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View From The Street: Ten Years After Brexit: Voices from the Street · The Discussion Podcast

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On the line now, coming live from somewhere in Ultringham, is our James Spencer,
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journalist and the man behind Views in the Street. James, how are you?
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I'm good, thanks. I've never been here before. I've just plunged myself in the
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middle of Starbucks coffee in Sainsbury's to try and get you everything as quick as we can.
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It sounds like you're in the middle of New York, to be honest.
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It's quite busy and noisy.
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So it's now 10 years since the UK voted to leave Europe.
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The famous or infamous Brexit vote. And you said we should do this topic,
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and that was because Andy Burnham has been raising the whole subject again.
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Exactly, yeah. And it was something I always wanted to do, obviously,
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from the street, but it needed an inflection point as to why we should do it.
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And like you said, because it's become topical, it's been in the news lately,
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the Labour Party conference, Andy Burnham raising it.
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It seemed like this was the perfect time to finally, I don't know,
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This is our 139th episode, so it felt like a good time to finally make it on people's history.
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I mean, it's one of those topics that sometimes people don't want to speak about.
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Sometimes people are very keen to speak about.
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It was such a division at the time.
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But today, I find that people were very...
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Chatty when they started talking about it do you know it wasn't yeah it wasn't
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as bad as i expected because i was anticipating that,
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it's going to be a hard slog but it wasn't i'm happy about that and i i have
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to say it was one or two people completely surprised me and and and it reminded
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me never never make big assumptions and,
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i i gotta say our 90 year old lady who looked like she was 80 at the most and
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it was extremely eloquent she she was one of those surprises really wasn't she,
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yeah i'm just editing that part now actually and i think that she,
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she didn't look 90 at all i was shocked when she said that she looked more like 75 i thought 78.
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Uh she had she had like nice hair she had a makeup on she had like color color
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scheme like like it was like an orangey,
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blouse like jumper matching her trousers she had like was it dior glasses on
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so she was like very sophisticated gene from temperley was looking cracking actually i gotta say,
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she was looking dapper as you would say well i gotta tell you what let's get
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into it you're listening to the late late lunch show on radio alti
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so good afternoon rod we're in a wet and damp altering them today how are you
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doing i'm all right i'm i'm not too bad it is it is damp But at least it's not
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cold, James. It's not cold. It's all right.
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It's relatively mild, isn't it? Relatively mild.
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Not like the international political climate at the moment. You couldn't say
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it's mild, could you? No, it's not. Spicy. Spicy.
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And what's your opinion of today's topic on 10 years after Brexit? 10 years on. So I...
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I guess from my own perspective, the world in 10 years has changed massively.
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In that time, we've had COVID, for example. We have wars in the Middle East.
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We've got the situation with the Ukraine and Russia.
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We have got, for example, the rise of AI and more industries becoming borderless as well.
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We have an increase in right-wing movements across the world.
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The world that we went into Brexit with is totally different to the world we're now in.
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And any assumptions people might have had about what we could do seem like they're
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being blown open by what's happening internationally.
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So I'm really interested to see whether people are still as enthusiastic about
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Brexit if they were originally, or whether they feel like the political context,
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the international context, the economic context has changed so much.
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That they would rather be closer to Europe right now.
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Yeah. And we know that this is in Andy Burnham's thoughts because he's raised
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it in the Labour Party conference recently.
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And also opinion polls have shown, well, actually when the Green Party lost
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in London, Zach Polanski lost, it was because apparently Labour voters that
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voted in, well, basically Labour won that seat.
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Basically, they want to give Andy Burnham a chance. So whatever his policy is
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on Europe, they want to give him a chance in terms of his overall agenda.
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So what's your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, I can, I can, well, that's tactical voting, isn't it? I mean,
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of the people who voted for Brexit back 10 years ago, first of all,
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how many of them are still alive? You know, you've got that dimension.
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How many people would still vote for it?
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But even Europe has changed. Europe has become more right-wing in that time.
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Is it a good time to re-enter in a right-wing Europe as well?
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And would we have the same respect?
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Would we have the same control or leverage that we had when we left?
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And even then, it was lower than it should have been.
