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- 0:00Speaker 1: Children of the Eighties is filmed before a live studio audience.
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- 0:35Speaker 1: Okay, what are you doing? Are you rappy?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Yes, I'm the Beastie boys.
- 0:41Speaker 1: You had so much enthusiasm coming in there. I had
- 0:45Speaker 1: to turn your mic down a.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Little bit because I'm back home.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I know you energized from it. Unsha, the weather is
- 0:52Speaker 1: nice and chilly.
- 0:54Speaker 2: It is cold, just like it should be around Thanksgiving.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Yep.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Del Griffith would agree.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So we got some feedback on last week's episode, which
- 1:06Speaker 1: was about planes, trains and automobiles and iron Jawed Angel
- 1:12Speaker 1: had a comment to follow up on what I had
- 1:16Speaker 1: said about Dell being homeless right that I thought was
- 1:20Speaker 1: pretty profound, and I think I agree.
- 1:22Speaker 2: And she said, I don't think Dell is homeless. He
- 1:24Speaker 2: has a house, but it's no longer a home because
- 1:28Speaker 2: his wife isn't there. Her clothes are probably still in
- 1:31Speaker 2: the closet. That's why he hasn't been back.
- 1:35Speaker 1: That just breaks my heart.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Ah, And then she actually got a reply from one
- 1:39Speaker 2: of our other listeners, Chris the Scotian, Just Chris, and
- 1:43Speaker 2: he said my thoughts exactly. He can't bear to go
- 1:46Speaker 2: back because he's not ready to accept it, even after
- 1:49Speaker 2: eight years. Yep, So do you agree with it? I
- 1:52Speaker 2: do those sentiments?
- 1:53Speaker 1: I do.
- 1:54Speaker 2: I do too. I think they're probably right and that
- 1:56Speaker 2: wasn't something that I had thought of. So again, thanks
- 1:58Speaker 2: to our listeners for always being there for us.
- 2:01Speaker 1: I know, and I'll love the feedback.
- 2:05Speaker 2: So anything else going on other than.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Just being in the loo?
- 2:10Speaker 2: Being in the loo?
- 2:11Speaker 1: I had some Emo's pizza for dinner. I'm looking at
- 2:15Speaker 1: getting some ted Drew's later on.
- 2:18Speaker 2: I have to go to ted Drew's when you're in town,
- 2:20Speaker 2: so I can't have to get good Italian food ted Drew's,
- 2:24Speaker 2: Emo's pizza, and you've checked most of the boxes. Maybe
- 2:29Speaker 2: some Lion's Choice roast beef.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Emmy wants to go to white Castle.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Yes, we will take her and for her first trip
- 2:36Speaker 2: to white Castle another beach Beastie boys hang out.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Have I been to white Castle?
- 2:41Speaker 2: I don't believe that you have.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I don't think I have either.
- 2:43Speaker 2: So I have Crystal down South.
- 2:45Speaker 1: I was going to say, it's similar to Crystal.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Not as good. Crystal is not as good.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Okay, so Crystal they only do mustard on their.
- 2:54Speaker 2: White castle, only does onions on theirs.
- 2:56Speaker 1: No ketchup or musk ketchup or mustards.
- 2:58Speaker 2: You will have to add that.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Do you add it?
- 3:01Speaker 2: I do not what I get others do.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Would I get laughed at if I added some ketchup? No?
- 3:07Speaker 2: Well, I mean as long as we do it in
- 3:08Speaker 2: the privacy of the hotel room and you're not out
- 3:10Speaker 2: in public embarrassing me.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Actually, I like mayo on my burger. Would that make
- 3:16Speaker 1: things weird?
- 3:17Speaker 2: That's disgusting?
- 3:18Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.
- 3:19Speaker 2: What are you European?
- 3:22Speaker 1: Maybe that might explain a lot. Okay, you ready to
- 3:24Speaker 1: jump on in?
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go get to it.
- 3:27Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
- 3:29Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighties. We talk about things that were
- 3:33Speaker 1: important to us as children and what we look back
- 3:36Speaker 1: on with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a
- 3:41Speaker 1: nostalgia podcast.
- 3:43Speaker 2: That's right. And as I mentioned a few episodes ago,
- 3:46Speaker 2: November is Thanksgiving obviously family time and we are here
- 3:52Speaker 2: visiting my family and this episode today was given to
- 3:56Speaker 2: me by my dad, and so we are going to
- 3:59Speaker 2: hit that. And so what we're talking about today are
- 4:02Speaker 2: eighties hits that were covers of hit songs from the
- 4:06Speaker 2: fifties and sixties.
- 4:08Speaker 1: So I thought you meant he was sponsoring the episode,
- 4:12Speaker 1: and I thought for a minute I was actually going
- 4:14Speaker 1: to get some money from ever.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think he's sponsoring the episode.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Did I say it was.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Brought to me by my dad or given to me?
- 4:23Speaker 1: I think you said given to me.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Still, I was thinking, this episode's brought to you by
- 4:28Speaker 2: the Butler family, who will be sponsoring us for one
- 4:31Speaker 2: thousand dollars a minute.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Oh, we better make this fast.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I think they're saying that too. But there are so
- 4:42Speaker 2: many cover songs in the eighties. Did you realize that
- 4:44Speaker 2: that we can't possibly cover them all in one episode.
- 4:47Speaker 1: I hadn't really stopped to think about that until we
- 4:50Speaker 1: started talking about this topic, and then I started kind
- 4:54Speaker 1: of making a mental list, and yeah, there are a lot,
- 4:57Speaker 1: There are tons.
- 4:57Speaker 2: So we've picked eight of our favorites because we can't
- 5:01Speaker 2: have a four and a half hour episode. We don't
- 5:04Speaker 2: want to put our live audience or our listening audience
- 5:07Speaker 2: to sleep. Yeah, start grumbling?
- 5:10Speaker 1: All right?
- 5:10Speaker 2: So any thoughts about cover songs? You said that you
- 5:15Speaker 2: saw a lot of them. Are there any ones that
- 5:18Speaker 2: aren't on this list that you just want to throw
- 5:20Speaker 2: out there and mention?
- 5:21Speaker 1: All the ones that I know of are on this list?
- 5:25Speaker 2: All right?
- 5:25Speaker 1: So you're ready to get to it, I'm ready.
- 5:27Speaker 2: So here's our first song. Let me know if you
- 5:29Speaker 2: recognize it. So did you recognize that song?
- 5:59Speaker 1: So? Not only do I I recognized that song? That's
- 6:01Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite songs period.
- 6:04Speaker 2: So that is Crimson and Clover covered by Jon Jet
- 6:07Speaker 2: and the Black Heart originally done.
- 6:10Speaker 1: By Tommy James and the Sean Dels.
- 6:13Speaker 2: That's right, So let me tell you about Jong Jet
- 6:15Speaker 2: and the Black Hearts. This song debuted in the top
- 6:17Speaker 2: forty on May fifteenth, nineteen eighty two. It was on
- 6:20Speaker 2: the chart for ten weeks. It peaked at number seven
- 6:23Speaker 2: on the Billboard Hot one hundred and was actually one
- 6:27Speaker 2: step higher on the Mainstream Rock chart, where it peaked
- 6:29Speaker 2: at number six. It charted in the top one hundred
- 6:34Speaker 2: for nineteen eighty two for a year end it actually
- 6:36Speaker 2: hit number seventy eight. I would not have guessed that
- 6:39Speaker 2: it was on their debut album. It was actually her
- 6:41Speaker 2: second album, but this was her first album with the
- 6:44Speaker 2: Black Hearts. I could be a member of the Black
- 6:49Speaker 2: Hearts since I also have a black heart.
