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2024 gaylor highlights ft. jordyn!!! · gasp! the pod

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  She's just writing from the man's perspective.
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  Yeah, she's she's a. Lesbian man's perspective.
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  Yeah, like fully formed chorus of this song was written by
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  Travis like. They're going to be like, oh,
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  Travis says he's a lesbian cause lesbian's his girl.
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  Me too. And it all ties back to Drake.
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  And she partnered with Drake, so she's actually showing that
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  she's going to work with Drake. She's double album.
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  Hey guys, it's me Haley, the host of Gasp.
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  Before we get into the show, I'd like to very quickly let you all
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  know how grateful I am to be able to host this podcast for
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  you all. However, running a podcast is
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  time consuming and more expensive than I thought.
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  I want to keep this going for as long as I can, and in order to
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  keep it running and continuously improve the quality of content,
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  I rely on y'all support. If you are financially able I
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  would greatly appreciate either joining my Patreon which is only
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  $5.00 a month and you will receive bonus content plus early
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  episodes and or buying my merch. Links to all of this are in the
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  show notes. OK that's all.
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  Thanks again and enjoy the show my queers and Queens 01 more
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  thing. My audio will improve next week
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  as I'm getting a new mic because my equipment was indeed stolen.
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  Thank you so much for your patience.
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  Hey Gaspers and welcome back to GASP the Pod.
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  This is season 2 of GASP, so thank you for joining us for
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  season 2. This is a podcast for the gays,
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  the girls, and especially the gay girls.
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  Those who know are very much aware of that.
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  And if you're new, this is a pop culture queer podcast.
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  So we talk about like queer hot takes of pop culture.
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  We call celebrities gay, mostly Taylor Swift.
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  It's mostly a Gaylord podcast. And sometimes we talk about
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  other things. Today is a very special day
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  because I run this podcast. It's kind of like deep dives
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  into specific topics and then sometimes if we're lucky, we get
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  special guests. And I have a special guest
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  today, and that special guest is DJ Crocs KA Jordan, our
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  favorite. Yeah, I'm so.
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  Excited. I'm so glad you're here.
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  Like, it's such a special kickoff for Season 2.
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  Just we're just jumping in and also today just so happens to be
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  Inauguration Day today that we have scheduled this.
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  And what's good for us a little more I'll.
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  Boost I think so we we need it, but it's also so crazy because
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  literally he's being sworn in. He we're not even going to say
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  he's being sworn in right now. So like, as we've started this,
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  we live in a world with President Biden, and as we
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  finish it, Trump is going to be president.
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  Scary. I know.
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  Isn't that literally so scary? We're just here gapping about
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  Taylor Swift girl kisser. We're gonna pretend like that's
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  not even happening. Exactly.
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  It's not real. Not real.
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  Not happening. I'm gonna talk about Gaylord
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  highlights of 2024 arm musings of what it was like going
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  through the downfall of TikTok and then all of a sudden it
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  coming back and our predictions or 2025 and all things
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  Gaylordism because obviously we need to find out all your like
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  real thoughts about everything, which you share anyways, but in
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  a long form way all the. The true T.
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  Exactly the true T because what's fun about a podcast is
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  that there's I'm sure you've experienced this.
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  Sometimes you're saying something on TikTok and you're
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  like, I know this is going to get so much fucking hate right
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  now. Like I know this one line and
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  I'm like, and I like sometimes take it out.
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  But even the most like annoying hedlers don't really listen to
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  this much content enough to like.
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  They don't go to the full podcast.
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  Yeah, they probably won't even clip it and repost it anywhere
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  else. So like we can literally say
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  whatever you want. Like yeah, that's the benefit of
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  the podcast. Little housekeeping stuff before
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  we get into Maine content, Those who are new here to my podcast,
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  please subscribe to my YouTube. It really like is like the main
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  thing that matters when it comes to a podcast is rating on
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  Spotify and Apple and then subscribing on YouTube.
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  I also recently made a Patreon, which is really exciting and I
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  know that gaylors have talked about like making a mass
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  Patreon, so we should definitely do that in the link in my TikTok
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  bio, which is still there and also will be in the notes of
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  whatever this comes up on YouTube on Spotify, on Apple.
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  So just look at the notes and it's there.
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  Also final thing, I literally made merch like a week ago which
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  is very fun and so. Cute so.
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  Cute, thanks. I love the.
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  Shirt you're wearing right now. I need it, it's so cute.
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  This is supposed to be me I just AI blonde girl and if anyone's
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  wondering where I am right now because this is not my normal
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  set, I'm at my parents house. I was just at the inauguration
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  like people's March which is in resistance of the inauguration.
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  It's not pro inauguration. I think that's probably obvious,
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  but I feel like I'm and my mom was actually a volunteer and
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  volunteered to be like crowd control.
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  Whoa, she's brave. Had these little, like neon
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  little arm bands and she was like standing in front of like
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  the Jesus saves people being, yeah, so that's why I'm here.
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  And I don't have a mic today because all of my things and my
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  podcast equipment were stolen on the train.
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  That was all in your. Isn't that that is a.
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  Bad week. Horrible.
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  Oh my fucking God, yeah. Could they do any like?
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  Do anything. Could they track it?
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  I like put my, I like filed a form or whatever or like we
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  don't pay out anything like if you lose your luggage, like even
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  if it's stolen by like Amtrak employees.
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  Oh. Isn't that crazy?
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  My God that is it was just gone. Fucking horrible.
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  I started crying and then the next day it was like TikTok
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  Supreme Court fully getting removed and I was like, Oh my
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  God. And then, you know, I just
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  reinstated or whatever. But again, at what cost?
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  I've been seeing people post like oh when TikTok is finally
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  restored and it's a three day weekend and you're finally at
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  peace, I'm like, is anyone forgetting like the Trump of it
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  all? Right and the fact that there
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  was so many messages. Thank you President Trump.
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  We give our our gratitude to President Trump like on
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  essentially the world's largest billboard right now everywhere
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  right before he's inaugurated. We are thank you Trump.
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  You're amazing. Like it's disgusting and it
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  freaks me out. And then there's so many people.
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  I saw a James Charles video where they were like, it was,
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  they were joking about thanking Trump for fixing TikTok, but I'm
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  like, no, even that. Like he wants that.
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  That's what he likes and that's what he wants.
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  And he wants everyone to be praising him.
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  He's not gonna know if you're joking.
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  You're not. And neither are all of his crazy
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  fucking supporters. Like it's just, it's scary.
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  Positive messages. Right about him like.
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  Oh God, it's disgusting. Well, anyways, we will maybe get
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  into that later, but probably not.
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  We'll probably just be talking about Taylor Swift.
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  But I first just want to introduce Jordan.
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  I'm sure anyone that's listening to this already knows who she
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  is. And just like, thank you so much
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  for joining us, pod. I'm so excited to have you as a
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  guest and for us to gab about all things Gaylor and your
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  experience like on Tiktok and everything.
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  But tell everyone like where else to find you if for some
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  reason Tiktok like is banned again.
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  Yes. OK, so if Tiktok is banned again
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  or if Tiktok goes away, I I'm going to try posting on YouTube.
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  I'm going to try some more long form content.
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  I have some ideas of videos that I want to film.
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  It's just always scared me making like full YouTube videos.
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  But we're going to try and I'm going to try to do that before
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  TikTok gets banned so that we have a little bit of like, you
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  know, a base there just in case. I don't know, I've been trying
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  red no or red book and I keep going back and forth on how I
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  feel about it and if it'll if I'll stick with it long term.
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  So we'll see. I still have it.
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  I'll probably still randomly post on there.
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  And I've really been loving blue sky.
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  I think blue sky is really fun. And I saw this morning that they
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  have video content now that you can post on there.
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  You can post like short form videos.
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  So I'm on blue sky, DJ Crocs, red book, Red note, DJ Crocs and
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  on YouTube DJ Crocs. The name was already taken.
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  So I'm DJ Crocs 777 over there. Yeah.
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  Well, thanks for joining. I'm literally obsessed with your
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  content. Like I feel like if I'm waiting
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  for someone to like tell it how it is, I go to your page and
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  there's a lot of people that I think have like redirected their
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  content when the like the popular opinion is somewhere
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  else. It's so much easier to do that.
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  It's just like, why pretend like you don't think something you
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  know? Right, right.
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  No, I cannot pretend. I cannot lie.
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  And when it comes to Taylor Swift, I'm like, who fucking
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  cares? Like there are so many millions
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  of theories and ideas and things that like people talk about as a
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  part of her fandom and she wants it that way.
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  She has created a fandom intentionally to do that.
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  Like she has created a fandom around Easter egging and around
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  speculating about her life. And like since her first album,
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  looking in the liner notes like, oh, who's this song about?
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  Who's she writing this about date, nice boys, all the things.
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  Like she's wanted people to speculate about her life.
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  That's how she's created the band culture that she has today.
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  So truly, who fucking cares? Like, there's always going to be
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  people of so many different thoughts, and I would always
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  rather just share what I actually think because it's fun.
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  And there's always other people who are like, yes, even if I
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  feel like it's maybe a crazy take, there's always someone
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  who's like, yeah, girl. And I'm like, thank you like.
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  That's the thing, like what's even if it is a crazy take,
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  who's crazier? Taylor Swift.
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  So it's actually really not that crazy ever.
