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Taken Onboard a UFO: Five True Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Tennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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Speaker 1: this episode Taken on Board a UFO five True Cases.
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Speaker 1: Sightings are interesting, no doubt about that, as our landings
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Speaker 1: and face to face encounters with humanoids. But when a
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Speaker 1: person is taken on board a craft and meets ets
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Speaker 1: face to face, this is undeniable. These are the most
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Speaker 1: extensive of all UFO cases. These are the cases with
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Speaker 1: the most information that really let us know who ets are,
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Speaker 1: where they come from, why they're here, what their agenda
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Speaker 1: is on our planet, and what it's like to have
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Speaker 1: direct contact with them, not to mention providing an enormous
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Speaker 1: amount of evidence of all kinds. And I have chosen
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Speaker 1: five cases from all over the world, stretching back from
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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties up to the nineteen eighties that I
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Speaker 1: think really illustrate the onboard UFO experience. So I've got
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Speaker 1: two cases from the United States, two cases from South America,
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Speaker 1: one in Brazil, one in Argentina, and one case from Australia.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, these are super interesting as well, and I
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Speaker 1: think really important that people understand that this is in
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Speaker 1: fact happening, and that's really why I wanted to do
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Speaker 1: this video, because these are normally the most important of
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Speaker 1: all UFO cases, but they're the most interesting as well.
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Speaker 1: So let's just get started, and the first case I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about I call the onboard experience of
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Speaker 1: Joyce Updike. This one took place in Platte, Nebraska, beginning
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Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, and actually another experience in the
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, which isn't unusual for a person to have
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Speaker 1: multiple encounters, but this case is really interesting because I
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Speaker 1: think it typifies a lot of the things we see
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Speaker 1: when people have an onboard experience, particularly on how profoundly
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Speaker 1: it affects a person. The main witness in this case
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Speaker 1: is Joyce Updyke. She's not the only witness, though. Joyce
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Speaker 1: grew up in North Platte, Nebraska and had no idea
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Speaker 1: that in nineteen fifty nine she had been taken on
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Speaker 1: board a UFO. Was actually an experience in August of
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven that woke her up to the fact
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Speaker 1: that she was a UFO contact EEE one evening, around
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Speaker 1: two to a m a UFO landed right next to
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Speaker 1: her house in her farmyard. She was actually washing the
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Speaker 1: house at the time when suddenly the room filled with
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Speaker 1: a very bright light. Now, just quote Joyce directly as
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Speaker 1: she says, I looked out the window to see where
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Speaker 1: so much light was coming from. The entire yard was
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Speaker 1: filled with light resembling that of welding torches, was too
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Speaker 1: right to look at. I became very frightened. I am
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Speaker 1: an extremely protective mother, but I didn't even check on
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Speaker 1: my seven children to make sure that they were safe.
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Speaker 1: I simply put out the lights, locked the door, and
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Speaker 1: went to bed. Frankly, I never did believe that I
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Speaker 1: could behave that way. It didn't seem right that I
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Speaker 1: could have gone to bed, but I did. I woke
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Speaker 1: up during the night with all my clothes on and
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Speaker 1: on top of the bed covers in the heat of August.
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Speaker 1: Nothing quite made sense. So she didn't know what to
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Speaker 1: think of this experience. Now. Joyce was later interviewed by
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Speaker 1: author researcher Ruth Montgomery. She wrote the book Aliens among Us,
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Speaker 1: and much of Joyce's story is presented in that book. So,
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Speaker 1: following this nineteen sixty seven incident, Joyce's husband didn't say
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Speaker 1: anything at first, but he later admitted that he had
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Speaker 1: in fact found a large burned circle in the grass
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Speaker 1: next to their barn, so this was evidence that something
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Speaker 1: had landed next to the house. So again, Joyce didn't
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Speaker 1: know what to make of that incident, but it changed
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Speaker 1: everything for her. At that time, she really loved reading
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Speaker 1: historical novels, but she stopped reading them and became obsessed
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Speaker 1: with reading about UFOs esp. Psychic development, reincarnation, ancient mysteries, religion, atlantis,
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Speaker 1: and these kind of topics. She also noticed some other
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Speaker 1: interesting after effects. She noticed that her hair started to
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Speaker 1: become quite thin, Her eyes and also the eyes of
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Speaker 1: her two year old daughter would become very red and inflamed.
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Speaker 1: All kinds of psychic events began to occur. She had
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Speaker 1: poltergeist like activity plaguing household. She also began experiencing telepathy,
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Speaker 1: and her children too. Her children began experiencing precognition, out
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Speaker 1: of body experiences, past life recall, and more. She couldn't
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Speaker 1: wear watches as they would always break. She also began
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Speaker 1: having experiencing also began having episodes of missing time. She
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Speaker 1: worked at that time as a bookkeeper, and at her job,
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Speaker 1: fellow employees noticed that she was a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: She was always electrically charged, so that experience had a
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Speaker 1: profound effect on her, not only physically but psychically. And
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Speaker 1: then in nineteen eighty, after watching a TV show about
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Speaker 1: unexplained phenomenon, she heard about doctor Leo Sprinkle. He's a
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Speaker 1: well known UFO researcher who also was at that time
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Speaker 1: hypnotically regressing people to recover missing time. In fact, he
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Speaker 1: was one of the first to ever do it. So
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Speaker 1: she contacted him and made an appointment to be hypnotized,
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Speaker 1: and while under trance, she did recall having a benevolent
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Speaker 1: onboard encounter which she wasn't even aware of, which took
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Speaker 1: place in nineteen fifty nine, and as Joy says, I
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Speaker 1: had no conscious memory of it, but it seems that
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Speaker 1: it was all pre arranged. It took place in North Platte,
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Speaker 1: Nebraska in October. I drove my little red Rambler station
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Speaker 1: wagon out to the pasture to meet two space people.
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Speaker 1: I was barefoot and wearing a house dress and apron.
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Speaker 1: So she got out of her car and there were
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Speaker 1: these two human looking men wearing spacesuits and helmets. There
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Speaker 1: was a craft landed a short distance away, and these
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Speaker 1: two men led her on board this craft, and, as
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Speaker 1: joy says in her own ways, I found myself inside
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Speaker 1: it on an examining table. Two men were standing at
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Speaker 1: one side of the room. They appeared to have removed
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Speaker 1: their bubble helmets and simply wore winged type skull caps.
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Speaker 1: Their bodies appeared well formed, neither excessively short nor tall.
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Speaker 1: Now she couldn't see their faces clearly, but she did
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Speaker 1: see another man dressed in what looked like a doctor's outfit,
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Speaker 1: who began to examine her with strange instruments. She also
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Speaker 1: has some memories of seeing what looked like strange sort
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Speaker 1: of star maps. But the ets did tell her that
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Speaker 1: at some point there will be major Earth changes and
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Speaker 1: that people across the planet will be rescued. This is
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Speaker 1: a message a lot of contactees get. So at this point,
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Speaker 1: Leo Sprinkle Hypnotizer to the nineteen sixty seven incident, and
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Speaker 1: she again recalled being taken from her home and on
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Speaker 1: board a craft where she was physically examined by human
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Speaker 1: looking ets. Joyce has spoken a few times about her encounters,
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Speaker 1: but has remained largely out of the UFO scene, and
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Speaker 1: later she did actually remarry a gentleman who also turned
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Speaker 1: out to be a UFO contactee. This is another thing
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Speaker 1: we see quite often, so Joyce's case does illustrate a
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Speaker 1: lot of the many after effects contactees experience. So that
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Speaker 1: is the on board experience of Joyce Updike and Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a very compelling case with landing traces, some really dramatic
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Speaker 1: physiological effects. To me, the most amazing are the psychic
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Speaker 1: effects which effected not only Joyce but her entire family.
