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More than Enough Sports · 4 The Exchange

• GoFredo: What's going on? It's funny exchange. It's Mr. Big Bite himself, Gofredo. And I got later done with with boy, you can't boy listen, y'all. Hey, hey, at least she honored the bet to a certain extent. To a certain to a certain Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: extent. To a certain extent. But we Amazon LayTheDon: Lame Amazon. Lame Amazon. GoFredo: Hey, yeah, but we don't blame Amazon, though. Amazon, we we ordered the shirt and it didn't come in. So she was creative with it and she made it happen. And then we got my partner here, Kev. How you doing? That man got his got his Giants gear on. I'll see you. I'll see you over there celebrating that celebrating your victory. And you get Hey, one and Kev: I mean, you I'm feeling good. Anytime you beat Dallas, you gotta feel good. GoFredo: one, hey, one and all the division got you feeling real good. Hey, Kev: I mean GoFredo: but before we get too too crazy, go we before we get into the Dallas conversation, man, we're gonna start the show off with that Michigan, Western Michigan game in week one. Now man, listen. That's a lot of controversy around that game. They added another second. Was it a second? Was it not a second? Before I get to my takeaway, what do you think about that game? Like when it comes to them adding a second, not add- them adding a second to the game. Was it a second? Was it not a second? What's your intake on that or your input on that? LayTheDon: well technology obviously sucks. and the fact that one camera angle view where shows there ain't no seconds left, and then there's another camera view where it shows one second left, like that basically proves that technology ain't ish. but yes, that right. Trying GoFredo: You can say it, you can say it. I share it. I you can say it. LayTheDon: to be trying to be friend family friendly here, okay. GoFredo: Okay, I get you. Ain't no kids watching this. LayTheDon: F the P. But anyway, so GoFredo: Ha ha ha LayTheDon: yeah, I that that one second that one second is the only reason why they won that game. And honestly, I I honestly think I would have challenged that for real. I definitely would have like GoFredo: You can't though. LayTheDon: that. I mean you can't not challenge it as like the the coaches, but I mean like as far as the the college football like system goes, like if we gotta depend on on technology to For for this is a this is a real serious like situation. Like this is this money on the line for situations like this. So like depending GoFredo: I'll give you that. LayTheDon: on technology, to for something like this, like that's that's a that that literally makes it break somebody's pockets right there. It makes it break the the the records. Like I would have challenged like as a as a unit, I would have challenged I would have challenged it as far as within the freaking college football like over it because I just I just don't think like that one second is literally the only reason why they won. Without that one second, they would have lost. GoFredo: Hey, look. I ain't gonna lie to you I don't know why I ate a decided eating starburst right now. But I don't know what I was thinking. LayTheDon: With a burst in your mouth. GoFredo: No, you know when you biting into it, now now my mouth all watered and what I can't get the words out. LayTheDon: It it bur it burst in your mouth. I said what I said. GoFredo: what I'll say. Kev: Ha GoFredo: Hey excuse me. But Gail, so so I what I will say late is that excuse me y'all. What I will say is Western Michigan did like Western Michigan, the dean, the school, they they actually the Mac the the commissioner the Mac did try to go out to the NCAA N C double A, excuse me, y'all, go out to the NCAA to kinda get them to see what they can do. The NCAA came out, I believe it was last weekend. Or somewhere along the l lines that said that there's nothing they can do about it, that the wrong call was made, X, Y, and Z, but ain't LayTheDon: y si GoFredo: nothing you can do about it. But Kev, what's your take on it? Excuse me. Kev: Man, it's it's it's one of them things. Lei made it made she hit it right on the nose what I was gonna say. it's one of them things where technology It's one of them things where I'll say it like this, is technology helping or hurting the game at this point? Because back in the day we didn't have you know, you didn't have all this. So that, you know, all this instant replay, things like that, it was just a call. If the call was made and the call stood, you know what I mean? And it w GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: we had a place we were reviewing it ten times to make a bad decision. You know, and and I think that's the that's the frustrating part. When you you know, when you gotta make that kind of call and a especially in a close game like that. but what I will say about that game is is this. If I'm if I'm Michigan, am I now looking at my offense like, all right, like I don't I don't think this is this is what we were supposed to be. You know what I mean? When the game is that close. I don't think, bro. GoFredo: Yeah. True that, true that. You wanna be honest with you? So I got a different take on it. So I'm a little different on it. So you know, I played the game, you played the game. Hey y'all, I don't know if y'all notice even Lay played the game of football. Like we all suited up before. And so what I will say is this, my my take on it's a little bit different, I do believe, because now I know like like you said, it was a point in time we used to get mad at the refs because they missed calls. And it was games that ha it was ha it was games that we lost or things are happening. So then they bought replay in to kind of fix some of those human errors. And now we at the point to where the ref's not even making the decisions anymore. Like now it's like it's a decision at a replay center and they making a decision and now the ref's getting blamed for it. So you got that. So I'm with you on that. I think now it's like it it's one of those give or take because you know back then they used to complain about refs making bad calls. So now we here. So that that stems from, you know, ROGs and how it was everybody complaining about the game and losing bets to now that we are here and they just and to be honest with you, I honestly think it's gonna get to a point where, before I get into my take, I honestly think it's gonna be get to a point where, you know, everything is gonna be tech like just in technology. The game itself, like they already got I don't know, I y'all see it in football in the NFL to where they got like it's it's a little gadget or some type of device in the ball now to let you know if it's first down or not. Like they don't even really do measurements like that no more. Like it's all digital. I saw they did it last night in the 49ers in the 40, I'm LayTheDon: Yeah, you think GoFredo: not 49ers Rams, Giants game. They did it last night on the Winston, on the Winston QBC. Yeah. LayTheDon: Game, yeah. I saw that for the first time. I was like, what that was a digital a digital frog account. Kev: Yeah. LayTheDon: I didn't see that. Some new shit. Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: Yeah. They didn't even show the replay. They literally just showed the ball being across the line and whatnot. And I was like, so LayTheDon: It's modern. GoFredo: how do we know that Winston even made it? Like, who to say this is right? Like who to say this is right? But LayTheDon: Yeah. I saw that yesterday. I thought I was hot. I might have been hot, but yeah, that I ain't GoFredo: Ha ha ha ha ha. LayTheDon: never s I ain't never seen that before in my life. I'm like, bro, what are we doing? Like we this we depending on that? GoFredo: Yeah, they've been doing it for a while. You only see it there once in a while, but I seen it, I seen it yesterday, and I'm glad I seen it yesterday because I know everybody noticed it because it was it was a key point in the game too, to where it was just like, LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: wait a minute, hold on now. And so you got to see it, and I was confused, but back to the Michigan, Western Michigan game. What I will say for me, man, it's nowhere Hail Mary should've happened again. Like it's no not again. It's no Mary that Hail Mary should've happened in the first place. Like, like I get what everybody's saying. Don't get me wrong. Is it one second? Is it not one second? But it wasn't like it was a QB sneak on the one yard line. We're talking about a Hail Mary play. Like, in my mind, if I LayTheDon: Teo Mary. GoFredo: stop the Hail Mary one time, the key in my mind is to stop it again. Like, I play DB. Like, people don't know this. I play safety. I play corner. Like, like guys that I play high school with, they'll know like the key is to get back as far as possible. Like, I even I got guys that'll tell you straightforward, like it's a play in my high school career where it was a half. We was going into the half and they threw a bomb and I misjumped the ball and whatnot. A dude caught it. But you can't blame nobody but yourself in that way. You can't blame so I I I say that to say I can't blame the the rest for adding a second. I mean I can. I I can. Let me not say that that I can't, but in between the white lines. You had one second on the clock to stop them from throwing a bomb, and you did it. And he caught Kev: Mm. GoFredo: and and then the the the guy went up. I think he liked 6'6. The guy that the that the he's a transfer, I can't remember his name, but he likes 6'6, caught a bomb and he scored a touchdown. To me, that can't happen. That that just can't happen. As a coach, I'm just like, I understand you want to get mad. I understand you want to get upset because you just beat Michigan. It's a big game and everything like that. And Let's be honest. You wanna blame somebody. That's all it is. You just wanna blame somebody because the game was Kev: Free. GoFredo: over. In my mind, that bomb shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't have been caught. It should have been another deflected pass and it should have gone from there. So that's me. And and to to Kev's point, now when you look at Michigan, because I don't know if people know this, if they've been paying attention, Michigan went out and beat Oklahoma week two. And then they just won this last weekend. So now Michigan three and So now it was just like Okay, you may have escaped, but they played a top fifteen team in Oklahoma and won. Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: I mean, they went and handled business. And then now Bryce Underwood is seeming to start to get a little comfortable within the system, which is good because you know you paid this man ten million dollars. l the rumors is you paid him ten million dollars, which is boy, hey boy, listen. Hey boy. Hey, hey, Kev: Okay. GoFredo: listen, we are old enough. Life would be so different if we was born in this NIL era. Life would be so different for us if we Kev: There's GoFredo: was born in this NIL era. But but they gave that LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: man they gave that man that bag though. Kev: Hey bro, we we still got some eligibility. GoFredo: Hey, I still got at least two. I still got at least two left in the tank. Hey, hey, I don't know if you peeping. It's a lot of these older guys, what is it, Oklahoma or some school down south. Got a 46-year-old guy playing like defensive line or something like that. Somewhere Kev: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: down, either down south on the West Coast. He like 46 years old playing defensive line and whatnot. Hey, man, I hey, boy, I still got LayTheDon: Wow. GoFredo: it. Give me a summer. Give me a summer to get it in shape. That's all I need. I get back out there. LayTheDon: My knees ain't got it. My knees ain't got it. I'm be ready with my knees ain't got it. GoFredo: You say you done ski huh. LayTheDon: I'm a I'm a water girl. I'm a I will happily be a water girl. I'm goosey. I I can't run nowhere. GoFredo: But that's my that's my only that's LayTheDon: If it's not to the money, I'm not running. GoFredo: I got I got two years left in my I got two years left in the tank to go get me a meal Hey LayTheDon: You gotta hold it. GoFredo: look hey look you know what Kev: Yeah quick mail, quick mail I do. GoFredo: let me not let me not even play Kevin Leigh you throw a hundred bands my way I'm s I I got you. I got you I got you I got you man I'll be the sixth D B on the depth chart I don't even need to be out there I don't need to be out there. I did my time. I'm just here for the check at this point. LayTheDon: Say six fixes already. Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: I'm here for the check and the love of game. Yeah, let me stop playing. The competitor in me ain't gonna go for that. I still gotta get out of the competitive in me and gonna never go out for that. LayTheDon: be a I might do some practice squad. I might I might be do some practice squad. GoFredo: for sure. For sure. I might, hey, I might pull LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: a Brandon Wheaton. Get to the lead. You know? You LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: know, Jerry likes to sign anybody. You know, I might be able to get me out there. I might jerry Jerry. LayTheDon: Right. GoFredo: Jerry love a story. Jerry loves a good story. But no. Hey. LayTheDon: Oala. GoFredo: Let me leave the Cowboys alone. But sticking there, but sticking there staying with the college, with the college gangs and what excuse me, sticking with the college sector. College games that we seen. let's get into week two. It's a game that's it's a game that was they was talked about since last year. They was building it up. There's been a lot of hoopla about it. The LSU and Ole Miss game. Everybody was talking about how LSU was gonna blow Ole Miss out. It was gonna get they was gonna handle business and go from there. Kev, let me let me start with you. What's your take on that LSU Old Miss game? Kev: Man, listen. well first I'm gonna say this. This is one of them things when anytime you see a legit top ten matchup, I mean it's exciting. I don't care who it is, it's gonna be GoFredo: Yes. Kev: exciting. But listen, when you when you come in the underdog and you give me 24 points in the in the first half of the game, that's that speaks volumes right there. That speaks GoFredo: Boy. Kev: volumes about what old Miss is bringing. now LSU they they did come back a little they they did, you know, come back a little bit, but you know, old miss just They ain't fold, man. They just didn't fold, man. Yeah, GoFredo: Yeah they did. Kept their foot on their neck. Kev: the whole game. They really did the whole game. I mean, I I think it's one of those, especially early on, when you get that type of matchup, it's just exciting. This was that game that said college football is back. So I was, I mean, that was an exciting game, man. Lee, what you what you thinking? LayTheDon: First of all, I should bet. I should have put some money on that game. I'm just gonna put it out there because I had the ticket for Ole Miss winning. But because I was in the state of Alabama and you GoFredo: Roll Tat. LayTheDon: can't return apps, I couldn't bet. But boy, GoFredo: Rolls hat. LayTheDon: I would have had some money. I would have had some money. But LSU being such a great team with all the greats that has come out of freaking LSU. Like you everybody has high hopes for LSU. Like, yeah. freaking Shaquille O'Neal, you guys, like all of J who's it? Burrow, I think came from LSU. Like a lot of them came from LSU. You there's always high hopes. So anytime LSU goes down, LS every time anytime LSU folds, it's like, damn, like, are y'all really that good for real? And GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: I'm just like. Yeah. They've d the way they was struggling, the way they were struggling, like they tried. They were struggling. Like they was they was literally O miss was putting belt to ass. They was they was putting belt to ass. Miss was putting belt to ass. GoFredo: No, you want to be honest with you, so I got some stats. I think LSU problem right now. So I just want to let everybody know the final score. I should have said this earlier. The final score of the game was 32-24. Ole Miss went down. It's they like Kev said, LSU was able to tie the game up. It went twenty-four to twenty-four. Ole Miss was able to go down, score, and I what shocked me, Ole Miss went for two. That going for two was very, very gutsy. Very gutsy. Because LSU all they need to do is score a touchdown. But to get the two point conversion, that pressure just goes to LSU, and now all of a sudden, and you're away, everything's going on. So you just change the whole momentum of game. But to me, the problem is the quarterback. The quarterback play to me changed everything. Sam Levant, he went 16 for 27. 158 yards. He had one touchdown, one pick. he averaged six yards of pass. You can't you can't win the game that way. Now, don't get me wrong, he was able to rush the he was able to rush. I got the stats here. He he was able to get sixty three rushing yards and a touchdown. To me, he was more it was like L I mean LSU, I'm sorry, it like old miss just had him nervous the whole game. Like it he just looked like he couldn't get comfortable in the game at all. Like it was one pass he threw and it was almost like like Kev: Okay. GoFredo: I don't know if y'all did track, but you know like the what is it, shot put where they like throwing it like this and they lift LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: off off their leg. It was one pass where the guy was coming across the middle and he just like pushed the ball and the ball just went too far. It was like a third down. And you just can't do that. To me, LSU just got a quarterback problem right now. getting getting a quarterback that's a little bit more confident in the system. And kind of going from there, I gotta give a shout out to Trinidad Chandless. That man, that brother went off. Hey, listen. My man's had that man's went 33 for 48 for 363 yards and two touchdowns. He threw a pick coming out of the second half, but man, listen, I I just can't speak highly enough about that kid. That that young man is amazing. Like the what he was able to do on the field, I literally was telling my brother, if LSU was with Lane Kiffin. Would have been able to get Trinidad trailers to LSU, I think we'll be talking about LSU completely different. I honestly think that. but what I did want to ask you guys