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BONUS: Instant Reaction From Ohio State's 59-3 Win Over Kent State · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: So welcome everybody to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony Gerderman,
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  Speaker 1: here as always with Tom Orton.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Tony, it was, I don't even, this is the second
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  Speaker 3: week in a row.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very different game from last week, but the
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  Speaker 4: second week in a row, it's like, boy, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how to like what, how to make a synopsis.
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  Speaker 3: Of that game in 30 seconds.
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  Speaker 4: Cause it was like, you know, we ended up at
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  Speaker 4: exactly the score more or less that you and I
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  Speaker 4: had both predicted. And yet, ended up there in a
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  Speaker 4: really weird way where it was a really boring game
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  Speaker 4: for long stretches, and Ohio State completely dominated, but also
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  Speaker 4: was really concerning in some other areas, but also hit
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  Speaker 4: a Hail Mary and had a 340-something pound guy score touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. Was this the greatest game in history?
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to say.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee this is probably the angriest fan base after
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  Speaker 1: a 59-3 loss for the Buckeyes because.
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  Speaker 2: The running game is an issue. Let's start out quick.
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  Speaker 2: Celebrating somebody, Jeremiah Smith, breaking the receiving yardage record. Let's
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  Speaker 2: not forget about that.
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  Speaker 5: He is now 29, what did I tell you, Tom?
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  Speaker 5: Right before we hit, 29.58, 2,958 yards receiving, breaking Michael
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  Speaker 5: Jenkins' old record of 2,898, a record that has stood
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  Speaker 5: for 23 years now.
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  Speaker 2: So not a bad deal now. It took him many
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  Speaker 2: fewer games.
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  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day mentioned like 33 games, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it's only 32 because Jeremiah Smith missed the game last year. So, boy,
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  Speaker 1: what we've gotten to see the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: including this year, you don't get to see that every year, certainly.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's okay to acknowledge Jeremiah Smith having
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  Speaker 1: the record now. The first, he said, I got two
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  Speaker 1: more to go. He said, I want to make a
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  Speaker 1: Lucas Kentz record. And he wants Crystal Lave's touchdown record.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think those are coming next week. Because he's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, certainly the touchdown record, he'd have to like
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  Speaker 1: maybe five more to go.
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying that he can't do it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying that's a three point goal.
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  Speaker 5: What are you saying to his face is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if he played four quarters for a change. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Things would go better for him. But so congratulations to him.
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  Speaker 1: The first of, well, it's not even his first record.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: The next of many records. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, this is one of these things where
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  Speaker 4: you look at the long history of Ohio State football
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  Speaker 4: and some of the great wide receivers who've played here
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  Speaker 4: over the years. and just how effortless it was for
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  Speaker 4: him to break this record where it's three games into
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  Speaker 4: his third season.
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  Speaker 3: Is he a senior?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: Is this his fifth year?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Did he take three full years to do it?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: He barely took two years to do it.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just, it was just kind of, from partway
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  Speaker 4: through his freshman year, it was sort of like, well,
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  Speaker 4: of course he's going to do this. Like, obviously he's
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  Speaker 4: going to break this record and also the Emeka Ibuka record.
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  Speaker 3: And also, who has the touchdown record?
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  Speaker 2: Is that? Chris Olave.
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  Speaker 3: Chris Olave?
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You know, those are three pretty good names in terms
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  Speaker 4: of college wide receivers. And it's just, it's a matter of,
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  Speaker 4: will he break all of those records by the middle
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  Speaker 4: of October or will it take all the way until
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  Speaker 4: the end of October and the middle of his third season?
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  Speaker 2: So now we can get to the angry stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I just saw some comments from people about Jacoby Jackson
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  Speaker 1: being the best running back. I still think Bo Jackson
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  Speaker 1: is the best running back. The numbers continue to bear
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  Speaker 1: that out. Jacoby Jackson does have a heck of a
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  Speaker 1: nose for the end zone. So kudos there. I thought overall,
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  Speaker 1: like this is a very disappointing 38 per 145 yards, 3.8
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry.
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  Speaker 2: And the last, what did I say? What did I
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  Speaker 2: tell you before?
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  Speaker 1: 29 carries ended up with 80 yards from the second
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  Speaker 1: through fourth quarter. The first quarter, 65 yards rushing.
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  Speaker 2: You'll take that.
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  Speaker 1: Bo Jackson, that first, the first couple of drives, they're
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  Speaker 1: just moving methodically. And what we talked about before, like
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  Speaker 1: it would be nice just to see like.
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  Speaker 2: Four to nine yards on every carry. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: they got. But they had four carries of 10 yards
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  Speaker 2: or more. Two of them were 10-yarders. Then an 11
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  Speaker 2: and a.
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  Speaker 1: 17-yarder all game. There's a 14-yarder for Jacoby. They had
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  Speaker 1: four runs over 10 yards or more against Kansas or
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  Speaker 1: Kent State.
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  Speaker 2: And that is way low.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that is not acceptable. Yeah. To have a long
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  Speaker 3: of 17 yards in a game where you ran it
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  Speaker 3: 38 times against a bad bat is... That's, I think,
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  Speaker 3: officially a concern.
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  Speaker 4: And You know, we can get into some of the
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  Speaker 4: personnel packages they put out there where, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: look at the Bo.
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  Speaker 3: Jackson numbers, you look at the Jacoby Jackson numbers, and.
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  Speaker 4: It was, you know, 6.6 yards per carry, 5.9 yards
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  Speaker 4: per carry without a long one.
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  Speaker 3: To skew it. That's fine. It's not great. It's fine.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, Faber Aki and Isaiah West and Stanley
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  Speaker 4: Jackson Jr., they got the ball a lot later in
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  Speaker 4: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Isaiah West was playing in the first half. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was a little disappointing.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, a lot of the carries were later
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  Speaker 4: in the game when it was very obvious and you've
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  Speaker 4: got the third string offensive line in and all that
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So, you know, that I don't have it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have that as a huge takeaway as like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is a concern. It just it was just kind
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  Speaker 4: of eh.
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  Speaker 3: And they're fine. Not maybe fine.
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  Speaker 1: And is that a product and byproduct of this being
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  Speaker 1: Kent State coming off the Texas game?
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  Speaker 2: Not that there's a letdown, but you certainly don't need
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  Speaker 2: to be up. Now, you only have so many games,
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  Speaker 2: so you better be up.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just disappointing in that, boy, you'll take 6.6
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  Speaker 1: yards per carry every single week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a certain way 6.6 yards per carry should look. This,
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  Speaker 1: a 17-yard long for Bo Jackson. There are some gigantic
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  Speaker 1: holes in this game.
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  Speaker 2: And they found them, but they didn't get into that
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 1: Third level basically yeah linebackers and um so overall that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a disappointment 145 yards rushing when probably you'd like.
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  Speaker 3: 100 more than that yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The number of carries that you had and the the
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  Speaker 1: size advantage and so then speaking of the size advantage
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  Speaker 1: tyler if we just want to talk a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit about the greatest play in the history of ohio.
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  Speaker 4: State football what dave No, I was hoping you were
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  Speaker 4: leading into Jameer Perrott.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to go into the run game.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, all right.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine. Six offensive linemen bringing in Jake Cook to
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  Speaker 2: play tight end.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was effective enough, but effective when they're
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  Speaker 1: running these big lineups is different than an effective when.
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  Speaker 2: There's more room to run.
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  Speaker 1: We talked in the pregame review and Jock just gets
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  Speaker 1: so congested when you bring tight ends in there.
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  Speaker 2: So I Like, why not take some of them out?
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  Speaker 2: But now it's like, no, we're going to bring more
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  Speaker 2: of them in.
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  Speaker 1: And it just, more than anything, it confirms what everybody's saying.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, that's not a great position for a
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  Speaker 2: coach to.
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  Speaker 1: Be in when you're proving people maybe right or they
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  Speaker 1: think they're being proven right.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we are being proven right that, you know, What
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  Speaker 2: if you did this instead? But you keep doing this
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  Speaker 2: and look at the results.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just, it was pretty, it was pretty uninspiring.