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  Like sometimes I think I'm like literally losing my mind and
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  then I'm like, oh, it's Taylor Swift.
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  Like I'm she's always gonna one up us on the crazy scale.
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  Always. And there's always too many
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  things that are too, like, perfect to be coincidental.
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  You know what I mean? Like, there's always too many
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  things that happen that I'm like, yeah, there's no way that
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  this was just happened to go this way.
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  Like, she is planning it. She is the mastermind.
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  She has told us that. I just choose to believe it.
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  Like Wig? Also, who knows what's going to
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  happen with like platforms and like censorship and like just,
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  we already get banned from even just saying gay.
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  So I feel like it's just so important to like continue like
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  pushing the limits of like what's allowed on the Internet.
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  It's kind of crazy that like in America, we're like, worried
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  about saying something gay. Lesbian on online.
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  And even like your interpretation of like the most
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  famous artists and like, people are still upset about it.
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  It's like really trippy because in Tumblr times I feel like this
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  never happened. Oh, like, well, and I feel like
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  fandoms were more, I don't know, like there's so much beauty in
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  TikTok and like how many people you can reach with it.
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  But I do feel like it has really ramped up and escalated some of
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  the hate because so many other people are seeing the content
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  now that like weren't on Tumblr. It was all the gaze in one
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  corner of the Internet, all of us talking about it together.
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  And other people weren't really like coming to those sites.
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  And now on TikTok, it's like a video goes viral and then you
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  have 1000 comments telling you you're insane for possibly
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  believing a beautiful blonde pop star could be queer.
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  Like, when it's really, it's really not that deep.
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  Yeah. It's so true and I feel like
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  it's always the videos that I don't want to go viral that go
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  viral or that you get more people and I'm like, God damn
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  it. I say this to my girlfriend all
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  the time. Like there will be days where
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  I'm like, OK, I'm gonna film 3 videos today.
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  Like I'm gonna put on a mug, I'm gonna do my hair.
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  Like I'm gonna sit down in my little filming spot.
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  And then those videos like do fine, the people, you know, the
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  gaylors see them and whatever. But then a video where I'm like
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  in my pajamas looking busted just like yelling about
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  something gets so many views. I'm like OK, like why is this
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  the one that gets? And it's always like my least
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  palatable ones. It's like always throwing a
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  little bit out there and I didn't really think it through.
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  It's like everything is a fucking thesis.
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  It's just my thoughts and you don't have to agree.
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  Like how many times do we see fucking insane shit?
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  Like we don't engage with like neo Nazi content because what's
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  the point? I mean, not that we're getting
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  Nazis on the other side. That was a bad comparison.
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  I want to take that off Like we don't engage with, I don't know,
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  people who like think other. Like Tavis content like I see it
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  and I scroll by I'm like whatever like.
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  Right. Unless it's like being like, oh,
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  she's so small girl. And I'm like, oh, what this?
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  I saw I saw a tweet from the other night when she was out to
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  dinner with her parents and her friend Ashley.
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  And it was like a picture of her walking up the stairs and
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  someone tweeted it and was like, and in her head she heard baby
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  watch your step. And I was like, I'm gonna throw
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  up. Like, that is so disgusting.
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  In what world? In what world does Taylor Swift
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  need her meathead boyfriend to tell her to watch herself?
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  Like she performs for 3 1/2 hours in heels on stage running
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  around like doing a full performance.
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  She does not need a man to like. Walk up the stairs and really
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  fucking funny, like anyone who just like likes their
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  relationship, whatever. Like it's really though like
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  getting to a point where some people, and this is not
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  everyone. I think like I know a lot of
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  people who are like, oh, I think they're cute and I'm like mind
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  like I mind my business. It's this like reframing of
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  like, oh, a real man should be taller than you.
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  A real man should be bigger than you.
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  A real man is not like it's making me defend Joe Allen.
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  I'm like studious boys. I'm like, what the fuck am I
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  doing? Like, but it's like just a weird
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  like sexist, like it's just like reinforcing these like
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  patriarchical norms and like everyone being like, oh, finally
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  she has someone. And like, I do think it's a lot
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  of young they. Got like teenager swifties,
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  yeah. Thinking about like, I don't
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  know, these edits of them talking to each other, like like
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  you said, like baby watch yourself.
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  I feel like we need to gather all of the craziest Tavis
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  content and just like put it in one area and like laugh.
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  Literally do a Part 2 to this episode and just go through all
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  that. Like, I know it's scary, though,
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  to think about all those like teenage, it's really young
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  Swifties who are like seeing not be the conversation around
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  Taylor and Travis and like thinking like, oh, that's what I
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  need to strive for. That's what I need to like
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  pursue in my life is that kind of relationship.
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  It's also really interesting to me, though, that like Swifties
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  will always there's never any criticism of Taylor, right, or
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  any like actual thought on what's happening When she was
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  with Joe Alwyn and it was like, oh, he just loves her so much.
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  He wants to keep their relationship secret.
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  Oh, they just, you know, like they want to stay together with
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  just the two of them. They don't want anyone to see
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  them. Like he's just protecting her.
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  He's just taking care of her. And then once they broke up, it
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  was Joan's a villain. He's horrible.
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  I can't believe he made her do that.
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  Travis let's her be in the spotlight.
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  He's proud of her. He shows her off.
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  Like they flip the script so, so quickly.
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  I'm just like, whatever, man. She's actually dating in the
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  moment. I remember the freaking Ratty
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  Healey era how mad people were at me and at other gaylors for
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  being like no this is disgusting that she's hanging out with him.
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  Like especially given the timing of right.
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  Like horrible horrible person. And so many people were so angry
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  at that. And it's like no you don't have
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  to blindly just follow or support everything she does.
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  Like you can love her without being like she is this perfect
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  God who I just everything she does I'm gonna praise her for.
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  Like I feel like that's a lot of the hate that gaylors get, is
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  that we're not always just like. You know, on her it's like,
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  right? Like AI mean sometimes we
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  wouldn't even go too far to like hold someone accountable.
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  But I think with a lot of like Palestine stuff, like I really
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  appreciate Gaylins for being like wow, like Taylor Swift
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  hasn't said anything about Palestine or like hasn't said
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  anything about any of these like anti trans bills coming out.
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  And like that's not hatred. It's just being like, oh look,
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  our fave, we would love for our fave to like do a little bit
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  more and that's OK 'cause he's a fucking billionaire.
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  But like a lot of people see that as like being so mean to
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  her and leave her alone. And they feel like they need to
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  protect her. And I'm like, she's OK.
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  She's fine. Like, trust me, she is fine.
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  She can handle a little bit of. And if she doesn't want to see
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  it, she's not going to look at it like she's going to scroll
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  by. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  And I remember during the election this year, I got a
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  bunch of hate for being irritated that she was just
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  putting out these, like, neutral, make sure you go vote,
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  make your voice be heard. And it like, wasn't until right
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  before, you know, a week or something before the election,
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  yeah, that she was like, OK, I'm endorsing Kamala Harris.
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  But until then, it was just all these general register to vote,
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  go vote without actually giving any of her thoughts on, like,
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  who she was voting for or why she was voting for them.
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  And I'm like, girl, you have such a big audience of people
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  who will just blindly follow you and do what you say, regardless
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  if that's a good or a bad thing. Like that's the reality of it.
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  So at least give them your information on like, why you are
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  doing this and why you're voting for her.
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  And I got so much hate for that and like told I didn't know what
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  I was talking about and I didn't know how elections work and all
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  these things. And then I shouldn't be looking
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  to a celebrity for advice. And I was like, no, I'm not.
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  But I'm saying I think she should use her platform and the
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  like largest stage that she has in the world essentially for
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  anything, anything. Like, wait, I remember that era.
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  That was crazy because she was spotted with Brittany Mahomes at
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  the US Open before she even said anything about who she was, like
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  specifically voting for. And a lot of people were like,
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  we can't assume that you're voting for Biden just because
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  you did four years ago. You're hanging out with Trumpers
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  like we don't know. And like with Kansas City
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  Chiefs, players who are like and like Chiefs are very.
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  Imaged now. Exactly.
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  So it's fair to ask that question.
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  And then when she did endorse Kamala, the people were like,
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  did you not trust her? And it's like.
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  Maybe. No, I don't know.
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  Like right, like what? She wasn't giving me any reason
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  to trust her at that point. Like her image was giving very
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  right leaning like and. You can't just like blindly.
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  I mean, I guess you can people can do whatever they want, but
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  there's a lot of people that put her on God like pedestal and I
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  think get really worked up when anyone who says they're a fan
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  and is a fan, like questions anything she does.
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  And like that's not a healthy relationship to have with really
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  nurse. I love that we were just kind of
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  like talking about nothing. I mean, we talked about
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  everything, but like under no topic, which I'm obsessed with.
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  But I do think we should move into our like formal 2024 scaler
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  highlights. I was at first going to say we
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  should talk about like all of Era's sewer highlights, but that
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  went on like the last 10 years. So I feel like he's been there
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  right now. There were so especially at the
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  end of the tour, there were so many surprise songs compilations
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  that it felt like just boom, boom, boom, like every night.
• 21:02
  It was crazy. And we had a narrow down.