about staying in that game is the big hype around it with Lane Kiffin leaving, things that was happening. My thing is, like Kev said, it was a big game 'cause of a top 10 matchup. It's an SEC matchup. I I I'm not I'm not I'm not a hundred percent sure. I'm not big on the LSU and Ole Miss schools and whatnot. I'm not sure if it's a rivalry, but like I said, I know it was big matchup. but I think the game was bigger than what it was because of Lane Kiffen. And I ain't gonna lie to I can't I ain't gonna lie to you. Like as a grown man, like I'm not a s I'm I understand like as a young twenty one, twenty two year old you feel a certain type of way. But as a grown man that I am today, I can't even be mad at Lane Kiffin. I can't be mad that you left Ole Miss for LSU. Like, we talked about LSU. Like, no disrespect to Ole Miss. What so I'm LayTheDon: The same you left. GoFredo: I'm not disrespecting them at all, but I'm stating facts. We're talking about LSU. Like, LSU has a bag. I think they got a $40 million roster, if I'm not mistaken. Like, hey, hey, hey, fans, let me know. Like, fact check fact-check me in the in the comments when this video dropped. Let me know. I'm pretty sure it's a 40 million, forty, thirty to forty million dollar roster they got. And I'm happy. Don't get me wrong. Be happy that you want. But can't will you be able to beat Lane Kiffin next year? Will you be able to be able to beat Kev: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: him in the year after that? Because this roster that you get is Lane Kiffin's roster. So will you be able to keep building on that and keep going and keep going from there? Because the one thing about LSU, they're gonna always recruit good. They're gonna always have them a top 10, top 15 recruiting class. They're gonna always be have the bag to go get whoever they want. And now you got a coach that can really coach. Like, you got an offensive coordinator that know what he's doing. Like, I'm happy for you, but as a businessman, I understand why you leave. That's like, you know, LSU and Alabama. That's that's a that's that's teams in the SEC that you don't just pass up. Texas, you know, teams like that give you a call. You just don't miss those opportunities. I understand what he did at Ole Miss, but to me, hey man. If if LSU calling me, I gotta go. I got hello, what you need? you say you got a bag? you said I got 40 million to play with a class too? Yeah, I gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta I gotta go. I gotta. That's just my that's just my thing on that. Kev: That's facts. That's facts. That's facts. You you know you know you know what it is though? You you know what it really is though? It i it's one of them it's one of them areas where, to your point, no, you 100% correct. When you get that call, I mean you gotta take it. The problem is people are looking at him going, did he leave before they got a chance to be great? And I think GoFredo: Okay. Kev: that's what the problem is. GoFredo: You wanna be honest with you? I LayTheDon: Bene. GoFredo: can give you that, but at the same time, and like I said, y'all know me, I'm not a hater. I'm as as I try to be as real as possible and state facts. All of us been we've been living on this earth for a good minute. We're talking about LSU and old miss here. Let's be honest. Like, if LSU call as a head coach, you're leaving. It's no disrespect. Especially in this NIL era. Like, especially now, Kev: yeah. GoFredo: like the boosters that LSU got, the players that they got, like, come on, man. Like, I know Oma's got players on their roster, but you telling me, okay, I can come be Joe Burrow. I can come meet Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Patrick Peterson, Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: the honey badger, like, come on, man. Like, Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: come on, man. I know, I know it's some things going on at LSU with Jaden Daniels and his number five, but before all that stuff went down, when before all that stuff happened, you could have met Jaden Daniels, Malik neighbors. Come on now. Like, it's like I said, there's no disrespect. But if I'm a young player going, that stuff is so appealing to me to go do that. Who who wouldn't want to go to LSU and wear a number seven? Everybody know what number seven. LSU, you know, if you wear number seven, you're a dog. You you fall into that tradition. You almost guaranteed to go to the league by wearing number seven. So that that's just me. Like that's just me. Like it I understand it. It's you know for the kids. But people don't understand as well that I will say before we move into our next segment. Another thing I know people don't understand is that the NCAA and the rules that they got in place also push Lane Kevin a lot of them mad because he didn't coach the bowl game. But a lot of people not don't aren't educated enough to understand that the way the NCAA is set up, he almost had to leave. Or he would have missed out on recruits. He would have missed out on certain things. The recruit window is is so is narrow. So he gotta lead and start building his team. But you know, shout out to Ole Miss for winning though. You know, y'all did y'all thing, y'all handled y'all business. Kudos to y'all, y'all got a good roster. All our old miss fans that's gonna watch this. Like I said, I'm not hating. Shout out to y'all. But my thing is if you gonna talk crazy, make sure you talk crazy next year. That's just me. That's just how that's just what I stand on. So, because he, you know, that's just what it is. But we're gonna get into that next segment though, because this is a good one. We're gonna transition over to the NFL. And that mean and you know what that means? We're getting closer and closer to that Cowboys and Giants game. We getting closer and close. But we're gonna say that though. We ain't gonna get into it right now. When we're gonna talk about lay, I wanna kick it to you. I wanna kick it to you with about Week one and two upsets. Like, what was your biggest upset in the last two weeks of watching watching the NFL? LayTheDon: so my biggest upset for week one, I'm gonna go Detroit and the Saints. Because Detroit's defense was was crazy last year and and it hadn't GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: been a long time. And the fact that the Saints held them into overtime was like, is the Saints actually good or Detroit is really like falling behind right now? And and that Next week over some another team that we talk about week two, my other my biggest upset there was the Baltimore Ravens. GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: And my thing is to be honest, there was a lot of we call them good teams that won and law that won or or lost that wasn't supposed to in week one and one two to the point where I feel like that I need to change my Super Bowl lineup because all the teams I had as Super Bowl contenders lost week one and week two. GoFredo: Yeah. Now are you saying 'cause the Lions the Lions ultimately won that game, but are you saying upset to the point LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: where you thought the Lions was gonna blow the Saints out? Is that what you're saying? I Okay. Okay. I agree. I agree. That game was a lot. LayTheDon: Yes. Yes. That's what I mean by the I'm gonna say, I mean, yes, you got upset. There's a lot of a couple of upset wins, but as far as upset as far as what from what the Detroit was last year, so how GoFredo: Okay. LayTheDon: they played and performed that game, I was just confused. Y'all let the Saints hold y'all to OT. And some of a a lot of people GoFredo: I think they was up by twenty. LayTheDon: have Detroit in their top three as far as who's going GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: to the Super Bowl. GoFredo: I if I'm not mistaken, I didn't mean to cut you off. I think they was up by like twenty though. LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: Or twenty one not I'm sorry, not twenty. But they had like a a nice a nice lead. A nice good lead. And the Saints just came roaring back. So I agree with you. That that threw me off too, I ain't gonna lie. LayTheDon: And it's the saints. GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: It's the saints. GoFredo: Are are they real? Are they for real? LayTheDon: They bow they bow as low as the Raiders and explain to me why the Raiders are 2 10. GoFredo: But the ra I was just finna say the Raiders two and I and they don't even got their number one target. LayTheDon: That's why I'm confused. GoFredo: They don't even got Brock Bower. LayTheDon: script. I don't know who wrote the script this year, but they need to rewrite this. GoFredo: Hollywood, Hollywood LayTheDon: This they need to rewrite this shit. GoFredo: Hollywood. It's it's it's week two though. So like the season just started. We've seen this a couple of times with teams to catch a you know, Kev: Yeah, exactly. GoFredo: catch good teams lacking and whatnot, but can you be able to sustain it? Yeah, so I give you I give you that. Kev, what about you? What upsets did you have? what what was games that that that shocked you that was upsetting to you that was that was upsetting to you? Well you know what I'm trying to say. I can't he spit the words out. I'm gonna take a sip. Go ahead, bro. Kev: You know, I'ma