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  Speaker 4: I felt like, and you know, yeah, you, you can,
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  Speaker 4: you eventually scored in the goal line, but there were
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  Speaker 4: a couple of times where it was like, it took
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  Speaker 4: a couple of cracks. It felt like they had a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of tight end out there and they were like
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  Speaker 4: shuttling different tight end on and off the field during the,
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  Speaker 4: during the sequence before halftime where they had back-to-back possessions
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  Speaker 4: where they didn't score.
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  Speaker 3: That was pretty uninspiring.
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  Speaker 4: It just, it feels like, I understand philosophically the idea
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  Speaker 4: here where you're, the whole idea is you've got more
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  Speaker 4: blockers in, you know, packed inside. You can just sort
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  Speaker 4: of out muscle people, but also it's not just that
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  Speaker 4: it's because the defense also brings more guys and it
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  Speaker 4: just gives you more gaps to run into more surfaces
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  Speaker 4: is the term that they'll use.
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  Speaker 3: And the problem is it's like a great idea in theory.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they have the personnel this year where,
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  Speaker 4: that creates a big advantage for you. Like, again, I
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  Speaker 4: understand the theory, but is Ohio State's second tight end
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  Speaker 4: or third tight end better than the third wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: or the second running back? It just feels to me
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  Speaker 4: like you've got.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing.
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  Speaker 4: We barely saw Legend Bay for the second week in
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  Speaker 4: a row. That was an ankle issue. But when you
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  Speaker 4: have Legend Bay back, you'd like to see a second
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  Speaker 4: running back out there.
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  Speaker 3: Frankly, Bo Jackson and Jacoby Jackson. I mean, they've both been... okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think, this year. I wouldn't mind seeing both of them.
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  Speaker 3: I just.
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  Speaker 4: I do not feel like they've gotten really anything out
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  Speaker 4: of the 13 personnel stuff they've done this year.
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  Speaker 1: No, and I think if they had gotten as much
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  Speaker 1: out of the tight ends as they'd like, they wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have to put a tight end jersey on an offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 3: Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, that tells me that you're not getting enough
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  Speaker 1: out of it. So, rather than go away from it,
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  Speaker 1: you're just adding to it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? Maybe just put more sugar in it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like.
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  Speaker 1: yeah sugar's not the problem it's everything else um so
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  Speaker 1: i i don't think that's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Work and it's not going to work as well as
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  Speaker 2: they think it will it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just going to continue to congest things and so it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a grind running the ball this season
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  Speaker 1: this way i believe and maybe it'll click that's fine
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be playing some tougher defenses moving forward
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  Speaker 1: uh boy i had If you're running for 3.8 yards
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  Speaker 1: per carry against Kent State, what are you running for against.
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  Speaker 2: Iowa when they're made for this sort of thing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which then puts, I guess we can switch over to
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  Speaker 1: the passing game, and puts more pressure on Julian Sane,
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  Speaker 1: who 18-22, 241 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Two touchdowns. Three of his throws are like, what was that?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so strange that you're seeing that now this year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we saw any of those. What
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  Speaker 1: was that throw last year? And maybe it's because he's
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  Speaker 1: more experienced, he's more confident and overconfident that we've seen
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  Speaker 1: that with other quarterbacks where the more control they get,
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  Speaker 1: they get a little, I can do what I want.
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  Speaker 2: They were like, I know I can get it there.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's some overconfidence there, but
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  Speaker 1: there's just, and really, how much do we need to
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  Speaker 1: criticize somebody who's placed 82% of his passes? But again,
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  Speaker 1: when we look at the chart of where he's throwing,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be mostly outside. He did hit one
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  Speaker 1: in on like a dagger in route, which was good. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, It's hard to complain about this performance.
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  Speaker 1: That won't stop us or anybody else from doing it. But, again,
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  Speaker 1: the explosions also were not here.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you had the Hail Mary. Yeah. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: You had the 39-yarder to Brock Boyd from Luke Fahey,
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  Speaker 1: which is essentially a scramble drill.
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  Speaker 3: And then you had the 75-yarder.
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  Speaker 1: Which was a five-yard pass. So, like, even with Julian Sane,
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  Speaker 1: and you had a 22-yarder to Devin McCune. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like they could go downfield more or deep more. And
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  Speaker 1: we know coming into the season, it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: a short passing offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There is some of that. And we saw that with
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  Speaker 1: Chris Henry Jr. But you just want to see more. Like,
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  Speaker 1: why aren't you more explosive?
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  Speaker 2: Why aren't you.
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  Speaker 1: Going downfield more against this offense? And it's while they're
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  Speaker 1: in there and trying to limit them. But you've got
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  Speaker 1: enough weapons, I think, that. You shouldn't be so limited.
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  Speaker 4: No, they should be able to do more, especially a
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  Speaker 4: game like this. A game like this, you should just
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  Speaker 4: be able to essentially roll the helmets out there and
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  Speaker 4: just kind of do whatever you want with the defense.
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  Speaker 2: They worked too hard for their 59 points. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you look at the, you know, they didn't
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  Speaker 4: run the ball particularly well, you know, 3.8 yards per carry. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, again, the stipulation that like the first half,
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  Speaker 4: it was fine. And then it sort of got less
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  Speaker 4: fine as the game went along, but you didn't run.
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  Speaker 3: The ball overwhelmingly well.
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  Speaker 4: And then you look at the passing yards and it's
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  Speaker 4: 22 for 28 for 382 yards, three touchdowns and a
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  Speaker 4: couple picks. And, you know, the picks you can sort
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  Speaker 4: of hand wave to a certain degree because they were
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  Speaker 4: both from backup quarterbacks. But the 382 yards, as you said,
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  Speaker 4: three of those plays were 75 yards to Chris Henry
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  Speaker 4: on a, you know, real short one against the backups.
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  Speaker 4: A 39 yarder to Brock Boyd on just sort of
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  Speaker 4: a scramble drill. and then a Hail Mary at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the first half.
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  Speaker 3: That's not in the offense. Those are kind of all
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  Speaker 3: just sort of you're drawing it up in the dirt
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  Speaker 3: to a certain degree. So 75 plus 39, that's 114,
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  Speaker 3: plus 49 yards is 163. Was that right? 163 of
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  Speaker 3: the 382 yards were those three plays. You take those out,
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  Speaker 3: and you're 19 for 25 for, what, 220-something?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: 219, that's a relatively underwhelming day. And those were two
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  Speaker 4: of the three touchdowns. At that point, you're looking at
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  Speaker 4: 38 rushes for 145 yards.
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  Speaker 3: And that passing line.
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  Speaker 4: And at that point, everyone, it's just pure panic. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't think anything merits pure panic, but also this
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  Speaker 4: was a relatively underwhelming day just in terms of offensive production,
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  Speaker 4: I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very much like, let's just keep it moving.
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  Speaker 1: This is more of a spring game than the Ball
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  Speaker 1: State game was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if anybody comes out of this
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  Speaker 2: game very happy with it.
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  Speaker 1: Except for maybe Jeremiah Smith, who has a record and
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  Speaker 1: has something to show for it.
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Ennis having that touchdown catch.
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  Speaker 1: But overall, offensively, the offensive line is still certainly not
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  Speaker 1: going to be happy about this one.
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  Speaker 2: They shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 10: They.
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  Speaker 1: still a work in progress. They were without a starter.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair to mention. So you've got some
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  Speaker 1: movement going on there. And then, of course, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: you've got the second team, third team, and then second half.
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  Speaker 1: So really, judging this based on the second half is pointless.
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  Speaker 1: Judging this on the first half, as we said, going
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  Speaker 1: into this game, the only thing that you can have
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  Speaker 1: any sort of tangible conclusions on were if things weren't
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  Speaker 1: going well. And in this one, to say that they're
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  Speaker 1: going well They rushed 11 times for 30 yards in
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  Speaker 1: the second quarter.
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So, like, that's not very good. That's something you would
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  Speaker 2: expect in a matchup game. Yeah. This is not, based
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  Speaker 2: on the score, a matchup game.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and you look at the two drives back-to-back in
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  Speaker 4: the second quarter. You know, I felt like the Hail
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  Speaker 4: Mary at the end of the half really sort of
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  Speaker 4: papered over how bad that second quarter was for the offense.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Four plays, negative two yards on one drive. That was
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  Speaker 4: the one right after the Briley Pettyjohn interception. And then
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  Speaker 4: the other one, they get the ball. They start at
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  Speaker 4: their own 32. They get it out basically to midfield
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  Speaker 4: and again, lose it on down.