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Speaker 1: Really interesting. Also that she was given warnings and messages
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Speaker 1: that there will be a mass evacuation or rescue. That's
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Speaker 1: certainly something a lot of contactees talk about. So a
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Speaker 1: pretty compelling case all around. And here's another one that
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Speaker 1: is equally compelling. I call this one the onboard experience
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Speaker 1: of Alejandra Martinez de Pescucci. Of all the cases I'm
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Speaker 1: presenting today, this is probably the briefest, but it's still
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Speaker 1: a really interesting case. And this one occurred in Quilm's Argentina,
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Speaker 1: and Yeah has some interesting things to say about what
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Speaker 1: it's like to have UFL contact. This next case is
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Speaker 1: probably the shortest of the ones in this presentation, but
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Speaker 1: it's still a very interesting encounter. It occurred on July second,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, again in Quilm's Argentina, and the main
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Speaker 1: witness in this case is Alejandra Martinez de Pascucci, and
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Speaker 1: I'll just quote Alejandra directly as to what happened. He says,
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Speaker 1: as always, I was walking. When I reached the corner
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Speaker 1: of Alvir and Savadra, I was out of my mind,
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Speaker 1: as if attracted by a magnetic force. I couldn't resist anything.
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Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't me and that something was happening
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Speaker 1: to me, as if I was being influenced. I couldn't
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Speaker 1: scream or speak. I was hard immobilized, but I didn't
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Speaker 1: lose consciousness. Suddenly I saw a light that blinded me,
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Speaker 1: and then I cannot explain how I found myself on
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Speaker 1: board an apparatus, which was undoubtedly a flying saucer, through
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Speaker 1: the windows. Inside everything was white, totally clean, and with
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Speaker 1: windows which gave off all kinds of colors. There was
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Speaker 1: total silence. What I did feel was when we began
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Speaker 1: to rise from the ground, I was like outside of me.
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Speaker 1: I didn't respond. I just remember thinking about my children
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Speaker 1: and saying, what about my children. I can't say if
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Speaker 1: I thought or said anything inside this object, there was
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Speaker 1: tremendous heat. I think if I continued there, I would
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Speaker 1: roast this gold bracelet. I have burned me. It had
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Speaker 1: gotten weird, I would say burning. So yeah, she was
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Speaker 1: walking outside of her home when suddenly she found herself
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Speaker 1: on board this craft. Was quite warm inside, heated up
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Speaker 1: her bracelet to the point where she could feel it.
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Speaker 1: And regarding the size of this room, she says, and
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Speaker 1: I quote, it should be about three and a half meters,
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Speaker 1: although I cannot specify anything exactly. Imagine my state, my despair,
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Speaker 1: because I don't know what could have happened to me
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Speaker 1: when I tried to get calm and serene, because already
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Speaker 1: I was lost, I had no choice. So she's quite
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Speaker 1: disoriented and trying to figure out what's happening, really frightened,
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Speaker 1: and trying to figure out where she is. And this
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Speaker 1: is when she noticed that there were people inside. As
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Speaker 1: she says, I saw two people who were undoubtedly not
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Speaker 1: from our earth. They had a luminous appearance. I can't
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Speaker 1: describe it perfectly because the whole atmosphere inside the ship
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Speaker 1: was flashing, almost blinding. One of the strangers was more
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Speaker 1: than two meters tall. Much taller, and the other was
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Speaker 1: also tall, but not as tall as the first. By
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Speaker 1: the way of behaving, the superiority of the elder over
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Speaker 1: the other was noticed. I even had the feeling that
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Speaker 1: one could be male and the other female. Only woman
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Speaker 1: like me into it that the crew emitted from their
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Speaker 1: hands and feet lights as if they had spotlights. They
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Speaker 1: would talk or something, They would beckon, they would shake
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Speaker 1: their heads, but I couldn't notice their faces. I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if they were blonde or brunette, but
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Speaker 1: they seemed to me that they were not from here.
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Speaker 1: The only movement they made was to step on a
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Speaker 1: kind of button that was in the middle of the
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Speaker 1: plate on the floor. With that, they moved the device.
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Speaker 1: They didn't tell me anything or see anything else. With
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Speaker 1: the fear I had, I tried not to lose control
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Speaker 1: over myself as I had been absorbed by the apparatus.
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Speaker 1: I was thrown away. I mean, this is not explained
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Speaker 1: very well, but what I do remember is that they
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Speaker 1: threw me on the ground. I fell in the cemetery
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Speaker 1: of Espalida, and there too, I suffered a terrible fear.
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Speaker 1: Looking at so many crosses. Now I want to tell
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Speaker 1: you how bad people are when one needs help. I
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Speaker 1: went to the neighbors of the cemetery saying that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to return to the house, but no one took
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Speaker 1: note of me. They treated me like I was crazy.
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Speaker 1: Then I got a taxi that brought me home, but
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Speaker 1: it didn't charge me. So yeah, she was put back
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Speaker 1: in a different location from where she was taken, and
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Speaker 1: at first she thought it might have been another planet.
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Speaker 1: She's like, wondering if this is Mars. But looking around her,
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Speaker 1: she saw that she was in a location not far
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Speaker 1: from her home, a nearby cemetery, and she asked for
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Speaker 1: help and did not receive it. Now, what's really interesting
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Speaker 1: is her son absolutely supports her story, and he's got
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Speaker 1: good reason to. I just like to quote her son directly.
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Speaker 1: His name is Carlos Attelio Pascucci, and as he says,
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Speaker 1: when my mom arrived, something very strange happened. I was
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Speaker 1: with some friends in the house and we all heard
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Speaker 1: the sound of a buzzing sound, but not a taxi.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, and I didn't come out,
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Speaker 1: but it was something very strange. I believe that the
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Speaker 1: taxi driver was not such how can you not want
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Speaker 1: to charge a trip from Espalda to here. Also, as
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Speaker 1: soon as my mom got out of the car, the
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Speaker 1: street light burned out, and before two more on the
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Speaker 1: corner where she says the UFO abducted her. Also in
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Speaker 1: the corner was a hole about twenty centimeters in diameter
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Speaker 1: and about thirty centimeters deep. The grass was also scorched.
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Speaker 1: This didn't happen before, so it could be that this
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Speaker 1: taxi driver was not a taxi at all, but was
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Speaker 1: taking her home and it was a craft. Certainly this
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Speaker 1: is what Carlos her son thinks might have happened, and
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Speaker 1: they not only heard it, but they found landing traces.
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty interesting case. My heart really goes out
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Speaker 1: to Alejandra for all the ridicule and disbelief she suffered
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Speaker 1: following her encounter. I don't think that's really fair because
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Speaker 1: the people who are claiming that this didn't happen, they
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Speaker 1: weren't there, They don't know, and it's really difficult for
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Speaker 1: a person to go through the ordeal of having such
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Speaker 1: a major encounter and then to go through the aftermath
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Speaker 1: of being ridiculed and disbelieved. So thankfully she did have
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Speaker 1: the support of her family, who experienced at least part
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Speaker 1: of this encounter. And while this case wasn't super well investigated,
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Speaker 1: it was recalled consciously, which that alone makes it important.
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Speaker 1: And here is another case, which I call the onboard
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Speaker 1: experience of Judy Kendall, and this case is profoundly important.
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Speaker 1: This is a very early case which predated Bud Hopkins's
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Speaker 1: book Missing Time, which sort of cemented the idea of
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Speaker 1: onboard experiences into American culture and really all over the world.
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Speaker 1: This case helped verify the Missing Time does happen in
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Speaker 1: association with the UFO encounter, and Judy Kendall, the main witness,
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Speaker 1: wasn't alone in her encounter, but she did go under
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Speaker 1: hypnosis and recalled quite an extensive interaction with various types
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Speaker 1: of ets, much of what the type we would call
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Speaker 1: the grays mostly but yeah provided some details that really
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Speaker 1: helped corroborate other cases and helped move this subject forward
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Speaker 1: in a big way. That alone makes this case super important.
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Speaker 1: It was around six pm on November twenty sixth, nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy two, when Judy Kendall, who was a twenty eight
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Speaker 1: year old legal secretary, and her two younger sisters, Dannon
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Speaker 1: and Becky, had left their grandmother's home in Zamora, California,
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Speaker 1: and headed back to their mom's house in Bodega Bay.