- 6:53Speaker 1: You just made your sister laugh. She knows it's the truth.
- 6:57Speaker 2: This is a follow up to their it I Love
- 7:01Speaker 2: rock and Roll, which ironically is also a cover.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Is that all Joan Jet can do? All she did
- 7:07Speaker 1: was covers? Did she ever do anything original?
- 7:10Speaker 2: She did, Yeah, she did some original, but she did
- 7:12Speaker 2: a lot of covers, a lot of her popular stuff
- 7:13Speaker 2: for covers. So you mentioned Tommy James and the Chonde. Yeah,
- 7:19Speaker 2: so this is let me hear it, their version.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Not holling, No Crimson and Clue.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Controversial, say something controversial.
- 7:51Speaker 1: There's no comparison between the two.
- 7:54Speaker 2: No, No, the original is better. I mean, and I
- 7:57Speaker 2: don't say that a lot.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I know, and I don't want to slam Joon Jet.
- 8:00Speaker 1: I think she's fantastic, but in this situation, you just
- 8:04Speaker 1: can't even compare it. Well, you can't.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I mean, you can cover it, but you can't outdo
- 8:09Speaker 2: an original. That's fantastic. So let me give you their
- 8:13Speaker 2: debut debut in top forty on December twenty first, nineteen
- 8:17Speaker 2: sixty eight. It was on the chart for fifteen weeks.
- 8:19Speaker 2: It peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot one
- 8:22Speaker 2: hundred for two weeks. But get this, it was also
- 8:24Speaker 2: number one in Canada, Mexico, New Zealand, South Africa, and Switzerland.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Half the country now in the world. Half the world
- 8:34Speaker 1: knew what a great song that was.
- 8:36Speaker 2: It was the number ten song of the year for
- 8:38Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine. I would maybe they were nine better songs,
- 8:43Speaker 2: but I would find it hard pressed. I know what
- 8:45Speaker 2: number one was, though, and I would probably agree it's
- 8:48Speaker 2: probably a better song. It was Sugar Sugar by the Archie.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one too.
- 8:52Speaker 2: So which version did you hear first?
- 8:56Speaker 1: Okay, So I feel a little bad up to show
- 9:00Speaker 1: my ignorance, I did not know Jon Jet did this
- 9:03Speaker 1: as a cover. I thought that the only version of
- 9:07Speaker 1: this song was the Tommy James and the Shondell version.
- 9:12Speaker 2: So I actually did know that Jone Jett did this.
- 9:14Speaker 2: It was one of the first songs I remember hearing
- 9:17Speaker 2: as a kid on maybe MTV or just on the radio.
- 9:21Speaker 2: I hadn't heard the Tommy James version yet, so I
- 9:24Speaker 2: actually discovered Jone Jet first and I liked it, and
- 9:26Speaker 2: somebody told me it was a cover of Tommy James
- 9:28Speaker 2: and the Shondell's. That didn't mean anything to me other
- 9:31Speaker 2: than it was Tommy James and the Shondells, and so
- 9:36Speaker 2: I hadn't heard that version. I did not hear that
- 9:38Speaker 2: version until I was probably a teenager.
- 9:41Speaker 1: So I have a really embarrassing story. Can I give
- 9:44Speaker 1: it to you?
- 9:45Speaker 2: Well, we always love to embarrass ourselves.
- 9:47Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is right on up there.
- 9:49Speaker 1: So I was in sixth grade summer go well was
- 9:54Speaker 1: the summer going from fifth into sixth grade, So that
- 9:57Speaker 1: would have been the summer of nineteen ninety, yes, I
- 10:04Speaker 1: think if I'm doing my math correctly. Yeah, And I
- 10:06Speaker 1: wanted to go to summer camp and my parents said no,
- 10:10Speaker 1: I wasn't old enough. It was going to be a week.
- 10:12Speaker 1: And they said I wasn't old enough to be gone
- 10:14Speaker 1: from home a state away for a solid week without them.
- 10:19Speaker 1: So they packed their bags and they went to Whoa.
- 10:23Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with Crimson and Clover.
- 10:25Speaker 2: I'm so confused.
- 10:26Speaker 1: I'm getting there. So my parents went with me to
- 10:29Speaker 1: a week of summer camp and there were some older
- 10:34Speaker 1: teenagers at this summer camp who I just looked up to.
- 10:38Speaker 1: They had such like a cool style, and I thought
- 10:40Speaker 1: their clothes were different. They were coming from somewhere else
- 10:43Speaker 1: in the country. I don't remember now where. I thought
- 10:45Speaker 1: their clothes were different and everything. They went around singing
- 10:49Speaker 1: this song all.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Week at camp in nineteen ninety.
- 10:52Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety, so both.
- 10:54Speaker 2: Those songs were old by nineteen ninety. Yeah, I know
- 10:57Speaker 2: were they Yankees? Because I know that you Southerners, you
- 10:59Speaker 2: don't like the Yankees.
- 11:01Speaker 1: What does that have to do with any of this?
- 11:03Speaker 2: Well, because you said that they were kids and they
- 11:05Speaker 2: were from a different part of the world and they
- 11:07Speaker 2: were cool. So I just wondered if you like went
- 11:09Speaker 2: against the grain and you actually liked the Yankees.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I think they were from Florida, but anyways, might as
- 11:16Speaker 1: well be a different part of the world. So they
- 11:18Speaker 1: went around singing this song all week long. I had
- 11:21Speaker 1: heard it before because in my house we listened to
- 11:24Speaker 1: a lot of oldies, right, and so I knew the song,
- 11:27Speaker 1: but then to hear them singing it, it just added
- 11:30Speaker 1: like an extra cool factor, and that's when I fell
- 11:33Speaker 1: in love with the song.
- 11:34Speaker 2: So I feel like, as a kid, my dad always
- 11:36Speaker 2: played oldies, and I had not ever heard him play
- 11:39Speaker 2: this song. Played a lot of Beatles and a lot
- 11:42Speaker 2: of Aerosmith and Eagles and stuff like that, but no
- 11:48Speaker 2: Tommy James and the Chandell So I had not heard this.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Like I said, I heard Jones Jet first. I liked it.
- 11:53Speaker 2: I heard Tommy James when I was older, and usually
- 11:57Speaker 2: I liked the version that I heard first. But the
- 11:59Speaker 2: Tommy James and version is just so cool that I'm
- 12:02Speaker 2: gonna take that one.
- 12:03Speaker 1: And how do they do this? How do they do that?
- 12:07Speaker 2: They're my people, They're Indians like that.
- 12:11Speaker 1: But yeah, that was cool. Imagine how innovative that was
- 12:16Speaker 1: back in the day.
- 12:18Speaker 2: I mean, if you ask me as a kid, like
- 12:20Speaker 2: everything in the sixties, it was like living in black
- 12:22Speaker 2: and white?
- 12:24Speaker 1: All right, You ready to get to the next one?
- 12:26Speaker 1: Bring it on.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I think this artist might be a little bit familiar.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Did she just say trying to be a yes or
- 13:01Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a skinny one. I'm like a
- 13:03Speaker 1: skinny one. That voice sounded familiar.
- 13:07Speaker 2: That was Joe Jet and the Black Hearts. You asked
- 13:11Speaker 2: if all they did was covers, Well, here's another one,
- 13:14Speaker 2: and that was Everyday People, which was originally.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Done by sling the Family Stone. That is correct.
- 13:20Speaker 2: So this one debut in the top forty on October fifteenth,
- 13:22Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three. It was only on the chart for
- 13:25Speaker 2: two weeks, so.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Listen, she should have stayed home that day. That was embarrassing.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Peaked at number thirty seven on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
- 13:35Speaker 2: but peaked at number six on the Mainstream Rock chart.