• 21:06
  But I do feel like, and maybe you can talk about the first one
• 21:09
  like this number one compilation was I feel like maybe some of
• 21:15
  the most confirming evidence of gay 100%. 100% like I so the
• 21:23
  it's nice to have a friend and Dorothea mashup was.
• 21:26
  I remember listening to that on the live stream and feeling like
• 21:31
  shocked that it was actually happening.
• 21:33
  Like rising? Literally like floating because
• 21:38
  that, like Dorothea, we've already talked about, I feel
• 21:40
  like within the Gaylord community for so long, Like, oh,
• 21:43
  she's referencing being a friend of Dorothea and being a friend
• 21:45
  of Dorothea. And like that in and of itself
• 21:48
  is a crazy reference for Taylor Swift to be making.
• 21:52
  But then for her to take it one step further and to literally
• 21:55
  sing, it's nice to have Dorothea and mash up.
• 21:59
  It's nice to have a friend with Dorothea literally confirming
• 22:03
  that theory that Gaylors have been talking about that she's
• 22:06
  calling herself a friend of Dorothy.
• 22:07
  Like, I don't know if there was anything any other louder
• 22:10
  surprise song than that one because it's undeniable.
• 22:15
  It's undeniable. And both of those songs are
• 22:18
  songs that I think Swifty's here as friendship songs when they
• 22:23
  are both love songs. And like, if you look at the
• 22:26
  prologue of Evermore, she refers to Dorothea as an old flame,
• 22:31
  like a rekindled old flame from high school.
• 22:34
  And it's nice. Right.
• 22:36
  It's not Selena Gomez like, and it's nice to have a friend.
• 22:41
  She talks about church bells ringing and rice being on the
• 22:44
  ground and walking home and like all these things that are
• 22:47
  wedding references and like being friends with your partner,
• 22:50
  which is such a lesbian experience.
• 22:52
  Like, it's such a lesbian experience to have your partner
• 22:55
  and your girlfriend be your best friend and to like, feel that,
• 22:59
  that I don't feel like, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't speak
• 23:01
  for straight people, but I just feel like that is a very lesbian
• 23:03
  experience that a lot of straight people don't experience
• 23:07
  in the same way. Like, I know a lot of my
• 23:08
  straight friends are like, yeah, I love my boyfriend, whatever.
• 23:11
  But my best friends are my people.
• 23:13
  And like, for me and for a lot of my queer friends, it's like,
• 23:17
  you know, my girlfriend, my partner is my best friend.
• 23:19
  Like, I want to be with her all the time.
• 23:21
  I'm obsessed with her, like and. Outside of like a romantic way,
• 23:26
  two things can exist once. And I also think like the fact
• 23:29
  that it almost seems like it starts out as like a friendship
• 23:31
  and it's like is this more is so traffic and like.
• 23:36
  So have experienced. That it's like, is this friends?
• 23:39
  Like, it's hard to like what's happening here.
• 23:41
  Yeah. Then the fact that she mashed it
• 23:43
  up is crazy. I don't even know if I've heard
• 23:47
  anyone even repeat that. I gotta be honest.
• 23:50
  Like. Because like you can't like how
• 23:51
  how do you like? And I think the only rebuttal
• 23:55
  people have is the like, well, she can write about queer
• 23:58
  stories without being a queer person.
• 24:01
  Like she, she's, she's writing from the Emily Dickinson's
• 24:05
  grandmother's. Like whatever the fuck they say,
• 24:08
  girl. Obsessed with Emily Dickinson
• 24:10
  and then like. And that just tells me she's
• 24:14
  deeply in the closet, like if that's what's happening.
• 24:17
  But you know, I haven't seen any rebuttals.
• 24:19
  People just ignore it or just say like, it's not that deep.
• 24:22
  The surprise songs aren't that deep.
• 24:24
  She's just she's just like putting songs together every
• 24:26
  night. And it's it's infuriating.
• 24:29
  It's so frustrating because I feel like Gaylors we watched
• 24:32
  such an interesting story be told throughout the surprise
• 24:35
  things of the era story and especially the last leg when she
• 24:38
  started doing the mash ups like. And it was so clear, the
• 24:42
  midnight or like the sunset, midnight, dawn, sunrise dresses.
• 24:49
  And then all of a sudden the dresses didn't mean anything,
• 24:52
  but they did mean something if they're Chiefs colors.
• 24:56
  Or New Orleans, I was going to say, I remember my because I was
• 25:00
  at night one in New Orleans and she came out in the Mardi Gras
• 25:04
  flag and I was like, OK, I said to my friend, I was like, she's
• 25:07
  either going to wear the bisexual flag or the lesbian
• 25:09
  flag with the 1989 outfits one night here in New Orleans and my
• 25:13
  phone was like, what? And I was like, no, like, trust
• 25:15
  me, she's going to do it because she's proving a point now.
• 25:17
  She knows how the flag she used for the first time, different
• 25:20
  shirt, skirt and boots to show, OK, I'm wearing a flag.
• 25:25
  And then was it night 3 in New Orleans that she wore the pink,
• 25:28
  blue and purple of the 1989 outfit?
• 25:31
  Like, but then that that doesn't mean anything.
• 25:33
  That's just coincidental. She just liked those colors
• 25:36
  together. Like, and that's what makes me
• 25:39
  crazy, I think, is that things only can mean something when
• 25:44
  it's not queer or when it's not gay.
• 25:46
  But once it is, then it's just she has no clue about that.
• 25:50
  She doesn't know anything about right?
• 25:52
  Like it's. And I feel like I literally
• 25:55
  would lose my mind if we didn't have this community.
• 25:59
  Like, I can imagine like seeing that.
• 26:03
  And like, because I've got a lot of queer friends, but not all my
• 26:06
  queer friends are specifically gaylors.
• 26:09
  And a lot of people are like, oh that's cool, that's cool.
• 26:11
  And I'm like. No, but like you don't
• 26:13
  understand. Right.
• 26:14
  I'm like, let's get into it because I think I would
• 26:18
  literally lose my mind. It's nice to have Dorothea or
• 26:20
  sorry, friend of Dorothy is literally probably the number
• 26:26
  one like most popular way to flag throughout all of American
• 26:32
  history. I'm trying to think of like
• 26:34
  another word. I mean, maybe like the yellow
• 26:37
  brick road or like it's one of the most irrefutable ways to
• 26:41
  flag. Like if you look up friend of
• 26:43
  Dorothy, obviously like the first thing that comes up is
• 26:45
  like two year code started in like the 40s.
• 26:48
  Like it's just so clear. It's.
• 26:50
  Always been a thing, yeah. So I it's just really beyond to
• 26:54
  me to see like teenagers and I hope they are teenagers and not
• 26:58
  like grown adults being like actually that's not it's like
• 27:03
  you don't know anything. I'm so.
• 27:06
  Learn your career history 1st and then we can circle back and
• 27:09
  discuss. OK, so the other one that was a
• 27:12
  crazy mash up was everybody's watching her, but I don't like a
• 27:15
  gold rush. And was this the same weekend as
• 27:19
  It's Nice to Have Dorothea Because I was trying to remember
• 27:22
  back? Wait, let's find out.
• 27:24
  Who would know? June 14th.
• 27:26
  June 14th was everybody's watching her.
• 27:28
  Yeah, OK. Well.
• 27:30
  Was that the same weekend? If not the same weekend then it
• 27:32
  was this. I mean, obviously the same month
• 27:34
  because they were both during Pride month, but I swear they
• 27:38
  were like back-to-back nice or like really close to each other
• 27:41
  in the same weekend. And that was another one that
• 27:44
  was mind blowingly crazy because she really confirmed that the
• 27:49
  muse of Gold Rush is a woman in the way that she mashed up those
• 27:53
  songs and like change the lyrics a little bit.
• 27:56
  I also love that she sang This is What You Came For because I
• 27:59
  think any reference to Calvin Harris and his The Gold Beard is
• 28:03
  just hilarious and cracks me up and I just know he was probably
• 28:07
  irritated about it somewhere that I told him to sing that
• 28:11
  song. No like.
• 28:13
  The era where like, no one was like, I love Taylor and Calvin
• 28:17
  Harris together. I feel like no one even like,
• 28:20
  weird or weird. No, literally.
• 28:22
  Like, yeah. I mean, she literally said like,
• 28:25
  I forgot you existed. I forget.
• 28:28
  That Masha, yeah, The way that she combined those where she was
• 28:32
  literally saying like everybody's watching her.
• 28:35
  But I don't like a gold rush. Like that scares me.
• 28:38
  That intimidates me that everyone's watching her and
• 28:40
  everyone is obsessed with her. Like, what is it like to grow
• 28:42
  up? I mean, gold rush is already.
• 28:44
  I feel like if you listen to it and actually listen to it, it's
• 28:47
  like, OK, this is very clearly about a woman.
• 28:50
  I don't know what man's hair is like falling into place like
• 28:52
  Domino's looking growing up so. Beautiful.
• 28:56
  I'm like, Oh my God, this is me trying and daylight was crazy
• 29:03
  because then we were like, Oh my God, she's going to step into
• 29:05
  daylight like trying to get into daylight.
• 29:08
  She didn't by the. Way.
• 29:11
  And she didn't. And was she in the lesbian flag
• 29:14
  dress when she sang that? There was something about the
• 29:17
  outfit that she was wearing that night that specifically I
• 29:19
  remember being like, Oh my God. Like yellow.
