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- 0:00Speaker 1: I heard radio stiction, Garanteed, human Love, sad Alone and
- 0:05Speaker 1: any Marsh totally my love springious.
- 0:13Speaker 2: She totally confused.
- 0:17Speaker 1: She's hey, good morning. We are live from Peoria, Arizona
- 0:24Speaker 1: Mariner's spring training coverage. It is underway here on this
- 0:27Speaker 1: President's Day. So who do you interview on President's Day?
- 0:32Speaker 1: A president? A president joining us now, Jerry Depoto is
- 0:36Speaker 1: with us live here at spring training. Great to see you.
- 0:40Speaker 3: It is.
- 0:40Speaker 4: It's a joy. It's a joy, beautiful weather. We've been
- 0:44Speaker 4: down here a week now and the guys showed out.
- 0:47Speaker 4: It's it's spring training is a fun time.
- 0:49Speaker 1: It is here, It is here, and it just seems
- 0:52Speaker 1: to me I started the show with us today. Maybe
- 0:54Speaker 1: I'm reading into it because of the close of last
- 0:58Speaker 1: year and the excitement of the offseason and everything else,
- 1:01Speaker 1: but it feels like there's a little different air. It
- 1:03Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, hey, we got to trace down those astros.
- 1:06Speaker 1: It feels like we're the team to beat. Kind of
- 1:09Speaker 1: confidence around here. Would you would you agree with that?
- 1:12Speaker 4: I would agree with that, you know, without trying to
- 1:14Speaker 4: get a little over the top. Yeah, you know, our
- 1:17Speaker 4: guys are confident. We we know we have a good team,
- 1:20Speaker 4: and we experienced a lot of things last year. We
- 1:22Speaker 4: came up a couple out shorts of going to the
- 1:24Speaker 4: World Series, and and and that gave our guys that
- 1:27Speaker 4: that the confidence necessary to believe that we can go
- 1:31Speaker 4: out there and really run it. It's we have we
- 1:35Speaker 4: have stars, we have personalities, we have depth, we have pitching.
- 1:38Speaker 4: It's a there's a lot of things that we're doing
- 1:40Speaker 4: right now, and I think the league around us is noticing.
- 1:43Speaker 4: I think generally speaking, we we go in with a
- 1:46Speaker 4: pretty favorable outlook on twenty twenty six.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Every single player.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And I'm sure you carry this even up to being
- 1:53Speaker 2: you know, general manager and now print you know president.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I mean, the the idea of you have to always
- 1:58Speaker 2: be improving. You getting as good as you guys got
- 2:01Speaker 2: last year, not good enough. You want it. You have
- 2:03Speaker 2: somewhere you need to go. So overarching thoughts on what
- 2:07Speaker 2: it was you were wanting to do to improve the squad.
- 2:09Speaker 4: You know, we had three big things we wanted to address,
- 2:12Speaker 4: and we hit him while we were going into the
- 2:14Speaker 4: off season. The number one was bringing back Josh Naylor.
- 2:17Speaker 4: You know, uh he cooperated and that happened, you know,
- 2:21Speaker 4: early in the off season, which really, you know, made
- 2:23Speaker 4: our off season possible because it's a if we were
- 2:27Speaker 4: waiting all off season long to see how that turned out,
- 2:31Speaker 4: you know, a lot of doors could potentially close, But
- 2:33Speaker 4: you know it worked out to our advantage. And and
- 2:36Speaker 4: Nails is here for the next five years at least,
- 2:38Speaker 4: and and and really has been from the day we
- 2:41Speaker 4: acquired him through the start of this camp just a
- 2:44Speaker 4: it's a I hate to use something as simple as
- 2:47Speaker 4: just a shot in the arm. He just lifts everybody up.
- 2:49Speaker 4: He's he's smart, he's he's thoughtful, he's a great teammate,
- 2:53Speaker 4: an excellent player. So that was number one. Number two
- 2:57Speaker 4: was adding impact at the back end of our bullpen.
- 2:59Speaker 4: And we feel like we did that with the acquisition
- 3:01Speaker 4: of Jose Ferrer from Washington and obviously cost us a
- 3:06Speaker 4: prospect that we held in pretty high regard, but he's
- 3:09Speaker 4: was sink and slide and he's got an above average
- 3:12Speaker 4: change up and and I feel like with Gabe Spy
- 3:15Speaker 4: or Matt Brash, Andre's Munoz Edward Bizardo really gives us
- 3:19Speaker 4: that type of back end that you see in championship teams,
- 3:22Speaker 4: which was a goal. And then we wanted to add
- 3:25Speaker 4: that one more back to lengthen the lineup. And that
- 3:28Speaker 4: one took a while.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You know.
- 3:29Speaker 4: It was someone said to me, man the offseason flew.
- 3:32Speaker 4: I said, yeah, unless you were sitting waiting for the
- 3:34Speaker 4: Cardinals to trade us Brendon Donovan.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But that was stretched out a little while.
- 3:39Speaker 4: It took a while, but you know, ultimately we landed
- 3:42Speaker 4: the guy that we had our eyes set on the
- 3:44Speaker 4: whole time. And and here in the early going in
- 3:47Speaker 4: spring training, it's it's been worth the wait. He's he's
- 3:50Speaker 4: everything we thought he would be from a makeup emotional
- 3:53Speaker 4: you know, it's an energy, just a quality player who's
- 3:57Speaker 4: a pro and goes about his business the right way.
- 3:59Speaker 1: So what do you envision for him and where he
- 4:03Speaker 1: plays on the field that.
- 4:05Speaker 4: You know in Brendan's case, and I talked to him
- 4:07Speaker 4: about this the day we acquired him. You know, we
- 4:09Speaker 4: want his focus when he's coming into spring training to
- 4:12Speaker 4: be third base. It's a position he has played a
- 4:15Speaker 4: fair bit in his career, but not in recent years
- 4:17Speaker 4: because he was playing with Nolan Arnauto And I guess
- 4:20Speaker 4: when you're playing with a Hall of famer, you don't
- 4:22Speaker 4: get the reps. Yeah, but you know, Brendan is. He
- 4:26Speaker 4: is like the super Swiss army knife defender who can
- 4:30Speaker 4: do just about anything defensively on a field. He's played everywhere.