- 13:38Speaker 2: This was on their second album from nineteen eighty three.
- 13:42Speaker 2: So I get the feeling that you don't like this version.
- 13:46Speaker 1: No, I don't let me play it lacks depth, it does.
- 13:50Speaker 2: So let me play this version for me. Man Stone,
- 14:21Speaker 2: different strokes for different faults, trying to be a skinny one.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Jon Jet's voice felt very immature in her version
- 14:30Speaker 1: of Everyday People, so I got to go with Slane
- 14:33Speaker 1: the family one sly.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Had a better voice than jone Jut.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Yeah, but listen, I'm not hating on jone Jet. I
- 14:38Speaker 1: actually I'm a jone Jet fan. I'm sorry. This is
- 14:42Speaker 1: just not it for me.
- 14:43Speaker 2: So let me give you the deats on Sliing the
- 14:45Speaker 2: Family Stone. It debuted in the top forty on January fourth,
- 14:47Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, was on the chart for fourteen weeks.
- 14:50Speaker 2: It peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot one
- 14:53Speaker 2: hundred for four weeks. For those of you that are
- 14:56Speaker 2: mathematically impaired, that's a month.
- 14:58Speaker 1: That's me.
- 14:59Speaker 2: That's this was the number five song of the year
- 15:02Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine. So this was actually rated higher
- 15:05Speaker 2: than Tommy James and the Shondell's Crimson and Clover. And
- 15:10Speaker 2: it is number two hundred and ninety nine on the
- 15:13Speaker 2: all time chart.
- 15:15Speaker 1: You know those all time charts. They make me chuckle.
- 15:17Speaker 1: I don't know how you can ever just rank every
- 15:20Speaker 1: song that's ever been in all of existence. Well, and
- 15:25Speaker 1: this is two ninety nine.
- 15:26Speaker 2: So I don't think I need to ask you which
- 15:28Speaker 2: version you like better. I think you made that pretty clear.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Which version did you hear first?
- 15:32Speaker 1: It's Fly in the Family st so me too.
- 15:34Speaker 2: I actually heard the older version first, and then I
- 15:37Speaker 2: discovered the Jones Jet version just by listening to some
- 15:40Speaker 2: kind of mix on YouTube or something that came out
- 15:42Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, it's pretty cool. Like I
- 15:43Speaker 2: didn't realize that anybody had ever covered this, and I
- 15:46Speaker 2: thought that she did a good job, but it's not
- 15:48Speaker 2: nearly what the original was. So I did do some
- 15:52Speaker 2: research on this song, though you want to hear what
- 15:54Speaker 2: I found.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Absolutely so this is one of.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Sly Stones pleas for peace and equality among differing races
- 16:01Speaker 2: and social groups, a major theme and focus for the
- 16:03Speaker 2: band Sly. Sister Roastone sings bridging sections using the cadence
- 16:08Speaker 2: of Nana Nana Boo boo, the children's taunt.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I had never thought about it like that, right, and so.
- 16:16Speaker 2: The chap mox the futility of people hating each other
- 16:20Speaker 2: for being tall, short, rich, poor, fat, skinny, white, black,
- 16:23Speaker 2: or anything else. The bridge of the song contains the
- 16:26Speaker 2: line which I said earlier, Different strokes for different folks,
- 16:30Speaker 2: and this kind of led to the theme song for
- 16:34Speaker 2: the television show Different Strokes.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Really, are you just making that I'm not baking that up?
- 16:39Speaker 2: All right?
- 16:39Speaker 1: You ready for the next one?
- 16:40Speaker 2: Or you got anything else to say about U? Sly
- 16:43Speaker 2: and the family Stone and everyday people. I hope that
- 16:46Speaker 2: I'm everyday people.
- 16:47Speaker 1: Uh, well you are.
- 16:49Speaker 2: I hope I'm tomorrow people.
- 16:51Speaker 1: You're you're the what is it the man of the people,
- 16:54Speaker 1: the man?
- 16:55Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I am. I'm the man of the people.
- 16:57Speaker 2: I'm gonna run for mayor of pod cast. Lean, all right,
- 17:02Speaker 2: you're ready for the next one. So why don't you
- 17:24Speaker 2: tell the folks what that is?
- 17:26Speaker 1: So that is Lubumba by Los Lobos.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Yes, when it's a cover of.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Richie Vallen song, right, which really.
- 17:36Speaker 2: We know is a is an old Mexican folk song
- 17:38Speaker 2: that Richievallens just did and made popular unpopular radio. Right,
- 17:42Speaker 2: but Richie Villins did not write it.
- 17:45Speaker 1: But do you think the people listening to just mainstream
- 17:48Speaker 1: radio when Richie Vallens did it, do you think they
- 17:51Speaker 1: knew that that was just like a Mexican folk song.
- 17:55Speaker 1: I bet the Mexican people did, I'm sure, but just
- 17:57Speaker 1: the average white guy. Okay. So the Low's Lobos version
- 18:03Speaker 1: of La Bamba debuted in the Top forty on July eighteenth,
- 18:07Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven, where it's set on the chart for
- 18:10Speaker 1: fourteen weeks. It peaked at number one on Billboard Hot
- 18:14Speaker 1: one hundred, where it stayed for three weeks. It landed
- 18:18Speaker 1: number eleven on the Mainstream Rock chart, number four on
- 18:22Speaker 1: the AC chart, and number one on the US Latin
- 18:26Speaker 1: Songs Chart.
- 18:26Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was a US Latin song no.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Idea, No Idea, also number one in thirteen other countries
- 18:33Speaker 1: and top five and six more pretty big hit. It
- 18:36Speaker 1: was the number eleven song of the Year in nineteen
- 18:40Speaker 1: eighty seven. That's I mean, that's pretty high. Now, No
- 18:46Speaker 1: number eleven. That surprises me a little bit.
- 18:49Speaker 2: It does me too, But I mean I remember it
- 18:50Speaker 2: being somewhat popular, and I remember the movie being popular, obviously,
- 18:53Speaker 2: but with Lou Diamond Phillips.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Yeah, Lou Diamond Phillips, who's not Hispanic, No, he's not,
- 19:01Speaker 1: and he's.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Got he's got a lot of mixture in him. We've
- 19:03Speaker 2: we've looked at that in the past because he's in
- 19:05Speaker 2: a lot of our favorite Native American shows.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Yeah. So was the fourth holy non English language song
- 19:12Speaker 1: to reach the top spawn on Billboard's Hot one hundred.
- 19:16Speaker 2: All right, so that was Los Lobos version. Let's listen
- 19:20Speaker 2: to Richie Vallens. Okay, So I feel like Richie Vallens
- 19:50Speaker 2: spoke better Spanish than Los Lobos.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like you did too.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Why don't you give this information on the Richie Vollens
- 19:58Speaker 2: version and then I'll talk a little bit about that.
- 20:00Speaker 1: So it debuted in the top forty on January nineteenth,
- 20:05Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine. It was on the chart for eight weeks,
- 20:09Speaker 1: so for us mathematically challenged.
- 20:12Speaker 2: People, it's about two months.
- 20:14Speaker 1: So. It peaked at number twenty two on the Billboard
- 20:17Speaker 1: Hot one hundred and is best known for Richie Vallen's adaptation.
- 20:23Speaker 1: This was a follow up to his biggest hit, Donna,
- 20:27Speaker 1: which was a number two song for two weeks.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Yes you know, oh Donna, yesh.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure do. I didn't realize that was Richie Vallen.
- 20:34Speaker 1: It is Richie Valens.
