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Live: What’s Next For Brent Venables As Defensive Coordinator for Oklahoma Sooners? · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: It's time for a new era. We're in the season
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  Speaker 1: So on today's episode of Sooner Later Sports Show, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dive into all the craziness that has been going on,
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  Speaker 1: like the coaching changing piece, and I've got a couple
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  Speaker 1: of takes on Brent Vinnables being in the DC. Coop's
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  Speaker 1: go to dive, of course into the added new defensive
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  Speaker 1: coaches and rumors about other movements, and then we'll just
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  Speaker 1: wrap things up chopping up with you all because it's
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  Speaker 1: been a minute. We've had about a two week break.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're back. We're gonna start prepping ourselves for the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season. Coop, Happy Sunday, man, I miss
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  Speaker 1: your face. It's good to see you man.
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  Speaker 2: How you feeling, Hey, I'm feeling absolutely terrific. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the weather is Oklahoma, so we are one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: here still in Oklahoma where today can be eighty and
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow can be snowy with a slight plants of earthquakes.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, pretty pretty exciting. But we get into
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  Speaker 2: trajectory season right now, consumer fan base is starting the
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  Speaker 2: upwards trajectory. Not so long, we'll have people going, well,
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  Speaker 2: hold on, we can win the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's wow.
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  Speaker 1: I am, I'm good. I've been down literally for an
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  Speaker 1: entire week, looked like for a full week vacation, and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I go on vacation right enjoy being disconnected. Then
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  Speaker 1: all the news drops from Brent Venables's decision. I get
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  Speaker 1: a text message as I'm about to hop on my
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  Speaker 1: boat and The text is like, hey, I need you
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  Speaker 1: to get on here and talk to me about brit
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  Speaker 1: Venables going to all Thanos. I'm like, man, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even available because I'm not around. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh well, dang, keep with me later. So hopefully I'll
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  Speaker 1: hop on locked on college football the next few days
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  Speaker 1: to kind of talk through a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a little old news. It's ill something
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  Speaker 1: worth talking about out here in the off season, but
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  Speaker 1: it has been I get back from vacation Coop and
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  Speaker 1: then I go to work on I get back on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. We're like, ah, it's super Bowl weekend. We'll
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  Speaker 1: let the super Bowl have its thing, because ain't nobody
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  Speaker 1: gonna try to jump off. Everybody watched super Bowl. Yeah, Monday,
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  Speaker 1: go pick up ten drop off some dry cleaning, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do some stuff on my son, and get home. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like a little scratch right here. It's a little scratch,
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  Speaker 1: like why is this scratchy? Why is this all scratchy?
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  Speaker 1: Then I go through four days of having one hundred
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  Speaker 1: plus degree temperature that was horrible. It's got the point
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't have a voice, like I was hoping
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  Speaker 1: we could have came back last Wednesday, because we could
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  Speaker 1: really have broke stuff down. I have voice, uh and
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  Speaker 1: I was basically laying in my bed try not to die.
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  Speaker 1: But the good thing is we're back. That's all that matters.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here healthy, You look good. We are uh satisfied. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you look good, feel good.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, hey, I gotta ask you though, you bring up
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  Speaker 2: you were on vacation. The cruise was cruises, dope, you
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  Speaker 2: get you. You had a good time. And then followed
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  Speaker 2: up with a little super Bowl super Bowl talk from you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Philadelphia kind of like hacked the They
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  Speaker 1: kind of hacked the game them. Uh, they pulled basically
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  Speaker 1: a Cincinnati with a lot of people. Don't get this,
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  Speaker 1: sins An. He does. But first we're gonna do this, Edward,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the fort ninety nine. We missed you too.
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  Speaker 1: We missed all of you. Coop missed you even more
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  Speaker 1: than I even missed you. And I missed you a
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  Speaker 1: bunch like Coop is fighting me for the level of
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  Speaker 1: miss that he felt for you all on this. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because because Coop is a sweetheart, that's why I.
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  Speaker 2: Ran a oh that I didn't go live where I
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  Speaker 2: just talked to you, and I just went back to
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  Speaker 2: the chats and uh no, but no, seriously though it
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  Speaker 2: is last Sunday. Then I'll let you talk super Bowl yesday.
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  Speaker 2: My wife. My wife says, are you guys gonna do
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  Speaker 2: a show? And I was like, I know. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna let it. Let it, let it,
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  Speaker 2: let it marinate. And she says, well, won't others like
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  Speaker 2: the people miss you. I hope not, but if they do,
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  Speaker 2: absence makes the heart grow fonder. And and so I
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  Speaker 2: will say this, the Chiefs will be trying a little
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  Speaker 2: bit harder for the Super Bowl next year because it
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  Speaker 2: ain't coming home this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because shout out to uh. Like I said, the
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles kind of hacked things them like the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: to where they would go out and just go get
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  Speaker 1: the players that played in like the playoffs. Like they
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  Speaker 1: weren't trying to find or sneak and find the sneaky
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  Speaker 1: good guy. No, they went to the schools and like, oh, okay, Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: you guys played here, Lsu, You've done that at Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: You've got these guys, we've seen you there. You know, Georgia, Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna take those dudes didn't even care. That was it,
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  Speaker 1: and they beat the dog out of the Chiefs. But
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  Speaker 1: this is also this game reminded me a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that Tampa Bay one because the Chiefs were that line
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  Speaker 1: was they were makeshifting it and you don't you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that against the defensive line. And then they got
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  Speaker 1: through with four so it was pretty simple. They just
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  Speaker 1: destroyed them on defense. And then jaylen Hurst did exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. The offense said that we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna let Sakwan Barkley Barkley beat us. So Jena
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  Speaker 1: Hurts went out there and I'll do it fine, like
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  Speaker 1: thing knows fine, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it myself. It's you know, you look back
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  Speaker 2: two years ago, Jalen probably should have won the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: Two years ago he had the one turnover, which of
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  Speaker 2: derailed their efforts. But you know, it's crazy. I heard
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people talking about you know, they see
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  Speaker 2: it be in a close one way or the other,
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  Speaker 2: but if it did get out of hand, they saw
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  Speaker 2: it in the in favor of Philadelphia, and so it's
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  Speaker 2: just crazy. But it just goes to show that when
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  Speaker 2: you have a have an absolute a hole in your
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  Speaker 2: a chink in your armor. I guess you would say
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  Speaker 2: that you would have to. You have to, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: have to be able to disguise that in the NFL playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: which is why I think, you know, we see teams
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  Speaker 2: like the Ravens continually struggle that you know, once it
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  Speaker 2: comes down to the playoffs. Gimmicky teams struggle when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to the playoffs because you're playing the best of
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  Speaker 2: the best, and they can isolate, and the coaching staffs
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  Speaker 2: can isolate and they can take those toys away. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what made Bill Belichick so great for so long.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't just Tom Brady, and it wasn't just you know,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Gronkowski. It was him having Tom Brady and Robert
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  Speaker 2: gun Cows and Randy Moss and Julian Edelman and all
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  Speaker 2: those cats. But then also he found the one thing
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  Speaker 2: that you wanted to do, and he said, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 2: And if you didn't have a black backup plan, you
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  Speaker 2: often looked silly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was what the Cheese biggest problem was
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  Speaker 1: is that they basically just said, look, we have Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: which gonna let him do everything and there's a limits
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  Speaker 1: to what any human can do, especially without protection. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I disagree with you on the Ravens. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they have a gimmicky offense. They just run down your throat.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to be gimmicky when now you
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  Speaker 1: do is running down people's throat. I mean, three years
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  Speaker 1: in a row, the leading rushing team. Their problem is
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  Speaker 1: their defense did nothing to help them. Also, they like
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  Speaker 1: turning the ball over at the wrong time, but the
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  Speaker 1: boy still stands. They love turning the ball over, but
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles did the opposite. They also found some market inefficiencies.