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Speaker 1: This was a trip they had taken before and usually
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Speaker 1: took about two two and a half hours, certainly no
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Speaker 1: more than three. But as they drove along, they were
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Speaker 1: crossing a certain point in their trip it's called the
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Speaker 1: Cash Creek Bridge. This is outside of Zamora, and they
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Speaker 1: were about to take a turnoff, but the turnoff never came,
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Speaker 1: and at this point all of them began to feel
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Speaker 1: an unnatural tiredness sweep over them. In fact, both Judy
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Speaker 1: and one of her sisters said at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I wonder why we're not getting off the turnoff, And
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Speaker 1: it was at that moment that they realized that they
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Speaker 1: were crossing the Cash Creek Bridge again the second time,
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Speaker 1: which is impossible. So they all felt really tired at
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Speaker 1: this point, but somehow made it home, only to discover
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Speaker 1: that it was now midnight. This trip had taken twice
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Speaker 1: as long as it should have, and their concerned parents
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Speaker 1: actually had already called the police. Now unable to explain
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Speaker 1: the lost time, they didn't know what to do about it.
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Speaker 1: And just kind of shelved the incident, didn't talk about it. However,
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Speaker 1: it was three years later, in nineteen seventy five, when
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Speaker 1: Judy was watching the movie Escape to Which Mountain, And
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Speaker 1: there's a scene in this movie where the RV of
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Speaker 1: the main characters is lifted up into the air levitated,
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Speaker 1: And as soon as Judy saw this, her mind flashed
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Speaker 1: back to the nineteen seventy two incident and she recalled
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Speaker 1: being in her car with her sisters when the car
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Speaker 1: was lifted up into the air. So this is fully
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Speaker 1: conscious recall of being lifted up into the air inside
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Speaker 1: her vehicle. And she was really shaken by this memory,
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Speaker 1: and she wondered what had happened during this missing time.
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Speaker 1: And in nineteen seventy seven, she saw a UFO and
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Speaker 1: she decided that she was going to report it what
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Speaker 1: she did to the center of UFO Studies. This was
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Speaker 1: an organization called q FOS headed by j. Allen Heinek,
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Speaker 1: and he was quite intrigued by her report and he
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Speaker 1: encouraged her to try hypnosis. So that year Judy was
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Speaker 1: in fact hypnotized by doctor W. C. McCall, and she
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Speaker 1: recovered her memory of the missing hours under hypnosis, she
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Speaker 1: recalled that they were crossing the Cache Creek Bridge when
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Speaker 1: a strange coldness enveloped the car, and at that point,
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Speaker 1: the car suddenly rose up into the air and was
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Speaker 1: deposited inside a UFO. As soon as they found themselves
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Speaker 1: inside this craft, still in the car, she and her
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Speaker 1: sisters passed out this point. Judy does have some memory
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Speaker 1: of being floated out of the car and taken to
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Speaker 1: another room. And I'll just quote Judy directly, and she says,
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Speaker 1: I was in a room by myself. It was large
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Speaker 1: and hexagon shaped. When they put me on the table,
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Speaker 1: I was restrained so that my head was held tight
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Speaker 1: by something that I couldn't move, and it was so
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Speaker 1: painful that when I was under hypnosis, I kept complaining
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Speaker 1: about how bad my head hurt. There was a very pretty,
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Speaker 1: black haired woman who looked very human. I felt like
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Speaker 1: she was there to reassure me. She was compassionate and said,
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Speaker 1: don't worry Judy. I wondered how in the world she
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Speaker 1: knew my name was, like they had been watching me.
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Speaker 1: There was another group of aliens who wore skin tight
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Speaker 1: gray suits, had very pale white skin, and wore oxygen
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Speaker 1: like masks covering most of their faces. So Judy described
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Speaker 1: these very much much as being like the typical gray,
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Speaker 1: which is important because at that point there weren't a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of descriptions of this. This was not something
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Speaker 1: being discussed in the media really at all. Now. Even
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Speaker 1: though Judy did say she had a sheet felt draped
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Speaker 1: over her body, she felt intense cold. She was unable
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Speaker 1: to move. She was very concerned about her sisters because
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Speaker 1: she didn't know where they were. However, looking around, she
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Speaker 1: did see two small bucket seats facing what looked like
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Speaker 1: a console along one wall that had little knobs on it.
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Speaker 1: The short beings stood around the table that she was
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Speaker 1: lying on, and she said they had large, kind of
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Speaker 1: roundish yellow eyes. The human looking woman was quite short,
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Speaker 1: about five five and a half feet and stood to
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Speaker 1: her left. To her right, she saw a long hallway,
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Speaker 1: and looking down this hallway walking towards her, she saw very,
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Speaker 1: as she says, hideous looking six to seven foot tall
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Speaker 1: being with a very large bulbous head and sort of
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Speaker 1: insectoid eyes, long holes for nostrils. He had no hair,
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Speaker 1: pale white skin almost to the point of being translucent.
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Speaker 1: In fact, she said she could see what looked like
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Speaker 1: veins and arteries, and up to this point she was
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Speaker 1: not experiencing any fear, but seeing this strange being approach
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Speaker 1: her made her hysterical with fear. At that point, the
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Speaker 1: human looking woman began to reassure her, saying over and
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Speaker 1: over again, it's okay, it's okay, and the insectoid being
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Speaker 1: began to speak to her telepathically, saying no harm will
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Speaker 1: come to you. She said it was very strange because
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Speaker 1: the voice was loud like coming out of a megaphone
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Speaker 1: in her head and was almost machine like. So this
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Speaker 1: insectoid being put his hand on her head and echoed
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Speaker 1: the woman saying it's okay. And the woman again was
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Speaker 1: talking to Judy saying it's okay, Judy, it's okay, and
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Speaker 1: again Judy was really surprised to hear that they knew
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Speaker 1: her name. At this point, this insectoid like being began
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Speaker 1: to examine Judy's ears, studied her feet, use what she
24:22
Speaker 1: believes was a catheter to remove urine. She felt a
24:26
Speaker 1: heavy metal machine which made a loud buzzing noise being
24:30
Speaker 1: placed over her eyes, and she wondered if this was
24:34
Speaker 1: to scan her brain somehow She did feel some pain
24:38
Speaker 1: as she was sort of poked and prodded, and she
24:40
Speaker 1: did complain about her head hurting, and she says she
24:44
Speaker 1: also noticed that at various points during this experience, the
24:48
Speaker 1: beings would look up at each other occasionally as if
24:52
Speaker 1: silently communicating or telepathically communicating. So Judy was felt somewhat
24:59
Speaker 1: out of control at this point, and she didn't find
25:03
Speaker 1: it a particularly pleasant examination. As she says in her
25:06
Speaker 1: own words, it was like I was a guinea pig.
25:10
Speaker 1: They just wanted to see what was going on with
25:12
Speaker 1: our bodies or something. I thought that it was maybe
25:15
Speaker 1: a scientific physical examination type of thing they treated me like.
25:20
Speaker 1: I was like we have the apes, we have mice
25:23
Speaker 1: and rats and such that we use for experiments. I
25:27
Speaker 1: felt like I was being treated as a lower level
25:29
Speaker 1: or lower class form of life than they were. It
25:33
Speaker 1: was like I was the dog and they were the
25:35
Speaker 1: master type of thing. So at one point Judy did
25:41
Speaker 1: think she heard one of her younger sisters cry out.
25:46
Speaker 1: Next thing she knows, the shorter beings are lifting her up,
25:50
Speaker 1: each grabbing an arm or leg, and they carried her
25:53
Speaker 1: out of the room and back to the car. She
25:56
Speaker 1: said it was really interesting because as they reached the car,
26:00
Speaker 1: that kind of threw her up into the air, and
26:02
Speaker 1: she floated directly into the driver's seat, landing neatly behind
26:06
Speaker 1: the wheel, and looking around, she saw that she was
26:10
Speaker 1: alone in the car, and she stayed that way for
26:13
Speaker 1: a short time when suddenly her sisters appeared, almost as
26:17
Speaker 1: though they materialized there, so she didn't really see how
26:20
Speaker 1: they got in there, but the next thing she knew,
26:24
Speaker 1: they were back on the road, passing over the Cash
26:27
Speaker 1: Creek bridge for the second time. So there were some
26:32
Speaker 1: after effects following this encounter. Judy, like many contactees, reported
26:38
Speaker 1: a sense of being watched, and she had some ambivalent
26:41
Speaker 1: feelings about the encounter. While she felt that it was scary,
26:46
Speaker 1: she does not feel like the ets were evil or
26:48
Speaker 1: trying to hurt her, and sometimes she actually felt glad
26:51
Speaker 1: that she had this encounter, though sometimes she would become frightened.
