: the story of the ninety seven innocent victims who died
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Speaker 1: at this soccer match back in nineteen eighty nine, and
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Speaker 1: the story about how they were escapegoaded by authorities. It's
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Speaker 1: just it's maddening. And I knew nothing about this story
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Speaker 1: when I first heard about it about five years ago
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Speaker 1: or so. Anyways, it's an incredible tale. I hope you
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Speaker 1: dig it. Check it out. It's in the feed right now.
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Speaker 1: We have it live now. Because of this time of year,
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Speaker 1: the World Cup is happening, NBA Finals are happening, Stanley
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Speaker 1: Cup Finals, the NCAA Baseball tournament. Sports is dominating our
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Speaker 1: attention at the moment, is what I'm saying. So I
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Speaker 1: thought I do a little high fidelity Rob Gordon Championship Final,
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Speaker 1: Top five Rock and Roll soccer crossover moments, with an emphasis,
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Speaker 1: of course, on the strange and bizarre and the unknown,
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Speaker 1: unknown at least to me and hopefully to you as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into it. Number five, The
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Speaker 1: rock and roll myth that Rod Stewart and no, not
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Speaker 1: that myth that Rod Stewart was signed by a professional
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Speaker 1: soccer club by Brentford FC, Brentford Football Club back before
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Speaker 1: he became a famous rock star. The myth goes, as
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Speaker 1: the myth goes, Rod chose not to play professionally in
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Speaker 1: order to sing about hot legs and girls named Maggie May.
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Speaker 1: But that's not true, Okay. What is true is that
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Speaker 1: Rod tried out. It was his life's ambition as a
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Speaker 1: child up to that point to become a professional soccer player.
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Speaker 1: He tried out, but the team never called him back.
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Speaker 1: But this was believed forever, basically, and the story originated
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Speaker 1: with a young publicist back in the day when Rod's
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Speaker 1: career was just getting going, and the story was embellished
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Speaker 1: throughout the years people believed it. It was of course,
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Speaker 1: overshadowed by another Rod Stewart rock and roll myth that
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into here, and it wasn't
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Speaker 1: until Rod himself set the record straight in his twenty
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Speaker 1: twelve autobiography, which is really good, by the way, I
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Speaker 1: highly recommend it. I'm sure, however, that Rod was at
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Speaker 1: least pleased with the notion that people thought he could
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Speaker 1: have been a professional soccer player football player. I can't
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Speaker 1: say football. I have to say soccer. English listeners, forgive me.
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Speaker 1: European listeners, I should say, forgive me when I say soccer.
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Speaker 1: I know fully that you guys call it football, and
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say soccer because that's.
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Speaker 2: What we do over here. We have a whole other game.
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Speaker 1: You know this, all right, I'm not going to get
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Speaker 1: into that, Listen. I'd be pleased too if the world
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Speaker 1: thought that I, in addition to being a world famous
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Speaker 1: rock star, could also be a professional athlete. And you know,
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Speaker 1: Rod kind of looks the part. I know, it's weird
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Speaker 1: to think of nineteen seventies Rod Stewart as a professional athlete,
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Speaker 1: a professional anything besides a rock star, based on the
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Speaker 1: whole peacock attire and the you know, the hair, all that,
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Speaker 1: But if you look at seventies photos of him playing soccer,
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Speaker 1: he kind of looks great. He looks the part. I
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Speaker 1: gotta say, it's a believable story, but it's not true,
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Speaker 1: all right. Number four? Listen, what's up with the dudes
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Speaker 1: an Iron Maiden. I swear they're like superhumans or something.
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Speaker 1: Singer Bruce Dickinson literally flies Iron Maiden in their crew
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Speaker 1: from gig to gig in a massive Boeing seven forty
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Speaker 1: seven jumbo jet. This isn't like John F. Kennedy Junior
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Speaker 1: up there in a little prop playing a jumbo jet.
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Speaker 1: All right. Bruce Dickinson's also vegan. He's I think two
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six years old and still looks thirty three.
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Speaker 1: I think he's straight edge and he was once ranked
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Speaker 1: top twenty in the UK as a fencer, which I'm
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Speaker 1: told is a sport. But I'm not here to talk
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Speaker 1: about fencing. I'm here to talk about Steve Harris, iron
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Speaker 1: Man's bass player. And in addition to inventing his own
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Speaker 1: style of bass playing that has been aped by tons
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Speaker 1: of heavy metal bass guitarists over the years, Steve Harris,
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Speaker 1: bass player for Iron Maiden, was also scouted as a
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Speaker 1: kid by legendary footballer Wally Saint Pierre and signed to
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Speaker 1: west Ham United signed it into their youth program. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: now Steve Harris, unlike Rod Stewart, he actually did get
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Speaker 1: the call and he chose to play rock and roll instead.