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  Speaker 1: You got Cooper de jon who went out there and
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  Speaker 1: got him a pick six on his birthday.
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  Speaker 2: At men's birthday and kiss and listen man, a massive
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  Speaker 2: massive baseball historian. Uh you know it's it's cute and
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  Speaker 2: funny that Cooper Dejene broke the color barrier again in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Uh be a being a white dude
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  Speaker 2: playing a defense back.
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  Speaker 1: And just we're to Jason Seahorn.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, shout out to Jason Seahorn.
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  Speaker 1: But I love Jason Shorn and that guy.
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  Speaker 2: I still watching Jason Seahorn. There was one time where
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  Speaker 2: he was playing coverage. I think it was on Ed McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just like that was just a that
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  Speaker 2: was just a dream scenario for for for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people out there. But no, it's it's it's just
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  Speaker 2: an absolute good game, you know, for for people who
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  Speaker 2: want to see football, because you saw football winning. You
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  Speaker 2: didn't see shenanigans. And I'm not gonna lie that that
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  Speaker 2: first offensive pass interference on Philly drive one, I thought
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  Speaker 2: that's not going to help the case for the for
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  Speaker 2: the officials, but it just kept on going and they
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  Speaker 2: it looked like the Chiefs were shell shocked right from
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  Speaker 2: the get go. And when you have you have guys
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  Speaker 2: like Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy, those guys got to
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  Speaker 2: get loose because somebody else is getting attention and they've
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  Speaker 2: got one on ones and they're in there and they're
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  Speaker 2: breaking them. And those guys, Uh, those guys just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: couldn't really mesh well with bat Mahomes. And like you said, Jay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you can have one really really good quarterback
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  Speaker 2: and they can take your team quite a far. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: when when when Pelly started wrecking shop with four four
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  Speaker 2: down linemen and just got to play with the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the Cats in the back. It kind of kind
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  Speaker 2: of just bad. So anyway, congratulations to Philly and and
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  Speaker 2: uh to Lane Johnson, Grant cal Katara, Jalen Hurts. You know,
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  Speaker 2: these are guys who had Sooner Sooner ties back in
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  Speaker 2: back in the day. Just just just absolute crazy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: to see samaj p Ryan on one side as the
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  Speaker 2: third down specialty back and Grant cal Katara as a
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  Speaker 2: blocking tight end. Just those are two bets I would
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  Speaker 2: have lost a few years ago when they were in
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  Speaker 2: Sooners jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, same, I would. I would not have won
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  Speaker 1: those at all. But the good thing is Sooner's won
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  Speaker 1: more Super Bowls, which is once again, this is what
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  Speaker 1: the third year in a row we had the most
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  Speaker 1: players in college football represented in the Super Bowl active
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  Speaker 1: and inactive rosters. Can't beat that, man, We keep sitting
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  Speaker 1: dudes to the league, So let's go. The good thing
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  Speaker 1: for the good thing for the Chiefs is now you
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  Speaker 1: know they can they can go back and search for
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  Speaker 1: more Bill beating bow guys and actually get them healthy
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  Speaker 1: so they can play. Exact a. Materier and Wanye were
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: both hurt, so they didn't get to play Unfortunately you
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  Speaker 1: didn't get see Blake Bell. She'd sign more Blake Bell.
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  Speaker 1: If you're still there.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember now Blake Blake retired.
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  Speaker 1: Blake did retire. There you go. That's why I did
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  Speaker 1: need to see him. But we can get that line going.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give it to Creed throw Man. He held his own.
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  Speaker 1: He's literally the only offensive woman that actually did something.
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  Speaker 1: It was so bad, so bad. It's like you saw
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  Speaker 1: the line in the middle just pushing forward and then
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  Speaker 1: all you saw was around it. It was just getting bad.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like all you saw was just murkiness
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  Speaker 1: in the in the in the pocket, and you can
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  Speaker 1: tell that Patrick was uncomfortable. So good job. Create shout to.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out to Bagman with the quote of the day.
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  Speaker 2: The Chiefs O L looked like Week three, Bill Beaten
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  Speaker 2: Boue coaching it out there, so uh just uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know they had tuning was he's a he's the right
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  Speaker 2: guard and I think he's been playing tackle for.
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  Speaker 1: A while and he is not a tackle.
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  Speaker 2: And again, some things can you can mask them in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the season, but in the playoffs, it's
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  Speaker 2: just they're gonna take away what you're good at.
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  Speaker 1: So yep, exactly, so speaking of taking what you're good
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  Speaker 1: at and everything. Now, some of y'all may not agree
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  Speaker 1: with this statement, but we got to talk about the uh,
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  Speaker 1: the the attempted poach once again of our coaching staff,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm gonna tell you yall now it's not a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing. Let's dive into that first shout out to
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  Speaker 1: code YouTube on fifty coop DeMarco Murray Penn State, My God,
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna lie tell you was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on the surprising side. Now let me explain where
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  Speaker 1: my surprise came in, and then I want to get
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts as to how do you think this transpired.
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  Speaker 1: But the Ohio State job made sense last year, and
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  Speaker 1: it made sense because DeMarco Murray's wife, my understanding is,
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  Speaker 1: is from Ohio, so she has family ties. I think
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati is what I heard. So oh because of that,
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  Speaker 1: that made sense for him to consider a job up there.
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  Speaker 1: Just you know, she wants to me close to her family.
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  Speaker 1: Boom he goes there, maybe even chance he ends up
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Sounds like DeMarco Murray's working just because
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  Speaker 1: he's bored more so than him just feel like he
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  Speaker 1: needs to coach, But I know he thoroughly enjoys it
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  Speaker 1: and he does a really good job with recruiting. Then
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  Speaker 1: Penn State populates and I'm just like, why he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: getting a raise. He's already making old what eight he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make eight hundred and fifty K this year? No,
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  Speaker 1: that's what he was already making. They'd already jumped him
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  Speaker 1: up from like two something when Ohio State came after him.