• 29:23
  Yeah, the yellow. Oh my God dress.
• 29:25
  She was in the bisexual, she was in the BI dress.
• 29:28
  Yeah, OK, OK. And it's like she's like trying
• 29:33
  to get into daylight but she's not there yet.
• 29:37
  It's just crazy how many clues she gives and like continuously
• 29:41
  over and over. And then like, when did Taylor
• 29:44
  Nation go live during? I don't want to live forever and
• 29:48
  dress. Yes, that was when that was like
• 29:53
  early in the year I. Did Taylor Swift's page.
• 29:55
  No, no, Taylor. So there was two different times
• 29:57
  that this happened where they went live and she's just saying
• 30:00
  I don't want to live forever. One of the times Taylor Nation
• 30:03
  went live and it was like a message from the tortured poets
• 30:05
  department. And I think this was like in
• 30:07
  May, after a little bit after TTBD came out and Taylor sang,
• 30:13
  she was in the yellow dress and she's saying I don't want to
• 30:14
  live forever on the piano. And that was like crazy, OK?
• 30:18
  And everyone was really confused, like, why did they go
• 30:20
  live for her to just sing that? But then the next time Taylor
• 30:24
  Swift herself went live on her Instagram and mashed up I don't
• 30:28
  want to live forever with dress and saying about how she doesn't
• 30:31
  want to live forever unless her best friend is taking her
• 30:34
  fucking clothes off. And then that was it.
• 30:36
  Again, there was no announcement.
• 30:38
  There was nothing else. She just like dove into the
• 30:40
  stage and the live went off. And I remember everyone on
• 30:44
  Twitter I'm being so confused and being, well, not gaylors but
• 30:48
  like general swifty population being like what the fuck?
• 30:51
  Why did she go live for that? What is going on?
• 30:53
  It really gives me the same energy as all the times people
• 30:56
  are clowning for Rep TV. And then she just sat down and
• 30:59
  played maroon every single time. Like she just wants to get
• 31:03
  everyone's attention and everyone's eyes on her to sing
• 31:06
  incredibly loud gay yeah, mashups.
• 31:09
  And yeah, the fact that she went live twice the same, I don't
• 31:13
  want to live forever, will forever be crazy and with no
• 31:15
  explanation to it. And Swifty's have never figured
• 31:18
  it out. It's the same as like the upside
• 31:20
  down phones from Midnight's Mayhem with me.
• 31:21
  Like why is it the eight and the three?
• 31:23
  Are we ever going to get an explanation of this?
• 31:25
  And I'm like, well, there is one, you just don't want to hear
• 31:28
  it so. It does feel like, yeah, like I
• 31:31
  don't want to say the 123 theory is like completely stupid
• 31:35
  because I think that like I wouldn't be surprised if that
• 31:38
  tracked. But I do feel like that's kind
• 31:40
  of the only theory like Swifty's Hold on to right now.
• 31:43
  And they're like, it's the 123 theory actually.
• 31:46
  Maroon, if you think about it, it's like 3 minutes and like
• 31:49
  they make these reaches and like, I think that's awesome.
• 31:52
  Like I don't, I don't think they're delusional for that.
• 31:54
  But it's like when we're like, oh, maybe she's bringing
• 31:57
  attention to this song because. For a reason like she's.
• 32:01
  Write gay song and she misses Karlie Kloss.
• 32:04
  Like when she sang Maroon. I think it was the second to
• 32:08
  last night of the heirs. To her, it was that final
• 32:11
  weekend and she said for the final time she started talking
• 32:16
  in the middle. That's the first time I think
• 32:18
  she's ever just started talking while she was singing and she
• 32:22
  was like for the final time and she was almost like pissed.
• 32:25
  She was like that. Can't.
• 32:27
  I don't get to sing this again. It felt like she was like, you
• 32:31
  better fucking pay attention. For the final time, I'm telling
• 32:34
  you to listen to this God damn song.
• 32:37
  And listen to these lyrics. Lips, The small lips, yeah,
• 32:42
  Swifties, it's always just Rep TV.
• 32:44
  And that's. I think it got really
• 32:45
  frustrating towards the end of the era's tour where it was like
• 32:49
  there was so much going on with the yellow brick road themes and
• 32:52
  the yellow brick road on her Instagram and karma and the
• 32:54
  orange door. And like all these different
• 32:57
  things that were happening, the new dresses and the new outfits
• 33:00
  and the like, bisexual flag dress to the blurpel dress to
• 33:03
  the lesbian flag dress. And all Swifties could talk
• 33:06
  about was are we going to Rep TV?
• 33:08
  Rep TV Is Rep TV coming? Are we going to get Rep TV
• 33:10
  before the end of the era is tour?
• 33:12
  Like, oh, this must, this must mean Rep TV.
• 33:14
  Oh, she's wearing this orange and pink dress because she wore
• 33:17
  the orange and pink dress at the Grammys or the VMA's or whatever
• 33:21
  it was during the reputation era.
• 33:23
  So we're going to get Rep TV. And I'm like, not everything
• 33:26
  it's about reputation. Like there is so much more to
• 33:29
  the errors to her story than just reputation.
• 33:32
  Reputation like. What's going to happen to them
• 33:34
  once reputation comes out? I think that Taylor kind of
• 33:37
  knows that like, once Rep comes out, there's no like pining for
• 33:44
  another rerecord. I mean, people want debut or
• 33:47
  whatever, but it's not the same obsession with like Rep.
• 33:50
  So I do feel like she's pushing it off.
• 33:52
  And then I want to hear your thoughts of, like, pushing it
• 33:56
  off. And I kind of see her, like,
• 33:58
  replaying the story of Bejeweled.
• 34:04
  I still feel like reputation and karma are, like, coupled
• 34:07
  together. And she should eventually come
• 34:09
  out through that way or that storyline and like, ghost the
• 34:14
  Prince and do all these things and like, But it just doesn't
• 34:17
  make sense to me that she would. Yeah.
• 34:19
  That she would be like at the peak of her fame and then
• 34:22
  release reputation. I still feel like she needs to
• 34:25
  be like scorned. To yeah, like to be able to
• 34:28
  really do it correctly. Yeah.
• 34:32
  I feel very strongly that like, if Taylor's ever going to come
• 34:36
  out more efficiently than she already has.
• 34:38
  Besides just like starting to show up with a woman to events
• 34:42
  and things and like, like just being like, yeah, this is like
• 34:46
  who I'm. And never saying anything and
• 34:47
  just letting people do what they want with it.
• 34:49
  I think it will be through lyrics that are so undeniable,
• 34:54
  which there already are so many that are so undeniable that
• 34:56
  people still dream girl like argumentative, antithetical
• 34:59
  dream girl. People will argue that till they
• 35:01
  are blue in the face. And I'm like, no, grammatically
• 35:04
  she's singing to a dream girl like there's nothing else that
• 35:06
  that could mean. And something I've thought for a
• 35:09
  long time is that Rep TV, either the vault tracks will have she
• 35:14
  her pronouns or she'll rerecord it all with she her pronouns.
• 35:18
  And I think that would be so iconic and so amazing and would
• 35:22
  kind of give the same effect as the original Reputation.
• 35:25
  Because I think a lot of people would be really mad at her and
• 35:28
  would feel like she's been lying to them and feel like she was
• 35:31
  lying to them during the original Reputation album.
• 35:34
  And right, like, and would not be happy about that and about
• 35:40
  her doing it in that way. I think a lot of people feel
• 35:42
  like they're owed a formal coming out from Taylor Swift,
• 35:45
  where like, I'm not gonna ever believe that she could be queer
• 35:49
  until she actually says da da da da da, Which, like, people don't
• 35:53
  owe you that. We're never gonna be press
• 35:54
  release or same statement that's gonna say Peeler is this
• 36:00
  identity like that? She's never going to and we
• 36:02
  don't even know. Maybe she's an unlabeled queen.
• 36:05
  Like, maybe she's like, I just date and hook up with people and
• 36:08
  whatever. Like, she doesn't owe us that.
• 36:11
  And so I think if she ever does, like, formally come out, it will
• 36:14
  just be through song lyrics or through all she or, you know, a
• 36:18
  song that's so undeniable. But even then, I do think
• 36:21
  unfortunately, people would be like, she's just writing from
• 36:24
  the man's perspective. Yeah.
• 36:25
  Like she's just a. Lesbian man's perspective.
• 36:27
  Yeah, like fully formed chorus of this song was written by
• 36:31
  Travis like. They're going to be like, oh,
• 36:33
  Travis says he's a lesbian because or like president girl,
• 36:37
  me too. And it all ties back to Drake
• 36:40
  and she partnered with Drake, so she's actually showing that
• 36:43
  she's going to work with Drake. She's.
• 36:44
  Double album like with Drake. Oh my God, I do think like the
• 36:50
  vault songs of rap have to be the gayest of all time.
• 36:55
  And she signals like I think it's the Great War where she's
• 36:58
  like something from the vault or the crypt.
• 37:02
  And there's just, I think that's why she's waiting so long to
• 37:07
  release it. Like she couldn't have just
• 37:08
  released Rep like a year ago and then just went on with the.
• 37:11
  Errors to her right It just. Wouldn't have made.