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Speaker 1: Still supports west Ham United to this day. Pretty cool,
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Speaker 1: all right, Number three, This is the one I really
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Speaker 1: want to talk about. Nineteen ninety six great year, so
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Speaker 1: called swaggiest game of soccer ever was played in East
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Speaker 1: London at a charity event during the height of britpop
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Speaker 1: and more specifically, during the height of the Oasis Blur
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Speaker 1: battle for britpop supremacy. They literally called it the Battle
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Speaker 1: of Britpop. We'll get into the mechanics of all that,
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Speaker 1: what that was in the exclusive section of this after party,
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Speaker 1: and more into the Oasis and Blur a rivalry than
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Speaker 1: we're going to do right here. Go to disgracempod dot
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Speaker 1: com to sign up, get that exclusive content, get other
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Speaker 1: exclusive content, get ad free content, all that, All right,
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Speaker 1: disgraceimpod dot com. That conversation's coming up later. But back
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Speaker 1: to this one right here again. The battle for britpop supremacy. Now,
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Speaker 1: the battle, you might be surprised to learn, was won
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Speaker 1: by Blur with their nineteen ninety five chart dominance of
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Speaker 1: their single country House not Country Home. Country House reigning
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Speaker 1: supreme over the Oasis single roll with it. However, the war,
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Speaker 1: the Britpop war, was ultimately won by Oasis with their
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Speaker 1: recent dominance, as witnessed by their twenty twenty five unprecedented
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Speaker 1: cultural and commercial resurgence to the New Tour all that stuff.
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Speaker 1: You guys know all about that, But back in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety six, it was still undetermined which of these two
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Speaker 1: Britpop rivals was going to reign supreme, and no one
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Speaker 1: knew who was going to reign supreme on the soccer field.
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Speaker 1: On the pitch as they say, Okay, two celebrity teams
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Speaker 1: pulled together to bang balls out on the field and
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Speaker 1: one team was captained by Damon Alburn from Blur and
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Speaker 1: the other team was captained by Liam Gallagher from Oasis.
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Speaker 1: It should be mentioned that Damon is a supporter of
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Speaker 1: Chelsea and Liam is a support of Man City. On
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Speaker 1: the field that day a ton of drama, as you
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Speaker 1: can guess, anytime you have Liam Gallagher and Damon from
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Speaker 1: Blur in the same vicinity, there's gonna be drama. Most
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Speaker 1: of it, however, was brought on by Liam. He was
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Speaker 1: in Damon's face almost the entire time, physically all over
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Speaker 1: them all game. At one point he tried pulling down
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Speaker 1: his pants. At another point in the middle of the game,
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Speaker 1: he took a smoke smoke break Liam did on the field.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense. Chuck to Chuck to cannabar at a reporter,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense as well. Just genius Gallagher who will
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Speaker 1: get in field work. And of course these guys they
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Speaker 1: look great the entire time. Pictures of this event are fascinating,
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Speaker 1: just fascinating. They're awesome. You can tell Damon's taking it
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Speaker 1: kind of seriously. He's kind of dressed in his own
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Speaker 1: little uni and then you got you got Liam who's
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Speaker 1: in a in a cagle on the field. Fucking amazing.
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Speaker 1: It's so good Damon's team won and Liam of was
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Speaker 1: not happy about that. You can hear, like I said,
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Speaker 1: you can hear about the Battle of Pop more about
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Speaker 1: that with Zeth and I in the exclusive section of
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Speaker 1: this after party Disgrace sampod dot com to sign up.
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Speaker 1: But if you want to hear more about this is fascinating.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear more about how soccer fight songs, okay,
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Speaker 1: the big stadium chance, If you want to hear more
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Speaker 1: about how that music directly inspired the pop mastery of Oasis.
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Speaker 1: You got to check out our Oasis episodes in our archive.
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Speaker 1: All right, okay, next number two on our Rob Gordon
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Speaker 1: Championship Vinyl list of soccer. What are we doing? Soccer
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Speaker 1: rock and roll madness? Number two? This one is the
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Speaker 1: weirdest and I've largely ignored stories in my podcasting career
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Speaker 1: about Mexican cartels getting involved in the music industry sports
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Speaker 1: world as well, but I am blown away at the
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Speaker 1: lengths that the cartels go to to grow their criminal enterprises.