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  Speaker 1: But it made sense for Penn State to go after
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  Speaker 1: him because when they lost their running back coach to
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  Speaker 1: another day, they needed one. Instead, they took Stan Draythan
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  Speaker 1: which Stan is a really good recruiter and he's a
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  Speaker 1: really good running back coach, like really good. So they
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  Speaker 1: got themselves a good coach for that two headed monster
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  Speaker 1: in the backfield for them. But honestly, if I thought
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  Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray was going anywhere, I would have thought it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be the NFL. And I know it's interviewed.
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  Speaker 1: There's still one more. I think potential opening available that
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  Speaker 1: would make sense for him to go to possibly the
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints with Kellen Moore. But that one to
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  Speaker 1: me was just I was like, now, Penn State doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make any sense. Even though the conversations happened, it just
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  Speaker 1: didn't make any sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: What did you think, Yeah, Penn State coming in, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna obviously go after, you know, a big time
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  Speaker 2: running backs coach. And I think that the running backs position. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are some really really good ones out there, Drayton
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  Speaker 2: being one, you know, DeMarco being another one, Shark Choice
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  Speaker 2: being one. There are a lot of guys out there,
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  Speaker 2: But I think that just the way that that position
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  Speaker 2: is utilized nowadays. You know, I don't be don't be
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  Speaker 2: so surprised as if, you know, taking a good running
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  Speaker 2: backs coach from another top line university. You know that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was more about let me take one
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  Speaker 2: of your best assets away from you more than you know.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the guy that we really really wanted.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, DeMarco loves this place. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's coaching out of desire, not really necessity. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he's got more money than he's going to ever need
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  Speaker 2: he's now. I think that this past year he got
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  Speaker 2: like a two hundred thousand dollars upgrade and so I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's almost twenty five percent pay raise to get
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  Speaker 2: him where he's at right now. So, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the fans, let's talk from a fan perspective,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the fans really really annoyed at the
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  Speaker 2: continual running back rotations. It seems like something that's been
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  Speaker 2: a situation for I mean, going on from the you know,
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Brooks returning in twenty twenty one. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he hit them starting out Eric Gray and Kennedy Brooks
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  Speaker 2: and and just the tossing around of that. But it's
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  Speaker 2: it's he's good at what he does and he's, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, he's really really good at recruiting. So he's
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  Speaker 2: as of right now, he's here. I think it's one
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  Speaker 2: that you know, if he leaves, eh, if he stays eh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but he loves this university. He speaks highly
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  Speaker 2: about the university. He's a great ambassador. It also doesn't
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  Speaker 2: help that he was an offensive MVP, right you know,
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  Speaker 2: his last year in Dallas, So that doesn't never hurt that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you were one of the top running backs
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  Speaker 2: in you know, in your craft at a major university
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  Speaker 2: and then also for a very very prominent franchise in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, so pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I wouldn't expected him to leave Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: to go up to, like, like I said, Penn State
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  Speaker 1: for without the family. Times, like the Jim Knowles situation
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  Speaker 1: made sense. And honestly, you know, contrary to all that,
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  Speaker 1: like the reports and stuff that went down and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of do still believe that Knowles was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a Sooner if Tim Allen didn't get that job
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: at Clemson, like at the time, the Clemson job, I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the the Penn State job was not available in him
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: beca a Philly dude. Kind of made sense that after
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Clemson snatched Tim or times of Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it's Tom. If they snatched Tom out like while in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the middle of the night nobody knew it was coming,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: made sense. Oh okay, and then he was able to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: go back to his house, and so I got it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: made sense. I mean, he's a multi millionaire. Flying back
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and forth in a private plane is not that hard
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: for him and his family. So but yeah, I didn't
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: see DeMarco making a trip up to Happy Valley. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: expect the Marco to go to the NFL, though, so
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: that's kind of one job I'm waiting to see happen.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: But a coaching stuff in flux typically means good things,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you know, or it means something really really bad. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I think that it's just more of the same for
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: this fan base. Is you know, what is this year
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: going to look like? Because you know, if this year
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: goes off and and this team, you know, really really
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: just shows up and does the expectations that a lot
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: of us think, You're gonna have more coaches leaving because
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they're going to upgrade, They're going to be wanted somewhere else,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and uh, and so that's always going to happen. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: know that we still have some names on our staff
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that folks would help pack, you know, if they got
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the opportunity that they've been looking for. But as of
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: right now, I feel like, as of today, this coaching
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: staff is pretty much probably going to be a set
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and stone thing for twenty twenty five.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I agree, I think I think, yeah, I think there's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be no more changes on there. On the offensive side, whatsoever.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: But we did make some big changes on defense. We
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: added what Nate Drelling, you add Wes Goodwin with which
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that was anticipated at the minute that Clemson let him go.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It kind of made sense to get him as an
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: analyst and let them continue to pay his salary because
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: he had a buyout. And sooner Cowboy puts this out there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It sounds like this rumor may be true. We'll sit waiting,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: so there's an official announcement, but sounds like Kevin Wilson
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: maybe the latest edition as an analyst on the STAB,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: which is really dark. Good. You bring a veteran former
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: head coach of multiple jobs, didn't have the best runs,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but he still has the experience and he still ran
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: some really good offenses. He's ran some good offenses at
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. Bring him in, which is good.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's can beat it, and Kevin Wilson, I think,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you know again, let's wait for the same to go
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: official because announcing things early it is going to be
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: fun for you as a person on social media and otherwise.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But I really, really really believe that Kevin Wilson being
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: on the staff is a great deal. Number One, Brent
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Vinnables knows what he thinks, knows how he thinks. Kevin
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Wilson's guy that just you know, you see it in
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the NFL. You see in college football there are some
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: people who are just really really good at being a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: coordinator and they're just not phenomenal at being a head coach.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a bad maybe it's you know, I look
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: at a guy like Philly Phillies d C. Fangio uh Fano.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I believe was that the Bears, and sometimes you just
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: go to a you just go to a system or
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a situation that's just unwinnable, and you know, how do
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you what do you do after that? That can you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: can you take a step back and really just get
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: after it, you know from a you know, I think
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: a thought a well organized thought process. So I think
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that Kevin Wilson being on staff, you know, if this
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: thing does finalize and come to fruition, you know, yeah
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: he has been here or for a few days, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: about a week. That is Kevin Wilson. But this is
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a guy who hated Brent Vinibles you know when he
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: was the OC here because Brent vinnables through you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: two minute two minute intensity at him at all times.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And I also think Kevin Wilson has made some good,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: good ideas or I guess good decisions and bad decisions
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: as a coach, So he can help out a lot
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: with Brent Vnables when it comes time to just game planning,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: just being out there and as an analyst, you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he's not going to be stepping up over our buckle
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: for you know, working with quarterbacks or working you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: with the offense. So he's going to have that capability
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: to be a little bit more of a floater and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: walk around make sure that Beav is doing the right
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: things or I mean, heck, he might be the get
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: back slash. We got to take a time out. You know, hey,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: leave the defensive huddle alone type of a guy. So,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you know, we always talked about Nick Saban. When Nick
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Saban did you know his coaching rehab you know, uh,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you know ten step program with some of these guys.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you had guys like Bill Bryan who now
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: is leading is at Boston College. You know, you had
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian who's now you know, doing a hell of
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a job at Texas. So it's great, you know, this
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: works out whenever you can get great minds on your
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: football team, you take it. Especially great minds who are
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: really really good at their craft.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially ones that are seasoned, the ones that have
