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From Crumbling to Calling: A Healer’s Journey with Kris Schooler · The Spiritual Shitshow Podcast

• 0:10
  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to the Spiritual Shit Show.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: I am so excited because today I get to read the intro of the first ever Spiritual Shit Show guest, my dear, dear friend Chris Cooler, and she is the co-founder of Wild Souls Yoga.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is also a soul coach, meditation coach, yoga instructor, reiki master, intuitive healer, published author, and a wellness consultant.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: Her books can be found on Amazon.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: One is called Consciously Creating, and the other one is on leadership called How to Lead a Thriving Workplace.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: I have been blessed to be on the receiving end of her healership.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: I go to her quite often for energy work, amplification, and just, can you please tap into this because this is what I'm feeling and I need to know what the heck is going on.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: She is brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_01: And this podcast came about because a friend who listens to the podcast kind of voicemail and is like, I want to hear your friends.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to hear like what you guys talk about.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: I want to hear more about what it's like.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you guys see when you're healing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what do you guys see in these sessions?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so that's what we talk about today and so much more.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, it really is all about holding space to have authentic conversations with others.
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  SPEAKER_01: And can we continue to find inspiration with one another, with one another?
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  SPEAKER_01: Have that deep conversation with the soul sister.
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  SPEAKER_01: Talk about what you're going through, how things are for you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I loved learning a lot of Chris's backstory today, which she's a friend and she was telling me things that I did not know.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: I love it, I loved it, I loved it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I also felt so much of an energetic transmission from her.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: My nervous system just settled by listening to her.
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  SPEAKER_01: I had great understanding, like a deeper understanding of the energetic body.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I won't talk anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here, and I hope you enjoy this listen and yeah.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: Love.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yay! All right, we're doing it.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: You are officially my first guest-ish.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I started the podcast um in 2018, but I never put out a single thing.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: Not not a thing.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I would have people come over, I'd go to their house and we would record, but I never put out anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, hopefully this makes the cut.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is, it's going to.
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  unknown: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Divine timing.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'll let you introduce yourself in a second.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: But really, what I wanted to do is I have a friend who listens to the podcast, and she's like, I'm just so fascinated about this work and what you do, and I want you to interview other people who do the same work as you do because I'm just so interested.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, we're gonna do it.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: So then I called.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a cool request, and I love I love that.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I just love being able to, like in the space that I'm in now, which I want to talk about later, is like the journey of awakening and becoming, and especially like dropping into your gifts and that kind of roller coaster that nobody really talks about.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then to see where I am now, kind of have done this situation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm like, I'm a baby.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I have gifts, but I don't have gifts.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm always learning.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I feel like more and more, if I'm able to gain inspiration through life or through conversations with people that are in my field and not just listening to a podcast of somebody that I probably will have to spend$500 to even listen to them talk somewhere.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I just don't think it's necessary.
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  SPEAKER_01: I feel like we are all in our gifts and we are all in our stories, and we all have this innate want and desire to support.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it's ingrained in us to help and support other people.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I love having conversations with other women, especially, and then today other healers.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the intention around this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: And question for you Do you notice that I would say it's at least 50% of my Reiki energy healing clients that are what you were talking about, like coming into alignment with their gifts and their purpose?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's really coming online.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you have that same experience?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
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  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I want to, okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: But do you want to talk to say who you are first?
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  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Chris uh Schooler, and I uh am a co-owner of Wild Souls Yoga.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we've been doing retreats for women um and events, workshops, uh, women's circles, moon circles for I think like 12 years is how long we've been doing that work.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I've been teaching yoga for for a little bit longer than that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I am also a yoga instructor, meditation instructor, and um very passionate about all things healing, wellness, alignment, soul alignment.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's um a big part of the work I do.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: I also do soul coaching.
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  SPEAKER_00: So working with people to uh find guidance from spirits for their highest alignment with their soul and their path and their journey.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and I think that's it.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: And you have two books, and I have two books.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Consciously Creating.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's a workbook on how to align with your your yeah, there it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got one on my bookshelf right here, too.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then my second book is How to Lead a Thriving Workplace.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh that comes from our wild souls yoga work with corporations and um wellness consulting with with corporations.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're a badass, really.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you have such an amazing way of holding space for people.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I feel the same about you.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're my you're my total girl crush in this in this spirit work realm.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Same, same with a fame.
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  SPEAKER_01: So how let me ask you first, uh, because I think this is something that comes up and can be scary for people who are starting.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's I feel like awakening feels like so like this, but really it's another way to kind of spin it is it's actually just coming back to your truest, most authentic, these most authentic parts of who you are, and allowing those parts of yourself to be held and grounded and integrated.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then from that comes clarity and and then like a um again this desire to share or to help or to be present for other people, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: But I think in my own experience, and I'm interested to hear what your experience was, I something needed to crumble big time in order for me to get into an alignment, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not to say that the journey up into that point, that was also part of my becoming, you know what I'm saying?
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: But in order for it all to really be like, you know, the universe shaking me, like, this is who you are, and this is what we want you to experience and do and live and remember, all of that needed to crumble.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I think sometimes we might get scared when our strength is coming on, or to lean into like, um, you know, like I've actually always like, and this is not me, but I have friends who are like, I've always kind of seen people, or you know, my grandmother was a medium or things like that.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm like, you probably have that too.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: And then you can see that fear coming in of like, oh no, no, no, I don't want that.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want that gift, I don't want that.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because when we lean into it, it feels like we're also leaning into a higher calling of ourselves and in our lives, and that can be scary because I think then we also know that shit has to, we can't carry it all with us.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: So if we're gonna say yes to a bigger yes and a and a deeper calling, we have to be willing to let things go.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the sticky part of stepping into a higher path for ourselves and our spiritual, spiritual gifts and spirituality and whatever else anybody wants to call it.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_01: But that's my story.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: Did you get into your gifts that way?