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  Speaker 3: Six plays, 19 yards.
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  Speaker 4: That was a really weird throw because it was, it
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  Speaker 4: felt like that was the one where he was looking
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  Speaker 4: for Jeremiah, right? And it was just kind of, Jeremiah
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  Speaker 4: was in one spot and it looked like they were
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  Speaker 4: not on the same.
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  Speaker 3: Page at all.
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  Speaker 4: It just, it just looked a little disjointed and this
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  Speaker 4: is just, this is just not a game where if
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  Speaker 4: you have a couple of disjointed drives against Illinois, against Iowa,
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  Speaker 4: against USC, Indiana, you.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Know, I kind of go.
• 15:26
  Speaker 9: Sure.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Against Kent state, you couldn't be scoring. Like if you
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: want to have one drive where it doesn't work, something
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: weird happens.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Back-to-back drives. This is a team that Ohio State should
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: have been able to name their score. Ohio State really
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: wanted to keep the pedal down. They should have been
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: able to score 120 points. And they didn't look like
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: a team that could have scored 120 points in this game.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Well, especially not with two quarterbacks, two backups there.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Right, but even the first half.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: The first half was Julian Sane, and you had back-to-back
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: drives where you didn't do anything.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Right, and it was, what, 35-0 at the half, thanks
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: to the Hail Mary.
• 16:03
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: It was a very.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: unsatisfying 59-3 cover, as they say.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Defensively, can we talk about.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, you see the rushing lead. There's the... Brendan is
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: celebrating the... I will tell you, I had a... I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: was in the right spot.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Nate Roberts and several Kent State defenders selfishly got right
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: in the way of my shot, which I would have
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: had a great shot, but I didn't.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: You know, it's the mean generation.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Like, take a picture of me. Take a picture of me.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: It's today.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Get out of the way. You didn't even touch it up. Like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Nate Roberts, you already had a touchdown. Go away. Yeah.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Let Brandon Ennis have his glory. Maybe that's why it's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: so unsatisfying. It's a selfish team job. But defensively, let's
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: continue to shout out Jason Moore.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Got the start and then got pulled and then did
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: get the start because they were not, can't say it
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: was maybe a heavier personnel package. And Three games now,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: he's been the best defensive tackle. Led the team in tackles,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: half a tackle for loss. Same as Will Smith Jr.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I think they both had five tackles and a half
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: tackle for loss.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: On one of the fourth down plays, he submarine the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: entire line. Then everybody jumped on top and stopped the play.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: And it's always interesting to see these guys who do
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: it in the final season. Not that he's completed or
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: put anything together, but these first three games, He's been
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the best defensive tackle, maybe the best defensive lineman outside
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: of Kenyatta Jackson.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And really, Tom, I would have thought at this point,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: we would be more.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Satisfied by what the defensive tackles have been doing than
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the defensive end.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there are several guys who I think we had
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: high expectations for that just haven't quite lived up to
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: that yet.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Jason Moore is the opposite.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Jason Moore was the guy that you kind of, after
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: a few years of hearing, like, maybe this is the year,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: you get to the Missouri point where it's, okay, welcome
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: to the show-me state.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: He's shown you the last couple weeks. He has been
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: one of the more pleasant surprises on this team. They
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: may have lost James Smith for a while. James Smith
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: has been okay, but not the difference maker that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: We thought he might be.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: You haven't seen a whole heck of a lot of
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Daquay Rousseau, although he was a little banged up a
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: couple weeks ago, so maybe he's working his way back
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: up to game speed. you can sort of give him
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: a little bit of the benefit of the doubt there,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: but you haven't seen it yet from him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Zion Grady missed the game today. He missed all of
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: last week or most of last week as well.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Do you think he's going to be the difference?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Zion Grady?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And I think he can be a, I think he
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: can be a factor.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's, I don't think he's going to
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: turn into the, yeah, no, he's not going to turn.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Into Caden Curry. I don't think.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And, kari wilder i was i thought maybe this is
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the game where you see kari wilder look overwhelming and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: then kari wilder was just kind of right they talked
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: about it if you want to talk about yeah i
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: mean well he.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Basically said they they got him in that the rush
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the fast rush package and they want to you know
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: keep him have him get that down and have him
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: pointed in the right direction there before they start having
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: him do more and you look around and it's like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: well You only do that a.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Couple of times, especially in this game. We're like, why
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: was it? Why wasn't he playing?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: They said, well, a lot of the third downs for
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Kent State, they were treating them basically as second downs
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and running.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: So then that's not what he's out there for. Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So then that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Would limit what they could use him for.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: And it's not Kent State limiting.
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: Him.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It's OIRC who is limiting him. And maybe, certainly he's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not going to be the difference between a great defense
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and a very good defense or a good defense. But
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: if you don't have answers as a pass rushing unit,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and the one sack today came from the defensive tackles
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: on a combined thing, You're looking for pass rush. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: should have been able to get some pass rush this game.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And they really didn't. So, like, are you lifting up?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Are you searching under every rock or not?
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Well, and the fact that they aren't playing him against
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: in a situation where they think Kent State's going to
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: run the ball, that tells me a lot about what
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: they think about.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Him in run defense. And can he be a three-down guy?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: If they don't think he can be a three-down guy
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: against Kent State, then... go ahead and set that aside
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: in terms of, well, maybe he's going to ride to
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the rescue in two weeks. If they can't trust you
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: against Kent State, they're not going to trust you against
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: the run two weeks from now in Iowa City.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And how many third loans are you expecting from Iowa
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: where they're, you know, 11 personnel and all of that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: where they're, you just may not see him much this year.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: And you never know with, you know, he certainly flashed
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: at Texas, but it was five snaps. And you saw
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: him as much as you did in Texas. That may
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: have just been the old Larry Johnson thing where when
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Chase Young was a freshman, he talked about you want
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: to put these guys in a position to succeed. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: he may have, you know, this is the ideal situation
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: for Kari Wilder. This is the perfect situation for him
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: to do and him to succeed. But there's lots of
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: situations where they don't feel like he's ready to succeed.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: So that's where you see him situationally and not.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, 100%. That's what it is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: And until they're more comfortable with him being a three-down defender,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: he's going to be.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: The one-down defender.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And sometimes not even that, based on the personnel that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: he's put up against.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Should we talk a little bit about Riley Pettyjohn?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Because Riley Pettyjohn was one of the other defenders coming
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: out of last week's game that everyone said, got to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: play him more.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: You did see Riley Pettyjohn play more.
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Once again, you know, Ryan Day talked about last week,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Riley Pettichon sort of having a nose for the ball
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and just sort of being able to get off blocks
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and make things happen.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: He would, I believe that was off a deflected pass,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that interception.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Jake Simmons deflected it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, but, you know, he had a really
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: solid game.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: He had only three tackles, but it was more impactful
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: than that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Well, he was just kind of, he was around the ball.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: They had two guys who were defensive tackles who had
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: five tackles. No one else on the defense had more
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: than three. But, I mean, I'm scrolling down and it
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: looks like the Manhattan phone book in terms of how
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: many defensive players got on the stat sheet today.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't say only three in that he,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: you know, it was like, well, he was out there
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: for 50 snaps.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: No, they played a ton of guys.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, there's Riley celebrating his interception right there. He
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: has good.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Coverage, too.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: You mean my coverage of the game? No, the linebacker.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: The defense by the defender was good.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: In fact, better coverage by you would have had the interception.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Where's that one?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, somebody in the way, Tom?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Someone was in the way. When they intercept the ball
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: on the far side of the offensive line.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: How often did the dog eat your homework? Every day?
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Not every day, but frequently. More often when we had
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a dog, but Not exclusively.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: It was, you know, he, he, I think you saw
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: enough out of him that you felt pretty good.
