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Is Margaret Josephs Vindicated? RHONJ Finale Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, we obviously
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  Speaker 1: have to talk about that explosive finale of the Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives of New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are such supporters of mine. I'm support of yours,
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  Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. I mean, girls, that
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  Speaker 1: finale was insane. In the membrane, I'm physically shaking, like
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  Speaker 1: calling Vita Liquor sponsors so that I won't get arrested
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  Speaker 1: by the US Marshalls. So let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: What did you two think about that finale? And did
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  Speaker 1: it live up to this moment that we've all been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: I actually I.
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  Speaker 3: Was very invested, and I think that's good because I
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  Speaker 3: haven't been invested the entire season, so I do think
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  Speaker 3: it was really intense. It was kind of needed to
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  Speaker 3: have everyone together. And I get why there's no reunion.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I literally had butterflies in my stomach watching
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  Speaker 6: it because I was like nervous shaking because I was like,
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  Speaker 6: what is happening? Because like I had to rewatch it
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  Speaker 6: three times just that like you know, scene.
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  Speaker 5: Of them getting up, and I loved it.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was a great finale and it just
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  Speaker 6: showed it goes to show that like the production and
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  Speaker 6: Bravo is probably going to say goodbye to most of
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  Speaker 6: them and they made they edit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely feel like not only like a season finale,
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  Speaker 1: but like a series finale in the sense of you
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  Speaker 1: won't see half of these girls ever. So let's just
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  Speaker 1: give us as proper like good Fellas, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sort of like you know, finality in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: we've been seeing. You know, there was some men, explosive moments,
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  Speaker 1: so many explosive revelations. Let's get into the Dolores and Margaret.
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  Speaker 1: Josephs up it all so I need to know who
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  Speaker 1: you guys believe, Margaret or Dolores. So here they are
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  Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and listen. Margaret, this finale had
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  Speaker 1: no fucks to give, she said, if I'm going down,
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  Speaker 1: all you bitches are going down with me. I refuse
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  Speaker 1: to continue this season without exposing everybody in my way.
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  Speaker 2: So her first victim.
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  Speaker 1: Was Delores, where she revealed that Delores was invited to
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  Speaker 1: this meeting where they were pretty much going to listen,
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  Speaker 1: take down Louie.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's just call it what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Delores reaction when she called her the C word see
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  Speaker 1: you next Tuesday, I'm like, what is going on?
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  Speaker 2: A pardon me?
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  Speaker 1: Felt like, okay, do I believe Dolores or is Dolores
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  Speaker 1: not admitting to it because she doesn't want the rap
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  Speaker 1: of Teresa nor the tree huggers. Because Dolores's loyalty has
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  Speaker 1: been very questionable. You know who do you, ladies believe?
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe Margaret or do you believe dolor Dolorus
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  Speaker 1: all day?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you look at Margaret, she looks
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  Speaker 3: very questionable, you know, where she didn't anticipate Dolores to
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  Speaker 3: go that crazy, so and then she backs down.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit. So because she backs out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I believe Dolores, because why would Dolores be
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  Speaker 3: like she's looking at her like bitch, Like, don't even
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  Speaker 3: go there, don't even start this shit with me, Like
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  Speaker 3: I know how you work.
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  Speaker 4: You're not playing with me. So I do believe Dolores here.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that Margaret is making that up because Margaret
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  Speaker 3: wants problems with Teresa and Dolores. But I know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are questioning her. I think Dolores is like,
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  Speaker 3: I have to keep my enemies closer, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: she does with Margaret.
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  Speaker 6: But I also I've been telling Raxcy and I think
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  Speaker 6: Dolores downplays her relationship with Margaret because they call each
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  Speaker 6: other best friends, they call each other sisters after they're
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  Speaker 6: apologizing after.
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  Speaker 5: The little blow up. But I still think Dolores is
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  Speaker 5: telling the truth.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that Margaret just wants to make Teresa
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  Speaker 6: Dolores not friends and she can have Dolores alter herself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the reason why I listen
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  Speaker 1: as a housewives connoisseur, as somebody who started Jersey, you
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  Speaker 1: know who started Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't what.
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  Speaker 1: I produced, do you know what I mean? It's still
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  Speaker 1: like Hunger Games is you know, Jersey and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of housewives. Because I said on my own podcasts before,
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  Speaker 1: it's no longer about friendships. It's more about alliances. It's
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  Speaker 1: more about who cannot align myself with in order for
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  Speaker 1: me to secure another season. Jersey is definitely a show
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  Speaker 1: that is not at all about friendships. Is truly about
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  Speaker 1: picking aside, sticking to a side, and then investigating their
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote friends or their cast members to dick of
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  Speaker 1: so much dirt about them.
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  Speaker 2: And that's not.
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  Speaker 1: What I produced. Early on this season, we got the
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  Speaker 1: drama and all that stuff. I mean, hello Teresa chasing
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  Speaker 1: down Danielle stop as she pulling her hair, like we
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  Speaker 1: have some wild moments, but none to where somebody is
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  Speaker 1: being investigated to the degree of your involving husbands and children.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you too.
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  Speaker 1: Dolores immediate reaction to me displayed that Margaret was lying.
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  Speaker 1: And the way Margaret sort of clocked Jackie's tea, which
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  Speaker 1: will get to later, the way she stood up with
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  Speaker 1: her bob looking like Nicki Minaj back in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and one, you know, Starships era. The way she kind
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  Speaker 1: of like stood up, it was like, no, bitch, I
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  Speaker 1: know for a fact you did it.
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  Speaker 2: She did not have that same energy with Dolores.
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  Speaker 1: And the fact that de Laura's called her, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the C word in front of her face sort of
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  Speaker 1: showed me that Dolores is not the bitch to play with.