- 4:34Speaker 4: You know, we're not going to ask him to pitch
- 4:36Speaker 4: catch or play center, but it's right now we're viewing
- 4:39Speaker 4: him as the likely opening day third baseman. And one
- 4:43Speaker 4: of the reasons why Brendan was such an appealing target
- 4:45Speaker 4: for us in the off season is because of his versatility,
- 4:48Speaker 4: it allowed our young players to continue to grow and
- 4:51Speaker 4: their growth their assent to the big leagues isn't hindered
- 4:56Speaker 4: but by someone blocking them. It's Brendan could just go
- 5:00Speaker 4: be a good player and move around the diamond in ways,
- 5:03Speaker 4: even if it's playing a different position every day, So
- 5:06Speaker 4: that leaves the door open for us to take the
- 5:08Speaker 4: big step forward. Brendan makes us a better, more stable
- 5:12Speaker 4: team the day he shows up, but our real growth
- 5:15Speaker 4: comes from the young players taking steps forward, and that's
- 5:18Speaker 4: not hindered by adding Donovan. So then how does that
- 5:21Speaker 4: handicap I guess if I were betting in Vegas, Cole
- 5:25Speaker 4: Young did good things for us. In middle of the
- 5:27Speaker 4: summer last year. There was a four or five week
- 5:30Speaker 4: stretch where He played about as good an offensive you know,
- 5:34Speaker 4: second base as you can play. He was among the
- 5:37Speaker 4: four or five best hitters at his position in the league.
- 5:39Speaker 4: And toward the end he took on a little water.
- 5:41Speaker 4: He got tired. Obviously, we left him off the postseason
- 5:44Speaker 4: roster in favor of Polanco, who was swinging a hot bat.
- 5:48Speaker 4: And yeah, it's Cole Young is a good young player.
- 5:51Speaker 4: He's twenty two years old. You can tell he took
- 5:53Speaker 4: his offseason very seriously. He comes in as the favorite
- 5:57Speaker 4: if I were betting man. But there are a lot
- 5:59Speaker 4: of good players in this camp, and you know, all
- 6:02Speaker 4: age twenty two or younger. Cole Young. I mentioned Michael Arroyo,
- 6:05Speaker 4: and obviously Colt Emerson. We're getting Michael some reps at
- 6:09Speaker 4: third base. Colt Emerson is taking some reps at third base.
- 6:12Speaker 4: He's played both shortstop and second base. Again, versatility is
- 6:16Speaker 4: the key.
- 6:17Speaker 2: You're talking about Cole Young and how he obviously took
- 6:19Speaker 2: the offseason seriously. How about Colt Emerson. Donovan could be
- 6:23Speaker 2: a guy that could play second if he plays third base.
- 6:25Speaker 2: So how's he looking into the beginning.
- 6:27Speaker 4: To camp Like he always looks. He takes everything seriously.
- 6:31Speaker 4: You know, Colt works hard. He is He's an incredibly
- 6:34Speaker 4: mature player. You'd never know if sitting down that he
- 6:38Speaker 4: is twenty years old and has you know, played sparingly
- 6:41Speaker 4: above double A. And I think the quality of what
- 6:46Speaker 4: he brings in every fast of the game. He hits
- 6:48Speaker 4: all the boxes, he runs a little bit, he throws,
- 6:52Speaker 4: he plays defense, he's versatile, he hits, he gets on base,
- 6:55Speaker 4: he's got some power's and he's young and he picks
- 6:59Speaker 4: it up pretty quickly. So you know, we've generally been
- 7:02Speaker 4: of the mindset, and this has been a number of
- 7:04Speaker 4: years now when guys come in and they're ready to
- 7:07Speaker 4: do their thing, and we think they have a chance
- 7:09Speaker 4: to be difference making players. We just don't get in
- 7:12Speaker 4: their way. Give them, give them the opportunity to go
- 7:15Speaker 4: do what they do. You know, and I say that
- 7:17Speaker 4: there's some depth on this team that hasn't existed in
- 7:20Speaker 4: years past. And we go in as the defending AOS champs.
- 7:24Speaker 4: We do have World Series aspirations, and you know, you're
- 7:27Speaker 4: gonna have to get it done in order to make
- 7:29Speaker 4: your way onto the team, and Colt has both the
- 7:32Speaker 4: skill and the focus to make that happen.
- 7:35Speaker 1: For our audience's purpose because I think even you and
- 7:39Speaker 1: Justin and others are struggling with this. How excited should
- 7:43Speaker 1: they be about Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan And how
- 7:46Speaker 1: much do we need to limit our excitement for these
- 7:50Speaker 1: two players.
- 7:51Speaker 4: It's hard to limit the excitement. You know, I'm not
- 7:55Speaker 4: one to limit excitement. And you know, as these these
- 7:58Speaker 4: last couple of days, as they've thrown their lives, first
- 8:01Speaker 4: time throwing live two hitters in a major league camp.
- 8:04Speaker 4: Both of them have thrown lives in shoved camp in
- 8:08Speaker 4: January headed into early February, but this was the first
- 8:11Speaker 4: time to see them throw against major league hitters. They
- 8:13Speaker 4: didn't throw against invites or minor league free agents. They
- 8:17Speaker 4: threw against guys who played in All Star Games last
- 8:19Speaker 4: year and they stood out, which is hard to do
- 8:22Speaker 4: in a camp that has this kind of talent. But
- 8:25Speaker 4: you know, I'll start with Kate Anderson because he threw first. Obviously,
- 8:29Speaker 4: the thing I'll hit with Cad. We just got incredibly
- 8:32Speaker 4: lucky that they picked our ping pong ball, lucky that
- 8:35Speaker 4: somebody picked the ball. The best pitcher in the country
- 8:38Speaker 4: at LSU as an amateur coming out, it was as
- 8:41Speaker 4: polished as you're going to see not just what he
- 8:44Speaker 4: does on the mound, but who he is as a person,
- 8:47Speaker 4: his war habits, his focus. Seemed like a guy that
- 8:51Speaker 4: probably wasn't going to stay in the minor leagues for
- 8:53Speaker 4: very long. And that's the feel you get when you
- 8:57Speaker 4: watch him pitch. There's it's certainly not a guy that's
- 9:00Speaker 4: likely to spend much time at the low levels of
- 9:02Speaker 4: the minor leagues. And you know, it's it's so sharp.
- 9:05Speaker 4: It's all the pitches. It's the precision as fastball gets
- 9:09Speaker 4: up to ninety six ninety seven, sits around ninety three
- 9:12Speaker 4: ninety four and has a finish to it that you
- 9:15Speaker 4: just don't normally see. And the special part about Kaide
- 9:19Speaker 4: is the command that he has of his secondary pitches.
- 9:22Speaker 4: He's got them all. And you know, he looks like
- 9:24Speaker 4: he could pitch in the Atlanta Braves rotation in the
- 9:26Speaker 4: nineties and you wouldn't blink. Ryan Sloan three yesterday. Ryan
- 9:31Speaker 4: is he's young. He looks like he's twelve, and he
- 9:35Speaker 4: throws like he's been in the big leagues for ten years.
- 9:38Speaker 4: You know it's it's he's big, he's physical. His first lives,
- 9:42Speaker 4: he was ninety seven and ninety nine with explosive fastball.
- 9:46Speaker 4: He threw a two seamer that we hadn't really seen
- 9:48Speaker 4: before that that again, explosive is the only word I
- 9:51Speaker 4: can use. A slider that makes you buckle. It's uh.