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't have a great sense for the linebackers.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And again, like no one got on the stat sheet
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: often enough to feel like you had a really representative
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: sample there, but you know, was how, how was Peyton Pierce?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: How's Christian Allegro? How was TJ Alford? Did you have
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: any sense for them or was it just kind of.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, the longest run of the day was nine
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: yards by Kent state. So the linebackers were fine enough.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Now, Well, if you want to know how the linebackers did,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sure our X's and O's guys this week will
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: let you know. We're at BuckeyeInsiders.com. And we did also
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: add Justin Whitlatch to that crew. So Michael Pettit, Justin Whitlatch,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Ross Fulton, breaking all of the X's and O's down
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: all week long over at BuckeyeInsiders.com.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: They'll tell you more about the linebackers. But, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: it's just you.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I think you feel Riley Pettyjohn more. And I mentioned
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: how I don't like scenes and I don't like feels.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: But it seemed like, or it feels like, you feel
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Riley Petty John more, even though there's only three tackles.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But Peyton Pierce, no glaring issues there. There was one
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: time where he didn't quite get around the block to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the wall, but somebody else was there. So judging these
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: guys too harshly right now, when there's two yards of carry, 2.1
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: yards of carry for Kent State.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Also, this is not a very good Kent State team,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: so this is what any.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what it should be.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And, you know, this is a Kent State team that
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: got shut out by South Carolina last week.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: And South Carolina is not... South Carolina is fine, but
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: they're not.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Now, this score came via an interception.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: But my point is not they're three points worse than
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: South Carolina.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: My point is this was not a team that was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Even competitive against South Carolina a week ago.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: This was just, you know, this was, I don't know
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: if it was the poor man's ball state, but I mean,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Ohio State is not shopping in the, you know, the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: fancy section of the grocery store in terms of their.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Mac games this year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: You know, they deserve full credit for the Texas game.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: And when you're scheduling these several years out, no one
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: has any idea. You know, Mac teams are so up
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: and down. It wasn't intentional that they scheduled it to
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: play bad teams, but They played a couple bad teams
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: this season.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Do I agree with this comment from Keith that the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: holes were there? I agree.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: There were some massive openings for the run game. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: they found them, again, first down.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Where you had the first-team offensive line. And Jacoby Jackson
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and Bo Jackson both found those. Maybe we'd all feel
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: better if they hit the two home runs that they
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: hit against Ball State. Because they were more consistent this
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: week than they were against Ball State.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: What they didn't hit though was to cover up their tracks.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Like they did against Ball State to pretty everything up.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Whereas this one, they were just more consistent and probably
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the same average yards for carry. Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: You would prefer this. Yeah.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: It was better than it was week one.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: And, you know, not having Phillip Daniels, you would have
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: loved it. This would have been a great week to
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: have everyone out there and have it sort of be
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: a get right game. But if you're not going to
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: have him, this is a good one to not have
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: him because you didn't lose anything by not having him
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: We do have a super chat from Jordan Kapler. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: want to get to you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Mind if I ask your general thoughts on Day's comment
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: of not being in a joking mood? Seems fitting after
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: a game like this, albeit a blowout.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Thanks, Tom. Listen, anything I can do to
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: make your day better, Jordan, you're welcome.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jordan. No, he wasn't in here gropey, but
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: he also knew that this was.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: A fun play that people wanted to talk about so
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: yeah he had to like make sure that people knew
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: like i'm not happy but this is a fun thing
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that we can talk about you might see me smile
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: but also everything that we've been talking about everything that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: everybody else has been talking about the coaches are going
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: to be talking about it wasn't good enough running the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: ball and there's still some questions and concerns i'd say
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: about the passing game as well and yet you know
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: they were however many seconds minutes away from winning at
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: texas last week again so They lost that game, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: this is not a doom or gloom.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: This is not the end of the season. This is not, boy,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: are they even going to make a bowl game? Now,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: are they going to make the playoffs? We don't know that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: We said that before the season. This is a tough schedule.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: There could be three losses, and the three wins that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: aren't the losses against the decent teams are going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: have to be really elite. I have no other really
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: outstanding comment about they.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Not being in a joking mood other than He knows
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: they've got work to do.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Well, it's just, this is a game where you look
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: at the score and you kind of just, the instinctive
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: reaction is, well, they killed them.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Must have been a great game.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: And I don't think anyone who, I don't think any
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Ohio State fan who pays reasonably close attention looked at
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: this game and thought, you know, well, they've really shown
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that they've fixed the issues. And, you know, as we
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: said on the pregame show, I don't think there was
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: anything they could do that would have made me say, okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: problem solved. No more concerns on fill-in-the-blank product. Because the
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: gap between the team you're playing this week and the
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: team you're playing next week is pretty substantial. And then
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: it's even bigger to the team you're playing the following week.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And then you got Indiana coming up a couple weeks
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: after that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: And, you know, this is... This is, you know, they
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: did kind of what they needed to do.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You know, you got through this week. They got through
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: reasonably healthy. You really love, you know, Philip Daniels and
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Zion Grady sound like they are not long-term issues.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Did he say anything about James Smith? I don't think
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: I heard.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: No.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't hear anything about that. It didn't look great.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It looked like an arm injury, which, you know, that,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you know, I.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I think back to Will Kaczmarek, who broke his arm
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: against Oregon in 2024 and then was out for like
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: six weeks, maybe.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, so you're maybe.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: this is complete speculation, but you're maybe looking at, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: if it's sort of a similar thing and we don't know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: but if it is, then you're looking at.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: The USC game for Halloween, the Oregon the week after that.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: You got a lot of games that are, decent opponents
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: or better decent or better opponents between now and then
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: and that is not a position where you've seen you
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: know where anyone has really popped and excelled so that's
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: not you know that's not great.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: No and one other thing on the lack of a
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: pass rush some of this is because they're playing three
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: defensive tackles yep and you're just you're not going to
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: get a james smith or edward houston is basically playing
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: defensive end in this because of the the package that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: they've got out there and what they want to do
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and stopping the run and all of that, which is fine.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And them not getting to.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: The quarterback was not why they only scored 59 points
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: or three. And really, when you look at that Texas game,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you're like, they're basically out of defensive ends. Because it
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't until the end of the game when Bo Atkinson,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: they finally threw him out there just because they needed somebody.
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: So, yeah, the lack of defensive ends at this point is,
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: probably a concern? I don't think it's probably a concern.
• 30:59
  Speaker 12: I think, and if Zion Grady's back, that certainly is
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: an improvement. He at least was earlier in the rotation,
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: but it's not, it's not great. It's really not a
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: great situation right now on the defensive line. It just
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: feels like they are, you know, they lost a lot
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: from last year and there's been, there's spots where at safety,
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: I think they've largely made up.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: For the loss of Caleb Dallas.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: You don't ever replace Caleb Dallas, but I feel like
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: they have good enough pieces back there that you're feeling
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: pretty good about life.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Linebacker, better, you know, not, probably not as good as safety,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: but you know, okay.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Defensive line just feels like they don't have a guy
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: who's a difference maker this year, like a Caden Curry was,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: like a Caden McDonald was last year.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And yeah, Jackson's been very good.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: He's been a better version of last year's Jackson, but
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: they're just, There isn't that other guy right now.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where's the rest of it?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: To the Earl Little point, the people who wanted him
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to be Caleb Downs.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Earl Little comes off the field on third and longs.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Which is weird to me. I don't love that. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: don't think you need to pull him off the field.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: And I know they like.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Simeon Caldwell a lot, but I think there's a reason
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Earl Little is ahead of Simeon Caldwell and Leroy Roker on.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: The depth chart.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: So then when you're taking him off the field and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: putting one of those guys or both of those guys
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: on the field in his place, I kind of wonder
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: what the thinking is there.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Feels like he would absolutely give you what you're looking,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: what you're going to get from Simeon Caldwell plus experience.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Just the ability, the heads up that you've done this before.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And I know we've all talked about Simeon Caldwell and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: having a bright future. It's just interesting to think, like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you're pulling a starting secondary guy off of the field
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: or third and long when your secondary is at its
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: most crucial. But it kind of also tells you maybe
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: how they feel about his coverage skills.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it just is a little weird
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, you trust him out there in other
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: situations where he's being asked to cover. And it hasn't
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: really been a big issue that I can remember this year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: It's just very odd to me.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And it's odd that there's odd things on both sides
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: of the ball.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Where are they?