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um I got into my gifts and I would not recommend this path for anyone.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I joke that I like I am pretty hard-headed and stubborn.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that the universe had to like bring like the big guns and to wake me up.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I came into it through like I almost died.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I had a pretty crazy long road with my health and with really bad relationships and with abuse and uh a I was on 18 prescriptions, so there was you know a lot of heavy drugs that were involved, and like just it was just not a fun, it was not fun, but it was it was a crumbling for me.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I you I think you channeled this for me one time.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: You said that we all have like this, like we can make whatever choice we want, right?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: We have free will, we can make whatever choice we want, but we have a golden path.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: And that the more that we are in alignment with that path, the more like we could feel that that resonance about like, oh, this is it, like this is what feels right for me.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: The more we veer from that path, the more it's like, oh, I don't, this doesn't feel quite right.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: The more I move towards that path, like it starts to feel better.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I don't know, like I because I I have thought about like, did I have gifts when I was younger?
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um probably, but I don't like I was not, I was so disconnected, I was so in my ego.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was such a person who was like, I was so asleep, so very asleep.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think that I needed like a drastic series of events to like bring me back to my golden path and my alignment, honestly.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I think it's like if you have the choice to kind of trust and know that you're being guided in a higher way, that feels way easier than the gripping of it.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: As I was gripping, I would have just, it's fine, it's fine.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: My life's not that bad.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'll make it work.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: I would just kind of like build around the chaos to make it work instead of just removing the chaos altogether and not having it kind of be a part of my um kind of picturing it like in a neighborhood where that one person doesn't want to sell their house and so everything just builds around it, and then that looks really out of place.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: That poor person who I would have done that.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: I would have just kept the house right there because I didn't want to demolish it and I didn't know what that looked like.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: And so I would have just in my life just continued to build around it as best as I could, but I wouldn't have been, I would have still been cheating myself from happiness or truth and freedom.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: So literally the day that my life switched, I was at my business and I heard I literally heard enough.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was at the back and I was playing music and I just heard enough.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then it was like something took over my body and it was just like wow, that was the end.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then I had to start what I've titled my spiritual shit show, which has now lasted, you know, nine years of this really hard uh because and this is why I like to have conversations because when you're being stripped of everything, you're being stripped of your story, you're being stripped of your identity, of the this title that you've had.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I was once misses, you know, married, or I was once whatever it is, you get stripped of it, and then it's like you're left in the world naked and really confused and really hard.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: But I it needed to happen that way, or I would have never chose it for myself.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I I've completely understand that experience.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like I if I actually going back, so I said I didn't know if I had if I was connected to my gifts.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: I actually was because I as you were talking, I remembered that I used to have like I used to hear things all the time, I used to see things all the time before I really stepped into my gifts when I was married, and I used to think I was literally crazy.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like I thought something was wrong with me.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: So that is that's that.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I was I okay, so I used to, this is this is a an embarrassing story, but I used to go in my closet and pray.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um I I was I was in a lot of pain, a lot of physical pain at the time.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I I mentioned my 18 prescriptions and I had a bottle of Soma, which are uh narcotic muscle relaxers, that was a giant bottle, and it was I hid it in my closet because I hated taking, I hated taking prescriptions.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: I hated the like the way that I was.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Since I was a kid, like and I never grew up in the church, but Jesus has appeared to me.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't even I've lost count because it's so frequent.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: But as a kid, um, a teenager, and then during this really hard phase of my life, and in my closet, like Jesus appeared to me.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I, my daughter was in elementary school at the time, and I she's in college now, so that was a while ago.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I saw in my like this was like I think one of my first visions, if you will.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I saw if I didn't change something, I was not gonna see her graduate high school, I would not be alive.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that was like, I mean, it was like do or die for me, literally.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so then what was the what was your big transition?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're like how of how you were to where you are now, how did you get there and what did that look like?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was actually yoga.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yoga was like the gateway drug to spirituality for me.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I so I before this horrible thing with my health that lasted for years and all of the chronic pain, and so I wasn't myself, like I just felt like a shell of myself in every way possible.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I before that, I was a runner, I was a cheerleader, I uh was a basketball player, like I was very athletic.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then like when after school, like after I graduated high school, like I still like I worked out all the time.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: I loved to run on the treadmill at lunch, on my lunch break.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just loved to be active.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I did, I did like a hip hop dance class back then.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I got to the point like I couldn't move, like I couldn't, like anything I did physically, like I would be in bed for three days.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: I had to quit my job.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: I went on short-term disability, and then I just quit.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I would get like these horrible migraines and blackout.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I wrecked my car like twice driving down I-25, which is just horrible.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I would go to the doctor and like sit and cry.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't, I can't even go to the gym.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: I can't even go to a Zumba class.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I can't, I can't do anything.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: And my doctor was like, why don't you try yoga?