- 9:56Speaker 4: Both of these guys have the all of the ingredients
- 9:58Speaker 4: to pitch at the front of major league rotations. And
- 10:01Speaker 4: you know they're they're twenty and twenty one years old.
- 10:03Speaker 4: It shouldn't take very long for them to come. But
- 10:06Speaker 4: they got. Like we talked about with Colt and the
- 10:08Speaker 4: depth that we have around the field, we got five
- 10:10Speaker 4: pretty good starters in the big leagues too, which is
- 10:12Speaker 4: a good problem to have.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Do you ever see Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome? Remember that movie?
- 10:16Speaker 1: I remember that there was highlight, there was Master Blaster,
- 10:20Speaker 1: and there was this And that's what Ryan Sloane reminds
- 10:23Speaker 1: me of because from across the field, Master Blaster, Blaster,
- 10:27Speaker 1: well Master was the mind behind it. And then Blaster
- 10:30Speaker 1: was this like the Mountain kind of Hulk figure and
- 10:33Speaker 1: you sew him from it and everybody was afraid of him.
- 10:36Speaker 1: And then he took off his mask and he was
- 10:37Speaker 1: just a child. He had this baby face and like
- 10:41Speaker 1: he's just a child. Don't hurt him. And when Sloan
- 10:44Speaker 1: walked up, I'm like, you look like you're ten years
- 10:47Speaker 1: old with a bock U. Yeah, well, and you look
- 10:50Speaker 1: like the mountain from the neck down together.
- 10:53Speaker 3: He does have that.
- 10:54Speaker 1: You know.
- 10:54Speaker 4: It's when you I'm not the greatest scout in the
- 10:58Speaker 4: history of the world, but I've done it for long
- 10:59Speaker 4: enough to know that. You know, the easiest thing to
- 11:02Speaker 4: identify his physicality. And Ryan Sloan from eighteen years old
- 11:06Speaker 4: when we first scouted him had all the physical attributes
- 11:10Speaker 4: of a front end major league starter. What we didn't
- 11:13Speaker 4: really expect until we got to know him a little
- 11:15Speaker 4: bit was how well put together he is, you know, mentally,
- 11:18Speaker 4: emotionally he's he's resilient. I think he has the right
- 11:23Speaker 4: balance of ready to learn and I've got this, which
- 11:28Speaker 4: is a really nice combo.
- 11:29Speaker 2: By the way, in case you were wondering, it's pretty
- 11:31Speaker 2: obvious to see the pride and the happiness like exude
- 11:35Speaker 2: out of you, ooze out of you almost when it
- 11:37Speaker 2: comes to you talking about young pictures, that's pretty obvious
- 11:40Speaker 2: you were a pitcher at one point in time. When
- 11:42Speaker 2: it comes to makeup, I mean I don't know for
- 11:44Speaker 2: sure if these young guys that you have have more
- 11:48Speaker 2: of a guy to look up to than Cal Rawly.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I mean we were talking earlier on our show today
- 11:53Speaker 2: just about Cal Rowly and what expectations would be. I mean,
- 11:56Speaker 2: you hit sixty homers. You know, he was asking, what
- 11:58Speaker 2: do we think an eighty one hundred? I mean, while
- 12:00Speaker 2: I don't want to put any limitations on the guy,
- 12:03Speaker 2: the makeup of this guy, I mean, it almost feels
- 12:06Speaker 2: like he's one that could repeat spectacular historic season.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be hard for me to expect any
- 12:13Speaker 4: more than sixty one. You know, but I say this
- 12:16Speaker 4: about Cal like there's I don't know that you can
- 12:19Speaker 4: really put a put a bar on what he can achieve.
- 12:24Speaker 4: We saw that last year. What he accomplished last year
- 12:27Speaker 4: is so much more than we could have expected the
- 12:30Speaker 4: day we drafted him. As he's come through our system.
- 12:32Speaker 4: You know, I've said this jokingly over the course of
- 12:35Speaker 4: this offseason. You know, Cal went from an awesome secret
- 12:38Speaker 4: in the Pacific Northwest, you know, the thirty five homer,
- 12:42Speaker 4: platinum glove catcher with great leadership skill who really appeals
- 12:45Speaker 4: to every man, to being like an international superstar goes
- 12:49Speaker 4: by one name, and you know, it's it's pretty awesome
- 12:53Speaker 4: to watch that development. And I'll say this about the
- 12:57Speaker 4: effect or the impact that it has on our young kids.
- 13:00Speaker 4: It has an effect on the other twenty five players,
- 13:04Speaker 4: regardless of their age. You know, he takes it so seriously.
- 13:07Speaker 4: His focus, his intensity, his work, it's all just come
- 13:12Speaker 4: so far. And he went from being you know, a
- 13:17Speaker 4: really good you know, I guess, burgeoning star in our
- 13:21Speaker 4: league to becoming a superstar player in a season. And
- 13:25Speaker 4: and I don't think that it was a one time thing.
- 13:27Speaker 4: This is just his skill set. You know, you've got
- 13:30Speaker 4: a switch hitter with power. He really closed up the
- 13:33Speaker 4: platoon hole that he had before. You know, he was
- 13:35Speaker 4: a much better lefty than than righty hitter, and that
- 13:38Speaker 4: is no longer true. He's equally as good from both sides.
- 13:42Speaker 4: He controls a run game, he controls a staff, he's prepared.
- 13:46Speaker 4: I could say as many good things as you want
- 13:49Speaker 4: to say. And the quality of the I guess the
- 13:53Speaker 4: example he sets for the young players is really mirrored
- 13:57Speaker 4: by our other major league players. You know, those young
- 13:59Speaker 4: pitchers we talked about. It's a or Colt Emerson or
- 14:02Speaker 4: Cole young. They have cal they have Brian Wu, they
- 14:05Speaker 4: have Logan Gilbert, they have a group of players around them,
- 14:09Speaker 4: you know that. I think that they all take pride
- 14:12Speaker 4: in passing it on paying it forward with those young
- 14:15Speaker 4: guys because they lived through it, They grew up in
- 14:17Speaker 4: this organization, and I think they take pride in making
- 14:21Speaker 4: sure that the next, you know, iteration of the Mariners
- 14:24Speaker 4: of the next stage of young player has that same
- 14:26Speaker 4: quality when they get their opportunity.
- 14:28Speaker 1: What's a scouting grade in terms of intangibles?
- 14:31Speaker 3: Eighty?
- 14:31Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty, and I say that is true of a
- 14:33Speaker 4: couple of our guys, but call it's a no brainer eighty, right,
- 14:36Speaker 4: And that was true before before he hit sixty, he
- 14:40Speaker 4: was he had eighty intangibles. Then now he's got eighty
- 14:43Speaker 4: intangibles and ninety power on an eightiesc Wow.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto is with us here from spring training. I
- 14:50Speaker 1: do want to get into a couple of other topics.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Hopefully we have time to flush these out the challenge
- 14:55Speaker 1: system this year. What's the organizational philosophy on who gets
- 14:59Speaker 1: the challenge? When you get the challenge, is it just
- 15:01Speaker 1: a couple of players that you're going to give that
- 15:03Speaker 1: to at the plate. How are you going to manage
- 15:06Speaker 1: that as the organization?