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: been you know, been through the ringer. Kevin Wilson spent
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: time here is the He was an offensive coordinator here.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: He's the reason why Sam Bradford got your Heisman trophy here.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That was his offensive coordinator. He left gets the Hey
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: coaching job in Indiana. There for a year year, few
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: years there for some years. UH didn't work out for him,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but he worked with Bill beat and Bow, he worked
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: with you know thet trail at the time. Didn't work
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: out for him, so he ended up getting in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Ohio State job and he was at Ohio State for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a bit, left there and took on to for the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: last couple of years, and it just didn't work for him.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: He's older. But the big thing for him was Kevin
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: bring Like you said, he brings that experience that I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: think will help a young Ben Arbuckle run the time
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: management piece on the offense. That's what I saw out
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of it when I saw the HighRes that. Okay, it
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: makes sense in hearing about it today that you bring
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: in you bring in a veteran like that they can help.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: They can help with that part of it. The time
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: management component's gonna be critical, especially talking on his flip
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: side of Brenventibles now being calling the plays on the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: defensive side. So I wanted brit to get himself a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator just so that he could truly step back
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and really run that CEO row. But since this is
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a do or die season, as we can you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: for lack of better terms, it probably makes the most
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: sense that he goes out on his own terms and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he goes out the one right running the ship, especially
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: on defense. That's the one place we don't have any
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: concerns bring going back a substantial amount of the talent
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: from last season. I mean, you lose out on your
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: main guy, and Stutsman sucks. You lose out on the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: safety and Billy Bowman definitely sucks. The athleticism was absurd.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Des Malone was fun and he did a really good
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: job zoning things out when he got out there, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you still got kipped out there. Kobe's gonna be helping
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: running things. Sam Almostigo's ready to step up. You pick
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: up a Kendall Daniels Kendall Adobe should be back and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you'll have a good chance of him playing corner. Gentry
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Williams and he didn't transfers. It sounds like he's gonna
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: be making a return. Fitz shoulders right him and Eli
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Bowen's going to be an elite set of corners with Dobe.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So not to go through every position, you brought back
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: majority of the talent that was there, plus some really
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: good young safeties that everybody's excited about. We watched them
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: hit people, and that's what y'all been wanting. People that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: can hit people, that can actually tackle, wrap up and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: level them to where you're getting those tackles for loss.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: There was a stat that went around not to long
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: ago that I'm gonna drop another video on sometime this
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: week now that I'm back with a voice and i
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: can actually talk for extended minutes on Oklahoma being one
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of the top teams and tackles for lost like the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: last two to three years. Coop, that's kind of absurd.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: The question is do people expect.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: That, you know, it's something we talked about early in
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the season, was the tackles for loss. We talked about
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it quite a bit last year too. So let's be honest,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: we talked about it quite a bit in the past.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I mean every single year that bad has been here,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: and and so the tackles for loss that has a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: lot to do with the defensive line was really really
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: good at making sure that they kept the linebackers clean.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And we talked about that at nauseum going into this year.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, you get defensive line with the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: younger names and the portal transfers and and then guys
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: just you know showing up this year, you know, like
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: an R. Mason Thomas and those guys put pressure on.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: They dictate lanes really really fast. We know what's going on.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: You know. From the linebackers perspective, you got Kip Lewis Uh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you got Danny Sutzman, you had Billy Bowman, you know RSJ,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: those guys Kendadby, you know earlier in the year. Those
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: guys look to make plays behind the line of scrimmage.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And so it all starts with Bates's crew, and Bates's
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: crew will be good again this year.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That's the good thing is that we brought back so
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: much of the talent that we really needed. I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: losing Dejon Terry as a graduate sucks. Losing those edges
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that are veterans sucks. But you're bringing in the younger
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: guys that we've been wanting to see. You've been wanting
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to see more Koye. You want to see PJ breakouts.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Just got to get healthy. But adding Marvin Jones Junior,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, to go along with our Mason Thomas Edroom
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: feels good. Why Gilmore we saw him, We saw some
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: shining lights out of him. You'll get more David Stone,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Now this is the year where I think they're just
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: gonna throw him the fire and say, hey, go make
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it appenboss. And I can totally see him doing it,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: so we The defense is not my concern. So now
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Brent Ventnable's calling the defense, my question is gonna be
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: how does it look on the balance on the offensive side,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: who's gonna help him out, help help try to run that?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I guess that's you could say, that's where youre
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Kevin Wilson comes in. And even the good thing too
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on the defensive side. That's kind of a where of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a Wes Goodwin also helps because Wes is not only
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a really good recruiter, he knows bv's defense and they
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: worked very well together. That's how Clemson had those on
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: those top defenses. Now, Wes could not replicate that by himself,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: but it's probably because he needed that additional mind to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: help filter through what made the most sense in certain plays. This, this,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that and the other. And so I think that that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: him and Bev working together with Brandon Hall as well,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you know with Bates the lie right, and then you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: bring it in Nate Drilling, which a lot of people
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: weren't very excited about it, but I'll tell you this
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: pretty excited. You bring a young young guy in that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: everybody in coaching circles are talking about saying, Oh, he's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be something special when he as he grows. That's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: actually a pretty good hire, especially if he can recruit.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: That's what we've got to see. Now. We'll see this
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: year what his capabilities at recruiting is. Even though luckily
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Wes is a really good recruiter. Again, I mean, even
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: with the Sammi Brown situation, he had a lot of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: go look at his track record on two four seven
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on the players that that dude was recruiting. Just go
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: look at the players that dude brought in. That Wes
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was a part of either as a primary secondary. On
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: two four seven, he had like, I would pull it up,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna fight with anything today just because
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: of our first time back in a couple of weeks,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and I don't want a jinx any But Coop Godwin
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: was bringing in some dudes at Clemson. He's just got
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to now do it here, He's got to replicate it,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and I think it can happen. You know, it's.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Crazy's a lot of people talk about Dryling and Goodwin
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and they go, well, we were going after Gym Knowles
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and said we got two dudes out of the rack
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: up by their cash registers. Who you know, people are
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: just trying to get rid of. Well, no, not necessarily.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I think that Clemson was trying to hold on to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the BV stuff way too much. Yeah, and I'm not
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and I don't know it right off the tip of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: my tongue, but I want to say somewhere between like
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: twenty eight and thirty eight overall defense rating for Clemson
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: this year, So it's not like they were terrible. You
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: know if prior to this year, I mean, we would
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: have taken that defense in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen BJ
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You know, so everybody would have taken that defense. So
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know there's that the driving one at I'm not
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: gonna lie. At the beginning, I thought if you get
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: him as like a yeah, but we got him instead
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of Jim Knowles, Like, if you're looking at that, that's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: not it's not the same situation. Jim Knowles is a
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: situation where if you can make that happen, you add it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Because of what we said at the beginning of the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: show is if you can add a big time coordinator
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: or a big time person with great clout and everything.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But it didn't happen, so you get Driveling Dryling went
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: out and he was the author that defensive you know
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: show that they put on when they went down to Auburn.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Was it two years ago?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, when New Mexico State went in.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: There Auburn in their crib and you know it was yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: held them down to ten. So I'll say this is Driyling.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: If you look at last year, he was last second
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: kind of just thrown in as the head coach at
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: a bad program and didn't look great. But I'm just saying,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that if you take somebody who's not
