Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Robert Poznanovich, Chief Growth Officer at Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation
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- 0:24This is Scott King with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:26podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:29Bob Poznanovich,
- 0:30chief growth officer at Hazelyn Betty Ford Foundation.
- 0:34Bob, how's it going? Thanks so much for
- 0:35joining us today. Hey. Great, Scott. Thanks for
- 0:37having me. I think we're gonna have a
- 0:39great conversation and kinda dive into, you know,
- 0:41a lot of the big opportunities and challenges
- 0:43in health care today. But before we dive
- 0:45into all that, can you please just tell
- 0:46us a little bit more about yourself and
- 0:48your background?
- 0:49Sure.
- 0:50I am the chief growth officer at Hazel
- 0:52and Betty Ford, which has lots of different
- 0:54areas of responsibility
- 0:57in developing the relationships and partnerships
- 1:00with the business the business to business communities
- 1:02that refer patients to us and partner with
- 1:04us. But I also represent
- 1:06the entire,
- 1:08enterprise
- 1:09as far as making,
- 1:11our product services,
- 1:14available,
- 1:15to the communities we serve. And as a
- 1:17nonprofit, we have a long history
- 1:19of knowledge sharing. So it's trying to create
- 1:22those pathways that help it help more patients
- 1:24get help and for us to share our
- 1:26knowledge,
- 1:27with the industry.
- 1:29I've been here for about fifteen years, and
- 1:31prior to that, I was the founder and
- 1:32CIO of AIR Health, which is a behavioral
- 1:34health company.
- 1:35And then prior to that, I did,
- 1:38twenty years in the high-tech, mostly startups.
- 1:42Wonderful. Appreciate you sharing all the background. I
- 1:44feel very interesting.
- 1:46And getting getting to the great work
- 1:49at Betty Ford, I'm just curious what
- 1:52accomplishments you're most proud of from the past
- 1:54year.
- 1:55Yeah. I think well, I think in the
- 1:56past the past year has been yeah. I
- 1:59think we if we look at the addiction
- 2:00treatment world today and we look at the
- 2:02changing patient
- 2:03expectations
- 2:04and then the patient needs, I think the
- 2:06thing that I'm most proud of, I think
- 2:08that we're most proud of, that we accomplished,
- 2:11last year
- 2:13is
- 2:14our evolution of our mission
- 2:16and our care to do more integration
- 2:19of mental health and substance use and to
- 2:21create new
- 2:22co occurring
- 2:24mental health and substance use substance use disorder
- 2:27programs,
- 2:28and that we're opening up new service lines
- 2:31and new facilities to support the growing needs
- 2:33of these more complex patients. I would also
- 2:35say I I I
- 2:37do wanna miss the thing I think that
- 2:39we're most proud of too. One of the
- 2:40things that we're most proud of too is
- 2:42that last this year, we celebrated our seventy
- 2:44fifth anniversary. You know, Hazel Betty Ford was
- 2:46one of the pioneers in addiction treatment. They're
- 2:49founded back in 1949.
- 2:50And then in 1982, we merged with the
- 2:52Betty Ford Center who also celebrated,
- 2:54you know, its fortieth anniversary. So we had
- 2:56a lot of years of of first or
- 2:58or or or years of recognition last year.
- 3:01But I think also that,
- 3:03our continued focus through some general
- 3:05generation generation of,
- 3:07of donations
- 3:09generous donations that we've been able to establish
- 3:12a national center for for family and children
- 3:14so that we could continue to evolve treatment
- 3:17to the families, which is really important in
- 3:18need, and to children whose parents are struggling
- 3:21with substance use that we continue to expand,
- 3:23you know, our research and care and to
- 3:25share that knowledge and care with anybody in
- 3:27The US who needs that help.
- 3:29I wanna ask you about
- 3:31technology.
- 3:32I'm sure, obviously, developments technology help
- 3:35you and your colleagues with the work you
- 3:36do with Betty Ford. But is it also
- 3:39does it also create challenges when you're when
- 3:40you're dealing with patients and people you're trying
- 3:43to help and and
- 3:44how there's such easy access to things that
- 3:46they might be abusing or attempted to abuse?
- 3:49Yeah. I mean, that that's a really good
- 3:50question. I think that that's one of I
- 3:53think our challenges moving forward
- 3:56is
- 3:58how do we meet the changing expectations
- 4:02of consumers
- 4:03as it relates
- 4:05to how they want how they
- 4:07look for care,
- 4:09how they engage in care, and what they
- 4:11expect care to look like.
- 4:13One of the initiatives that we're working on
- 4:15and that we've worked on
- 4:18over the last couple of years is to
- 4:19create
- 4:20new digital patient pathways
- 4:23to kind of make make help us meet
- 4:25patients where they're at
- 4:27in not only their disease, but also in
- 4:29their decision making process.
- 4:32So we can make care more accessible
- 4:35and easier to access,
- 4:38more confidential.