• 33:26
  Speaker 13: Why?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And it's just still in September. Last time I checked.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: But boy, October is going to get here quickly.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: It is going to get here quickly. So we have
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: a couple questions. We can hit a couple of those.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: We have some sound interviews with some players after the game.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: We can share with you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: And we want to let you hear from Michael Pettit,
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: one of our scheme guys as well. So we've got
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff still coming up on those fronts.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: So let's start with a question here from Ivan. It says,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: we don't get sacks because of the coaches and scheme.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Teams without any talent are able to scheme up sacks.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Our stubborn coaching staff does the same thing every year. And,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you know, week one, Matt Patricia.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Was calling a bunch of stunts and twists up front.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Michael Pettit, one of our scheme guys, who you're going
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: to hear from a little later on in the show,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: did a whole show about it. you didn't see as
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: much of that last week. I, I wasn't really looking
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: for it. And I'm my standard disclaimer that I'm looking
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: through a camera lens at like one thing. So I
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: don't really have a good sense for how much they're
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: starting and twisting up for.
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: Did you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't see much of that. Not as
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: much of that. Yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: So, and, and so I may be wrong. You've seen
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: it in week one. So it's in the toolbox.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: You would think maybe that's something that comes out a
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: little bit later in the season, and this might have
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: been a don't use.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: It against them, but they didn't use it against Texas.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't like they were generating a ton of
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: pressure on Texas. Texas, the game plan felt like it was, okay,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: just keep it simple and don't let Arch beat you
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: with his legs. Fence him in, make him read the defense.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: So I kind of get why you didn't use it there.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: And this may be a you didn't use it because
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: you didn't need it this week. And you don't want
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: to put too much on film before.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Illinois or Iowa or whoever.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't, you know, they're not just winning on
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: their own, which you would kind of want to see in.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: A game like this.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And now that they've got four sacks on the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: season as a team.
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: One against Ball State, two against Texas, and now one
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: against Kent State.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: And hello to Doreen.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Doreen is at his facts.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Zillebuck Week, the.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Well, like the third most wonderful week of the year.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Right, but it is the greatest turtle-based trophy rivalry game
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: in Ohio State football.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Spear-ish.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That's probably, that's arguably true.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Arguably true.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And, you know, you guys share your thoughts. Is it
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the best turtle-based trophy that Ohio State plays for? Jordan
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Superchat says, thanks, Tony, for nothing.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Ha, you fool. Man, he I bet at the start
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: of this, you're like, man, that's good. Oh, the disappointment. Crushing,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: crushing disappointment.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: The safety position to me has been really solid all year.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've had questions about almost every position group
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: at some time. The safeties have been not perfect, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: pretty good.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, not many complaints, but would we be saying
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that if a couple of passes have been completed downfield?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Against Texas. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But over like Jalen McClain's been playing well.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: The interesting thing about the Hail Mary, because we were
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: talking in the press box and Tim May was like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you know, when have you ever seen Ohio State complete
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a Hail Mary?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Like Tim, you've never seen one. It's never happened.
• 36:49
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And Braxton Miller to Devin Smith is not a Hail Mary.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: No.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It was just a pass to a guy down in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the end zone. So, and it was no different than
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Troy Smith to Brian Robiskey.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. one of those things.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: But it annoys me that you own, you never, they
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: never do that against teams that are, the game is
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: still like in doubt or the fact that they were
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: trying to score there and then it would go to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Hail Mary.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: You don't even see Ohio State throw them. Right.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: And the only reason you did here is because it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Kent State and they're up 28-0 and pretty decent chance
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you might score on a Hail Mary game. I just
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: wish we'd see that more. That's why I say, like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: more teams. I don't know how many teams have happened.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where you say that and
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: then Stetson Bennett gets his arm snapped or whatever it
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: was because it's not, you know, it's not just a
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: free shot necessarily, but I liked the way Ryan Day
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: managed the end of the half. He's calling timeouts with
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Kent State having the bowl in the red zone. He's
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: calling timeouts to try and maintain... some clocks so that
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: they can, I think they had burned one earlier.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So they only had two. So they, you know, he
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: let them, you know, he only could stop it twice.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: So he ended up with 25 seconds or 20 seconds,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: whatever it was, 30 seconds. And they got a.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Little help on a stupid penalty because man, Kent state
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: was majoring in stupid penalties today. but I thought that
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: was a great use of the reps, a great use of,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: you know, cause it's one of those things where it's,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: you know, you can't simulate game action. You cannot, you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: and that's something coaches will talk about all the time.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: We do our best to simulate putting the kicker in
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: a pressure situation, putting the offense in a pressure situation.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: That was a chance to, you know, relatively low stakes,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: but a chance to under live fire, get the ball.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I'd have to go down the field and, I was
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: thinking they were going to try and set up for
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: a field goal and they got to about the 49
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: yard line.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So it was too long for a field goal. So
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: they take the Hail Mary shot, but great.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: That's a great use of those reps. And that time
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: where you didn't just kneel it out and take it
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: to the locker room because you easily could have done that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: But as a coach, the most valuable thing you have
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: to offer players is reps.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Because it's a chance it's experience. It's a chance to have,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you know, you, Everything you're doing, you're putting on tape
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and then you can teach off of that and you're
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: giving them experience.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Now, Julian saying has a successful drive where it was
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: not just a gong show at the end of Texas.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: It was now you've done that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: You've had a successful drive in a, you know, 30
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: second drill kind of situation.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: So, okay.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: It's going to be harder against whoever the next team you.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Try and do that against is because it's not going
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: to be Kent state, but it's.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Going to be okay. You did it before. Now you
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: have something successful to sort of point that and go, okay.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: more of this.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Though I still don't know why you need a tight
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: end out there. Anyway.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: It's, you know, there's like on the old VHS things
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: where it was like the Interpol thing at the beginning.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: It's covered under that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: It has to be out there.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something about the Geneva Convention. I don't know.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not an international diplomat.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Talking about the defense and, you know, sometimes there's reasons
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: why guys aren't out there and it's not immediately obvious
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: to people watching at home. That is one of the
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: reasons that we have assembled the, I don't want to
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: say the super friends, but it's not not the super friend.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: World's greatest.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: World's greatest team of scheme insiders. You're hearing it more
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: and more.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Ross Fulton, Michael Pettit, Justin Whitlatch, we just added this
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: week to our team because we've gotten phenomenal feedback on
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: the scheme coverage that we've done over the last few
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: weeks and are continuing to do and going to be
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: continuing to do all season long. I want to let
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you hear right now from Michael Pettit. He is one
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: of our scheme guys. And this is, you know, during
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: the week, he'll have like a film breakdown. And he
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: kind of focuses on the defense a lot. He kind
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: of just shared three thoughts on, you know, things that
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: he noticed watching the game. And we'll have a much
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: more detailed breakdown with him later on in the week.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: But here's Michael Pettit with three quick thoughts on the game.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And then we'll come back right after that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone. Michael Pettit, BuckeyeInsiders.com.
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: I'm here to just give my three immediate postgame takeaways
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: after the Cat State game.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Of course, given the level of competition, there's not much
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: to draw from.
• 41:21
  Speaker 10: Most of my takeaways are going to be a little critical,
• 41:27
  Speaker 10: but I will sneak in a good one. First and foremost,
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: I'm not really understanding why Ryan Day has been banging
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: his head against the wall for two or three years
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: with all this heavy tight end usage.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: More specifically, in.
• 41:46
  Speaker 10: The low red zone and in short yardage, when he
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: defaults to these like goal line packages where you're in
• 41:52
  Speaker 10: 23 personnel, so two running backs, three tight ends, I
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: don't know why that's still happening because it's never really
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: successful against good teams. And even if it is successful
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: against Kent State, that doesn't mean anything. And frankly, it
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: wasn't always successful against Kent State today. So I still
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: think the short yardage play calling remains a concern and
• 42:11
  Speaker 10: they need to get a little more creative there.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Second, um, I'm not really.
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: Sure what the plan is on defense going forward either.
