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The Current State of Politics and the Upcoming Midterm Elections · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that never sleeps.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Media. Is a man
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  Speaker 1: And I am.
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  Speaker 4: Still just so grateful for those of you that have
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  Speaker 4: still people still giving because there are still people that
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  Speaker 4: everything that you've done. We'll have a kind of a
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  Speaker 4: final report on the Bible effort coming up Thursday, I think.
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  Speaker 4: So something happened last night. That's not uncommon. I went
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  Speaker 4: to bed probably 11, 1130, something like that. And somewhere
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  Speaker 4: around two 30 or three o'clock I woke up and
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  Speaker 4: when my mind just turns on, it just turns on.
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  Speaker 4: I can't, there's nothing I can do to turn it off.
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  Speaker 4: I've tried, uh, But when it decides it's time for
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  Speaker 4: me to think about stuff, I start thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: So I get up because I don't want to bother
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  Speaker 4: the lovely bride. And I kind of go into another
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  Speaker 4: part of the house. And I'm scrolling and reading and
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  Speaker 4: thinking about today and thinking about the things that we
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  Speaker 4: want to accomplish and so forth. And one of the
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  Speaker 4: things that I did is, of course, scroll through social
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  Speaker 4: media and the headlines. And last night, my social media
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  Speaker 4: feeds were just stock full of satellite images, supposedly, all
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  Speaker 4: reportedly from Google Earth, showing whole neighborhoods of Gaza just
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  Speaker 4: reduced to gray rubble. The posts accompanying them tend to
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  Speaker 4: also share a unilateral conclusion. This is the evidence of genocide,
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  Speaker 4: and Israel is guilty of it. That's what they were
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  Speaker 4: trying to say in showing these Google Earth pictures of
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  Speaker 4: these obliterated concrete buildings in Gaza. The images are sobering,
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  Speaker 4: and they should be, because behind every collapsed roof was
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  Speaker 4: a family, a kitchen table, children who slept there. Anyone
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  Speaker 4: who can look at these pictures and feel nothing has
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  Speaker 4: lost something important, a piece of their humanity. Grief over
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  Speaker 4: the suffering of civilians is not a betrayal of Israel,
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  Speaker 4: and it's not a weakness. It just simply is what
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  Speaker 4: decent people feel, including Israelis, I might add. Israel was
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  Speaker 4: the first to offer help to people who were injured
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  Speaker 4: in the Israeli war, and they continued to take Gazans
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  Speaker 4: to Israeli hospitals and help them long after the fighting
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  Speaker 4: was over. But grief is not the same as understanding.
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  Speaker 4: A photograph taken from basically outer space orbit can show
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  Speaker 4: you what happened to a place, but it can't tell
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  Speaker 4: you why. And if we're going to render judgments that
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  Speaker 4: history is going to record, we owe it to the
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  Speaker 4: dead on every side to get the why, in this case, right.
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  Speaker 4: Go back to October 6, 2023. On that day, there
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  Speaker 4: was a ceasefire in place between Israel and Gaza. It
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  Speaker 4: had been in place for a while. Israel had withdrawn
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  Speaker 4: every soldier and every settler from Gaza nearly two decades earlier.
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  Speaker 4: In 2005, and then Hamas seized full control of the
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  Speaker 4: territory in 2007. Whatever grievances existed, and there were many,
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  Speaker 4: the people of southern Israel went to bed on October
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  Speaker 4: 6th in their homes, in the kibbutzes, and young people
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  Speaker 4: danced at a music festival near the border, believing that
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  Speaker 4: the world was at peace. The next morning, Hamas terrorists
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  Speaker 4: crossed that border, murdered 1,200 people in cold blood, almost
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  Speaker 4: all of them civilians. They killed elderly people in their homes.
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  Speaker 4: They killed parents in front of their children. They raped
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  Speaker 4: mothers in front of sons, and they raped daughters in
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  Speaker 4: front of fathers. They took more than 250 hostages, including babies.
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  Speaker 4: some of whom they popped the heads off of, grandmothers,
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  Speaker 4: and women back into Gaza. It was the deadliest, ugliest,
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  Speaker 4: most destructive single day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
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  Speaker 4: Hamas didn't build that capacity alone, by the way. For years,
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  Speaker 4: Iran has funded, armed, and trained Hamas as part of
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  Speaker 4: its network of proxy forces aimed at Israel's destruction. The rockets,
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  Speaker 4: the money, the expertise, the ambition to strike at the
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  Speaker 4: Jewish state from every direction. Most of that traces back
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  Speaker 4: to Tehran. Iran has been content to fight Israel to
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  Speaker 4: the last Palestinian. That's a phrase. Iran is very happy
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  Speaker 4: to fight Israel to the last Palestinian. Hamas spent several
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  Speaker 4: years building hundreds of miles of tunnels beneath the homes
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  Speaker 4: in Gaza. Schools, mosques, hospitals. It placed its fighters, its weapons,
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  Speaker 4: and its command centers among the very civilians it claimed
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  Speaker 4: to govern. It did this deliberately because it understood that
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  Speaker 4: when Israel responded and it knew Israel would respond, the
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  Speaker 4: resulting devastation would become its most effective propaganda. The rubble
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  Speaker 4: in these pictures is in no small part the rubble
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  Speaker 4: that Hamas planned for. On September 11th in 2001, I
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  Speaker 4: spent 18 hours on the air the day after I
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  Speaker 4: was named host of my own program. I remember images
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  Speaker 4: of Lower Manhattan, the smoke, the twisted steel. No serious
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  Speaker 4: person looked at Ground Zero and concluded that America was
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  Speaker 4: the aggressor. Nor, when America answered, did the rubble left
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  Speaker 4: behind in Afghanistan erase the question of who had started it.
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  Speaker 4: One of the first rules of the playground was simple
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  Speaker 4: when I was little. Don't start it. It was not
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  Speaker 4: a rule meant to excuse whatever came next, but it
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  Speaker 4: was a recognition that the one who throws the first
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  Speaker 4: punch bears a unique responsibility for everything that follows. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: some adults pretend that geopolitics is too complicated for such
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  Speaker 4: a lesson. It is not. I will be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I grow very weary of having to explain this. But
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  Speaker 4: weariness is no excuse for silence because history is being
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  Speaker 4: written right now. and one viral image at a time,
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  Speaker 4: and it's not too much, and there's not much of
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  Speaker 4: it at all, in fact, that's being written about its
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  Speaker 4: original chapter. The destruction in Gaza is real, and it
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  Speaker 4: is heartbreaking. It is also the direct consequence of a
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  Speaker 4: choice made by Hamas, backed by Iran, on October 7th.
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  Speaker 4: Had that choice not been made, those neighborhoods would still
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  Speaker 4: be intact. And if we want fewer images like these
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  Speaker 4: in the future, the lesson could not be plainer. Don't
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  Speaker 4: here at the beginning that we stop everything else that's
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  Speaker 4: happening and we say we need to ask the big question,
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  Speaker 4: how do we live? How do we live in a
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  Speaker 4: culture that has no use for God, has really just
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  Speaker 4: overt disdain for his word. And for those of us
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  Speaker 4: that find God precious in his word, even more so,
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  Speaker 4: they look at us with great suspicion at best, maybe
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  Speaker 4: direct hostility at worst, but at best they look at
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  Speaker 4: us with great suspicion. And we say, how do we
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  Speaker 4: go about our life as believers in light of this
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  Speaker 4: culture that we're in with this being the reality? Well,
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  Speaker 4: I'm very grateful to have shepherds joining me week after week,
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  Speaker 4: giving up a big chunk of their week to spend
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  Speaker 4: time with us. And Rabbi Alan Moorhead, Dr. Moorhead, is
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  Speaker 4: joining us from the Arrowhead Messianic Congregation in Peoria, Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: And yesterday, Alan, we started unpacking the feasts of the
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  Speaker 4: Lord that are in the spring. And we talked about
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  Speaker 4: Passover in Leviticus 23. But there are three others in
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  Speaker 4: the ensuing verses. In verse 6, you have the feast
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  Speaker 4: of the unleavened bread, and then you have the two
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  Speaker 4: feasts of the firstfruits, the barley firstfruits, and then the
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  Speaker 4: wheat firstfruits. So let's continue on with the unleavened bread
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  Speaker 4: feast of the Lord. What is this to represent in
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  Speaker 4: the life of the believer?
