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Who Is Alyssa Pladl? The True Story Behind Husband, Father, Killer · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: Imagine making just the most agonizing choice a parent can possibly.
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Speaker 2: Make, right, the absolute nightmare.
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Speaker 1: Scenario exactly Like, imagine looking at your infant daughter, a
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child you carried and birthed and just love with every
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fiber of your being, right, yeah, and you realize the
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only way she's going to survive is if you give
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her away.
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Speaker 2: Just an incredibly heavy thing to even think about it
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really is.
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Speaker 1: You imagine handing her over the strangers, knowing you will uh,
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You'll never get to see her take her first steps or.
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Speaker 2: Hear her first words, you know, right, never.
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Speaker 1: Watch or grow up. You make this unimaginable sacrifice just
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to save her life, and you.
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Speaker 2: Spend the next eighteen years hoping and praying that.
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Speaker 1: She's saved, that she's happy. Yeah, And then eighteen years later,
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she walks back into your life, only to step directly
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into the very nightmare you sacrificed everything to protect her from.
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Speaker 2: It completely defines our basic understanding of how like causality
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is supposed to work.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how does that even happen?
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Speaker 2: Well, you make the ultimate sacrifice, You pay the heaviest
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emotional price a human being can pay, and the universe
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somehow just routes the danger right back to your doorstep.
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Speaker 1: We are getting into some incredibly dark, complicated territory today.
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We are looking at the story of Alyssi Plattle. She's
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the mother who actually lived that exact reality.
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Speaker 2: And if you look at the twenty eighteen coverage of this,
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it's just a staggering story.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the grooming, the incest, and a cross country murder
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rampage that devastated two families and left four people dead.
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Speaker 2: The headlines from back then they read like pure tabloid fodder.
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Speaker 1: They really leaned so hard into the shock value that
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they completely obscured the actual mechanics of what happened.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing when a story hits the news cycle
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with labels like you know, incestuous, murder, suicide, the general
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public tends to react with just sheer revulsion.
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Speaker 1: Right, They just immediately look away Exactly.
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Speaker 2: The sensationalism acts as a smokescreen. It prevents us from
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looking at the architecture of the abuse, which was I mean,
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it was meticulously built over decades.
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Speaker 1: Long before the violence ever made national news. Yes, So
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to get past that smoke screen, we pulled a massive
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stack of sources for this deep.
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Speaker 2: Dive today, we really dug into it.
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Speaker 1: We are drawing from the original court records, police reports,
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and contemporary news accounts from twenty eighteen, but the.
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Speaker 2: Core of what we are analyzing today actually comes from
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ALYSSA Plow's own raw, unfiltered interviews.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, from the immediate aftermath of the tragedy. And we're
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also looking at the context surrounding that recent twenty twenty
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six Lifetime dramatization of the case.
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Speaker 2: Right, husband, father killer, that's the one.
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Speaker 1: So our mission here is to look hard at the
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psychological mechanics of coercive control and.
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Speaker 2: The systemic failures that allowed this to happen in the
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first place, and.
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Speaker 1: Really chronicle a mother's desperate, decades long fight to protect
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her children from a monster who was essentially hiding in
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plain sight.
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Speaker 2: Because monsters rarely present themselves as monsters initially.
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Speaker 1: No, they really don't.
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Speaker 2: If we want to understand how a seemingly joyous adoption
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reunion ended in a multi state killing spree, we cannot
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start in twenty eighteen, right.
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Speaker 1: We have to go back.
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Speaker 2: We have to look at how a predator establishes a perimeter.
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We have to rewind to the genesis of this abuse.
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All the way back to nineteen ninety five.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this. Let's untack the landscape of nineteen
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ninety five.
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Speaker 2: Because it's a completely different world.
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Speaker 1: It really is. To grasp the mechanics of this, you
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have to put yourself in the mindset of the dawn
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of the consumer internet.
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Speaker 2: Right. There is no social media as we know today.
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Speaker 1: No smartphones, no apps. This is the era of you know,
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dial up modems.
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Speaker 2: Hying up the family phone line just to get.
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Speaker 1: Online, exactly, logging into these incredibly basic chat rooms. And
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in nineteen ninety five, Alisa Garcia is a fifteen year
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old girl living in San Antonio, Texas.
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Speaker 2: Just a normal teenager.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she logs onto one of these early chat rooms,
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and she meets Stephen Plow.
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Speaker 2: And Stephen is twenty years old, he's a legal adult, right.
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Speaker 1: And he's living in New York, which is like two
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thousand miles away.