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  Speaker 1: Do you say Margaret underestimated that Delores is not somebody
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  Speaker 1: that she can scare the way she does these other women,
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  Speaker 1: I e.
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  Speaker 2: Melissa.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she got so scared.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, she didn't expect Dolores's reaction, and she's like, I
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  Speaker 3: need Dolores because, just like you said, it's all about
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  Speaker 3: alliances here. So she's like, I need Dolores to have
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  Speaker 3: my back to be on my side to pick me,
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  Speaker 3: you know, over Teresa if it comes down to it.
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  Speaker 3: So she really backed the hell down and that told
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  Speaker 3: you everything.
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  Speaker 4: She wouldn't have backed down, just like you said with
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  Speaker 4: the Jackie thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I have a question because you're a producer, and
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  Speaker 3: when you were producing New Jersey, didn't they have like
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  Speaker 3: a couple of year contracts, not like a one year contract?
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  Speaker 3: Because I feel like there's so much pressure to deliver
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  Speaker 3: and do the dirtiest thing so you get another season.
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  Speaker 3: So you kind of have to understand where they're coming from.
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  Speaker 3: But when you were on the show, didn't you guys
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  Speaker 3: give Housewives like a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen, anybody who's on the show, they have options, right,
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  Speaker 1: So no one does a one season deal, not one
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  Speaker 1: person on any reality show.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me just say docuseries. Right, if you're on
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  Speaker 1: like The Bachelor, obviously that one season. But when you're
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  Speaker 1: on a docu series like this, you're signed up for
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  Speaker 1: multiple seasons. But the thing is this, the network has
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  Speaker 1: the right to get rid of you. They don't have
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  Speaker 1: to exercise their option, right, So you could be signed
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  Speaker 1: on for like four years, but if your first season
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  Speaker 1: is then spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: Every network has.
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  Speaker 1: The right to let you go wow. That's the way
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  Speaker 1: it goes. And what happens with these housewives is this.
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  Speaker 1: It's not often that a middle age woman is able
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  Speaker 1: to be famous and on television because unfortunately, in our business,
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  Speaker 1: middle aged women don't have a lot of options to
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  Speaker 1: have a leading role on the television show, right, and
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  Speaker 1: that's primarily actresses.
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  Speaker 2: When you are reality star, you.
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  Speaker 1: Can have a second life, a second win post forty.
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  Speaker 1: And what that means is you are immedially famous, you're
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  Speaker 1: immedially successful. You me deally have all this wealth, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not every day that you have those opportunities, and
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  Speaker 1: it reaks U desperation to keep it. Listen, I have
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  Speaker 1: no issue with Jackie Goldschneider. She's great television. But I
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  Speaker 1: think Jackie is listen to me, it will get to
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  Speaker 1: the finale dinner in a second. Jackie Goldschneider to me
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  Speaker 1: is the perfect example of I will do whatever it
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  Speaker 1: takes to be to remain relevant. You know, I will
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  Speaker 1: disregard my friendship of five plus years with Melissa and
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  Speaker 1: Margaret and befriend Teresa if that means I get more
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  Speaker 1: camera time. You know, I think Jackie's loyalty is to
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  Speaker 1: her fame.
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  Speaker 3: I do think though, that Jackie did realize she was
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  Speaker 3: treated way differently when she got cast as a friend
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  Speaker 3: of the people like Melissa and Margaret who called her
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  Speaker 3: every single day.
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  Speaker 4: They stopped calling her, they.
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  Speaker 3: Stopped being loyal, and she was like, wait, is this
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  Speaker 3: friendship actually genuine? And that's why she was so comfortable
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  Speaker 3: flipping because they stopped giving a shit about her once
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  Speaker 3: she got demoted. So the you know, for her, she's like,
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  Speaker 3: this was never authentic, Like I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought, that's a good point. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 4: But I see your.
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  Speaker 3: Point too, Like I see your point, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: but then I also see her side of it as well.
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  Speaker 6: But it's also like if she was someone too, you know,
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  Speaker 6: at that dinner for we will get to it, I guess,
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  Speaker 6: but at that dinner, it's if like she really wants
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  Speaker 6: to be on that show and secure her spot, Like
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  Speaker 6: she has so much shit on Margaret that she could say,
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  Speaker 6: like I know she does. So it's like, why don't
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  Speaker 6: you say it, Like why are you backing down? Like
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  Speaker 6: why aren't you telling your truth that probably you have
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  Speaker 6: on her? So that's what bothers me because it's like,
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  Speaker 6: let's let's let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, Jackie did not expect to get exposed. And Honey,
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  Speaker 1: I mean if if I wanted to see how her
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  Speaker 1: chair looked, I needed to see the seat because I
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  Speaker 1: needed to see if there were brown doodoo stains. Because literally, yeah, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: For the mental picture.
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  Speaker 1: Rank drops hot, hide your wives and hib the kids.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like she shit at her pants. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: talk about bubble guts, not butterplasmia stomach like literally bubble guts.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to talk about this before we get
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  Speaker 1: to that part. What do we think about the Louis
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  Speaker 1: Teresa's conversation juxtaposed against Joe Gorgas and Melissa's conversation as
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  Speaker 1: they were getting ready to have this finale dinner. So
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  Speaker 1: we got a chance to get two point of views
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  Speaker 1: from let's call it what it is, the two families
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  Speaker 1: who are the anchors of the show. Right to me,
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  Speaker 1: it was evident that the network, the production knew that
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  Speaker 1: these two families will never appear on the same show
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  Speaker 1: ever again. And from the flashbacks to the conversations about
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  Speaker 1: their parents, look, everyone knows. Teresa's my friend in real
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  Speaker 1: life and I love her dearly. It saddened me to
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  Speaker 1: see the flashbacks of her parents because, and I said
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  Speaker 1: this in nauseum, I know for a fact that her
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  Speaker 1: parents adored her, and I know for a fact that
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  Speaker 1: Teresa lived to please her parents and to take care
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  Speaker 1: of them when they were ill. And to sort of
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  Speaker 1: see how Joe Gorga said out of his own mouth
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  Speaker 1: that his father said, to take care of your sister.