26:55
Speaker 1: Her sisters were frightened. They refused to talk about it. Judy, however,
27:00
Speaker 1: I did speak at a nineteen seventy nine conference, and
27:04
Speaker 1: her account has become well known was written about in
27:08
Speaker 1: a few articles. One's called Against Her Will, Another on
27:12
Speaker 1: was where did the Road Go? Most significantly. Her case
27:16
Speaker 1: was reported in the book The Road to Strange, UFOs,
27:21
Speaker 1: Aliens and High Strangeness, but her case was one of
27:25
Speaker 1: only a handful which became known prior to Bud Hopkins'
27:29
Speaker 1: book Missing Time, which popularized the subject and opened the
27:33
Speaker 1: door for thousands of people to start talking about their
27:36
Speaker 1: own encounters. That alone makes her case very important. There's
27:41
Speaker 1: some really interesting aspects to this case. I think one
27:45
Speaker 1: that really intrigues me is the fact that while she
27:48
Speaker 1: was watching the main witness, Judy, while she was watching
27:52
Speaker 1: the movie Escape to Which Mountain and watching this car
27:55
Speaker 1: fly up into the air, that was a cue for
27:58
Speaker 1: her to really recall herself and her car being lifted
28:02
Speaker 1: up into this craft. This is something we see quite
28:05
Speaker 1: often when people have missing time. And while she did
28:10
Speaker 1: recall this under hypnosis, the details she recalled are very
28:14
Speaker 1: much corroborated by other cases, including the examination that she
28:20
Speaker 1: went through, the types of ets she saw, and so forth.
28:25
Speaker 1: So yeah, an important case on several levels. And there's
28:30
Speaker 1: always another case. Here is another case, which I call
28:34
Speaker 1: the onboard experience of Karen Lister. I think this case
28:39
Speaker 1: is super interesting for a couple of reasons. One is
28:43
Speaker 1: that this was recalled consciously without the aid of hypnosis,
28:47
Speaker 1: again with a kind of Q and it provides some
28:51
Speaker 1: really interesting similarities to perhaps the Travis Walton case. This
28:57
Speaker 1: case occurred in Sydney and has some really unusual elements
29:03
Speaker 1: to it, and it also shows that this is the
29:07
Speaker 1: UFO experience is rarely a one off, and that's certainly
29:11
Speaker 1: true in Karen's case, with encounters stretching to early childhood
29:15
Speaker 1: and onward. The main witness in this case is Karen Lister,
29:20
Speaker 1: and she was only eighteen years old in January of
29:23
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. At that time she was employed by
29:26
Speaker 1: an affiliate of RCA Records, and she had a very
29:30
Speaker 1: unusual experience which began with a strange compulsion to take
29:34
Speaker 1: a vacation from her accounting job, and without really understanding why,
29:40
Speaker 1: she booked herself a room at a hotel. This is
29:44
Speaker 1: in Sydney, Australia. She arrived at this hotel early Friday
29:48
Speaker 1: evening and was disappointed to discover that this was not
29:52
Speaker 1: a great hotel, a sort of dirty and run down,
29:56
Speaker 1: but the only really redeeming feature was that did have
29:58
Speaker 1: a nice view of the So she was unpacking in
30:03
Speaker 1: her room, and it was around six thirty pm when
30:06
Speaker 1: she walked over to the window to take a look
30:08
Speaker 1: at the view of the coastline, and this is when
30:11
Speaker 1: she saw a strange light in the sky. And I'll
30:15
Speaker 1: just quote Karen directly as she says, it was so
30:19
Speaker 1: intense that I wondered what on earth it could be,
30:22
Speaker 1: and why it didn't seem to be moving in any direction.
30:25
Speaker 1: What was it? And how could it hover there for
30:27
Speaker 1: such a long period of time, Almost as if the
30:31
Speaker 1: bright object had heard my thoughts. It began to descend,
30:35
Speaker 1: getting so bright that I had to shield my eyes
30:37
Speaker 1: from it. It seemed to be so incredibly close, was
30:41
Speaker 1: now only fifty feet above the water, and so bright
30:45
Speaker 1: that I just couldn't look at it without screwing up
30:48
Speaker 1: my eyes. Then nothing. The next thing Karen knew she
30:54
Speaker 1: was waking up to see the cleaning lady entering her
30:57
Speaker 1: hotel room, and the cleaning lady was really surprised to
31:01
Speaker 1: see her there, apologized and explained that she thought that
31:05
Speaker 1: Karen would have checked out of the hotel by now.
31:09
Speaker 1: Karen was puzzled by this and explained that she had
31:11
Speaker 1: actually booked this hotel for the whole weekend until Sunday.
31:16
Speaker 1: At that point, the cleaning lady looked confused and told Karen,
31:21
Speaker 1: but it is Sunday. Karen could not believe that. She
31:25
Speaker 1: was shocked. She had no memory at all of Friday night,
31:29
Speaker 1: all of Saturday day and Saturday night, but the cleaning
31:34
Speaker 1: lady said it was now Sunday morning. The cleaning lady left,
31:39
Speaker 1: Karen started to examine herself in her room. She saw
31:43
Speaker 1: that her Sham Pooh bottle, which she had brought to
31:46
Speaker 1: the hotel, was now half empty. That confused her because
31:49
Speaker 1: she had no memory of using it, but she decided
31:54
Speaker 1: to check out of her room because now that it's Sunday.
31:58
Speaker 1: She returned home and verified that it was in fact Sunday,
32:02
Speaker 1: and that she was missing more than twenty four hours
32:06
Speaker 1: of time. And as Karen says in her own words,
32:11
Speaker 1: there's something extremely airy about suddenly realizing that you have
32:15
Speaker 1: missed a big chunk of time which you have absolutely
32:18
Speaker 1: no recollection of. It totally disorients you to a degree
32:23
Speaker 1: that you just can't think about it without creating a
32:25
Speaker 1: panic inside that feels like you're going to lose it
32:29
Speaker 1: any movement. So she met with her friends at her
32:33
Speaker 1: home and began to tell them about her missing time episode,
32:37
Speaker 1: and as she was going through it, she suddenly had
32:40
Speaker 1: full recall of what happened during this missing time. So
32:45
Speaker 1: while she did have missing time, she remembered without the
32:48
Speaker 1: aid of hypnosis, and as Karen says in her own words,
32:54
Speaker 1: the very first thing I remembered was that one second
32:57
Speaker 1: I had been sitting in the chair watching the light,
33:00
Speaker 1: and the next moment I was on board something that
33:02
Speaker 1: looked like a spacecraft. Immediately ahead of me were a
33:06
Speaker 1: bunch of people. Remember this happened in an instant, so
33:10
Speaker 1: I was in a state of utter shock to find
33:12
Speaker 1: myself in this position. I was terrified, disoriented, and like
33:17
Speaker 1: a cornered rabbit. As I found myself standing there facing
33:20
Speaker 1: these people, I had no idea how I got there,
33:24
Speaker 1: no idea who these people were. There were two men
33:27
Speaker 1: and three women. The men were the closest to me,
33:31
Speaker 1: and the women were just a few feet behind them,
33:33
Speaker 1: standing more or less side by side. In hindsight, they
33:37
Speaker 1: didn't look menacing at all. In fact, they were the
33:40
Speaker 1: most beautiful people I'd ever seen. They all had jet
33:44
Speaker 1: black hair and the most pearl blue piercing eyes I
33:48
Speaker 1: had ever seen. Their skin was extremely pale and their
33:52
Speaker 1: complexion flawless. So reorienting herself and realizing that something very
33:58
Speaker 1: strange was happening, she grabbed her purse, pulled the scissors
34:03
Speaker 1: out of them, and held them in front of her, menacingly,
34:06
Speaker 1: telling these strange people don't come near me. Don't come
34:09
Speaker 1: any closer now. The man standing closest to her at
34:14
Speaker 1: this point raised his hand, and boy, Karen was shocked
34:18
Speaker 1: at what happened next. Her metal scissors began to sort
34:21
Speaker 1: of curl up by themselves into a tight ball. As
34:25
Speaker 1: she says, I could not believe what I was witnessing.