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Speaker 2: The physical distance between Texas in New York is actually
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the first critical factor here. Oh so well, the sources
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detail how Steven subjected this fifteen year old girl to intense,
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unrelenting love bombing.
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Speaker 1: Now the sources use the term love bombing here, but
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I always associate that tactic with like cults, sure.
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Speaker 2: Or highly organized coercive groups.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, not some twenty year old guy just sitting
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in a chat room. How is a guy on a
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dial up connection pulling off a cult leader tactic on
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a teenager across the country.
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Speaker 2: The medium itself facilitated it. Love bombing involved overwhelming someone
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with signs of adoration and attraction, like.
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Speaker 1: Constant messages and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, constant messages, massive declarations of love. He was insisting
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that the two of them shared this soulmate connection that
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nobody else could possibly understand. Oh wow. It is designed
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to be completely intoxicating, and in the mid nineties, the
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novelty of receiving instantaneous written validation from someone across the
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country felt magical.
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Speaker 1: It totally bypassed the normal social filters a teenager would
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have right in her physical high school environment.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, Stephen weaponized that novelty. He didn't need to be
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a sophisticated cult leader.
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Speaker 1: He just needed to be the loudest voice.
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Speaker 2: Right, the most persistent, most validating voice in this fifteen
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year old's daily life.
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Speaker 1: I always think about early Internet chat rooms like a dark,
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unlit street in a strange city.
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Speaker 2: That's a really good way to put it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the danger is obvious in retrospect, but because
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the street was accessed through a glowing screen in a
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family living room or a bedroom, nobody realized it was dark.
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Speaker 2: Right. Parents didn't yet have the vocabulary or the understanding
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to tell their kids not to walk down those digital streets.
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Speaker 1: There was no concept of stranger danger for the World
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Wide Web yet, it just didn't exist.
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Speaker 2: And that glowing screen provided a dangerous illusion of physical safety.
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Alyssa was physically safe in her house in Texas, so.
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Speaker 1: The adults around her likely didn't perceive a threat at
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all exactly.
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Speaker 2: But psychologically, an adult predator two thousand miles away was
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systematically isolating her.
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Speaker 1: How does he isolate her from that far away?
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Speaker 2: Though? He was conditioning her to separate her emotional reliance
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from her real world support system, you know, her parents,
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her peers in San Antonio.
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Speaker 1: And transfer all that reliance onto him.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he created a closed loop where he was the
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only source of truth and validation.
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Speaker 1: And the timeline of this conditioning process is just deeply
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disturbing to me.
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Speaker 2: It was a very long game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this wasn't some whirlwind romance over a few weeks.
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This was a two year campaign of digital grooming, two
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full years. He spent two years molding her from afar.
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How does a twenty year old who matures into a
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twenty one and twenty two year old over this period
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convinces high schooler to completely uproot her entire physical existence.
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Speaker 2: Well, he achieve it by manufacturing a false reality where
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she believes she's misunderstood by everyone except him.
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Speaker 1: Wow, and why is the physical relocation the most dangerous
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threshold in this kind of dynamic.
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Speaker 2: Because by the time Alyssa's seventeen in nineteen ninety seven,
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the isolation is near total emotionally speaking, Okay, the physical
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relocation is the ultimate objective for a predator because it
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achieves absolute dependency.
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Speaker 1: Because she's cut off from everything.
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Speaker 2: Right, once a victim leaves their geographical support system, their
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escape roads just vanish.
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Speaker 1: So when seventeen year old Alyssa packs her bags and
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moves from Texas to New York, she loses her entire
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safety net.
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Speaker 2: She becomes entirely dependent on Stephen financially, socially, and physically.
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Speaker 1: The trap snaps shut the moment she steps off the
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plane or out of the car in New York.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and the digital fairy tale he spent two years
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constructing shatters almost the second she hits the physical reality
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of living with him.
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Speaker 1: The isolation morphs into physical terror.
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Speaker 2: It escalates incredibly fast.
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Speaker 1: The sources show a dramatic escalation when a new, incredibly
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vulnerable life enters the picture.
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Speaker 2: Because on January twenty ninth, nineteen ninety eight, Alissa, who
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is still just a teenager herself, gives birth to their daughter.
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Speaker 1: A little girl whom they named Denise right, and.
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Speaker 2: The introduction of an infant into an already coercive dynamic
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is a profound destabilizer. How so well in infant demand's attention, time,
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and resources, and those are things that abuser typically demands
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exclusively for themselves.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense, and the picture of the sources paint
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of their life at this point is just grim.