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  Speaker 1: That was pretty much your father's dying wish. And to
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  Speaker 1: know that you could not even live up to your
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  Speaker 1: father's wishes to me, explain the type of man you are.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Has these feelings about Louis, and I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you ladies your thoughts on him. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: no one thinks about the fact that at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, at the end of the day, Joe
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  Speaker 1: Gorga is blood related to Teresa.
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  Speaker 2: That's her only sibling.
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  Speaker 1: He said, out of his own mouth, My father said
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  Speaker 1: to take care of my sister, and you have I
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  Speaker 1: failed that assignment.
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  Speaker 2: You. I think it's I think it's super sad and
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  Speaker 2: super gross.
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  Speaker 6: I think too, it's like a lot of people's relationships
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  Speaker 6: can be like you don't like your in law, so
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  Speaker 6: like he might not like Louis, But why does it
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  Speaker 6: have to be like the be all end all for
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  Speaker 6: your relationship with your sister, Like there should have still
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  Speaker 6: been some sort of communication after before the wedding, after
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  Speaker 6: the wedding, like him still trying if like that's what
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  Speaker 6: you told your father that you're going to do, and
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  Speaker 6: that you're going to take care of her and her
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  Speaker 6: daughters and making sure that they're okay, and like making
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  Speaker 6: sure that their headspace is okay, like if if you
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  Speaker 6: heard like the way Melissa told him in that conversation,
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  Speaker 6: is that that house is so stressed, Like how do
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  Speaker 6: you not want to pick up the phone and call
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  Speaker 6: Gia at least or call somebody and say, are you
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  Speaker 6: guys doing okay?
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  Speaker 5: Are you guys doing something? It's something that do I
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  Speaker 5: need to know?
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  Speaker 6: And if they say no, don't worry about it, then
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  Speaker 6: at least you know you did your job. But how
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  Speaker 6: do you not have that feeling to do that with them?
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  Speaker 6: It blows my mind?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Joe.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that bothered me about him is you can
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  Speaker 3: tell in the last year he doesn't look happy if
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  Speaker 3: you see photos videos.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have the same energy he used to have,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, he still.
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  Speaker 3: Tried to throw shades, so he doesn't care about what
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  Speaker 3: his dad said, his mom says anything, because he still.
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  Speaker 4: Tried to throw shade.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, if my sister was really going through something,
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  Speaker 3: she would never want everyone to know about it.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like, well, what about you, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: We've never heard anything that you're going through, so why
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  Speaker 3: are you throwing shade at Teresa?
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  Speaker 4: Like this is a real thing.
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  Speaker 3: They brought a dangerous person who's been harassing Teresa's children
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  Speaker 3: onto this platform for no reason. It's like they take
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  Speaker 3: it too far and then it gets so ugly and
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  Speaker 3: now it's like, what was it worth it?
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  Speaker 4: Everyone? Look where everyone's at now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's saddest me because look, I think that if
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  Speaker 1: you look at the cast, okay, and let's look at them,
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  Speaker 1: let's look at them silo.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I will go on the record saying I think each
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  Speaker 1: of them individually are great housewives, but what they bring
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  Speaker 1: to the show, right, I think Melissa is a great housewife.
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  Speaker 1: I think Margaret is one. I love Rachel and Danielle Honey,
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, hello, we'll get to that a second.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, please find me the black version of Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: Aiden for my lover Mans franchise, because Honey, Bunny, she's everything.
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  Speaker 1: As individuals, they're all great housewives. It's saddest me that
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  Speaker 1: nobody felt the need to say, Okay, bitch, let's figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to make this show work, how to not
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  Speaker 1: make it dark. Let's not investigate each other. Let's not
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  Speaker 1: even run the gamut of like trying to expose each
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  Speaker 1: other husbands. The thinking that I'm getting the most I've
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  Speaker 1: had people texting me about Louie. I literally received the
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  Speaker 1: text last night from a friend of mine who said
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  Speaker 1: to me, you should be concerned about Louie. And my
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  Speaker 1: response was, I can only base somebody off of me
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  Speaker 1: meeting them, and I'm sorry, guys, He's a nice person.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: He's been nothing but sweet to me. Teresa looks happy.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I've always said this in nauseum. Teresa's children have great
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: discernment and at the end of the day, they love him. So, guys,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I get what it may appear based on what we
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: are fed courtesy of the show of the blogs or whatever,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: but I can only base Louie character off of what
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I know him to be, and if I'm wrong, I'm
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: wrong in the end. But as of today, I like Louis.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I love Teresa's happiness. It's primarily because of him. Her
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: daughters love him. I don't know what you guys want
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: from me. I don't see it when I'm around him
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in real life. But you two, what are your thoughts
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on Louie. Should Teresa be concerned? Because that's the biggest
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: feedback of people saying, well, it's Louie's fault he ruined
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the show, And I'm like, well, bitch, what.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Show are you watching? Because I don't think it's Louie's fault.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I think we've met Louis twan like, like everything you
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: said is like how we feel we've met him.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: He's been nothing but great to us as.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Well, and like he's and what we were at Brava
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Khan and we saw him.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: How he interacted with the fans is too. He was awesome.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people met him are like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: we didn't expect that from him.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: So I really don't understand like the hate, but I
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: also think that he was thrown into this not really
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: understanding how it works, So I think he doesn't know
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: when he talks like how people are going to spend things,
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: and I think he's being genuine and like trying to
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: like just he's very emotional guy, it seems like, so
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: he's trying to show his emotions.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: A lot, and it doesn't. It doesn't.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: The way they edit it or the way he comes
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: out doesn't portray what he's really trying to, like say.