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Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, the United States Department United States Treasury
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Speaker 1: Department revealed that one professional soccer player, Mexican player Rafael Marquez,
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Speaker 1: was being used along with a popular Mexican musician, Julio Alvarez,
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Speaker 1: to launder money for one of the cartels. Not just
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Speaker 1: like just to match. We'll get to this in a second.
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Speaker 1: Marquez played for Barcelona and was the captain of the
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Speaker 1: Mexican national team. Okay, so just imagine that you work
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Speaker 1: your whole life to get where you are, the literal
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Speaker 1: top of the game of your game, and one day
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Speaker 1: a violent drug trafficker comes knocking and he tells you
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Speaker 1: that you're going to help him launder his truckloads of
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Speaker 1: money by buying and holding expensive assets for him, and
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Speaker 1: then you get popped by the Feds and your career
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Speaker 1: is ruined. Sort of not really, still yikes. Same goes
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Speaker 1: for the musician here. And that's almost a little more
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Speaker 1: understandable that a musician would get caught up in kind
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Speaker 1: of a racket with a cartel, given that the history
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Speaker 1: of the music business it's so closely related to the
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Speaker 1: crime business. But sports seems a little more pure, I guess. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: Marquez the player here, despite the drug cartel allegations, somehow
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Speaker 1: cleared his name with Mexican authorities. I'm putting quotes around authorities,
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Speaker 1: and built a career as a coach and is now,
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Speaker 1: incredibly to this day, the head coach of the Mexican
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Speaker 1: national team. There's a lot I could say about this
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Speaker 1: story that I'm not saying. You can kind of read
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Speaker 1: between the lines here, and all the info is out
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Speaker 1: there are and easy to find if you're interested. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Number one, Now, I knew the Rod Stewart story here.
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Speaker 1: I knew about the Oasis and Blur match, I knew
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Speaker 1: about Iron maiden Steve Harris. I knew that he was
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Speaker 1: some kind of child savant. I should say, I didn't
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Speaker 1: quite know the whole soccer connection, and I'm not surprised
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Speaker 1: about the Mexican cartel infiltrating the world of soccer and
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Speaker 1: music through players and musicians. But somehow, in all of
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Speaker 1: my music history research, I never came across the fact
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Speaker 1: that Elton John not only owned one, but two professional
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Speaker 1: soccer clubs, Watford FC and the Los Angeles as Techs.
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Speaker 1: Even more important is the fact that Elton John brought
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Speaker 1: this football club, Watford. Am I saying that correctly? I'm
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Speaker 1: probably not. I apologize to the good people of Watford
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Speaker 1: wherever that is. He brought this football club back from
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Speaker 1: financial and competitive ruin lowest of the fourth Division, ranked
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Speaker 1: dead last ninety two of ninety two, all the way
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Speaker 1: to the top tier of the first Basically, Elton John
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Speaker 1: did what Ryan Reynolds and Rob from Always Sonny and
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia did with Wrexham. Elton John already did it. It's
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Speaker 1: just that there wasn't a Hulu back then when he
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Speaker 1: did it, so they didn't make a TV show about it.
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Speaker 1: But you know what's wild, I thought of this this
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Speaker 1: morning when I when I came across this fact. When
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Speaker 1: I interviewed Elton John back in twenty nineteen, it was
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Speaker 1: May of twenty nineteen, and he asked me. It was
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Speaker 1: sort of like after the interview was done, and he
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Speaker 1: asked me where I was from, and I told him Boston,
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Speaker 1: and he got really animated and excited. He wanted it.
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Speaker 1: I thought, this is hysterical. He started talking to me
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Speaker 1: about the Boston Bruins because they were in the Stanley
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Speaker 1: Cup at that moment, and he was just really animated
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Speaker 1: about the success of Boston sports and wanted to know
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Speaker 1: what it was like to be a Boston sports fan crazy.
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Speaker 1: And this is because, like I said, the Bruins were
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Speaker 1: in the Stanley Cup at that moment. They lost the Blues.
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Speaker 1: The Celtics were in the Eastern Conference Finals. I think
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Speaker 1: they had just lost to Cleveland. I think that was
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Speaker 1: Lebron's Cavaliers. I think it was. But a couple months earlier,
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Speaker 1: the Patriots had won the Super Bowl. They'd beaten the Rams,
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Speaker 1: and that was in January, and a couple months before that,
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Speaker 1: in October early November, the Red Sox had won the
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Speaker 1: World Series. It's this fascinating to think that out there
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Speaker 1: as a Boston sports fan, that you know, Elton John
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Speaker 1: is sitting out there somewhere, you know, thinking about all
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Speaker 1: the success that we are having as Boston sports fans.