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  Speaker 9: Well, Kevin, the unleavened bread is to be celebrated for
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  Speaker 9: seven days, and the first day and the seventh day
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  Speaker 9: are Sabbath days. But you've got to understand the seven-day concept,
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  Speaker 9: whether you're talking about seven days of tabernacle or seven
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  Speaker 9: days of unleavened bread, it has to do with the entirety.
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  Speaker 3: Of your life.
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  Speaker 6: That's what the seven represents.
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  Speaker 9: And so when a person receives Yeshua, Jesus, as his
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  Speaker 9: Lord and Savior, he enters in now the seven-day window,
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  Speaker 9: I guess, until the day he's either raptured or dies.
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  Speaker 9: And we have commandments of what we're supposed to do
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  Speaker 9: during the seven days now. Things like Leviticus 6, 17,
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  Speaker 9: where it says, don't offer leaven with your sacrifice. Leaven
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  Speaker 9: represents sin. And the Apostle Paul talks about this, too.
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  Speaker 9: He says in 1 Corinthians 5, 7-8, Purge out.
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  Speaker 6: Therefore, the old leaven. You are unleavened.
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  Speaker 9: Messiah is our Passover who has sacrificed for us. So
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  Speaker 9: we have to understand that leaven itself, which the symbolism.
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  Speaker 6: Is that you got yeast in it and it's puffed up.
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  Speaker 9: And throughout the scripture, even Yeshua, Jesus talked about beware
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  Speaker 9: of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
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  Speaker 6: Beware of the leaven of Herod, which was sin, adulterous,
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  Speaker 6: and murder.
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  Speaker 9: So we have to keep the leaven out of our lives.
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  Speaker 9: Once we receive Yeshua, Jesus, as our Passover, we are
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  Speaker 9: now required to live righteous lives. And this is important.
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  Speaker 9: You know, people seem to forget that. Well, I got Jesus.
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  Speaker 9: Now I can just do what I want to do. No,
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  Speaker 9: you cannot. And, you know, you have to walk in
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  Speaker 9: the ways of the Lord now until the day he
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  Speaker 9: calls you home, either by death or by the rapture.
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  Speaker 9: So unleavened bread is something that's kept on Passover along
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  Speaker 9: with bitter herbs, which indicates the persecution that we go
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  Speaker 9: through as believers. You know, Acts 14, 22 tells us
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  Speaker 9: that through much tribulation, we enter the kingdom of God.
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  Speaker 9: And in John 16, verse 33, it says, In the
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  Speaker 9: world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer
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  Speaker 9: that he has overcome the world. So it comes with
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  Speaker 9: the territory when you're a believer, and you just got
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  Speaker 9: to expect it.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm very curious about something. What was it about
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  Speaker 4: the ingredient of leaven that made the... you know, the
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  Speaker 4: biblical writers associated with sin. They don't say don't consume leaven.
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  Speaker 3: At all, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: There's just in these feasts and specific times that you
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  Speaker 4: specifically abstain from it. But what was it about this
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  Speaker 4: particular ingredient that even Jesus himself kind of identified in
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  Speaker 4: that kind of symbolic way of being sent?
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  Speaker 9: Egypt they they cooked themselves up bread real quick and
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  Speaker 9: all they did really was mix flour and and oil
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  Speaker 9: together and baked it real quick they didn't give it
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  Speaker 9: time to rise there was no no yeast in it
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  Speaker 9: and so there was a symbol symbolism set up right
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  Speaker 9: then and there that when they fled egypt which is
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  Speaker 9: like coming out of the world that you you quickly
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  Speaker 9: move when the lord says move And so that's why
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  Speaker 9: he said, when you have Passover, you can, it has
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  Speaker 9: to be.
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  Speaker 3: A lamb unleavened bread and bitter herbs.
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  Speaker 4: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 9: All of that comes together with how we are to
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  Speaker 9: live our lives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
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  Speaker 4: So that's in Leviticus 23 verse six. Now, if we
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  Speaker 4: drop down to verses 10 through 14, there's a feast
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  Speaker 4: referred to as the barley first fruits feast. What is
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  Speaker 4: this describing?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I explain a lot of this in my different books.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I have 11 books, including the Moedim or
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  Speaker 9: the Feast of the Lord. I have, you know, the
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  Speaker 9: commentary on Enoch that I wrote, the first commentary since
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  Speaker 9: the 1800s on Enoch. And I also have it in
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  Speaker 9: the Tabernacle of Moses and the Believer's Walk, and including
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  Speaker 9: commentary on Revelation. But barley firstfruits occurs during the time,
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  Speaker 9: the seven days of unleavened bread. And what this represents,
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  Speaker 9: anytime you're talking about fruit or trees, it represents people.
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  Speaker 6: So barley firstfruits was fulfilled. There was a rapture that
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  Speaker 6: was fulfilled.
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  Speaker 9: In Matthew 27, verse 53, that when Jesus rose from
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  Speaker 9: the dead, many other graves were opened up. And then
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  Speaker 9: that's when he goes, he went down to hell, release
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  Speaker 9: the captives. They're in the bosom of Abraham, which you
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  Speaker 9: can read in Luke 16.
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  Speaker 6: And he took them to paradise.
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  Speaker 9: And at the same time, the graves were opened up
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  Speaker 9: and all those people were raptured.
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  Speaker 6: So there was a series of raptures.
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  Speaker 9: And the barley first fruits was the first series of
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  Speaker 9: raptures to take place. And it already has happened here.
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  Speaker 9: And this is why it also tells you in the
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  Speaker 9: barley fresh fruits that it is a statute forever. Every
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  Speaker 9: time you see that word, we'll talk more about it
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  Speaker 9: later in the week. But statute forever is very important
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  Speaker 9: to understand that it's a permanent thing that's going to
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  Speaker 9: be that that occurred. And so during first fruits, the farmer,
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  Speaker 9: it's important to understand what a first fruit is. A
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  Speaker 9: first fruit is a tiny piece of a general harvest
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  Speaker 9: of a large field. So the farmer brings his first
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  Speaker 9: fruit to the house of the Lord and to the
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  Speaker 9: priest there, and he waves it before.
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  Speaker 6: God and then brings it in the house.
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  Speaker 9: So this is, you know, the symbolism here is, The
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  Speaker 9: firstfruits go to the Lord. They're presented by the Lord.
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  Speaker 9: The farmer, which is Yeshua, Jesus here, he presents us
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  Speaker 9: or whoever believes in him to the Father. And anyone
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  Speaker 9: he presents to the Father will be accepted and then
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  Speaker 9: brought into the house, which is a term of a
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  Speaker 9: rapture coming into the.
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  Speaker 6: House of God.