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: And I think he loves Teresa, like you said, the.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: Girls love him.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Why are people still obsessed with trying to like dethrone him?
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Almost?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone on the cast has come from him,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: come for him from the very beginning.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: So it's like you can only take so much where
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: you don't.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Like say something off the wall, especially if you're not,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: like you know, used to the show of things. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you know, I know he said that thing about Margaret's son,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, I think, what like when I think
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: about it, He's just been through so much with everyone
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: coming for him, for his businesses, for his children, for
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Teresa's children. They gave again a very dangerous person a platform,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: so he doesn't know how to handle it.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: And I feel very bad because he didn't sign up
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: for this. He just really loves Teresa.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: But like you guys are saying, his you know, their
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: kids adore him, so that tells you everything.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: If they have no concern no one else, should they
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: live with him?
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: And his own kids too, Like you think that they're
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: old enough now, you think they can't decide if they
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: don't want to be like have a relationship with their father.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: If their father was such a bad guy, they live
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: with him too. They see him all the time too,
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: So it just makes no sense. Like from what you're
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: seeing his family, his own father, his sisters, they're all
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: around him. And if you're a bad person, and if
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: you're you have bad ill to people, you wouldn't have
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: this like entrage around you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I agree, And listen, I will even say this. I
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that he said I wish her
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: son would suffer, you know, because I think I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the kids, they should be off limits.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And listen, I'm pretty sure he may regret it because
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you are in the moment and you're pissed and you're heated.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: So it's not something to like, you know, nail him
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to the crossover, but it was. It did shock me
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to hear that, So listen. I would go on the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: record saying I did not like that. I didn't think
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that was appropriate. But I also know that at the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: end of the day, this is real life and people
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: are talking to the excess of people and involving like
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: lawyers and private investigators, like am I watching Daylight NBC?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Like what in the American Greed true crime series on
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Peacock's special of Jersey?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Am I watching here? That's not my enjoyment?
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: And carls imagine this happened to any other house if
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: their man x came on the show or like how
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: to be talking to show is keep coming after them,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: they would go crazy. Like Rachel, they called like the
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: man boobs Daniel's man boobs, and she went off the wall.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: She threw something like I imagine if this was happening
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: to anyone else's husband, what they would do to the production,
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: what they would do to the show, Like, they would
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: go crazy. And it's because Teresa, like you produced her.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: I think she's very just chill and like go with
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: the flow that she's allowed even all of this to
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: even happened, like where she didn't put her foot down.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: It's not on her.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: But it's just crazy because if any other housewife had
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: this happened to them, they would be going nuts.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: They were doing crazy who.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more. This
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: get back into the show. So let's get into this
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: finale dinner.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Honey.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jennifer Aiden, I'm gonna say this and I'm not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: going to take it back. Jennifer Aiden maybe the top
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: ten best housewives of all time?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Top ten. Yeah, I'm going on a limb. She she
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: ask the ability.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You don't like Kenya Moore can ruff of feathers and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: just like get other people's skin. Jennifer Aiden is similar
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in the sense of she's so witty, she's so quick,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: she's quick with it, she's pretty, she's like wealthy, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I think she's a true housewives and she's funny. When
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: she went to Teresa and I's live show, I met
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: her for the first time there. She's so pretty, she's
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: so fun and the entire audience was like fanning out
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: over her. She's so delicious to watch. I mean, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: did not expect Jennifer Legend Aiden to eviscerate Danielle's husband's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: body parts, because listen, the man moves, to me is
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: just typical housewife comedy clap back. Like, to me, it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: not anything. She's not talking about his job up what
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: he does for a living, allegedly licking sex toys up
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: his ass. You know, like there's certain things where you're like, Okay,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that may be too far. The fact that she said
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: your man has the booths and you have.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: The bra.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The fuck thinks about that? That moment to me solidify
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: like I need her back on the show. But we'll
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: talk about the fate of the housewives later. But what
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: did you guys think of that? I mean, tense across
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the motherfucking board.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she wouldn't have done that though, had Danielle not
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: set first. You know, I come home to my husband
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: because daniel was trying to throw shade about it in
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: the poolhouse, and we know a lot was edited out
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of that scene as well.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: So that's the only.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Reason Jennifer says something, just like Jennifer says, won't you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: won't start now, won't be none? You know, they always start.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: She reacts and she's quick with it, and that's what
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: we love. We love to see that.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: That was amazing that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It was so epic, was so epic because I mean
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to know that that soundby alone can make a woman
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: get up out of her seat and literally, Danielle, I
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: like you when I say this, don't take it like seriously.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: It's me being fun, but I'm also being real. Danielle
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: studied the playbook of Teresa Judice. So okay, okay, listen,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we saw you on MTV TRL Britney Spears fan out.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: We saw you on was it Jersey Delicious or some
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: shit like Danielle, and listen, this is not an insult.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: It's a compliment.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: The way that Beyonce study Diana Ross and Michael Jackson's cool.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It's okay. You're supposed to study the legends.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: You not only study Brittany Spears to be a pop
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: star that didn't go anywhere. So instead you study the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: pop icon of housewives, which is Teresa Judaice. So when
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: she got up out of her seat and like did
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: exactly what Teresa did to Margaret seasons ago, I'm like, Teresa,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: all of these women are your sons, okay, and you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: raised these girls.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: You are mother.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You are seriously, this is like your playhouse and all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of these women are in your playroom. You literally built
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the house that is the Real Housewives of Jersey. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: when Danielle did that, I'm like Teresa Junior, I can't
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: be mad at it. But did you guys think the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: same thing? Like, girlfriend, what are we doing here?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I do think she's trying to be the young version
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: of Teresa.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I do think she is someone who's always wanted to
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: be famous, and so she knows that these kind of
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: moments were iconic for Teresa and she wants that too
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to again secure her spot for the next season, Like
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: this is really gonna make her as a housewived, change
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: her in her husband's life. So I definitely think she
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: is taking some tips from Teresa and trying to do
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the same thing. But I did want to ask you,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: because she does throw a picture, we don't actually see
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: that happening. As a producer, why do you think that
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: they didn't show her throwing it?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about that really fast. So allegedly,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: because I was told this too, that Dangelle allegedly threw
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a glass picture at Jennifer Aden. What we saw was
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: more so like pushing the dishes towards her direction.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Is it true that she?