- 20:36Speaker 2: And so I'm looking here at a picture of Richie
- 20:38Speaker 2: Valens and he looks like Sammy Sosa. Now not Sammy Sosa.
- 20:44Speaker 1: When he played, I was going to say, Sammy sam out.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Sammy Sosa bleached out with the cowboy hat. I
- 20:49Speaker 2: Richie isn't wearing the cowboy hat.
- 20:55Speaker 1: He knowes he's He's a little more handsome than a
- 20:58Speaker 1: bleached out, bloated at Sammy so.
- 21:00Speaker 2: And Lou Diamond Phillips was a little bit more handsome.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Than Richey Valence. Well that's always how those things work
- 21:04Speaker 1: going downhill. So which version did you hear first? I heard?
- 21:09Speaker 2: I think I heard Richie Ballins first. I'm not sure.
- 21:11Speaker 1: I think I did. Ten.
- 21:12Speaker 2: It was right there, we did. I know we did
- 21:15Speaker 2: a fifties unit in like eighth grade, and so nineteen
- 21:21Speaker 2: eighty seven July eighteenth, nineteen eighty seven would have been
- 21:25Speaker 2: the year that I was heading the summer between seventh
- 21:28Speaker 2: and eighth grade, so I may have heard the Los
- 21:30Speaker 2: Lobos version first. I don't know. It's possible that I
- 21:33Speaker 2: heard the Richie ballins. It's not something that really sticks
- 21:35Speaker 2: out in my head.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Why do I feel like Los Lobos did something like
- 21:39Speaker 1: on into the nineties. Did they possibly?
- 21:43Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't research into the nineties. I
- 21:45Speaker 2: only research into nineteen eighty ten.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I feel like they did. But anyways, I think that
- 21:50Speaker 1: I probably heard the Richie Vallens version first, and honestly,
- 21:55Speaker 1: I like his version better.
- 21:57Speaker 2: I can't choose between the two to be they're the same.
- 21:59Speaker 2: You know what, I've got another version that I like better,
- 22:02Speaker 2: and I'll play it right.
- 22:03Speaker 4: Here, Lasagna, You and Lasagna, maybe.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Bughetti, what do you think about that, Mama Mia Banbino.
- 22:21Speaker 1: That's hysterical. We listened to weird out like the whole
- 22:25Speaker 1: way here, the whole way here. It was only until
- 22:27Speaker 1: you fell asleep felt like the whole way here.
- 22:33Speaker 2: So you're sticking with Richie Valen's version being better. I'm
- 22:37Speaker 2: going with Lasagna being better than Lobamba.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I don't even think that it's on the table. I
- 22:44Speaker 1: don't think you can do that.
- 22:46Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want. This is my show.
- 22:48Speaker 2: If you don't like it, get your own show.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Oh all right, let's move on to the next song.
- 23:01Speaker 2: A Little.
- 23:06Speaker 5: Will to Me.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Oh. I love that song.
- 23:27Speaker 2: So that's Lean on Me by Club Nouveau, originally done
- 23:30Speaker 2: by Bill Withers, debut in the top forty on February
- 23:34Speaker 2: twenty first, nineteen eighty seven. I think you're gonna see
- 23:36Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven as a theme.
- 23:38Speaker 1: Apparently what was going on that year?
- 23:40Speaker 2: I guess they ran out of music to do on
- 23:42Speaker 2: their own on the chart for twelve weeks, only twelve weeks,
- 23:45Speaker 2: which is shocking. But it peaked at number one on
- 23:47Speaker 2: the Billboard Hot one hundred for two weeks, and it
- 23:49Speaker 2: was number one on airplay also for two weeks, and
- 23:52Speaker 2: for sales for a week. It also hit number one
- 23:54Speaker 2: in New Zealand and Canada. It was the number twenty
- 23:58Speaker 2: nine song of the Year in nineteen eighty. But here
- 24:01Speaker 2: is what shocked me. It actually won a Grammy Award
- 24:05Speaker 2: for Bill Withers as the Writer for Best R and
- 24:07Speaker 2: B Song, fifteen years after he wrote the song rings
- 24:12Speaker 2: number ninety four on VH one's one hundred Greatest one
- 24:15Speaker 2: Hit Wonders of the Eighties.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Okay, so that summer camp that I went to with
- 24:19Speaker 1: my parents.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Uh huh, did you also sing.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Lean on Me? We did? We did. We'd have a
- 24:24Speaker 1: little like after dinner at night, we would all come
- 24:28Speaker 1: back together and they would have like a little like message.
- 24:31Speaker 1: It was a church camp thing, so they would do
- 24:33Speaker 1: like a little message and then we would all sing
- 24:35Speaker 1: and stuff. And this is one of the songs.
- 24:36Speaker 2: We would sing, sit around the fire and play the
- 24:38Speaker 2: guitar and sound rounds.
- 24:39Speaker 1: But there are there are hand motions to this song.
- 24:42Speaker 2: There are hand motions to lean on me.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Yes, I don't remember them, but there are. You have
- 24:47Speaker 1: to have a partner though, because you have to lean
- 24:49Speaker 1: on them.
- 24:50Speaker 2: You have to lean on their back.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to sing. You have to lean back
- 24:53Speaker 1: to back. Uh huh.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Okay. Takes a lot of faith to lean back to
- 24:58Speaker 2: back on somebody that you don't know. I hope they
- 25:00Speaker 2: max you up by height too, because if you were
- 25:02Speaker 2: going you know, you were like five foot seven in
- 25:04Speaker 2: the fifth grade.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Were going with like a little four foot one boy
- 25:08Speaker 2: who ended puberty.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Yet, like I was traveling with my Persham or something.
- 25:13Speaker 1: So I had my built in best friend and my.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Mom's Oh okay, okay, let me.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Tell you a little bit about Bill Withers version. Okay,
- 25:21Speaker 1: you ready?
- 25:22Speaker 5: Yep it?
- 25:24Speaker 1: Do you want to play it? If we know that, always.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Lean on me when you're not start.
- 25:43Speaker 5: And I'll me you break ow that you can.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Bet it.
- 26:04Speaker 1: So I have never thought this before about this song,
- 26:08Speaker 1: but when you put it up next to Club DeVoe's version,
- 26:12Speaker 1: I feel like old Bill is too bored to really
- 26:15Speaker 1: get this song out.
- 26:17Speaker 2: I mean I just listened to that. I fell asleep
- 26:19Speaker 2: for a few minutes.
- 26:20Speaker 1: I never thought that before though, But he definitely takes
- 26:24Speaker 1: it much slower.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Yes, it was like I had narcolepsie or something. That
- 26:28Speaker 2: song put me to sleep.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Okay, So Bill Withers version caused me to wither away. Yes.
- 26:37Speaker 1: It debuted in the top forty on May twenty seventh,
- 26:41Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, not long before you came along correct,
- 26:47Speaker 1: We're set on the chart for fourteen weeks. It peaked
- 26:50Speaker 1: at number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred for
- 26:54Speaker 1: three weeks. It was the number seven Song of the
- 26:57Speaker 1: Year for nineteen seventy two. So I have to ask
- 27:01Speaker 1: you which version did you hear first? I don't know.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I can't. I'm having a hard time knowing.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I heard the Club Neuvaue version first.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think I could say. Now, which
- 27:13Speaker 1: one do I like better? I think, now that we've
- 27:15Speaker 1: put them side by side, I mean, I think I
- 27:18Speaker 1: might pick Club Novidue.
- 27:19Speaker 2: That's what I'm going with too. It's just a little
- 27:21Speaker 2: more upbeat and a little more you know, dancy. I
- 27:26Speaker 2: guess not that I dance. But it's a bop.