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: ready for a position and to toss him in there,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: especially when they don't have a lot of you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: opportunity around him, there's a reason why the previous guy
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: got you know, gets canned. So what is it going
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to be this year? Well, first and foremost, I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: think that the calling the play is the defensive side.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: It's not like the offense to where you have you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: just you know, twenty five thirty five forty five different
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: play calls that you are trying to filter in, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in the first quarter, like you run your base defense
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and you point things out and you see things. So
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as BV calling the defense and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: getting the defense ready, and this just from this whole perspective,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: most of this stuff is going to be you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Sunday through Friday. That's where that's where a lot of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: the BV stuff is going to come in. And he
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: can really float a little bit more and you know,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: it's not going to be like he is like calling
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the offense. Calling the offense is a full time focus. Uh,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you You're you're probably calling different plays quite often and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: so this defense also, this is a very very very
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you know senior Layden, I guess older defense, now, not senior,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: but older defense where you've got guys like R.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: S J.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Who has now been in the system for Is this
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: his fourth year? Uh yep, this will be his fourth year.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Uh. You've got leaders.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so many guys over there. And you know, I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: wrote a story for for John over locked in. You know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: we'll find out if he gets published, right, but wrote
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: one for him. And just like the talk points around
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: what this defense is going to have is I think
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna need a verbal leader is going to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: need to pop up, and Kip Lewis is who he is.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I also think that don't don't sleep on Kobe McKenzie
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: being a big time leader. You know, Kendall Doleby coming back.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: You know, he's a lead by example guy. RSJ. Gentry.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: A lot of these guys have been around for a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: long time. And so the defense is going to be
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: just fine and you won't need You're gonna have a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: lot of dcs out there on the field, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: for any given snap.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Agreed, your goal here is to keep continuity going all
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball just like you did
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: last year. I think they will be able to I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: don't think we'll have any questions. Like suit a Cowboy
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: asked some good questions here, I got that one for you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: On OU's defense finished last year in total defense, so
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: coop to your point, Clemson finish last year twenty eighth
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in defensive efficiency based upon ESPN's efficiency rating. Their total
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: defense was sixty ninth, so they gave us some yards.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Suitor Cowboy, suitor Ou nineteenth in total defense, nineteenth total defense,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: three hundred and eighteen. We were one of the tops
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in rush, which I can get you that in a second.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: But compared to ash year, I mean, well the season
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: before that, buddy, it wasn't it wasn't very good. Look
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: at twenty twenty three, real quick, just so I can
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: tell you how nasty of a difference that was. And
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: look as we talk about it, seventy ninth, Yeah, seventy ninth.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: A pretty big jump. But yeah, it's we gave up
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of yards. And this is also with our
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: offense doing doing nothing with no support from the offense,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and how many different times you know, and in the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: SEC I would say this is if we were at nineteenth.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I would say, like, let's let's you know, double that down.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: If we played the SEC all year long, we'd have
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: probably been in the forties, you know, with the way
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: that our offense was incapable of assisting. So I just
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I'll go this is you have the offense just not
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: hand the ball right back over time after time after
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: time after time after time. And by handing the ball
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: back over, I'm counting three and outs. I'm talking fumbles.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about next play turnovers. The defense gets quite
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a bit of a break, and you know that's the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna see this year is now, this
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: defense is gonna be led by a kid who literally
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just runs around like his hair's on fire every second
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: of the day with Kip Lewis, and so you need
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: if this defense takes after him, you're gonna want the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: offense to support too.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree, you're gonna want that. But
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I think that well, we'll see the compliments. And it's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: funny because I'm starting to see more and more as
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: people are putting together their their previews for the year,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the one major talking point that I'm seeing is everyone's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: talking about the r buckle Mateir Combo. So that's becoming
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a big conversation piece, and we'll talk about that a
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: little bit more in just a minute. But the key
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: thing is is adding Nate as well as Wes in
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: your linebacker room like that. Like I said, I see
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: how good of a recruiter Nate can be. And I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: think Wes will probably be an analyst, probably for a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: couple of years since he has that buyout. There's no
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: reason for anybody to allow there's no reason for Oklahoma
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to pay him if they can just let Clemson keep
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: paying them. I mean, based upon his contract, he's not
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he's required to get a job, but he's not really
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: required to take a I mean, analyst job is a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: job basically had works. He's in his contract, he's good.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: So and Jay, you're you say that say that part again,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: because I think that's what realizes you're paying him a
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: very very minimal fee as an analyst while he's catching
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a cool meal from Clemson. And so, I mean all
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: parties involved outside of Clemson are probably like, yeah, analyst
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: seems like a pretty good role for you, sir. You know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: because if you've got somebody who is a you know,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a CEO, for one company and you can come, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: give him to come consult for you for you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: eighty bucks an hour.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Do it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's way to go.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you take advantage of that. And Wes is going
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to still get his money because it's they're contractually obligated
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to pay the man. And because they gotta pay Wes,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he isn't He didn't need for additional money because basically,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: whatever we're paying them, it's subtracted from what he's old
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and that's how his his salary is kind of calculated.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: So it kind of offsets. But no, if you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: we we we've beaten this dead horse numerous times. But
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: at the same time, Hey, Jimmy, good to see you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know how far into the show you are,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: but we've talked about that. Sounds like Kevin Wilson is.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But you know what, as we talk about Kevin Wilson, Coop,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: let's jump into that offense. But first shout out to
• 39:14
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• 39:17
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• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you know what's interesting about the Kevin Wilson piece. Now
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I think even more and more we talked about, you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: a Heisman trophy that happened underneath Kevin Wilson. You just
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: added in, Matear you bring into our buckle. You're bringing
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a coach that's been around some Heisman trophies, helped build
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: some of the best offenses in college football. Coop, is
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: there a possibility here?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Vegas thinks, So listen, if you come in and to
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma and you become a competent quarterback and even look really,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: really good, your name is going to be in the mix.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Especially pre season. I think that we're gonna see some
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: We're gonna see some pretty cool stuff.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: SEC is turning over. It is one way or the other.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: It's turning over quite a bit of stuff.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: The leading You're gonna have nus Meyer as the kind
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of leading guy returning to you know, to the conference,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and that's gonna that he's going to be probably your
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: first team All SEC guy.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And then it's and then it's a lot of guys.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: We're gonna be facing six new quarterbacks and I literally
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that excites me about this. For our defense, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I was excited about this past year. A tier has
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the chance of coming in and you know, he he
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: knows the system, he knows how to do things when
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: things break down, And I think that I can get
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: more into that at another time, but I think that's
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be his biggest area of opportunity is when things
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: break down against Stanford, it looks a little different than
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: when things break down against Auburn or Alabama or Ole Miss.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna get a chance to see
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: him make plays. And I think it all starts with
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Week two. Michigan's gonna become and be regarded as a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: good defense. If he goes out and charge, you know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: carves him up, you know the it's still gonna be
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a good defense that just needs some time to you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: break in some new new starters. But he's gonna get
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get that right from the get go. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna he's he's gonna have. I don't see, oh,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you having one or two guys at like fifteen hundred