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: So?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what did you ladies here?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: You're missing apart? Margaret says, she shouldn't have thrown that
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: at you. She should, Yes, Jennifer, she shouldn't have thrown
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that at you. I don't agree with that. So Margaret
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: says that, which confirms it was thrown at Jennifer.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So are they saying she picked up a glass picture
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that we see on the kool Aid label and that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: she like threw it in Jennifer's direction.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was glass.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just know that it was
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: like a picture thrown at her.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And Margaret literally.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Says it, and she's like, I don't agree with her
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: throwing that at you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Like imagine the way that, Like do you think a
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: little push of like the plates made production come in
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: and like want.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: To grab her, Like why would that have happened?
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: You know, like a little push of the plate we
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: see them break glasses, but a throw would make production
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: have to security come and like escort her out of
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: the area.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Good point. Good point.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So to answer your question, why was it removed Listen,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked to hear that maybe it was that dangerous
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that they didn't want I mean, but again, I'm from
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: old school housewives, like we like I listen, I saw
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Kenya morget her hair pulled from Porsche and dragged across
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the reunion stage, do you know what I mean? So
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I don't get this sort of removing stuff to make
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: someone look good. So I can't even explain to you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: why that would happen if I did indeed happen, because
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I don't come from that world. I literally we saw Ashley,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Jacqueline's daughter pull Danielle's hair. Now, we also saw Danielle
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: grab someone's weave and held her alleged pulled hair from
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a scout in the Confessionals, So again that's what we see.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So to note that that could have allegedly been removed,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the only thing I can say to you is maybe
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: they're trying to protect Danielle in terms of coming back
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: next season because she's a younger housewife and they want
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: to make sure the show is at least skewed younger.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that bothers me, because listen, Jennifer Aiden obviously
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is a lot, and that's in a good sense to me.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: But to know that that was not only did she
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: have glass slapped in her face, she now had a
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: glass picture allegedly a picture thrown in her direction. So
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like, Danielle, you need to go on
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Battie's Jersey on zeus. Yeah, and just audition for that show.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: That's more your style, my baby.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: And the fact that Jennifer allowed her to come back
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: is like why I think a lot of people love Jennifer,
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: because a lot of people would have been like, went crazy,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: like she's not coming back, He'll no take her out
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: of Milton and yeah, like people with Milton jumpers like
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: it's fine, bring her back and she doesn't phaze me,
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: bring her back in like I'm not, I don't give
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: a shit.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: The moment that shocked me.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't been this shocked on a housewife show since
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it was revealed Monica Garcia rand a blog, Right, Yeah,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that Jackie Golschneider met with Louis
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: X in February of twenty twenty one. The thing is this,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and this is why I always tell me housewives nowadays
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is seriously the game of survivor.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: It's whatever you'll do to like stay on the island.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: The island is housewives, So listen, I like to give
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: everyone of their props, and I'm going to give Margaret
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: her props.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Margaret did not hold back.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I what's crazy is in that very moment when Margaret said, well, Jackie,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you're the one who met with her, I mean with
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: his ex, and Jackie's like, no, no, I'm like, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: in real time, I'm like, okay, what's going on?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: And then when Melissa.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Said, Jackie, if you said it, be honest about it,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: because it's going to come out, and then for Dolores
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to sort of repeat that you saw Jackie's.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Life flash before her eyes. She was Rudolph ritt NOO's
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: dear red right.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I think she thought that, you know that epic scene
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: on vander Pum Rules where Stasy like just like was
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: sitting next to Kristen and like just like like slapped
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: her when she was next to her. I think Jackie
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: was like scared that Teresa was going to do that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So when she when she delicately it.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Was like sort of when you are a child and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you have to fess up to your mom that okay, mom,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Take the cook the cookie jar the way.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Jackie Golschneider sort of like melted in her seat, looked
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: in Teresa's direction and went like, yeah, I met with her.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, your fucking ladies. I watched it five times.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I was literally, I'm telling you, I had a Lisa
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Barlow shaking moment.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I did not expect that. Did you to know that already?