- 27:29Speaker 1: It's a bop. I love it. It's a I love
- 27:32Speaker 1: me a good bop.
- 27:34Speaker 2: Bill Withers is not a bop.
- 27:35Speaker 1: It's a it's a slow dance.
- 27:38Speaker 2: It's a slow dance, just too slow and boring for me.
- 27:41Speaker 2: Although he does have a fantastic voice, and I do
- 27:44Speaker 2: love Bill Withers, but not digging that song, or at
- 27:47Speaker 2: least that version of that song well written, though all.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Right, you ready for the next one. I am.
- 27:52Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a pattern here, at
- 27:54Speaker 2: least with something, some kind of a pattern.
- 28:00Speaker 6: She come nothing, she was out, turn around coome on moon.
- 28:16Speaker 5: All right, now, you gotta.
- 28:36Speaker 1: All right. I have so many questions.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Why don't you go ahead and give the people the
- 28:43Speaker 2: name of the song?
- 28:43Speaker 1: And okay, I'm sorry, I was jumping right into my questions. Okay,
- 28:47Speaker 1: it's money money, yes by Billy Idol.
- 28:52Speaker 2: Why are you looking at me? Why were you like
- 28:54Speaker 2: money money? And then you looked at me as if
- 28:55Speaker 2: did I say that correctly? Like it was super color
- 28:58Speaker 2: fragulent text?
- 28:59Speaker 1: Me? I know, because what's a mony? That's don't worry.
- 29:03Speaker 2: About you think too deeply on these things.
- 29:05Speaker 1: That's my question. It's like he puts that into the
- 29:09Speaker 1: song as a as an action verb.
- 29:12Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Tommy James still does a song
- 29:15Speaker 2: on sixties on six, although I don't think it's on
- 29:17Speaker 2: six anymore. Why don't we call him up and ask
- 29:20Speaker 2: him what's a mony?
- 29:22Speaker 1: What's a mony? Money? So?
- 29:25Speaker 2: Yes, this was Billy Idol, originally done by Tommy James
- 29:28Speaker 2: and the Chandell. Since you're shirking your responsibilities, I'll go ahead.
- 29:32Speaker 1: I got no no no, what they want no no no.
- 29:35Speaker 1: So the song's title was inspired by Tommy James view
- 29:42Speaker 1: of the m O n Y sign atop the Mutual
- 29:45Speaker 1: of New York building in New York City. Well, you
- 29:49Speaker 1: could see that from his Manhattan apartment. That's where it
- 29:52Speaker 1: comes from.
- 29:53Speaker 2: I doubt Billy Idol could sing it see it from
- 29:56Speaker 2: England unless you had a very strong telescope.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Yes, correct.
- 30:00Speaker 2: So this is Money Money by Billy Idol debut in
- 30:03Speaker 2: the Top forty on September twenty sixth, nineteen eighty seven.
- 30:06Speaker 2: It was on the chart for twelve weeks, and it
- 30:08Speaker 2: peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
- 30:11Speaker 2: It was also number one in sales and two in airplay.
- 30:14Speaker 2: It was the number nineteen song of the Year in
- 30:16Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. It was Billy's eighth Top forty hit
- 30:20Speaker 2: and his only number one.
- 30:23Speaker 1: That is, Billy Idol's only number one song, Number one. Oh,
- 30:27Speaker 1: I had no idea.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Apparently it wasn't always a nice day for a white one.
- 30:31Speaker 1: Wait yeah, oh gosh, okay, let me hear the other one,
- 30:35Speaker 1: all right?
- 30:37Speaker 6: Basic Come thousand voted a soon count on a alcomvoted.
- 30:52Speaker 7: Fading love all that.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Okay, that was the Tommy James and the Shondell's version.
- 31:17Speaker 1: What do you think he gets into that, Dunny. Here's
- 31:20Speaker 1: the thing, Tommy James has the passion in this song
- 31:23Speaker 1: that Billy Idol doesn't have because Billy Idol is like me,
- 31:27Speaker 1: he doesn't understand what mony mony is either.
- 31:30Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, Billy Idol rocked out more than
- 31:33Speaker 2: Tommy James. And I feel like Tommy James wanted to
- 31:35Speaker 2: be forefront here because it sounds like the Shondells are
- 31:38Speaker 2: in a bathroom down the street.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, So Tommy James version. It debuted in
- 31:47Speaker 1: the top forty on May fourth, nineteen sixty eight. It
- 31:51Speaker 1: was on the chart for thirteen weeks. It peaked at
- 31:55Speaker 1: number three on the Billboard Hot one hundred. It was
- 31:59Speaker 1: number one in the UK.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Now that's ironic. The American had a number one hit
- 32:04Speaker 2: in the UK and the guy from the UK had
- 32:07Speaker 2: a number one hit in America.
- 32:09Speaker 1: That's sideways, isn't it.
- 32:11Speaker 2: It's just it's a flip flop. So which version did
- 32:14Speaker 2: you hear first?
- 32:15Speaker 1: I think I heard the Tommy James version first.
- 32:20Speaker 2: I think I heard the Billy Idyl version first. Which
- 32:23Speaker 2: version do you like best, Tommy James. I'm sorry, but
- 32:26Speaker 2: that's the an incorrect answer. No, correct answer is Billy Idol.
- 32:31Speaker 1: No, no, because listen, put your little weird hand thing down. Listen.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Billy Idol he just kind of phones it in.
- 32:41Speaker 2: He didn't phone it in. Yeah, to number one, number
- 32:44Speaker 2: one and Tommy James. You know what, Tommy James didn't
- 32:46Speaker 2: get somebody to come in and say here she comes
- 32:49Speaker 2: now once her alimony like Billy Idol did when weird
- 32:55Speaker 2: I'll covered it the same year.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Okay, if you say so. I still think Tommy James
- 33:00Speaker 1: has a passion in his voice that Billy Idol is
- 33:02Speaker 1: like I would agree with that. I agree with that one.
- 33:05Speaker 2: But the backing band was better. The Schondelle's let me
- 33:09Speaker 2: down on this one, and so did all the people
- 33:10Speaker 2: who play the instruments. Okay, so that's why I'm going
- 33:13Speaker 2: with Billy and his band. So who do you like better?
- 33:16Speaker 1: Again, Tommy James, you don't talk.
- 33:20Speaker 2: About Billy Idol that way?
- 33:24Speaker 1: All right? Moving on.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Time?
- 33:36Speaker 1: The line.
- 33:41Speaker 8: As that one's kind of a bop too, isn't it
- 33:51Speaker 8: a little bit?
- 33:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives me a little will pick me up.
- 33:55Speaker 2: So tell me what that is.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Okay. The tide is high, and that one is is
- 34:00Speaker 1: the Blondie version? Yes, originally done by the Paragons?
- 34:04Speaker 2: All right? Have you ever heard of the Paragons? Not
- 34:07Speaker 2: I've heard of a paradox.
- 34:09Speaker 1: I've heard of a pair of dice, A pair of dice. Okay.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard of the paragons.
- 34:15Speaker 2: I've heard of a pair of shoes.
- 34:17Speaker 1: I've heard of a parachute.
- 34:19Speaker 2: All right, I think you got me beat there.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Okay, So the Blondie version. It debuted in the top
- 34:24Speaker 1: forty on November twenty, nineteen eighty. This just came in
- 34:29Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the decade, where it was
- 34:31Speaker 1: on the chart for seventeen weeks, that.
- 34:34Speaker 2: Is four months.