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Speaker 1: Really blew my mind. And I am so pissed off
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Speaker 1: at myself for not knowing this history then about Elton
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Speaker 1: John and the football team that he still owns a
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Speaker 1: piece of. He's not running the team anymore with his buddy,
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Speaker 1: but that he actually he actually did what again, what
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Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds and Rob from Always Sunny are celebrated for doing.
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Speaker 1: It's like we've almost completely forgotten about this. It's not
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Speaker 1: I guess because Elton John has done so much. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, he did this thing too, But
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I find it completely fascinating. Anyways, there's
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Speaker 1: a little rock and roll in soccer history for you guys. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: I can find it completely fascinating, and I'm a little
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Speaker 1: upset at myself that I wasn't able to bring that
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Speaker 1: up with Elton John in the moment and talk to
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Speaker 1: him about it and get his perspective of what that
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Speaker 1: would have been like. You know, that's a fascinating perspective.
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Speaker 1: So few people own and guide the success of professional
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Speaker 1: sports teams, never mind while also being one of the
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Speaker 1: biggest pop stars on the planet in the history of
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Speaker 1: the world. Actually, I would have loved that. I would
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Speaker 1: have loved to have asked him what that was like.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't get the chance because of my own ignorance,
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Speaker 1: And yeah, bums me out a little bit, all right. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: there's a little rock and roll in soccer history for
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Speaker 1: you guys for World Cup week here in honor as
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Speaker 1: I said of the Hillsboro disaster episode in your feeds.
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Speaker 1: This week, speaking of disasters, we have our Marilyn Manson
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Speaker 1: archive episode coming in the rewind slot this week. That's
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Speaker 1: dropping right after this, So don't go anywhere. We still
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Speaker 1: had a lot of after parties, so don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: But you know, you know the Manson story. People ask
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Speaker 1: me all the time, where do you get these crazy stories?
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Speaker 1: How do you know what these rock stars are up to?
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Speaker 1: And I often tell them about how well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's all out there. Many of them even put this
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Speaker 1: information out there themselves. This guy, this fucking guy, he
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Speaker 1: wrote it all down in his book seriously about how
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Speaker 1: he was going to commit murder, like in detail how
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Speaker 1: he was going to pull off the crime. You know,
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Speaker 1: how he degraded women, fans, the abuse, the nihilism, the inhumanity.
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Speaker 1: It's all there in his book. All that is in
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson's autobiography. So when accusations flooded into the public
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Speaker 1: about Manson's treatment of the women in his life a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, none of it was surprising. Actually
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Speaker 1: that's not true. It was surprising. Confounding is a better
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Speaker 1: word than surprising. Anyhow, check out this episode if you
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Speaker 1: have not already, and actually even if you have checked
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Speaker 1: it out, even if you have listened, listen again.
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Speaker 2: You'll learn more.
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Speaker 1: You'll pick up more details, and this episode will not
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Speaker 1: fail to shock you even on second listen. Okay, after
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson, next week we got a new episode in
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Speaker 1: the Feed on George Jones, one of my favorite singers
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Speaker 1: of all time, not just my favorite country singers, one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite singers period. I hear George's voice and
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Speaker 1: I just stop what I'm doing and I listen. George
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Speaker 1: had one of the greatest voices ever. So when you're
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Speaker 1: listening to this episode, be thinking about which singers do
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Speaker 1: it for you the most. Who's got that voice that
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Speaker 1: just stops you in your tracks, that can bring you
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Speaker 1: to tears, that can make you feel things that you
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Speaker 1: don't normally feel. All Right, that's gonna be the question
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Speaker 1: of the week. Six one, seven, nine oh six, six,
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Speaker 1: six three eight. Give us a call, send us a text,
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Speaker 1: let us know your answer. You might hear yourself on
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Speaker 1: the after party. Now, I'm really excited about these next
17:52
Speaker 1: few episodes we got coming at the beginning of the
17:54
Speaker 1: summer this year. The Sonic Youth episode we have coming
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Speaker 1: is a banger to be all bangers, and it is
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Speaker 1: super true crime. It's not only about Thurston Moore and
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Speaker 1: the badassness of Kim Gordon and the awesomeness of Steve
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Speaker 1: Shelley and Lee Ronaldo and Thurston and Kim's relationship. It's
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Speaker 1: about the true crime story that inspired the cover of
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Speaker 1: Sonic Youse Goo, A story with two of the coolest
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Speaker 1: rock and roll heroes that nobody knows about at the
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Speaker 1: center of it. A story about the shocking Moore's murders. Now,
18:28
Speaker 1: on the subject of shock, we are soon bringing you
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Speaker 1: our heavily requested episode on Wendy Oh Williams. You're like,
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Speaker 1: oh cool, maybe I'll check that out. Wendy O. Williams,
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Speaker 1: she's one with the duc Take nipples and the chainsaw,
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Speaker 1: who dated Lemme from Motorhead all that. Yes, it's about
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Speaker 1: all that. Of course, that's kind of the stuff I
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Speaker 1: knew about her before we got into this episode and
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Speaker 1: putting it together for you guys. But I did not
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Speaker 1: understand the emotion and creative heartbreak at the heart of
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Speaker 1: Wendy O. Williams's story. It is a heavy one, and
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Speaker 1: it's as much about the costs and the soul sucking
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Speaker 1: sometimes I should say, the sometimes soul sucking nature of
19:06
Speaker 1: trying to make it in this world as a committed artist,
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Speaker 1: as it is about shock and the stuff that you
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Speaker 1: would think it would be about when we're talking about
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Speaker 1: Wendy Williams, it's also about New York and the seventies.