- 4:39And I think,
- 4:41you know, we're faced with some of the
- 4:42challenges of emerging new of new tech companies,
- 4:45you know, who keep moving into the the
- 4:47behavioral health space
- 4:49who,
- 4:50you know, are are are bringing a lot
- 4:52of solutions to market quickly. And how do
- 4:55we compete with that while we're still holding
- 4:57true to, you know, our long term model
- 5:00of care? You know, combining that that science,
- 5:04evidence based therapies with spiritual, mental, physical well-being,
- 5:08as well as communities. I think that's the
- 5:10challenge for us is to be true to
- 5:11our model, but also to evolve it in
- 5:13a digital world.
- 5:15What are the big organizational goals you've set
- 5:18for 2025?
- 5:20To continue to integrate
- 5:22and expand,
- 5:23our mental health
- 5:25and substance use treatment
- 5:27and to continue to to hire,
- 5:30the staff recruit and hire and retain the
- 5:32staff that is qualified
- 5:34to
- 5:35deliver these different,
- 5:37forms of treatment,
- 5:39to meet
- 5:41the, again, the complexities of the patients,
- 5:43that we're seeing.
- 5:46What headwinds do you anticipate for the next
- 5:47year or two? Well,
- 5:49that's a great question. If you, you know,
- 5:51I think if you think of us as
- 5:52an organization,
- 5:54I think that we're we've got a lot
- 5:56of challenge. I mean, the things that pop
- 5:57up always are, you know, payer payer reimbursement
- 6:01rates.
- 6:02I think if you look at digital security,
- 6:04you know, and and rev cycle management and
- 6:07staff retention, as I mentioned, I think those
- 6:09are all the issues facing,
- 6:11the organizations. If I think about me specifically,
- 6:15you know, in in my organizational
- 6:17growth,
- 6:18I think,
- 6:19I think it is,
- 6:20continue to grow demand
- 6:23and to understand,
- 6:25the changing
- 6:27patterns of consumers
- 6:29to to find effective,
- 6:31ways to acquire patients,
- 6:34while the cost of acquisition is growing.
- 6:37I think we see a lot of patients
- 6:38today using kind of that word, that shopper,
- 6:41who are more confused trying to navigate behavioral
- 6:44health, you know, as ever before.
- 6:46I think many of them are turning to
- 6:47doctor Google
- 6:48and,
- 6:50you know, finding easy access on ramps
- 6:53that,
- 6:54may not be what they need, but maybe
- 6:56what what they were trying to do. And
- 6:57then what happens to those patients and where
- 6:59do they fit fall into,
- 7:01the cracks when, you know, those levels of
- 7:04intervention
- 7:05don't provide the help they need?
- 7:08You know, what do they do next? I
- 7:09think, you know, the headwind is
- 7:11is trying to,
- 7:13look at new ways to to engage patients
- 7:16and to provide the services that they're looking
- 7:18for and then to expand our continuum
- 7:21to support them in the way they wanna
- 7:22be supported so that, you know, the emphasis
- 7:24on digital and virtual product development will be
- 7:26important.
- 7:28You shared a lot about your career at
- 7:30the start of the podcast.
- 7:31How are you evolving as a
- 7:32leader?
- 7:34That's a really good question too.
- 7:37Yeah. We we put a lot of work
- 7:38into our DEI initiatives this year,
- 7:41and I think that that's opened my eyes
- 7:43to opportunity for inclusion.
- 7:46I think as an individual,
- 7:48I am
- 7:49really working to understand
- 7:52the crossroads
- 7:53of traditional patient care
- 7:56and and the digital world. So I personally
- 7:58been investing a lot of time and effort
- 8:00into,
- 8:01technology,
- 8:02AI,
- 8:03and,
- 8:05growing need to bring technology into all of
- 8:07our patient interactions.
- 8:08And one of my areas of responsibility
- 8:11is our first call for help teams. And,
- 8:14you know, how do we continue to evolve
- 8:16that patient journey? How do we use AI
- 8:20to help make our
- 8:21first call for help,
- 8:23staff
- 8:24more effective?
- 8:27And, you know, how do we use technology
- 8:28to better understand
- 8:30our patients, their needs, and to personalized care
- 8:33for them? You know, on a on another
- 8:34personal level, since we're talking today, Skye, I
- 8:36will share that. I am excited today to
- 8:39to that I am celebrating my thirtieth year
- 8:41of recovery.
- 8:42Not only am I a Hazel and exec,
- 8:44but, thirty years ago, I was a Hazel
- 8:45and Betty Ford patient.
- 8:47And I think, you know,
- 8:49living my life's journey in recovery,
- 8:52being able to mix that combination of business
- 8:56and recovery
- 8:58experience
- 8:59to helping us guide, you know, where we
- 9:01need to go in the future and then
- 9:02also, you know, how I practice those principles
- 9:05at all of my affairs,
- 9:07you know, within, our organization
- 9:09has been something that I've been focusing on.
- 9:12Well, a big congratulations on that, Bob, and
- 9:14thank you very much for sharing. I'm sure
- 9:16that experience has made you a huge asset
- 9:18to everybody you're helping over there. And thanks
- 9:20so much for joining us. It was a
- 9:21great conversation, and I look forward to working
- 9:23with you again soon. Thank you. Thank you
- 9:25very much.