34:29
Speaker 1: They kept on curling until they were wound up in
34:32
Speaker 1: the tightest curl you could imagine, so they were now
34:36
Speaker 1: useless as a weapon. She put them back in her purse,
34:40
Speaker 1: and at this point the man and the others there
34:43
Speaker 1: sort of smiled at her with mild amusement, and the
34:46
Speaker 1: man said, don't worry. We're not here to hurt you.
34:51
Speaker 1: We only need to look at something. There is no
34:54
Speaker 1: need to worry. You will be all right, I promise.
34:58
Speaker 1: So Karen at this point began and to hammer them
35:01
Speaker 1: with questions, asking them, who are you how did I
35:04
Speaker 1: get here? What do you want with me? Who are you?
35:08
Speaker 1: And the man said, don't worry about it. You won't
35:11
Speaker 1: be here long. You don't need to worry about all
35:14
Speaker 1: of that. So Karen wasn't entirely convinced, but asked them
35:19
Speaker 1: what they wanted. The man said, we just need to
35:23
Speaker 1: look at your hands. Now, this sounded absurd to her,
35:27
Speaker 1: but the man just sort of smiled and gestured for
35:29
Speaker 1: her to follow him. They walked out of this room
35:33
Speaker 1: down a curved, sort of upward sloping corridor, into a
35:39
Speaker 1: small alcove directly off of this corridor, and, as Karen says,
35:44
Speaker 1: there was a little machine there that looked like a
35:47
Speaker 1: mirrored surface. It was about two feet by two feet,
35:51
Speaker 1: and he asked me to place my hands on top
35:53
Speaker 1: of this machine as he needed to get a record.
35:58
Speaker 1: So this was really puzzling to Karen. She was absolutely astonished,
36:03
Speaker 1: but followed the directions placed her hands on this cool,
36:07
Speaker 1: mirror like surface for just a few seconds until the
36:10
Speaker 1: man told her that they had what they needed and
36:12
Speaker 1: to please wait there. And this man took what Karen
36:18
Speaker 1: believes was an image of her palms down the corridor
36:22
Speaker 1: back to where she had come from, and they all
36:25
Speaker 1: seemed to be very excited about this. Karen was puzzled.
36:29
Speaker 1: She looked at her palms but saw nothing unusual. And
36:33
Speaker 1: at this point the man led her about fifty feet
36:36
Speaker 1: down the curved corridor into another room and told her
36:40
Speaker 1: to wait there and that they would be sending her
36:42
Speaker 1: home soon. So at this point Karen found herself alone
36:46
Speaker 1: in this strange room, and as Karen says, the room
36:51
Speaker 1: was the odds shape I have ever seen. The best
36:54
Speaker 1: I can describe it is that it was like a
36:56
Speaker 1: half diamond, with slanted walls and ceiling. To one side
37:01
Speaker 1: of the curved room, there was a place to sit down,
37:04
Speaker 1: which I did. There was nothing much to look at.
37:07
Speaker 1: There no windows, and the entire room was a very
37:10
Speaker 1: odd red rust color, which I found quite irritating after
37:14
Speaker 1: a while, which was the reason I decided to do
37:17
Speaker 1: a little exploring on my own, since they'd left me
37:21
Speaker 1: here on my own for quite some time. I got
37:24
Speaker 1: up and moved to the doorway, and to my left
37:27
Speaker 1: was where I'd come from, slanted downwards, but to my
37:31
Speaker 1: right was the corridor which kept winding upwards. So at
37:35
Speaker 1: this point she knew that she was probably inside some
37:38
Speaker 1: sort of craft in that the people were ets. She
37:42
Speaker 1: was very curious. She peeked outside the corridor and decided
37:45
Speaker 1: to explore in the opposite direction from where the other
37:49
Speaker 1: people had come from. So she turned right and started
37:52
Speaker 1: walking up this winding corridor until it ended in a
37:56
Speaker 1: large room with a comfortable looking chair in the very
38:00
Speaker 1: center of the room. She walked up to the chair
38:03
Speaker 1: and brushed the arm of the chair with her fingers,
38:06
Speaker 1: to her amazement, when she did that, the walls and
38:09
Speaker 1: ceiling became transparent. She lifted her hand up quickly and
38:15
Speaker 1: the walls turned back to normal. So she put her
38:18
Speaker 1: fingers back on the arm of the chair and the
38:20
Speaker 1: same thing happened. This really intrigued her, so she sat
38:24
Speaker 1: down in the chair, and she could hardly believe what
38:26
Speaker 1: happened next. And again, I'll just quote Karen directly as
38:30
Speaker 1: she says, I delicately climbed into it and lay back
38:35
Speaker 1: with both hands resting on either arm of the chair.
38:38
Speaker 1: This is where I find it so incredibly difficult to explain.
38:42
Speaker 1: No matter how many times I try and explain this,
38:45
Speaker 1: I can never do. The awesome spectacle of it justice,
38:49
Speaker 1: I was alone in the universe. There were no walls,
38:53
Speaker 1: no ceiling, just myself on the chair, surrounded by the
38:57
Speaker 1: beauty of space. It was the most magical moment. Whoever
39:01
Speaker 1: designed something like that surely can't be all bad. I
39:06
Speaker 1: immersed myself in the experience and heartily noticed that someone
39:10
Speaker 1: had now walked into the room with me. So at
39:14
Speaker 1: this point she saw that this was the same man
39:17
Speaker 1: who had led her to the alcove, entering the room,
39:20
Speaker 1: and he did not seem to be angry or upset,
39:23
Speaker 1: but did tell her firmly to return to the room
39:26
Speaker 1: or she was supposed to be waiting. And looking at
39:29
Speaker 1: this man, she had a strong sense of familiarity, like
39:33
Speaker 1: she knew him from somewhere, and she turned to follow
39:36
Speaker 1: him back, and the next thing she knew, she was
39:39
Speaker 1: waking up in the hotel room and the maid was
39:42
Speaker 1: waking her up. So as she described this to her friends,
39:47
Speaker 1: she remembered the scissors, ran to her purse, fished them out,
39:51
Speaker 1: and there they were, just as she remembered them. And
39:54
Speaker 1: her friends were all very much impressed, and this was
39:58
Speaker 1: her evidence, so she kept then very close to her,
40:01
Speaker 1: looking at them. Many times she's away from home. At
40:05
Speaker 1: this point she lived in New Zealand, but she was
40:08
Speaker 1: planning on flying back there shortly. Then, on February thirteen,
40:13
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, right before she was about to fly back,
40:17
Speaker 1: there was a terrorist bomb attack next to the Sydney
40:21
Speaker 1: Hilton Hotel and Karen went to go on her flight.
40:27
Speaker 1: She had the scissors in her luggage and she prepared
40:29
Speaker 1: to board the plane, but security was very strong and
40:33
Speaker 1: she had to go through several checks of her luggage.