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  Speaker 9: Firstfruits belong to the Lord. This is what we read
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  Speaker 9: in Revelation 14. And in my commentary in Revelation, I
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  Speaker 9: really explain this. that 144,000, which are the first fruits
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  Speaker 9: of the Lord, follow the Lamb wherever he goes. This
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  Speaker 9: is not talking about Israel. This is talk, because it
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  Speaker 9: says they are redeemed from mankind. That's what I point
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  Speaker 9: out in my commentary. You know, Revelation 7, that's from Israel,
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  Speaker 9: but Revelation 14 says, is 144,000, which is a symbolic
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  Speaker 9: number of the government of God. And this is what
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  Speaker 9: we learned in Isaiah, that the government has no end
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  Speaker 9: with Yeshua. They follow the Lamb wherever He goes. So
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  Speaker 9: if we're following the Lamb wherever He goes, we've got
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  Speaker 9: to go along with this. We understand that we are firstfruits,
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  Speaker 9: and that's important.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: We have just a minute left. The next chunk of
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  Speaker 4: that passage, verses 15 through 17, deals with something called
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  Speaker 4: the wheat firstfruits. What distinguishes them from the barley firstfruits?
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  Speaker 9: Took place, 50 days later, you come to the week
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  Speaker 9: first fruits. And that's why it's called Pentecost, which means 50,
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  Speaker 9: or Shavuot in Hebrew, which means weeks, because you count
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  Speaker 9: out seven weeks. And so that is the next rapture
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  Speaker 9: that's going to take place. And so this is the
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  Speaker 9: one that most of us alive on this earth today
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  Speaker 9: that believe in the Lord are waiting for is the
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  Speaker 9: next wheat first fruits rapture which would occur in the
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  Speaker 9: spring we learn that in the songs of solomon chapter
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  Speaker 9: 2 and isaiah 18 when the flower is in the
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  Speaker 9: grapevine so that's the spring So it's.
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  Speaker 6: Not the general harvest, which would be in the fall.
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  Speaker 9: So this is why it's important for us to be
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  Speaker 9: in the spring first fruits to be presented to the
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  Speaker 9: father and enter into the house that we are following
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  Speaker 9: the lamb wherever he goes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. That wraps up the spring feasts of the Lord.
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  Speaker 4: Tomorrow we will start a two day discussion on the
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  Speaker 4: fall feasts and we'll kind of go through them. And
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  Speaker 4: then Friday we'll, we'll put it all together and say,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: ask the big question. What does it all mean? But
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  Speaker 4: so grateful to have Alan Moorhead, Dr. Alan Moorhead with us,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: senior rabbi at the Arrowhead Messianic Congregation. And Alan, thank
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  Speaker 4: you for your time again today.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Kevin.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: You got it. Kevin McCullough coming right back. Stick around
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  Speaker 8: Of That Kevin next. Here he is from New York,
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  Speaker 4: It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com. So grateful to have you
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  Speaker 4: 1,000 Bibles in two days. We're so grateful. Could we
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  Speaker 4: do 2,400 Bibles in one day or today? Could we
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  Speaker 4: mention this, but there are some of you that That
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  Speaker 4: But Michael, we do have some people to thank. And
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  Speaker 4: then you want to take us to another theater where
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, we added 140 Bibles to the tally because of
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  Speaker 10: people like Stephanie of Gainesville, Georgia said, I'm in at
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  Speaker 10: to fill the waiting hands of 100 believers that we
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• 23:29
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• 23:35
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• 23:39
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  Speaker 10: does my $ 5 gift in this great, big, crazy world
• 23:45
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• 23:48
  Speaker 10: that of Lally, the village witch doctor, you know, Katsu,
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: leading his interrogator to Christ, you know, it came down
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: to one Bible, somebody able to share what's in that Bible.
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: And as I love to say, a gracious God willing
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: to bring people from the grips of spiritual darkness. So again,
• 24:03
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kevin, I want to take you to Tanzania, Africa.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: Again, this is the part of the world where Christianity
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: is growing in the greatest numbers.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: In the world.
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: I was chatting with my colleague, a man by the
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: name of Jared. We were talking about, you know, the
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: assurances that we have. God will accomplish his purpose in
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: this world. We were walking in from the parking lot, Kevin,
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: in the greater Chicago area. You've been to our headquarters.
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: You know what I'm talking about, right? And etched in
• 24:52
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• 24:54
  Speaker 10: It says, my word will go forth. It will not
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: return void. It will accomplish my purposes. And we have
• 25:00
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• 25:11
  Speaker 10: be reminded about the precious promises of God, including that
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: of Isaiah 55. But Jared had just returned from a
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: trip to Tanzania. Kevin, he had given out Bibles to
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: about 200 new believers. One of those was an 80-year-old woman,
• 25:26
  Speaker 10: had walked with the Lord for about 20 years, had
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: lived so remotely. Kevin, she didn't have a, She didn't
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: have a cell phone. It had been rare that she'd
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: even looked at the face of a clock. That's remote,
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: isn't it? But Jared had this to say about her
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: finally receiving that Bible. And what a tremendous blessing that was,
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: not only to her, but to her entire community.
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: Isaiah 55 does really stand out because it shows that
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: we can really trust that when we are sharing the
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: Word of God, this is going to be an incredible investment.
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: We know that it's not going to return void. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: think of the testimony recently of Farasia in Tanzania. And
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: the area where she was at, she had never seen
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: a printed Bible study or even a Bible, you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: in several different churches in there until she was in
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: retirement age and received her very first Bible as a
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: result of the generosity of Bible League donors. What an
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: incredible gift to her, to that village.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: Again, what a gift.
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: And how did we make that possible? Well, it's through listeners.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: Like those two, that Kevin show, Kevin. Again, Paul in
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: Galatians 6 says what? Bear one another's burdens and thus
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: fulfill the law of Christ. Kevin, you and I are
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: excited about church growth, right? We're excited we hear about
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: a church planted, you know, a former village witch doctor
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: coming to Christ. But I assure you there are forces
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: at work in this world that push back on all
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: of this. Again, it's not enough to get angry about
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: that or to feel indifferent about what's happening half a
• 26:55
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• 26:58
  Speaker 10: so many others have done.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: They said, what?
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: Let's do something about it. If the princely sum of
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: $ 5 solves this for Christians like Farasa, they're deep in
• 27:07
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• 27:08
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• 28:39
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• 28:44
  Speaker 4: many times in the past when I've just been on
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: in New York. But he has a global ministry that
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: is on TV and radio. He's on many of the
• 28:52
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• 28:56
  Speaker 4: is always wonderful to have you with us. I have
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: to tell you, I was traveling from northern New Jersey
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: into New York City a few weeks ago. It probably
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: happened I don't know, four or five times now that
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: it's caught my attention, which is pretty interesting because it
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: takes a little bit to get my attention. But once
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: it does, it's like I zero in on it. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I'm going through the like the the collar communities of
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Manhattan there in North Jersey to the George Washington Bridge.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: And as I get close to the or just past,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I think it is the one of the big malls there.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: There's this huge billboard, white background, big block. red letters, jews.com.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: And I thought with that, all of the anti-Semitism, with
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: all the stuff that's going on in the world today,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: for someone to take out a URL and put it
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: on a billboard like that is a bold move, especially
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: in the New York City tri-state area where we have
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: such a problem with the anti-Semitism and everything else. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: then I read that it is a work of you
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: and your ministry and what you're doing with it. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I'm just fascinated by this. But welcome back. It's great
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: to have you. Tell us what your goal is in
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: the Jews.com big signs. And they're all over the tri-state.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: They're all over.