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Speaker 2: They are struggling financially, it's even cannot hold down steady work.
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Speaker 1: But the true horror is his reaction to the baby.
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He exhibits this explosive, just uncontrollable rage toward a newborn's crying.
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Speaker 2: Elissa's later interviews detail a level of violence that is
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difficult to process, but it is crucial to understanding the
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threat levels she was navigating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he couldn't handle the crying at all.
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Speaker 2: Stephen literally could not tolerate the sound of the baby crying.
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It wasn't just frustration, it was lethal potential.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa recounted how he would physically abuse this.
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Speaker 2: Infant, pinching baby Denise until her tiny body was covered
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in black and blue bruises.
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Speaker 1: Goes beyond bruising too, he would physically cover the baby's
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mouth to silence her, which is terrifying, and in one
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incident outlined in the police and court histories, he stuffed
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the infant into a cooler, an actual ice chest, yes,
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an ice chest, to the point of near suffocation, just
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to muffle the sound of her crying.
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Speaker 2: This represents a complete failure of an adult's nervous system
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to self regulate, paired with a complete absence of embassy
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you have.
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Speaker 1: A teenage mother entirely isolated in a new state.
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Speaker 2: Living in an environment where her partner is demonstrating an
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active willingness to kill an infant over noise.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa described living on eggshells, surrounded by the constant threat
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of yelling and smashed objects.
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Speaker 2: It was an unbearable situation.
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Speaker 1: So, when Denise is just eight months old, Alyssa makes
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her choice.
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Speaker 2: She decides to place the baby for adoption.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Denise is adopted by Kelly and Tony Fusco, a
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couple living in Dover, New.
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Speaker 2: York, and they rename her Katie Rose Fusco.
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Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I look at society's deeply ingrained
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traditional judgment of mothers who placed their children for adoption.
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Speaker 2: There is a heavy stigma there.
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Speaker 1: There is this heavy, unfair stigma of abandonment. But looking
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at the reality of Alyssa's situation, a teenager trapped in
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a house with a man stuffing a screaming baby into
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a cooler.
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Speaker 2: This wasn't an abandonment, not at all exactly. We have
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to reframe how we view these decisions in the context
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of severe domestic violence.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa told the Associated Press it was so hard to
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give her up, but I had to because I wanted
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her to live and be happy.
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Speaker 2: This is the psychology of psychological triage.
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Speaker 1: It's like being trapped in a sinking car. You realize
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the water is rising, the doors are jammed, and you
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only have enough oxygen left to push one person out
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the window.
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Speaker 2: That is a perfect analogy.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa knew she couldn't fit through the window herself. She
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didn't have the resources, the money, or the physical safety
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to escape Stephen.
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Speaker 2: But she knew she had just enough strength to push
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the baby through the window to safety.
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Speaker 1: She sacrificed her own life with her daughter to ensure
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her daughter actually had a life.
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Speaker 2: That is a highly accurate assessment of her operational reality.
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She assessed the threat level and concluded correctly that Stephen
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was a lethal danger to Denise.
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Speaker 1: So she chose to endure the lifelong trauma of losing
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her child so.
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Speaker 2: Her child would not have to endure the trauma of
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being raised by Stephen. It was the ultimate act of
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maternal protection.
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Speaker 1: And the part that makes this so deeply tragic is
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that the sacrifice worked.
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Speaker 2: It did. Katie Rose Fusco grew up.
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Speaker 1: Loved the sources contrast this horrifying, violent start to her
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life with the incredibly wholesome, stable life she lived with
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the Fuscoes in New York.
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Speaker 2: She became a vegetarian, She loved animals.
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Speaker 1: She graduated from high school in twenty sixteen and had
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this beautiful, ordinary dream of becoming an artist and drawing
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comic strips.
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Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: Alissa traded her own heartbreak to give Katie the chance
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to draw comic strips instead of living in terror.
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Speaker 2: The life Katie lived with the Fuscos was the exact
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manifestation of what Elissa hoped for when she made that
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impossible choice. In nineteen ninety eight.
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Speaker 1: Alissa successfully severed her daughter from the cycle of.
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Speaker 2: Violence, but Alissa herself remain trapped in that cycle for
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nearly two decades.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the sources track their movement down to Henrico County, Virginia.
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They stay together, and they eventually have two more daughters, and.
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Speaker 2: For years, Alyssa endures what she described as relentless emotional
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and verbal abuse.
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Speaker 1: When people look at long term abuse cases, the immediate
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question is always why didn't she just leave?
