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MOM Suzanne Morphew's Body Found in "The Boneyard" Dump: HUSBAND, 'I DIDN'T DO IT" · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace missing mom Suzanne Morpheu's body,
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Speaker 1: her remains, her bones found in a wasteland known as
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Speaker 1: the Boneyard. This as husband Barry Morphew insists in court.
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Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Barry Morphy, charged in his wife Suzanne's murder, walks free
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Speaker 2: because now his wife's body turns up what's left of
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Speaker 2: it full of animal tranquilizers.
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Speaker 3: Did you have anything to do with the disappearance of
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Speaker 3: your wife.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's very hurtful to lose your reputation and
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Speaker 1: your integrity. That from our friends at GMA. Good morning America.
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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone, Thank you for being with us tonight. What
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Speaker 1: a long and twisted and Rocky wrote it has been
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Speaker 1: to get husband Barry more few in court. I mean
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Speaker 1: straight out to veteran trial lawyer who shot to fame
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Speaker 1: during the Alex Murdog trial in his backyard, Mark Tate,
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Speaker 1: veteran trial lawyer joining us from the Tate Law Group, Mark,
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Speaker 1: it's a field day for a defense attorney to have
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Speaker 1: the original charges dropped. Thrown out, the original murder charges
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Speaker 1: against Barry more Few were thrown out for various reasons.
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Speaker 1: But the case was almost cooked, almost baked. You know
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Speaker 1: when you open the oven and you look at the
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Speaker 1: cake and it looks good, but you touch it, it's
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Speaker 1: a little gooey on the inside. Too soon, right, the
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Speaker 1: case was thrown out and Barry Moore Few did a
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Speaker 1: little jig up and down the Cournhouse halls. Hey I'm free,
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Speaker 1: And he sued the government for fifteen million dollars claiming
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Speaker 1: prosecutorial misconduct. That's bold. You should just take your win
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Speaker 1: and quietly creep away. But hgub l n O more
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Speaker 1: a Few filed a fifteen million dollar lawsuit against the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors for prosecutorial misconduct and more. He's been reindicted.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a terrible the civil laws suitable idea, horrible idea.
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Speaker 4: I'm a plaintiffs lawyer as well, and I think I
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Speaker 4: would want to talk to that lawyer on behalf of
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Speaker 4: more Few and discuss the bad, bad advice that he got.
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Speaker 4: It may well be legal malpractice to have done that,
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Speaker 4: because it certainly drew Barry back into the spotlight of
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Speaker 4: this district Attorney's office. I think that causes a real pain.
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Speaker 1: Take back, cut, take day, take number one. It pains me,
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Speaker 1: but I agree with you. But you can't say the
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Speaker 1: prosecutors refiled the indictment, the murder indictment against Barry Morphia
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Speaker 1: because they were po technical legal term, it's a Latin
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Speaker 1: derivative pode oh the lawsuit because they tried, like h
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Speaker 1: double l at the beginning to indictment, indict him and
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Speaker 1: charge him in this case, and no lawsuit had ever
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Speaker 1: been filed. But I will say that suing the prosecutor
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Speaker 1: for fifteen million dollars and you're acting all innocent, like
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Speaker 1: your hands are clean, Yeah, that did pour a little
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Speaker 1: gas on the flame. I think you're right about that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if they weren't inciitivized before to indict him,
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Speaker 1: they were then tate.
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Speaker 4: Well, sure, lawyers are motivated by many things. And you
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Speaker 4: got somebody coming after you saying that you were inappropriate
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Speaker 4: in your job, you're going to say, well, wait a minute,
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Speaker 4: I think we to spend some more time on this.
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Speaker 4: And in this instance, I think it made it so
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Speaker 4: their likelihood proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt changes significantly,
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Speaker 4: mainly because now they have apparently very well put together
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Speaker 4: autopsy results, and so I know you like to say,
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Speaker 4: I want.
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Speaker 1: To yes, oh, yes, let's talk about those autopsy results.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of BAM? B brother, a alpha
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Speaker 1: m mother. It's be torphinal zapperone and metatoma medda to
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Speaker 1: mid die metatoma dine. What is it? It's an animal tranquilizer.
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Crime Stories. Investigative reporter on the case
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Speaker 1: from the very beginning, Dave Mac. Dave Mac, how many
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Speaker 1: people in the state of Colorado, the state, not the city,
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Speaker 1: not the county, the state of Colorado have access or
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Speaker 1: have obtained BAM.
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Speaker 3: There's only one private citizen living in the entire state
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Speaker 3: of Colorado that had access as to BAM, Barry Morphew.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Mark Tate? One person that's not
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Speaker 1: a vet or a licensed professional, and the whole state
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Speaker 1: has access to BAM. I don't know why he had
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Speaker 1: to have animal tranquilizers. He came up with a story
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Speaker 1: that I think that he would shoot the animals and
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Speaker 1: then take their horns off of them a sportsman. But yes,
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Speaker 1: the whole state. Okay, now we've got the setup. Now
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Speaker 1: I'm going out to special guests joining us. Doctor William Moroney,
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Speaker 1: medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist, opioid treatment expert, author of American Narcan.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Moroney is running for the Michigan thirty five district
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Speaker 1: State Senate seat. And I wish you luck on that that,
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Speaker 1: although I hate to lose you to politics. Oh that said,
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Speaker 1: he didn't just write a book. He created his own
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Speaker 1: mobile opioid treatment facility. Mobile. He travels around trying to
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Speaker 1: help people and explain to them and treat them for
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Speaker 1: opioid addiction and overdose and raises a family and as
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Speaker 1: a medical examiner, that said, Bam, I will let you
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Speaker 1: pronounce these. These drugs beutrphenol as zaparone and the other one.