• 30:13
  Speaker 12: It's massive what we're doing throughout New York City and
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: northern New Jersey. First of all, this is a God story, Kevin,
• 30:19
  Speaker 12: in our audience today. In September of 2023, I know
• 30:23
  Speaker 12: this is a little bit out there, but the fact
• 30:25
  Speaker 12: that I own Jews.com gives credibility to what I'm about
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: to share. In September of 2023, I had an experience
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: one night where I was sleeping, Kevin, but I was awake.
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: It was like I was sleeping in the night. It
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: was like three in the morning or something. I don't
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: know what time it was, but I was awake of
• 30:42
  Speaker 12: what was going on. And in this spiritual experience, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: was in like this gray, it felt like a spiritual
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: weather pattern.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Like I was surrounded by this gray atmosphere. It almost
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: felt oppressive.
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: And a voice kept speaking to me the same words
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: over and over and over again. Acts 2.22, Tetrarch. Over
• 31:02
  Speaker 12: and over, the voice kept coming, Kevin. It didn't feel good.
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: It was, it almost felt oppressive.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Like, what is this?
• 31:07
  Speaker 12: Like, I wanted to get it off me, but it
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: kept on coming, Acts 2.22, Tetrarch. As soon as I
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: got out of bed in the morning, I went down
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: to my prayer room. I opened up the Word of
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: God to specifically read, well, what exactly does Acts 2.22 say?
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: And in a nutshell, here's what it says. God is
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: revealing in his word.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Peter is speaking. And Peter is speaking to Israel. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: he says this. Men of Israel, listen to these words.
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by miracles, signs,
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: and wonders, just as you yourself know, you put to
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: death by the predetermined plan of God through godless men.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: But God raised him up again since the grave was
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: not able to.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: To hold them in its power.
• 31:52
  Speaker 12: And as soon as I read that, Kevin, in our
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: audience today, I knew that God was calling me to
• 31:56
  Speaker 12: directly challenge and confront Israel with the gospel. That's what
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: Peter was doing in Acts 2.22. Men of Israel, listen
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: to these words. And the word that also came to
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: me in September of 2023 was the word tetrarch.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: It was Acts 2.22, tetrarch.
• 32:10
  Speaker 13: Acts 2.22, tetrarch.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what tetrarch was. I heard of it before.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what it was.
• 32:18
  Speaker 12: What it is, it's a governmental ruler. Technically, it's a
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: ruler of a fourth of a kingdom, but it's a
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: governmental term that someone has authority in this particular area.
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: So I knew the Lord was telling me, I'm calling
• 32:30
  Speaker 12: you to challenge Israel with the gospel, and I've given
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: you authority to do this. So I felt completely incompetent. Like,
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: how in the world am I going to challenge Israel.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: With the gospel? I mean, look, how am I going
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: to do that?
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: But I was confident and knew that God had spoken
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: to me. So bottom line, we began by putting up
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: billboards in Israel, the physical, you know, nation of Israel.
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: And the billboard said, what if he's right in Hebrew?
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: And it had an image of a man. You couldn't
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: tell who it was. So the concept was people would say, well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: what if who's right?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Then they'd go to the.
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: Domain name and they would find some messianic prophecy. And
• 33:06
  Speaker 12: then finally, after the last messianic prophecy, the image that
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: they saw on the billboard of the man's face But
• 33:12
  Speaker 12: they were unable to see who the man was because
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: it was fuzzy. All of a sudden, at the end
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: of the communication, when they went to the domain, what
• 33:19
  Speaker 12: if he's right? The man's face became clear and the
• 33:23
  Speaker 12: face of Jesus appeared with a thorn of crowns on
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: his head and blood coming down his face. And then
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: Jesus saying, do not think I've come to abolish the law,
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: but fulfill it. And then we gave him the opportunity
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: to download a book that I wrote on messianic prophecy
• 33:36
  Speaker 12: for free. So we were spending a lot of money
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: in Israel doing this, but we were not getting the response, Kevin,
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: that I was believing for. So I got my key
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: executives together in my office, specifically in January, it was
• 33:48
  Speaker 12: several months ago to talk about this. I believe it was,
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: it was right early January of this year. I got
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: them together and I said, listen, guys, We know God's
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: called us to challenge Israel, but what we're doing is
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: not working.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: We need to figure out what to do next.
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: And I never told them before that it wasn't working,
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: but this meeting was called to admit where it's not working.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: So we're in my office to try to figure out
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: what to do next.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: And Kevin, I looked down at my phone and I
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: had an email or a text or email, I forget,
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: from a domain name broker I hadn't done business.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: With in three years. I had not heard from the guy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: And there he says, Rabbi, I've got an.
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: Email, a domain name that I think you might be
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: interested in, jews.com.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Good and evil forces that are at work here. I'll
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: give you the last word.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Thank you, brother. And thank you for praying.
• 34:36
  Speaker 12: We just got an email from somebody last week. They
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: emailed us through Jews.com and he said exactly this is
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: what he said.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I'm a Jewish man. How can I follow?
• 34:45
  Speaker 12: Jesus as the Messiah. So we're getting all different. We're
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: getting anti-Semites. We're getting people that hate me and Jesus
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: and what we're doing. And then we're getting Jewish people
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: that want more information, even to the extent of the
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: email that we just got last week. Listen, people that
• 34:59
  Speaker 12: want to support this, please do. Go to discoveringthejewishjesus.com and give,
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: because this literally, Kevin, I won't even tell you how
• 35:07
  Speaker 12: much money this is costing us, but there's no information
• 35:11
  Speaker 12: on jews.com, no asking people to give.
• 35:13
  Speaker 14: Right, right, right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: It's a pure evangelistic.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: It's all designed to reach Jewish people.
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: So if this is touching you, you that are listening,
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: please go to Discovering the Jewish Jesus and donate. Help
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: us to do what we're doing because we want to
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: bring this to other cities in the United States and
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: reach every Jew in this country.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Excellent.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Rabbi, thank you for your time. Discovering the Jewish Jesus
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: is heard on many of the same stations that you
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: get that Kevin show. And I encourage you to check
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: that out and discoveringthejewishjesus.com how you can support this effort.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Rabbi Schneider, we appreciate it. Kevin McCullough coming right back
• 35:43
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• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Kelly McCullough, final few minutes of the first hour today.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Glad to have you here. I got to weigh in
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: on something that happened yesterday with New York Magazine. Not
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: that New York Magazine is something that I read.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: But they did stake out some interesting territory yesterday. I'll
• 36:29
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• 36:31
  Speaker 4: know if you were listening yesterday, but I had the
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• 39:04
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• 40:12
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• 40:15
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• 40:19
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• 40:23
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  Speaker 4: Today, news-wise, it's a pretty crummy day for this reason.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Lindsey Clancy is back in court. And I thought we
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: would be done with this for a while. And evidently,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: it's right back. We're right back again. So her defense attorney, Mr. Reddington,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: and the prosecutor are locking horns over what should be
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: addressed and what shouldn't be. One of the things that
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: the defense lawyer for Lindsay Clancy has requested is for
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: the judge to take an issue that and set up
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: an inquiry into the lone holdout juror, Michael Desronville, who,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: by the way, for the first time yesterday, spoke as
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: to the situation. And the summary of his statement was
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: that it's wrong to make him the focus of what's
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: happened here, as it is the children who have died,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: which was the reason why he couldn't let Lindsay Clancy walk.