• 42:23
  Speaker 10: It was a very vanilla game plan today. And I
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: don't think that, you know, I would have expected this
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: to be more of an opportunity to call some different
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: blitzes or simulated pressures or just anything to kind of
• 42:41
  Speaker 10: change the picture of posts now. I'll be interested to
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: look at the film after the fact to see if
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: there was more stunting up front than I realized.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: It was a very vanilla.
• 42:49
  Speaker 10: Game plan, and I will say I can tell that
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: they were kind of still trying to figure out... I
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: think they're still trying to figure out the best personnel
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: on defense. You know, it doesn't help to have Zion
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: Grady out. James Smith might be out for a while now, too.
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: But they were rotating in the back seven and up front.
• 43:10
  Speaker 10: I'm still not really sure... there is a, you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 10: I don't think there's a true packing order on the
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: defense at this point, and particularly up front. My final
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: takeaway that I want to discuss, and, you know, this
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: one is surprising. This is going to be a good takeaway,
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: but Jason Moore's name was called a lot today, and again,
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: it's Kent State, so what he did today does not
• 43:37
  Speaker 10: mean that much to me, but He played really well
• 43:41
  Speaker 10: against Texas, too. He was probably the best defensive tackle
• 43:45
  Speaker 10: on the field against Texas. And I showed plenty of
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: plays he made on our insider board last week. And
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: so to see him have another great game this week
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: was really encouraging. If he can continue that into Big
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: Ten play, I think we may have finally found something
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: to be really excited about in the defensive line room
• 44:04
  Speaker 10: because so far, Through two games, his play has been very,
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: excuse me, through three games now, his play has been
• 44:11
  Speaker 10: very promising. So that's all I have for today. Not
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: much to take away given the competition, but we'll move
• 44:16
  Speaker 10: on to the next one.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: That Michael Pettit, one of our scheming insiders, always loved
• 44:22
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• 44:24
  Speaker 3: He and Ross and now Justin as well. They have
• 44:27
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• 44:31
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• 44:33
  Speaker 4: me up the ledge or, you know, how, you know,
• 44:35
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• 44:37
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• 44:40
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• 44:41
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• 44:44
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• 44:46
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• 44:47
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• 44:48
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• 44:49
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• 44:54
  Speaker 4: is in our comments. I see Keith in the comments.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: He is one of our, uh, one of our valued
• 44:59
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• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Is a- The most valued.
• 45:01
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• 45:06
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• 45:06
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• 45:09
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• 45:09
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• 45:11
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• 45:13
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• 45:17
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• 45:19
  Speaker 1: As you say, Tom, if you want to become a
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: smarter Ohio State football guy.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Football guy. That's the way to do it.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those guys are they they are there to make
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: you a smarter football fan. And here is one from Keith.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: And I think this is a pretty smart comment. Sincere
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Johnson is not physically ready, but the kid is a
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: missile out there going to be awesome as early as
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: next year. He was out there earlier than I thought
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: he might be, which, you know, that was because it
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: was like might have been second quarter was certainly like
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: early third quarter. You saw him a bunch. And you
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: didn't just see him out there. You saw him around
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: the ball making plays.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He made one tackle, flew through there. I think chose
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the wrong gap on another one. But also, I think
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Jameer Perez batted a ball up near that Sincere could
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: have brought and taken it in. And then it went
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: to a nice Glendville, to Glendville.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: It's a tough one to touch down there.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: First, maybe since, what, Troy Smith and Ted Yin?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, might be, yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Or Dale Jones, too.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there was a Glenville wide receiver
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: at that point. And, you know, this is a don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: overreact to anything. Like Florida State up 14-3 on Bama
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: right now. Michigan is struggling with UTEP right now. Yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: it's 24-14.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, are they now up?
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: You know, you look at.
• 46:34
  Speaker 16: Whatever your team is and go, they don't look phenomenal
• 46:35
  Speaker 16: this year.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, USC 20, Rutgers 14. Rutgers is driving. Rutgers is
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: so bad this year. Rutgers is so, so bad. They
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: lost to UMass. They lost. Who did they play last week?
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: They played someone else last week and lost to someone
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: else last week.
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: I mean, it was.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: You can say that anyway.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: It is very easy to go to look at, you know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: whatever your team is and say they are so bad
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: this week.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Kentucky 21, Texas A & M 7.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: In college station right now you just it's college football
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: this is what's fun about college football yeah it's you
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: know it's it's not fun when it's your team right
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: but when it's everyone else's.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Team it's like can you believe i.
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: Thought we were gonna bully other people can okay friends
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: take one minute pray to the deity of your choice
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: and thank him or her for not making you a
• 47:37
  Speaker 11: North Carolina.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: State football fan. Holy Moses. If you have not seen
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: that whole mess, we're not done yet.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: When we're done, treat yourself to the end of the
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: North Carolina State Vanderbilt.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Holy pants.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Great win for future star Jared Curtis and his first
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: start for Vanderbilt.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, that was just staggering. All right, so we
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: have a couple more press.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Conferences we want to let you hear from. Jeremiah Smith,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: you're going to get to hear from. Ryan Day, you're
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: going to get to hear from. Let's start with Jeremiah.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Ryan Day didn't set any records today. He was only
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: now the third winningest coach. Oh, is the third a record, Tony?
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Sounds like that second loser.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Tell me when you pass Woody Hayes, sir. But yeah,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: the third winningest coach. Congratulations to Ryan Day on becoming
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: the third winningest coach. It meant so much to him
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: that he was in a bad mood. for the post-game show,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: so there you go. I'm not the only one sort
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: of downplaying that, but Jeremiah Smith, record breaker, breaks Michael
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Jenkins' career receiving record.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Would you have preferred Ryan Day coming in and saying,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: number three, and then it's three.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Do the forks up thing that Arizona State did.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, all right.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Let's just hear real quick from Jeremiah Smith, because, yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: this is someone who has earned a couple minutes of
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: your time.
• 48:59
  Speaker 15: Instead of come through this place chris carter jackson i
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: mean you go down the line what does it mean
• 49:05
  Speaker 15: to you to be the career record holder now and
• 49:10
  Speaker 15: uh what did you think of the message that michael
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: did you see the message michael jenkins had?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I couldn't hear it, so no.
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: I'll probably have to go on Twitter or Instagram to
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: see what it was saying. But it means a lot.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: Put a lot of hard work into it. Because they
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: said 33 games. So I'm blessed. But I got two
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: more to get. Chris Alave, touchdown record, and Emeka Ibuka,
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: the reception.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: JJ, we'll come here on the right. You came here
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: with a lot of, obviously, fanfare and a lot of hype.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: When you got here, did you expect this was the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: kind of day you were going to have eventually?
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Breaking records like this?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Was that your expectation? Is that what you always were pursuing?
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: I don't think it's my expectations. I just wanted to
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: come in as a freshman and just make plays, really.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: I don't really think too much about records and stuff
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: like that. But the opportunity presented itself and I just
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: took full advantage of it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Got Riley Pettijohn in the back left and we've got
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Bill here on the left here, JJ.
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: You're heading into Big Ten play. You've got two Opponents
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: that you're clearly much better than in the Texas game.
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: Where do you think you are as a team? Are
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: you where you think you should be as a team?
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: Are you behind, ahead?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: What do you think? I think pretty good where we are.
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, we got a long way to go, obviously.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: It was only the third week of the season. Always
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: room for improvement for myself. It's the offense as a
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: whole team, really. So just got to get back to
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: the to practice, get back to the basics, and just
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: get back to work on Tuesday and just continue to
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: get better week in and week out.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: We'll have Stephon here on the right.
• 50:42
  Speaker 17: Coach J was talking about the intensity he wanted to
• 50:44
  Speaker 17: see from the team this week after what happened last week.
• 50:46
  Speaker 17: I guess for you personally, obviously the numbers were impressive
• 50:49
  Speaker 17: at Texas, but how much have you kind of been
• 50:51
  Speaker 17: motivated by the final score and moving forward from that?
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the intensity was definitely high this week in practice,
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: especially after the L that we had up there in Austin.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: For myself personally, I just wanted to get back to
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: work on Tuesday, get that loss out of me, especially today, Saturday,
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: get that loss out of our system, just beat on
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: somebody else and be physical.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Back to the left.
• 51:17
  Speaker 13: Coach talked about guys being happy for each other, celebrating
• 51:20
  Speaker 13: each other, the big.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Hail Mary for Brandon, the long run for Chris. What
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: was that like?