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Speaker 2: Right? People always ask that, But the sources provide a
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very clear mechanism for his continued control.
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Speaker 1: What do you do?
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Speaker 2: Stephen use incredibly graphic threats of suicide to keep her
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tethered to him.
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Speaker 1: Like he would threaten to kill himself if she left.
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Speaker 2: Worse, he didn't merely state he would kill himself. He
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claimed he would record his suicide and ensure the video
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was sent directly to her.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how does that specific threat function as
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a control mechanism? To someone outside the dynamic, it might
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sound like an empty threat or reason to call the police, not.
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Speaker 2: A reason to stay for twenty years, right, But it
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functions as a highly sophisticated hostage negotiation.
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Speaker 1: Where his life is the hostage exactly.
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Speaker 2: The abuser's own life is the hostage, and the victim's
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empathy is the weapon used against them that is twisted
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by threatening graphic, documented self harm. The abuser places the
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absolute weight of their life and the potential lifelong trauma
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of viewing their violent death squarely on the victim's.
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Speaker 1: Shoulders, so she felt paralyzed.
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Speaker 2: It induces a state of complete paralysis. The victim believes
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that if they take one step toward the door, they
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are basically pulling the trigger.
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Speaker 1: It's not a marriage. It is a psychological prison built
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on manufactured guilt.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but the control eventually starts to fray. By twenty
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fifteen and twenty sixteen, a messy divorce begins.
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Speaker 1: They are still living under the same roof in Virginia,
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which is a pressure cooker in itself, but.
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Speaker 2: The marriage is effectively dissolving.
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Speaker 1: And this is the precise moment the past comes knocking
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at the door. In January twenty sixteen, Kate turns eighteen,
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and like.
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Speaker 2: Many adoptees, she has questions about her origins.
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Speaker 1: So she uses social media to find her biological parents.
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Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is the intersection of modern digital technology
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and the primal human longing for identity. It creates a
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unique vulnerability.
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Speaker 1: Because it's so easy to find people now right.
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Speaker 2: When an adoptee reaches adulthood, the desire to mirror, to
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see someone who looks like them, who shares their genetic
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traits can be overwhelming.
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Speaker 1: So she finds the Plattles and they are thrilled. Alyssa
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and Stephen welcome her with open arms.
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Speaker 2: In August twenty sixteen, instead of heading off to college,
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Katie skips it and moves into the Plattle home in Virginia.
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Speaker 1: The photos from this initial reunion period show exactly what
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you'd expect, smiling, hugging.
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Speaker 2: The sense of a fractured family finding its missing piece.
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Speaker 1: Alissa finally gets to look at the eighteen year old
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woman she saved as a baby.
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Speaker 2: But here's where it gets really interesting. Stephen immediately begins
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to weaponize this reunion.
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Speaker 1: Yes, understand how Stephen engineered this betrayal. We have to
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ask you to explain this psychological phenomenon.
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Speaker 2: It's often discussed in adoption and reunification circles, and it's
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called genetic sexual attraction or GSA.
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Speaker 1: The term itself sounds alien and frankly, deeply uncomfortable to
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most people. Break down what GSA actually is.
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Speaker 2: It is uncomfortable. GSA is a documented phenomenon where adult
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relatives who are separated at birth or in early childhood
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meet for the first time as adults and experience an intense,
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overwhelming attraction to one another.
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Speaker 1: Okay, but what are the biological mechanics behind that.
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Speaker 2: I understand why this happens. We have to look at
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the Western.
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Speaker 1: Mark effect, the Western Bark effect.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's an evolutionary psychological mechanism that naturally creates an
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aversion to incest among people who are raised together from
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early childhood.
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Speaker 1: So, because you share a living space, share resources, and
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observe each other during developmental years, the brain hardwires an
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incest taboo exactly.
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Speaker 2: The brain says, we grew up together, so we are
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off limits because.
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Speaker 1: Has Stephen and Katy skip that entire eighteen year childhood
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bonding phase, That evolutionary safeguard simply didn't exist for them.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, they bypassed the Western Mark effect entirely. When they met.
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Katie was an eighteen year old seeking identity.
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Speaker 1: And suddenly discovering shared physical traits, shared mannerisms.
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Speaker 2: Right that biological mirroring can short circuit the brain. The
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brain confuses this intense sudden familial connection with romantic or
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sexual attraction.
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Speaker 1: We have to graw a massive, impenetrable line right here, though, Absolutely,
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just because GSA might explain a psychological vulnerability on Katie's part,
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an eighteen year old adoptee desperately wanting to connect, it
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does absolutely nothing to excuse Stevens's behavior.