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: There were dead kids. in the path of her getting freedom.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Her wheelchairs were wheeling through her children's blood, metaphorically speaking.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: So evidently the defense lawyer for Lindsay did not like
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: that and said, well, we can't be letting this guy
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: be out there talking. So he's now asked the judge
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: in the Lindsay Clancy trial to set up a motion
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: for one day Look into the... And I don't know
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: what they're going to look into. You can't intimidate a
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: juror into voting how you want him to vote. And
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: all the Karens that were on that jury, and that's
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: what they were, man.
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Every last one of them.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Well, didn't you.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Know that she had really strong feelings? Yeah, so? Well,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: didn't you hear that she was really sad?
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: But we don't let her kill her children because she's sad.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: But she was really, really sad. And they said it
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: in court. This is the level of the argument that
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: has been going on and why the juror, as one
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: of his fellow jurors said to, I think it was
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: 60 Minutes or one of the shows, but she said
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: he just couldn't get past the fact that she had
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: brutally killed her kids. No kidding. Imagine a juror on
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: a murder trial saying, being incapable of getting past the
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: fact that she had brutally murdered her own children. And
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: don't start with me saying it was the husband. She
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: said she did it. Her attorney said she did it.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: The police said she did it. Everybody that looked at
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: it has said she did it. Her doctor said she,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: everybody has said that she did it. So she did it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: You just want to excuse the killing of children to
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: ingratiate yourself to these people that are saying, oh, we're
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: not being merciful enough. If we say that she killed
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: her children, no, she killed her children. It doesn't do
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: us any moral good to pretend that she didn't. Now,
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: the assistant district attorney, Jennifer Sprague, has pushed back strongly
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: against the unsealing of the deadlock notes from the jury,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: warning the court that exposing sensitive deliberative communications would set
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: a dangerous precedent. If we go further to make public
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: notes sent by the jury, it just would all pile
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: on to have this repeated chilling effect that would harm
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: and irreparably our judicial system, Sprague argued, emphasizing that future
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: jurors might hesitate to communicate with the judge if they
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: fear their private discussions will be broadcast to the public.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think she's wrong. When jurors are asking judges
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: for information and for notes on stuff that happened in
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the trial, they're doing that so that they can make
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: the best decision that they can. But you can't, if
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: you're doing that under the, premise that your communications are shielded,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: you're going to ask for things in a different way
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: than if there's a possibility that it might get leaked
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: at some point in time. And you might not ask
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: those questions at all then. One other thing, Kevin Reddington,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: the defense attorney, was pushing back today against claims that
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: his team targeted a holdout juror, telling the judge that
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: they are sick of being accused of persecuting the juror
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: before declining to address the pending motion on jury notes.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: The tense atmosphere gave way to a brief moment of
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: levity as the court turned to trial scheduling when Assistant
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: District Attorney Jennifer Sprague argued against setting a trial date
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: until all outstanding motions are resolved, and Reddington agreed with her.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: So they've got all these little tit-for-tat procedures that they
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: need to go through to try to wrap up what's
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: before them now to say that they're ready to start
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: the retrial. But the defense attorney is getting mad. He's
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: sick of being accused that they have been persecuting a juror.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Of course, it's the lone holdout juror that everyone's referring to.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: And of course, they've been harassing him. This isn't even
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the least bit unclear. The other jurors went on primetime
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: TV to explain to the world why they believe this
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: holdout juror was the devil. And he's evidently a man
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: of deep and devout faith. He's a father of small children.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: You can understand why he might just not be able
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: to get over the fact that a mom brutally murdered
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: her children. That seems pretty reasonable to be upset about
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: if you're a juror and you're hearing the evidence in
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: this case. And then when everybody on her side said
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: that she did it, including herself, how are you supposed
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: to process that? But then after that trial is over,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: you're Your name and person is getting linked all throughout
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: the media as being the guy that didn't let the
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: mom go free when she was found innocent. She wasn't
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: found innocent, by the way. A mistrial was declared. And
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: even if the jury had said she was innocent, friends,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: I can never, in this life, I can't forgive that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: That is something that is too gruesome and too heinous
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: and too evil for me to even be able to comprehend.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: And I have to trust that God's judgment of it
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: will be the best judgment possible. So I have to
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: leave that to him because in my own natural strength,
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I would be strapping her to the electric chair without
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: one ounce of worry about it. My conscience would be clear.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: You killed your three kids brutally. That's why they don't
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: let me be in charge of such things. Kevin McCullough
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: coming right back.
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back. It's Tuesday, and we always appreciate
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: the fact that KT McFarlane carves out some very valuable
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: time of her schedule to enlighten us a little bit
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: on some of the things that are not clearly evident
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: to the naked eye, and KT, I'm always appreciative of that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I've known you, I don't know how many years, I
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: think we go back quite a ways, and every time
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Every conversation.
• 51:23
  Speaker 13: Not not yours.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Every every conversation I have with you in private, in public,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: on the air, off the air. I always learn something.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: And so it's something that I'm just really grateful for.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: And you bring this expertise to my listeners now. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I just want to say thank you for that. Last
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: week you had the. fireworks of the un and all
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: the crazy back and forth and the flat-nosed guy from
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: iran saying we've never launched a terror attack on anybody
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: in 200 years and i'm like october 7th dude come
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: on and like it's just it's it's the absurd it's
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: the theater of the absurd now so let's separate that
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: out and look at the narrow time frame of what
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: is to come particularly between now and year end And
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: what what are the mechanisms at President Trump's disposal to
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: effectively force Iran to do what they need to do?
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Because it does not look like they're going to go
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: willingly into the great good night.
• 52:21
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think I would separate until the end of
• 52:24
  Speaker 15: the year. I'd separate that into two sections, one before
• 52:27
  Speaker 15: the election, two after the election. Before the election, Iran
• 52:33
  Speaker 15: still thinks it's going to trick President Trump or pressure
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: President Trump into somehow conceding a deal on their terms
• 52:42
  Speaker 15: because he's so nervous about the price of gasoline and
• 52:46
  Speaker 15: the outcome of the November election.
• 52:49
  Speaker 13: I think it's already baked into the cake.
• 52:51
  Speaker 15: And from what the president has said and the people
• 52:53
  Speaker 15: around him, they assume that there's no deal coming on
• 52:56
  Speaker 15: Iran's part. And we're not going to do a deal
• 52:59
  Speaker 15: that's bad for us. So no deal coming. And so
• 53:03
  Speaker 15: whatever happens in the midterms happens in the midterms. The
• 53:07
  Speaker 15: day after the midterms, however, I think all hell gets unleashed.
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: And not just the United States, but the Gulf Arabs
• 53:15
  Speaker 15: and Israel acting together. I mean, I keep thinking of
• 53:19
  Speaker 15: it like the Godfather trilogy, part three movie of the Godfather.
• 53:23
  Speaker 13: Remember, the Godfather settles all scores.
• 53:26
  Speaker 15: I think the day after the election, There'll be nothing
• 53:29
  Speaker 15: holding President Trump back from probably pretty significant devastation of Iran,
• 53:34
  Speaker 15: not just the remaining military sites, but any even potentially
• 53:39
  Speaker 15: their energy infrastructure and their civilian infrastructure. Now, why do
• 53:42
  Speaker 15: I say that there'll be no Hulsbar? You know, right now, today,
• 53:45
  Speaker 15: the Saudis and the other Gulf Arabs, they want us
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: on one hand to sort of hold back because they're
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: nervous that Iran is going to attack. their energy infrastructure,
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: but at the same time, they want the United States
• 53:58
  Speaker 15: to go in and, for example, destroy the Houthis, etc.