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Speaker 2: So it's right up our asle.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna dig it, okay, So little unexpected preview of episodes.
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Speaker 1: We are coming up here in Disgraceland this summer, coming
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Speaker 1: up right after this. Your voicemails, text DMS emails and more.
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Speaker 3: I'll be back in the flash, all right, guys, we
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Speaker 3: are back six one seven, nine oh six sixty six
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Speaker 3: three eight.
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Speaker 1: I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall.
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Speaker 1: I'm hanging on the telephone with you. Guys. Take your calls.
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Speaker 1: I want to kind of go all over the map today,
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Speaker 1: try to get to some folks you may have fell
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Speaker 1: through the cracks with their voicemails and their texts and
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Speaker 1: really kind of just no agenda. We can talk about
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Speaker 1: anything that we've been talking about over the last few weeks,
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Speaker 1: last few months. Let's go to the seven to one nine.
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Speaker 1: Where's that Colorado? This is from Sally.
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Speaker 3: Hi.
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Speaker 4: This is Sally from Colorado. I'm a little behind because
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Speaker 4: I just became a paid member. So I'm just now
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Speaker 4: listening to your after party about the list of the
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Speaker 4: thirty most.
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Speaker 5: Best writers, the songwriters.
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Speaker 4: That are still alive, and I just wanted to mention
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Speaker 4: that I think there's two things that are important. One,
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Speaker 4: I think who you think is missing has a lot
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Speaker 4: to do with whether you're a guy or girl. So
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Speaker 4: that's number one. And number two. As much as you
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Speaker 4: may not like Diane Warren, Diane Warren, I believe holds
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Speaker 4: the record for being nominated for the most Oscars and
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Speaker 4: not winning one. Okay, so you know, like eighteen or
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Speaker 4: nineteen times. So there's a reason she's on the list.
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Speaker 4: You mean, I like her, but there's a reason she's
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Speaker 4: on the list. Your show is uh may zing. I
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Speaker 4: can't even tell you how excited I am my found it.
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Speaker 5: Y'all, have a great day.
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Speaker 1: Bye, Sally, Thank you for your call. I was just
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Speaker 1: having some fun with Diane Warren. Not my cup of tea,
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Speaker 1: you know, that big pop stuff. But I completely hear you.
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Speaker 1: You said nominated for the most Oscars. I think you
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Speaker 1: meant nominated for the most Grammys, right, I think so
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Speaker 1: she's basically like the Suzanne Lucci. Was that that woman's name,
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Speaker 1: the soap opera star who would get nominated every year
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Speaker 1: or not win. And I think, yeah, Diane Warren being
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Speaker 1: nominated that many times, having that kind of impact that
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Speaker 1: she's had, despite my personal taste, you're absolutely right, deserves
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Speaker 1: a spot on the list. So I hear you, Sally,
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Speaker 1: and thank you for the kind words about the show
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Speaker 1: as well. Appreciate you. Appreciate the new listeners for sure.
21:55
Speaker 1: Appreciate the older listeners as well, who have been here
21:59
Speaker 1: since back in the day, Let's go to where are
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Speaker 1: we going to go here? Let's go to the three
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Speaker 1: eighty five and talk a little Food Fighters.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Jake, big fan, think about Taylor Hawkins. I've been
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Speaker 5: a big fan of Food Fighters for a really long time.