• 51:27
  Speaker 13: What's it like for you in that situation? Because you
• 51:29
  Speaker 13: were on the field for the first one. Just to
• 51:31
  Speaker 13: see all that happen and celebrate. Yeah, I'm happy for
• 51:34
  Speaker 13: my guys, Brandon and Chris. Brandon scored his first touchdown
• 51:37
  Speaker 13: this season. Chris, ADR touchdown. I'm always supporting the guys
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: in my room and everybody on the team.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a leader. I'm a captain on the team.
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: So I always have to encourage the young guys and
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: get people going when they don't want to feel pushed
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: and stuff like that.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: So, yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: To me.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah, you kind of asked this a little bit. I
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: wanted to follow up.
• 51:57
  Speaker 16: I think you came to this place, Ohio State University,
• 52:00
  Speaker 16: and you've left your mark like you have.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I know you want to leave an even bigger mark,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: but what does that mean to you?
• 52:05
  Speaker 16: I mean, the list of everybody who's played wide receiver here,
• 52:09
  Speaker 16: you've caught more yards than anybody, and you still got another,
• 52:12
  Speaker 16: you know, most of the season to go.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, what does that mean to you in terms
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: of being on that list at the top of it? Well,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I'm blessed, man.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: I can't put it to words. My coach, they always say,
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: lead a jersey better than he found it, and that's
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: what I'm trying to do. Always trying to push young
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: guys to go, encourage them to get on my level.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: Guys on the team, even guys that's my age, that's
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: probably older than me as well, I'm always trying to
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: push them as well to be better. So that's what
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: I'm here to do.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Stephon?
• 52:42
  Speaker 17: You talked at Big Ten Media Days about this being
• 52:44
  Speaker 17: your last season at Ohio State. I mean, we see
• 52:46
  Speaker 17: Heisman pose early on.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: We see the record-breaking performance today.
• 52:49
  Speaker 17: I guess how motivated are you to, you know, whether
• 52:52
  Speaker 17: it be prove something or just kind of leave a
• 52:54
  Speaker 17: legacy in this season here?
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just leave a legacy. I mean, that's been the
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: biggest emphasis this season, this offseason, especially from Coach Day.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: Leave the jersey better than you found it. So that's
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: exactly what I'm trying to do.
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: Steve.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: JJ, are you watching college football on Friday nights?
• 53:12
  Speaker 11: Always.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: What have been your thoughts of what you've seen from Malachi, Tony?
• 53:17
  Speaker 18: Does it feel like you two are going at it
• 53:19
  Speaker 18: more Friday nights than you on Saturdays?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: Malachi is going off. Week in and week out, a
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: little friendly competition. I mean, I see him go off,
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: so I'm trying to have a good game as well.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, just bro from Dade County, bro from South Florida,
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: so I was trying to have a little competition here
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: and there.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Finish up with Bree on the left.
• 53:38
  Speaker 18: You guys had like a little huddle from the third quarter,
• 53:40
  Speaker 18: after the third quarter going to the fourth.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Just what was said in there?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: He said again, I'm sorry.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, going into the fourth quarter. Oh, the circle.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: Oh. Oh, that's just something that, you know, we all
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: came up with that we was going to do in
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. In the third, going into the fourth quarter,
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: I'll come up, play this little song that we have,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: you know, just whoever on the field on that time, offensive, defense,
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: you know, just encouraging guys to keep going and get
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: a stop, make a play, things like that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: All right. Thanks, Jeremiah.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: So that's Jeremiah Smith.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I wanted to talk real quickly about two of the
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: young wide receivers because I Brock Boyd, you saw, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: you sort of started to see the Brock Boyd that
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: has been promised. Incredible sort of tippy toes catch along
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: the sideline. You might have to steal Chris Sanders' old nickname,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: tippy toes, with that catch along the sideline.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: But Chris Henry Jr., what was the old line about
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Chris Carter? All he does is catch touchdowns. How many
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: career catches does Chris Henry Jr.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Have? That is two now.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: How many touchdowns does Chris Henry Jr.
• 54:48
  Speaker 14: Have?
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Also two.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Also two, yes. So one catch, 75 yards, one touchdown. It's,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: you know, you would obviously love to see him get
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: involved more. You would assume, as you're seeing these guys
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: take on, you know, they're playing more and more.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: They're playing early. And, you know, it was, I was
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: very happy for Brandon Innes.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Brandon Innes had a very nice day, including that Hail
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Mary right before halftime, but a quiet day for Devin McEwen,
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: but it sure feels like Brock Boyd and Chris Henry Jr.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Are going to just sort.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Of, it's not going to be overnight, but it just
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: feels like they're sort of inching their way towards more
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: playing time. Because there's, Carnell Tate is not walking through
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: that door this year. And you need someone who's going
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: to make plays other than Jeremiah Smith.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: What happens when Kyle Parker comes back?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just a theoretical conversation.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: He has to play his way into the lineup. Brock
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Boyd and Chris Henry Jr. have playing.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: When they get the ball thrown to them, aside from
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the first couple of drops for Chris Henry Jr.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: In the first game, they do stuff with them. Brock Boyd,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: he went.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: To him in double coverage, led to an interception, a
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: little deep shot. But I'm all for seeing more from
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: those two guys getting targeted because clearly they are advanced.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: For troop freshmen.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: So if you are looking for offensive help and your
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback is looking for a more well-rounded game.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You've got guys besides Jeremiah Smith, I would, I believe.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: So go ahead and use them.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: So last thing we want to do before we wrap
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: things up, want to let you hear from Ohio State
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: head coach Ryan Day. His press conference had some interesting
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: things to say. We mentioned earlier talking about the Jameer
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Perez touchdown and the fact that, you know, he was
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: not very happy. He referenced the fact he was not
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: very happy, which For a game that you win 59-3,
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: that is a luxury to be able to not be
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: too happy after a 59-3 win. But here you go.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Let you hear a little bit from Ohio State head
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: coach Ryan Day.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: We'll start with Bill on the left.
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: Ryan, other than getting the bad taste out of your mouth,
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: in a game this lopsided, what do you really get
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: out of this game?
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Well, I think you're looking for a response out of
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: a group of guys, um, coming off of last week,
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: which I thought we did. And, um, regardless of the opponent,
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: you want, you know, clean execution, um, on offense and
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: you want a bunch of running and hitting on defense and, um,
• 57:26
  Speaker 9: energy and passion and, you know, violence running around, which.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I thought we did.
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: And, um, and even just at the end of the half,
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: you know, we, we stuttered or stumbled around those two
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: drives in the red zone and then in the short yardage,
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: but then, they kept fighting, and then we get the
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: Hail Mary pass. So just that part of it, to me,
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: was encouraging. Like you said, there's issues that are going
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: to get on the film. We're going to get on
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: the film tomorrow and get fixed. But I also think
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: maybe for some of the younger players, another opportunity to
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: get on the field and build some confidence going into
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: conference play.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: We'll go to Steven on the right.
• 58:00
  Speaker 18: Ryan, speaking of younger players, we saw Legend back at
• 58:03
  Speaker 18: kick return today, but it didn't seem like he was
• 58:05
  Speaker 18: maybe– As a part of the offense, is there anything
• 58:07
  Speaker 18: there other than just.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe trying to get Bogo on?
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: No, he tweaked his ankle early, and hopefully we'll get
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: him back this week. We'll get him evaluated and see.
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: He was trying to get back in there, but wasn't cleared.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Joey on the left.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: Ryan, you guys had a couple times where you had
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: that package with the sixth offensive lineman, not just in
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: the red zone, but when Julian had a play auction
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: off it.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: What does that give you?
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: What did you like or didn't like out of it?
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you see different teams do it. is a little
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: bit of a different change up it's a bigger body
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: at the Y position and you know every time you
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: put a personnel grouping in the game there's a give
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: and take in it all but you know Jake has
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: been practicing well and we thought that he gave us
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: some strength in there we'll see where the package goes
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: from here moving forward we'll evaluate it and see if
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: it fits in the upcoming weeks but it does give
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: us a different grouping with A little bit of strength
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: there in the sea gap.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Austin on the right.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Ryan, is that still called the bison? It is called
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: the bison.