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I did it.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I thought Margaret was there when that happened.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: So I do think that was a little bit shocking,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: and I'm kind of wondering, is it true Margaret really
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: didn't know. I don't believe that she didn't know. I
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: don't believe she had found out one week earlier. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: do believe she had known this for a while, because
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it's weird that Jackie wouldn't have told her that if
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: they all can't see Theresa and Margaret's the queen of
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: calling people's exes, and we all knew Margaret. Margaret was
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: in communication with the X. She gifted the ex a
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: bracelet in twenty twenty one. The ex posted it on
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: social media.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, hold on, girlfriend
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Margaret did what.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Margaret gifted the ex a bracelet and the X is
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: very unhinged. Posted on social media and said, I want
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to thank Margaret for giving this to me, tagged her.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I mean there's receipts of all us.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: So she's a liar when she says she didn't talk
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: to her until after the boat the liar.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Oh the tea, oh honey.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm sipping in honey with lemon drops. So I
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I think Jackie told Dolores, Melissa and Margaret,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: which is why it's no Now it makes sense why
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: those three ladies said you need to be honest because
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it's going to come out.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And I think Jackie knew.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: That if I don't reveal this, Let's be clear. If
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I know that, no one knew about this, this is just.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Me, honey.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like going to the lie with my grave, you
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I die, oh baby, period dot.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: So the fact that Dolores and Melissa was so adamant,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like you need to be honest before it comes out.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Let let's just be honest. I agree with you too.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It just hit me. You're right Jackie told Margaret. Whether
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: or not she told Margaret.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think Dolores knew. I don't think Delus.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I don't think Dolorus knew Lauras hates Jackie, and Jackie
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: would never tell Dolores that Dolores has always hated Jackie.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I was gonna say that too.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't even think Jackie told
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like Dolores, Margaret, and Melissa. I think Jackie told Margaret,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and Margaret told everyone else.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: You have to see that.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like guess what she did. But
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I didn't believe that Margaret's timeline
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: did not make sense to me. But this is the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: sad parts. Let's have a real conversation in that very moment.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: We got to be honest here. Margaret, at least in
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: that moment, the audience felt she was vindicated.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you too feel the same way?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: No, because we know that she has been having conversation.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: But we all we know all listen, at the end
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: of the day, Teresa has been saying this person's dangerous
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: and dangerous to my family, and every single one of
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you have admitted now that you've been in communication with her.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: I think she's been indicated. I think Teresa's viated.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So I think Teresa's been indicated to be like, here's
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a dangerous person. You guys have taken this so far
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to give this person a platform for us to discuss her,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: knowing that she's this dangerous, knowing that legal thing is
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: if like there's so much legal stuff involved.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: And so I.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Do think Theresa's vindicated because they all spoke to her.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: But Jackie just kind of looked like an idiot because
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: she had the opportunity the week before to say something
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and she just didn't when they sat with the attorney.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: So that would have been the perfect opportunity to just
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: be honest about it, like no one was innocent here,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and you know, it's still all like mind boggling though,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: But I mean it was a good It was a
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: good scene for like Margaret to be like, here's what
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I have on you.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: Like without knowing what we know, Like if I was
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: just a casual, if you were watching it, I would
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: be like, dann Margaret really like it looked like she
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: had nothing to even touch, like she she didn't just
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: stayed away. But how are you so comfortable to call
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: this ex and like a week before and be like, hey,
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: ry guys, Yeah, how are you so comfortable to call
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: the ex a week before and be like, hey, like
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: who talked to you or who did this? It's like
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: that just shows you've had so much communication with her.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: So talk to me.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: What do you know about Margaret's interactions with the ex?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: What is the timeline that you know that the audience
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: isn't aware of because the audience, in their defense, they
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: can only base things off of what they're watching on
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so from just like Jackie met with her in
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty one, there was interactions in twenty twenty one.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know the exact months that she interacted with her,
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: but there was an interaction in twenty twenty one. Because
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: the acts, just like Melissa has said, the ex did
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: DM everybody, like Joe has talked to her. Melissa has
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: talked to her. Everybody has talked to this ex because
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: she wanted to make sure, like she wanted to get
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: her story out about Louis. So she's DMed everybody under
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: the sun, and like sometimes it happens, it is what
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: it is.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: But Margaret has talked to her.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Margaret also has spoken on the phone with her multiple times.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: It wasn't just once and it was all before the bodiitos.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: She got subpoenaed for this because there was an actual
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: court case, like there was a you know, louing the
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: ex how to go to court, and they subpoenaed her
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: because they wanted to They wanted to show that, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: what this ex was doing, contacting Teresa's coworkers essentially, like
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: that's like you're talking about like you know, your work now,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: so it's like she's contacting her coworkers. And they wanted
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: to show that on record. But then Margaret didn't show
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: up to the court to show up to it, so
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: it's legal. They saw that you talked to her, and
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: it's because of that bracelet thing that shows that she
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: did talk to her.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: What did Margaret ever a knowledge or respond to her
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: fans about that post of the X revealing that Margaret
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: gave her bracelet.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: No, No, she's not that we've seen.
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not that we've seen, because they just think it's like,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: you know, this is what we're doing. Margaret again has
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: talked to Siggy's ex, remember Siggy's husband at the time,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: she contacted Siggy's X, and that was one thing, Siggy said,
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: the production you're not doing, You're not getting my husband's
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: ex involved.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Margaret did that.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: Margaret has clearly found out things about Jennifer Aiden and
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: like her husband's past. Like Margaret does that all the time.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: So it's not that crazy that Margaret's going to do
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: this with Teresa's husband that they can't stand his exes.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about that.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Margaret didn't know that Jennifer Aiden's husband cheated on her,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: yes with a with a coworker. So it is plausible
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: that obviously Margaret would reach out to the exes because SIGGI,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: first of all, your exclusive with Siggy was so amazing,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: so congratulations, I mean it was fantastic and it like
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: blew up the internet. Siggy did reveal to you ladies
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that yes, Margaret reached out to her ex and that's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: when she said, this is enough, Like I'm here to
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: have fun and throw cake on the ground and all
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: that shit. But like, why do you think Margaret feels
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the need to all of a sudden to play this