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I went and I hated it.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: I hated how slow it was.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: I hate, I think I hated the way it made me like slow down and have like silence with myself.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'd never experienced that before.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I went I went to a couple classes because it was the only thing I could do that didn't hurt.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I like it, I wasn't just broken for days after class.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember the studio is not around anymore, but there was a studio in the town that I lived, and it was like in a strip ball.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: And one day after class, I walked out from class and it was kind of cloudy.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was f early fall, and I looked up at the sky and I was like, something is different.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I felt like for the first time in my entire life, I felt like my mind was clear.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that was like such an odd feeling to me.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just kept going.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think I went for like, I don't know, two or three weeks.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, if I don't, if I don't just uh become obsessed with this, I'm it's probably not gonna have the same impact.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I signed up for a six-month intensive yoga teacher training, like like a couple weeks in, like to my first three-week yoga classes.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it just took me down this path of um because yoga is about yoga means to yoke, to unite, to connect with our soul.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it means.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yes, there's a physical component to it, and yes, we have like exercise classes called yoga, but yoga as a practice is really like there's all this wisdom and knowledge and guidance to how we connect deeper within who we are at a soul level.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: And that was just life-changing for me.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I've just I've been studying it ever since, like hardcore, all in, anything I anything and everything I can learn about yoga.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I have.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: I feel that as you're talking, I feel like my whole nervous system just settled down.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I it saved, like I know, I know that it saved my life.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I have so on my birthday every year, I do something.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I go see some sort of healer or do some like shaman, like I go see someone that I've never seen before is like a per a birthday present to myself.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: And two years in a row, I went to two different people, they didn't know each other, they didn't know me, and they both told me you were not supposed to survive.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: I was not supposed to be here.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I know I know that yoga saved my life, it just did.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, wow.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for sharing that.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for the space to share that.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're friends, and I'm now I'm learning so much about you.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: So where are so okay?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you started yoga, and then how did you begin to slowly integrate off of your pills?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I did like this.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't recommend this, but this is what I did is I'm gonna be like, I have it, I still take them all.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I wrote everything out and I did research on what they were or how they impacted the body from a physiological level.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I like I had like three categories of like, okay, these pills I can just stop cold turkey, these I can probably wean myself off of in a short period of time, and these I need to wean myself off of in like a six-month period.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I that's what I did.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I started seeing a lot of holistic, um, various practitioners, and I to this day like have a very large network of holistic practitioners that I use.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I rarely go to the doctor, the conventional doctor.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Talk to me about because I'm so interested, because I think sometimes when we're doing like when we're having our own personal aha, like when you said I left the yoga studio and I just like something was different and I felt it.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: Talk me, talk to me a little bit about that because I feel like we do that, but then at the same time, it's like, does anybody else feel like this ever?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Is this me?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: Am I crazy?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like then the mind starts to kick in and want to organize it.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: So from that moment when you were like, whoa, I really am feeling a shift and something's different.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what trans, what was that kind of transition then from that moment on?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh did it deepen?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Did you it did?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so uh in yoga, uh there is a and I think it's more than just yoga.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's a lot of eastern traditions that that use this system, but it's called the koshas, and the kosha means sheath in Sanskrit.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And there are five different layers of our being.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: So think of like Russian nesting dolls, like we have layers, and so the most dense aspect of our being is our physical body, and then the second layer is our breath body, so the breath is separate from the density of the bones and muscles, and then the third layer is the ego mind.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: So, like I think of it like sitting right here, the ego mind that likes to narrate every experience we have and constantly chattering and whatever.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then the fourth layer is like it's like I see it as like here, it's the higher mind.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then the the fifth layer is the bliss body.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I think of that as that's when we are no longer connected to like our personality, our bodies, our stories, we're just connected to everything that is.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think for me, I yoga and that like experience for me was like a lifting of a lifting me up out of the ego so I could see it for what it was.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't ego is not a bad thing, and that the voice of the ego is not a bad thing, but when we can start to see the different layers and the space between the layers, um, then we can recognize all of it for what it is.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it just there's some spaciousness there that it and I think that is what made me able to be be able to connect to spirit the way I do today in the work that I do today is if I when I was so connected to the ego, uh, and like thinking that's who I was, I there was no way I could have ever gotten there.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Does that make sense?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that word spaciousness, like just listening to me talk, my literally my body's feeling like butter.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hearing like these key points of the, you know, like of the space, you know, that's kind of needed.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and the stillness to remember who you are and what you're doing, and to see it from like you said, like a higher perspective, a higher version of yourself.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I also loved hearing, you know, the the five different layers that we have and where they're at, because I think hearing that also reminds me that we can get hooked into an aspect of self, and we're trying to find our wholeness, but we're trying to find our wholeness just from one layer.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: And when we can begin to see these other layers and these components that make us who we are, then it's easier to drop into an awareness of that we are already whole.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I would think of the the Dave Matthews song, The Space Between.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's where the like I don't know how to explain it, but that's where the magic is.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: The second that I can like find the space between the layers and the space between the thoughts, and the space between like I it's just like that's where I just feel so connected.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel that right now.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: I need to be reminded of it.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: I also love um that at a young age, you know, I love that at first you're like, I don't think I had gifts, and then you're like, but actually when I was like, I've always seen Jesus.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like so this realization too of when we shut down or I don't know, it's kind of like our our own best kept secret, maybe sometimes is how we like to hold it actually.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think when we do have those types of situations, I'm wondering, and this is now I'm just babbling.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm wondering if it's not because we're afraid of it, but because there's a deeper part of us that's that knows how truthful and sacred it is, that we actually go and we protect it.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: So it's not seen because we're actually in protecting of that.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: And now, and now part of this awakening process is allowing that to be at the center of who we are so it can it it that the truth of it all can be seen instead of us needing to protect it from the world or protect it from other people's thoughts or protect it from our own ego or any of that.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just yeah, and I grew up, I grew up in a household where I I was not supported in most ways.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I think like I had a um a 15-year-old client on my table two days ago, and her mother and her grandmother were in the room, and like they they work with me too, and like to see because she's very gifted, she's very sensitive spiritually, she's she sees things, she hears things, and it's it was so uh like heart opening for me to see her because the grandmother looked like this trailblazer, like I saw like this wall behind her of like what it looked like was okay, so the light, like her path and everything that was before her from an ancestral lineage, lineage perspective was like kind of ick.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then grandmother was born, and like she had this energy of like I'm not allowing that anymore.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: And there was like this wall behind her of like I'm gonna protect everything for all the generations moving forward so that they can step into their gifts.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's what it felt like to me.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't have that, and so I also think uh that when we don't have someone to help us foster our gifts, then it really gets shut down because the world around, like, you know, you go to school and that's not acceptable.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: And like the world at large, it's not really in my childhood, it wasn't acceptable to like see things and hear things and all of you know.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that being being lucky enough, but I also I also know it's a part of my path.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like everything that was a part of my path, every part of it was was intentional and that's okay.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: It was beautiful and was perfect for me.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm now I'm rambling.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I get it.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm following.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm following, and that's the whole point of this, is just having a lot of I just I'm hearing so much and uh also receiving like your wisdom.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of it is really integrating, integrating for me right now, and kind of it feels like other channels are opening.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and what I want to ask now is you know, the how do you feel about supporting other people on their path and taking ownership of it?