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Speaker 5: What are they Beutorphenol is used in migraine headaches. It's
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Speaker 5: an opioid derivative. The menomtomidate that is only used to
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Speaker 5: intubate in surgery and by ambulances. And Azaperone is a
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Speaker 5: family that we know from buse pronone, which is an
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Speaker 5: anti azelitic, takes away anxiety and in high doses it's
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Speaker 5: used to calm people down who are manic or having
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Speaker 5: a panic attack. So that is a cocktail.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to, and I had to struggle
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Speaker 1: with medical examiners my entire prosecution career. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I didn't disagree very often with what they said. I
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Speaker 1: just can't understand what you're saying. It's like you're speaking
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Speaker 1: in hieroglyphics, you know, Egyptian writing. And if I can't
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Speaker 1: understand it, I don't expect a jury to understand it either.
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Speaker 1: So these are my layperson notes. Metrphenol is a synthetic.
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Speaker 1: It's an opioid, and in US it's a controlled substance according.
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Speaker 2: To the DEA.
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Speaker 1: In other words, you can't get it at Walgreens. Okay.
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Speaker 1: The second one, the A in a zaparine. The A
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Speaker 1: in BAM causes tranquilization. It's a tranquilizer. It reduced. This
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Speaker 1: is your motor activity. You can't move. That's what the
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Speaker 1: A is for. So the first one is an opioid derivative,
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Speaker 1: like heroin is an opioid derivative. The next one immobilizes
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Speaker 1: you. You can't move. And the third one, the M has
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Speaker 1: been shown useful for anesthesia and immobilization in zoo animals. Now,
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Speaker 1: the reason I'm pointing out zoo animals is BAM, including
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Speaker 1: the m in that equation can take down a rhino.
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Speaker 1: A rhino, okay, explain.
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Speaker 5: Well, those large animals need to be controlled so we
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Speaker 5: can do medical procedures on them, and in this case
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Speaker 5: in America we use them on moose, we use them
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Speaker 5: on elk in another country. To study animal husbandry, you
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Speaker 5: need to paralyze an animal, walk up to it and
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Speaker 5: work on it. Paralyzing an animal has to be so
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Speaker 5: that it's safe, so that you can make that animal
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Speaker 5: sleepy if you give all those medicines. The whole idea
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Speaker 5: is to put somebody into a paralytic state, or if
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Speaker 5: you do very high doses, they may die. But the
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Speaker 5: menotommodate commodate is very common in all of our eers,
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Speaker 5: but nobody uses it outside of the hospital. And as
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Speaker 5: a piron it's part of an antipsychotic or an anti
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Speaker 5: anxiety family, so it makes you not care what's happening,
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Speaker 5: and you're dissociated and the state all is the brand
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Speaker 5: name for butorphanol. It's it's used sparingly now, but it
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Speaker 5: used to be used as a management for headaches and
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Speaker 5: especially migraines. But it's something that if you use it regularly,
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Speaker 5: you can become a ducat.
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Speaker 6: You're losing me.
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Speaker 1: You're losing me. You're losing me. Okay, come on, we're
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Speaker 1: playing ping pong, not chess. Okay, you're speaking to regular people. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I have a law degree, but I know nothing about
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. So you got me lost in the sauce. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's bad, it's a cocky. But the one word I
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Speaker 1: got out of that is you shoot a moose. Okay,
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Speaker 1: a moose. You lost me. After that, I got a
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Speaker 1: little bit of it. You shoot rhinos with this stuff,
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Speaker 1: you bring down giant game. What would it do to
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Speaker 1: a little lady that weighed about one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: pounds if you shot her with BAM in a nutshell?
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Speaker 5: In a nutshell, If it didn't kill her right away,
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Speaker 5: she'd sleep for two weeks.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to special guests
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Speaker 1: joining us. Gregory Nieto, investigator reporter Fox thirty one, Denver.
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Speaker 1: He's been on the case from the very very beginning, Gregory,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to Morphew back in court. But
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Speaker 1: when Susanne Morphew's bones bones were found in the quote
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Speaker 1: boneyard waste land found really by coincidence. Was BAM in
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Speaker 1: her system?
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Speaker 6: To the best of our knowledge out here it was
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Speaker 6: at the time.
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Speaker 1: Well, wasn't it revealed in the autopsy that BAM was
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Speaker 1: in her system?
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Speaker 6: That is correct? I mean between that and what was
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Speaker 6: found inside the dryer at the morphu morphu residence, between
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Speaker 6: the rifle or the tranquilizer rifle, and the needle cap
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Speaker 6: that was found along with berry shorts that are linked
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Speaker 6: to the rents surrounding May ninth and May tenth. He
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Speaker 6: put those three factors together, and it seems like it
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Speaker 6: should be a slam dunk case.
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Speaker 1: Well that's what they said about aj Simpson two. So
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Speaker 1: I try not to use that particular vernacular or jargon. So,
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Speaker 1: Greg Grinietta, you said, well, to the best of our
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Speaker 1: knowledge out here, she had BAM in her system. Yes, no,
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Speaker 1: you are now on cross warning, Gregornierto, isn't it true
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Speaker 1: the autopsy report showed BAM and Suzanne Morpheus system. Yes, no, yes,
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Speaker 1: it did show that. And isn't it true that a
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Speaker 1: cylinder like a dark gun, a BAM dark gun cylinder.
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Speaker 1: What was found in Morphew's dryer two things?
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Speaker 6: I mean, you find the needle cap that's associated with
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Speaker 6: that sort of paralyzing agent, to put it in Layman's terms.
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Speaker 6: And then again his shorts are found in the same
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Speaker 6: dryer as that needle cap shorts that are attached to
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Speaker 6: again the events of May nine, May ten, shorts he
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Speaker 6: was seen wearing in surveillance video at the time of
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Speaker 6: Suzanne's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: And the significance of May nine is May nine, isn't
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Speaker 1: it true? Gregory Inietto around two o'clock in the afternoon,
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Speaker 1: I believe was the last time that Suzanne Morphew was
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Speaker 1: heard from on social media, phones, texts, emails, nothing after
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Speaker 1: that time. And he was wearing those shorts around the
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Speaker 1: time she dropped off the face of the earth. Isn't
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Speaker 1: that true?