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: dangerous game of Molly's games.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: So the Molly's game, it's like Margaret's game.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: That's actually to me.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: She ruins the show sometimes, like we're all for fun,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: like the moment she had with Jackie, that's it is fun.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: We're all for fun.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: But for her to like have to go into like
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: all these people and in the minute like her son's involved,
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: it's like, which is not even true, Like there's still
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: no proof that they keep saying that Louis called the
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: sun that did not happen. So like for her to
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: go crazy when she like it comes in her core,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: but when like she can go do with everyone else,
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: that's why to me, she doesn't play fear and she
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: ruins the show.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Carlos, I talked to Siggey today and she told us
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: to tell you.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Hi, Oh, I love her.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Did she tell you I ran into her like a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: peer one imports or something and.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but she's I said.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, we're going on Carlos's podcast, and she like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: make sure you tell them.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I said, Hi, No, I love Siggy. She was so sweet.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: She said, you're the Carlos King, honey heard so much about.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: We spent like thirty minutes talking and I listen up
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: there she's she's such a great doll that I like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: her and I think that's why I'm so sad because
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Jersey was like top tier housewives, right, it was up
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: there with like Atlanta, you know, like just comedy and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: drama and.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Real life stuff.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And it's saddest me that it's gone to the point
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: where it is about the behind the scenes stuff. So
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: now that we saw this finale, now that we know
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: there's no reunion, what do you think the future of
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Housewives is going to be? Andy Cohen sent on his
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: podcast with an over zealous caller, who, by the way,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: was so fun I like lovers.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: She's like, get rid of these Oh, I'm like, sister,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: who are you? Come on my podcast, baby, I'll give you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I'll give you the entire hour and how that she
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: was so funny to me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: But Andy has said, like, yes, we're thinking about a reboot,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: we're thinking about new girls, we're thinking about keeping some
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: What is you'all prediction in terms of who stays and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: who goes? And I will give you guys my exclusive
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: prediction too.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I think they're only going to bring about three people back.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Because he's talking about a reboot, they're talking about fresh faces,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: so obviously that.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Means that majority of the cast isn't going to come back.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I do think that, whether you like Teresa or not,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: as we saw him watch What Happens like, Teresa was
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: like the word of the night Teresa. Every scene is
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: based on Teresa. It would only make sense if she
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: comes back. I would love to see Jennifer come back
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: because she's top to your housewife, like she's why we
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: watch the Housewives.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I do see Dolores coming back and one of the
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: newbies coming back as well.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I think Melissa is done.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind Margaret coming back, to be quite honest,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: but I also believe she is one hundred percent the
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: reason the show is as toxic edited. If I had
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: to pick between Margaret and Melissa, I'm gonna go with
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Margaret though, Okay, yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: I honest, I think they're only going to bring back
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: two people or reboot it. Like I don't even think
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: they're gonna bring back three or four because then you're
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: kind of just because the way that they've been all
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: been explaining it, the way that they you know, did
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: this finale, it's like they're trying to do like the
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: end of an era type show. So it's like for
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: them to bring back like half the cast, like it
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: just wouldn't make sense. And I think that they're going
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: to pick two people from either side. I don't think
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: they're going to bring back one person from the TREESA
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: side and one person from Margaret's side or whoever.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Bring back two people and then try to get a
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: new cast going around those two people.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with the both of you, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: this is my prediction. Who I strongly ninety nine point
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: nine percent believe that. Listen, there's no show without Teresa.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because she's my friend. I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: saying it because I'm a producer. I create shows, I
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: work with networks. Networks are built off of advertising dollars.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I have never seen a woman in my lifetime, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you ladies, tell me if you see if you have
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: seen it. I have never seen a woman who is
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: truly the face of a show like truly is. We
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: talk about Kyle being the face of nine to two
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and zero. I do think and I love Kyle, but
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I do think there's life after Kyle if if she
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: decides to leave the show. We see Atlanta Housewives survive
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: without Nini, And to me, Nini is Atlanta Housewives. I'm
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: not saying the show is good or great. I'm just
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: saying we've seen it. I don't see a world where
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you have the pinnacle face of a show and to
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: know that Andy Combe's best friend in real life. Kelly
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Rippa said on her own podcast, there's no show without you, Teresa.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see Andy.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Cohen and Kelly Rippa having a battle over who's do
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's you know.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think I think everyone knows that it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Teresa's show. So with that being said, I think Teresa
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: comes back. I think Dolores comes back because she's Switzerland.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I think I think Teresa needs a friend, and I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: think they believe Dolores is the best candidate. I love
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Aiden. Unfortunately, I don't know if they want her back.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just being on It's not my opinion of whether
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: or not she shouldn't. I want her to stay on forever.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Based on what I'm seeing, I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: don't see a world where they invite her back, and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I think, possibly, possibly, they may keep one of the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: two newbies, Danielle or Rachel but I don't see anything
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: beyond that. I think Melissa and Joe knows their time
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: is up. I think the reason why you're seeing Joe
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Gorga stressed out is because I think he knows that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: this show he sacrifices the relationship of his sister for
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: is done. I think Melissa knows her time is up.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: With that being said, though, I think the networks loves them,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and I think they'll be able to do other stuff
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: like how we see like lu Anne do things and
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Sonya Morgan Derinda. I think they'll do other things, but
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think they will ever ever be back, and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I think mar I think they may bring Margaret back
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: if she decides to sort of come in and not
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: be so advantageous to take down to recent Louis, but
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I don't see Margaret coming back either.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: We all believe Jennifer Aiden's a great housewife.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: So before I let you ladies go, do we believe
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that the reason why it is curtains for Jennifer Aiden
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: is because of this alleged relationship that she have a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: blogger sitting them screeners, And do you think everybody involved
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: in production said enough is enough and that kind of
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: stealed her fate.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I think no matter what, was going to be a change.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: And they said that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: They kept saying, listen, when Seedson fifteen comes, it's going
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: to be a change. We're going to have them all
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: together one last time, and then season fifteen, we're going
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: to have a big shake up. We've been saying this
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: since season thirteen. That's when season fifteen comes. Once we
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: knew that everyone was coming back for season fourteen, we said,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: season fifteen is going.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: To be the biggest shake up.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: So I think that no matter what, you know, the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: people like like a Jennifer, maybe she would have never