- 15:07Speaker 4: Everybody but Randy, Oh yeah, I say that. I say
- 15:13Speaker 4: that jokingly. Randy's been you know, Randy's been prone to
- 15:17Speaker 4: in the early morning sessions that you may have seen
- 15:19Speaker 4: with Kate Anderson or Ryan Sloan, you know, and Randy's
- 15:22Speaker 4: been quick to challenge and and he's not always been.
- 15:26Speaker 4: But uh, you know, everybody, you know, just like we
- 15:29Speaker 4: do with with everything, it's a you know, everybody's going
- 15:32Speaker 4: to have the opportunity to to feel it out, to
- 15:35Speaker 4: get a sense for it. My guess is that the
- 15:37Speaker 4: older players will be more likely to tap it than
- 15:41Speaker 4: than than most. But I would say that the young
- 15:43Speaker 4: players are the ones who actually have the experience doing it, so,
- 15:46Speaker 4: you know, we would encourage those young guys to to
- 15:49Speaker 4: kind of show us the way. And it's last spring
- 15:54Speaker 4: we had the first taste of this at the major
- 15:57Speaker 4: league level and unsurprisingly are eight and Tangible's guy who
- 16:01Speaker 4: we just talked about, was believing or not one hundred
- 16:03Speaker 4: percent on his challenges. He was always right.
- 16:06Speaker 1: I was wondering, you're ever gonna let a pitcher do it?
- 16:08Speaker 1: Or he's just gonna let Cal.
- 16:09Speaker 4: You know, I don't know why you would let the
- 16:11Speaker 4: pitcher do it because the picture and I say this
- 16:14Speaker 4: with the mind or the heart of a pitcher. I
- 16:17Speaker 4: think every pitch I throw right, especially you know with
- 16:20Speaker 4: catchers who framed today, and you know Cal's catching it,
- 16:24Speaker 4: and yeah, he has a pretty good sense. I'm sure
- 16:26Speaker 4: that we're gonna have a picture that feels strongly enough
- 16:28Speaker 4: about it. Then in the moment decides they're going to challenge.
- 16:31Speaker 4: But I think Cal has enough control of the game
- 16:34Speaker 4: that he's more likely to be the one.
- 16:36Speaker 1: WBC this has been a I know, not everybody loves it,
- 16:41Speaker 1: especially executives.
- 16:43Speaker 4: I think we have more players going to the WBC
- 16:46Speaker 4: than any other organization in baseball, which again I think
- 16:49Speaker 4: is a pretty awesome thing. It's just it expresses that
- 16:52Speaker 4: we have talent, that we're diverse. It's going to leave
- 16:56Speaker 4: a big hole in our camp. You know Rob Repschneider,
- 16:58Speaker 4: who we signed in the off season. I'm really thrilled
- 17:01Speaker 4: to have both in the clubhouse and on the field.
- 17:03Speaker 4: Rep said, you know, it's really hard to walk into
- 17:06Speaker 4: a new campany has seventy five guys. You got to
- 17:08Speaker 4: get to know. I said, yeah, In a couple of days,
- 17:10Speaker 4: it's gonna be like fifty, but we are. We're gonna
- 17:14Speaker 4: get hit as hard as anybody generally speaking. You just
- 17:17Speaker 4: cross your fingers on health. You know, guys are gonna go.
- 17:20Speaker 4: And I think right now in the Olympics, if you're
- 17:22Speaker 4: watching Olympic hockey, you see Kevin Fiala, you know, went
- 17:26Speaker 4: down with a leg injury and he's out for the
- 17:27Speaker 4: year for the Kings. That's your biggest fear. Now, I
- 17:31Speaker 4: say that, and I flashed back to last Springs, four
- 17:34Speaker 4: Nations in hockey, this year's you know, Olympics, the WBC,
- 17:38Speaker 4: which comes up every couple of years. There is nothing
- 17:42Speaker 4: you can do in preparing for a major league season
- 17:45Speaker 4: that that gives you this kind of rush, this kind
- 17:48Speaker 4: of competition. It's like playoff and everything that happens is
- 17:53Speaker 4: happening at Defcon one, and you can't replicate that in
- 17:58Speaker 4: spring training. So you just hope that you can get
- 18:01Speaker 4: your guys physically prepared to go do it so that
- 18:04Speaker 4: you know injury is less a concern because what's happening
- 18:07Speaker 4: on the field is so much better in preparing them
- 18:09Speaker 4: for what happens in October than anything we can do here.
- 18:13Speaker 1: What is your response to the statement the Dodgers are
- 18:15Speaker 1: ruining baseball.
- 18:17Speaker 4: I just think they're awesome, you know, and where they're deep,
- 18:21Speaker 4: they have stars everywhere. They've done it generally speaking. They're
- 18:25Speaker 4: good at scouting, they're good at player development, they're good
- 18:28Speaker 4: at roster building. And you know, I get it. You know,
- 18:31Speaker 4: it's a their payroll is considerably higher than just about
- 18:35Speaker 4: anybody else in the league, and you know, and and
- 18:37Speaker 4: very much higher than the teams that are outside the
- 18:40Speaker 4: top three or four. I say that, and it's it's
- 18:44Speaker 4: hard to be to take shots at what they've built.
- 18:47Speaker 4: And you know, and and the people I think they're smart.
- 18:50Speaker 4: They've done a good job. They take advantage of the
- 18:52Speaker 4: resources they have and the market they work in, and
- 18:55Speaker 4: and and they do what they do. You know, I
- 18:57Speaker 4: say that There's always been teams like that, you know,
- 19:00Speaker 4: in our baseball lives. There's been dominant teams. Sometimes they're
- 19:03Speaker 4: big market teams, sometimes they're they're not, But they don't
- 19:06Speaker 4: always win the World Series. And you know, it's a
- 19:09Speaker 4: it's part of being consistent over time and showing up
- 19:12Speaker 4: and just banging down the door. We feel like we
- 19:15Speaker 4: have the ability with the roster. We have to go
- 19:18Speaker 4: toe to toe with anybody, regardless of the size of
- 19:20Speaker 4: their payroll or how many stars they signed.
- 19:23Speaker 2: What's the what is the benefit? The deferred money part
- 19:26Speaker 2: of it is one thing that I think a lot
- 19:27Speaker 2: of fans and myself, I'll just say, well, makes sense,
- 19:30Speaker 2: you know, when they have to spend two bucks now and.