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Speaker 6: That's true, wearing those shorts at the time that she
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Speaker 6: supposedly had gone out for that bike ride and never
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Speaker 6: came back, and leading up to the events of him
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Speaker 6: heading north of Salida allegedly later that weekend to head
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Speaker 6: to a job site in Broomfield.
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Speaker 1: So you attach, Okay, you're put in the cart before
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Speaker 1: the horse. You're putting the cart before the horse, and
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Speaker 1: everything you're saying is absolutely correct as usual, Niatto, But
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Speaker 1: I'm focusing on the BAM. Why am I focusing on
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Speaker 1: the BAM Because you start your case always with a bang,
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Speaker 1: with some of your strongest evidence, then you follow it up,
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Speaker 1: and then you end it with strong evidence. The fact
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Speaker 1: that she has BAM in her system, one person in
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Speaker 1: the state, according to Dave Mack and others, had access
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Speaker 1: to that outside of vets and medical professionals is ary
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Speaker 1: more few. Now I want to talk about how her
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Speaker 1: body was found. Could you describe Niato the so called boneyard.
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Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me what is the boneyard?
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Speaker 1: Where is it?
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Speaker 6: Bonyard is about an hour mouth of Salida. It's in
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Speaker 6: an area that if you didn't know it existed, we
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Speaker 6: drive right past it. But it's known for, unfortunately finding
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Speaker 6: a lot of as you mentioned, bones, but usually we're
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Speaker 6: talking about animal bones. We're not talking about the bones
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Speaker 6: of a mother and a wife.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that, Gregor Nieto, because sometimes
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Speaker 1: we get bogged down, including me. I can't see the
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Speaker 1: forest for the trees. I'm so focusing on the probative
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Speaker 1: value of each piece of evidence, okay, because that's how
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Speaker 1: I'm trained, That's how I see the world now. But
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Speaker 1: you just said mother. Mother Suzanne Morpheu fought cancer when
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Speaker 1: her bones were found out in a desolate wastelink known
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Speaker 1: as the bone yard. Her port, her cancerport, was there
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Speaker 1: with her remains. This little lady thought cancer with all
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Speaker 1: of her heart, her soul, her strength, because she wanted
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Speaker 1: to be there for her two girls growing up. And
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Speaker 1: isn't it the irony that it looks like she may
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Speaker 1: beat cancer and then she's murdered And I want to
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Speaker 1: talk about this. I don't know how are you going
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Speaker 1: to get around this, Mark Tate. You're the veteran defense attorney.
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Speaker 1: Whoever killed her and the state says it's bury more
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Speaker 1: few left her body in the boneyard, out in the
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Speaker 1: open for animals to chew on and eat and tear apart.
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Speaker 1: The killer never thought her bones would be found. But
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Speaker 1: three years past and they are found. How can you
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Speaker 1: reconcile that with a jury? How can you look them
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna all look over very more for you
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Speaker 1: and think he left her out there for this beautiful
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Speaker 1: mom to have her body torn apart by animals and nod.
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Speaker 4: On the portrait that the prosecutors will be able to
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Speaker 4: draw here is shocking, and he is absolutely by what
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Speaker 4: can be described a disgusting, repulsive human that you don't
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Speaker 4: have anything to do with. So his his issues that
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Speaker 4: are you're not helping. I'm not helping yet the only
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Speaker 4: helping him.
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Speaker 1: You're the defense lawyer just said what I would say, argument.
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Speaker 4: Is, I'm going to have to go hire another forensic pathologist,
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Speaker 4: another medical examiner who can pick apart the autopsy results
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Speaker 4: and cause some doubt about whether that material was actually
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Speaker 4: found in them. I don't see any other, uh, any
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Speaker 4: other thing to attack this with. If you take away
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Speaker 4: the BAM or even cause there to be some question
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Speaker 4: about whether it was actually found, you might have a chance.
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Speaker 4: But all the story that you just spun, that will
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Speaker 4: be in opening statements and inclosing arguments. I have spin
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Speaker 4: it or if you look terrible, well that's your job.
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Speaker 4: You're a prosecutor.
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Speaker 1: Spin it. I'm not rumbel steals can spinning hey into gold.
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the fact. Karen Stark, He's in
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Speaker 1: a whole heap of trouble. Let's just put it like that.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now a renowned forensic psychologist. She is a
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Speaker 1: TV radio trauma expert, a consultant, and you can find
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Speaker 1: her at Karenstark dot com. That's Karen went to see
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Speaker 1: Karen in a nutshell. I do not know how a
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Speaker 1: defense attorney is going to somehow shroud Barry Moore. Few
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Speaker 1: in the Indish of respectability when they hear one person
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Speaker 1: in the state unless that stat can be attacked, and
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Speaker 1: I don't think it can be outside of medpros like
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Speaker 1: vets and doctors have access to these read drugs. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Moroney was describing the B the M, the B, the A,
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Speaker 1: the M, not just that. I mean they're gonna be
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Speaker 1: pain of the scene of her running away from him
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Speaker 1: in the home and him chasing her with a dark gun,
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Speaker 1: chasing his wife, his cancer survivor wife, the mother of
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Speaker 1: his children, chasing her through this home out in the
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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere with a dark gun. I guarantee you
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Speaker 1: a trial, we're going to hear about animal activity, as
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Speaker 1: it's euphemistically called on her bones. Who and the HG
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Speaker 1: double L would do that?
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Speaker 8: See, this guy has no emotions, clearly right, he's narcissistic.
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Speaker 8: He coerced her, he controlled her, He did things like
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Speaker 8: using a gun. Everything that you mentioned. He pins her
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Speaker 8: down to the bed, the fact that she was paralyzed
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Speaker 8: and he could take control so he could preserve his image,
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Speaker 8: and they and it doesn't look like there was any
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Speaker 8: domestic violence, even the fact that he puts the lame
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Speaker 8: on everybody else, the media, the police, her, everyone else
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Speaker 8: is at fault except for him. Classic traits that show
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Speaker 8: that this guy is not someone who feels anything. There
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Speaker 8: is nothing about him that is a sensitive, good guy.