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: been on their list because they were going.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: To have to switch up completely anyways.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: So that's how I look at it, at least, just
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: because we know that it was going to be a
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: shake up for season fifteen.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: It did seem though, because of the all the blogger
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: stuff that they kind of were, you know, erasing some
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: of her screen time. And I think she even has
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: said it like a lot, like she's been saying it
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: a little bit, like you know, with little comments that
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: she'll make on Instagram, and so it shows that like
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: there's so many things that they cut off, and I
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: don't think they did her justice with editing, and I
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: think they edited it afterwards.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, Agree, Agrey, Well, look, we are going to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: see what happens, but I think we all collectively agree
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and listen. When you're on the same page as Kelly Rippa,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: you must be doing something right. So I think we
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: all know that Teresa is going to continue on the show.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: By Melissa.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Melissa, what did you ladies think of her
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: calling Teresa white trash and loaning a moment? And I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: felt like Melissa. I tried not to because somebody told me,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: ladies that Melissa thinks you're so hard on her and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: she doesn't understand what she did to you.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: For you to keep talking about her, I'm like, I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: talk about the show.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I don't dislike you, like I don't know you to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: dislike you, So I tried this season not to like
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: go in it. Oh Melissa, Melissa, you made it hard
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for yourself in the finale.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: You wanted a moment so badly from Teresa.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: You called her white trash, she called you a horror response,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and then you want to say, oh, your niece Antonia,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you want me to tell her that you called her
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: mother a whore.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: It's like you started it, like, and she's.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: A bitch because she's called her.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can swear this, but she's
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: called her the B word. Melissa's called Teresa the B word.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: That's Gia's mom, that's all their moms. So it doesn't
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: make sense. But what she does is she tries to
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: reach and bring the kids in it. So maybe like
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: people will for her.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Or something, but I just think it was a big reach.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: She wanted a moment because she's honestly been very irrelevant
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: this entire season, you know, and we're doing a rewatch.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: We're watching season three and season four, and our biggest
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: thing when it comes to Melissa, it's like, not even
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: about Teresa. It's about the lies that Melissa spreads, like
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: you know, it's about the comments that Melissa constantly would say,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I pay my bills unlike Teresa, knowing Teresa's going through
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: legal stuff. Carlos, if my sister in law said some
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: shit like that, I would never look at her. You
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: came on my show and you're talking shit about my finances,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I would never look twice at you ever again. So
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: she did all that stuff, you know, she always talked
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: about money. People forget because a lot of people are
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: casual viewers. But if you watch back from season three
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: and four, there's no one who tried harder than Teresa.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: So Melissa is reaching and the the only way she
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: can do it is through Teresa, just like she has
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: since season three.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: And I will say this, it's funny because in her
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: conversation with Joe, she's like, I'm gonna respect her boundaries
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: that we have, and the boundaries they have is that
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: they're not talking to her and they're not going to cure.
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: But the minute she could talk to her, she was
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: so excited to get up and like start, start, start
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: shit with Teresa.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: And Theresa doesn't even look at you. She literally does
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: not look at you.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: She doesn't think about her, She does not think about her.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: You saw she brought cookites.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it bites at her.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: Yes, oh my god, that was the most irrelevant. And
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: Jennifer's like, you did not just say sprinkle cookies.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I know, It's like what els was?
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: You were Melissa's Facebook friend when she made a post
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: about sprinkle cookies after adding all the producers.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Isn't that true?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, no, we're Facebook friends.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I never met the woman and I so again, I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: was just being honest about like and listen, it is
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: what it is. I just feel like, just be real.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: You wanted to get on the show, and it's fine.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's sort of like I.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Would admit to it, like, look, I wanted to be
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: on the show.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I befriended the producer and I wanted my time. And
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I would have said this if I was Melissa, the
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: alleged bad bitch that she is. You know, we call
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: her m low because she thinks she's Jennifer and it's
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: all good in the hood. But ladies, I would have
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: said this, I'm such a bad bitch that I got
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: on the show and I've been on for more than
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: ten seasons.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Fuck you, like I would.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I would have been so like whatever, It's not how
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I got on. It's the fact that I stayed on.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: That would have been my tagline. You know, It's not
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: how I got on, it's the fact that I stayed on.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Like Melissa, that should have been her tagline. But the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: fact that you tried to play this victim and the
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: woe is me, no one's buying it. And the fact
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: that Melissa knew I am so irrelevant on this show
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: without getting into a fight with Teresa and then to
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: do the ga five year old model posts standoff.
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: Oh like I was dying.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I really couldnot do.
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  Speaker 5: I couldnot do like she wanted to be, like, do
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: you see me like?
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: You see me like?
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: But Melissa is the most phased.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Oh she is, because listen, how you get on is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: how you get off. And I think she realized. I
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: think Melissa realized I played my cards wrong. I played
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: my cards wrong. She would have This is the sad part
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I'm in with this. Melissa. If you're listening, listen up.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: If you if you would have remained in Teresa's corner
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: as the doting sister in law, I promise.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: You you would still be on the show.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Like the show would have been Melissa and Teresa and
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: other women, I promise you, because they would have appreciated
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the fact that, yes, at the end of at the
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the DNA of this show remains
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: about family. That's what separates Jersey from New York, OHC,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Atlanta, Potomac, Beverly Hills is the fact
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that Jersey was about family. And I promise you I
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: am ninety nine point nine percent factual. In this Teresa
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: and Melissa would have remained on the show if Melissa
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: would have played her hand right because they are the
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: DNA of the motherfucking show. And the fact that she
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: was too busy of Margaret's ass smelling pepto bismo that
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: she did not realize it was going to be the
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: end of her paycheck.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: But absolutely, Carlos, we say this.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: You know, we blame a lot on Melissa, but it
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: really is Joe. Melissa is the way she is because
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: of Joe. So you know, Joe allowed this to go
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: on like they did, so I really do believe he
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: is the biggest problem in all of it.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that. I agree with that, so listen,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. I'm so happy to have
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: you too on my podcast. This will be the first
• 54:03
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• 54:06
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