answer week one, week one and week two with with this one. I'm a little disappointed in what the Chargers are doing, man. They owing two to start. I don't think anybody saw I I don't think anybody saw that happening. and to Lee's point, you know, them I'ma say this, them Raiders looking good. Them Raiders looking good right now. Them Raiders are looking good. But I think, you GoFredo: Yes they are. Yes they are. Kev: know, And I don't wanna jump into a criticism, but I think it's time we gotta talk about it. What's the next step for Justin Herbert? Because he's been in the league for a little minute now. And you know, it's it's been a little it's been a little quiet for bro. GoFredo: Hey, you wanna be honest with you? so I'm gonna so before I say actually, you know what? Because I've been meaning to talk about this guy, so I'm I'm gonna just get I'm gonna just dive right into it. I'm getting tired, I'm getting sick and tired of the pass that they've been giving Justin Herbert. And I like hey, I like him. I like him. I think he's a good quarterback. He's a good pro Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: what the as they call it, the prototypical quarterback. He's he's tall, Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: he got he got the arm, he's agile. But how many times we gonna keep giving him passes? How many times we gonna keep giving him excuses? Like, what else? He didn't have tar he didn't have receivers. Well, he did have receivers at one point. well, he was young. now he don't got receivers. now he don't got a defense. But he did like, how Kev: Okay. GoFredo: many times are we gonna keep giving him excuses? Like I I tell my brother, I tell people all the time, the passes that that that mainstream sports media gives Justin Herbert is insane to me. Like he continually Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: like we we went and got you a coach. We got a hardball. We got a good quarterback coach for you. And you Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: still can't seem that we still can't get you to reach your potential. He's not young anymore. Like I seen something the other day. I was on on Facebook and they was talking about Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts. And why does Jalen Hurts get criticized more than Justin Herbert? When all Jalen Hurst does is win. And he because he doesn't look Kev: Mm-hmm. Exactly. GoFredo: like the prototypical quarterback. But it's like, Kev: Mm. GoFredo: so people seem to forget that Jalen Hurst has been as two Super Bowls. Jalen Hurst outperformed Patrick Mahomes in both Super Bowls. This is facts, not opinion. Kev: Mm. GoFredo: He beat him in one Super Bowl, and he's and and he's a Super Bowl champion and a Super Bowl MVP. But we Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: just seem to keep, people just keep to seeing. Like people love to keep just keep bashing hurts every single chance they get. I know me and you was talking about that last week, yeah. People love to just keep throwing, keep throwing stones, keep throwing stones, keep throwing stones. Like one of the c one of the teams that they was playing was like, all you gotta do is keep him in the pocket. And then you keep him in the pocket and he lights you up. And now you ain't got no answer for it. But when you play Justin Kev: Hm. GoFredo: Herbert, don't nobody say that about him. Don't nobody say, keep me in the pocket. Don't nobody do none of that. It's just I'm just getting sick. I honestly. Yeah, I had to go on that little rant, man, because I'm getting sick and tired of the passes that he be getting. I swear I don't. You already know that's what it is, Lei. You already know that you already know that's what it is. They asked Dan Orlowski that the other day, and he was just LayTheDon: my gosh, it's not. GoFredo: he was, hey, look, we know it was how they say it was understood, don't need to be explained. I saw the match Dan Orlowski. Why Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: does he not like Jalen, Jalen Hurts? And he was just like, no, I am a fan of Jalen Hurts. You know, he showed me some things, this, that, and the third. And it was just like, now he's a fan. But at the same time, he still continu everybody still, him, so many other people still continue to give Justin Herbert a pass. And I'm getting tired of it. I'm honestly getting upset with it. Kev: But but I'm like, it's it's week two. My man is already three picks deep. My man GoFredo: Come on, bro. Kev: already threw three picks in week two. Come on. GoFredo: Come on, bro. Should at least be one and one. At least be wait, who did they play? They played Hold on. Cause somebody. Kev: they played the Cardinals. They played the Cardinals. GoFredo: They played what, the Raiders and the Cardinals, right? Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: Come on bro. Come on bro. Kev: And he was and he was relatively weak against the Cardinals. LayTheDon: Yeah. I was really right there. GoFredo: You lost to no disrespect. LayTheDon: But we wasn't really playing. Yeah. GoFredo: No disrespect, but you lost to you lost to so I got it right here. They lost week two. They played the Raiders. They lost 26 to 14. And week one, they went against Arizona, lost 26 to 14. So in two games, Justin or the Chargers offense only was able to put up 28 points. And Justin Herbert has one touchdown in each game. One touchdown, one one touchdown, and one pick in week one. And actually, Justin Herbert only got one touchdown. he got two. Yeah, two touchdowns and th and three picks. That's what he got so Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: far. So I'm I'm I'm getting tired of him getting his passes. Because let's be honest, if the Eagles, Kansas City, the Ravens. Would have lost to the Arizona Cardinals and the Raiders, we would still be talking about it. Kev: They got lit up. They got lit up for it. GoFredo: We would have been we would we would have been cooking them. Like, come on, man. Like, what we doing here? But before we move into our next segment, I just want to say my number one upset. It was it took over b two weeks for me, the Saints and the Ravens. I got high hopes for the Ravens. I think I just I that that game shocked me. It goes back to the point maybe the ra maybe the Saints are real. Like we'll have to see how the season progress. But to beat the Ravens. To to to go toe in toe with the Lions and then to come back week two and being beat the Ravens. After the Ravens was actually winning. The Saints came back late in the second half to secure that victory. Amen. I gotta give credit where credit was due. And I I will say the the Ravens are down Zay Flowers. So we have transitioned that into injuries. Injuries Kev: Yeah, that's true. That's true. GoFredo: is crazy right now. You got Zay Flowers, Miles Garrett. Dart, I just saw that they're talking about he might be gone for the year. You know, what's what's going on? Kev: Yeah, they say it might be seasoning surgery. LayTheDon: I didn't know. GoFredo: Jaden Daniels is gone. Caleb Williams has got got hamstring. Hey man, Kev, I'm gonna bring I'm gonna I'm gonna flip it back to you. And then we'll go ahead and talk to Lay. Injuries, man. What's your what's your take on these injuries that's happening so far? Kev: Ooh, man. I think the one that caught me off guard week one was Miles Garrett. I just think that was a huge deal in the the Aaron Donald return. now I will say this, that defense, the defense still looks alright. I'm not, you know, GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: I'm not I'm I'm not you know disappointed. I'm not disappointed in their performance. but I think think for the team for the fans I think we were looking forward to seeing that to seeing what that duo really does. GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: now I will say and again injuries I mean they they're down a receiver right now so they're not their offense isn't even flowing the way it really needs to anyway. GoFredo: Yeah, poker's now. Kev: I can say yeah, yeah, that's a big deal. That's a big deal for them. but man these the there's some big injuries that happened across the board. Man, how you I asked, how how you feeling in Chicago, man? That's that's that's tough. Now I don't think he does a season GoFredo: Amen. That's the Amen. Kev: ender, but a couple weeks. GoFredo: Hey, before I give my take on that, we gonna kick it to Lei, 'cause y'all know I'm gonna have to I I I it was it was some things I seen that it threw me off. It threw me off. But so before before I before I deep dive into that, 'cause I ain't gonna lie, I was a little it it it it threw me off, I ain't gonna lie. I was a couple of things that went through my mind when Kayla went down, but I'm gonna let Lay go with her injury for her injury her injury report. Go ahead, Lei. LayTheDon: I don't know what they putting in the gator raid or the water or whatever you want to call it, but the fact that GoFredo: Talk about the Gatorade. LayTheDon: they have been dropping like fly. You got week Kev: Like flash. LayTheDon: one, you got Jamar Chase, you got freaking Sam Darnold, you got AJ Brown, all went down week one. GoFredo: yeah, yeah. LayTheDon: Jamar Chase actually referred was was was good for week two, but then you had DJ Moore, you had Jaden Daniels, you had freaking