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because I've I I have a very sweet friend, and I was her dance teacher, and so she knew me as just Miss Julie forever, and then uh she's the one who took me to teach in Beijing with her for the first time, and then she's old enough now, so now we've um now we're friends.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: So we've been friends longer than I was ever her teacher.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: But I think because of her first imprint of me, I am still, you know, teacher and I'm still dancing and stuff.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: And she was going through a hard time and I said, Do you want me?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can help and do my thing.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: And they're really into the energetics.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: They teach cranial work, they teach energy work, they teach polarity therapy.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: So she's this is her world.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: And um, she was like, I'll take anything, I'll take anything.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I remember the first time having to show up for somebody in my gifts, and how it's easier for me to do it for a stranger because I don't know, but to have to do it with somebody who I'm close with and I love and adore, and also put myself out there in that way, I was really nervous and scared about it.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, I just have to do it.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I did it, and then she called me.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: I just did a voice memo and like light language was coming in, and I was singing and like visions, and like I just had to allow myself to just be in that space.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then I when I pressed in, I was like, oh God, like what is she gonna think of me?
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: And what is she gonna think about all of this?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like I'm coming out to her, is like, this is what I actually really kind of do.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then she called back and she was like, that what she was like, I felt my whole body changing, like listening to you sing, and like it just felt like and I just started crying, but it she was like, I it I don't have any words except for thank you.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then now, as you know, we're still in each other's lives, she'll call and she'll be like, I don't know how you got how you tapped into all of this wisdom by yourself.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like you didn't have mentors.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I'm tagging because you said I didn't have a support system.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I didn't have mentors, I didn't have a teacher, I wasn't raised in this, but I kind of feel like just life itself and the hardships of life is kind of what began to like unroot the this, these truths and stuff.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um but do you think what are your thoughts around that when people are stepping into their gifts and how to hold an acceptance of maybe a painful past or painful situations?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: And on the other side of that is also so much divine support that is helping to awaken you into your gifts.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: And when you awaken into those gifts, you might experience a moment where you're like, people are going to think I am crazy and I have lost my mind.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: And you still just have to keep.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Stepping into it and trusting it.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, so yes, to answer, okay, let me start with I you have been so pivotal for me and uh and really uh owning my gifts.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I so I just thank you for that.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I to answer your question, I literally live to help people step into their gifts.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like it is the one thing that I feel on a very regular basis, and I think I have felt this my entire life, but didn't know what it meant.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: I feel this urgency at a soul level of like, it is time to wake up.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: It is time to step into your light.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: It is time to be who you came here to be.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel that like personally, and when I work with people, I not for every single client, but the ones that are like that know, like, because when I see when I work with clients, there's usually somebody who comes to me because they just want some light energy work, and then there's people that come to me because they're like, I know there's more, but I don't know what that means.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I know I have gifts, but I don't know what that means.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so those people, like, there's always a sense of urgency from spirit of like now, like I've I've heard it in sessions before from spirit, like now is the time.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like now is a time, like, and it's like I see like a snap, like now is the time step into your gifts.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if that answers your question, but like I like it is of I think it's a huge part of my purpose is to because I've always been able to, even before I did this work, I always, and it got me in trouble because I always saw people for their highest self instead of who they were as a human.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that got me in a lot of bad relationships.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I, you know, I like I would be so confused because I'm like, but that's not they would show up as their human in lower vibrational states, and I'd be like, but that's not who you are.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was very confusing for me because I didn't know what that meant, but now I do that like yeah, yes.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: The integration of acceptance of what is.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um but how is that for you too when you're when you're guiding people into their into their gifts?
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: What is what are you seeing when you're helping people to awaken?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, not that there's like a list of steps, but um like I know for myself when I first was awakening to it all and practicing one thing I had to move through was that fear of one, what my family's gonna think of me and my close friends.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: And two, this like, am I crazy?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, am I really seeing these things?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: Are angels really coming to visit me?
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like nobody can know this.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're gonna think I'm just wild and out there, and I don't want to be wild and out there, I just want to be me.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to move through that.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then as more and more gifts started to come on, then I felt like this need that any information that I would get, I would have to tell them, you know, like and how silly, like I know this is gonna sound weird, but your dog just talked to me and your dog wants his bed, you know, like and it was all truthful because they'd be like, Yeah, I just got rid of the dog bed today, and you knew that.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you know, like how did you know that?
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, literally, your dog just told me he wants his bed back and he just showed me, you know, like that kind of stuff sounds weird and wild, and it's weird to go up to somebody and be like, your dog just told me that, or your dog is saying that they're unhappy.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's kind of stuff when you start happy, you're like, what is happening?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: But then I felt like I needed to tell everybody.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so this prop this process also of is the more um this sense just comes online, because I think we all have it, we all are in our own unique gifts and leaning into it and deepening into it, it just takes practice and it takes support and it takes actually normalizing it in these conversations too.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um but then I am am learning because I feel like I'm still not always good at it.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um I began to realize how much of the gift was also began to be cleverly manipulated by the ego of like, look, I have healing powers.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: Look, I can tell you, look, I can da da da da da.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want me to help you?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like I began to do that.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: And now it's more of a softening of I don't, that's not my responsibility all the time.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: And when people come to me, then I can open.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: But I've also learned how to turn that switch off.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: But I see it as I am also helping other people into their gifts, that there's that small space when you're kind of navigating into this new form that you're gonna, you don't know what to do with it.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it is such a service to other people, but you have to be aware of this other part that's gonna want to be like, Look, I can heal you, look, I can tell you, look, I can look, your dog's talking to me.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Look, oh, I can see your aura.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: I can see, you know, like you just want to start doing all of those things.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually it kind of integrates down into how into a grounded wisdom of service for other people.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, did you do that ever?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: I did.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it actually started in yoga with me.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because yoga is an energetic healing practice.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so I went through that stage of like I learned only to because yoga can be triggering like the things because when I when I teach a yoga class, I am pretty much channeling what comes through.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm channeling like I just I don't know how to explain it, but when I teach a class, like I'm just like open and like things come through and I say them, and um, and it's a powerful way for me to teach, but I always I'm always like, However, this lands for people is none of my business.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: And but it like I didn't know that I was doing that.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: I uh a shaman told me that.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: I went to a shaman who didn't know that I taught yoga, and then she was like, Do you teach yoga?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yes.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Oh, you have these like energy tentacles that come out and you can read people's energies, but you don't know you're doing it, but you're teaching to the energy you're feeling.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: And like, of course, I was like, Oh, that's cool.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, you get like this the big head about it, but like over time, I just learned like say what me say what I what I am channeling, what's supposed to be said, because I'm only I only asked to receive things that I'm supposed to say, and then I have to let it lie.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I have also learned to only work with people who want to work with me.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't ever force it, like I don't I don't go up to people in the sh like because I, you know, I try to turn it off when I'm not working, working, but I get insights and visions and messages, and unless someone asks me to do it for them, I'm not, I just don't do it anymore.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: And what do you do with it?