- 34:35Speaker 1: That's impressive. So it peaked at number one on the
- 34:39Speaker 1: Billboard Hot one hundred, It peaked at number three on
- 34:43Speaker 1: the Adult Contemporary chart, and it was the number seventeen
- 34:47Speaker 1: song of the year in nineteen eighty one. Listen to This.
- 34:51Speaker 1: It was also number one in Canada, the UK, and
- 34:56Speaker 1: New Zealand, and it was a top five song in
- 35:00Speaker 1: six other countries. So people liked it.
- 35:03Speaker 2: People liked it I was not one of those people.
- 35:07Speaker 2: What I was not an everyday people with this one.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Oh really?
- 35:10Speaker 2: I hated this song up until about two months ago.
- 35:16Speaker 2: What it came on a list that I was listening
- 35:21Speaker 2: to and I just kind of started bopping to it,
- 35:23Speaker 2: and I'm like, Eh, maybe I wasn't fair to this song.
- 35:26Speaker 2: I actually kind of like it.
- 35:28Speaker 1: It's not a bad song.
- 35:29Speaker 2: I hated it for the longest time.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Can you play the Paragon's version?
- 35:33Speaker 2: Let's do that.
- 35:54Speaker 1: Just like that? Are they?
- 36:02Speaker 2: It's not gonna be my number one? I can tell
- 36:04Speaker 2: you that much.
- 36:06Speaker 1: That was rough.
- 36:07Speaker 2: That was rough. So let me give you a little
- 36:09Speaker 2: bit of information for it. Maybe it'll give you some
- 36:11Speaker 2: background on it, maybe help you understand it a little
- 36:13Speaker 2: bit more so. This was written by John Holt, who
- 36:16Speaker 2: was a member of the Paragons, which was a group
- 36:18Speaker 2: in Jamaica. It was released in nineteen sixty seven. It
- 36:22Speaker 2: never charted here in the US, and I think we
- 36:24Speaker 2: can understand why because that was pretty dreadful. But the
- 36:27Speaker 2: genre is rock steady. Do you recognize rock steady other
- 36:32Speaker 2: than being a song by the Whispers?
- 36:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I know about rockstee So.
- 36:35Speaker 2: This was a successor to ska music and a precursor
- 36:39Speaker 2: to reggae. That's what rock span genre was. Okay, so
- 36:43Speaker 2: I don't even think I need to ask you which
- 36:45Speaker 2: version did you hear first? And I don't think I
- 36:47Speaker 2: need to ask you which version do you like better?
- 36:50Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you do not.
- 36:51Speaker 2: The Paragon's version is a little rough. Now. I did
- 36:55Speaker 2: not realize that Blondie that that was a cover until.
- 36:58Speaker 1: I saw that Paragons that version never charted in the US.
- 37:03Speaker 2: Well there's a reason for that, yeah, I know, right, Yeah.
- 37:05Speaker 1: So, but I like the song. I mean, I don't
- 37:08Speaker 1: like the Paragons version, but you like the Blondie version.
- 37:11Speaker 1: I do. So.
- 37:11Speaker 2: Blondie did not want to do any covers at all,
- 37:14Speaker 2: but she heard that song and just liked it so
- 37:16Speaker 2: much and was like, we've got to do it.
- 37:18Speaker 1: I do, missus blonde Debbie.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Harry, Oh, missus Blondie. No, mister Blondie, after this, can
- 37:25Speaker 2: we go get a blondie because I'm kind of hungry?
- 37:28Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
- 37:29Speaker 2: I don't have a whole lot more to say other
- 37:30Speaker 2: than I hated this song and now I like the
- 37:34Speaker 2: Blondie version. But I still get to live in my
- 37:37Speaker 2: hate because I heard the Paragon's version.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Oh, I don't hate this next one.
- 37:43Speaker 2: I can tell you that. All right, let's move on
- 37:45Speaker 2: to the next one.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Okay, don't at me, don't at you, don't at me,
- 38:23Speaker 1: but I hate that version.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Well, then I guess we don't have to wait till
- 38:29Speaker 2: the end of the end of the show where you
- 38:32Speaker 2: say which version you like better.
- 38:34Speaker 1: I know we have a lot of people who love
- 38:37Speaker 1: van Halen. That's fine, that was atrocious.
- 38:41Speaker 2: You're gonna get added or I'm gonna get added because
- 38:45Speaker 2: I handed to Winter. The opinions of Lindsay Butler do
- 38:50Speaker 2: not necessarily reflect the opinions of the children of the
- 38:53Speaker 2: eighties podcast that is pretty Woman or oh, in parentheses,
- 39:00Speaker 2: pretty Woman by Van Halen, which.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Was a cover of Roy Orbison.
- 39:06Speaker 2: So this debut in the top forty on June twenty six,
- 39:08Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. It was on the chart for nine weeks.
- 39:10Speaker 2: It peaked at number twelve on the Billboard Hot one hundred.
- 39:13Speaker 2: But hey, you are about the only person that hated this,
- 39:16Speaker 2: because this was number one on the Mainstream Rock chart
- 39:19Speaker 2: for two weeks, and it was the number eighty eight
- 39:22Speaker 2: song of the Year in nineteen eighty two and I've
- 39:25Speaker 2: got a little bit of nugget for you. So this
- 39:27Speaker 2: was to be released as a non album single before
- 39:30Speaker 2: they had planned a hiatus, but because it was so
- 39:33Speaker 2: successful by listeners other than Lindsey Butler, the record company
- 39:39Speaker 2: pressured them into releasing an album, and therefore that's why
- 39:42Speaker 2: we have diver Down. Oh and I think a lot
- 39:46Speaker 2: of Van Halen fans may not be super happy about
- 39:48Speaker 2: diver Down.
- 39:50Speaker 1: But why did they just kind of have to throw
- 39:52Speaker 1: it together?
- 39:53Speaker 2: I mean, it's definitely not nineteen eighty four or any
- 39:58Speaker 2: of their earlier stuff. So this is their third top
- 40:01Speaker 2: forty hit, after Danced the Night Away and then another
- 40:04Speaker 2: cover of the Kinks You Really Got Me. And I
- 40:07Speaker 2: was really hoping that that had been in the eighties
- 40:08Speaker 2: because I was going to include that, But that's actually
- 40:10Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight. So but that was a good cover.
- 40:13Speaker 2: I think you probably would have liked that version. I
- 40:16Speaker 2: got a feeling that you like this version better.
- 40:31Speaker 6: Pretty woman walking down the street, Pretty Alma, I'm.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Kind of like you me, Pretty Alma.
- 40:41Speaker 3: I don't leave you no one good old as good
- 40:47Speaker 3: as you.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Mercy. Do you think that's where Uncle Jesse had got
- 40:55Speaker 2: half Mercy? From with Roy Orbison, I do, so.
- 40:59Speaker 1: What should give us?
- 41:00Speaker 2: And I know you like that version better, so I'll
- 41:03Speaker 2: save my final judgment until we get to the end
- 41:05Speaker 2: of what we're going to talk about. But why don't
- 41:07Speaker 2: you go ahead and give the royal information?
- 41:09Speaker 1: So it debuted in the Top forty on September the fifth,
- 41:12Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four. It was on the chart for fourteen weeks.
- 41:17Speaker 1: It peinked at number one on the Billboard Hot one hundred,
- 41:21Speaker 1: where it set for three weeks. It was also number
- 41:24Speaker 1: one in eleven other countries. It was the number four
- 41:28Speaker 1: song of the Year for nineteen sixty four. It was
- 41:31Speaker 1: number seven in the UK. This was his second and
- 41:36Speaker 1: final number one hit. It was his seventeenth top forty hit.
- 41:42Speaker 1: I feel like like, in my mind, Roy Orbison is
- 41:46Speaker 1: a lot more talented, a lot more popular than someone
- 41:51Speaker 1: who only had two number one hits.