- 19:32Speaker 4: We don't, you know, lean into deferred payments. I guess
- 19:36Speaker 4: deferred payments are payments. You know at some point you're
- 19:40Speaker 4: gonna have to pay that bill. And you know, the
- 19:42Speaker 4: Dodgers are one of the very few teams in Major
- 19:45Speaker 4: League Baseball who have revenue systems where they can reasonably
- 19:49Speaker 4: look forward ten, twenty or thirty years and and and believe,
- 19:54Speaker 4: all right, we can manage that. You know, if if
- 19:57Speaker 4: these deferred payments come due a certain point, they're all
- 20:01Speaker 4: hitting and you're ten years out and you are the
- 20:04Speaker 4: average major league payroll, you can't manage you know, that
- 20:08Speaker 4: part of it. And when you look at what's happening
- 20:11Speaker 4: with deferred payments around the league, they have you know,
- 20:14Speaker 4: they were trending in the early two thousands. They went
- 20:18Speaker 4: away for a reason because they're very hard to manage.
- 20:20Speaker 4: But you know, there are a number of teams in
- 20:22Speaker 4: the league that I think believe that they can manage
- 20:25Speaker 4: that over the long term. They know their finances better
- 20:27Speaker 4: than I do, so I'm not one to throw stones.
- 20:30Speaker 4: I know that's not something that we feel as realistic
- 20:32Speaker 4: an our market. So we'll just try to sign good
- 20:35Speaker 4: contracts with players we like and do it in a
- 20:38Speaker 4: more traditional way.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Well, I got a million other questions for I'm sure
- 20:41Speaker 1: Bucky does as well, but we do appreciate the time.
- 20:45Speaker 1: We don't have time to get into all of them.
- 20:47Speaker 1: I think I just closed with this, what's your man
- 20:49Speaker 1: bun policy? For Brendan Donovan? Are you saying is are
- 20:53Speaker 1: the Mariners pro man bun anti man bun? What are
- 20:55Speaker 1: we going to do with that air of is?
- 20:58Speaker 4: You know, we got a couple of man buns, and
- 21:00Speaker 4: I'm generally there's I'm open love them all.
- 21:02Speaker 3: You know.
- 21:03Speaker 4: We get Teddy McGraw, who's an in house, former draft
- 21:06Speaker 4: pick of ours, who's in his first major league camp.
- 21:08Speaker 4: You know, if he lets it down, it's a glorious flow,
- 21:11Speaker 4: you know, and we've we've dubbed him breaking ball Jesus.
- 21:14Speaker 4: But you know, when they when they pile the man
- 21:17Speaker 4: ball up, man bun up. I I do think it's
- 21:20Speaker 4: it works for me, okay, because me it gives me
- 21:23Speaker 4: the vibe that we are who we are. And you know,
- 21:26Speaker 4: I think if I had to pin Brendan Donovan, and
- 21:29Speaker 4: I've known him for all of a couple of weeks
- 21:31Speaker 4: in my life, but if I had to thin slice
- 21:34Speaker 4: his first week as a Mariner, it's a it is
- 21:36Speaker 4: a shocking ability just to come in and be yourself.
- 21:39Speaker 4: And and we've always embraced that, We've expressed it in
- 21:42Speaker 4: our culture. And and if that means you're gonna wear
- 21:44Speaker 4: a man bun, fire away.
- 21:45Speaker 1: All right, I got it. I'm glad we cleared that
- 21:48Speaker 1: up today. Thank you very much. We appreciate you. Have
- 21:50Speaker 1: a great year. Mary de Poto, Executive of the Year
- 21:53Speaker 1: in MLB. We'll we'll continue here from spring training.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Next.
- 21:58Speaker 1: That's Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three three KJRFM. Hey,
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- 23:02Speaker 1: former Mariner Bucky Jacobson Chuck Powell with you. We just
- 23:04Speaker 1: chatted with Jerry Depoto. Certainly a lot to react to.
- 23:09Speaker 1: I want to start with the challenge system, though I
- 23:11Speaker 1: can't wait to discuss this topic throughout the course of
- 23:14Speaker 1: the week. That was our first voyage into that topic
- 23:19Speaker 1: so far during our coverage, and I love the Everybody
- 23:23Speaker 1: Can challenge.
- 23:24Speaker 3: But Randy A.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Rosary just hilarious. I mean, I think there is going
- 23:30Speaker 1: to be a strategy. I think there is going to
- 23:32Speaker 1: be all right, We're going to start the season with
- 23:36Speaker 1: anybody can challenge except Randy at any time, and I
- 23:40Speaker 1: think they're going to start the season it sounds like
- 23:42Speaker 1: with only cow can challenge. Why would we go away
- 23:46Speaker 1: from somebody with such a command of the strike zone
- 23:49Speaker 1: if he's grading out at one hundred percent right when
- 23:52Speaker 1: he does practice the challenge system, And so I think
- 23:56Speaker 1: that's the way it's going to be. But I do
- 23:57Speaker 1: believe it's going to be an evolutionary process for all
- 24:01Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams, and I'm not sure they'll have
- 24:04Speaker 1: the same strategy a month into the season as they
- 24:06Speaker 1: do right now at the beginning of spring training. And
- 24:10Speaker 1: before you respond to that, I probably should just explain
- 24:13Speaker 1: they are going to have a ball strike challenging system
- 24:17Speaker 1: this year in Major League Baseball. They have adopted it.
- 24:20Speaker 1: They're not doing the automatic strike zone to replace the
- 24:24Speaker 1: home played umpire, but they are like they've done in
- 24:27Speaker 1: the minor leagues in the past, that you do have
- 24:29Speaker 1: an opportunity as a hitter, a catcher, or a pitcher.
- 24:33Speaker 1: Nobody else can challenge it. Nobody from the bench, no manager,
- 24:36Speaker 1: those are the only three people that can challenge a
- 24:38Speaker 1: ball or strike call just made by the official that
- 24:43Speaker 1: is going to be a part of the twenty twenty
- 24:45Speaker 1: six Major League Baseball season, and it could be wild.
- 24:49Speaker 2: It's going to be crazy, and yet I'm here for it.
- 24:52Speaker 2: I mean, usually a lot of times I don't like
- 24:54Speaker 2: changes to the game that I love. This is one
- 24:56Speaker 2: where there's a bunch of key moments in games where
- 25:01Speaker 2: the difference between a two to one pitch turning your
- 25:03Speaker 2: count to three to one versus two to two bases
- 25:06Speaker 2: loaded bottom of the ninth inning a couple guys on
- 25:09Speaker 2: is crazy, and yet it's understandable. There's humans back there.
- 25:12Speaker 2: We don't go full robot, and so this is this
- 25:15Speaker 2: is kind of a middle ground of saying, Okay, we're
- 25:17Speaker 2: gonna give you. I think it's three strikes, and the
- 25:19Speaker 2: minor leagues I know it was you basically had three
- 25:21Speaker 2: times that you could get it out, you could get
- 25:23Speaker 2: it wrong, and then you're out of challenges as a team,
- 25:25Speaker 2: not you individually, not pert bat, not inning the whole game.
- 25:29Speaker 2: It was three different times that you get it wrong
- 25:31Speaker 2: and then you're out of challenges, is what it was.