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because I have some friends too who have a lot of stuff and they're in, they're in like I see things or I'm hearing things all the time.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: How do you kind of move it so it's not becoming overwhelming?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: So you can still be human.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I worked with you.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Why why I did Reiki training with you is because I didn't know, I felt so overwhelmed all the time with energy, with hearing things, seeing things.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: Going out in public became overwhelming.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: I going to a concert was not an option, airports were too much.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I had no intention of actually ever doing any sort of energy healing work um when I came to see you for training.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to learn how to turn it down and off.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know specifically what we did together, but it gave me working with you gave me more control over um over all of it.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like I so now like I I tend to use like a radio dial.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: So if I'm feeling a lot of energy coming in that I'm I'm not, I don't want, I just like imagine turning it down.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I just feel way more in control.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think I love that the dial down.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I also love uh eventually I got to just turn it on like on like a light switch, like on off.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because there for a while I couldn't have a conversation with somebody without it, just felt like and like all this information's coming in, and then I'm not listening to them anymore.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I'm like, whoa, like I'm actually hearing, I'm like all the things.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: So now I've learned how to, and I think I'm still practicing of turning it off and just learning how to just be actually with that person without all these other psychic things happening and and also opening up the gap a little bit so I can still speak from more of a channeled truth, but it's not like the whole shebang of like, let's do a full channeled session for you right here at the coffee shop, because that'd be inappropriate, but we're also talking, and so I want my words to be meaningful.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: So in conversations, I've learned how to kind of turn it down or off, but also kind of open the channel a little, like just a little, so that way I whatever I'm saying or sharing that can still be in the realm of like a channeled supportive energy.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then I guess I want to ask you too can you feel the difference?
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because I can feel the difference in yeah in my body.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: Feel it as true.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I just think it's a difference between our human that comes with our personality, our stories, our past, our baggage, all of that.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and there's so there's a a bias there just naturally, right?
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so there's that version of me, and then there's the very like connected version of me.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I like the connected version better, to be honest with you.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so but of course, there are lots of moments in my life where I'm going to be just the very human version of myself.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: But yes, I could definitely feel the difference.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: I feel that because I feel like a lot of us need to hear exactly what you said that there's this connected version of myself, and then there's this human version of myself.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: And they both show up.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: And how can I be more of that connected version of myself a little bit more?
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: And know that there's this other version of myself that also does exist.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like just talking to you two, um, which again we're talking about, you know, energy and psychic stuff and seeing Jesus and things.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to say it sounds weird to say this, but I am feeling just the power of like the energetic transmission just from listening to you talk.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so I hope that anybody who listens to this is also feeling that shift as well.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the first time that I went to Beijing, I think it was in 2016, and we went to the temple.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I've never SLI, I've been to a temple before.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but this is my first time at this temple, and for whatever, and it was by myself.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think the other temples I went to was with my family and stuff.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so this is the first time, a solo trip overseas by myself by myself, and then going to the temple by myself.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: And let me say by myself one more time, by myself.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_01: And anyway, I walked in by myself and I felt like my whole body like shifting.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could not, I didn't know what was happening.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm sure I wasn't moving, I'm sure I was just standing there.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I felt like every cell in my being was just like reorganizing itself.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I think we have many of those times in our lives too, when we just have like when you walked out at the studio, the yoga studio, it was like something's different, something has changed.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so I just want to be able to say that and name that because I think a lot of us do have these experiences, but again, we don't know if we can talk about it or if we can trust it or believe it.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's a question of like, what is happening?
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I think in those moments of what is happening, I think we are we are literally our entire body is leveling up into higher truths and clarity, and then also at the same time deepening into this or aligned version of ourselves.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the goal is to trust it because I think that we can we can feel it and then disregard it and then just go back to what was or the way we were showing up, or the old the old programming or whatever, instead of allowing the new to come through.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: The trust part is what has taken a lot of time for me.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I so I didn't grow up con I didn't I have not felt really connected to a family of origin.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I think for me that was a gift.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't it was hard.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna diminish that at all, but it was a gift in that I never felt because I know a lot of people that I work with feel this pressure of well, how do I step forward into this when I have my family pulling me into this?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: And how do I navigate that?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: And so I I don't know because I've never like it's was super easy for me to always just step forward, step forward, trust the whatever's shifting.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: I I I have been able to do that.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think in my marriage, I was married for 13 years.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_00: That was tough.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember having conversations.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: I had a a crystal dealer that I would have coffee with when I would go buy my crystals.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I remember talking to her like early on in my yoga journey, because I did feel like the yoga yoga, I will say this do not ever take a yoga teacher training unless you were ready for your life to completely change.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: That is the crumbling.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: And and in my teacher journey, I remember having coffee with this crystal dealer at Starbucks, and I I told her, I was like, I just I feel like if I keep going down this path, I'm going to end up divorced.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And this was early on.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like this was probably year four or five of my marriage.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: And she said this to me.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_00: She said, Here's what happened.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: So as you do your work, you're gonna start to vibrate a little bit higher.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you guys are in a resonance, he will come up with you.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: It might not be the same level, but he'll come up with you.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: If he chooses not to, it's gonna kind of start doing this, but you have to honor your path.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's what she told me.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I will never forget that as long as I live.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that was such a gift of a message of like we have to, we don't have to, that's the wrong word, but we the the fun is when we follow it.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun, it's scary, it's fun.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun too.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: I do too.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm like, let's go, where are we going?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_01: Chris, honestly, though, I wish I would have had the whatever conversation we're having now.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: I wish I would have been able to hear, like my, you know, 36-year-old self would have been able to hear this because, and I think this is why I'm so passionate about talking now, because it's really what I needed, because I felt so alone in the in that journey.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I had to navigate it really by myself.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: And if somebody were like, it's this is gonna be fun.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, who you're gonna be in 10 years?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's gonna be fucking amazing.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't have chosen this.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: We chose it for you because it's this is what you want, though.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like you want freedom and you want to like expand and you want to travel and you want all of this.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: If you just keep keep doing this, you're gonna you're gonna wake up and be like, what happened to my life?