Caleb Williams. Like, I know Vegas. was was rich this past weekend because everybody's parlays went down for injuries. Kev: yeah. GoFredo: Yeah. For sure they did. LayTheDon: I'm down nine hundred and eighty-one dollars cause some injuries. GoFredo: you saying you would have won. I'm I'm thinking you I'm thinking you sh you put nine hundred I'm thinking, Hey LayTheDon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. GoFredo: boy. LayTheDon: Nah, I only I only put down like thirty. But then what should you pay out with nine hundred and eighty one done? I ain't I didn't lose GoFredo: Hey, I was about to Hey, I was about to say you know LayTheDon: thirty, I lost nine hundred and eighty one. That's how y'all look at it. GoFredo: You know that that that 800 number? That 800 number? I was just about to say you lost $900. That 800 number, when they say you got a gambling problem, you might have to call them. LayTheDon: Y'all boy, I I I I Kev: Yeah. LayTheDon: played 30. I supposed to won 981, but because the injuries, GoFredo: yeah. LayTheDon: I lost 981. Kev: Yeah, now these GoFredo: Okay. Kev: injuries are serious. LayTheDon: That man is Matthew. Don't don't don't come for my that math is Matthew. GoFredo: That b You already cashed that check. I see now, my bad. You already cashed that check. LayTheDon: But yeah, GoFredo: Hey you what LayTheDon: like I don't like I don't think I've ever seen as long as I've been watching football like and it's not like, you know, regular like it's not like I'm not gonna say regular players, like it's not like a bunch of rookies. It's it's big known players that are dropping. GoFredo: It's the stars. Kev: Mm-hmm and early. And early. This is early. LayTheDon: We only all weight two. GoFredo: You you want to be honest with you Lay and Kill? LayTheDon: So I'm gonna get who GoFredo: No, I was gonna say I I think it's the way it's the way it's the way we it's the way they play football now. Like remember, two-a-days used to start like training camp and two of days you start back in July, early June. They only they don't start until August now trying to protect players. And then some teams don't even play like I know the Chargers, John I mean, the Harbaugh was like I probably should have played my guys in the preseason game. We've the way cause because when they lost week one, I saw our interview where he was like, We play like it was a preseason game. I probably should have had my guys play the preseason. And I know I seen Brady, you know, he was talking about, you know, guys used to play at least the first half of the preseason game. And then you your starters played the whole final preseason game to get you ready for the the season. Now you got it to the point like these guys are getting into game speed, game action. week one on game day and like you you just these freak accidents gonna happen more and more because you got like like you said it used to be the the rookies the young guys the guys that's not playing that used to hurt themselves and then you had certain injuries because of hits but now you seeing more like non-contact injuries like more injuries just coming out of nowhere and that was just like man are these guys taking care of their body or what's going on but like I'm with you like It's so many stars getting hurt. But it's so crazy because I seen somebody say this the other day, like that next man up mentality. Like, yes, we losing stars, but it opens up the door for future stars to kind of get into the gap. But at the same time, hey man, I pay money. If I'm Washington, I pay money to see Jaden Daniels. No disrespect. If I if I'm if Kev: Uh-huh. GoFredo: I'm the Giants, I pay money to see Jackson Dart, you know. Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: That's why I pay money to see here. No disrespect to Jameis Winston or I think Washington's backup is Marcus Mariota. No disrespect to them. Them highsman trophy winners. But I pay money to see the starter. Like that's why we pay our Kev: Yeah. Yeah. GoFredo: money to go see it. As you know, so I'm with I'm with I'm I'm with you, Lay. I've been noticing that the last couple years, and I think this year is is more out of hand now than ever. Like. Just in the first two weeks, we have a lot of stars now. A lot of big name stars. It's a lot Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: of money that's on it's a lot of money that's being that's being held that's not planned. Like it's not it's a lot of money. Yeah, two years in a row. Kev: Mm-hmm. And we gotta talk about this is two years in a row. This is two years in a row for some of these guys. LayTheDon: Bag. Kev: This ain't you know what I mean. If I I come over to the Giants, unfortunately, I'm already talking about my league neighbors. you know, Jackson Dart spent some time out already last year. I mean, and then he didn't start until halfway through the season anyway. You know what I mean? So so I mean, as far as like the fans, yeah, man, they ate the fans. GoFredo: Yeah. And he still left early. Cause he got hurt late in the season. Kev: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. GoFredo: Hey, you want to be honest? LayTheDon: I would really like to know. I would really GoFredo: yeah, LayTheDon: like to know. Like I would really like to see a football contract. Cause I really want to know like how much do they still get paid when your injuries is that early in the in the season? Like, cause that GoFredo: Your checks still hit once it's guaranteed. You like that guaranteed, that's why LayTheDon: Perhaps. GoFredo: you see that's why you see a lot of players like hold out and wait because guaranteed you still get paid no matter what. Like that money hits your account no matter what. Now it is restrictions. LayTheDon: Yeah, but I wanna know like how much of a difference though. That's what I wanna know. Like from what a full contract is and how much cause like for your star player with like one of the biggest contracts to go down week one, week two, like how much is that still going out? Like GoFredo: That's a good question. LayTheDon: that's that's like like could you imagine GoFredo: You still get a yeah, I'm pretty sure you get a you get a you still get your weekly, what is it? We're weekly check. I know I said that wrong. I know guaranteed you get that up fr if I'm if I can remember correctly. I have one of my homies that's in the league. I if I can remember, I think your guaranteed check, you get that up front. You get that half up front. But I with the injuries, it gotta be something in there. Cause you don't get your I forgot the add-ons. I I can't think of the incentives. You d you lose your senses immediately LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: like pretty much immediately if you gone for a long time. So I'm with you on that. That's that's but I'll you know, we have to get hey, all any of our players that's in the league, you w you watching for the exchange, give us a call. We'll bring you on the show. We got some questions that we wanna ask you. You know, let us know what's going on. Shout out to y'all. LayTheDon: Definitely. GoFredo: to transition to our next our next segment, Caleb Williams, I will say this. I got a little love hate relationship with the Bears right now. But are they still near and dead to my heart, y'all know this? I ain't gonna go too deep into it. They on punishment until twenty twenty seven in my book. But at the same time, as a as a fan of the game and sh LayTheDon: Yeah, so thank you. Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: Chicago's near and dear to my heart, seeing Caleb the way he went down. and I'm gonna be honest, the w the I'm sorry to bring it back. The way he went down and they lost nine to three, he was gonna score on that play. And he went down Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: and now of a sudden now of a sudden you're talking about a week to week injury, which is scary because it's a hamstring. Cause now and then you go from like I got it right here, you go from the Bears putting up fifty nine points against the Panthers to now going against week two and only putting up three. Like that's I I definitely had high hopes for them to do do do amazing things and mess around to win a division again. I think they I think with the Bears, You got to lean on your running game. Like week one, they rush for over 200 yards. You have to lean on a running game. I will say this, Kev. I know me and you was talking about Jalen Kev: A kudos to DeAndre Swift. GoFredo: Hurts earlier. they got they talking about Caleb Williams might come back next week, and it's just like, do I really want this man to come back and play the Eagles with a iffy hamstring? Now, what if it popped? Like the Eagles front seven for real. Like, come on, bro. The last thing you want to do is have this man running f running for his life. Like, I like the Eagles front seven. I know they made that face her Dallas Cowboys, but I'm just being honest. That front seven CS. You see LayTheDon: Na igual stenbao. Na you asked it. GoFredo: But I think I do think the I don't want to say the Bears season is is is is is in trouble. But I will have to say it, the Bears season are in trouble. Like what do Lay, what do you think about what do you think about Caleb going down the Chicago Bears, him being week to week and things? LayTheDon: I'm