• 54:02
  Speaker 15: So once there are no holes barred on the United
• 54:05
  Speaker 15: States from the U.S. political perspective, then I think it's,
• 54:10
  Speaker 15: you know, everybody's going to go after Iran. Before that, again,
• 54:14
  Speaker 15: before and after the election, before the election, I think
• 54:17
  Speaker 15: that Iran, realizing that it's straight of Hormuz threat and
• 54:21
  Speaker 15: all of its threats aren't terribly effective anymore because oil
• 54:25
  Speaker 15: has found workarounds to the Strait of Hormuz, that maybe
• 54:28
  Speaker 15: Iran escalates. Maybe Iran decides, okay, now we're going to
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: go for broke. We're going to escalate this war to
• 54:34
  Speaker 15: make it a regional Middle East war. And at that point, again,
• 54:38
  Speaker 15: I think President Trump has no inhibitions to retaliate in
• 54:44
  Speaker 15: an extremely significant way.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Which is ultimately what the region needs. And I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: that There's no reasonable way to deal with the decision
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: makers in Iran. And the president of Iran can come
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: over here and grumble all he wants to at the
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: podium at the UN. Nobody believes that he has any
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: decision-making ability. There's no one. It's like you sent the
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: JV coach over to try to play the game on
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: behalf of the team. There's nobody there. It's an empty suit.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And these guys, the IRGC, have been unwilling to be
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: able to enter into discussions that follow traditional, rational, logical outcomes.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: And I guess what I'm curious about, KT, is do
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: the Arab states that you mentioned, because I was a
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: little surprised that you said that, is the reason they
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: would join the effort is because they understand just what
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: lunatics these guys are as well.
• 55:47
  Speaker 15: I think so, and I realize that you have to
• 55:50
  Speaker 15: destroy the snake. I keep thinking back. There was a
• 55:53
  Speaker 15: brilliant long article written by Ayaan Ali Hershey, a woman
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: who had.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Been originally— I know her well, yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 15: As you know, so originally sort of a Muslim convert
• 56:05
  Speaker 15: to the extremist cause and then completely changed her position.
• 56:09
  Speaker 13: And she wrote to say, look, the West needs.
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: To understand that there's a mentality, a mindset of the Iranians—
• 56:16
  Speaker 15: and the radical extremists in Iran and throughout the region,
• 56:21
  Speaker 15: that there's no compromise. And they want to bring about
• 56:24
  Speaker 15: the end of the world. They think that that's their ticket.
• 56:28
  Speaker 15: We think it's nuts, but they really do believe if
• 56:31
  Speaker 15: they can.
• 56:31
  Speaker 13: Bring about the end of the world.
• 56:33
  Speaker 15: That they get what they want, either in this world
• 56:36
  Speaker 15: or the next. And so they have this messianic death wish.
• 56:41
  Speaker 15: And there's no reasoning with people who have that messianic
• 56:45
  Speaker 15: death wish. And so I guess I've reluctantly come to
• 56:48
  Speaker 15: the conclusion that whoever is the leadership, and I agree
• 56:52
  Speaker 15: with you, it's the IRGC, it's the radicals. Ayatollahs that
• 56:57
  Speaker 15: there's just no convincing them otherwise that they have to
• 56:59
  Speaker 15: be eliminated.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: There's been a lot of discussion on social media in
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: the last couple of days as Google Earth has released
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: the new pictures of the Gaza region and everything's blown
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: off the map and they're saying that this is the
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: destruction of war and this is what we've caused and
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: all the rest of it. Forgetting completely that October 7th
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: was not of Israel's choosing. But I want to touch
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: on that for a second. One of the things that
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: I think made Gaza so tricky is that you had
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: a hard time distinguishing the radicals from the normal citizens
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: in Gaza. And in fact, I think you had a
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: lot of people that kind of had motivations to kind
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: of swing whatever way the weather showed them that day,
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  Speaker 4: depending on how they were trying to survive. Is that
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  Speaker 4: the same in Iran? We see these huge protests that
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  Speaker 4: take place after every election that they hold, and it's
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  Speaker 4: millions and millions of people, it looks like. And yet
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  Speaker 4: they have not taken the opportunity to throw off these guys,
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  Speaker 4: even with foreign support. Is there an Iranian population that
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  Speaker 4: truly does want us to finish off the IRGC? And
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  Speaker 4: if so, do we recruit them for that fight?
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  Speaker 13: You know, there are no popular opinion polls that we
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  Speaker 13: can rely on in Iran, right?
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  Speaker 15: Nobody's going to be able to gauge the temperature of
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  Speaker 15: the average 90 million Iranian citizens. But just from anecdotally,
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  Speaker 15: it's pretty clear that the IRGC and the Ayatollahs, the
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  Speaker 15: radical Ayatollahs, they have a firm grip on everything, on
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  Speaker 15: the economy, on the terror weapon, on the government.
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  Speaker 13: Even on a lot of the government officials.
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  Speaker 15: And they don't seem to care about the 90 million
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  Speaker 15: other fellow citizens.
• 58:48
  Speaker 13: Again, they want to bring about the end of the world.
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  Speaker 15: And it's like Nazi, it's like Hitler and Nazi Germany,
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  Speaker 15: or it's like Kim Jong-un or the Kim family in
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  Speaker 15: North Korea. Or as you point out, it's like Hamas
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  Speaker 15: in Gaza. They don't really care about their people. But
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  Speaker 15: I've got to assume that in a country of 90
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  Speaker 15: million well-educated, smart, innovative, creative people, that there is somebody
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  Speaker 15: that is going to stand up or some groups or
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  Speaker 15: is there going to be a fractured leadership group?
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  Speaker 13: Is there going to be someone that we can support?
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  Speaker 13: I also have to assume that between.
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  Speaker 15: The Gulf Arabs, Mossad, and the U.S., we have a
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  Speaker 15: lot of intelligence of who are we working with people.
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  Speaker 15: If we're not working with people, we're fools. But are
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  Speaker 15: we working with people within Iran who could then be
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  Speaker 15: the new leadership group if the IRGC is eliminated, the
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  Speaker 15: senior leadership of the IRGC?
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  Speaker 4: Didn't it feel for a little bit like the Speaker
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  Speaker 4: of the House and the President were those people? And
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  Speaker 4: maybe they aren't. But not based on his performance at
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  Speaker 4: the UN last week.
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  Speaker 13: Those guys are terrified.
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  Speaker 15: You know, the people that you're referring to, like the
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  Speaker 15: president of the country, the speaker of the parliament, the
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  Speaker 15: people that we've been negotiating with, they're terrified because they've
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  Speaker 15: got to walk a really fine line on one hand.
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  Speaker 15: They worry about the Americans coming after them and assassinating them.
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  Speaker 15: On the other hand, they worry about their own people
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  Speaker 15: assassinating them and removing them from power.
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  Speaker 13: So maybe is that a group that we can build on?
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  Speaker 13: We don't know.
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  Speaker 15: You and I don't know. And hopefully the intelligence community
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 15: does know. And hopefully these are people we're working with.
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  Speaker 15: The same way during the Cold War, we worked with
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  Speaker 15: opposition groups within Poland and with behind the iron curtain
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 15: that we we communicated with them in several ways so
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 15: that we knew if communism collapsed and the soviet union
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 15: disintegrated that we would have people we could work with
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 15: who could rebuild the country.