• 37:13
  No, and I think she likes like stringing everybody along a
• 37:16
  little bit and like edging us and being like, oh, it's coming,
• 37:19
  it's coming, but not yet right on the black nails from this
• 37:21
  weekend. Like I think that was she wants
• 37:24
  everyone to think reputation, but I don't think that means
• 37:26
  reputation is coming. I think she's just like do.
• 37:28
  You think? Do you see this?
• 37:29
  Do you see my black nails like like with her purse?
• 37:33
  But then it's it's not she just wants to keep everyone engaged
• 37:37
  and interested in her. And that is like a really big
• 37:39
  thing that keeps a lot of 50s clowning and people theorizing
• 37:43
  is like, when when is Rep TV going to come out?
• 37:46
  And so I hope, and she said in the Time magazine Person of the
• 37:50
  Year interview, like the vault tracks are going to be fire, I
• 37:54
  think is what she said Like. And so I could see, I've seen
• 37:58
  people talk about like if the reputation vault tracks are just
• 38:02
  going to be Karma, like the Karma album, if she's going to
• 38:05
  use that, which I could see that happening.
• 38:09
  But I could also see it being a totally separate album that we
• 38:12
  get like later and that maybe the Rep TV kind of sets us up
• 38:17
  for. Rising action like the climax
• 38:19
  and like karma might be like revealing truths that maybe we
• 38:23
  didn't know already. Yeah.
• 38:26
  I also feel like I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't release
• 38:30
  Rep next because, and we can go into TTPD after this.
• 38:35
  But Grammys last year, she that's when she announced TTPD
• 38:41
  and the fact that she was going to release another album and she
• 38:43
  was wearing black and white. And I swear to God, I literally
• 38:45
  was like sitting with my friends and I was like, this does not
• 38:48
  give reputation like the white. No, and like the like almost
• 38:52
  wedding dress look, the gloves and the lace and the like.
• 38:57
  Gonna be a wedding album about Travis and he actually releases
• 39:00
  like the gayest. Saddest and in an asylum help me
• 39:04
  like. And like she loves being in
• 39:06
  happy relationships and really silly releasing like the most
• 39:09
  devastating like folklore and evermore came out when she was
• 39:12
  supposed to be like happy in like a four year long
• 39:15
  relationship. And then she talks about on the
• 39:17
  air as to her like, yeah, I wrote folklore when I was like,
• 39:19
  alone by myself drinking bottles and bottles of wine every night.
• 39:22
  Like, OK, girly, that that doesn't really fit the same
• 39:25
  story. But then we get called crazy for
• 39:27
  saying she lies to us. Like, and she doesn't always
• 39:30
  tell us the truth. Like, well, it's the same as
• 39:33
  when Lover came out and everyone was like, Oh my God, this is
• 39:37
  such a happy love album. Like, this is so sweet and she's
• 39:41
  in so much love. And then you actually listen to
• 39:42
  the album and it's just like, heartbreaking, sad breakup
• 39:47
  devastation that BBC Live Lounge haunts me where she's in like,
• 39:51
  the black sparkly and she just looks so depressed.
• 39:54
  And she sings that song. Do you still love someone if
• 39:56
  they can't love you anymore? Like unconditional love?
• 39:58
  And then she does a cover of I Can't Stop Loving You.
• 40:02
  And it's she looks so heartbroken and like, how did
• 40:05
  anyone watch this in the moment and think she's in a happier
• 40:08
  relationship right now? She's so in love.
• 40:10
  Like she is living her best life with Joe Owen.
• 40:13
  Because I remember watching that and being like girlie is sad,
• 40:17
  girlie is down bad. Like that's like the clear
• 40:19
  difference maybe between like gaylors and I won't even say
• 40:21
  like Hitler's like Swifties who maybe like aren't even like
• 40:25
  don't even like hate Gaylors, but are just like consuming a
• 40:28
  very different type of Taylor Swift than we are, which is like
• 40:31
  we listen to her lyrics and try to understand her base and what
• 40:36
  she's saying in her lyrics and her songwriting.
• 40:39
  And and it's not her lying to us by giving a different public
• 40:43
  persona, which is performance Artler.
• 40:46
  And maybe not even, even if it wasn't even performance Artler,
• 40:49
  it's like how queer people stay like safe.
• 40:52
  And there's a lot of people that say, how could you be like a fan
• 40:56
  if you think that she's been lying to you?
• 40:58
  And it's like, it's not lying. And that's the same shit that
• 41:01
  gay people get when they come out.
• 41:02
  And they're like, you've been lying to us.
• 41:04
  And it's like, right. Because this is your reaction
• 41:07
  right now. Right.
• 41:07
  Like, because you're losing your shit.
• 41:10
  Like, yeah, so I just, it's protecting yourself.
• 41:13
  Right, right. So like reading her the lyrics,
• 41:15
  like after really listening to TTPD past that one night when it
• 41:19
  was like really chaotic and we had 36 fucking songs.
• 41:23
  Like how many was it like 24? Yeah, 3030, No 31, I think.
• 41:27
  One album. Yeah, a lot.
• 41:30
  So many. I was like, really just like so
• 41:32
  stressed out. And then finally, when I like
• 41:33
  started listening to it, I was like, oh, this is first of all,
• 41:37
  there's one little sad Tavis song on it.
• 41:41
  And then everything else is it's devastating.
• 41:43
  And she's not even saying that this is being written about a
• 41:47
  movie or about something else, like this is her own
• 41:50
  experiences. And it can't all be about Joe
• 41:54
  and Maddie Healey. It just.
• 41:56
  Like, well, and I feel like TTBD is such a good example of an
• 41:59
  album where she is writing about her own life and like you said,
• 42:03
  like her own life and her own experiences through the lens of
• 42:07
  romance and a relationship. Because I think that's what
• 42:10
  people expect from her is that she's going to write music about
• 42:13
  love and music about her relationships and music about
• 42:15
  whatever. But then if you're actually
• 42:17
  listening to the songs, there's often like, I feel like it's not
• 42:21
  even about a relationship Half the time.
• 42:22
  It's about her relationship with fame or her relationship with
• 42:26
  her parents or her relationship with the closet or her
• 42:30
  relationship with Hollywood. You know, there's so many other
• 42:33
  relationships, right? Like that she writes about
• 42:35
  through the lens of a romantic relationship so that it's more
• 42:40
  palatable to the general audience and the general world.
• 42:45
  But like, then if you really listen to it and analyze it
• 42:48
  more, it's like, oh, you're not writing about Joe Alwyn here.
• 42:52
  You're writing about Hollywood and the music industry and how
• 42:54
  it's fucked you up. And like how being in the
• 42:56
  spotlight for 20 years has created this crazy self-image
• 43:01
  that you have, you know, like, it's so much deeper than just
• 43:05
  Joe Alwyn, right? Like like the smallest man,
• 43:07
  whoever lived. I know people like pin that on
• 43:09
  Maddie Healey and I do feel like this album is so specific and
• 43:15
  shouting out like Maddie Healey tropes isn't any album I've ever
• 43:22
  heard. Like there was less Joe Alwyn,
• 43:25
  like little clues hidden in folklore, Lover or whatever then
• 43:32
  this album and I feel like it's to throw people off because it's
• 43:36
  so sapphic. Or at least that's what that's.
• 43:38
  Like Maddie Healey is used as the like bad, wrong relationship
• 43:42
  I'm not supposed to be in to symbolize the queerness because
• 43:46
  like the but daddy I love him visuals are all about like he's
• 43:52
  a bad boy. But like then you look at the
• 43:54
  but daddy I love him visuals on the errors tour.
• 43:56
  And it's religious trauma. It's her being like burned in a
• 44:00
  church and like pews and stained glass windows and like all these
• 44:05
  things where she is screaming about like these Sarah's and
• 44:08
  Hannah's don't accept me and they like don't want me to be
• 44:12
  who I am. I can't step into this church or
• 44:14
  I'm going to burn. Like, you know who gets told
• 44:15
  that? Queer people.
• 44:17
  You're going to burn if you come in here.
• 44:19
  You're going to burn in hell if you are a queer kid like.
• 44:22
  And she says it so many times, like the people that are hating
• 44:26
  her are the religious people like she says multiple times in
• 44:31
  TTPD and just it's just so interesting to me.
• 44:34
  The visuals and the aesthetic of the torture post department is
• 44:39
  just so different than like her outward persona of chiefs Tavis.
• 44:45
  It's. Yeah, like different.
• 44:47
  And I don't know how Swifties are listening to the same songs.
• 44:51
  I am like, I'll be listening to Cassandra and I'm like, is
• 44:54
  anyone listening to this song? How is prophecy like?
• 44:59
  Yeah, like, Oh my God, when she did, I did something bad in
• 45:02
  Cassandra and Magwoman. I levitated.
• 45:05
  Literally. She is so clearly being like I'm
• 45:08
  a witch, I am a witch, I am. Not who you think I am.
• 45:12
  Like you, a lot of you in the audience would not support who I
• 45:18
  am personally. Like and you just don't see it.
• 45:21
  But going to all the games and like chains and like chains
• 45:24
  around her waist, chains on her wrist.
• 45:26
  I'm like, oh, OK, that's really interesting.
• 45:29
  Like you are in chains. You are in a contract here where
• 45:34
  you like have to go here. I also saw something that said
• 45:37
  the Chiefs audience or like fan base has grown by 40% because of
• 45:43
  Taylor Swift. Like one of these Chiefs, like
• 45:47
  one of the Divas who's in the boxes with them.