gonna be honest with you. I honestly think the Bears proved themselves defensively. And I'm gonna say this because they won they got they got fifty nine points last year, but it was again I mean last week. And but that was against the Panthers. So it's like all right, they played the Panthers, like Panthers ain't shit. But then you go to the Vikings GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: who actually had some defense some decent defense and y'all was able to hold them to nine points. So like GoFredo: These are offense. LayTheDon: it's like Well, I mean, yeah, that but I'm saying yeah, all they was able to hold them to nine points. What I'm saying is like y'all y'all defensively was okay first game, but y'all still score 59 points on a a trashy game, and then y'all played a defensive game and y'all was able to least hold y'all own defensively. GoFredo: I'll give you that. LayTheDon: And Vikings the Vikings were also, you know, defensive based. So it's just like they were the fact that both teams, you can definitely tell both teams are definitely defensive as hell. GoFredo: Still got the defensive mind. LayTheDon: So it's like they have the potential. The defense still has the potential to stop teams from scoring. For sure. But with Del GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: Caleb, like they gotta find, like they they gotta lean on the defense to to to make those big GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: plays. Because like I said, they just prove between week one and week two, they got defense. Their defense is decent. GoFredo: Yeah, I agree with you on that. LayTheDon: But then next week you got the Giant the the Eagles who defense is there but it ain't it ain't the greatest. But I can honestly I I can honestly say the Vikings the Vikings defense is definitely better than the Eagles. I can agree on that. I can I can I can say that. GoFredo: You wanna be You wanna be honest with you? I think I think it's more of the defensive coordinator. I gotta give a shout out to Brian Flores. I ain't gonna lie to you. What he was scheming up, the Bears was on the goal line, I think, three times and they didn't score a point. Like, they was in the red zone three times and didn't score a point. Like, I gotta get that man credit where credit is due. I don't understand why he don't have a head coaching job. I'm sorry. I do understand why he doesn't have a head coaching job. Let me bring it back. But the way he Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: can the way he can coach and the way he turned the Vikings defense around and way the way they did what they was able to do to the Chicago Bears, even because like people forget before Bayent Bajant tape whatever I can't remember if it's I wanna say whatever, but I was like, I I'm hoping I'm saying it right. before he went into the game, Caleb was in and Caleb was struggling. Like Caleb was having having issues trying to get the ball up the field, being able to stay in the pocket. So what the schemes that Brian Flores is drawing up for that defense is absolutely insane. So I gotta give credit where credit is due. So but Kev, what you thinking about Chicago, man? Like what's your take on it? Kev: I'ma say this, that's a that's an impact player for y'all in Caleb Williams, man. again, another one like I I didn't like seeing him go down this early. but you made a great point. you know, they gotta get deeper into that run game. I think I'm happy to see you know, DeAndre Swift be the guy, man. He he was phenomenal. he went for th three touchdowns. I I didn't see how many yards. I didn't see how many yards he How many yards he went for. we definitely gotta we definitely gotta pull we definitely gotta pull that up. But offensively, yeah, you guys yeah, you guys gotta get into that run game and and and really be impactful. Cause passing, I think y'all are gonna struggle. now I'll say this. going GoFredo: Yes. Kev: into into Philly, I think that's that's that's gonna be a tough matchup for you guys. Just because that pass game GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: is not is not gonna be there. now week after that you guys are going to New York. I think you guys can manage okay against the Jets. but again GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: we gotta see how serious this we gotta see how serious this injury is. we don't GoFredo: True. Kev: because the other thing is you don't want to bring him back too early. A hamstring, that's that's that's not an injury you want to play with. So you know we'll we gotta we gotta see how that's going week to week. But GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: I don't think y'all season is dead. I'll say that. I don't think it's dead. GoFredo: You want to be honest with you, I was telling my homie the other day, I actually I think it's before the season started. the way the Bears are set up, like the defense last year wasn't as stout, but they led the league in turnovers. So you was able to mask a lot of problems because you led the league in turnovers. Are you able to do that again? And if you don't lead the league in turnovers, can your defense at least be a top ten, the top fifteen defense? With Caleb being gone, you either have to be top five, top ten, or leave the league in turnovers like you did last year, or at least be a top fifteen, Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: at least a middle of the pack defense to where you can sustain things. I Kev: And then GoFredo: do think it's gonna be on to answer your question, I think Swift had a little over a hundred, a hundred I think he had 120 yards week one. I'm not sure what he had week two. but I think it's gonna they gave him his money. before the season started, so I think they're gonna have to lean on his shoulders a lot. Him and Monungai. I think the Bears are gonna have to lean on the run game so heavy. Run game of defense. I'm still I was telling my homie, I don't hate I d I hate to be too big, but I play receiver before. you let DJ Moore go for for Roman Doomsday and Luther Burt, which is two unproven receivers yet. And I and I'm critical of them guys and I tell people this because it's big when you go from Being the second guy to number one. I'm scheming my Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: defense to take you out the game. And then not only that, Luther Bird went from a slot to number two. So now it's just Kev: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: like this was just two, it's just those things where, and I tell people, people like to go off names, but I explain to people hey man, I don't need your name in college. I need your name in the NFL. I need what I you if you haven't proved yourself to me in the NFL, I can't just say. because Rome did this in Washington in college, he's gonna transition, do this into the league. When that's not always true. So until Rome and Luther Berg are consistent and proven, then I can say, okay, the Bears have something here. But until those guys can be proven, I think they're gonna struggle in the passing game heavy right now. I think it's gonna hurt, especially losing Caleb and so many so much things that he does, being able to throw off the run, being dynamic. So I don't wanna say the season is done, but to me. I'm sitting Caleb for at least three to four weeks. I'm gonna be honest with you. I know my Bears fans might not be happy with that, but the last thing you want to do is have some pop. And now all of a sudden he's gone for the year, maybe half of next year. Or he's just not the same guy anymore. If anybody, anybody Kev: Mm. GoFredo: that's ever really had a hamstring know them things are for real. And you can make it you KD Kev: Yeah, yeah. GoFredo: had a hamstring, and what'd he do? Came back early and popped his Achilles. We've seen that too many times. Kev: Yeah, GoFredo: So. Kev: yeah. GoFredo: Take your time, Caleb. I wish you nothing but the best, man. I wish you hell, full recovery. Not just you, but all the injuries out there. But we're going to transition to the topic of the day: Dallas and the Giants. Dallas and the Giants. Hey, listen. Kev: man. man. GoFredo: Like, we're going to start off with you first. Let's just get it out the way. How do you feel about that week one matchup? Kev: I think that would be best. I think that would be best. GoFredo: Hey, how do you feel about your team in that week one matchup? The floor is yours. LayTheDon: First of all, they won by they w they won by luck. Let's let's start that like that was that was pure luck. And that GoFredo: Yo, let me split my drink out. LayTheDon: that was pure luck. First ball, like all my no you gotta remember, none of none of my starters haven't played in like two, three games. Like it's it's first game jitters. We got new defensive players players, we got new offensive players, you know. Everybody this is the first time everybody's really playing together. So it it's week one. It's just week one. Everybody knows It's week one jitters. Everybody got week one jitters. I'm glad that the Giants finally came to that chance GoFredo: Ei, boa, calma, boa expensa do Nelson. LayTheDon: week two. I'm I'm glad the Giants finally came down from Cloud Nine on week two and you know, went in the regular direction they was planning on going anyway. You know, to the bottom. To the