• 59:10
  Speaker 14: Yeah yeah I don't know that we see you grab
• 59:13
  Speaker 14: everybody and huddle up between the third and fourth quarter
• 59:15
  Speaker 14: the way that you guys did this afternoon what was
• 59:18
  Speaker 14: if you can share some of that message or at
• 59:19
  Speaker 14: least what you were trying to get accomplished.
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: There Yeah, we know how important that these fourth quarters
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: are going to be. And it doesn't matter what the
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: score is. It doesn't matter what the game is or
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: who the opponent is. And, you know, we just have
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: to make sure that everybody rebites, refocuses and finishes in
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: the fourth quarter. Now, in this situation, we had the
• 59:38
  Speaker 9: backups in there, but that's that doesn't matter. You know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: we want everybody up together, recognizing where we're at and
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: everybody looking each other in the eye. You understand what's
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: at stake. and know that like we're playing for each
• 59:50
  Speaker 9: other and that that's something I'm going to continue to
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: hammer with these guys because it's, it's about the team.
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: It's about our tribe. It's about us coming together, playing
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: for each other. And, and what, what do you want
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 9: to sacrifice for your teammate? I know that sounds like coach,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: you know, talking cliche, but it is more important to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: me now than ever. And, and so that's an opportunity
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: for us to do that, uh, in a big moment. Um,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: we try to find as many ways as we can to, um,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: you know, emphasize how important that is. And that's something
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: that we've talked about that we want to make sure
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: we're doing to make sure you're looking each other, looking,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: you know, coaches in the eye, looking at the players
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: in the eye, offense, defense, come together as one to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: go finish games.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Cam on the left.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: Ryan, it seemed like early, it was, you were pretty
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: adamant to get other guys to ball, not Jeremiah, not
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: just Jeremiah.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Brandon got a catch early, Devin got a catch.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: I'm curious just your thoughts on how you thought Julian
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: spread the ball around today when you had a variety
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: of receivers in the game.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Like you said, you know, A lot of the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: stuff the week before, you know, kind of started with
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 9: Jeremiah and then went from there. This was a little
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: bit more of a just full field progression game. And,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 9: you know, I thought overall the ball came out on time.
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  Speaker 9: There's still some things in there we're going to look
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  Speaker 9: at that we got to get better from. Eyes, feet, timing.
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  Speaker 9: So I thought overall it was solid. It was good
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  Speaker 9: to get other guys involved. You know, you saw, you know,
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  Speaker 9: Brandon had four catches. And I guess Brock had seven.
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  Speaker 9: Good to see Chris get that ball and take off.
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  Speaker 9: I think that'll build on his confidence as well.
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  Speaker 2: Bill on the right.
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  Speaker 14: Ryan, it seemed like Kari Wilder played like two or
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  Speaker 14: three snaps early and then didn't get on the field
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  Speaker 14: again until late in the fourth quarter. And I think
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  Speaker 14: a lot of people just anticipated he might be featured
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  Speaker 14: a little more in this game.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything going on with him?
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  Speaker 2: No, no.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, for the third down packages, we feel like
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  Speaker 9: he's a really that's a really good option for him
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  Speaker 9: to get as we get into conference play and some
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  Speaker 9: of the more matchup games. Right now, that's like where
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  Speaker 9: his first step is, you know, get in the packages,
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  Speaker 9: third down, go get the quarterback, put that in and
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  Speaker 9: really allow him to own that right now. Then when
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  Speaker 9: we started getting into some of the third down stuff
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  Speaker 9: against this opponent, a lot of times on third down,
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  Speaker 9: they were almost playing it like second where they were
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  Speaker 9: kind of running it. So we didn't find ourselves in
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  Speaker 9: some of that packaging. But then later in the game,
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  Speaker 9: you know, he was able to play on first and
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  Speaker 9: second down just based on what was going in on
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  Speaker 9: first and second down. So To answer your question, he's
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  Speaker 9: sort of a starter in some of that third down stuff,
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  Speaker 9: but a backup in the other packages. So that's why
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  Speaker 9: it sort of looked the way it did.
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  Speaker 3: We've got time for three more guys.
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  Speaker 2: Spencer?
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  Speaker 13: Ryan, with what you saw through two weeks and then
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  Speaker 13: now just coming off the field now, you challenged the
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  Speaker 13: tight ends at the.
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  Speaker 3: Beginning of training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Are you getting what you wanted out of those guys
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  Speaker 2: right now?
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  Speaker 9: And where do you feel like that 12 personnel is
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  Speaker 9: right now when it's not Jake but two tight ends? Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I think it's solid, but I can't sit here and
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  Speaker 9: tell you that anything is exactly where we want it
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  Speaker 9: right now. So we'll keep adding on it. We'll use
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  Speaker 9: this game and get on the film and evaluate it.
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  Speaker 9: We evaluated last week's game and made some decisions and
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  Speaker 9: looked at different groupings. We'll look at this film and
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  Speaker 9: see how these guys grade out and continue to build
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  Speaker 9: from there.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to need them all.
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  Speaker 9: It's a long season. Each guy brings a different skill
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  Speaker 9: set to the table. And we have to do a
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  Speaker 9: good job as coaches, putting them in those situations, you know,
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  Speaker 9: as we've talked about before.
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  Speaker 2: Go to Rob on the left.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah. Ryan Jeremiah set the career yardage record. Um, you've
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  Speaker 15: had some great ones here. How to stay through the
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  Speaker 15: history is that great ones put you on the spot.
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  Speaker 15: Where do you rank him?
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  Speaker 9: Boy, it's, it's hard to put, um, anybody, you know,
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  Speaker 9: above him.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 9: It's hard. Um, 33 games to break the all time
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  Speaker 9: leading receiving record at Ohio state. Um, I think that
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  Speaker 9: speaks more than anything to just him, his mindset, his discipline,
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  Speaker 9: what he does every day. I told the team, we
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  Speaker 9: celebrated him, gave him the game ball. And again, he's
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  Speaker 9: a great example for everybody. All those young receivers and
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  Speaker 9: just the way he works every day. He's somebody that
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  Speaker 9: shows up and just loves to compete, loves the big moments,
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  Speaker 9: but it's because of how hard he trains, how serious
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  Speaker 9: he is. He loves his teammates.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I know his teammates appreciate who he is,
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  Speaker 9: and certainly we do as coaches. And, you know, as fans,
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  Speaker 9: I think they do, but I hope they all recognize
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  Speaker 9: just not only what you see on the field, but
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  Speaker 9: who he is as a person, how much he loves
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  Speaker 9: Ohio State and this program.
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  Speaker 2: We'll finish with Tim May.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, Ryan, how hard will it be to live with
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  Speaker 16: Jameer Perez going forward? I mean, the touchdown, et cetera.
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  Speaker 16: I mean, the way he played, his presence. And do
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  Speaker 16: you see him– contributing more and more as this season
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  Speaker 16: goes along.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not really in a joking mood right now,
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  Speaker 9: but is he the heaviest guy to ever score a
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  Speaker 9: touchdown in Ohio State history? He might be, right?
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  Speaker 2: He might be.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible ball security, but you can see the sideline.
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  Speaker 9: And to me, that's what I'm looking for is the
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  Speaker 9: whole sideline, just going out on the field and celebrating
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  Speaker 9: as a team. I think you saw some of that today.
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  Speaker 9: We have to do that. We have to celebrate as brothers.
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  Speaker 9: And when you get excited.
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  Speaker 9: For someone else's accomplishments almost more than yourself, then we
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  Speaker 9: have something going. And to me, that was most important there.
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  Speaker 9: But even on that play, Braxton Rambert came up and really,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, had a great hit on the quarterback. It
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  Speaker 9: was kind of a broken play, but to see those
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  Speaker 9: guys celebrating with each other after that, that's the key.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, you know, we'll have to get JJ under
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  Speaker 9: control after this one. He'll be happy. I don't know
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  Speaker 9: what the dance was in the end zone too, so
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  Speaker 9: we'll have to get that organized.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, Coach. Yeah, you got it. As we get some
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  Speaker 2: players in here, just a reminder for your post-game stories, Coach.