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: yards receiving or a two thousand yard back or anything
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: like that. I see it as a full team complement
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and you're going to see and I'm not I'm not
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: putting in comparison for Jeometerier on the next name that
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, So please don't be like, well, hey, Coop
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: said he's going to be the next Patrick Mahomes, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you look this year.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Patrick Patrick Mahomes that it takesas tech.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Though oh no, no, no, NFL Patrick comes like he
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't have He's not going to have a five star
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: receiver that's leading you know, the country and mentions. He's
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: not going to have a guy that's up for the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Doak Walker. He's going to have a bunch of guys
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: who you know, remind you of Lee Morris, a bunch
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of guys who just are are guys who just show
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: up in good times. And I think that with the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: new crop of guys, the guys coming back from injury,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: he's going to this offense is going to go as
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Jeometerier runs, and I think that he's going to be
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: kind of holding all the offensive statistics himself. I don't
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: think he's going to have to share it, like I said,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: with a you know, fifteen hundred yard receiver or anything
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: like that. Now i'd love to say I'd love to
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: say that, but yeah, I think Matier has the chance,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and if the team can get to nine or ten wins,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it's a better chance. And he's going to be going
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: up against a lot of guys with arch Manning. Uh,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: He's going to be going up against you know, the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: quarterback whoever it looks like it's going to be at Michigan,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Jackson Arnold. There's going to be a lot
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: of conversations around the quarterback matchups this year for John
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Matier and for the Sooners, and those are only those
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: are only going to help.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree. I'm I'm really curious two
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: how Matier is doing right now with those wide receivers
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: as they're training together. I know that when the workouts
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: are happening, you see pitches and videos everybody you see.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: You see them at all the games for all the
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: other sports. You see them being supportive if you feel
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: like you see a lot of leadership there. I'm curious
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to see how the workouts are going. So, oh yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: good job Steven, Good job Stevie got himself a four
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: point zho steal. Oh man, love my college students hearing
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: that y'all are putting up great grades. No, it's it's
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm wanted to say, I'm curious to hear. I haven't
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: really read anywhere in detail at least about how well
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: they're doing in practice practice yeah or not really you know,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: organized practice, but more so player to player training sessions,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: passing practices and stuff. Haven't heard a lot. But that's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the one thing I'm most curious about. So we'll probably
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: get some sort of reports here over the next couple
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: of weeks. Things are starting. You know, things are gonna
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: get extremely cold and gross. But as we prepare for
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: spring practice, which is what right before spring break, I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: think it's the week before is when they start. I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: think they start a week, they get spring break, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: then they go full in up until spring game, which
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: is April twelfth. Speaking of which you think we're gonna cancel.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Ours, well, I mean kind of based on what you're saying, Jay,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: is the spring games are no longer. It's no longer.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: How it wasn't very very long ago that we had
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: what was the people wanting to cancel a spring game
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: or you know, not do it so people didn't know
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the plays, and now nobody cares about that. You know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: there's never gonna be situations where coaches are leaving playbooks,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not that this has ever happened at Oklahoma, but coaches
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: leaving playbooks out for other coaches to find them or
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: anything like that. Like it it's now like we don't
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: want people to see the the guys coming up, and
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: now it's more about tampering, because you know it's not
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: they're not going to come for a oh you know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: if you if you got a stud tight end, I'm
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: gonna just throw it out. You know, You're not gonna
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: come for a you know, a Travis uh, Travis Kelcey.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: You're going to come for the guy behind him if
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: he looks really good, because you want to be able
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to speak to that. And so I just you know,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I personally think that we'll still probably have it. I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: think it's probably gonna be a very very pair down version.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But you know, with with this, you got guys who
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: are wanting to get out there and uh, you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: shout out to coach Dent grid Iron inside if you
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: guys haven't checked him out, go check out him. This
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: is uh you know, he he is the father of
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: of of one guy that is going to be playing
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: his tailoff in front of that crowd for the spring game,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: and he is gonna want the coaching staff to see
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: he's ready to take some snaps away from someone else
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: or to take a starting spot. And that's who people
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: are afraid of losing. They're afraid of losing that guy
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: right behind the other guy. And I haven't seen anything
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: yet that makes me think that OU is going to
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: be heading that way, but I would say, I would say, yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty guessing that we're going to probably still have
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: the spring game. It's going to be more about the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: events with the spring game, and that's going to be
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: more of a glorified walkthrough than we've probably ever had,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: because yeah, it just seems like yesterday that we were
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: down in the pit talking to you know, coach Dent
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and then talking to talking to Signior Boganowski right when
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Mike drilled about our sharp after the whistle got blown.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And I mean, those are guys that are you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: could make a difference in a team, you know, a
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: big time player who's probably not going to be a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: big time player. You know, Here's that's what every coaching
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: staff is looking at. There's looking for it.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yep. Another question about Kevin Wilson. We'll let you catch
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: up with the show. Hopefully you're catching up. But yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we've talked about Kevin, so definitely, definitely, And Bagman cracks
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: me up. You say we need a team full of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Williams. Is only two of those.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: It's one Jeremiah Smith and this one Ryan Williams. It
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: just don't exist. They don't grow on trees. You just
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: gotta get lucky enough to find when it catch one.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: But to be honest, there's one that I think could
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: be close. E t really good. I watched him there
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: at Chakota Coop. You may got something dumb. We need
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to go through all of the true freshmen. We'll go
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: through the class again, just kind of who we think
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: will jump out and everything. We'll do that in a
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: little later episode. Let me add that to the notes
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: because I think that that's a good it's a good
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: topic for down the line. But I want to jump
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: real quick on the fact that teams are trying to
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: poach our guys. You all should be flattered as fans
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: of this team that you've got other staffs trying to
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: take your coaches. Yeah, that means that people want them.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: We've got one and everybody wants to be gone, but
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody wants to touch the buy out.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And it's okay because I also believe that the offensive
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: coordinator likes him and wants to keep them. You may not,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: but I think he does. And that's kind of where
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: things kind of yeah different. So the probably another year
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: before you'll see a as have changed there. Yeah, that's okay,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: not even gonna complain, Yeah, because I don't see a
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: problem with it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And the reason why we say this is because there
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: is a significant amount of quality here on this team
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: from a coaching standpoint and a player standpoint, and so uh,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and Bagman just said it. Nobody wants to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: hit up Joe John. We need you guys to get
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: out there and spread lives about how good our tight
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: end room is so that somebody comes and that comes
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and gets him and just I don't know, start something
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: like that, but you know, I think about this way
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: is how it would it would be different if there's
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: like zero people coming after any of our coaching or players.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: You know, you know it's if you're coming after a player.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at a Tulsa anytime. Tulsa. Now, since
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: who's the kid who's a first round draft pick linebacker
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Cheetah on Arizona out of Tulsa. I always forget the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: kid's name. Somebody helped me out in the chat. But
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that you know, guys like that finishing out their career
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: at a place like Tulsa, it's going to be few
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: and far between. Now.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: He just transferred to Arizona.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's been an NFL for three or
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: four years now.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Oh oh to my Isaiah's not Simmons from from Tulsa. Yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: who's with the Cardinals?