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Speaker 2: GSA never excuses exploitation. Yeah, especially when there's a massive
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power age and authority dynamic.
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Speaker 1: Stephen was forty years old, Katy was eighteen, and.
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Speaker 2: More importantly, he was her biological father. He held every
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conceivable advantage.
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Speaker 1: He wasn't a victim of sudden attraction. He wrecked, recognized
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a vulnerability, and exploited it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, is the ultimate betrayal of Alyssa's nineteen ninety eight sacrifice.
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Speaker 1: She gives up the daughter to save her from the monster.
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The daughter finds way back, and the monster immediately hijacks
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the reunion.
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Speaker 2: Alyssa starts noticing terrifying red flags almost instantly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah she spots Stephen sleeping on the floor of eighteen
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year old Katie's room.
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Speaker 2: He begins completely ignoring his two younger adolescent.
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Speaker 1: Daughters just to focus all of his time, attention, and
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resources entirely on Katie.
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Speaker 2: The boundary Stephen was crossing weren't merely inappropriate. He was
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actively systematically replacing his disintegrating marriage with an illegal, incestuous dynamic.
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Speaker 1: He was grooming his own daughter.
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Speaker 2: Utilizing the exact same isolation tactics he used on Alyssa
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twenty years prior.
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Speaker 1: But this time those tactics were supercharged by Katie's specific vulnerability.
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Speaker 2: Right as a returney adoptee desperately seeking a father figure.
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Speaker 1: By November twenty sixteen, the environment becomes so toxic that
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Alyssa moves out.
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Speaker 2: She takes her two younger daughters, leaving Stephen and Katy
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alone in the house.
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Speaker 1: Then, in May twenty seventeen, the entire illusion of this
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happy reunion shatters.
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Speaker 2: Alyssa's eleven year old daughter finds a journal and brings
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it to.
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Speaker 1: Her mother, and the journal reveals that Stephen and Katy
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are sexually involved, and it reveals that Katie is pregnant.
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Speaker 2: The level of psychological manipulation required to maintain a secret
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of this magnitude in a household with other children is staggering.
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Speaker 1: And the sources indicate that the younger children had actually
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been told that Katie, their biological half sister, was their stepmother.
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Speaker 2: Stephen was literally rewriting reality, forcing his other children to
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participate in a delusion to justify his deviance.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa confronts Stephen over the phone, and I cannot get
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past the sheer audacity of this man's response.
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Speaker 2: It's chilling.
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Speaker 1: His ex wife discovers he has impregnated their biological daughter,
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and his responses, I thought you knew we're in love.
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Speaker 2: It demonstrates the chilling calm of a predator who leaves
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he operates entirely above the rules of human decency and
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the law.
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Speaker 1: He genuinely thought she would just be okay with it.
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Speaker 2: He has convinced himself of his own narrative so thoroughly
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that he expects Alyssa to simply accept it.
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Speaker 1: Well, Alyssa calls him sick. She points out that Katie
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is practically a child compared to him, and.
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Speaker 2: Alyssa's quote from this confrontation cuts right to the bone.
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Speaker 1: She said, I waited eighteen long years to have a
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relationship with my daughter, and now he's completely destroyed it.
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Speaker 2: Imagine the psychological torture of that realization.
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Speaker 1: You saved your child from a predator, and two decades later,
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that same predator manipulates her into his bed.
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Speaker 2: Alissa immediately takes action and reports them to the police.
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Speaker 1: But Stephen and Katie are completely undeterred by the exposure.
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They move out of Virginia to North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Then, in July twenty seventeen, they travel to Maryland and
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illegally marry.
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Speaker 1: They lie on the marriage application swearing under oath that
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they are not related.
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Speaker 2: There is a detail from the sources regarding this wedding
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that forces you to stop and reread it.
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Speaker 1: Katie's adoptive parents, Kelly and Tony Fisco, actually attended that
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wedding in Maryland.
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Speaker 2: The immediate reaction from anyone hearing this is shock right.
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Speaker 1: How on earth do the adoptive parents sit in the
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audience and watch their daughter marry her biological father.
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Speaker 2: It sounds incomprehensible until you look at the concept of
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strategic accommodation, or what some domestic violence experts call therapeutic alienation.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean for the Fuscos in this exact moment.
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Speaker 2: We have to look at the psychology here. Katie is
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legally an adult. She is eighteen turning nineteen. In the
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eyes of the state, she can go where she wants.