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Speaker 1: I know that they won't like it, but I would
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Speaker 1: make the jury and I've actually had jerars turn away physically.
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Speaker 1: I would make them. I would walk them through what
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Speaker 1: happened to her body out there, lying out there in
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Speaker 1: the elements, and first one animal comes up, then another,
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Speaker 1: then they start eating her body and tearing apart her bones,
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Speaker 1: tearing literally tearing the flesh off her bones. What's the
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Speaker 1: first thing to go? Birds taking her eyes? I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but by the time I got into closing argument, I
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Speaker 1: would know, and I would have the jury walk through,
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Speaker 1: even if I had to drag them. What happened to
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Speaker 1: Suzanne more few She.
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Speaker 9: Went on a bike ride Mother's Day morning and never
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Speaker 9: came back.
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Speaker 1: Her daughters were camping on Mother's Day and they called
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Speaker 1: her relentlessly to talk to their mom on Mother's Day.
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Speaker 6: Why would she be riding that bicycle by herself on
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Speaker 6: Mother's Day, Mother's Day weekend?
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Speaker 1: Why was she by herself on Mother's Day? Why was
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Speaker 1: that a hastily planned trip out of town for Barry Morphew.
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Speaker 1: His coworker is very clear that they weren't supposed to
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Speaker 1: leave till late that night. But Morphew leaves at what
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Speaker 1: five o'clock in the morning. That's a whole another can
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Speaker 1: of worms that I think is approbate of value. But
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this.
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Speaker 10: The Chafe County Sheriff's Office arrested Suzanne Morphy's husband, Barry Morphew.
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Speaker 10: He was taken into Cussey, near his home and Poda Springs.
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Speaker 10: He was loaned at the time of his arrest, and
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Speaker 10: he was arrested without incident.
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Speaker 6: Sheds not do for celebration, nor does it mark the
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Speaker 6: end of this investigation.
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Speaker 10: Rather, it's the next step of it's very difficult, yet
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Speaker 10: very important journey as we seek justice for our susanitor family.
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Speaker 7: We're not releasing the affidavit and we don't have a body,
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Speaker 7: so how can I convince the public that we have
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Speaker 7: a strong case. That's my job. I'm the one that
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Speaker 7: considers how strong my case is before I bring charges,
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Speaker 7: and I wouldn't bring charges unless I was confident.
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Speaker 1: That was then. This is now. They didn't release the affidavit.
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Speaker 1: Then I've got it now. That was from our friends
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Speaker 1: at Fox thirty one. I want to walk through this affidavit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is what we learn. This is along with the
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Speaker 1: murder charges murder in the first degree in Colorado. You
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Speaker 1: go on and you see a supporting affidavit. So much
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Speaker 1: stands out to me in the probable cause for count one.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to Scott Iiker joining us. He
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Speaker 1: is a digital forensics expert, and listen to this founding
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Speaker 1: member of the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation Cellular
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Speaker 1: Analysis Survey Team. Wow. He is currently with Precision Cellular
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Speaker 1: Analysis handling criminal cases. Scott, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: I was going through what we learn about the digital
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Speaker 1: trail of both more Few and Susanne leading up to
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Speaker 1: the time of her disappearance on a death and everybody.
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Speaker 1: The reason we're here tonight, Barry Morphew's first indictment was dropped.
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Speaker 1: Everything was dropped. We sued the government for fifteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars claiming he's the victim. Now he's been reindicted on
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Speaker 1: murder and he's back in court. Will there ever be
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Speaker 1: justice for Susanne Morphew? The only way to get justice
24:17
Speaker 1: is to have a steel stomach and look at the evidence.
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Speaker 1: What can I learn from the digital evidence, Scott.
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Speaker 11: Ker As you have touched on a little bit before.
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Speaker 11: We have cell phone records from the life and from Barry,
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Speaker 11: and we also have vehicle telematics from his truck, his
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Speaker 11: work truck. We have a lot of difference.
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Speaker 1: It's a telematic. What is a telematic and what is
24:45
Speaker 1: an entertainment system?
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Speaker 11: So your vehicles also have cell phones in it, so
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Speaker 11: that there's a cell phone data you can pull from
24:56
Speaker 11: the phone company that handles that big type of vehicles.
25:00
Speaker 11: Sometimes it's AT and T, sometimes it's T Mobile. And
25:02
Speaker 11: then there's the infotainment system within the vehicle. It's more
25:06
Speaker 11: for maintenance, but also has a lot of information of
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Speaker 11: like when the vehicle was started, when it was moved,
25:12
Speaker 11: when the brakes were applied, when an accident, hurt occurred,
25:17
Speaker 11: you know things like that. So all this is put
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Speaker 11: together to put that timeline.
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Speaker 1: And when I read that.
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Speaker 11: Affi David, I really saw that they're putting a timeline
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Speaker 11: together saying that her phone went off at this point
25:28
Speaker 11: in time. His phone went off at this point in time,
25:31
Speaker 11: his vehicle moved at this point in time, and they're
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Speaker 11: laying it all out in a very good manner to
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Speaker 11: show he was there at the time that her phone
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Speaker 11: went off.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested in another thing. His digital data
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Speaker 1: reveals he stated that he left five a m. That's
25:52
Speaker 1: not true based on the digital data. The digital data
25:58
Speaker 1: shows that he left at a completely different time. Isn't
26:03
Speaker 1: that true? Gregory Nieto, That is true.
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Speaker 6: He was supposed to head up from Salida up to
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Speaker 6: the Broomfield Erigain just north of Denver for a job
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Speaker 6: site work project. And initially he was supposed to head
26:18
Speaker 6: up to that Broomfield location with this coworker that he
26:23
Speaker 6: stayed in contact with over the next couple of days.