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But it looks like we're stagnant in the world, politically, economically,
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and economically and it looks like the people we might have thought were our
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partners Trump for example America,
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he's been extremely openly critical of this country to the point where I think
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it's actually quite embarrassing he's not hiding that now there's the midterms
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coming up and that's probably part of his rhetoric but so.
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Where do we who do we deal with, who do we actually do deals with,
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we do deals with Europe and we're not in it, but would they take us back?
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I'm pretty sure Trump has a Scottish grandmother or is it his mother?
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He actually really likes the royal family and tradition. He might do,
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but he's not showing any respect to the nation at the moment.
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That's a whole different ballgame.
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It'd be really interesting to see where people's mindset is today.
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For those who are happy to talk about voting for Brexit, are they still as certain
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about it today as they were 10 years ago. 10 years is a long time.
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And there's so many different layers to this, like not being part of the European
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Common Market, the divorce bill that they're still paying off,
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and driving up the price of living, cost of living for food and housing and everything else.
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And even the fact that we now have to have our own separate,
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whenever we're traveling, we can't go with everyone else. We have to go for the non-EU.
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But at the same time, Europe is changing as well. and it feels like it's not
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as unified as it used to be.
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It's a different place. Just the world, from a geopolitical point of view, is in a mess.
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But would it have been better for us to be part of a bloc, i.e.
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In the EU, while this mess is going on?
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Because it still feels like we haven't completely left it because we're in different
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organizations. We're trying to do deals now with individuals within that bloc, like Germany.
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I don't know myself, but I'd be intrigued to find out what the people of Alti think today.
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Do you have any predictions, by the way? no i don't i i think i actually,
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part of me thinks that people will be looking at it differently but i don't
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know i really don't know we'll find out when we start talking okay i'll give
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my view later and let's see what everyone's view from the street is ng,
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so good afternoon sir welcome to view from the street with myself james spencer
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and rob maxwell here at radio ulti in alchheim today and asking you today about
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10 years on from brexit i just wanted to know from you what's your opinion,
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on the whole Brexit issue and leaving the EU?
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I think Brexit happened when I was 17. If I was three months older,
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I would have been able to vote.
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I think for everyone I know in my age group, had the decision been a year later,
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I think it would have swung the other way.
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We now know that Russia interfered with Brexit as well.
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So I think in the light of that, there should be another referendum.
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I don't think it will happen.
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If it does, it's going to be at least a decade from now, but it's what the public
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do want. The only reason they wouldn't want it is because of the faff and the
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fuss that comes with it but I think the mood is very much remain.
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Do you think part of that is that geopolitically the world has changed dramatically
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in the last 10 years and actually people that we thought we could work with
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we can't do now or is less likely to be able to?
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I don't think that's as much of a factor as people think. I think it's more
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down to the fact that the reasons people voted to leave have very much backfired.
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One of the main policies was,
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More funding for the NHS. The NHS is in more debt. Safer shores.
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And now we're looking at all the issues with the small boats.
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Immigration is, well, illegal migration has increased massively post-Brexit,
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specifically under Conservative leadership.
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So yeah, I think the very reason people voted for Brexit didn't work.
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So for that reason, they go the other way. So on the simple things,
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the obvious things, do you think actually it's backfired, really?
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I think it's essentially, yeah. The reasons people voted for Brexit haven't,
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so that's not materialized.
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So people will feel duped. I think they'd want to give the EU another shot.
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You're listening to the Late Late Lunch Show on Radio Alty.
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So good afternoon, madam. This is Jamie Spencer and Rob Maxwell for View from
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the Street on Radio Alty on a Monday afternoon.
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And today, so we're asking about Brexit 10 years on. And I just wanted to know
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from you whether this was a mistake from the country.
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I think now it was a mistake because it just caused so many people so much hassle,
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red tape, et cetera. So yes, that's my answer.
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And do you think that if they were presented with more information about it
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now, they would vote differently? Yes, definitely.
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I think they would, even if they didn't get more information because it's been
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tried and tested and it hasn't worked.
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If you were to say something that's backfired, what do you think that would be most of all?
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I think it's more business owners that have suffered the most with it.
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You know, there's so much red tape for them now and it's caused so many businesses,
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I think, to go bust in the long run. So I think from their point of view...
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That's been a big mistake. So good afternoon, ladies. On View from the Street
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today on Radio Walthy, we're asking people 10 years on for Brexit,
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do they think with all this going on, people would vote differently and what's
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their personal opinion?