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Speaker 1: So the fuscoes are likely feeling entirely, terrifyingly powerless from
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a legal standpoint.
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Speaker 2: So if they refuse to attend, if they draw a
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hard line and condemn the wedding, Steven uses that rejection
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to sever Katie from them completely.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, abusers look for any excuse to enforce
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total isolation.
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Speaker 2: Exactly if the Fussco's alienator, Stephen wins, he gets to
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tell Katie, see, they don't really you, only I understand you.
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Speaker 1: So the Fiscos attending that wedding wasn't an endorsement of
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the incest. It was a hostage negotiation.
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Speaker 2: They swallowed their horror to maintain a lifeline.
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Speaker 1: They needed to keep a foot in the door so
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they could monitor her safety and be there.
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Speaker 2: When the illusion inevitably shattered.
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Speaker 1: In September twenty seventeen, Katie gives birth to a baby boy,
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Bennett Kiron Plattle, and.
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Speaker 2: The biological reality of this child is just.
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Speaker 1: A tragic not Bennett is Stephen's biological son, but also
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his biological grandson. He is Katie's son, but also her
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half brother.
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Speaker 2: It is at this point, with the birth of a
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child born of incest, that the legal system finally begins
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to close the net.
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Speaker 1: In November twenty seventeen, arrest warrants are issued in Virginia.
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The charges are severe incest with an adult, adultery and
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contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
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Speaker 2: By January twenty eighteen, law enforcement catches up with them.
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They are arrested in North Carolina and extraded back to Virginia.
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Speaker 1: They are released on bond, but the court orders them
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to have absolutely no contact with each other.
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Speaker 2: The conditions of their relief trigger a massive seismic shift
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in the power dynamic.
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Speaker 1: Stephen's mother is given temporary custody of baby Bennett.
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Speaker 2: And then we see the mask completely slip.
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Speaker 1: We see exactly who Stephen is when his own comfort
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is threatened.
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Speaker 2: They're both sitting in jail. Stephen uses whatever financial resources
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he has access to, and he posts his own bail first.
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Speaker 1: He walks out, and he leaves Katie sitting in a
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jail cell.
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Speaker 2: She is a new mother, she is actively breastfeeding baby Bennett.
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She is clearly struggling emotionally, and.
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Speaker 1: The man who claimed they were soulmates leaves her locked
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in a cage so he can go home.
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Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, the psychology
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of the mask slipping in narcissistic abusers is vital to
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understand here.
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Speaker 1: Why does a quote unquote loving abuser abandon the victim.
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Speaker 2: Because to the abuser, the victim never actually existed as
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an independent human being. The victim only existed as an
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extension of the abuser's ego.
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Speaker 1: A mirror to reflect their own power back to them.
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Speaker 2: The moment Katie became a legal life liability, the moment
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she ceased to be a source of comfort and control,
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she was discarded.
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Speaker 1: Alyssa pointed this out immediately. She noted that this single
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action proved exactly what kind of husband and father Stephen
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truly was, and.
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Speaker 2: It seems like being left in that jail cell, and
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during the shock of the arrest and the sudden separation
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from Stephen, it finally breaks the trauma bond for Katie.
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Speaker 1: She wakes up, she moves back to New York to
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be with the fuscos.
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Speaker 2: Steven violates the courts no contact order, trying to reel
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her back in, but Katie stands firm she ends the relationship.
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Speaker 1: Stephen is now forty three years old, and for the
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first time in over two decades, he is completely alone.
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Speaker 2: Domestic violence experts will tell you that the moment an
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abuser realizes the trap has opened is not the end
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of the danger, it's the peak.
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Speaker 1: This is the single most lethful moment in the entire
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cycle of abuse.
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Speaker 2: Stephen has lost his wife in Katie. He has lost
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his son Bennett to his mother's custody. His carefully constructed
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reality is collapsed.
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Speaker 1: Which brings me to a detail from the league proceedings
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that just infuriates me. That the lawyer who represented Stephen
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and Katy after their arrest went on record calling their
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relationship consensual right. The legal definition of adulthood at eighteen
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might make that a viable defense strategy in a courtroom,
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but practically and psychologically consent is structurally impossible in a
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grooming dynamic like this.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree.
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Speaker 1: You have a forty something biological father who has twenty
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years of experience manipulating women, dealing with an eighteen year
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old girl navigating the profound emotional vulnerability of an adoption reunion.
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He holds the biological trump card, and he holds the
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authoritative trump card. There is no consent. There is only
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compliance manufactured through psychological exploitation.