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: This is not at all what I wanted.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm super grateful for you sharing your stories because I feel like uh I needed to hear it, you know, like and my you know, 36-year-old self needed to hear it because it is, it's a crumbling, but it is fun.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it doesn't feel fun when you're in it though.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: But if you have more and more women who are like, oh yeah, I've got a divorce, or oh yeah, I quit my business, or oh yeah, like the loss of you losing these things.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I have a really sweet friend, and I was he shared, I share with him, but then he's so powerful.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: He offered me an offering back, and he was talking about that he is processing what this feels like to go through micro deaths every day.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, whoa, and that's what it is, and I think allowing these parts, and it's just like a flower, like parts of the flower die, and you trim it off, and you know that if you trim it, more life is coming.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: But it's really hard to see that for ourselves because we want me, we not we, me.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have such a fear that I want to grip and hold it all.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I think a part of my process is allowing, still allowing more of whatever's coming to come.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then when it's bloomed, then it's the bloom is to be released, and it does that.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm in this practice of of allowing life to be like this and to release the grip of it all.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well and death is our greatest fear, death is our greatest fear of as as a human.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: And death, the fear of death lives in the ego.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: And the micro deaths are actually ego deaths.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so the more that we can really just I one of my favorite quotes is the only way out is through.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so whenever I feel fearful, I remind myself of like you just have to do it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to go through, you just have to keep going.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that has served me very well.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_01: When you're going through the through parts, though, are there things that you definitely need?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yes.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Practices, our practices are rituals.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: We have to have those.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, what are your go-to rituals?
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I need alone time.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's huge for me.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then alone time can be like um time to create, time to meditate, time to like lay on the floor and do some yoga stretches.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just need like time outside of like the scheduled to-do lists and meetings and work and all the things that we do in life.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um energetic practices.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I do a lot of in the morning, like setting the intention of how I want my energy to feel today and doing the connection practices of connecting up and opening myself up.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, I do a lot of clearing and cleansing practices.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: I've actually been doing uh the last, like lately, I've been doing a lot of like body cleansing energetically of like the organs and the the torso and like the um the uterus and the ovaries, like just imagining like light is like washing through my body before I go to sleep.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's huge.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_00: I think the way that we take care of our minds, bodies, and spirits is a ritual.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_00: So what we're eating, what we're drinking or not drinking, who we're spending our time with, how we're spending our time in general, what we're consuming from a media perspective, like are we watching the news and are we doom scrolling social media, or are we reading like good stuff and journaling?
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I think all of that is just really foundational for me.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: Do you notice like when I travel, especially if I'm traveling and teaching, my practices, I like there, I have to.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm always like, damn, Julie, why don't you do this every day?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh like approach every day.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: But like if I'm traveling and teaching, like it is, I wake up, I work out, I meditate, I set my intentions for the day.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: I make sure that I carve enough time in between my teaching, you know, my teaching break to go meditate and refresh and grab like I am on it, on it.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: And when I do that, my days are so much easier.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: They're smoother, they feel heightened, it feels more creative.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I don't do it as like diligently when I'm just living in my day-to-day life.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: I have my practices, but I don't do it like so diligently as I do when I am teaching abruptly.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm jealous because I I'm opposite.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: I I I find it worse when I travel.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna mute myself.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's because when I am teaching, I know that I have I have to, like I'm it's a requirement.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: I have to show up in love, I have to show up in light, I have to show up well, and I cannot afford to get sick because if I'm traveling overseas, you know what I'm saying?
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: I just can't afford any of that.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I really ramp up my practices.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: But because I'm ramping up, I'm also like so much better.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like I feel so like, why don't I do this every day?
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: And honestly, I know that I rely on my clients' sessions because that is, I have to sit down and I have to ground and I have to connect with spirit.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: But I know we're running out of time, but I want to know like, what was the evolution of your gifts though?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely been an evolution.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm definitely an evolution.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the more like and and the easiest, simplest way to say this, the more that I trust and let go of fear, the more that they open.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: And the more that I use them, the more that they open.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: And the more that I just own my gifts, the more that they open.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: So the I think my previous, you know, previous versions of myself, I was, you know, I was scared of, you know, who would think what about me and well, I'm crazy, or and the more that I was just like, I don't care what anyone thinks, I am here to I'm here to do this work.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I have like the time is now.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: And the more that I just really work through the fear of it, and I trust, I think for me, I trust this like and it's trust is not even the right word.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_00: The spirit realm to me is more real than this bookshelf behind me.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's more tangible and real.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so the more time that I spend in that connection and collaboration with spirit, the less I'm really affected by the the matrix that we live in, is what I would say.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just I'm getting older, so I just I don't think I give a F anymore.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: The brilliance of our age, I'm leaning.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I have another question too.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um I just forgot it.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about stepping into our power.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm thinking of my friend.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, I want to hear other people talk.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what do you see?
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is a question from her.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you are in your session, like what is your process?
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: What do you see?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: What comes through for you?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of stuff.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I love that question.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, for me, it depends on the client.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know two sessions are the same for for me.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I start with I think my hands, I don't know if this makes sense at all to you, but I think my hands are like they read energy.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_00: And like when I put my hands in someone's energy field before I even touch their bodies, I'm already getting like a blueprint of their energy.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm getting a blueprint for the session and where the session is going to go.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: So sometimes the session is very much um a release of trauma, physical, mental, emotional in the body.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's purely that.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes the sessions are um geared more towards stepping into authenticity and gifts and like guidance in that way, but like moving energy in the body to support that.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um sometimes sessions are I had this, and okay, to explain what I'm seeing.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm seeing like I I close my eyes when I work a lot, and I can also see when I open my eyes, but I see like almost like a movie playing, and I can see scenarios and cities and people and guides, and I mean anything and everything that you can think of.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: I can see sometimes I actually hear words.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, so that's interesting because like one time I heard um a French, I don't know French, and a French word came and I was like, what?