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Speaker 5: I've loved their music videos. I've loved every album, Deep
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Speaker 5: Cuts and all that blah blah and everything. And I
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Speaker 5: watched the documentary on HBO. They bought that album, and
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Speaker 5: I did everything short of see them. I never got
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Speaker 5: to see them. I never got to see Taylor, and
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Speaker 5: as a big fan of the Food Fighters, it was
22:37
Speaker 5: really disappointing. And I delved deeper into their stuff, and
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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, the reason Taylor Hawkins died was
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Speaker 5: pretty boring. It is drugs. That's it. That's my guess,
22:48
Speaker 5: you know, just of all the things they did. I mean,
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Speaker 5: they did all the drugs, and they got odd and
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Speaker 5: they sent to the hospital, and then they made a
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Speaker 5: documentary about themselves. Are at Peace?
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Speaker 1: Threade five? Appreciate the call, And I got to quibble
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I just my thinking here on the
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Speaker 1: he died from drugs, reasoning, why wouldn't they just say that?
23:13
Speaker 1: And again the reaction I think that you would give
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Speaker 1: me if we were having a two way convo here
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Speaker 1: in real life, you'd say, well, you know, they didn't
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Speaker 1: want his kids to know, his kids to know, they
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Speaker 1: want his family to you know, have to deal with
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Speaker 1: whatever the ramifications are, public opinion, blah blah blah. But
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Speaker 1: we live in a world where addiction is more understood
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Speaker 1: than it ever has been before. It's certainly more socially
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Speaker 1: acceptable as a disease and no longer seen as something
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Speaker 1: that you know, as the mark of somebody who's weak
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Speaker 1: or a personality defect or anything like that. And it
23:54
Speaker 1: just makes me think that, you know, if it were
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Speaker 1: a drug overdose, even if it were accident, you know,
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Speaker 1: even if he was like smoking a joint and have
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Speaker 1: like fentanyl honor or something, if that were the case,
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Speaker 1: they would say that. But they just have not. And
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Speaker 1: in the absence of a reason, there has to be
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Speaker 1: a different reason. I guess, I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Six one seven, nine oh six sixty six three eight.
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Speaker 1: You got any more theories on the Foo fighters, Hit
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Speaker 1: us up you want to talk about anything at all,
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Speaker 1: Hit us up voicemail and text nine to seven, Ozer
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Speaker 1: writes in on a popular popular subject. Here cover songs
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Speaker 1: on the disgrace Sand question of unlikely covers. I know
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Speaker 1: I'm late, but run River North cover of mister Bright's
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Speaker 1: Side is amazing. Starts as a kind of coffee shop cover,
24:40
Speaker 1: but then turns into an amazing string arrangement and some
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Speaker 1: great harmonies. It's beautiful. I think there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: covers of killer songs because they're the melodies are epic
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Speaker 1: and scope and they just they lend themselves to great interpretations.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the recommendation here. Nine to seven zero,
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Speaker 1: run River North. I never heard of him, but I
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Speaker 1: will check it out. My son, my youngest, is obsessed
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Speaker 1: with this song right now, so I'll look it up
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Speaker 1: and I'll play it for him. Seven to seven zero
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Speaker 1: Rights and Hey, Jake, it's Jake. The Sopranos is my
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Speaker 1: favorite show of all time. And I had an important note.
25:16
Speaker 1: When Chrissy and Tony Chrissy are driving and listening to
25:20
Speaker 1: the Roger Waters live version of Comfortably Numb. They're listening
25:24
Speaker 1: to it off of the Departed soundtrack, which I've always
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Speaker 1: found to be very interesting, especially considering the episode air
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Speaker 1: just a year after the movie was released. There's also
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Speaker 1: overlap between the two, as armand Garo plays Coco and
25:39
Speaker 1: Sopranos and plays one of the prominence gangsters who gets
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Speaker 1: this ass kicked by Billy Costigan in the Departed. Love
25:45
Speaker 1: the show, Keep up the great work, Rock a Rolla.
25:48
Speaker 1: First of all, the guy who plays Coco is one
25:52
Speaker 1: of the most frightening dudes to ever come on the
25:55
Speaker 1: screen in Sopranos, and I do record I do remember
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Speaker 1: him from Departed as well. Yeah, there's some crazy crossover there.
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Speaker 1: I just talked about this. I can't tell if your
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Speaker 1: text is if you're writing me in relation to what
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Speaker 1: we were just talking about, or if this is just coincidental.