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Madam, can I ask, what do you think? 10 years on, do you think you would vote
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differently or do you think the country would?
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I think possibly the country might. I voted to remain and I would still vote to remain.
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I don't think Europe is perfect. I think some things would need to change,
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but I would feel safer and more secure as part of a bigger group of countries and nations.
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Do you think some of the reasons people thought that we could exit Europe was
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that we could trade with other nations like America, for example?
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It feels to me like America is sort of sticking two fingers up at us at times.
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Do you think there's that element of it, the pure economic element of it?
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Definitely. I mean, we voted to leave, so I bought into that and was looking
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forward to, yeah, new trading partners, Singapore, all sorts of things that were talked about.
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And I think that's been massively disappointing. I think Donald Trump possibly
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hasn't helped that, but there you go.
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Can I ask you, Madam, you mentioned that you had actually voted to leave.
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I did. How would you vote today if you had the chance? Remain.
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I regretted voting the way I did. And what do you think led you to vote the way that you did?
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Well, I just felt at times we weren't always treated fairly in the EU.
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And I thought coming out of it, it will improve, but it hasn't.
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And what do you think is the biggest issue that we have now outside of the EU?
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Dare I say Donald Trump and America. And he seems quite provocative at times. Just quite?
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He's not got any diplomatic manners or anything, I don't think,
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and we seem to be at odds with them. If we don't do what he wants us to do.
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We seem to be at odds. And now with what's happening in the Ukraine,
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I would rather be part of a greater Europe.
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And of course, he's just done a fuel deal with Russia, which apparently,
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although it might be billions of gallons, is probably one day's worth in America.
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It just doesn't feel like you know who to trust anymore.
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Well, I don't trust him because he started with the Straits of Hormuz and it's
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now progressed and it's got worse. And I think it was wrong what he did.
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Trump. And it's made the whole situation for the world a lot worse.
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It's been a mad ten years, hasn't it? Yes, and I haven't got children,
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but I feel sorry for people that have. Where's the hope?
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Exactly. Yes, it's a strange world at the moment. It's a very strange world.
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It seems to get stranger every day.
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Well, there you go. Well, Alti's dry and you're off for lunch,
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so enjoy it. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.
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So, good afternoon. Today on View from the Street and Radio Alti,
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we're asking people about Brexit 10 years on, would the UK vote to leave still
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with everything else that's going on in the world?
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What was your opinions on that? I don't think they would, no.
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I don't think people knew what Brexit was going to look like.
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Nobody knew what Brexit was going to look like. David Cameron didn't know what
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Brexit was going to look like.
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So I think it came as a bit of a shock to people and it's not really delivered
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in the way that people expected.
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So I think, no, I think people would not vote to leave.
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Do you think people would feel strongly enough about it to rerun the referendum?
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If Andy Burnham's government said this is a key foreign policy strategy for
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us, do you think there would be support for rerunning it again?
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Possibly. Some people definitely. Well, I think a large group of the population probably would.
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But I really don't know.
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It was tough going. You know, the whole trying to get used to being out of the
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EU and then what kind of negotiations would have to take place.
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I mean, what would it be like? Would we have to have the euro?
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I think people would be against that.
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I really don't know whether there would be enough people wanting it,
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to be honest, if it really came down to it and they started going into the nitty gritty of it all.
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We're stuck between a rock and a hard place really, aren't we?
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Because in some ways, we don't really have as many friends internationally anymore
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the way things have worked out. It's hard to know which way to go really.
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Well, no, yes, I agree with you. But,
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I mean, if we could align ourselves more closely with the EU without actually... Taking Europe?
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Yeah, and without going back into it kind of full-time, well,
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you know, big style, the way that they would expect it of us.
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A full member, I mean, that might be the way forward, but I don't really know.
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Right. Thank you for your view.
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So, good afternoon, Madden. This is Jay Spencer and Rob Maxwell for View from
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the Street on Radio Alty and Rob Maxwell, The Late Late Lunch Show.
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So today we're doing 10 years on from Brexit and just wanted to know what your
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opinion is on Brexit. Is this something that is personal to you and as do you
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believe that Britain should have left or do you think that they have missed out by leaving?