40:37
Speaker 1: Finally she was cleared to go home, and when she
40:39
Speaker 1: arrived home, the scissors were gone, so she lost her
40:42
Speaker 1: evidence unfortunately. But Karen, like many contactees, does have recall
40:50
Speaker 1: of being taken from her home as a young child,
40:53
Speaker 1: visiting friendly human looking ets who told her that they
40:56
Speaker 1: were her true family, but she had to stay on
40:59
Speaker 1: Earth she had a job to do. She also does
41:02
Speaker 1: remember seeing grays as a young girl age twelve, she
41:06
Speaker 1: had a gray come into her bedroom, bend down and
41:09
Speaker 1: hold his face directly close to hers. She was so
41:13
Speaker 1: scared she passed out at age seventeen. She says that
41:17
Speaker 1: she was actually taken, she believes to the ET's planet,
41:21
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's not certainly a one off. She's had
41:24
Speaker 1: a lot of encounters, but years after her nineteen seventy
41:28
Speaker 1: eight experience, she did have an interesting encounter with a
41:33
Speaker 1: palm reader and had a startling revelation because the ets
41:38
Speaker 1: had seemed to be very interested in her palms and
41:39
Speaker 1: she couldn't figure out why. But as Karen says, years later,
41:44
Speaker 1: when I first visited a palmist, I found out that
41:47
Speaker 1: I indeed did have a very unusual marking in the
41:51
Speaker 1: center of my right hand. It is a point that
41:55
Speaker 1: has six lines that intercede all in the center, creating
41:59
Speaker 1: a perfect in the dead center of my palm. It
42:03
Speaker 1: is like the star of David. So she wonders if
42:06
Speaker 1: there's a connection there. But this experience absolutely transformed her.
42:11
Speaker 1: She became very interested in UFOs and conspiracies and all
42:16
Speaker 1: kinds of esoteric subjects and currently does have a website
42:21
Speaker 1: Karenlister dot com where she talks about all of these
42:26
Speaker 1: subjects and her own experiences. So that is the onboard
42:30
Speaker 1: experience of Karen Lister, and yeah, pretty darn amazing. And
42:34
Speaker 1: once again we see how powerfully this impacts a person,
42:37
Speaker 1: with her becoming intensely involved in all these esoteric subjects, UFOs, conspiracies,
42:46
Speaker 1: and so forth, it sort of becomes a mission for
42:49
Speaker 1: a lot of contactees to really get the word out
42:53
Speaker 1: about a variety of these kinds of subjects. Certainly true
42:57
Speaker 1: in her case. And here is the last case I'd
43:01
Speaker 1: like to present to you today. This is probably the
43:04
Speaker 1: most extensive of all the onboard experiences I'm talking about today.
43:08
Speaker 1: I call this one the onboard experience of Antonio Nelso Tosca.
43:16
Speaker 1: This occurred in Chepeiko, Brazil, which isn't a huge place,
43:21
Speaker 1: certainly not back when it occurred in nineteen eighty three,
43:24
Speaker 1: but it's a very compelling case. There are corroborating witnesses
43:29
Speaker 1: who saw UFOs in the area at the time this
43:31
Speaker 1: gentleman was taken on board. He did remember this consciously.
43:36
Speaker 1: There's some very compelling physical evidence in the form of
43:43
Speaker 1: physiological effects and I believe electromagnetic effects. So a very
43:50
Speaker 1: interesting case also because it became super well known and
43:54
Speaker 1: is one of Brazil's in fact best verified cases. Some
44:00
Speaker 1: of the details we see in one of the first
44:03
Speaker 1: recorded on board experiences, that of Antonio vs. Bullis, so
44:09
Speaker 1: as we shall see, there's some very interesting details in
44:13
Speaker 1: this one. This next and last case is considered by
44:17
Speaker 1: many ufologists in Brazil to be one of the best
44:20
Speaker 1: verified and most important cases in the country. The main
44:25
Speaker 1: witness is Antonio Nelso Tasca. He's a real estate agent
44:30
Speaker 1: sixty two years old at the time of his incident.
44:33
Speaker 1: And it was around eight pm on the evening of
44:35
Speaker 1: December thirteenth, nineteen eighty three, and Antonio was driving along
44:40
Speaker 1: a dirt road about three to four miles outside of
44:44
Speaker 1: the city of Chappeco, and he came upon a long,
44:48
Speaker 1: narrow craft hovering ahead of him on the road. Now,
44:53
Speaker 1: as he's coming upon this, he first thought it might
44:55
Speaker 1: be a bus, until he saw that this object was
44:58
Speaker 1: actually hovering j above the ground, and he continued to
45:03
Speaker 1: drive up to it, stopping his car about one hundred
45:06
Speaker 1: feet away to get a better look. And he could
45:09
Speaker 1: see now that this craft had about ten square portholes
45:13
Speaker 1: arranged in a row along the top section of this craft.
45:17
Speaker 1: The craft itself was about thirty feet long and nine
45:19
Speaker 1: feet high, and long enough that it blocked the entire
45:24
Speaker 1: width of the road. It appeared to be resting on
45:27
Speaker 1: a beam of light and it glowed with this green light,
45:31
Speaker 1: and seeing that this was very unusual, Antonio turned off
45:36
Speaker 1: his car turned off the headlights, got out of the
45:39
Speaker 1: car and walked towards this object, and he approached to
45:43
Speaker 1: within about thirty feet. At this point he could feel
45:48
Speaker 1: a strong heat emanating from the craft. This concerned him,
45:52
Speaker 1: so he started to walk backwards, keeping his eye on
45:56
Speaker 1: the object, up to his car and he he finally
46:00
Speaker 1: reached his car, still looking at this object, and he
46:04
Speaker 1: reached out and touched the car door handle to get
46:07
Speaker 1: back inside. And at this exact moment, a yellow beam
46:12
Speaker 1: of light about three feet wide came from the object,
46:17
Speaker 1: swept towards him and engulfed him, and the second the
46:22
Speaker 1: light hit him, this beam, which was very unusual, began
46:26
Speaker 1: to retract back into the craft, and Antonio was shocked
46:30
Speaker 1: to see that this beam of light was actually carrying
46:33
Speaker 1: him towards this object, and he was unable to resist,
46:38
Speaker 1: unable to move or react, as he felt himself being
46:41
Speaker 1: pulled right inside of this object. As he got real close,
46:46
Speaker 1: he could see that this object was in fact metallic
46:49
Speaker 1: and gray in color, and as he was pulled through
46:52
Speaker 1: the wall of this object, he lost consciousness and when
46:56
Speaker 1: he woke up, he found himself laying down on a
47:00
Speaker 1: flat surface, unable to move in a very cold, dark room,
47:06
Speaker 1: and remembering what had just happened being struck by this
47:09
Speaker 1: beam of light, he thought, at first for a second
47:13
Speaker 1: that he had been pronounced dead and was buried inside
47:15
Speaker 1: a coffin, and this caused extreme fear. He began to
47:19
Speaker 1: gasp for breath, started crying, but found he was unable
47:23
Speaker 1: to call out or even move his body. And at
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Speaker 1: this moment he felt a blast of warm air, heard
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Speaker 1: footsteps approaching. He said, it sounded like three or four
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Speaker 1: people walking towards him, surrounding him, and he felt them
47:38
Speaker 1: examining his body. He could also hear them talking in
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Speaker 1: a strange, grunting kind of language. The next thing he knows,
47:46
Speaker 1: he's being lifted up, carried and placed on the floor
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Speaker 1: of another room, And at this point the room became
47:53
Speaker 1: brightly illuminated. Although there was no direct light source, the
47:57
Speaker 1: room was well lit and he could see now see
48:00
Speaker 1: that it was a small room about eight by nine feet,
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Speaker 1: with rounded metallic walls very much like polished aluminum, but
48:08
Speaker 1: there were no visible doors, no windows or openings of
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Speaker 1: any kind. Antonio saw that he was undressed and his
48:18
Speaker 1: clothes had been placed in a pile next to him, now,
48:22
Speaker 1: without warning, an opening appeared in the wall, and in
48:26
Speaker 1: walked this beautiful woman. She was very short, just under
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Speaker 1: four feet tall. Antonio himself was about five foot six inches.
48:36
Speaker 1: This woman had very light shoulder length hair, a light
48:41
Speaker 1: pale complexion, very large blue almond shaped eyes that were
48:46
Speaker 1: widely spaced on her head, kind of wrapped around the
48:50
Speaker 1: sides of her head a little bit looked very exotic.
