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Mac & Bone Show - Fred Segal Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It is time now to bring in a man who
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  Speaker 1: is the creator of freezing Cold takes to your to
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  Speaker 1: your reference there. Bone. It is just known all across
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  Speaker 1: the internet for just exposing people Bone that have bad
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  Speaker 1: sports takes, and it is freaking hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes friends sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: And he's got a book out there right now, specifically,
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  Speaker 1: he is putting a book out specifically about college football,
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  Speaker 1: Freezing Cold Takes. It is Freezing Cold Takes college Football
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  Speaker 1: and incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate statements. And
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  Speaker 1: he is Fred Siegel, demand behind Freezing Cold Takes. And
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  Speaker 1: he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Fred,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, man, how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: He's doing great, Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 2: Fred.
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  Speaker 1: We even though we often will have some cold takes,
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  Speaker 1: we do enjoy like everybody does, mocking other people's. How
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  Speaker 1: did you come up with the idea that there is
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  Speaker 1: like that there would be such a need, want and desire,
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  Speaker 1: such a market for bad takes.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't actually know there was going to be such
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  Speaker 3: a desire for it when I came up with it.
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  Speaker 3: I was just I was seeing journalists and reporters and
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  Speaker 3: personalities posting a lot of their accurate takes or predictions.
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  Speaker 3: Like there was posts on Twitter just like I.
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  Speaker 4: Said yesterday and then post that old prediction that they
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  Speaker 4: made and say it was right, and I would remember
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  Speaker 4: that that same person got like two ridiculously wrong predictions
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  Speaker 4: the week before, and I was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: So I.
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  Speaker 3: Just decided I'll be the one that posted their bad ones,
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  Speaker 3: and I created a feed and then I guess a
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  Speaker 3: couple people picked up on it, and then everyone started
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  Speaker 3: to really enjoy it. So that's how I found out.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is one of the most popular sports
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  Speaker 2: feeds out there, to be honest. Now, what led to
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  Speaker 2: this college football book? Because this is not your first book,
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  Speaker 2: right of an NFL one that you've done before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did the NFL book, But I think
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  Speaker 3: the college football, which is my favorite sports, is like
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  Speaker 3: the gold mine of predictions in every which way. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's so many teams, there's so many players, there's just
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  Speaker 3: all the fans get super emotional, even all the reporters
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  Speaker 3: overreact to everything, and there's narratives all over the place
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  Speaker 3: that you can use for any data point or any game,
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  Speaker 3: any performance.
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  Speaker 1: So what are hit us with some of your favorites
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  Speaker 1: from the book. You know, it's four hundred pages. Babies,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad takes. But what are some
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  Speaker 1: of your favorite college football bad takes?
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  Speaker 3: Well, one of them is had. I mean, there's plenty
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  Speaker 3: of them in the book to highlight when Nick Davin
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  Speaker 3: was hired by Alabama, and I think there was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of journalists and personalities who really thought that he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't going to be there for a long time and
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna be able to work the same magic
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  Speaker 3: that he did again. Tell us you like one guy
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  Speaker 3: from Atlanta, his name is Jeff Schultz. He said that
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  Speaker 3: he was writing in the in the in the Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: Internal Constitution, which is the newspaper there. He said that that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Nick Saban wasn't going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: create exactly what he did before. And he said that
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  Speaker 3: Alabama's not the same job as it used to be.
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  Speaker 3: He said, Alabama is now the second best job in
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  Speaker 3: the state behind Auburn and Troy's closing in a number two.
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  Speaker 3: And he said the days of earc are gone. And
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  Speaker 3: the bigger problem is that nobody in Tusca loser realizes that. Man, no,
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  Speaker 3: it was yeah, it was completely wrong. I mean there's
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  Speaker 3: other ones like Kirby Smart. The coaches are a great topic.
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  Speaker 3: Kirby Smart when he was at Georgia, his first season
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  Speaker 3: wasn't particularly great, and then he lost a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bad games. I think we lost to Vanderbilt's home in
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  Speaker 3: Vanderbilt wasn't very good then, So there was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of injecture about how it was they were just completely
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  Speaker 3: stupid from firing Mark Rick and hiring Kirby Smart. And
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff like that there. There's all
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  Speaker 3: shorts of topics. I mean, I go back to the
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  Speaker 3: eighties and nineties. I mean when Jimmy Johnson was hired Miami,
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  Speaker 3: the journalists at h in Miami writing in the newspaper
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  Speaker 3: were not excited about it at all. I mean one
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  Speaker 3: wrote boo and all capital letters.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of a lot of it is doubting
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  Speaker 1: the coach hires. That ended up being all I can
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  Speaker 1: relate Fred because I didn't like the Dabbo hire for Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: For Clemson, Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's in there. A lot of dabos. I even got.
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  Speaker 3: I talked to Adam Gold the other day. He was
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  Speaker 3: he's right in there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's in He's in the book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on next What did he what did he do?
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  Speaker 3: He was making fun of I think the name of
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  Speaker 3: the athletic director at the time was Terry Don Phillips. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he made fun of his name. I don't remember what
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  Speaker 3: he called some sort of other three name names and
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  Speaker 3: then uh and he but this was during the tenure.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was after his second season, Davo. They won.
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  Speaker 3: They went six and six maybe, I like to say,
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  Speaker 3: and it was two I think it was twenty ten
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  Speaker 3: season and they played the bowl game and they got
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  Speaker 3: destroyed in that bowl game. Yes, and it was one
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  Speaker 3: of the best bowl games?
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  Speaker 4: Is he?