- 41:55Speaker 2: Who only had two number one hits Orbison, Oh okay,
- 42:02Speaker 2: I thought you were comparing him to somebody.
- 42:04Speaker 1: I'm just saying, in my mind.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Talented, yeah, and too popular to have only had.
- 42:09Speaker 1: To have only had two number one hits.
- 42:12Speaker 2: Well, you know me. I always loved the Traveling Wilbury's
- 42:14Speaker 2: and yeah, Roy Orbison was one of them, and unfortunately
- 42:17Speaker 2: the first one to pass. I'm looking at his picture
- 42:20Speaker 2: here in the nineteen sixties. He's got the pompadour, yeah,
- 42:24Speaker 2: the black pompadoor, but he might and he's got the
- 42:26Speaker 2: Buddy Holly glasses, but he might be the first person
- 42:29Speaker 2: with tents. Well you got the tinted glasses.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know he had an eye condition where
- 42:35Speaker 1: his eyes were he was super sensitive to the lights.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Okay, then we're just gonna cut that part out of
- 42:40Speaker 2: the podcast.
- 42:40Speaker 1: No, we're not. We're gonna leave it because when little
- 42:44Speaker 1: Lynz comes along and she sees Roy Orbison on TV.
- 42:50Speaker 1: In my house, country music was everything, so they had
- 42:54Speaker 1: my parents had already had to explain Ronnie Millsap to
- 42:57Speaker 1: me was blind and had to walk me through what
- 42:59Speaker 1: that meant. So when I see Roy Orbison on TV
- 43:03Speaker 1: and he's got these dark sunglasses on, I say, oh,
- 43:06Speaker 1: he's blind, like Ronnie Millsap, And then my Mom's like, no,
- 43:09Speaker 1: he's not blind. It just blew my mind's and I
- 43:13Speaker 1: was like, no, he is, because he's wearing the sunglasses
- 43:16Speaker 1: just like Charles. Where's the sunglasses? Ronnie Millsap where's the sunglasses?
- 43:20Speaker 1: Stevie wonder where's the sunglasses? Even though especially when he drives,
- 43:24Speaker 1: he wears the sunglasses.
- 43:25Speaker 5: Yes, but Roy.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Orbison were the sunglasses. But he was not blind, Yeah, correct,
- 43:31Speaker 1: but he had some kind of condition His eyes were
- 43:33Speaker 1: super sensitive to light, so he always has on these
- 43:35Speaker 1: dark sunglines.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Can I get the tents?
- 43:37Speaker 1: Like?
- 43:37Speaker 2: Or no?
- 43:38Speaker 1: And what did I tell you that I can? That
- 43:41Speaker 1: you cannot and that I would actually divor you?
- 43:45Speaker 2: Well, that's right, that's where I was going. I can,
- 43:47Speaker 2: but I will be single after that, so you better
- 43:49Speaker 2: not make me madder. I'm getting the tents all right?
- 43:52Speaker 2: So which version did you hear first?
- 43:54Speaker 1: I didn't even know until I was like an adult
- 43:56Speaker 1: that Van Halen had done this song, had covered this.
- 44:00Speaker 1: So Roy Orbison's version is the only version that exists
- 44:03Speaker 1: in my world.
- 44:04Speaker 2: So I heard the Roy Orbison version first two. As
- 44:06Speaker 2: I mentioned, my dad listened to a lot of oldies
- 44:08Speaker 2: and this was one of them. I like Roy's version better.
- 44:12Speaker 1: And you can't beat Roy.
- 44:13Speaker 2: No, you can't beat Roy. I think heart Disease beat Roy. Y.
- 44:20Speaker 2: I'm going with Roy. And I also like it the
- 44:22Speaker 2: fact that they play it in dumb and.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Dumber, Yes, yes, all right?
- 44:25Speaker 2: Are you ready for our final cover?
- 44:28Speaker 1: When this episode went by fast?
- 44:30Speaker 2: It did it's supposed to, though, I mean our live
- 44:33Speaker 2: studio owners can't sit here forever being quiet, trying not
- 44:36Speaker 2: to laugh.
- 44:37Speaker 1: All right, I think you're gonna see a pattern here too.
- 44:39Speaker 9: Okay, get away and then it's almost.
- 44:57Speaker 1: No, it doesn't seem to.
- 45:03Speaker 7: I think of us.
- 45:10Speaker 1: Do you recognize this song? All right?
- 45:13Speaker 2: That is a song that Emmy actually wanted to include
- 45:15Speaker 2: in her top ten a couple of weeks ago, and
- 45:18Speaker 2: I told her to hold it off and keep it
- 45:19Speaker 2: at eleven because we would be playing it as the
- 45:23Speaker 2: number one cover here on this episode, and so I
- 45:27Speaker 2: made her hold it back, but that probably would have
- 45:29Speaker 2: been in her top ten. That is I Think We're
- 45:32Speaker 2: Alone Now by Tiffany, originally done.
- 45:34Speaker 1: By Tommy James and the shan Dells.
- 45:37Speaker 2: I mean, is he worth like a billion dollars now?
- 45:40Speaker 2: Because apparently he was cranking out hit after hit after
- 45:43Speaker 2: hit in the sixties, and then everybody wants to cover
- 45:47Speaker 2: his songs in the eighties, except for I'm a little
- 45:49Speaker 2: upset that nobody covered Crystal Blue Persuasion because that's I
- 45:53Speaker 2: like that song is one of my favorites. So this
- 45:57Speaker 2: song by Tiffany debuted in the top forty on September
- 46:00Speaker 2: twenty sixth, nineteen eighty seven. It was on the chart
- 46:02Speaker 2: for thirteen weeks. It peaked at number one on the
- 46:05Speaker 2: Billboard Hot one hundred for two weeks, was also number
- 46:08Speaker 2: one in sales and airplay for those two weeks. Besides
- 46:11Speaker 2: reaching the top spot in the United States, it also
- 46:14Speaker 2: hit the top spot in six other countries and number
- 46:17Speaker 2: two in five more. It was the number eighteen song
- 46:21Speaker 2: of the year in nineteen eighty seven in the US
- 46:24Speaker 2: and the number five song of the year in the
- 46:26Speaker 2: UK for nineteen eighty eight. Now, in nineteen eighty seven,
- 46:29Speaker 2: you could not have convinced me that this was the
- 46:31Speaker 2: eighteenth best song of the year. I would have said
- 46:34Speaker 2: it was probably top five, if not top one.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would have agreed with you on that
- 46:42Speaker 1: back then.
- 46:43Speaker 2: So what do you have to say about miss Tiffany?
- 46:45Speaker 1: So I have al queen, No, I have something to
- 46:48Speaker 1: tell you about Tommy James.
- 46:49Speaker 2: Okay, So you're not going to talk anymore about the
- 46:51Speaker 2: Redhead other than we know our friend Jason.
- 46:55Speaker 1: I know you, sir, well, I know you're in love
- 46:56Speaker 1: with her. I don't want to talk about it. I'm
- 46:58Speaker 1: not in love with Tiffany. I was never in love
- 46:59Speaker 1: with Tiffany. I thought you were the Tiffany guy.
- 47:01Speaker 2: I chose Tiffany over Debbie Gibson. But that doesn't.
- 47:05Speaker 1: You are all about the redhead. I loved this song.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Yeah no, I love the song too, and I feel
- 47:13Speaker 1: like in some way Tiffany got cheated somehow. It was
- 47:17Speaker 1: out of her career. I don't know what happened, but
- 47:20Speaker 1: she never really did much after this.