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Speaker 2: The legal framework often fails to capture the realities of
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coercive control. And when Katie withdrew that manufactured compliance, Stephen's
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decades old rage returned.
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Speaker 1: But his response wasn't grief, It wasn't sorrow.
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Speaker 2: It was to execute a sequence of punishment he had
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been harboring for twenty years.
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Speaker 1: This leads us to the horrific events of April eleventh
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and twelfth, twenty eighteen, the cross country rampage.
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Speaker 2: On April eleventh, Stephen Platt is at his mother's home
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in Nightdale, North Carolina.
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Speaker 1: He goes to seven month old Bennett and he smothers
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the infant to death.
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Speaker 2: It is so hard to even process the reality of
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a father murdering a seven month old baby.
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Speaker 1: We have to analyze the psychology of this act because
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it wasn't an accident.
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Speaker 2: We are looking at the psychology of familial annihilation. We
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must be incredibly clear. Baby Bennett's murder was not collateral
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damage in a fit of blind rage.
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Speaker 1: It was a highly calculated, entirely punitive act.
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Speaker 2: Stephen was destroying the child he created with Katie as
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the ultimate supreme punishment for her leaving him.
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Speaker 1: It mirrors the horrific abuse of infant Katy twenty years prior.
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Speaker 2: He couldn't handle the crying baby in nineteen ninety eight,
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and he uses the baby in twenty eighteen as a
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tool of ultimate revenge.
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Speaker 1: He is re enacting his rage from two decades ago.
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Speaker 2: But this time, because his control over the mother is
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completely severed, he takes that rage to its absolute lethal conclusion.
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Speaker 1: After smothering his son, Stephen gets in his car and
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drives through the night. He drives from North Carolina all
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the way up to New Milford, Connecticut.
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Speaker 2: On the morning of April twelfth, he spots Kelly and
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Tony Fusco in their car.
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Speaker 1: They're at a stop sign. They are doing something so
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incredibly mundane, so normal. They are driving Katie to her
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grandmother's house.
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Speaker 2: Stephen follows them. He approaches the vehicle armed with an
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AR fifteen style rifle and opens fire.
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Speaker 1: He kills Katie, who is only twenty years old. He
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kills Tony Fusco, who is fifty six.
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Speaker 2: Kelly Susko is wounded in the attack, but she survives
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to call nine one one.
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Speaker 1: Stephen gets back in his car and drives to Dover,
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New York, Katie's hometown. He calls his own mother.
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Speaker 2: He confesses to what he has done. He reportedly tells
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her he's next, referring.
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Speaker 1: To himself, and then he takes his own life. The
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police find his body in his vehicle after a massive
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man hunt.
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Speaker 2: When the violence finally ceases across three different states, four
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people are dead Bennett, Katie, Tony Fusco, and.
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Speaker 1: Stephen, and Alyssa is left holding the shattered pieces of
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two families.
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Speaker 2: She is too devastated and frankly too terrified to even
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attend the funerals.
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Speaker 1: She survived the unimaginable for a second time. You have
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to sit back and solemnly reflect on Alissa's foresight. Her
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maternal instinct in nineteen ninety eight was flawless.
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Speaker 2: She knew Stephen was lethally dangerous to a baby.
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Speaker 1: She saw the capacity for this specific type of violence
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twenty years before it fully materialized on a national stage.
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Speaker 2: Melissa gave an interview after the murders where she said
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something that just chills you to the bone.
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Speaker 1: She said, ultimately, Steve was just finishing off what he
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started twenty years earlier.
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Speaker 2: It is a devastatingly accurate assessment of the timeline. The
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timeline of this tragedy isn't twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen.
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It is nineteen ninety five to twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 1: It was a twenty year deferred sentence carried out by
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a man who refused to be denied total control.
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Speaker 2: In the aftermath, Alissa gave a handful of very raw
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interviews to outlets like The Associated Press and Daily Mail TV.
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Speaker 1: She expressed this incredibly complex, conflicting mix of emotions. There
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was a bottomless grief for the daughter she lost twice
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and the grandson she never truly got to know.
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Speaker 2: But there is also an unmistakable sense of relief.
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Speaker 1: That reaction relief mixed with profound grief is a very common,
28:21
though often misunderstood reality for long term survivors of coercive
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control and stalking.
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Speaker 2: We are talking about a nervous system that has been
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locked in a state of hypervigilance for two decades.
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Speaker 1: The psychological toll of an adrenal system constantly scanning for threats.