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: What is that?
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I had to go look it up.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: So that's always interesting when like things come in that I've no idea.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm like, what?
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I oh, I feel things in my body too.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I am always guided by my own body, which is interesting.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: Of like, okay, my left hip is talking, so I need to go to their left hip.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: That kind of thing.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I had do you want me to tell you about the weirdest session I've ever had that was like just like so educational for and I I actually think of um every session I do, I'm opening up to spirit and I'm like, guide me in whatever healing this person on my table needs.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it is like an education for me every single time.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like I learned so much, I see so much that I didn't know.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then after I get to go meditate on it and get to ask questions to my guides, but what was that about?
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I had this um gentleman client, he's a he's a client of mine.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: The first session he ever had with me, I and this session was so powerful for me.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think that I ruminated on it for two weeks after, like every waking moment.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, what was that?
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I saw that the world we live in is not what it seems.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: That there are two, there's a battle going on of light and dark on a very high and deep level that it's it has to do with our planet, it's off planet as well.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's there's so many players involved.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_00: And this gentleman, I remember seeing that he was like astral traveling in his sleep, and then he was always tired because he wasn't sleeping.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: And when he was astral traveling, he was like off fighting these like really crazy battles for the good of humanity.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I like it was mind-blowing, mind-blowing, mind blowing.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember like he wanted like, and I told him everything I was seeing, and he was like, Yeah, like I he was like he felt seen.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: He felt seen.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I he wanted me to talk to his wife, which I did, and it changed their marriage because he wasn't sleeping at night.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't understand, like, he would say things all the time, like from this place of like intuition, but she thought he was full of shit.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so he he wasn't, he was like really connected in his own way, but not in like the way the work that you and I do.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like he's doing his own different kind of spiritual work and bringing light to the to the planet right now and in a healing way.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: And she every time I see her is so thankful to me because of how it shifted their dynamic and how she could understand him better.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, it just it just every session with every single person is so unique and different in what I see.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: And what about the different types of gifts that you see in different people?
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have somebody who is, you know, fighting battles in the astral world, on these fleets, and then other gifts could be as simple as the big the big ones I'm seeing are people just especially right now with the division on the planet, and the like the in it I see it as very intentionally created division.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: There are people right now who are just being asked to stay in their light and to not be pulled and to not be um distorted, like not have their their energy distorted.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_00: So to just stay in like it looks like a lighthouse almost, like their body is a lighthouse, and just to stay in that frequency is is healing to people around them.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a big one that I see.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've seen people who are supposed to be working with their like gifts in herbalism.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: So like the and I categorically, I see usually people who are more like earth-based healers, people who are more um kind of like this man who was like kind of more.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and in that session, I heard the term shadow worker, which I never heard that before, never ever.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I did some research on that.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: So a shadow worker is someone who is a light worker, but they work in the shadows.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: So there's people who are like more human earth-based, some people who are more like working in the shadows, and some people are working really in the astral realms.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think that that comes through a lot, those different categories.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um and people doing healing, a big one I see is people doing healing within their own families.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's a lot, uh in my work, I'm seeing a lot of families like not doing well, a lot of that and cutting ties big time, and because of the the the calculated division that's being manufactured.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I have nothing to say to that except for I'm integrating all of that.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: I love you know that people are doing the earthly healing or the astral healing or the family healing, that there's all these little columns that people are in.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and to be able to utilize whatever is coming in for you, that whatever you're being drawn to.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do that.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do that.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I love any sessions too because um I love receiving your work because it's very similar to me.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: And so we had a session a couple weeks ago and I got down.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, is this what it feels like?
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_01: Is this what I'm like, oh my God, this is great.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it just feels so amplifying and truthful.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh so when I'm also doing the work, I love being able to shine a light on again, just what I said, like whatever your unique gifts are, it's that.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: And keep doing that because again, the ego is gonna want to come in and be like, oh, and I also like you you can learn how to be in your lane almost.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not I it's not my job to do to work in the shadows and the light and the earth and the whatever.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: And this is why also community in healership communities is so important because it's I always see like care bears, and everybody had their own little uh emblem that shines out.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like we we need everybody who's doing whatever work they're doing and how they're doing it to come together and yeah, shine our hearts out, but it is not a requirement to know and to do all of it.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_01: So know what your gift is or gifts and just continue to harness that and trust it, trust it.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because, like what I'm saying for you now, you are an incredible healer.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I am also feeling like this really incredible energetic transmission, and you're we're just talking, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times, too, if there's somebody out there who's like, I don't have any gifts or I want gifts, but I'm not, I don't, you do, and it could just be your incredible, you know, ability to be a loving mother or how you listen.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like our gifts aren't always these psychic energetic gifts, but yet they are.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I I told everyone, every single person on my table they have a gift, every single one.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's um it's it's so simple, but I get that it's also not like it's it's just on the other side of uh of going through what I've gone through to get to the place where I can just sit in my gifts unapologetically.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: I I get the uh the apprehension, the fear, the resistance.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_00: I get all of that, but it is just as simple as okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna accept this, I'm gonna be in this, I'm gonna, I'm I'm here for it.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's just that simple.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I love how earlier you said, and it's fun.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun because I learn, I feel like I learn something every single day about energy healing, the universe, why we're here, souls, humans, earth, all like I just learn, like I just, it's so the more I'm open to it, the more I receive, is really what I would say.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: Same.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that every like if I just get a random person who I've not met before, but they've heard of me and they want to come, I I'm not like, ooh, I go, there is something I am working on, and this person is is going to be the vessel from which I need to hear whatever it is that I like it's a dual situation that I am able to facilitate, you know, messages and and do energy work for you.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_01: And also the the information that's coming in for you is also coming in for me, and it blows my mind because the more I do it, I'm like, I don't know anything.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: I do not know anything and I am okay with that, but I am really excited about sitting down and channeling this information that I have no idea.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot even pretend that I am a master of any of it because every time I have a session with somebody, uh it's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, look at it this way, or look at it this way, or look at it this way, or look at it this way, or this is what's happened.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, and it's so I love it too because like today I had a session with somebody and I can see in my channeled sessions, I get I'm always like asking at the same time.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so for this person, they were saying she's a portal.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like how she holds space is different than how her partner holds space, uh, because they do retreats together.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so she holds space like this, and so that's why she can feel a lot of the energies where her partner just is like this, you know, like and if she she can feel it, she's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: Not now, yeah, yeah, yeah, not now.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_01: But her partner is like this, and so they were reminding this particular person that they're really a portal for the energy for any like shadowy energy to to transmute.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so she can see it and she feels it, but then it it's it has to be seen and witnessed, and then it transmutes.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: So she's really just a spaceholder and a portal, but her energy is soft yet it's powerful.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_01: She doesn't need to speak too much, but she's but her energy is like holding the space.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then the visual that they had was you know, sitting in stillness more, like meditating in stillness, not guided meditations, not music, no, not nothing, stillness, and then feeling this channel, and then from the shoulders, it went out.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, and they were cueing it, and I'm and I wanted to be like in the heart, and they're like, not the heart, girl, get out the way.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're not going to the heart.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're telling you it's this way.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: So then later I'm asking, like, how come this part wasn't included in this energy like container?