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Speaker 1: I did not mention that the actual CD that Chris
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Speaker 1: Malta Sante is listening to in that scene in the
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Speaker 1: Kennedy and Heidi episode. Not going to spoil it. I
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Speaker 1: did not mention that it was a Departed soundtrack that
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Speaker 1: he's listening to, because I forgot and he reminded me.
26:28
Speaker 1: And I think he says something about it too, doesn't he.
26:32
Speaker 1: I think he says something about the soundtrack. I don't know, Jake,
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Speaker 1: let me know. Six one seven nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight Manny Bravo from the seven three to
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Speaker 1: two in the Rock and Roll Asbury Park, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: writes in I'm so glad that you were talking about
26:47
Speaker 1: Widow's Bay on Apple TV. It's such a great show.
26:49
Speaker 1: I've been telling everyone about it. Each character has done
26:51
Speaker 1: so well with a little background on each stories of
26:54
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, you're right, you're right, Manny. Was I
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Speaker 1: talking about Widows Bang? Or was Zeth in the Rap Party?
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Speaker 1: I can't remember. Back to the Sopranos with the five
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Speaker 1: six to two, we might have some clarity on this
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Speaker 1: on this Departed issue.
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Speaker 3: Here.
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Speaker 1: This one's from Celeste. She writes in, Hey Jake, I'm
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Speaker 1: a Sopranos super fan and I had to drop a line.
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Speaker 1: Christopher was playing the soundtrack from The Departed for Tony.
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Speaker 1: Christopher comments about how bad the sound system in his car.
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Speaker 1: It is fiddling with it. He takes his eyes off
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Speaker 1: the road, and the rest is history. Hm hmm ps.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the recommendation on DTF Saint Louis. I only
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Speaker 1: checked it out because you said it was good, Celeste.
27:31
Speaker 1: You You're welcome there, Celeste. I wonder if we're getting
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Speaker 1: other dtfs. The title makes me think we are a
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Speaker 1: DTF Saint Louis. Maybe they're gonna do like a DTF Chicago,
27:40
Speaker 1: DTF Boston. I'd be into that. This one comes from
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Speaker 1: the five three. Hello, new listener, Really love your podcast Disgraceland.
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Speaker 1: Just got done listening to the Kanye episode about bipolar
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Speaker 1: one disorder, and it really resonated with me because my
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Speaker 1: mom and my brother both suffer from bipolar disord order.
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Speaker 1: One suffers from bipolar two and the other from bipolar one,
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Speaker 1: just like Kanye, and I will say his depiction of
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Speaker 1: a manic episode is a thousand percent accurate. My brother
28:10
Speaker 1: will be okay one day, and then the next he
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Speaker 1: will think he is the next Messiah and that he
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Speaker 1: has to build the next Kingdom of God. Sorry for
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Speaker 1: the long text, but if Kanye really is telling the
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Speaker 1: truth about having bipolar one disorder, I feel for him.
28:24
Speaker 1: The saddest part is they don't think anything's wrong with them,
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Speaker 1: and then they think that once they're on medication and
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Speaker 1: everything's normal, they can just stop taking it and things
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Speaker 1: will stay the same. Appreciate the text five h three.
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Speaker 1: I've experienced with this in my family as well, with
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Speaker 1: my grandmother and my sister and appreciate the text. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about Kanye. It's a
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Speaker 1: really hard thing to talk about. It's a really hard
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Speaker 1: thing to think about. I hope somebody reads a great
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Speaker 1: book one day. All right, guy six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: o six six sixty three eight. Voicemail and text. You
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Speaker 1: want to hit me up anything, have at it. Now's
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Speaker 1: a good time. I'm going on vacation and going on
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Speaker 1: vacation for two weeks, so I'm banging out these after
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Speaker 1: party episodes. It's a good time to get in touch.
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Speaker 1: You might hear yourself. Six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: sixty sixty three eight. But you gotta do it soon,
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Speaker 1: more coming up. All right, we are back to Scraceham
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Speaker 1: pod at gmail dot com. I gotta clean something up here.
29:29
Speaker 1: I made a little mistake in that John Lennon episode,
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Speaker 1: which has been live for a while now. We released
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Speaker 1: it back into the wild with our rewind this past week.
29:37
Speaker 1: This email comes from Leslie Forton, who points out that hey,
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Speaker 1: the Freedom Rally concert for John Sinclair in your John
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Speaker 1: Lennon episode was not at Pontiac Stadium. I lived in
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Speaker 1: Pontiac at the time and never heard of such a place.