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I think that Britain should have stayed where they were because we were doing
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very well, thank you very much.
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And there was no reason. And I don't often agree with Andy Burnham,
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but I do agree with him that there was some sort of a fudge,
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some sort of… Was this the Russian influence you're meaning here? I'm not sure.
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I wouldn't commit to saying who it was. Yes.
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But certainly someone interfered because so many people that I knew,
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obviously, it's my age. I mean, I'm 90 years old now.
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So I remember about what was going on.
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And we've always been very close to the Europeans and we've always had a good
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relationship with America until recently. But to me,
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We are closer to Europe in as much as we fought a war with Europe.
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And I remember that well.
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I also remember that if it hadn't been for December the 7th.
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Pearl Harbor, the Americans wouldn't be there.
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I mean, admittedly, when they came, they helped us win the war.
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But now I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Do you think, because you said you're 90, by the way. Yes, I am.
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You're a very fresh-looking 90-year-old, may I say. A lot of people thought
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that your type of generation would have been more about getting out.
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No, no, no, no. No, I totally disagree.
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I totally disagree. My generation don't particularly like change.
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And there was no reason to change.
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There's no reason at all to change.
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We were doing quite well. We traded with Europe.
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And as far as I'm concerned, I was absolutely amazed, as was David Cameron, I think, to be fair.
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I mean, what has gone right for us since then, really, because there's been
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such a lot of animosity amongst us all.
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So good afternoon, sir. This is James Spencer and Rob Maxwell for View from
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the Street on Radio Alty. Today, on a Monday afternoon, we're asking about Brexit, 10 years on.
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I just wanted to know from you whether you think this was the right decision from the country.
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Yeah, at the time, yeah. I voted out, yeah.
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And now, would you make the same decision? wavering a bit.
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I'm wavering a bit and I think if we get back in Brexit maybe we'll stop the
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illegal migrants or have more the Schengen Agreement which stops them travelling from,
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where you've got to stay in the first safe country. Do you think.
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So many of the assumptions have changed around Brexit that the world is a massively
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different place even 10 years on?
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Is that something that might... It is a different place isn't it yeah it is
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a different place it's a scary place isn't it is isn't it it's changed a lot
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in 10 years yeah well I just feel for my kids and grandkids what's going on and
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whether Brexit would you know rejoining Brexit would have any impact on what's going on,
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in Ukraine or Iran I don't think it would but,
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If it was put to a vote, I think I'd probably go with having a look at it again, maybe rejoining.
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I'd want to see, you know, the last time we paid billions, didn't we?
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And they changed stuff, you know, like they went from pounds to litres and couldn't
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sell bananas, you know, all silly things. Yeah.
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So I definitely voted to leave last time.
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I think it was all right at the time. Sure. 10 years on, as you say, I'm not sure.
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I'd like to see more of the arguments for going back in, which Andy Burnham,
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in his wisdom, will no doubt be trolling all over the papers and the news in
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the next 6-12 months, won't we? So we'll have a look.
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So maybe have a referendum on whether we should have a vote.
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So one vote is a referendum for a vote, and then the next referendum is for
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Breakfast for Europe. So two different ones. Well, I don't know.
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If he calls an election on the proviso that if he vote for me,
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we're going to rejoin the union. That'll be another different issue, won't it?
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That would be an interesting perspective. But I'm not sure that...
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I voted Labour. I voted Brexit to get out.
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But I've always voted Labour. I've been disappointed with Starmer and hasn't everybody.
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We'll give Burnham a chance. We've got to, haven't we? There's nobody left.
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So we'll see. But yeah, to answer your question, I would give it a bit more thinking about.
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I want to see the... Be presented with the full facts this time and then make a decision. Yeah, yeah.
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So can I ask constitutionally, do you think, because at the time,
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I think David Cameron said it's a once-in-a-lifetime, you know, it's a one-time show.
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Do you think there is any grounds by which the current Labour government could
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turn around and say, we think actually it's appropriate to rerun that referendum?
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Difficult to say at the moment because there's such a lot going on with the
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government at the moment. They've got a lot of plates in the air,
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if you like, for want of a better expression.
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And obviously their prime concern at the moment is a budget.
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They can't focus really on anything else until that's out of the way because
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somebody's going to get upset.