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Speaker 6: But the stories just don't match. I mean, you see
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Speaker 6: the surveillance video of Barry in the hallway at this
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Speaker 6: Hotelios have a surveillance video of Barry going to various
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Speaker 6: dumpsters in the Broomfield area. And he maintains that he
26:41
Speaker 6: was at the job site at the time that he
26:43
Speaker 6: was notified about his wife, and this coworker had said
26:48
Speaker 6: that basically couldn't be true because he didn't bring the
26:51
Speaker 6: necessary tools that we needed to complete the task.
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Speaker 1: Okay, number one, the coworker says they were supposed to
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Speaker 1: leave that evening late that evening for an alleged job
27:03
Speaker 1: in Broomfield. That's not true. Morphew says that he left
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Speaker 1: at five am. Five am. That is not borne out
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Speaker 1: by his digital forensics. He left at a completely different time.
27:17
Speaker 1: Why is he lying what was happening at that home
27:22
Speaker 1: during those hours? She's not seen or heard from. After
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Speaker 1: May nine, that's the day before he leaves. Her children
27:30
Speaker 1: don't hear from her, her friends, She has no social media,
27:34
Speaker 1: no phone calls, no anything. He is supposed to ride
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Speaker 1: with the friend. Instead he leaves that morning around three am.
27:45
Speaker 1: Why what in the hay? Then he goes to Broomfield
27:50
Speaker 1: and he basically lounges around the hotel room for nine
27:55
Speaker 1: hours doing what. Oh and there's one more thing. Isn't
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Speaker 1: it true, Greg Renieto that he visited multiple trash cans
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Speaker 1: and dump sides explained.
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Speaker 6: It is true caught on a surveillance video visiting these
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Speaker 6: various dumpsters in and around that hotel where he was
28:15
Speaker 6: staying up in Broomfield, and that was a major facet
28:19
Speaker 6: or tenant when we first visited this case back when
28:24
Speaker 6: Barry was originally arrested. It's still coincides in a bad
28:30
Speaker 6: way with what went down back at the more Few
28:34
Speaker 6: home in regard to that dark rifle or tranquilizer rifle
28:37
Speaker 6: and the needle cap that was found in the dryer
28:39
Speaker 6: along with his shorts. You match what was seen on
28:43
Speaker 6: surveillance video outside the more Few home, You match that
28:46
Speaker 6: with what was seen up outside that Broomfield and inside
28:49
Speaker 6: the Broomfield hotel, and the stories again don't add up,
28:54
Speaker 6: and they don't match up when it comes to that
28:56
Speaker 6: coworker that he was supposed to be with, at least
28:58
Speaker 6: for the drive up and perhaps the right back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he called the cowork and went, oh yeah, I
29:03
Speaker 1: already left. Sorry. I want you to think back on
29:08
Speaker 1: Photus Dulos, his wife, the mother of his five children
29:13
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, Mama five, Jennifer goes missing. Her body's never
29:18
Speaker 1: been found. There was a profuse amount of blood her
29:22
Speaker 1: blood in the garage after it drop off. That morning,
29:25
Speaker 1: she dropped the children off at school. She's never been
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Speaker 1: seen again, and Photus Dulos went on a trash round
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Speaker 1: up listen.
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Speaker 3: Investigators believe surveillance video from Hartford shows Photus Dulos the
29:38
Speaker 3: same day Jennifer Farber Dulos disappeared getting in and out
29:42
Speaker 3: of a truck and disposing of black trash bags with
29:44
Speaker 3: Michelle Treconez in the passenger seat.
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Speaker 9: Several pieces of evidence, including a bra that had been
29:49
Speaker 9: cut down the middle of the front and a vineyard
29:51
Speaker 9: vine's shirt Jennifer Dulos is believed to have worn the
29:54
Speaker 9: day she vanished, stained with blood.
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Speaker 1: There's photos Dulos going all around town done his trap,
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Speaker 1: much like we see Barry Morphew too straight out to
30:05
Speaker 1: Tate joining us. Mark Tate, veteran defense attorney, want a
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Speaker 1: lot of cases. Why did Barry morph You have to
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Speaker 1: go out of town to throw out his trash? Why
30:15
Speaker 1: did he drive all the way to his next job
30:18
Speaker 1: site well over an hour to throw out trash? Sure, well,
30:22
Speaker 1: you go on vacation or a work trip, you just
30:25
Speaker 1: take a whole suitcase full of trash and not just
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Speaker 1: in one place. But let me see while he's talking.
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Speaker 1: As much as I like to look at Tate, could
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Speaker 1: we look at Morphew throwing out all that trash in
30:37
Speaker 1: all those different locations. There you go, he's such a.
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Speaker 4: Meeting, Nancy Grace. My job in this instance is not
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Speaker 4: going to be to talk about why he's throwing trash away.
30:48
Speaker 4: My job is going to be to focus on that
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Speaker 4: autopsy that found this sedative paralytic.
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Speaker 1: Stop stop it. You can do that to a jury,
30:59
Speaker 1: but it ain't on crime stories. I asked you about
31:02
Speaker 1: the trash. You're trying to do is make me think
31:05
Speaker 1: about your attack on the BAM And we've already done
31:10
Speaker 1: that us first.
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Speaker 4: From talking about this evidence, and you know I'd hate
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Speaker 4: to do it. That's what we do a lot of
31:17
Speaker 4: this inflammatory.
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Speaker 1: Can we talked about the trash.
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Speaker 4: In, Nancy Grace, it's not going to come in all
31:23
Speaker 4: of this giant is going to the jury.
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Speaker 1: Do you just hear throwout? I'll follow emotion and lemonade
31:33
Speaker 1: very simply. Most leimone is when you go to the judge,
31:37
Speaker 1: when you know that evidence is particularly damning for your clients, you.