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  Speaker 4: It is it is um it has been very interesting
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: to watch how this has all played out because i
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: don't think that netanyahu and trump necessarily thought that it
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: would go this long or turn into this fashion And
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: yet they're just proving just how extreme that they really are.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: And to your point that they don't care about their
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: own people. And if all 90 million of them died,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't shed a tear. That's what they want to have.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: That's what they're trying to have happen. The president, to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: his credit, doesn't want to kill 90 million Iranians. He
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: wants to save as many of them as he can
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: that want to live and contribute to a prosperous future.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a different discussion for a different day. KT,
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  Speaker 4: I always appreciate your insights. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: You're welcome. Kevin McCullough coming right back.
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  Speaker 4: is Michael Woolworth, who's checking in once again from HQ
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  Speaker 4: in Bible League country. And Michael, before we do anything else,
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  Speaker 4: let's just say thank you to some people that have
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  Speaker 4: heard the call and have said, I've got to be
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  Speaker 10: Well, we added another 110 to the tally because of
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  Speaker 10: people like Jose of Miami, Florida said, I'm in at
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  Speaker 10: Friends of Bible League in another part of the country said,
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  Speaker 10: that believe so strongly in what we're doing have said, one,
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  Speaker 10: They want to put Bibles into as many waiting hands
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  Speaker 10: others that have gotten us to this point. Kevin, we've
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  Speaker 10: got 2,500 Bibles to go. We've seen thousands sent to
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  Speaker 10: So if you're waiting to hear it's the 11th hour,
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  Speaker 10: let me Let me throw this out. It's the 11th hour, folks, right?
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  Speaker 10: It's the fourth quarter, right? We're down to like the
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  Speaker 10: two-minute warning, right? If I can use some sports speak here.
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  Speaker 10: But we're grateful to be at this point, Kevin. I'm
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  Speaker 10: personally thankful that you share our enthusiasm and our burden
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  Speaker 10: to see these Bibles reach these waiting believers. And this
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  Speaker 10: listening family, again, being incredibly generous. I know gas is up.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: Grocery is still costing more and more, right? But again,
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  Speaker 10: somewhere in your budget, you're finding something. a place, a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: way to send Bibles even half a world away. So
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: I'm grateful for that. Again, we're down to the final 2,500.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 10: We're officially done Sunday. We'll tally up whatever God has
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  Speaker 10: done through listeners to that Kevin show. We'll get these
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  Speaker 10: Bibles on their way. As I say, you know, Christmas,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: only 90-something days away, and to think that this year
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  Speaker 10: these waiting believers who have gone without a Bible, some
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  Speaker 10: of these for years, right, will be able to read
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  Speaker 10: for themselves. the precious Christmas story. But Kevin, we're grateful.
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  Speaker 10: We're down to the final 2,500, believing we can get
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  Speaker 10: it done in the coming days.
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  Speaker 4: the end of the campaign. 2,500 Bibles to go. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want us to get to Sunday night and go, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we just missed it by like just a little bit. No,
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  Speaker 4: I want us to get this done so that these
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  Speaker 4: able to do is we can tell ministry leaders that
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  Speaker 4: or 50 Bibles over there, or 1,000 Bibles for this. Michael,
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  Speaker 4: what's the the tent city that is in the Middle
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  Speaker 4: East where they literally have so many people that are there,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: but they needed a thousand Bibles. That's because the gospel
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Kevin, we've shared the stories. I call these
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: people heroes of the faith, right? They're persecuted, often a
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: singled out.
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  Speaker 10: Targeted monitor because they bear the name of Jesus. They
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 10: live remotely. They live in extreme poverty. They're under the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: corruption of governments that fiercely oppose the gospel. But make
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: no mistake what we're asking this listening family to do today.
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  Speaker 10: There is a disturbing trend that's happening there. Persecution is
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  Speaker 10: on the increase, especially among Christian clergy, this is my
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 10: colleague Yazan, and he is in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 8: I met a pastor.
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  Speaker 14: He was kidnapped and threatened to be killed. His freedom
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 14: was as easy as for him not to confess that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 14: he follows Christ.
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  Speaker 8: Of course, he.
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  Speaker 14: Chose not to, and He was abused as a result.
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  Speaker 14: This is what happened through the last six, seven, eight
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  Speaker 14: years in the region.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what's happening. Persecution is on the increase. Christians
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  Speaker 10: are suffering terribly. You know, we're currently serving in Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 10: You know, this tops the list, the World Watch list, right,
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  Speaker 10: that identifies, you know, where is persecution greatest in the world?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: Because of Taliban rule, Christians really have to live out
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  Speaker 10: their faith on the down low, Kevin. Sharia law means what?
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  Speaker 10: When you convert to Christianity, you're labeled an infidel. That
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: can be punishable by death in a country like Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 10: When he became a believer after attending a small Bible
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  Speaker 10: study in his village, his entire family shunned him, turned
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  Speaker 10: him into the authorities.
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  Speaker 6: He's been beaten.
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  Speaker 10: He's been jailed. But Kevin, more than anything, he's awaiting
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  Speaker 10: his very first Bible in the Urdu language. And so
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  Speaker 10: That's why we're doing this kingdom business. Again, I know
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  Speaker 4: for your participation. Hogan Gidley is back with us. Not
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  Speaker 4: only was he part of the first Trump administration, not
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: only was he a seasoned campaign guy for the Trump
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: team in all three of their elections, I go all
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: the way back to this guy when he was working
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  Speaker 4: for a fellow by the name of Governor Huckabee. And
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  Speaker 4: I love the fact that the long fingers of Mike
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  Speaker 4: Huckabee still continue to have great influence in our country.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Hogan, how good of a governor is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Sarah and what she's doing for the state of Arkansas?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just spectacular what she's doing for those people.
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  Speaker 6: No question.
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  Speaker 2: And I've known her since she was 19. So I've
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: been around for quite some time. And I joke with
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Sarah all the time. If you're not good at this,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: having learned at the feet of your father and then
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: working in a White House office with Donald Trump and
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: messaging and communication, then I can't help you.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: But she has taken.
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  Speaker 6: That mantle moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: She's rewritten the script for the state.
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  Speaker 6: And I would argue.