• 45:49
  I think she's like, I don't know, married to an owner or
• 45:51
  something. But she said that there's the
• 45:53
  like, the like. Girl who's kind of scary.
• 45:56
  I think so and like the OR like one of the girls that gave
• 46:00
  Taylor a gift recently, like no, it's not one of the wags.
• 46:04
  It's like an it's like she's like, up high, like, her husband
• 46:07
  is like an owner or something. Like, and she's in there and
• 46:10
  they gave Taylor a gift to be like, thank you for all the good
• 46:13
  PR. And they've grown by, like, 40%
• 46:16
  since she started coming to games.
• 46:19
  And then it's, yeah, it's so crazy that like, she's there,
• 46:22
  but then her music is so sad. Emo lesbian.
• 46:26
  Yeah. Like I'm being trapped.
• 46:27
  I can't live this life any longer doing this, she's clearly
• 46:32
  saying. Like there's some people in town
• 46:34
  that I bestow upon my fagus smile.
• 46:37
  That's not New York, guys, OK. Right, like now and.
• 46:39
  Is she bestowing her like fagus smile?
• 46:43
  It's Kansas City. It's just so clear to me.
• 46:48
  I don't know, like it's beyond. Another thing I wanted to say
• 46:52
  about TTPD that is crazy to me and that I as a reference I
• 46:55
  don't get how people miss is the Fortnite music video came out
• 47:00
  like what three or four months after that New York Times
• 47:03
  article with the hairpin in her hair talking about how she drops
• 47:07
  hairpins. And then the Fortnite music
• 47:09
  video came out and she had 13 hairpins on each side of her
• 47:13
  bangs and like the 1st frame was just reference it like or just
• 47:18
  zoomed in on all. In her chain, those hairpins.
• 47:23
  Like in an insane asylum getting stock therapy.
• 47:27
  You know who they used to do that to?
• 47:28
  Queer people. Dear women.
• 47:31
  And do you really think that this is because she had a bad
• 47:34
  breakup and situation ship with Maddie Healey like that that
• 47:37
  sent her? It's just so frustrating because
• 47:39
  it's. So.
• 47:40
  It's so much deeper than that. And I'm like Taylor Swift has
• 47:43
  shown for 20 years, everything is that deep.
• 47:46
  Everything has a deeper meaning. She is never just making art for
• 47:50
  the hell of it. Like everything is intentional.
• 47:52
  She's doing everything with purpose and then it just will
• 47:56
  choose to miss it anyways. I totally agree.
• 48:00
  What do you think? Like do you think we're leaving
• 48:03
  through this is going to get more into like predictions?
• 48:06
  And I know we kind of talked about like karma and reputation,
• 48:08
  but like, do you think her leaving through the orange door
• 48:12
  means that karma is next? And do you buy into the whole
• 48:15
  like hurting to the lover house theory?
• 48:18
  And what do you say to people that are like, that door wasn't
• 48:21
  orange, It was like white this time or whatever the fuck?
• 48:28
  I I do think her leaving through the orange store means some,
• 48:32
  some form of karma is coming, but I don't know if it's like
• 48:35
  maybe how we're going to expect it.
• 48:38
  I I don't know. I just feel like being a fan of
• 48:39
  Taylor Swift personal and I've learned feel like lead us down a
• 48:42
  trail. But then it's not all, it
• 48:43
  doesn't always go where we think it's going to go.
• 48:45
  Like even if we're like on the right track, it's not.
• 48:48
  So it might not be like, OK, Karma the album, you know, like
• 48:51
  here it is, whatever. But I think it is leading us to
• 48:54
  some whether that's the reputation vault tracks, whether
• 48:57
  that's like completing her rerecords and then what's going
• 49:01
  to come after that, Like what she's going to be able to do
• 49:04
  after that. I've seen theories that she's
• 49:05
  going to start her own record company and her record label and
• 49:08
  be able to like have her own or like employ musicians through
• 49:13
  that, you know. So like, I think there is some
• 49:16
  version of Karma coming. I just don't know if we know
• 49:18
  what it is. I would love if we actually got
• 49:21
  Karma the last album. I feel like that's something
• 49:23
  that we've thought about for so long that I'm like, just what is
• 49:27
  it like? What does it sound like?
• 49:28
  What's the vibe? The Gardens of Babylon.
• 49:30
  Like, did it even happen? Is it real?
• 49:34
  Is it just like? Loss.
• 49:35
  Of glory, yeah. So yes, I think, and I think
• 49:39
  that was intentional. Like I got a, there's a lot of
• 49:42
  comments in my video about that that were like, well, she just
• 49:44
  stayed on the stage too long so she couldn't go down underneath
• 49:46
  it. Like, but she's Taylor Swift.
• 49:48
  This is her show. If she wanted to go down under
• 49:50
  the stage, like she ends every other show, she would do that.
• 49:52
  Like they would make that happen for her and she would tell.
• 49:55
  Them the door just closed. You can't go down that door.
• 49:58
  Right. Like that's, that's how that
• 50:00
  works. This is her show.
• 50:01
  She can do whatever the fuck she wants.
• 50:02
  She knew she was gonna hug all the dancers on stage and they
• 50:05
  were gonna have that moment. Like it's the last show.
• 50:08
  That's just kind of what happened.
• 50:09
  So she knew she was gonna be leaving through the back door
• 50:13
  and she knew that we have been talking about that being the
• 50:17
  karma door for, yeah, however long on the errors tour.
• 50:21
  Like I feel like since that orange door, people noticed it.
• 50:23
  They were like. Yeah, we've been.
• 50:24
  Talking about that, what is that like?
• 50:25
  Yeah, right. So it's like she knows that
• 50:27
  that's been a conversation and that if her going through the
• 50:32
  back of the stage like that was going to lead people to believe
• 50:34
  that. So unless she's really trying to
• 50:36
  throw us off in some way. But she's also been talking
• 50:38
  about karma for so long and in so many different ways.
• 50:41
  And like, like we keep coming back to the midnight era because
• 50:44
  of karma and because there's like more that's unfinished with
• 50:49
  that. So yes.
• 50:51
  And the people who say it's not orange, like, I don't know,
• 50:53
  where's your sense of imagination?
• 50:55
  Enjoy magic and fun. Like it's, it's not that deep,
• 50:59
  right? It was, do you trust me?
• 51:01
  Something else? I forget, do you think that she
• 51:05
  is still like on the yellow brick road?
• 51:08
  Like where do you think that theory is now?
• 51:11
  That's a good. Because I don't even really know
• 51:13
  if I've really thought about it. I feel like maybe she's still on
• 51:17
  her like journey. Yeah, I feel like.
• 51:19
  Yeah, Like, yes, because I don't feel like there was ever any
• 51:23
  real closure to it, you know what I mean?
• 51:25
  And like, it's something that she's referenced again in the
• 51:27
  Karma music video. She's on the yellow brick road
• 51:29
  in her Dorothy little costume, in her little outfit.
• 51:33
  And so I think yes, she is, but I don't know again how that's
• 51:37
  going to look. And like, I do think the Yellow
• 51:40
  Brick Road and Karma are really linked together, and I think
• 51:44
  we're going to come back to both of them at some point.
• 51:47
  But I feel like it's so annoying sometimes because she plans
• 51:51
  things out like so far where it's like, I think sometimes we
• 51:55
  get little pieces of something and then it's like a really long
• 51:57
  break before we get more. And she knows, like, OK, my next
• 52:00
  album or my next music video or the next art I put out is going
• 52:05
  to circle back to this story, but we just kind of get stuck.
• 52:08
  Yeah. Waiting and I feel like with the
• 52:10
  errors to her ending, it has felt really like not like what's
• 52:12
  next? Like, I don't want to be like,
• 52:14
  give us more, give us more. But like, just knowing Taylor
• 52:17
  stuff, like there's always something that's coming next and
• 52:20
  there's always something that she's planning.
• 52:21
  And I don't think she would be at all, these Chiefs games
• 52:25
  making all these appearances if there wasn't something she
• 52:27
  wanted to keep everyone's attention on her for, like.
• 52:30
  Yes, I was just going to say that because I remember like
• 52:34
  after the air sewer ended, we were all like, OK, this is first
• 52:39
  of all, interesting show to end it on.
• 52:41
  And I do think that was first of all, OK to say literally assume
• 52:45
  me grow up that this this concert seemed less of a closure
• 52:53
  and a Big Bang than maybe we're expecting.
• 52:56
  And I think is increasing our attention to like wait for
• 53:00
  something else. He's been so public.
• 53:04
  She's just been like. Everywhere, the games and out of
• 53:07
  New York and right, yeah. And I don't think she's going to
• 53:10
  have babies with Travis and take time off like especially because
• 53:16
  she hasn't released her reputation and the people that
• 53:19
  are saying and debut, the people that are saying like, oh, let
• 53:23
  her take a break. And like these albums I bet
• 53:25
  she's already recorded like I bet TS.
• 53:28
  What are we on TS12? Yeah.
• 53:31
  Feels like we've been on TS12 for a while but his club has
• 53:34
  already reported. Rep has already reported.
• 53:37
  Like 100% it's not like you're asking.
• 53:39
  Her to go back to work like right?
• 53:41
  You know, and like, she's Taylor Swift.