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Speaker 2: She articulated it perfectly. She said she no longer had
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to wake up every single day wondering, what if he's
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in the back of my jeep getting ready to shoot me.
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Speaker 1: The hypervigilance she had to maintain for twenty years could
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finally end her.
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Speaker 2: Brain no longer had to scan every shadow for Steven.
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The cost of that piece was incomprehensibly high, but the
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biological relief of knowing the predator is gone is undeniable.
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Speaker 1: During those interviews, Alissa also so it made a very
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specific plea.
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Speaker 2: She urged law enforcement and child protective services to always
29:05
air on the side of caution when it comes to
29:08
incest and adoption reunion cases.
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Speaker 1: This wasn't just the failure of one man's morality. It
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was a cascading failure of the systems around him.
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Speaker 2: We saw slow enforcement of incest laws because authorities were
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bogged down by the legal gray area of two adults
29:22
claiming consent.
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Speaker 1: We also saw a complete lack of robust safeguards in
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the adoption reunification process. And how do we even begin
29:30
to balance that?
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Speaker 2: Adoptees have a fundamental human right to seek out their origins.
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They deserve to know their biological truth, their medical history,
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and their lineage.
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Speaker 1: But how do we balance that right with the desperate
29:40
need for safeguards against predatory biological parents.
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Speaker 2: Right Because right now the process is largely a free
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for all.
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Speaker 1: It is facilitated by consumer DNA testing companies like twenty
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three meters or Ancestry, and social media platforms.
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Speaker 2: There's no mandatory psychological mediation. There are no required background
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checks before contact is a step.
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Speaker 1: It requires a massive paradigm shift in how society handles reunions.
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Speaker 2: We need systems that recognize the inherent psychological vulnerabilities of
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a young adult seeking identity.
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Speaker 1: We need protocols that flag histories of severe domestic violence
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or child abuse in the biological families past before direct
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contact is made.
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Speaker 2: The technology has outpaced our psychological and legal frameworks.
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Speaker 1: So what does this all mean when we look back
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at the entirety of the Elissa Plattle story, especially now
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with a lifetime movie bringing the raw details back into
30:32
the public consciousness. What is the legacy here?
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Speaker 2: Because for me, this isn't just a true crime procedural.
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Speaker 1: It's not just a thriller about a cross country manhunt.
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It is, at its core a story of unbreakable maternal love.
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Speaker 2: Alyssa tried to do the right thing every single step
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of the way.
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Speaker 1: She sacrificed her own heart to save her baby. She
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endured abuse to keep her younger daughters housed.
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Speaker 2: She reported the incests to the police immediately she screamed
30:57
from the rooftops that this man was dangerous.
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Speaker 1: The fact that the chance she gave Katie in nineteen
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ninety eight was ultimately stolen in twenty eighteen does not
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diminish the profound, beautiful love behind that initial sacrifice.
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Speaker 2: Melissa stands as proof that sometimes the absolute bravest thing
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a parent can do is to let go.
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Speaker 1: She gave her daughter twenty years of life, love, art,
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and happiness that Katie never would have experienced otherwise.
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Speaker 2: As we wrap up this deep dive into the source material.
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Think about your own digital footprint.
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Speaker 1: Think about the way we use social media to connect,
31:31
to reach out across the void to find people.
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Speaker 2: Think about how easily power dynamics can slip into those interactions,
31:38
unnoticed until it is entirely too late.
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Speaker 1: We have to be vigilant in recognizing the signs of
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coercive control, the isolation, the love bombing, the exploitation of age,
31:47
and power gaps, because.
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Speaker 2: As this story shows us, the loudest voice in the
31:51
room isn't always offering love. Sometimes they're just building a cage.
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Speaker 1: And that leaves us with a lingering, vital question to
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all over.
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Speaker 2: Live in a modern era where consumer DNA testing and
32:03
instant social media messaging make anonymity essentially impossible.
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Speaker 1: The reunification of adoptees and biological parents is easier and
32:12
more frequent than at any point in human history.
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Speaker 2: But of our legal systems, our family courts, and our
32:17
psychological support networks are still operating on twentieth century assumptions
32:21
about privacy and family dynamics.
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Speaker 1: Are we inadvertently setting up our most vulnerable seekers to
32:27
walk directly into the arms of the ghosts their adoptive
32:30
parents tried so desperately to protect them from.
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Speaker 2: It's a heavy question, but it's one we can't afford
32:35
to ignore.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into
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the source material Today, stay curious, look them beneath the surface,
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and take care of each other out there