- 25:33Speaker 2: In the minor leagues. Now if they have that same
- 25:35Speaker 2: where it's just three. I think it goes into the
- 25:37Speaker 2: season is if you think the umpire screwed you, right
- 25:41Speaker 2: as you're a hitter, you think he screwed you, or
- 25:42Speaker 2: you're a pitcher, or you're the catcher, you can tap
- 25:44Speaker 2: your helmet and then we're going to kind of play
- 25:48Speaker 2: this out as how many times how good you are
- 25:51Speaker 2: at it?
- 25:51Speaker 3: You know he's joking.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto's joking a little bit with Randy rose Reena
- 25:55Speaker 2: because he thinks everything that is called a strike is
- 25:57Speaker 2: a ball and he's not correct. He's not great at it,
- 26:01Speaker 2: and so I think they're still going to to let
- 26:03Speaker 2: Randy rose Renaz start the season with Hey, if you
- 26:06Speaker 2: if you think they got it wrong, then you can
- 26:09Speaker 2: go ahead and challenge it. But you're right a month
- 26:11Speaker 2: end of the season, if you start proving that you're
- 26:13Speaker 2: wasting our challenges, then you're not gonna get to do
- 26:16Speaker 2: it anymore. You're just flat out sorry. You got to
- 26:19Speaker 2: kind of wear it a little bit. When it comes
- 26:20Speaker 2: to the pictures, I think Jerry's right on with that too.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Every picture when a guy frames it and it's pretty
- 26:25Speaker 2: darn close and we're talking a half inch off the plate.
- 26:27Speaker 2: That's of course that's a strike. Cow's just going to
- 26:30Speaker 2: know if it's a strike or not. He's gonna know,
- 26:32Speaker 2: and then he's going to play it the way where Okay,
- 26:35Speaker 2: first inning, nobody on, two outs and you paint one
- 26:39Speaker 2: and I think it's on, but it might be a
- 26:40Speaker 2: half inch off.
- 26:41Speaker 3: I'm not.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I'm not challenging that one. Throw another one, throw another one,
- 26:44Speaker 2: and I don't think guy's gonna hit it now. So
- 26:46Speaker 2: you're not wasting your challenges until you get later on
- 26:48Speaker 2: in the game and there's more meaningful, more impactful times
- 26:51Speaker 2: when you most certainly want to use it.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wonder if we will get to the
- 26:56Speaker 1: point where it will be fine. I mean, I mean
- 26:59Speaker 1: what I'll hires, miss balls and strike calls per game?
- 27:02Speaker 1: I mean a dozen, yeah, you know, a dozen out
- 27:06Speaker 1: of all the calls that they make in the in
- 27:09Speaker 1: the National Football League. You don't have that many calls
- 27:13Speaker 1: that you're going to challenge in the National Football League
- 27:16Speaker 1: per game. And I do wonder if they'll get to
- 27:18Speaker 1: the point where not only do have you forfeited your
- 27:25Speaker 1: right to challenge because we don't trust you know, the
- 27:28Speaker 1: strike zone as well as you think you do. I
- 27:31Speaker 1: wonder if it will get to the point where like, nope,
- 27:33Speaker 1: nobody but Cal or Julio get to challenge because we're
- 27:37Speaker 1: going to save opportunities for them. You know, with runners
- 27:40Speaker 1: in scoring position, you know, if you'll get so, Cal's
- 27:44Speaker 1: the only person that can challenge. No pitchers can challenge.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Uh.
- 27:47Speaker 1: And then offensively through at least through the first three
- 27:50Speaker 1: or four innings. We you know, you better not be
- 27:53Speaker 1: challenging with the bases empty and you're already in the hole.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Oh two, you better not be challenging at that stage.
- 28:01Speaker 1: We need to save those four run scoring opportunities. I
- 28:05Speaker 1: do wonder if it will evolve into that. I don't
- 28:08Speaker 1: know if it will, but I do wonder if it
- 28:10Speaker 1: will evolve it.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Well, there's gonna be a strategy, You're right, I think
- 28:14Speaker 2: initially though, it has to be like you have to
- 28:15Speaker 2: earn you have to basically earn the distrust of your
- 28:19Speaker 2: your team and you not using them wisely. I don't
- 28:22Speaker 2: care if it's oh, I mean a first pitch, the
- 28:25Speaker 2: guy dots it at your knees, but it's an inch
- 28:27Speaker 2: off the plate and the guy calls a strike because
- 28:29Speaker 2: it was framed up. Okay, well that's one oh is
- 28:32Speaker 2: different than O one, And so if you want to
- 28:34Speaker 2: use a challenge, they're fine. I think it actually is two.
- 28:37Speaker 2: I think in the big leagues it's gonna be two
- 28:39Speaker 2: allotted misses, right, So yeah, you you basically have one
- 28:42Speaker 2: screw up before the next screw up been you're out
- 28:44Speaker 2: of challenges. So yeah, they're going to most certainly if
- 28:47Speaker 2: you're if you do it and then you abuse it
- 28:49Speaker 2: and you're wrong, and you all of a sudden you're
- 28:52Speaker 2: selfishly putting your your own at bats or your own
- 28:55Speaker 2: innings pitched out there above what the team is needing,
- 28:59Speaker 2: then yeah, they're gonna ain't it in Hey, Yeah, you know,
- 29:01Speaker 2: if a pitcher just keeps going to his helmet every
- 29:03Speaker 2: single time he thinks it's a strike and it's like
- 29:06Speaker 2: your's hat, and he keeps costing the team those challenges,
- 29:10Speaker 2: then they're gonna be like, you don't do it anymore.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Cow's got you.
- 29:13Speaker 2: That almost seems automatic to me, where they'll just trust
- 29:16Speaker 2: that col will do it when he needs to do it,
- 29:18Speaker 2: and nobody's gonna get mad when he's not one hundred
- 29:20Speaker 2: percent when he gets one wrong, and he has had
- 29:22Speaker 2: twenty right before that. The hitting side of it is
- 29:25Speaker 2: one that is going to be tougher because it's not
- 29:27Speaker 2: as easy to be the umpire well you're actually trying
- 29:29Speaker 2: to hit. And yet as a pitcher, you can execute
- 29:32Speaker 2: your pitch and you're in the middle of finishing that
- 29:35Speaker 2: and the guy that's catching it that has the best view,
- 29:38Speaker 2: even better than the umpire's view.
- 29:40Speaker 3: That guy gets the challenge.
- 29:41Speaker 2: As a hitter, it's different because you got to really
- 29:44Speaker 2: really know the strike zone. So I think some guys
- 29:46Speaker 2: are going to be better at it, and those that
- 29:48Speaker 2: aren't are gonna get their leash tightened up a little
- 29:50Speaker 2: bit when they start screwing him.
- 29:51Speaker 1: As a former player, do you like it? Do you
- 29:53Speaker 1: not like it? Too far? Not far enough?