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Speaker 4: Want to prejudice this jury. Do you remember that poor
31:46
Speaker 4: guy down there who was alleged to have blown up
31:48
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Olympics. I know you do. That poor guys
31:52
Speaker 4: Richard Jewles's life was ruined because there was a predetermined
31:55
Speaker 4: outcome of his criminal trial. We got to respect the
31:59
Speaker 4: fact that there is one thing that can be attacked here,
32:02
Speaker 4: and that is the results of this autopsy. And you know,
32:05
Speaker 4: there are forensic pathologists who have studied the ability to
32:10
Speaker 4: find these specific drugs in a decayed body. It was
32:13
Speaker 4: one published in twenty twenty five, in fact, and that's important.
32:17
Speaker 4: And we want to convict this guy if he's guilty,
32:20
Speaker 4: because what he did means if what he did is true,
32:23
Speaker 4: he should never walk this planet free again. That's why
32:27
Speaker 4: it's important that we prove beyond a reasonable doubt and
32:30
Speaker 4: make sure there is no doubt about that he did this.
32:33
Speaker 4: The story's inflammatory, it's biased against him. Nothing looks good
32:37
Speaker 4: about what he did. We got to look at the
32:40
Speaker 4: science of whether that drug was found in her, and
32:43
Speaker 4: even if it's not, even if there's a reason to
32:45
Speaker 4: find that it's reasonable that he may not have poisoned
32:47
Speaker 4: her with that drug or y'd have been there. Then
32:50
Speaker 4: if he's found guilty. Despite that, then the jury's heard
32:54
Speaker 4: the information and still be found guilty.
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Speaker 1: Doctor William Maroney, as much as I hate to rehab
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Speaker 1: what we've already talked about in Mark Tate's effort, and
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Speaker 1: I understand what he's doing to avoid the fact that
33:08
Speaker 1: Barry Morphew took his trash from home all the way
33:12
Speaker 1: on a work trip. What did he put it in
33:13
Speaker 1: a suitcase and then went to multiple dumps to get
33:17
Speaker 1: rid of it? And he's caught on tape. I can
33:20
Speaker 1: see him. It's him. Can you please address Tate. It's
33:27
Speaker 1: like the squeaky wheel, you know, when you're driving Maroney
33:30
Speaker 1: and you keep hearing something going roop, or when you
33:34
Speaker 1: hit the brakes and you go and you know something's
33:37
Speaker 1: way wrong and it won't go away. Could you please
33:41
Speaker 1: explain in regular people talk, Dr Maroney, how the medical
33:46
Speaker 1: examiner found this deadly cocktail of animal trunk in Susanne Morphew.
33:55
Speaker 1: Because it's going to be really hard to find another
33:57
Speaker 1: medical examiner to refute this. Did they do it? Doctr Maroney?
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Speaker 12: Two battling experts, one of them is going to say,
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Speaker 12: we have the science to prove if we take dry tissue,
34:12
Speaker 12: if we take dry muscle, If we take desiccated dried
34:18
Speaker 12: organs like the liver, we can cut them up and
34:22
Speaker 12: rehydrate them and then we kind of make like a
34:26
Speaker 12: slurry or like a milkshake, and then when it's in
34:31
Speaker 12: a liquid form, we extract BAM and then we can
34:37
Speaker 12: give you a concentration based on her size. And the
34:43
Speaker 12: expert that's going to throw it out is going to say,
34:46
Speaker 12: you don't have the published science to prove that's a
34:50
Speaker 12: fatal dose, or you don't have the published science to
34:55
Speaker 12: show that you can have a dose and that dose
35:00
Speaker 12: is biologically incompatible with life. So that's two steps to
35:04
Speaker 12: prove that you have it. Is one you have to
35:07
Speaker 12: prove that you have the science forensically. The defense has
35:13
Speaker 12: the easiest job because they can just show that the
35:17
Speaker 12: science doesn't work, that the science is not representative. And
35:22
Speaker 12: even if you have to find BAM in the first
35:26
Speaker 12: step from those organs and muscles that have been desiccated
35:30
Speaker 12: and dried out in the boneyard for three years and
35:35
Speaker 12: then rehydrated. And then the second thing you have to
35:39
Speaker 12: show is the concentration of those agents, those paralyzing agents,
35:45
Speaker 12: those old voids, the concentration available in her tissue, her organs,
35:51
Speaker 12: and her muscle.
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Speaker 8: Is that.
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Speaker 1: You're studying that. You have to show the jury how
35:58
Speaker 1: you extract you recreate her dried organs by making, as
36:04
Speaker 1: you said, a slurry like you get at Dairy Queen
36:06
Speaker 1: or McDonald's. You take her dried organs and you hydrate them.
36:11
Speaker 1: In other words, pour in distilled water or saline solution
36:15
Speaker 1: of some sort, and you make it a liquid. You
36:19
Speaker 1: blend her organs, her dried organs with liquid. By making
36:24
Speaker 1: it liquid, you can then extract various things. You can
36:28
Speaker 1: do drug labs. You can do all sorts of labs,
36:32
Speaker 1: but you can pull a BAM lab look for those
36:36
Speaker 1: three drugs. That's how you do it. Then you have
36:40
Speaker 1: to prove the concentration of the drug in her body. Okay,
36:45
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. Now, say somebody like Mark
36:49
Speaker 1: Tate brings in a hired gun to attack what you did.
36:53
Speaker 1: How do you prove what you did is legitimate? How
36:58
Speaker 1: can they possibly disprove that?
37:00
Speaker 12: Well, that's where the Daubert comes in iSER versus Merrill
37:06
Speaker 12: dow And in that lawsuit, the judge claimed that the
37:12
Speaker 12: court did not have the technology to verify what was
37:19
Speaker 12: presented as the prosecution's argument, and that was again verified
37:25
Speaker 12: back in two thousand and seven. I think the judge
37:28
Speaker 12: was Rose Aqualina. It was Lancey Michigan. She threw out
37:33
Speaker 12: a homicide because she said they did not have the
37:37
Speaker 12: technology to prove that.
37:40
Speaker 1: Hey, Maroni, I understand about Dobt. I understand the Dobert
37:44
Speaker 1: case very well. I'm asking you simply put, when you
37:47
Speaker 1: were attacked in court about your procedure, how do you
37:53
Speaker 1: prove that what you did worked? That's my question.