bottom. GoFredo: And you deflecting. We talking about week one, the matchup. Kev: Listen, man, listen, listen. LayTheDon: Week one was a flute. Week one was a flute. Okay. GoFredo: You not a Rams fan. You a you a i you a Cowboys fan. So don't don't start caring for the Rams now. Don't start trying with the Rams now. LayTheDon: No. be a Cowboys fan, you know, to the day I died. But like week one, New York Joins was on this little high. You know, you know, they, you know, beat the Cowboys. my God, it was a big thing. Week two, they came to their senses. And we good from here on out. GoFredo: Did y'all wheel did y'all wheel Sunday? LayTheDon: I don't GoFredo: Did y'all waste that day? Kev: yeah, yeah, yeah. They yeah, they got a they got a little they got a little one. LayTheDon: Yes, we won't. The GoFredo: You want Sunday? Okay. LayTheDon: Johnny did not want something. GoFredo: They wanna play Monday well, they didn't play until Monday, so of course they didn't win Sunday. LayTheDon: You know what? You know what? Kev: me. GoFredo: Well look, LayTheDon: Word, GoFredo: let's LayTheDon: you know what the hell I got there. GoFredo: Hey, hey, you hey, you got it, Lei. Hey, you know what? I got love for you because you answered that question like a cowboy's fan would answer that question. That's the way the way you answered that. Hey, listen, you a cowboy to your core. Let's get to the the first winner for the exchange, the first challenge, the first winner. I see what you did there. The first winner for the exchange, Kim. Kev: Well you back up so y'all can see the room now. Hold on a sec. Hold on a sec. LayTheDon: Mm. Kev: I just wanna later look at the logo one time. That's all that's the only reason why I I I moved back like that. LayTheDon: You wanna show up on your little taco meat? Excuse me, sir. I have a man. Thank you. Kev: then right there. No, I like that blue you got on top. I like that blue GoFredo: Okay. My bad. My my I got a phone call. Go ahead. Kev: you got on here, first of all. It just does something. That LayTheDon: You say what? Kev: blue you got on up on GoFredo: The giant's blue. Kev: top there, I like that. I like that. You know, that just it does something for you. You look good. You look good in big blue. That's hard, you know, you look good. LayTheDon: You know, y'all copied our colors immersely. Like we y'all GoFredo: Talk about copy they call it. LayTheDon: wanna be America team so bad, so y'all want American colors, you know. Kev: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: Because that's all you GoFredo: So Kev, how do you feel Kev: Hey, well GoFredo: about how do you feel about how do you feel about that week one victory and being the first winner of the forty exchange Kev: Listen, yeah. GoFredo: challenge? Kev: Well, first of all, you know, any anytime you win, it feels good. You know, that we we're just gonna call it what it is. Anytime you win, you feel good, you know. I'm I'ma say this. I'm I'm excited about well I'm gonna say this. Let me first I'ma say this. I was very excited LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kev: that we won. and I'll say this. I I think like I said, that energy Harbor brought over, it showed. It showed we won for sure. I think Jackson Dart made he had made those adjustments. He looked, he looked amazing in that game. I mean, he threw over 200, three touchdowns. I mean, that's an amazing, that's an amazing, amazing game for him. we did pretty good with the run. We had a great pickup in LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. Kev: Isaiah Likely. Y'all were not ready for Isaiah Likely. GoFredo: Yes. At all. Kev: Y'all know what to do with that. But no, I mean overall we just played we played good football. What I'm gonna say this about Dallas. I just think that they didn't play great football week one. They just didn't. Dak wasn't doing what he needed to do. He needed to make some big plays. LayTheDon: Week one jitters, bro. Kev: I don't wanna hear jitters because GoFredo: Nah, I ain't giving that. Kev: you have two top ten receivers and a running back. I wanna know what the excuse for Dak is gonna be now. You know, we gotta talk about it. This is a five-powered offense. LayTheDon: Wanna ask you this question. With the what the what how happy you was with your team week one? Was you as hopeful for your team week two before the injury? Kev: Nah, I feel dislike you now. LayTheDon: No, I said. Kev: I feel just like how you feel. The LayTheDon: You know what? No way. GoFredo: Yeah. Kev: differen the difference is the differen the difference is her team ain't hurt and she still she still felt like that. LayTheDon: You know what? I hate it here. I hate it here. GoFredo: Hey, hey, what I will say is this. LayTheDon: Anyway, that's why y'all gonna lose like that's why y'all gonna lose next week in even soon. GoFredo: Hey, this what I will say, Lei. I don't know about week one jitters and all that other nonsense. What I will say is, remember when I said going into the last the last sports episode we had, my concern with the Giants was were they gonna be able to keep up with with the Cowboys offense. That was my thing with that offensive power that they have, or you know, that they have. My problem is with with I'm still trying to figure out Dak. Like I'm not I'm still trying to get a get a understanding of what Dak's trying to do, what his decision making is and what they kind of go from moving forward. defensively, the Cowboys still that that's still a problem defensively than what they're trying to do the on the defensive end of the ball. what I was talking to you before the show, if what I seen is that the Cowboys only had the ball twice. in the second half. That's it. They only got the ball twice in the second half. They were able to score for both of those possessions, but they weren't able they they they had no answer defensively for the run game and likely. Like it was just like the Cowboys just had no answer for those two people. And then you sprinkle neighbors in there catching passes here and there throughout the game. It's almost like the Cowboys just didn't know what to do defensively. against those three people. Like they had I'm Kev: Mm. GoFredo: gonna be honest with you, they had Jackson Dart looking like, you know, modern day Tom Brady. Like he he didn't do nothing wrong. Like my man's went twenty three for twenty nine for two hundred and thirty yards and three touchdowns. if for the Cowboys, I know it's a lot of Cowboys fear and cheering that Jackson Dart went down. If I'm just keeping it in the buck. Like I ain't I ain't praying on nobody injury. I don't think people I don't know, Dallas Dallas do be praying on people to get hurt. So But for the major No, you don't. You don't. Yo, yo, yo, yo, others, your other fans do. Your other fans LayTheDon: We don't play on play on in you. First of all, we don't play we don't play on injuries. No, we don't do that. Kev: Mm. And we Right. GoFredo: do. But all jokes to say, I think that I think that the one thing that's gonna always hurt Dallas, that's still gonna hurt Dallas, is that they defense is still has trouble stopping like good excuse me, good competent offenses. Like that's gonna all that's that always, but that seems to gonna be their problem this year as well. And you're gonna lean on your offense to again have to put up thirty, thirty to thirty to thirty-five points to forty points a game, which is gonna like I said, if a team if your offense is rolling, if Dak and them is rolling, you're the you're good. Like your defense is good enough to get a one or two stops. Like it's gonna be like I said, it's gonna be hard for a team to keep up with that. But at the same time, what the Giants did is just, don't worry about it. We just gonna prevent y'all from getting the ball. Like, I saw the CeeDee Lamb interview where they where they told him, like, hey man, you only got y'all only got the ball two times in the second half, but y'all scored on it. He was like, for real? And I ended up looking it up. I'm like, dang, the Cowboys really only had the ball two times in the second half. It was one time in the third quarter and the other time in the fourth quarter. The Giants just kept milking, like, kept milking the clock, slow and steady offense. And it was Scatterboo, Najee Harris, the running back. slight in routes and digs between likely and their neighbors. It was just like they was just kept taking chunks and it just kept Kev: huh. GoFredo: just taking time away. Kev: Can can we GoFredo: So Kev: can I was gonna say, can we talk about same same play, Devin Singletary, four times, no adjustment. GoFredo: Yes, Singletary. That's what I said. I said Najee Harris, Singletary. I thank you for correcting me. Yeah. The three, Kev: is it not the GoFredo: the the three swing passers. Three swing passes in a row. Three swings in a row. And they didn't, they didn't adjust Kev: Three swings. Three swings. No adjustments. No adjustments. GoFredo: at all. Didn't adjust at all. My thing is, I don't know who your defensive coordinator is, but it's time for him to give him his papers. Cause they ran the same play three times in a row. Now it may have been different schemes. But it was three throw no swings. It was three dump passes. And he just kept running, kept running. And then on the third play, he scored. So my thing with Dallas, I