- 29:55Speaker 2: I like it, and I think it's a perfect bridge
- 29:58Speaker 2: to where they're going to a vent. I think that,
- 30:01Speaker 2: I mean, maybe this will be enough, Maybe this will
- 30:04Speaker 2: be enough when we don't have to go to the
- 30:05Speaker 2: full blown robot strike zone. But I most certainly like it.
- 30:09Speaker 2: There's there's, like I said far too many times, I mean,
- 30:12Speaker 2: it's it's difficult for an umpire to call a game
- 30:14Speaker 2: and be perfect. Very rarely does it happen and understandably.
- 30:17Speaker 2: So the ball is moving and you literally have a
- 30:19Speaker 2: guy sitting right in front of you that's kind of
- 30:21Speaker 2: blocking you a little bit from where it is. They're
- 30:23Speaker 2: all every catch is trying to frame it and make
- 30:25Speaker 2: it look like a strike every single time. It's kind
- 30:27Speaker 2: of one hundred miles an hour. It's not easy to
- 30:29Speaker 2: do that job and be perfect at it. And so
- 30:31Speaker 2: while I want to grant them some grace, I also
- 30:34Speaker 2: don't want them taken and changing my bat in the
- 30:37Speaker 2: most key crucial moment of a game by calling a
- 30:40Speaker 2: ball a strike, and so and vice versa. If I
- 30:42Speaker 2: was a pitcher, I'm on defense and my guy makes
- 30:45Speaker 2: a pitch and it's two to one and you call it.
- 30:48Speaker 3: A ball and that was a strike.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I want I want cal to be able to challenge
- 30:51Speaker 2: that thing and get that count where it's supposed to
- 30:53Speaker 2: be in that situation. So it's I think it's moving
- 30:55Speaker 2: in the direction. Not expecting them to be perfect, But
- 30:58Speaker 2: all right, well, I can challenge you now, and I
- 31:00Speaker 2: can basically I can correct one of your mistakes if needed.
- 31:03Speaker 1: It's Chuck Powell, it's Bucky Jacobson. We are live from
- 31:05Speaker 1: Mariner Spring Training. We're gonna be here all week long.
- 31:08Speaker 1: We've gotten an underway here on this Monday. We've got
- 31:11Speaker 1: so much more from Peoria coming your way, including the
- 31:14Speaker 1: talks of camp, the buzz creators. We're gonna have them
- 31:17Speaker 1: both on at the same time. Coming up at eight
- 31:19Speaker 1: o'clock today, it's Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three
- 31:22Speaker 1: point three kh arfm all right, it is Chuck Powell
- 31:29Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson live from Peoria, Arizona Spring training coverage continues.
- 31:34Speaker 1: So whatever little technical issue we had, we do believe
- 31:37Speaker 1: fingers crossed that we might have solved that sucker. And so, yeah,
- 31:41Speaker 1: we've been on the air with you, but it should
- 31:43Speaker 1: be one hundred percent crystal clear from this point forward.
- 31:45Speaker 1: We shall see. We've got Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan,
- 31:49Speaker 1: the buzz at camp being created by these two prospects,
- 31:52Speaker 1: pitching prospects. They're gonna come your way today at eight
- 31:55Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. And I do believe we're gonna chat
- 31:58Speaker 1: with the Rizzer as well. Rick riz Uh. He's gonna
- 32:01Speaker 1: be a major storyline this baseball season in Seattle, so
- 32:06Speaker 1: I think he's coming on with us in the nine
- 32:07Speaker 1: o'clock hour, and you never know what other surprises that
- 32:10Speaker 1: we're gonna launch at you. We're gonna come at you
- 32:12Speaker 1: like a spider monkey on Mountain Dew.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you never know.
- 32:20Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna happen. But yes, we're settling
- 32:24Speaker 1: in here to our spring training coverage here on a Monday,
- 32:28Speaker 1: very excited about it. And uh, certainly as you walk
- 32:32Speaker 1: around the grounds, uh you you see the different players
- 32:36Speaker 1: and who took it seriously this offseason. We really are
- 32:40Speaker 1: because we haven't really discussed this aspect of it yet
- 32:43Speaker 1: on our show this morning. The body changes and I
- 32:46Speaker 1: know people always look forward to this part. We got
- 32:49Speaker 1: to be their eyes and ears out here, and you know,
- 32:54Speaker 1: we are kind of long past the day where guys
- 32:56Speaker 1: come in looking worse. I asked Pete Woodwork off the air, like,
- 33:01Speaker 1: who do you think has changed the body the most
- 33:04Speaker 1: in the off season? Did the most? And he goes,
- 33:06Speaker 1: they all do.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Now.
- 33:07Speaker 1: They all add muscle, like every off season, they do
- 33:10Speaker 1: something different to get stronger and you know, or maybe
- 33:13Speaker 1: correct something. So it's not really an issue like it
- 33:16Speaker 1: used to be when guys used to you know, smack
- 33:19Speaker 1: a smoke a pack of Marlborough's a day and work
- 33:22Speaker 1: at the factory in the off season, and they had
- 33:24Speaker 1: to come in here and get in shape. You never
- 33:25Speaker 1: know what kind of body you're gonna get back in
- 33:27Speaker 1: the day. But with these guys, I mean, they're all
- 33:31Speaker 1: pretty fit. But I have noticed a couple that have
- 33:33Speaker 1: changed certainly.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Yeah, they definitely put the work in. I mean, you're right,
- 33:38Speaker 2: we're long ways past. I mean, we just have more information.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Even back from when I played. I mean when I
- 33:44Speaker 2: met my wife, I was talking to her about how
- 33:47Speaker 2: we worked out right, and she was a you know,
- 33:50Speaker 2: Olympic caliber thrower at University of Wyoming. When she's talking about, so,
- 33:55Speaker 2: you guys, you lift heavy, right, everyone's on you max
- 33:58Speaker 2: kind of stress your body. My Nope, nope. They told us,
- 34:01Speaker 2: don't ever lift heavy. Don't want to get bulky. It's
- 34:03Speaker 2: a it's a marathon, not a sprint. So you don't
- 34:06Speaker 2: do you don't lift like that. You lift for endurance.
- 34:08Speaker 2: And she's like, well that doesn't make you sense, like
- 34:10Speaker 2: you're just you're just not getting stronger. And I'm like,
- 34:12Speaker 2: these are like billion dollar organizations, Okay, I think they
- 34:15Speaker 2: know what they're doing with their athletes. It's like, but
- 34:17Speaker 2: they don't, and so we know I argued with her.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Now I have just admitted you were right, because now
- 34:23Speaker 2: they do that.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Now they show them the hamster wheels she made, the
- 34:27Speaker 1: tread hamster treadmill. I can't believe they don't have one,
- 34:30Speaker 1: like three of them because people will stand in line.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Yeah, get blocked down. Yeah, it would get way too packed.