37:58
Speaker 12: The first thing you do is you to research in
38:01
Speaker 12: forensic chemistry and toxicology and you show that we've done
38:06
Speaker 12: studies like at the Body Farm or European studies when
38:11
Speaker 12: we looked at dead people who were given drugs. Have
38:16
Speaker 12: we successfully in the last five or ten years been
38:20
Speaker 12: able to show that? And if you can show it
38:22
Speaker 12: in literature and your state police crime lab forensic follows
38:29
Speaker 12: the same protocol, use the same chemicals, then they will
38:34
Speaker 12: be able to say we've shown this in case law,
38:38
Speaker 12: we've shown this in research and recopied it, and this
38:42
Speaker 12: is a toxic level that there's no way you can
38:46
Speaker 12: have ddam.
38:48
Speaker 1: Well, I mean to put it in simple terms, Marony.
38:52
Speaker 1: We went through the same thing trying to get DNA approved,
38:55
Speaker 1: familial DNA, all the way back to fingerprints. There's always
38:58
Speaker 1: been a defense attorney climate. That's not real. That's science.
39:02
Speaker 1: That's old as the courtroom.
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Speaker 6: Suzanne is found in a grave site.
39:08
Speaker 1: Her body found in a shallow grave miles away in
39:12
Speaker 1: a state of de cop and completely skeletonized, that she
39:16
Speaker 1: was out of her clothes.
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Speaker 10: We just know our died better than anyone else, and
39:23
Speaker 10: we know he was not involved in our mom's disappearance.
39:26
Speaker 6: I just love my girls, and I love my wife,
39:30
Speaker 6: and I just wanted.
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Speaker 1: To be found.
39:33
Speaker 5: That's what they've done.
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Speaker 9: It's not fair, and we're never going to stop looking
39:39
Speaker 9: for a mom.
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Speaker 1: That from our friends at g M A Good Morning
39:42
Speaker 1: America Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know the phenomena
39:57
Speaker 1: of adult children refusing to accept their parents' guilt, you know,
40:07
Speaker 1: to Gregory Nietto, joining US investigative reporter Fox thirty one
40:11
Speaker 1: Denver KdV are on Susanne's disappearance from the very beginning,
40:17
Speaker 1: Greg Nietto, the daughters don't have anything left. They don't
40:22
Speaker 1: they've lost their mom and now they're looking down the
40:26
Speaker 1: wrong end of a barrel of losing their dad. They
40:30
Speaker 1: don't want to accept it at all. I also have
40:34
Speaker 1: wondered if they felt some sort of guilt because they
40:37
Speaker 1: went away from their mom on Mother's Day weekend. They shouldn't.
40:41
Speaker 1: It was a pretty planned trip with some friends, probably
40:45
Speaker 1: before they even realized that was Mother's Day. And they're
40:49
Speaker 1: the reason, the daughters, or the whole reason the red
40:53
Speaker 1: flag of alarm went up that she was missing because
40:55
Speaker 1: they kept trying to call her for Mother's Day and
40:59
Speaker 1: they couldn't get her. So I think that they're just
41:03
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with fear of losing their dad too, and that
41:08
Speaker 1: they weren't there.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean they've been by his side the entire time,
41:13
Speaker 6: each and every court appearance on Monday, they're right there,
41:17
Speaker 6: just behind where Berry is seated there and down in
41:21
Speaker 6: Alamosa in the courtroom, and they've I think you put
41:25
Speaker 6: it very well, Nancy. I think at a certain point,
41:29
Speaker 6: you've lost your mother and you realize that your dad
41:32
Speaker 6: maybe going away for the rest of his life, and
41:35
Speaker 6: you'll lose two parents in the span of five and
41:37
Speaker 6: a half years. If the trial does indeed start in
41:40
Speaker 6: mid October, that from.
41:41
Speaker 1: Our friends at CBS two Kara start joining US forensics psychologists.
41:46
Speaker 1: I think you can explain it a little bit better
41:47
Speaker 1: than I can. Why adult children have seen this over
41:51
Speaker 1: and over in court because normally the prosecutor has the
41:54
Speaker 1: victim's family lined up behind them in court. Not when
41:57
Speaker 1: adult children are involved. They cannot. It's not that they
42:00
Speaker 1: don't want to accept it. They cannot accept it.
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Speaker 8: If you think about it, it makes perfecal sense to me.
42:07
Speaker 8: Of course, I'm a psychologist, but when you are living
42:11
Speaker 8: with a parent, it is very and close to the parent,
42:15
Speaker 8: it's really difficult to be able to see them as
42:19
Speaker 8: human having flaws doing something that extreme as committing murder,
42:26
Speaker 8: especially with their mother. They are not able to self reflect.
42:31
Speaker 8: They are biased, They cannot. They have no choice about it.
42:35
Speaker 8: In their mind, it has to be that their father
42:39
Speaker 8: is not guilty, and of course you have to add
42:43
Speaker 8: the fact that they don't have their mother anymore.
42:46
Speaker 1: The bike, the bike. I started counting how many times
42:50
Speaker 1: in the affidavit and the supporting documents that Morphy kept saying,
42:54
Speaker 1: look for the bike by bike she went out on
42:56
Speaker 1: a bike ride. I mean he might as well taken
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Speaker 1: out an ad on third avenue. The bike will exonerate me.
43:04
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Gregorio I enjoy watching this
43:08
Speaker 1: particular clip. After all of his urging, finally the bike
43:13
Speaker 1: is found. See this is what he's counting on that
43:15
Speaker 1: somebody on that jury is gonna believe she really went
43:17
Speaker 1: for a bike ride. Okay, let's listen to Bury more few.
43:22
Speaker 1: Is it a crash?
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Speaker 11: I mean the bike looked the way it was land
43:25
Speaker 11: that kind of looks like it, but there's not really.
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Speaker 12: That much damage for a bike. That's the lion. Yeah, lion.