48:53
Speaker 1: I mean, it was clear she wasn't human. She was
48:56
Speaker 1: wearing a sort of ugly dress, according to Antonio, and
49:01
Speaker 1: she reached out her hand to him in a very
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Speaker 1: friendly gesture. And it was quite strange because at this
49:07
Speaker 1: point Antonio could hear these beautiful musical sounds in his head.
49:12
Speaker 1: He saw beautiful colors flashing through his mind's eye, and
49:16
Speaker 1: he felt this overwhelming sense of peace, joy and longing.
49:21
Speaker 1: And at this point the woman began to speak to
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Speaker 1: him telepathically and said, I am Kabbala, messenger of Agali's world.
49:31
Speaker 1: I come on a mission of peace and love. So
49:35
Speaker 1: Antonio asked where are we, and the woman replied, we
49:41
Speaker 1: are in the ocean, one hundred and eighty meters below
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Speaker 1: sea level. So Antonio's mind raced at this point, and
49:50
Speaker 1: he was very confused. He also realized at this point
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Speaker 1: he was very thirsty. He was absolutely overwhelmed by the
49:57
Speaker 1: woman's beautiful appearance and wondered if it was the fact
50:02
Speaker 1: that this woman was so incredibly exotic and beautiful that
50:06
Speaker 1: it was making him have difficulty thinking clearly. And the
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Speaker 1: woman replied to him, you will drink right now, and
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Speaker 1: your thirst will pass, as well as your state of confusion.
50:21
Speaker 1: At this point, he noticed that a three foot long
50:24
Speaker 1: apparatus of some kind with red buttons on it appeared
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Speaker 1: on one of the walls. The woman pressed one of
50:30
Speaker 1: the buttons and a drawer came out of the wall.
50:34
Speaker 1: Was very strange because this drawer seemed to be part
50:37
Speaker 1: of the craft itself. And she opened this drawer and
50:41
Speaker 1: pulled out these two small kind of tube like containers
50:45
Speaker 1: filled with liquid. She handed one of these containers to
50:48
Speaker 1: Antonio and told him to drink what she did. He
50:52
Speaker 1: drank this liquid, which she said looked like water, but
50:56
Speaker 1: was somehow lighter than water, somehow different. He handed her
51:02
Speaker 1: back the container, and she gave him the second container
51:04
Speaker 1: to drink. What he did, and this liquid wasn't water.
51:08
Speaker 1: It was a thicker substance tasted kind of like blackberries
51:13
Speaker 1: and was slightly acidic. So the woman took the container back,
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Speaker 1: put them both in the drawer, and began to speak
51:22
Speaker 1: telepathically again in Portuguese, his native language, and said, now
51:27
Speaker 1: you won't feel thirsty or confused before me. It is
51:31
Speaker 1: time for us to fulfill a mission of great importance
51:34
Speaker 1: for which we have been chosen. Stay calm. At this point,
51:40
Speaker 1: Antonio asked, after this, will I be returned to my world?
51:45
Speaker 1: And she said yes, but there's a right time for that,
51:48
Speaker 1: otherwise you will be placed in a place very far
51:51
Speaker 1: from here where you live. So she told him that
51:56
Speaker 1: they had chosen him to share a message for all humanity.
52:01
Speaker 1: This confused Antonio because he was neither rich nor influential.
52:06
Speaker 1: He was nobody special, and this is what he told them.
52:09
Speaker 1: He said, you know, why did you choose me? I'm nobody,
52:13
Speaker 1: and she replied, you have always believed in extraterrestrial existence
52:19
Speaker 1: and have already desired such an encounter. So Antonio felt
52:24
Speaker 1: himself very strongly attracted to this strange woman. And at
52:28
Speaker 1: this moment a sort of couch emerged from the wall again.
52:33
Speaker 1: It was made from the craft itself, no seams. It
52:36
Speaker 1: was about three feet wide he estimates five feet long
52:39
Speaker 1: and fixed to the wall. The woman, at this point
52:43
Speaker 1: undressed herself and laid down on the couch and looked
52:46
Speaker 1: at him invitingly, and Antonio, of course, was still undressed.
52:51
Speaker 1: He approached and laid down with her, and the two
52:53
Speaker 1: of them became intimate, and this act of intimacy was
52:59
Speaker 1: very cool, at which point she spoke out loud for
53:03
Speaker 1: the first time and said the word ahmor, the Portuguese
53:07
Speaker 1: word for love, and she smiled, but at the same
53:11
Speaker 1: time she also looked slightly sad. But when she smiled,
53:14
Speaker 1: Antonio could see it for the first time that she
53:17
Speaker 1: had very small, childlike teeth. They both put their clothes
53:21
Speaker 1: back on and she told him that as the result
53:25
Speaker 1: of their union, she would be having two children. So
53:30
Speaker 1: this really affected him profoundly, and at this point she
53:34
Speaker 1: told him that they wanted him to transmit a message
53:38
Speaker 1: to the people of earth. Antonio began to protest, said
53:42
Speaker 1: that he didn't really have a good memory, would not
53:45
Speaker 1: be a suitable spokesperson for them, and told her, he said, Madame,
53:52
Speaker 1: as I leave here, my mind will fail and I
53:55
Speaker 1: will remember only a few excerpts from the message. This point,
54:00
Speaker 1: the woman approached the same apparatus on the wall, pressed
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Speaker 1: another button, which caused another drawer to open, and she
54:07
Speaker 1: pulled out this weird crown like device, kind of like
54:10
Speaker 1: a tiara, which you can see here, and placed it
54:14
Speaker 1: on his head. And she said, with this in your head,
54:19
Speaker 1: you will see me twice telling you the message, and
54:23
Speaker 1: it will never leave your memory. And she began to
54:26
Speaker 1: sort of adjust this device on his head, and then
54:30
Speaker 1: she related this very lengthy message, which I'd like to
54:34
Speaker 1: quote directly because it's a really interesting message that a
54:38
Speaker 1: lot of contactees get something along these lines. And here's
54:42
Speaker 1: the message, warning of the messenger Kabbalah from the world
54:46
Speaker 1: of a Golly to the peoples of Earth, the weapons
54:50
Speaker 1: of war must be immediately deactivated, capable of ending any
54:54
Speaker 1: kind of life here that exists, in addition to all
54:57
Speaker 1: its terrifying and deadly devastation, in all out nuclear war
55:02
Speaker 1: will put the Earth off its celestial path and cause
55:06
Speaker 1: serious disturbances to the lives of neighboring worlds. Some in
55:11
Speaker 1: dimensions that terrestrial man is still unaware of the political,
55:16
Speaker 1: economic and financial dominations of nations over nations must be abolished.
55:23
Speaker 1: Imperialism contradicts the right of equality of the peoples and
55:27
Speaker 1: constitutes a new and solemn form of enslavement. The essence
55:33
Speaker 1: of human life and its natural functions of reproduction must
55:37
Speaker 1: be preserved in nearby stars and in others unattainable to
55:42
Speaker 1: present day man, life arising from the breath of eternal Spirit,
55:46
Speaker 1: creator of all things God, which is why it should
55:50
Speaker 1: not be this object of imponderable experiences, because these will
55:56
Speaker 1: end in irreversible genetic disaster. It is necessary that within
56:02
Speaker 1: the strictest criterion of justice and morals, with a view
56:05
Speaker 1: to the solution of the social problems resulting from disordered
56:09
Speaker 1: human proliferation, organs must be instituted that by natural scientific means,
56:16
Speaker 1: plan and execute programs of population control and biological improvements
56:22
Speaker 1: of man. It is necessary for man to conquer other
56:25
Speaker 1: worlds in the universe and there find suitable places for
56:29
Speaker 1: his future emigrations and new sources of energy in subsistence.