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Somebody's going to not agree or whatever.
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So I think we'll have to wait for the decision from the government to decide.
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I think he is pro-Europe, obviously, but depending on what they decide will
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depend on what the British people, how they view him.
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The British people are very fickle. They're very, very fickle. They sort of...
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Swing They do swing Yeah they do swing I mean.
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I mean A lot of my age group Don't want to talk politics Religion politics To
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my Two favourite subjects I know they get Banned but I don't I don't want to
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argue about them But why not talk about them Exactly.
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Can I Can I ask In your 90 years of life Have you ever known A more Unbalanced
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Delicate time Internationally No I haven't,
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There's only the war that I can focus on. And in the war, Hitler,
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we totally misread that guy.
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I mean, he was an absolute head case, as far as I'm concerned.
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And we ignored it.
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But now with, you know, sort of technology and that sort of thing,
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of which I know absolutely nothing about, we're a bit more circumspect.
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I think that's the word. Yeah, yeah.
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But as I say, I've never known times like these. I've never ever known times like these.
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I mean, I can remember 1930, 1940.
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I was only a child then. I remember the end of the war. I remember the carnage of that.
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But this is different. This is a bit more subtle. Yes.
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And that's actually one of the challenging things about it. It's not in your
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face. It's not on land. It's behind the scenes, isn't it? You've got to.
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I never read the papers. I'm another nude watcher, but I never read the papers.
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And I can, you know. But say I'm another nude watcher, which lots of people my generation know.
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So anyway. Well, thank you for stopping with us. My pleasure.
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All right, Rod. How do you think that went? Well, it was good to get so many opinions.
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And I'll be honest, I'm not entirely surprised.
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I'll tell you the one that did
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surprise me was the lady who's 90 being so against Brexit to begin with.
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And I think some people take the view that older people just naturally voted to leave.
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And you've got to realize that there are always differences of opinion.
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You can't just say it's a broad brush. But I think generally what we heard there
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was, even from people who voted for Brexit, that things have changed so much.
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Promises haven't been delivered. The world has changed so much.
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There would be some appetite for revisiting it. But it caused a lot of turmoil.
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And are we ready for that? Yeah.
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We're ready to open up those old wounds. And also, there was a good breadth
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of Voxbox today. Do you think that we've got a wide variety of views,
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which on a grander scale could mean that a lot of people have a diversified view on this?
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I don't know. I don't know. But, you know, I think people are starting to question
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a lot of aspects about the vote as well, you know, because we've heard claims
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that there was interference by foreign states.
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And also, you know, as I said before, the world has changed dramatically in
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10 years. I mean, we seem to be going through rates of change unlike any other time we've ever known.
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And so, yeah, I'm not really that surprised by that.
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I think the challenge, though, is, you know, if the UK decided to rerun the
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vote and their vote was to go back in, could we ever go back in in the same way?
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Will we be made to pay or or or what you know and and europe,
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europe has its challenges you know the european bloc has its challenges and
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so it's it's not an easy it's not an easy thing you know suddenly reversing
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it doesn't make it all easy and and and better.
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So it's very difficult but we'll see what the government decides so although
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it's complicated on the face of it the way that the system used to be,
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because obviously our political system and economic system has had a lot of fallout since then.
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I think we're into our seventh prime minister since then. What do you say on
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the face of it to rejoin the European common market or to be part of that club
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of countries again? On the face of it, there are some positives.
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Yes, because I think that we are still very linked with the EU anyway.
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We've not managed to divorce ourselves to separate ourselves completely in a number of levels.
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And they are our biggest, closest trading bloc.
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But it's more for me, the fact that so much else in the world has changed. Who do you trust now?
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At the moment, you can't do business with Trump's America. You really can't.
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There's no doing business with the Russians, I don't think. And our stance on
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Ukraine is quite clear that would have an impact there So I just think,
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you know, from a pure economic and trading point of view.
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We sort of stabbed ourselves a bit.
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At the same time, you know, would that mean giving up the pound?
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Would that mean adopting more European laws?
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You know, that's the hard thing.
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It's not an easy situation at all. No.
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This is a complicated topic, Roger. It's a very complicated topic.