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Speaker 5: I didn't see anything now anything, and they're not letting
43:37
Speaker 5: us go over the side because we're getting to track.
43:42
Speaker 6: Looking for foot.
43:42
Speaker 12: Jacks on the route.
43:44
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything really, but.
43:46
Speaker 6: Like people tracks were lying.
43:49
Speaker 1: I didn't really know this, but I will lie and
43:51
Speaker 1: not like an Okay, there you see him, Bye bye bike.
43:57
Speaker 1: And then actually says Gregory that he thinks the Mountain
44:01
Speaker 1: Lion took her, and I guess the Mountain Lion tried
44:04
Speaker 1: on her bike helmet because it was found what about
44:06
Speaker 1: a mile away?
44:08
Speaker 6: That's correct.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
44:09
Speaker 6: Again, if you remember, shortly after she went missing, we
44:13
Speaker 6: physically went down to the Morphew house. We went down
44:16
Speaker 6: the dirt road that you're seeing there at the end
44:19
Speaker 6: the video. And at this point I think you just
44:23
Speaker 6: on things at the wall right with the sheriff deputy
44:24
Speaker 6: is going to be X, going to be y? Could
44:26
Speaker 6: it be Z versus perhaps the obvious?
44:29
Speaker 1: To Scott Iiker joining us, well, just to button that up,
44:35
Speaker 1: it's quite the coincidence that he says dozens of times
44:39
Speaker 1: she was on a bike cride, bye bye bye, because
44:42
Speaker 1: I believe that he thinks evidence of her going on
44:46
Speaker 1: a bi cride will get him off the hook. I
44:49
Speaker 1: don't know how he's going to try to explain that
44:51
Speaker 1: her helmet was found so far away from the bike.
44:54
Speaker 1: But that said to Scott Iiker joining us founding member
44:59
Speaker 1: FBI Cellular Analysis Survey Team now with Precision Cellular Analysis. Scott, again,
45:06
Speaker 1: thank you for being with us tonight. You know what
45:09
Speaker 1: I love Deleted texts and emails. Do people do old people,
45:15
Speaker 1: as my twins call everyone other than themselves, do they
45:20
Speaker 1: not know to delete deleted emails and deleted texts? Because
45:26
Speaker 1: they're right there, I mean, even I can find them
45:29
Speaker 1: on the phone. So he deleted an entire text chain
45:35
Speaker 1: from Susanne Morphy when she finally says, you know what
45:38
Speaker 1: I'm done. I don't care what you've done in the past.
45:41
Speaker 1: I don't care how long you've been doing it, what
45:43
Speaker 1: you've been up to. I just want to get out
45:46
Speaker 1: of this civilly. I saw all I want. Why did
45:50
Speaker 1: he delete that whole text chain? Everything else is still there?
45:55
Speaker 1: But that happened just before she disappeared, oh before the
46:00
Speaker 1: Mountain Lion got her. He chose to delete it, but
46:06
Speaker 1: he took a screenshot of it, and he still had
46:09
Speaker 1: the screenshot. That's weird, A very rarely screen shot a
46:15
Speaker 1: text chain. Tell me the whole thing. How does it work, Scott.
46:20
Speaker 11: Well, obviously if he's deleting stuff off her phone, he
46:24
Speaker 11: wanted to make sure earth have everybody think they had
46:27
Speaker 11: this perfect marriage. Well, obviously from those text messages, she
46:31
Speaker 11: wanted to get out of the marriage. So he's trying
46:34
Speaker 11: to hide that kind of information. So you can just
46:37
Speaker 11: go in and try to delete something off of phone,
46:40
Speaker 11: but a lot of times, in the extraction of the
46:42
Speaker 11: phone where we hook it up to another device and
46:44
Speaker 11: it reads every little bit of that phone when it
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Speaker 11: was turned on, text message, emails, pictures, everything, we can
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Speaker 11: find those deleted text messages. So he's not doing that
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Speaker 11: very well, that's for sure. If he's trying to hide
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Speaker 11: that information that she wanted to break up with him,
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Speaker 11: were to end that marriage, and having it happen right
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Speaker 11: after or right before she went missing, that's quite suspicious
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Speaker 11: in my mind.
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Speaker 1: Last thing, Gregory Nietto, he was in court, he pled
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Speaker 1: not guilty. Can I just show you the million dollar
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Speaker 1: smile he flashed coming into that courtroom? Wait for it? Oh,
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Speaker 1: there you go, there you go way, that's where our
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Speaker 1: friends at Denver seven. He apparently doesn't have a care
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Speaker 1: in the world. What's with that, Gregory Nietto? And did
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Speaker 1: you say the trial's not until October?
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think he's bought himself some more freedom time, right,
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Speaker 6: I mean, why wouldn't you want the trial to not
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Speaker 6: take place for another ten months or so? I thought
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Speaker 6: it was fascinating on Monday, you know, he walks in
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Speaker 6: with his daughters and he's dressed in a light jeans
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Speaker 6: and a cream sweater, very casual look and seemed very
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Speaker 6: at ease with I'd say, not only the process, but
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Speaker 6: folks in the courtroom. There are very strict rules for
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Speaker 6: the media in terms of not approaching barriers daughters as
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Speaker 6: they walk in or out of the courtroom. But we
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Speaker 6: have one account from one of Suzanne's buddies that he actually,
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Speaker 6: you know, said hello to her and how you doing
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Speaker 6: that sort of thing? And at that shocked shocked her.
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Speaker 6: But again, we have ten more months of freedom. Why
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Speaker 6: wouldn't you be smiling that.
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Speaker 1: From our friends at CBS. Yeah, every day is another day.
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Speaker 1: He's innocent and delayed. Delayed delay a defense attorney's best friend.
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Speaker 1: The case is still being built. If you know or
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Speaker 1: think you know anything regarding justice for Suzanne, please call
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Speaker 1: CBI seven one nine three one two seven five three
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Speaker 1: zero repeat seven one nine three one two seven five
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Speaker 1: three zero. Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend.
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Speaker 9: It is he say