- 47:24Speaker 2: Well, maybe she was overshadowed by Robin Sparkles.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Probably. I don't know what happened, but I feel like
- 47:32Speaker 1: she deserves a do over. I mean not now, she's
- 47:35Speaker 1: old now, but.
- 47:35Speaker 2: I mean, we really have to wonder what could have
- 47:39Speaker 2: been of Tiffany's career. Yeah we do, all right, Let's
- 47:42Speaker 2: listen to the Tommy James version.
- 48:02Speaker 6: That doesn't seem to be any one.
- 48:09Speaker 1: The beating of this is the.
- 48:11Speaker 2: Bus, all right. So I know you have some thoughts
- 48:18Speaker 2: about Tommy James. Let me give the people the beats
- 48:20Speaker 2: and then you just go into it. So this song
- 48:21Speaker 2: debut on the Top forty on March eleventh, nineteen sixty seven,
- 48:25Speaker 2: it was on the chart for twelve weeks.
- 48:27Speaker 1: It only peaked at number.
- 48:29Speaker 2: Four on the Billboard Hot one hundred. I said, only
- 48:32Speaker 2: it's a top five hit, but Tiffany had number one,
- 48:35Speaker 2: so as a top ten hit in three other countries.
- 48:37Speaker 2: It was the number twelve song of the year in
- 48:38Speaker 2: nineteen sixty seven. So in that way, you know, twenty
- 48:41Speaker 2: years before it was higher than Tiffany's. And so go
- 48:45Speaker 2: ahead with your Tommy James.
- 48:48Speaker 1: Okay, So I did a quick Google search. Tommy James,
- 48:52Speaker 1: who sold one one hundred million records, estimated in a
- 48:58Speaker 1: twenty twenty one interview that his royalty fortune was somewhere
- 49:03Speaker 1: between thirty and forty million dollars. I believe it. He
- 49:08Speaker 1: said it was difficult to get money from his record
- 49:10Speaker 1: labels because Mars Levy was a mob associate. I thought
- 49:15Speaker 1: that was interesting.
- 49:17Speaker 2: It is interesting. Thirty to forty million. Emmy, if you're listening,
- 49:21Speaker 2: you got to write us a big hit, okay, because
- 49:22Speaker 2: Daddy wants to retire at some point and Mommy has
- 49:26Speaker 2: a spending habit, and so if you're listening, write a
- 49:31Speaker 2: hit song. Because I want thirty to forty.
- 49:34Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if Mony Mony can be a hit.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Emmy can come up with something better than that.
- 49:41Speaker 2: Money money, That's what I'm thinking. Yes, I want money,
- 49:44Speaker 2: That's what i want, all right. So which version did
- 49:48Speaker 2: you hear first?
- 49:51Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I had to guess the Tommy
- 49:55Speaker 1: James version, just because that's the type of music that
- 49:59Speaker 1: my parents really listening to.
- 50:01Speaker 2: So I heard the Tiffany version first. I know that
- 50:04Speaker 2: for him, Yeah, because I know that. When I heard
- 50:06Speaker 2: the Tommy James version, I was like, this version sucks
- 50:10Speaker 2: and the Tiffany version is better. I am older now,
- 50:13Speaker 2: I am more mature now, and up until two and
- 50:17Speaker 2: a half minutes ago, I would have told you that
- 50:19Speaker 2: I like the Tiffany version better.
- 50:22Speaker 1: Well what just changed?
- 50:23Speaker 2: I just listened to the Tommy James versions. This is
- 50:27Speaker 2: brilliant music, and so I'm going down.
- 50:29Speaker 1: Brilliant, brilliant. I'm still going with Tiffany's version, Okay.
- 50:34Speaker 2: I mean it's close, it's not like it's a runaway.
- 50:36Speaker 2: It's probably a photo finish. I mean, I hope the
- 50:39Speaker 2: mom doesn't come out which one of them has the
- 50:41Speaker 2: bigger nose, Tiffany or Tommy James, because that's my winner.
- 50:44Speaker 2: You know, you win by a nose and horse racing James,
- 50:47Speaker 2: whoever has the bigger nose than is that because he's
- 50:49Speaker 2: older and our noses never quit growing. Yep, all right,
- 50:55Speaker 2: so you like the Tiffany version better. I think we
- 50:59Speaker 2: disagreed on almost everything here.
- 51:01Speaker 1: Well, that sounds about right. That'scept for pretty woman. That's
- 51:04Speaker 1: us in Crimson and Clover.
- 51:06Speaker 2: We didn't disagree on that. That's agreed, And I guess
- 51:08Speaker 2: I guess we also agreed on everyday people, yes, But
- 51:11Speaker 2: other than that we were pretty far off. So you know,
- 51:14Speaker 2: I'm a nerd. I've got stats. Let me give the
- 51:16Speaker 2: final stats fifteen half. Here, we have five number ones
- 51:20Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties and five in the previous decades
- 51:24Speaker 2: as well. All of them spent a total of twenty
- 51:28Speaker 2: eight weeks at the top spot on various US charts.
- 51:31Speaker 2: We also have number ones in forty five countries. Now,
- 51:37Speaker 2: if we're just talking the nineteen eighties, we had a
- 51:39Speaker 2: song from nineteen eighty, We had two from eighty two,
- 51:42Speaker 2: one from eighty three, and four from eighty seven. Apparently
- 51:45Speaker 2: eighty seven was the year of the covers. You know
- 51:47Speaker 2: what else was in eighty seven? What George Harrison's Got
- 51:49Speaker 2: My Mindset on You, which was also a cover.
- 51:54Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're right.
- 51:56Speaker 2: So apparently eighty seven was the year of the covers.
- 52:00Speaker 1: Jitals.
- 52:01Speaker 2: So there were six songs in the nineteen sixties, one
- 52:04Speaker 2: in the fifties, and one in the seventies. I know,
- 52:05Speaker 2: we said we were going to stick to the fifties
- 52:07Speaker 2: and sixties, but I just had to go lean on
- 52:09Speaker 2: me because it's so popular in nineteen eighty seven.
- 52:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah too.
- 52:16Speaker 2: All right, So I guess that wraps us up here
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- 53:14Speaker 2: We want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving. Oh absolutely,
- 53:18Speaker 2: as this episode will be dropping the day before Thanksgiving,
- 53:22Speaker 2: So if you're old like us, you're probably not going
- 53:26Speaker 2: to go out partying on Wednesday nights like I did
- 53:27Speaker 2: in my twenties and thirties, and then eat a nice,
- 53:31Speaker 2: big fat hangover meal the next day, because if you
- 53:34Speaker 2: did that, you probably wouldn't be able to get out
- 53:35Speaker 2: of bed. So sleep well, folks, and then eat a
- 53:39Speaker 2: nice big Thanksgiving meal.
- 53:41Speaker 1: And then get ready for the Black Friday deals.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Yes, you can't go wrong with them. Do people go
- 53:48Speaker 2: to brick and mortar stores anymore? They just do it
- 53:50Speaker 2: all online.
- 53:50Speaker 1: I just do it all online. But I think some
- 53:52Speaker 1: people still that is fun.
- 53:54Speaker 2: It used to be fun to wake up at five
- 53:55Speaker 2: am on Black Friday and go hit the door opener deals.
- 53:59Speaker 2: I know ruined it by opening up on Thanksgiving and
- 54:02Speaker 2: all that stuff, making people open up on Thanksgiving. So
- 54:07Speaker 2: all right, I guess that concludes us now.
- 54:09Speaker 1: Okay, well until next time, and I'm Lindsay we are
- 54:13Speaker 1: children of the eighties.
- 54:15Speaker 2: I like how you slowed it down there at the end.