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But interestingly, I think what you do is you say today, out of the people that,
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we talked to, and they were across the generations, I think if you were,
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you would run the vote, I think people would turn around now and say,
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it's a good chance that they wouldn't have voted up for it. Yeah.
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And on that last note, do you think that people would think,
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okay, things were fine, maybe the way they were 10, 15, 20 years ago.
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And as compared to what that is now, of course the world changes,
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but in terms of the system, it was more stable.
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At that time, it was more stable. Yeah, it was more stable, but also the vote was complicated.
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It was confused you know people were voting for lots of different reasons and
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we didn't we weren't clear on what we were voting to do,
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it was clear on what we were voting to leave but not what we were going to do
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and I you know in some ways the.
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Propaganda of the whole thing took over in a way but I I mean I'm a conspiracy
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theorist I have no doubt that some of that propaganda was fuelled by foreign
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states who would have benefited from this.
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Lies on buses from Boris, and that was just misleading people.
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People didn't have the real representation of the facts. Well,
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whoever it was from, I don't know, but there was definitely...
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Disinformation as well but you know i think we go from what 10 years on my god
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it's been a mad 10 years really hasn't it and and 10 years on at least based on what,
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the people we met today and we met them from across generations i i think if
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you were to rerun that in the next couple of years,
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it would suggest that actually we would probably look to get back in if we could ever even do that,
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wouldn't need mr burnham to go to the negotiating table but on that note rod
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thank you we will discuss later in the studio we will you are listening to the
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late late lunch show on radio alti.co.uk,
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this is radio alti and online and on the phone is james spencer from fufin street
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to wrap up today's fufin street which is a bit like in europe the final countdown james.
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Interesting topic interesting topic what's your view as somebody who's about
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20 years younger than me what was your view about it and about where we stand today I think that.
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It wasn't an issue it wasn't something that they should have made a referendum
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I think that David Cameron should never have done that like we should have just
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kept everything as it was
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maybe he should have had a referendum to have a referendum but anyway basically
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we shouldn't have done that so I think that was a massive own goal and then
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that was the end of his six year premiership And then after that,
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no one's really been prime minister for as long as he has, and we've not had any stability.
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I think we'll cover that in other B-In-The-Story episodes, whereby it's ripped
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up the political system and the economic system.
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So I think it was a really bad move, to be honest.
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Yeah, I mean, in some ways he gambled because he felt like he needed the offer
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of the country, the referendum, to try to consolidate the Conservative Party.
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And in some ways, some people think that he potentially...
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Slipped up himself if you like but but i mean,
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my take from listening to people today is that there was i mean it's not a representative
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sample we know that it's a random sample but but it did feel like um quite a few people would say,
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it should be rerun now yeah i think people didn't have the full information
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at their fingertips and they certainly have the full information now.
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In terms of the practicality of how it's planned out and i don't think people's
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lives are better off. I think people's lives are better before.
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Obviously the world moves on, things have changed,
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but maybe Britain were better off staying as they were and then rolling with
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the punches as in when they came rather than taking themselves out of the EU
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and then having to deal with the fallout of all of that and then people still
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don't know the full facts about how it's affected the country now.
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Yeah, and it has been a very disruptive 10 years geopolitically, James, doesn't it?
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Yeah, and for someone who studied history and politics It's kind of ruined what
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I learned in politics because I did politics from like up to 2014.
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So that was two years before Brexit. So everything I learned about the British
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Constitution is completely different now. Like the textbooks have changed,
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the academic materials changed.
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So it's annoying. It's kind of frustrating. And even when you go on holiday,
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it's frustrating. So I don't see many benefits to it.
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Even if there was bureaucracy at the table of Brussels, they've got to pay a
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massive divorce bill, which means no wonder everything's so high and they tax
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everything. So I don't see any benefits there.
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Yeah, well, I mean, it wouldn't be easy to go back in if that's what was decided.
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But it's interesting, we have not,
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This topic is not behind us as a country, is it? It's very much ahead of us,
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and the world has changed dramatically over the last 10 years in many ways.
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But James, we're going to have to wrap it up there today.
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Thank you. It was a really great topic. Always good to be out in the street with you.
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We met some lovely people as usual, didn't we?
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We did, Rod. And that 90-year-old lady, I think she was the best of the bunch,
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I have to say. You're listening to The Late Late Lunch Show on Radio Alty.