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  Speaker 2: When that stuff starts to trickle out to the national level,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: she's going to be talked about and should be talked
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: about as a potential presidential nominee.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: What she's done on education for the state of Arkansas
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: alone is beyond measure because they were in really bad shape.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: And she's applied nothing but free market strategies to solving
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: the problem and she's getting results. So it's one of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: those things. And in terms of her following in her
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: dad's footsteps, I mean, he was the most popular governor
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: in that state's history and maybe one of the longest
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: serving governors in American history. And he was really kind
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: of Donald Trump before Donald Trump was Donald Trump. Like
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: he was that populist guy that said, maybe we're not
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: supposed to be spending all this money on crazy things
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: overseas all the time. And let's bring American production back
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: So it's just it's really fun to see her excel
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: to the degree that she has. Let's talk about some
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: of the other stuff that's going down in 26. You
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: keep your eye very much to the ground. You're to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: the ground on what's going on. And you've got a
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: lot of weird races. I think some of the major
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: polling races. betting indicators this morning are kind of slightly
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: leaning more left, like in 15 races, I think they
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: either went to toss up or leaned slightly Democrat than
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: they were two or three weeks ago. I can't get
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  Speaker 4: a good read on where we're at in terms of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: the national dialogue. What do you think is impacting 26?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: And how do you think the American people are responding
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  Speaker 4: right now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of it has to do,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, you always blame the messenger, right? Like, why
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: can't we message things better? I think there's, let me
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: set up one difficult thing we're dealing with and then
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: tell you what I think we can do. It'd be
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: like if Joe Biden for four years took $ 100 out
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: of your pocket and Donald Trump has given you back 80.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And the people are like, whoa, but where's my, where's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the 20? Where's the 20 extra? Because you cannot fix
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: four years of epic failure in two years of record
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: setting success. So Donald Trump has changed a lot of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: things and Republicans should be pointing to the differences. Campaigns
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: are about drawing contrasts. Where we were, where we are now,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: and where we can be with Republican governance. But you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: have to remind people what we were able to accomplish
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: in this short amount of time. When you have the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: lowest crime numbers in what, 120 something years? You have
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: the largest drop in prescription drug costs in 60 years.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: The southern border is closed. We are safer as a nation.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: The fraud, the waste and abuse that has been exposed
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: at the federal level, hundreds of billions of dollars so
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: that the American citizens can who need and deserve services,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: can get it to say nothing. Of the largest tax
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: cut in American history, plus no tax on tips, no
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, the massive
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: cash advantage Republicans have, they ought to be able to
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: tell that story in comprehensive but very pointed television advertising
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: to remind people just what's at stake here.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Well, and that's the part that I hope and pray
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: that they're on their game with because... There is no
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: reason why someone who reflects the mindset of the 9-11
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: bombers should be up for Senate in Michigan. And there's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: no reason why the seat that someone just like him
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: is running for in New Jersey should be an automatic
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: win for them. Like there should be a certain level
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: of what about this that they need to be confronted with.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I don't have the greatest confidence, Hogan, to be honest
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: with you, in a lot of our campaign strategies, at
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: least watching them from where I sit. But I'm hopeful
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: that they will get that message out there. What's what
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: needs to happen? Final question. What needs to happen in
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: your mind in Iran before the election versus post the election?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: The president's saying this week he will resume bombing the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: day after the election if necessary and as intense as
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: he needs to. Is there anything he can do before
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: the election that you think would benefit the turnout?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Again, elections, especially midterms, are about contrasts and about turnout.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: Can you get.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: People out to vote for you? And the Iran situation,
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  Speaker 2: of course, is very difficult. Foreign policy is so nuanced
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  Speaker 2: and difficult. Longstanding arguments for centuries in places, and we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to insert ourselves or be part of that communication.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump did that masterfully in the first term, as
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  Speaker 2: you know, rallying people around the common idea that Iran
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  Speaker 2: was the largest sponsor of terrorism around the world. that
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  Speaker 2: they were a threat. And so that's how we got
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  Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords. When everyone said it would fall apart,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't. But this conflict, regardless of how you feel
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  Speaker 2: about it now, if somehow he can end it, fix it,
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  Speaker 2: solve it to some degree before the election, and if
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  Speaker 2: the people in this country view it as a win,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of how we got here, if they view it
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  Speaker 2: as a win, ultimately, is really all that matters from
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  Speaker 2: a popularity standpoint. But I'll tell you, if I'm Iran,
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  Speaker 2: and I've jacked around with this whole negotiating thing the
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  Speaker 2: whole time and I've hemmed and hawed and I have
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  Speaker 2: some people inside who really do want to deal, but
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  Speaker 2: the IRGC is the one that really controls everything. So
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  Speaker 2: they're the ones doing the bombing. If I'm them and
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  Speaker 2: I think I can hold out till after the midterm,
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  Speaker 2: I got news for you. Once the midterm is over
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  Speaker 2: and he doesn't have any political strings to worry about,
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  Speaker 2: he's in essence a lame duck for the next two years.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think's going to happen to Iran? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm Iran, I'm going, hey, I probably should get
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  Speaker 2: a deal before the midterms. Because if the polls are
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  Speaker 2: right and the Democrats take over, Republicans lose, Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 2: going to be.
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  Speaker 6: Like, guess what, Iran? You had your chance.
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  Speaker 8: You blew it.
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  Speaker 2: Now I've got nothing to lose. So here come the missiles.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be terrified if I were Iran.
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  Speaker 4: That's interesting, and it's also well said. Hogan Gidley, always
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  Speaker 4: doing a great job of analysis. Thank you for your
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  Speaker 4: insights and for all your daily good work.
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  Speaker 3: We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, Kevin.
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  Speaker 6: You got it.
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  Speaker 4: Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 4: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
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  Speaker 6: Next.
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  Speaker 8: Serving it up with a no-drink minnow. It's that Kevin
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  Speaker 8: Mac show.
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  Speaker 4: Super glad to have you with us. Welcome back. Kevin McCullough,
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  Speaker 4: final few minutes. And again, thank you to those of
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: I have to come back to this because in the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: first hour I was going to, and then I whiffed.
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  Speaker 4: New York Magazine yesterday released their men's style issue. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm putting quotation marks around everything except New York because
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: New York, I think, is the place where it's still printed.
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  Speaker 4: So New York's right. But magazine is more operated online
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  Speaker 4: than an actual person. But they did shoot a cover shot.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm guessing that that magazine then is still worthy
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  Speaker 4: of being called a magazine. But they released a new issue,
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  Speaker 4: and it was a first for the company, because they
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: decided to feature a biological female, Ellen Page, who has
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  Speaker 4: since switched her first name to Elliot, who appeared topless
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  Speaker 4: on the cover, but as she has had the girth
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  Speaker 4: of her breasts removed, she sort of resembles a guy.
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  Speaker 3: Not really.
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  Speaker 4: She looks like someone who has had her breasts removed and.
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  Speaker 4: whatever that looks like and what she wanted to put
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  Speaker 4: on display. But they're trying to convince you that it
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  Speaker 4: is a man. And she has a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a bicep in one arm. So they're like, look, she's manly.
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  Speaker 4: She has a bicep.
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  Speaker 3: New York Times.
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  Speaker 4: Magazine says, over the years, we've often returned to the
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  Speaker 4: subject of men's style. This is what New York Magazine
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  Speaker 4: thinks covering men's style looks like. Listen to this. There
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: was the 1971 cover story wondering if men would get
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  Speaker 4: into high heels for fall. Because that's what men do.
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  Speaker 4: That's what stylish men do. They wear high heels. In 1996,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: they ran a profile of male supermodels. They're hot. They're rich.
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  Speaker 4: They're openly straight. The magazine wrote, for several seasons starting
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: in 2006, the back half of the women's fashion issue
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: was a mini men's magazine and featured a baby Tom
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  Speaker 4: Brown fresh off his first CFDA award win and metrosexuals
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  Speaker 4: done up in their aughts finery sipping Peronis at Bungalow 8.
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  Speaker 4: So they've never really done like just normal men's fashion.
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  Speaker 4: It's always been kind of this thing. And now they
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: have a biological female on the cover and they're calling
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: it a men's style issue. Now, 20 years later, they
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: say when even 15 year olds are hype about Ralph,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Armani's got a brand new designer and a pair of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: worn chrome hearts. Jeans can go for $ 100, 000. Feels like
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  Speaker 4: the right moment to devote a special issue to men's style.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: The power player shaping the business, the new character shaking
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  Speaker 4: up the scene, the old semi-supermodels who are still around.
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  Speaker 4: We stopped short of announcing another revolution in men's clothes
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  Speaker 4: that you may soon find guys sauntering through the city
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  Speaker 4: in sarongs.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 4: That's men's fashion. The men you know in your life,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: they're wearing sarongs, and the cover features a bare-chested Elliot
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: page trying to make the whole world believe that she is,
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  Speaker 4: in fact, a hee. And even if you look into
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  Speaker 4: her eyes of the photo, she just looks unconvinced to me.
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  Speaker 4: Completely unconvinced. And it breaks my heart, actually. Kevin McCullough,
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  Speaker 4: we'll see you tomorrow.