- 34:36Speaker 2: You got to make more than one of those, Kate.
- 34:38Speaker 2: But I think the the idea of how much science
- 34:42Speaker 2: goes into your body and then now all the supplements
- 34:45Speaker 2: and the things that you can take to kind of
- 34:47Speaker 2: improve your health and and improve your overall performance. But
- 34:50Speaker 2: it's legal, it's under the you know, it's it's under
- 34:53Speaker 2: the line of things that are available and allowable. I
- 34:58Speaker 2: think that, yeah, everybody pretty much takes it in to consideration. Alley,
- 35:01Speaker 2: this is my this is the vehicle that's gonna make
- 35:04Speaker 2: me millions of dollars. I'm gonna go ahead and make
- 35:06Speaker 2: sure that I have this thing running on super fuel.
- 35:08Speaker 2: And I think that everybody comes in in shape compared
- 35:11Speaker 2: to back in the day. Back in the day, like
- 35:14Speaker 2: you said, a lot of people worked at a factory
- 35:15Speaker 2: in yeah season, even my day that wasn't the case,
- 35:18Speaker 2: but you still you didn't necessarily know as much. There
- 35:21Speaker 2: wasn't as much information out there, and some of the
- 35:23Speaker 2: information wasn't even correct. And so nowadays, I think I
- 35:25Speaker 2: got the right information for the most part, and they're
- 35:27Speaker 2: coming in ready to rock and roll.
- 35:29Speaker 1: I think the person that kind of stood out with
- 35:31Speaker 1: me the most in terms of change from last year
- 35:34Speaker 1: Bryce Miller. I mean, as soon as he walked up
- 35:36Speaker 1: to us yesterday, I'm like, you've put on some muscle.
- 35:39Speaker 1: He goes, yes, I have.
- 35:41Speaker 3: A little bit, I really.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Have, you know, you know, usually Clint Eastwood, we never
- 35:47Speaker 1: worried about Clint Eastwood's pecks. You know, he was just
- 35:50Speaker 1: such a cool, smooth mother blanker, you know what I mean.
- 35:54Speaker 1: And that's Bryce Miller. That's my nickname for Bryce Miller,
- 35:57Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood. But he decided it looked like Clint Eastood
- 36:00Speaker 1: got him a bowflex this offseason. It was noticeable to me.
- 36:05Speaker 1: I mean, not like he wasn't bulky. I don't think
- 36:08Speaker 1: Bryce could get bulky, but you could tell that they're
- 36:11Speaker 1: a little vantage going down the arms, and he just
- 36:15Speaker 1: kind of filled out his shirt a little bit more so.
- 36:17Speaker 1: I think strength was a priority for him, and to me,
- 36:20Speaker 1: of the guys I've seen thus far, he might be
- 36:22Speaker 1: the one that popped to me yesterday.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely there was a part of it that
- 36:28Speaker 2: stood out for sure. I mean, I think that typically
- 36:31Speaker 2: if you see somebody coming off a year that one
- 36:34Speaker 2: you went through injury or you just have a down year, right,
- 36:37Speaker 2: and he was. He had an injury and it kind
- 36:39Speaker 2: of played He pitched through it a little bit, I
- 36:41Speaker 2: think when there were other guys heard at the beginning
- 36:43Speaker 2: of the season and and it affected his performance, his outcome.
- 36:46Speaker 2: I don't think that he was one hundred percent, and
- 36:48Speaker 2: yet I think he was. He was closer to being
- 36:51Speaker 2: capable to take the ball than a lot of other
- 36:54Speaker 2: guys were, and so he kind of wore it for
- 36:55Speaker 2: the team a little bit. But you have an off
- 36:58Speaker 2: season with that lingering it, it most certainly fuels you
- 37:01Speaker 2: going into the offseason. You most certainly are like, I'm
- 37:03Speaker 2: not going through that again, and so I'm gonna get
- 37:05Speaker 2: my body one hundred percent ready and make sure that
- 37:09Speaker 2: it's going to hold up. And then you also gain
- 37:11Speaker 2: the confidence of when you're standing on the bumper or
- 37:13Speaker 2: digging in the box where you know, you did the
- 37:15Speaker 2: work you needed to do to get yourself ready to
- 37:17Speaker 2: go out there and compete at the highest level.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I thought Andre's munnos looked a little
- 37:23Speaker 1: more fit. I asked him, like, day, did you put it?
- 37:24Speaker 1: And He's like, no, not really so, but I don't know.
- 37:28Speaker 1: We shall see with him going forward. Didn't get too
- 37:32Speaker 1: much exposure to Andre's say, yesterday, but we'll certainly try
- 37:36Speaker 1: to get him on the radio program here before the
- 37:39Speaker 1: end of the week. But yes, all of those sorts
- 37:42Speaker 1: of things that go into the first couple of days
- 37:44Speaker 1: at spring training, We're going to be your eyes and
- 37:46Speaker 1: ears out here for all of this. Mainly, the main
- 37:50Speaker 1: story with the pictures is like every single one of
- 37:53Speaker 1: them either proposed or had a baby this offseason, Like
- 37:57Speaker 1: what on earth? So I think before, especially on pictures day,
- 38:00Speaker 1: gonna you know what, We're gonna get to the bottom
- 38:01Speaker 1: of who's the most romantic picture? And the Mariners starting rotation. Yeah,
- 38:06Speaker 1: I'm gonna grade their proposals. Oh yeah, yeah for them
- 38:10Speaker 1: right in front of their faces.
- 38:11Speaker 2: That's how Bryce's was in like a canyon, yeah, like
- 38:14Speaker 2: with a river flowing uh huh.
- 38:16Speaker 1: That's what would take his woman right there, just ride
- 38:20Speaker 1: his horse out into the canyon.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bet Woo's was Did we get engaged?
- 38:25Speaker 1: No, I think Woo's just having way too much fun
- 38:27Speaker 1: being Woo being Woo Woo Woo. Gilbert had a baby,
- 38:32Speaker 1: Logan had a baby.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Just Emerson Hancock had a baby too, busting with pride in.
- 38:37Speaker 3: Niles named him Miles whatever that's after master Bony.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Uh oh, I don't know, maybe yeah, but uh really
- 38:45Speaker 1: disappointed going on around here? Oh disappointed? I mean I
- 38:48Speaker 1: thought we were close with Emerson. I think that uh
- 38:51Speaker 1: Bucky Bucky Charles Hancock's got a nice ring to it,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and I think he let us down.
- 38:56Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't.
- 38:57Speaker 2: I didn't bring that up, but the next time I
- 38:59Speaker 2: see him, I didn't think about that.
- 39:01Speaker 3: How we got screwed in the.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Deal, just when I thought I knew Emerson.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you name him after Miles Master Bony. You
- 39:06Speaker 2: played with that guy for like one season. We've interviewed
- 39:09Speaker 2: you six times. Yeah, yeah, all right.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Coming up next, they are the buzz. We are going
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