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Speaker 1: It was at Chrysler Arena in Ann Arbor at the
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Speaker 1: University of Michigan. Now, Leslie, thank you for this. I
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Speaker 1: messed up. I'm not trying to cast blame elsewhere, but
30:02
Speaker 1: I wonder if I read a mistake and depiction of
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Speaker 1: this venue in my research, or if my brain just
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Speaker 1: read Pontiac excuse me, Red Chrysler, and then I voiced Pontiac.
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Speaker 1: Either or possible. I'm guessing it's the latter. I'm guessing
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Speaker 1: that's what happened my brain. Just fritz there. I apologize
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you pointing this out. We got to
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Speaker 1: clean that up and that is something that we will
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Speaker 1: do shortly. Disgrace iPod at gmail dot com. I want
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Speaker 1: to thank artist Faulkner. Listener from doesn't say Here, but
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Speaker 1: he sends along a video with Henry Rowlands talking about
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Speaker 1: the new release from the Cramps. There's a new Cramps
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Speaker 1: release and I don't know what the hell that is,
30:44
Speaker 1: but we got to figure it out. I'm dig into
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Speaker 1: this rollin video. Thank you artists, appreciate you Emily L writes, ining, Hey,
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Speaker 1: you asked if there is something in music history. When
30:54
Speaker 1: we hear about it, it just makes us angry. Well, I'm
30:57
Speaker 1: gonna have to go with Live Nation and Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster
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Speaker 1: has been known to cheat Live steel and rip us
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Speaker 1: off for years and get away with it. Live Nation
31:04
Speaker 1: has lied their way out of so many lawsuits and
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Speaker 1: gets away with murder. These are two of the most
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Speaker 1: evil corporations right now in the music gedust here. Absolutely right, Emily,
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Speaker 1: I do not disagree. It's maddening. I love how Jack
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Speaker 1: Antonov is at the front of this conversation. I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: This is just insane. It's I don't even like getting
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Speaker 1: into it because it's one of those things I try.
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Speaker 1: I'm really hard as I'm getting older to not focus
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Speaker 1: on things that are making me angry. This is this
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31:37
Speaker 1: We'll entertain any topic. Actually that's not true. Make it
31:40
Speaker 1: about music and or a true crime. Sure fire away
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Speaker 1: to hear your email read all right, listen. Earlier somebody
31:47
Speaker 1: had mentioned that I recommended what was it, DTF Saint
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Speaker 1: Louis as another. Somebody else mentioned another recommendation I can't
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Speaker 1: remember it was. If you want recommendations for me on
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Speaker 1: the regular, they're happening in the Hollywood Feed in the
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Speaker 1: Wrap Party episode where myself and Zeth Lundy each week
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Speaker 1: give you recommendations. I give you music recommendations, Zeth gives
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Speaker 1: you film recommendations. Usually they're centered around some sort of crime.
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Speaker 1: They're almost always centered around whatever that week's Hollywood and
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Speaker 1: crime subject is that we're talking about in Hollywood Land.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Let's recap. We talked about
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Speaker 1: Iron Maiden today. Don't have an episode on Iron Maiden.
33:21
Speaker 1: I'd love to research one, though. They're a band that
33:24
Speaker 1: I there's parts of their catalog that I really love
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Speaker 1: and parts I'm not interested in, but I am interested
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Speaker 1: in the band in their history. We talked about Rod
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Speaker 1: Stewart and remarkably, we don't have a Rod Stewart episode either.
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Speaker 1: Of course, we mentioned Oasis. Check out those Oasis episodes
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Speaker 1: easily navigate to our Oasis episodes. It's that time. We've
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Speaker 1: get out of here, so let's recap real quick, shall we.
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Speaker 1: Number one this week, our episode on the Hillsborough disaster
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Speaker 1: You can check that out right now. A Number two,
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Speaker 1: right after this. Number three. Next week our new episode
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Speaker 1: on George Jones. Number four is that's going to give
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Speaker 1: Number six six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: Don't forget disc goes. This isn't just content. It's a community,
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Speaker 1: a community the obsessed, and no one cares about music, books,
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Speaker 1: records and the crime and grime that ties them all
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Speaker 1: together like you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right.
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Speaker 1: April fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine, that's when the Hillsborough disaster
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Speaker 1: went down, and this is what America is listening to
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Speaker 1: on that day. According to the Billboard Charts, number one
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Speaker 1: she drives me crazy. Fine Young Cannibals last week four
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Speaker 1: peak position one weeks on chart twelve, number number two,
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Speaker 1: You Look rock Set last week number one, peak position
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Speaker 1: one weeks on chart tes number three, four Like a
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Speaker 1: Prayer weeks on DNA. Last week last five, peak position
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