• 53:43
  That's like, she has said so many times, she loves her
• 53:47
  career. She loves making music.
• 53:48
  She loves doing this. And so I don't feel like it's
• 53:52
  that crazy to be like, yeah, what's what's going to be next?
• 53:55
  Like, let's talk about it. That's not us being like, give
• 53:57
  it to us now, but like. We're not talking about her
• 54:00
  fertility. Right.
• 54:03
  Freaking weirdos. And the craziest day, I feel
• 54:07
  like for me, and I was really tweaking this day and I think I
• 54:11
  single handedly like created theories that I don't think even
• 54:14
  panned out. But the day that she wore that
• 54:17
  yellow sweater and was like back to work and was holding her cat.
• 54:23
  And that was Karlie Kloss's birthday and wait, no, Karlie
• 54:27
  Kloss and. The They're at their wedding.
• 54:30
  Anniversary and it was also national no beard day and I was
• 54:36
  on a bus and I was like holy shit, it's like what's gonna
• 54:42
  happen? The glitch is over like I but
• 54:47
  anyways. That's I love Gaylord crash out
• 54:49
  days. I'm not gonna lie.
• 54:50
  That was me when and you were at the show.
• 54:52
  I think when Carly Kloss was at the Arrows tour.
• 54:55
  Yes, I was, I was working at camp.
• 54:59
  So I was like in I was staying in a cabin with like 20 other
• 55:03
  people and we'd like put all the campers to bed.
• 55:06
  And so I was like on TikTok. My girlfriend wasn't my
• 55:09
  girlfriend yet, but she also works at camp and she was
• 55:11
  working night duty. So she was like overnight in the
• 55:14
  cabin with the campers. And I was in our like staff
• 55:18
  cabin and we were like texting each other like, Oh my God, what
• 55:21
  the fuck is happening? What the fuck?
• 55:22
  Yeah, it was like one of our first, like, we called it like a
• 55:25
  date, but it wasn't a date because we like weren't
• 55:26
  together, but we were both. And she went from like not
• 55:31
  knowing any Taylor Swift songs, not knowing anything about
• 55:33
  Taylor Swift to watching live streams with me, like Mastermind
• 55:37
  doing all the things. Yeah.
• 55:39
  And so she was watching it and I was like, Oh my talking God,
• 55:41
  Kylie Kloss is there. And she was like, what the fuck?
• 55:44
  Like. And then we were talking about
• 55:45
  the blue outfits and she was like, do you think 1989 is
• 55:48
  happening? Like but I was in the base of it
• 55:52
  was so fun and so cute and but I was in the basement of this
• 55:55
  cabin like where the laundry is just watching a live stream like
• 55:59
  jumping around screaming. I saw the pictures of Carly
• 56:02
  Klaus and I was like Oh my God. I think I made like 25 tik toks
• 56:07
  that night like because I just was like what the fuck what the
• 56:10
  fuck. Like and like 2 days before I
• 56:12
  had made a TikTok when or no it must have been like a week
• 56:15
  before because I said Carly's going to show up on her birthday
• 56:18
  and Taylor's going to announce 1989.
• 56:19
  And obviously it wasn't Carly's birthday but it was like 6 days
• 56:23
  later and she showed up. And so I was like Oh my God,
• 56:25
  it's actually going to happen. Like she's going to announce
• 56:27
  1989 with Carly there and then she then.
• 56:31
  And that was my crash out day where I was just like.
• 56:35
  That was what's going on because like, I wasn't even supposed to
• 56:39
  go to that concert. Like I was living in LA and all
• 56:42
  my friends like we had, so my cousin was visiting me and my
• 56:45
  cousin had already been to Philly.
• 56:47
  And I was like, I don't have enough money to go to the show.
• 56:50
  She was like, I don't have enough money to go to the show.
• 56:52
  And I was like, oh, it's like the last day of like, because at
• 56:56
  that point we didn't think she was ever coming back to the US
• 56:58
  So I was, I was the last year again.
• 57:00
  Yeah, she's in LA. I'm here.
• 57:04
  I know it's $1000 a ticket but. But like, fuck it, like.
• 57:09
  All my savings and I was like and by myself.
• 57:12
  You were in the same room as Carly and Taylor, like at the
• 57:15
  same time. I.
• 57:16
  Crashed the date but I like popped a gummy went by myself.
• 57:20
  I was in standing room only blocked half of the screen, but
• 57:23
  I was in the same like level that Carly was and I heard
• 57:26
  people like like skirmishing around and I was like making
• 57:29
  friends. I'm like hi Justin, is anyone
• 57:31
  else here alone? Like, it was just weird.
• 57:34
  And I was like, seeing people and I saw this, like, tall
• 57:37
  brunette girl walk by with a bunch of people, like, scribbled
• 57:40
  around and I was around her. Yeah, no.
• 57:42
  And then I checked Twitter and it confirmed.
• 57:45
  And my edible was hitting and I was like, holy shit.
• 57:48
  And then it came out and like, blew.
• 57:51
  And like, obviously 19, it was confirmed.
• 57:53
  That was crazy. And let us all remember that a
• 57:56
  month after this, she is spotted with Travis Kelce for the first
• 58:00
  time in the Chiefs game. That's how fucking quick he came
• 58:04
  into the picture. And it just feels like she came
• 58:07
  and got her back. They were like, we need a beard
• 58:10
  stat. Oh.
• 58:11
  Quickly like a guy. In Kansas City, in.
• 58:14
  Football. It just feels so.
• 58:16
  Crazy and that was like a crazy summer because that was after
• 58:20
  Joel went after Maddie Healey, before Travis Kelsey.
• 58:24
  It was like Gaylord heaven. I swear to God like that, like
• 58:26
  July and August, she. Has to have beards but I would
• 58:29
  love if she was like single for like longer than like a month.
• 58:33
  You know me too. Like I love single girl era,
• 58:36
  it's so fun. Right, let's talk about a few of
• 58:39
  these TPPD songs, like the gayest ones, then we can close
• 58:44
  out. Oh wait, let me see if I'm
• 58:45
  missing anything else. That was like a crazy gaylor
• 58:47
  highlight. Oh, her singing I kissed a girl.
• 58:49
  The VMA is crazy. Taylor, that was.
• 58:52
  Crazy and confirming Taylor is James, which everyone forgets.
• 58:58
  Everyone forgets all the time, but it has happened like two or
• 59:00
  three Times Now. Like it happened in those lyrics
• 59:03
  that Taylor capitalized me and right, James and Taylor Nation
• 59:09
  tweeted at one point a picture or a GIF of Taylor and was like
• 59:13
  don't forget James or something. And I feel like there was like
• 59:16
  one more thing where they have confirmed.
• 59:17
  Like there was something else. Yeah, like this teenage boy
• 59:20
  writing about being in love with a girl that's actually just
• 59:22
  Taylor writing, like, writing that song.
• 59:25
  And everyone's like, oh, but she's still strange.
• 59:27
  Like, and then Taylor longingly staring at the lesbians who had
• 59:31
  just gotten engaged during cardigan and she was holding on
• 59:34
  to that pole and she was like, I wish I could do that.
• 59:37
  Literally and like stared at them like so far through the
• 59:41
  crowd just like, wow, they're whatever.
• 59:44
  And then congratulated them and Taylor Nation, I think said
• 59:47
  something about. I think they did.
• 59:49
  I like the. Golden love, like yeah and like.
• 59:52
  Confirming. We're celebrating golden love,
• 59:55
  right? Golden love is queer love,
• 59:59
  Taylor. And Lawrence singing that entire
• 1:00:02
  thing, they were like holding each other's hands on each
• 1:00:05
  other. Literally like grasping each
• 1:00:07
  other. When Taylor got down on her
• 1:00:08
  knees. I was like, OK, OK, girl.
• 1:00:11
  Like, we get it, we get it. Are they together like?
• 1:00:17
  And like kissing her on the face after like they they just give
• 1:00:21
  like 2 sapphic besties who are like I love you so much like I.
• 1:00:25
  Love you. I love you.
• 1:00:25
  Yeah. And I'm pretty sure Florence
• 1:00:27
  Welch has confirmed being queer, or maybe not confirmed it, but
• 1:00:30
  like, I don't know. I went to a Florence Welch
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  concert in like 2015 and she had us all take our shirts off and
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  whip them around and I was like, OK, period queen like.
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  OK, she's not publicly identified, but also that's AI
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  saying that. And I don't really believe that
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  there's a lot of people talking about like her being with girls
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  and like. She has her own.
• 1:00:50
  Is about it, yeah. She's got her own voice, which
• 1:00:52
  maybe we'll step into. Period.
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  Period. Talking Travis on stage during I
• 1:00:59
  can do the breaking, broken heart and like putting makeup on
• 1:01:02
  him. Did he put makeup on himself?
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  Yeah. And he put it on her, and he,
• 1:01:06
  like, put it on his beard. Was that and the performance art
• 1:01:10
  of it all. And the fact that, like, we had
• 1:01:14
  already analyzed that part of the Eras Tour and been like, oh,
• 1:01:16
  my God, this is crazy. They're literally like, picking
• 1:01:18
  her up off the ground and dressing her up like a doll and
• 1:01:22
  forcing her to perform. And she's singing about how she
• 1:01:26
  can show her own lies after being dressed up like this doll.