56:35
Speaker 1: But first he must conquer his own world, unraveling to
56:40
Speaker 1: it the enigmas that still exist on land, in the sea,
56:44
Speaker 1: and in the air, preserving its vitality important natural elements,
56:51
Speaker 1: defending it from the subtle piracy of the outside and
56:54
Speaker 1: curing its human imperfections of mind, body, and spirit. It
56:59
Speaker 1: is necessary that, having heated these exhortations, humanity be prepared
57:05
Speaker 1: for the period of extraordinary events of which the Earth
57:09
Speaker 1: will soon be the stage. The great events will be
57:12
Speaker 1: foreshadowed by strange, telluric electrical manifestations and celestial signs of
57:19
Speaker 1: magnificent splendor and unsettling beauty. Masters of supreme wisdom will
57:25
Speaker 1: come back to Earth, renew wonderful teachings and help establish
57:29
Speaker 1: a new political society. The earthly paradise will be reborn,
57:33
Speaker 1: full of light and love. Then, through means and energies
57:37
Speaker 1: now not even supposed man will know the concave convex
57:41
Speaker 1: dimensionals of Earth will travel to the depths of the
57:45
Speaker 1: universe and will not feel the fatigue of time. And
57:49
Speaker 1: as a sublime conquest of human creative capacity, the machine
57:53
Speaker 1: of absolute power will be put into action and ingenuity that,
57:58
Speaker 1: among many other wonders, will will give humanity the happiest,
58:01
Speaker 1: happiest and most haunting vision it's in its entire history.
58:09
Speaker 1: So this is the message that she gave to all
58:12
Speaker 1: the peoples of Earth, even talking about the resurrection of
58:16
Speaker 1: those who have passed away, at which point she removed
58:19
Speaker 1: the strange device, put it back in the drawer, and
58:23
Speaker 1: told Antonio peace and love. She backed up to the wall,
58:29
Speaker 1: disappearing through the Through the wall, Antonio was now alone
58:32
Speaker 1: in the room. Sadness and loneliness swept over him. The
58:37
Speaker 1: room became completely black. Antonio heard footsteps approaching, and he
58:41
Speaker 1: was led into another room, the same one where he
58:44
Speaker 1: had arrived, laid back down, the temperature dropped, and he
58:48
Speaker 1: passed out. He woke up in a completely different location,
58:52
Speaker 1: which was about one or two miles outside of the
58:54
Speaker 1: city of Chiappeko, who was lying on the ground, was
58:57
Speaker 1: now mourning. He estimates about six am. He was unable
59:02
Speaker 1: to move for almost two hours before he finally regained
59:05
Speaker 1: control of his body, at which point he got up,
59:08
Speaker 1: walked into town and immediately called his family. They were
59:12
Speaker 1: frantic at this point because they had found his abandoned car.
59:16
Speaker 1: They had called the police, in fact, who were looking
59:18
Speaker 1: for him criss crossing the area where he had disappeared.
59:23
Speaker 1: So returning home, Antonio explained to his family the whole
59:26
Speaker 1: story of what he remembered. They immediately took him to
59:30
Speaker 1: the Santo Antonio hospital, where he was examined by doctor
59:34
Speaker 1: Julio Zawadiski, and other than being nervous and having some
59:39
Speaker 1: increased blood pressure, he was found to be perfectly healthy.
59:43
Speaker 1: The later that day, while undressing, Antonio's family didn't notice
59:47
Speaker 1: a strange mark on his back. Antonio felt no pain
59:51
Speaker 1: or irritation from this mark, but it was a pretty big,
59:55
Speaker 1: big mark, and he went back to the doctor, who
59:58
Speaker 1: said it looked like a healed scar. There was no
1:00:03
Speaker 1: redness surrounding this mark, no swelling. Even the hair around
1:00:07
Speaker 1: this mark was intact, so this was all quite puzzling,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: and a closer examination revealed two small red dots on
1:00:14
Speaker 1: his chest, which were slightly painful, though they disappeared by
1:00:18
Speaker 1: the next day. The only other effect was extreme thirst
1:00:23
Speaker 1: and a loss of appetite, which lasted for about three days,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: and at that point Antonio vomited up this yellow liquid,
1:00:32
Speaker 1: which tasted of that same acidic BlackBerry taste that he
1:00:37
Speaker 1: had drunk with the second container of liquid. So UFO
1:00:42
Speaker 1: researchers did find out about this case investigated it in depth,
1:00:47
Speaker 1: interviewing the witness and asking other people in the area
1:00:50
Speaker 1: if they had seen anything on that night in that area,
1:00:54
Speaker 1: and they did. They found two witnesses who had seen
1:00:57
Speaker 1: a UFO flying around in the sky on that same
1:01:01
Speaker 1: night Antonio was taken, and in that same area they
1:01:05
Speaker 1: examined Antonio's car, and they also found something interesting. The
1:01:09
Speaker 1: front end of the car, which had been closest to
1:01:12
Speaker 1: the craft, was magnetized in a much greater degree than
1:01:16
Speaker 1: the back end of his car. And another weird effect
1:01:21
Speaker 1: was that Antonio's car, which always had trouble starting, worked beautifully.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: It would start immediately, and this was a weird effect
1:01:29
Speaker 1: which lasted for about ten days and then returned to normal.
1:01:34
Speaker 1: Another thing they also noticed was that Antonio's belt buckle
1:01:38
Speaker 1: and belt clip and his metal watch strap also showed
1:01:43
Speaker 1: themselves to be magnetized. So at some point Antonio was
1:01:50
Speaker 1: hypnotized to see if he could recall any other details.
1:01:54
Speaker 1: He couldn't recall anything else of that fully conscious experience,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: but he did remember that at age seventeen, he had
1:02:00
Speaker 1: a prior UFO and Connor where he had seen a
1:02:03
Speaker 1: ball of light which dropped down from the sky and
1:02:06
Speaker 1: came very close to him, And he recalled being taken
1:02:10
Speaker 1: at age eleven from his home by strange men who
1:02:14
Speaker 1: came into his bedroom. Later, Antonio did write a book
1:02:18
Speaker 1: about his experience, it's called A Man Marked by Ets,
1:02:23
Speaker 1: and he spoke publicly about his experiences many times until
1:02:26
Speaker 1: his tragic death in two thousand and eight due to
1:02:30
Speaker 1: a car accident. And that is the final case I'm
1:02:34
Speaker 1: going to be talking about today. The onboard experience of
1:02:38
Speaker 1: Antonio Nelson Tosca, I think provides some really compelling evidence
1:02:43
Speaker 1: not only of UFO reality, but of what happens when
1:02:46
Speaker 1: people are taken on board. And as unusual as some
1:02:50
Speaker 1: of those details are, they have been echoed in other cases,
1:02:54
Speaker 1: and not just Antonio vs. Bois, but many others. So
1:03:00
Speaker 1: I think it behooves us all to take these cases seriously.
1:03:04
Speaker 1: They are a lot more common than people realize. These
1:03:07
Speaker 1: five cases are just the tip of the Iceberg fact.
1:03:10
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety one, the Roper organization, which does polling,
1:03:15
Speaker 1: conducted a survey and found that about one in fifty
1:03:19
Speaker 1: people have been taken on board a UFO show the
1:03:23
Speaker 1: markers of this that's millions of people, and it echoes
1:03:27
Speaker 1: very closely what j. Allen Heinek, the father of modern euthology, said.
1:03:33
Speaker 1: He estimated that it was at least one in forty
1:03:35
Speaker 1: people who have been taken on board, and I agree.
1:03:39
Speaker 1: I mean I did not have to ask fifty people,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: and I found several who have been taken on board
1:03:45
Speaker 1: and had really dramatic encounters. So yeah, much more common
1:03:49
Speaker 1: than people realize. And these five cases, I think alone
1:03:54
Speaker 1: illus straight exactly what it's like to have ET contact,
1:03:58
Speaker 1: shows how profoundly it can affect you on multiple levels emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually,
1:04:07
Speaker 1: and psychically. So we have a lot to learn from
1:04:11
Speaker 1: cases like these. That's really why I wanted to present them.
1:04:15
Speaker 1: That's why I do this UFO research, because so many
1:04:18
Speaker 1: people are going through these experiences and we can learn
1:04:22
Speaker 1: a whole lot from them. So that's it for today.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for watching. I truly
1:04:29
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and until next time, keep searching for answers,
1:04:34
Speaker 1: keep looking for the truth, and most important, keep having fun.