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys, nobody, nobody's got it off the top
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: of their head.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: But look at the roster real quick, and I'll tell
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: you to keep going.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I can, I like, I can hear the Sports Animal
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: radio uh sound bites you know for him. But but
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you know, he was a kid who obviously was the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: first round draft pick out of Tulsa. Yeah Collins Xavier Collins.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Collins Collins Collins.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: And so thank you Stevie.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: He's really good.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really you know, when you've got like one
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: or two guys, they're gonna come get them. That is it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna come get your guys and so, uh,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I made a comment that you know, people
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: were hitting up some of our defensive players, I mean
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: middle of the season, Hey, just in case yet wanted
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: to look around. You know, we're gonna be needing somebody.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And and so that stuff's going to do, going to
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: continue to happen, and it's it's not going away, and
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: it's going to get worse over the next couple of years.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And I think that the collective bargaining stuff and in
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the paying the players, like, I don't know if that's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: going to eliminate that piece there, but it's good to
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: have people who want some of your staffers, especially when
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: it's NFL and then other higher performing. Now if like
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: you know, take a shot at anybody specific, but I
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: mean if Texas State comes after and says, hey, we
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: really want to hire your you know, wide receiver coach,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: it needs to be like a of course you do,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: but that and that ain't happening, you know. But when
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: it's a Bama in Ohio State at Penn State anything
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: like that, like, yeah, that's that's good for the program.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny you mentioned Zaman Collins. I think
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's a very interesting person to point out because
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: he's an example of you gotta be careful of how
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you judge players coming from certain schools, right. I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he's at Tulsa. He won all of these national awards,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: but he played at Tulsa. Serybody, he's like, oh, he's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: probably not even that good. Now he's four years into
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a career in the NFL and he's still going. Yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: it's one of those You've got to just let the
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: evaluators see if they can get the potential out of
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the player. Because he was a three star coming out
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: of Homony. You know you six four to two twenty
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: was not that big his his recruiting profile. He didn't
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: have anybody after him. He was a he was ranked
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: on the two fourth having composite twenty one hundred and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: forty three, number twenty nine in the state of Oklahoma.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: But he gets himself drafted at the NFL.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And number twenty one in Oklahoma is kind of like
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: being somewhere in the two hundreds down in Texas. Like correct,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: in specific years, it could be even worse than that.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Past couple of years, we've had good years, but yeah, it's.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: You're gonna finds that a hungry man, Yeah.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: You got Because again, what happens when you get a
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: coach with a big name and you know, trying to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: prove it and they've got that one paycheck and now
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: you know they're they're bouncing again, they're moving again. Is
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: it because it's hard to follow up when you are successful,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: you know, whether it's real world or whether it is
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: in football, when you're successful. That's why they call the
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: thing the sophomore slump is is you know, you get
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: somebody who comes in and balls out and does a
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: really really good job, and it's hard to follow that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: It's hard to follow that because you could do the
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: same exact job and it not be seen as good.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: You know, you told good job all year long, and
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: then you get to you know, do the same thing
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: the next year and they're like, hey, so what are
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: your plans? Where do you want to go? You know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: is there any chance that you want to leave the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: campus so that we can bring somebody else in. You know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: those things happen, and you know you're going to see
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it more and more with some of these players, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: because you never know who who's going to be the
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: transfer guy that really just really just balls out you know,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: you look at the Herd kid, the tackle that went
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: to Tennessee. You know, probably the number one guy that
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: we felt like we missed out on and early in
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the season said that could have changed our season. I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Tennessee fans were clamoring over him.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: By the end of the season, he was. He was
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Caden Green. Same situation. You know, we lose Kayden Green.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: He goes to Missouri, He's going to have these big,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: big opportunities and big ideas. It ain't happening. You know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that guy's moved around positions several times, got benched a
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: couple of times, and is still looking to kind of
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: recapture that hope and that that trajectory that he had
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: here early at OU.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Agree, he just didn't work out the way he won.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling up his his his what your grades right now?