• 1:01:29
  And then she brought him on stage for that specific part of
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  the Eras Tour, like. I can show you lies.
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  Here's here's one of them. Right.
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  Like I'm miserable, nobody even knows because I have this man
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  attached to me but I'm actually I fucking hate it here.
• 1:01:43
  Like, and the only way I can like believe that, like she's
• 1:01:48
  like happy with like Travis. He's like, if she's gay and
• 1:01:53
  she's like rooting for her like gay best friend.
• 1:01:55
  Right. No, literally.
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  Then all of a sudden I would be like Oh my God, I love him like
• 1:01:58
  I would. The picture of her and Travis
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  and Ross from her, the birthday party that they had for her, I
• 1:02:08
  loved it. So much matching rings.
• 1:02:11
  They're matching pinky rings, gay as fuck.
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  But that to me really gave the energy of like, oh, OK, you're
• 1:02:16
  just like a lesbian and these are your gay best friends.
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  That you my boyfriend's boyfriend.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah, exactly like that. You just, like, hang out with
• 1:02:24
  you, pretend to be straight together to, like, protect each
• 1:02:26
  other, but you're secretly all like, Kiki and watching fucking
• 1:02:29
  Drag Race together. Like that is the energy that
• 1:02:32
  they give me. Kiki, that's so sad.
• 1:02:35
  Exactly. People were excited about the
• 1:02:36
  relationship, whatever, it's serum prerogative.
• 1:02:39
  But like people saying that that's like the highlight of
• 1:02:42
  their experience of the heirs who were.
• 1:02:45
  I just find that weird when like the entirety is surrounding her
• 1:02:49
  relationship rather than like even your relationship to her
• 1:02:53
  music or like her being on stage and the fact that she had to
• 1:02:57
  close out. And I get it, it's for
• 1:02:59
  performance Artler, but it's still like stings when she
• 1:03:02
  closed it out by saying Karma is the guy in the chiefs.
• 1:03:06
  It's just like, oh God, really? We're ending with that.
• 1:03:10
  Like and it sounds like my favorite moment of all time.
• 1:03:12
  Like I swear like when she sang that indie people cheered louder
• 1:03:17
  during that part than any other part during the era is to where
• 1:03:20
  it's like you love her boyfriend more than her.
• 1:03:24
  Right. And like her attachment to a
• 1:03:25
  man, yeah, so many other parts of the areas to her too that I'm
• 1:03:29
  like, how are you not like losing your shit of vigilante
• 1:03:32
  shit? How are you not losing your shit
• 1:03:34
  during? You need to calm down like all
• 1:03:36
  these other moments that are so fun and exciting and that's what
• 1:03:39
  gets you. Right.
• 1:03:41
  And then we can close by doing a little shout out for TTPD
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  because I know we all kind of forget that it was this year.
• 1:03:47
  I mean, at least I forget that it was this year.
• 1:03:49
  Me too and it feels like we've had TTPD for so long, like since
• 1:03:53
  it was part of the ERA tour, I feel like it just like blended
• 1:03:56
  in just. Funny, like her timeline is like
• 1:03:58
  she squeezes so much into a year that it's hard to remember
• 1:04:02
  everything. And I think that's also
• 1:04:05
  convenient because when she says stuff that's really gay, people
• 1:04:09
  forget about it. Like Chloe, Sam, Sophia Marcus,
• 1:04:13
  regardless of gaylorism she is either talking about a girl that
• 1:04:23
  she's interested in or a bi man and that is queer like.
• 1:04:28
  Hands down. And I feel like people just were
• 1:04:31
  like. Anyways, it's like, so funny,
• 1:04:34
  you know, like that. Like formally introduced
• 1:04:37
  bisexuality into the Taylor Swift cinematic universe.
• 1:04:41
  Like that song was like, this person that I am with is
• 1:04:46
  cheating on me with men and women.
• 1:04:48
  Like it's essentially the message of that.
• 1:04:51
  Song that I'm. Being cheated on with both men
• 1:04:53
  and women. Like regardless of that's a man
• 1:04:55
  cheating on her or a woman cheating on her, the person
• 1:04:58
  that's cheating on her is bisexual or queer in some.
• 1:05:02
  Some way? Form And she said that and yeah
• 1:05:04
  literally everyone was just like OK anyways, like I'm like no, do
• 1:05:08
  not realize that that's probably like intentional that she's like
• 1:05:11
  doing that for a reason like because she wants you to start.
• 1:05:14
  Seeing and hearing, thinking about sexuality in different
• 1:05:17
  ways and like like the news is not necessarily always the
• 1:05:22
  opposite gender like. Right.
• 1:05:24
  Yeah, like. And then just I think she said
• 1:05:27
  closet 2 times if not three times pull you into the closet
• 1:05:32
  closets of cedar and TTP. I don't know the I'm going to
• 1:05:36
  get you back, pull you into the closet lyric is crazy to me
• 1:05:39
  because that whole song I'm like, what else?
• 1:05:42
  Well, first of all, like once you fix your face, I'm going in,
• 1:05:45
  what would a man be doing to fix their face?
• 1:05:46
  Like that to me is very like, once you fix your mug, once you
• 1:05:49
  fix what's going on, OK, I'm going in on you.
• 1:05:53
  And then whether I'm going to like she says something or pull
• 1:05:56
  you into the closet, like what? What else would that would that
• 1:06:00
  mean besides like, I'm going to bring you into the closet with
• 1:06:02
  me. I'm going to make you be
• 1:06:04
  closeted with me. Besides hiding queerness.
• 1:06:07
  Like I, I just, I don't, I genuinely don't know what else
• 1:06:10
  that could mean or what you could be referencing with that.
• 1:06:13
  Yeah, and all of this comes after gaylords have been talking
• 1:06:18
  very loudly on the Internet about her saying like, and you
• 1:06:22
  don't have to hide in the closet during 7.
• 1:06:24
  And like talking about her saying that if for some reason,
• 1:06:29
  which she isn't, she's straight and doesn't want to lead us on,
• 1:06:33
  she's someone would be like, hey, just so you know, you've
• 1:06:37
  said closet a few times in this album.
• 1:06:40
  People are going to think that that's gay.
• 1:06:43
  She'd be like, oh, I didn't even think that.
• 1:06:44
  Let me take it out. Like this goes through so many
• 1:06:47
  people. They're like, hey, did you mean
• 1:06:49
  to say that? She's like, yes, did you mean to
• 1:06:51
  say like that you are guilty as sin?
• 1:06:55
  And you've been talking about religious trauma and the closet
• 1:07:00
  and all this stuff. All these things like she's
• 1:07:03
  like, yeah, well, and she knows Gaylors exist.
• 1:07:06
  Like she has known about Gaylors.
• 1:07:09
  Gaylors have been around since beginning beginning days of
• 1:07:14
  Taylor Swift since that SNL roomies scale.
• 1:07:16
  Like that is what really sparked galerism online and the online
• 1:07:20
  discourse of like, is she is she signaling something to us here?
• 1:07:25
  And so if she didn't want that happening, she wouldn't do these
• 1:07:28
  things that feed into the speculation.
• 1:07:30
  She wouldn't have lyrics. I'm going to pull you into the
• 1:07:32
  closet. Like if she was trying to
• 1:07:34
  reference, I'm going to pull you into this room so we can be by
• 1:07:37
  ourselves. Sort of said it in a different
• 1:07:39
  way, You know, like she knows what people are going to say,
• 1:07:43
  right? Like.
• 1:07:44
  We went to the closet. It doesn't like closet I.
• 1:07:48
  Haven't decided yet, but I'm going to get you back.
• 1:07:51
  Like, OK girlie, we get it, we get it.
• 1:07:53
  It's insane even though we could keep yapping.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, so we need to do a Part 2 like you should have so much to
• 1:07:59
  yap about. Yay, thank you so much for
• 1:08:02
  joining like this is. So much fun.
• 1:08:05
  So for anyone listening this who isn't already following Jordan
• 1:08:07
  because I feel like everyone probably is, but go follow her
• 1:08:10
  on DJ Crocs and then I'll link everything else on whatever
• 1:08:15
  you're listening platform on Apple, Spotify or YouTube.
• 1:08:18
  It'll be in the notes. I will also have links to my
• 1:08:21
  merch and to subscribe and everything else we might need.
• 1:08:26
  Also, for anyone else listening who is new here, I release
• 1:08:28
  episodes every Tuesday. So even though we're recording
• 1:08:32
  this on Inauguration Day, which unfortunate reminder, Trump is
• 1:08:35
  no president, I. Literally forgot.
• 1:08:39
  I literally forgot because we were yapping so much.
• 1:08:41
  Like like when? It comes out happened, I'm sure
• 1:08:46
  he's probably signed 1,000,000 executive orders and we're going
• 1:08:50
  to be there for each other. And I'm also going to link some
• 1:08:52
  like other resources if people are like not doing well because
• 1:08:55
  that's so fair because it's a very scary time, but we're going
• 1:08:58
  to get through together, OK? I think that's it.
• 1:09:01
  Thank you so much for joining. Thank you.
• 1:09:03
  I had so much fun and we will definitely have to do it.
• 1:09:06
  Yeah, again, absolutely. Because we have so much, so much
• 1:09:09
  to gap. About so much we could go for
• 1:09:10
  hours. Bye everyone.
• 1:09:11
  Bye.