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_01: They were saying, visualize yourself as a container.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: And they were saying, Well, because this and this gets to rest, that if she just sets the container this way and she sits in stillness and she allows the energy to be that way, then really the energy is going to do what it does.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: She's not, she's not micromanaging, she's not doing, she's not thinking.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: She just gets to actually be in the center of the container and the energy gets to be in its wisdom.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think a lot, and now I'm babbling, but also the calling of the surrender aspect to whatever it is, to gifts, to life, to astral, to earth, to whatever.
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_01: And knowing, like if we can allow ourselves to integrate fully, which I think is what the work is, into the energy and always be a student and an admirer of the energy, whether it's shadow or light or joy or pain or whatever it is, but to allow it to be witnessed, then it I think also that is where the fun is because when you're remembering that you're a part of it all.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's cool stuff.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: So cool.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: And any of that makes sense.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: All of it made sense.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and uh to your point about like what you are seeing, but you're like, well, what about the heart and the head and all, you know, like I because I work with chakras a lot too, energy centers of the body in my work.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we learn in yoga training there, there's like a this chakra is this color, this chakra is this color, this is and they're they're in a linear order, and like I've seen like that on this person the heart chakra is not green or whatever.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: Mine aren't either, mine are flipped, yeah.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: And so like it's just I I'm always like, I'm so in my human, I am probably not as open, but in my work channeling and like with spirit, I'm like I'm an open, like I'm open, tell me everything.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here, I'm here to learn.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas like in my human, I'm like, I read about that, that's not true.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's also these things that I as a human part of me where I get triggered by it, like, ugh, I don't know, uh, uh, yeah, uh, and I have a total judgment about it.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like last week, somebody was saying something, a friend, and I was like, Do you ever channel about it?
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: Because this actually triggers me and I want to know.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: And then a whole truth of like, oh no, no, no, no, no, this is the way it really is.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_01: It was about kids now, and they're like, they're actually just coming in and they're actually more potent, they're more powerful, they just have really more expansive energies.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so here I am in my day-to-day life, and I have such a like a judgment about it.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then when I channel, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is actually the truth of it, and it all comes back to love.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, do you have any finished final words for just today?
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_01: I hope to do this again because I'm learning so much from you.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, final words are just I'm hearing don't take it so seriously.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm hearing.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_00: Don't take it too seriously.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_00: Step into your light.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I got.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_00: Don't take it too seriously.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have any words for me?
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being you.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um I love, I think I gravitate to um healers like you and myself.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was you that one time that said it's not um a spiritual costume.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I think that's the other part of like when we step into these things, that it doesn't have to look a certain way.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: We don't have to dress differently or whatever, that it all is about the full embodiment of yourself and how you express yourself and how you show up and how you look and how you share your gifts.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm really grateful that I found you because you're gorgeous, but you don't wear a spiritual costume.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're very much very human and very honest in the human experience and incredibly powerful in your transformative gifts that you offer other people.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it feels really incredible to be on the receiving side of your love and your truth and your energy, and even more to be in your orbit as a friend.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm really, really grateful to have you as a friend.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: But every I I I everything you said, I could say back to you because I I I feel that way about you.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've known you for several years, but you and I have become friends over the last couple of years and worked together in this realm.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I like you have just been so pivotal for me and my journey and um my embodied embodiment is actually my word of the year.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a word of the year practice, and embodiment is actually my word, so you've been very pivotal for my embodiment journey.
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you see, on Monday nights, I have energy club, and so we just do this on Zoom.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_01: But what I what always just keeps on coming up is that we literally are just mirroring parts of truth to each other, and even if we trigger each other, that's a mirrored reflection as well.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_01: So thanks for thanks for being a part of my matrix story.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_00: You channeled a session for me once and you said that we were like, this is what I remember from it, is before we incarnated in this life.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like we were like kind of like looking down over like the world, and like, all right, you ready for this?
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And here we are, like we're we're doing it, we're we're like our paths are different, but we're like we're kind of like together on our path, like moving forward, so it's fun.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I would love to do this again because I would love to talk about the other side that you started to touch upon about the where the planet is and what's happening.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're down for another segment, I am, I am.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because what I'm what I'm seeing a lot is that I mean, this is I see it as almost daily.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_00: It looks like a bulldozer just moving through the planet right now.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to talk about that because that's what I've been getting in readings, but I've never actually broadcasted it out.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_01: But I feel like people's heads are about to spin.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_01: And for those that can understand what's happening and anchor in to truth and love and community, it'll be you'll understand what's happening, I guess, a little bit more.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you might be doing it.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sweet.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, yes.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: I have to do a shout out to Kimmy who suggested this.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_01: So, Kimmy, this is all because of you two.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we're all influencing one another, and that's it.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Kimmy.
• 1:12:45
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, I then I can't wait to talk again.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_01: All right, all right, let's do it.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, for the rest of your day.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna what am I gonna do?
• 1:12:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna stop the recording.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, bye, everybody.