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: His uh grades over here on PFF because I'm truly
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: curious to how he finished on the year. And oh gosh.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: That was the team was pretty bad on defense, not
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: not very good.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: The Lance finished his grade as a blocker past blocker
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: was a sixty one. Run blocker was forty one. He
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: was bad. Majority of the year. Wow. His only good
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: game was a he had a really good game against
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: North Carolina State and it was downhill from there except
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: for Missippi stated good against the past block Utip Vanderbilt
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: was solid, but he was against Ohio State, so yeah,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: then easy. His overall grade was like a forty four
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: point nine big yikes.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: So you never know, I mean, listen, projections don't always
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: come to fruition. You know. It wasn't too long ago
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: that we were running in five you know, five five
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: stars in an offensive class. Uh, you know, three five
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: star wide receivers. And I'm you know, I don't have
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: to check back the numbers, but I'm pretty sure between
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Trade and Bridges, Hazelwood and Weese, none of them are
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: are have eyes on them at the NFL Combine this week.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: You know, none of those guys actually turned out to
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: be something spectacular, you know, and injuries play a part
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: in that. Coaching staff or game changes, things like that
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: always matter. So we'll see, we'll see.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. I'm not, like I said, not stressed.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I am. I am happy that brin Vinibles is gonna
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: takeover on defense. I do like the additions on the
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: defensive staff. We'll talk about that a little bit more.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Another video on one. What Reventables is gonna have to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: do going forward? What we've got a lot coming up
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: over the next few weeks. We've got what's that Future
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Freaks weekend coming up in? Was that in two weeks
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: or three weeks? So you've got a lot of the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: juniors coming into town early early March. Let me go
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: look at the date. I actually have it in the cord.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: That got a bunch of We've got the visit weekend
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: stuff in there. Unto the threads Future Freaks, where are
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: you there? It is three eight. You got a lot
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: of dudes pulling up for that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: And then you know we'll start as you start seeing names.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: The Champion Barbecue will be another one that will be
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: coming down the bike June. Yep, we use a lot,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: We use a lot. We use the the spring game
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: week uh for for recruiting quite a bit for the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: spring portal. And you know last year we saw some
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: some really big gets out of the Spring portal, Dominic
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Williams being one, and now their family are now Oklahoma's
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I mean they live here now, so uh you know
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that's you know, you can some of those things change,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: They just change everything about the family. And and so, uh,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: I'm curious about the recruiting weekend that is the spring game.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: That would be the one thing that I really, you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: hope to hope, hope to God that we don't see
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: that go away, because there's so many opportunities to you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: bring guys in, let them see a game day, you
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: know type atmosphere. You know, some of these kids are
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: you know, if they're being recruited by other campuses, you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: you run out to Uyu. They on a game day
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: may match what we do for the spring game as
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: far as attendance goes. So uh, you know, and guys
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, it's going to be a big
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: deal for them too. So they may be playing in
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: front of sixty five thousand people and then look up
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: in the stands and see sixty five in the middle
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: of the spring game, you know for us, and that
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that makes that makes a dent, and you know in
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: their recruiting process, that's a big thing to them.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I agree. So you've got dead period coming up here. Well,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: we're in dead period right now through March second, we'll
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: get quiet period, which means they can come on campus,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and so you'll see that with the Future Freaks, and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: then probably events throughout March, eight, March and April contact
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: period is when they're gonna be really doing the Spring
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: contacts up until May twenty fifth, and then from May
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: twenty ninth is when you get back to the quiet period,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: and that's when you have all the weekend events because
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: school at that points out, you're gonna start seeing a
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: bunch of visits. And I know that we've got all
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: four weekends in June we've got activities. So far, it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: appears I've seen players tweeting out that they're gonna be
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: in town from June from the sixth, sixth through eighth
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: down to the thirteenth, and in the twenty something, so
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: you'll the twentieth, I'm correct, is the last one for us. Actually,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I think we may go down one more weekend, but
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: that one should be the big one, the big barbecue
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: weekid and so we have some big ovs coming over
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: that weekend, and so we'll break that down a lot
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: more over time to see. But Chuck, I can kind
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: of totally see where Billy's coming with that. You know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: bb was getting used to doing other stuff. You're getting
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: used to trying to run everything. But he also didn't
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: have offensive person that he could trust, right, so you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: kind of get stuck. I think he'll be okay, especially
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: with Kevin Wilson coming in as an analyst. I think
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: he'll do a lot to help with making sure on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: my offensive side things are organized, because I believe he'll
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: do the Kevin John's role of doing advanced scouting and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: really helping them prepare. But I think he'll also help.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll I don't think he'll have any control,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: but I think he'll have some input. I think our
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: book will leverage him as a knowledge base for the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: true game planning each week or whatnot, which is good.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Like you said, having a veteran that's been doing this
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: for a bit can't complain about that. That's that's what
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: you want. I mean, that's that's what Saban always did.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: He always had veterans that could run that side of
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: all themselves. And the only thing was though he also
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: shuffled to a lot offensive coordinators until he found the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: one that worked. So as long as we win, I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: think we'll be fine. So all right, what you got,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you're gonna wrap it up, Boone it what you got last.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this recruiting class should be a larger recruiting class.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I think that really. I think so there's some there's
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: some potential for I say larger as in, you're gonna
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: see kind of like two years ago where you saw
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of really really big time you know people
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: across the board. You know, a lot of big names
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: involved in it. You know, Uh, let's see here sooner.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Cowboys already mentioned kJ Ford and Deuce Gerald's. Heerald's has
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: been Deuce Cherald's has been on campus I think four
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: or five times at this point. Uh, kJ Ford multiple times. Uh.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: You know there's there's a couple of potential flip watches.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Uh you know the running back from Baylor, Uh, defensive
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: back out of a and M safety out of a
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: and M. Like there are a bunch of guys that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: it seems like we're waiting for that. Uh, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: the the stage timeline to really start taking off.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Last year we had guys show up. I think was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: it Elijah Thomas last year that came in and committed
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: and they were like, hell, hold on a nut yet,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and he was like no, no, I'm just go ahead
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: and do it. Let's go ahead and knock this thing out.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: And he did it. And I want to say it
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: was junior day maybe, but he I mean, he hopped
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: on pretty quick. And so outside of those things happening,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: you know, they're going to have a lot of the uh,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: these events where when if you're coming to these events
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: like the Champion Barbecue, it's because they think that closing
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: time is has hit the clock. So yeah, man, it's uh.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: You got that this is gonna be a fun year again.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I will say this, and I know that there's we've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: we've avoided the elephant in the room. Jay. You got
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: lots of sources, a lot of insiders out here, and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: after the coaching staff search and the you know, offensive
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: transfer portal materier, a lot of people want to want
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: to be the ones giving out this this information, want
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: to tell you what's about to happen. I think again
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: this year, a good rule of thumb is until it's done,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: it's not done. It ain't over till it's over, shout
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: out to a very famous Yankee catcher. But like you
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: got to you got to just understand that there are
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: so many there are so many things that nowadays are
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: done until somebody gets a call from a big money
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: donor and says, hey, I think we can add five
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars more to this effort. And so I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: would say that is stick around with you know, kind
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: of stay stay stay tuned. You know, we'll try to
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: lead you, you know how our feelings are feeling, but
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: stay tuned. And I would say this is if you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: see forecasts and stuff out there, grain of salt more
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: than ever this year, Grain of Salt, We're gonna be
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: on some really really really big names. And for everybody
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: who was part of the Fasusi saga this past year,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: expect maybe like five or six of those. Because when
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: you're play for big time defensive backs, big time five
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: star you know, defensive linement, offensive linement, those things are
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: going to happen. They are going to happen. And there's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of university is saying a lot of different
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: things and it does not matter. Get them on the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: campus and we can go from there. And that's that's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: kinda gonna be the marching order for a lot of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: these people. So, uh, this is gonna be a fun
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun cycle. And I think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: the ouse in on a lot of names that are very,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: very exciting.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we aren't in a bunch of battles and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of quote unquote drama, a lot of y'all
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: are gonna be mad regardless. So you gotta make a decision.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Either we gotta be okay with a bunch of the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: drama that's gonna happen, or we're not. And the drama
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: comes from the fact that all these schools are gonna
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: want these dudes that we're going after, Like we got
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: for Susie to commit, and then you know, you had
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the end of the in drama and everybody was wondering
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: if he was about to flip or whatnot, and then
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: end up signing and there was literally drama free Oklahoma.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Does folks on guys like that, guys that are truly
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: locked in and committed and want to play. Yeah, well,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I'll say time some players regardless, they're talented enough. They
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: may be low maintenance, but they still got everybody in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: my after just be prepared. It's gonna be fun. It's
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be a fun few months. We'll dive into that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll I'll put together the list of players that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I know of that's gonna be coming to these events,
• 1:07:23
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