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  Speaker 3: And he said, Adam Gold And I talked to him
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  Speaker 3: about this on the show. I think it was yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He said it was a Minucke car Care Bowl against
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  Speaker 3: South Florida, and he said, will Joe Don Baker Terry
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  Speaker 3: fire Yabba dabout swinging after this game and bringing a
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  Speaker 3: real head coach.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, that's strong, My god, that is strong. And
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  Speaker 1: there's something about a two bone when you put it in,
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  Speaker 1: like when you put it when you type it out
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, it's like a permanent record of it. Like
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  Speaker 1: on the radio. Fred we could kind of say it
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  Speaker 1: and then like you know what I mean, like we
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  Speaker 1: can kind of weasel out a little easier.
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  Speaker 2: We can lie about it.
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  Speaker 1: There's all You've got to be accountable when you post
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  Speaker 1: it on Twitter, That's right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean radio is easier for to go. I heard
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  Speaker 3: that many TV sometimes. I think, especially the bigger, the
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  Speaker 3: bigger national shows. I think if they have a social
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  Speaker 3: media scene, who's giddy to post all the takes as
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  Speaker 3: they happen? Yes, as the person says it, And so
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  Speaker 3: those are usually memorialized on social media too.
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  Speaker 2: Fred if there was a mount rushmore of either take
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  Speaker 2: artists or just individual takes, would would Beato Cooks Ron
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  Speaker 2: Paulus Notre Dame nineteen ninety three, take beyond there about
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  Speaker 2: all us winning multiple heismans on Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say so. I mean I have a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I have about four or five pages about that case
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  Speaker 3: alone in the book, just the background behind it and
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  Speaker 3: everything and the crazy thing. Back then, be O Cook
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  Speaker 3: said that freshman quarterback Ron Palace for Notre Dame was
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  Speaker 3: going to win two heismands, and it's a Notre Dame
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  Speaker 3: was going to win two national champions because when he
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  Speaker 3: was a quarterback He didn't just say two. He says
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  Speaker 3: at least two. But back then that was the crazy take.
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  Speaker 3: Like there wasn't many other crazy proclamations being made by anybody,
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  Speaker 3: and especially on national TV. So that but now they're
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  Speaker 3: just thrown all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you get It's so true though, so many
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  Speaker 1: more takes to choose from now.
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  Speaker 2: When I've got into radio. I used to have to
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  Speaker 2: call Bino Cook for guest spots to come on the show.
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  Speaker 2: It was unlike anything I've ever seen before because I
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  Speaker 2: would call his house, he go leave a message after
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  Speaker 2: the beep beep, and then I would start talking and
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  Speaker 2: he'd be he was there live.
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  Speaker 1: He messed with it.
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  Speaker 2: Go all right, I'm here live. What do you need?
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  Speaker 2: Like he wasn't even a recording.
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  Speaker 1: That too, wasn't original. He was an original man. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking to Fred Siegel, the man behind Freezing Cold Takes.
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  Speaker 1: There's a special Freezing colt Takes College Football book that
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  Speaker 1: is released today. It's out and about Freezing Cold Takes
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  Speaker 1: College Football and incomplete history of the game's most inaccurate
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  Speaker 1: statement in predictions that we found out our buddy Adam
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  Speaker 1: Gold is included. All right before we let you go.
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  Speaker 1: I just like in sh is there, do y'all keep
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  Speaker 1: track of like the top most like cold takers? Like
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  Speaker 1: I like, my guess would be, like if you include
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  Speaker 1: like the Twitter account and everything over the years, my
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  Speaker 1: guess would be Skip Bayless like leads the nation in
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  Speaker 1: freezing colt takes. Do you guys do you keep track of,
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  Speaker 1: like who you have done the most?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't actually have a tally of Skip Bayless
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  Speaker 3: kind of don't use anymore. I think he's so unseerious.
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's it's not even worth using him.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's almost like he's posts things just so
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  Speaker 3: he could be discun Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's trying. He's trying to make cowhard.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe uh uh Clay Travis, but before he was doing sport.
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  Speaker 3: Those type of guys probably are on the seed the
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  Speaker 3: most couples and stuff. But I don't really keep track.
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  Speaker 3: But it also depends on how much how many posts
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  Speaker 3: or proclamations to make their very findable in the media.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. That's why that's why I feel like in
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  Speaker 1: Little Old Charlotte, I feel like we could be the
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  Speaker 1: league leaders bone.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, I mean, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 2: Cowhard always has his takes out there, so that's probably
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like proud you you said it, Fred, Some
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  Speaker 1: guys are and some places are almost proud of their
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  Speaker 1: hosts absurd takes. You know what I mean. Maybe we
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  Speaker 1: need to get more over, Maybe we need to get
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  Speaker 1: more proud of our absurd takes. Bony, although Skip does
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  Speaker 1: have that one all Timer on first take when he
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  Speaker 1: said that Johnny Menzel was going to be bigger in
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland than Lebron James ever, was that is true? That's
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  Speaker 1: that's on the rushmore too, right there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. Or Calvert in twenty fourteen said Dak
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  Speaker 3: Prescott will be a backup in the NFL period at
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  Speaker 3: tight end period.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a bad one. That's a bad one, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I love talking about other people's bad ones. Bound we'd
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  Speaker 1: ignore ours. Worried about it, all right? He is Fred
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  Speaker 1: Siegel to book Everybody is Freezing Call Takes College Football
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  Speaker 1: and in Complete History of the Game's most inaccurate statements
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  Speaker 1: and predictions. And Fred, I'm guessing it's it's it's in
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  Speaker 1: bookstores and it's you know, everywhere you could buy books.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and uh online anyway, you buy books like
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  Speaker 3: Amazon and Starge and Noble online, so yeah, easy to
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  Speaker 3: be fined, easy buy,