think Dallas will still, you know, be able to do what they able to do. The Giants, you know, we do this every two week thing, so it's hard. You know, it'd have been different if you know, we having a different conversation about the Giants if Dart didn't go down. But I think the Giants would have a different year if Dart didn't go down. But I do like I was telling I was telling my my homie the other day, I think Winston is a is a is a pretty good backup, a complimentary backup. so my thing is just you know as long as he don't turn over the ball, they stay consistent with what they're doing. But the one thing I will say, that Giants defense is real is for real. That young defense is definitely if they able to keep that young defense together, they gonna be nice. They drafted Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: well. LayTheDon: Yeah. I think, and it's just me. You gotta realize we drafted, we just drafted and traded for a lot of the new defensive players. So majority of our had a good chunk of our defense is brand new. This is their first couple games really playing together. So my thing is, I think like I said, I'm gonna keep saying first week, second week jitters, cause like they're getting used to, they get in the vibe, they actually playing with each other and GoFredo: Hey, first week and second week jitters? LayTheDon: finding and finding it. Hey, look, it's it's like I said. it they're new to this. This is their first time really playing together, actually getting a vibe, getting the I'm honest with you. I think that I'm gonna give about week we'll say week four ish is well you actually see like a collective. GoFredo: Yeah! LayTheDon: we fall only because that's when our that's when my our our schedule really starts getting kind of like so like I honestly see that I to me I believe I saw a difference between week one and week two as far as like defense goes but it's we got a brand new defense like we got a brand new defensive coordinator so it's gonna take some time to find a rhythm together but I still I'm GoFredo: Hey, if you LayTheDon: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ever put my cowboys down like I feel like even with John Jackson Dart staying healthy like I still think first game with the Giants was a fluke. And I'm gonna continue to say it. the Rams didn't look great GoFredo: Hey. LayTheDon: at all. Week one the Rams didn't look good week week one at all. So I didn't expect the Rams to really do that great week two. I'm still gonna say it's GoFredo: Yeah. LayTheDon: a fluke, but I feel like I feel like my my boy's still going we're not going to the Super Bowl. I'm not gonna sit there and say we won't say the Super Bowl. But we got a damn good chance of going to have many more GoFredo: Hold on. What you what'd you say? LayTheDon: east trip. GoFredo: What'd you say? You said that you said you might be the LayTheDon: We got it. GoFredo: first cowboys in history to say what you just said. What'd you say again? LayTheDon: We're going at least be the NFC champs. GoFredo: Okay, see, that boy, that's a cowboys air. We ain't going to the Super Bowl, but we going to NFC Kev: The N the NFC GoFredo: Ch Kev: They not even gonna win the NFC East. They not even gonna win the NFC GoFredo: Hey boy tell you the truth. LayTheDon: And Kev: East. LayTheDon: it's a East. Okay, NSF NFC East, you know. No, you know how GoFredo: Hey. LayTheDon: to be out there. Kev: Okay. GoFredo: Hey, I wanna LayTheDon: Whatever. But GoFredo: hey I wanna Kim, congratulations. we gonna go a little bit over today because it was something that I seen that I w I wanted to get y'all takes on and whatnot. the we gonna sprinkle a little basketball here on the back end. We was gonna end on the Giants Cowboys segment, let them get they get their little punches in and whatnot, but it's something I wanted to get y'all takes on real quick. We're gonna go a little bit over on today's episode. Kawhi Leonard signed a two year extension with the Toronto Raptors for a hundred and fifteen million. coming off being as my homie like and my homie and my brother say was fighting the fans. Kawhi was able to get out scot free basically. the Clippers was the Clippers got a historical three million th thirty million dollar fine. Steve Ballman, which is the owner of the Clippers, got a one year suspension. They will also strip the five first round draft picks. and also Kawhi has to play a fine of $700,000. also, Lawrence Frank got a six-month suspension, which is the president of basketball operations, and Gillian Zucker got a one-year suspension, unpaid, which is the basketball or which is the president of business operation for the Clippers. Uncle Dennis, which is Kawhi's Leonard's uncle, which and I don't know if y'all been paying attention. That's the unc that's been wanting a whole bunch of under-the-table stuff. He got banned from conducting businesses with any with any NBA teams for the next five years. I just want to get y'all quick take on whatever y'all, whatever quick take on what I just said, when it comes to the Clippers, Kawhi having to pay just a seven thousand seven seven hundred thousand dollar fine. Quick take Lei, what you gotta say about what's going on in the NBA with Kawhi essentially beating the feds. Essentially beating the feds. Only having to pay seven hundred thousand and flipping that and getting a two year extension with the Raptors. LayTheDon: Man smart. I mean I don't I GoFredo: Ha ha ha ha. Kev: Yeah. LayTheDon: don't know I don't I don't know how much he was paying avoidance, but hey, GoFredo: Ha ha ha. LayTheDon: by any means necessary, go GoFredo: Ha ha ha LayTheDon: through shooting with me. GoFredo: Ay LayTheDon: Look, look, look. Kev: Yeah. LayTheDon: It A he them lawy them lawyers was paid real good, that's all that matter. I don't know what to tell you. Like, did you make me smart? GoFredo: Yeah, I'm with you when you write. What about you, Kev? Kev: So I'm I'ma say this. it's it's one of them things where I'm never gonna be mad at a at a man getting paid. I'm never gonna be mad at a man getting paid, all right? GoFredo: You hear me? Kev: now as far as as far as what happened, I mean, I I think way it looks like is you know, they would they were trying to you know, do a little you know, something a little under the table. A little under the table and they got and they got caught up. They were just trying to do something on the table and got and they got caught up. you know, Kawhi was trying to get his money. but at the end of the day, they technically, from what I've seen, they technically didn't pay him directly. So technically, he didn't get paid. If we if we're if we're looking at it from a business perspective, he didn't get paid. So Kawhi is good to go as far as GoFredo: That's what they s I don't know, that's what they say. Kev: as far as I'm concerned, you know, he didn't get paid, a business got paid. So he's he's good to go. You know, but GoFredo: Hey. Kev: th at the end of the day, man, you know, the league gonna hold him accountable. You know what I mean? It is what it is. But that's a that's a big find though. That's all I can. GoFredo: Hey boy, listen. Hey, but all I'm gonna say is is that the Clippers gave up SGA. They got Kawhi Leonard Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: gave up SGA, they future for Paul George, and all they got in return was a year suspension for their owner, another year and a half Kev: huh. GoFredo: suspension for business operations, whoever it is, unpaid. Another business person suspended for six months. You lost Kawhi. Kawhi's gone. You lost five future first round draft picks that I think doesn't start until 2029, if I'm not mistaken, 2030. I'm not sure on the facts on that. you boy, the clippers gonna be the clippers for another another decade. A clipper's gonna be a clippers go another decade. To me, that's all I I heard. Like LayTheDon: Yeah. GoFredo: from from brother to brother, Kawhi. Go get your money, man. You you was able to dodge your feds. You only had to pay 700,000, which ain't nothing but a couple LayTheDon: Mm-hmm. GoFredo: nickels to a person like you. So with the money he's bringing in. So let let's just let I just chill people. That two-year 115 million he got from the Raptors, you could take 700k off 700,000 thousand. You can take 700,000 off that. And he's still walking away with 114.3,000 114.3 mil. So small change, small thanks to Kev: Amen. GoFredo: a giant. But for the Clippers. Good Lord have mercy, bro. You you gambled on Kawhi Kev: Yeah. GoFredo: and you got nothing. You ain't got no rings, no Western Conference champions to show forward. You have absolutely nothing. And now you Kev: And they ain't getting nothing out of me. GoFredo: nothing. You didn't get absolutely nothing out of. So all my Clippers fans, I'm sorry. You finna go another decade. I'll be 50 years old by the time y'all figure this out. shout out to y'all. Wish y'all nothing but the best. But look, we're gonna close out. This is for the exchange. I'm glad y'all was able to hold down with us for an hour and some change. I love this. We'll see y'all in two weeks talking about sports. Maybe the Cowboys defense will figure it out in four weeks. That's what we or week four. That's what Lay said. So next time y'all see us, we'll figure out what's going on. This for the exchange, y'all. We out.