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Turn In Your Orange (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of two Teas in
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  Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Hey, I'm eric Jane in
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  Speaker 2: case you know, a lot of people don't know who
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  Speaker 2: Erica Jane is, so we really have to introduce ourselves
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  Speaker 2: every freaking pot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it could be someone else I call hosting with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just filling in.
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  Speaker 3: No, tam always makes fun of me because she goes Teddy,
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  Speaker 3: you always introduce yourself on the pod.
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  Speaker 1: What if it's someone the first time, right, they need
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  Speaker 1: to know that it's Teddy Mellencamp.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure you and I have quite distinctive
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  Speaker 3: voices that no one's gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: You know that. When I was in the height of
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  Speaker 1: my trying to hide during all of that Tom shit,
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  Speaker 1: someone said to me, you know I heard that voice.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, get away from it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, our voices are just the gift keeps on giving.
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  Speaker 2: Care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know. How are you, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. I'm good This next like I thank you.
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  Speaker 3: These next weeks, like ten days, are kind of NonStop,
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  Speaker 3: so I have my all in by Teddy Retreat, which
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  Speaker 3: we filmed once on Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, bitch. First of all, I was going over that
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  Speaker 1: in my head, and I remember the customized yoga mets
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  Speaker 1: they so gently dropped off after we ditched your meeting,
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  Speaker 1: and so I remember every moment of it. That was
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  Speaker 1: Sutton's like first group thing, and she cried on the
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  Speaker 1: way there, and.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why did she cry on the way there?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. There's been so many tears with her.
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  Speaker 3: But well, Dury showed up late because.
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  Speaker 1: Of glam yes, but everybody, but it was.
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  Speaker 3: So she missed the workout and then we were all
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  Speaker 3: fighting in the bar, and then yes, we were. It
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  Speaker 3: was like a thirty minute like meditation yoga that actually
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  Speaker 3: was one of the best parts of the retreat.
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  Speaker 1: Which looked beautiful by the way, And then we chose
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  Speaker 1: to stay in the room and be assholes, and then
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  Speaker 1: they dropped off our personalized yoga mets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that were laid out next to me by the way,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt really bad.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, God, damn it, and.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to know what it's like to try
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  Speaker 3: to meditate laying there when the people that you invited
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  Speaker 3: that didn't actually pay to be at the retreat, don't
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  Speaker 3: show up.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone else hold on, And then you have all
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  Speaker 1: of these women and men that did show up, that
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  Speaker 1: did pay, and they're you know, they're looking at these
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  Speaker 1: blank spaces and we look like total bitches.
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  Speaker 3: Well then it's like hold on. From a business aspect,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, now, all of a sudden, this shit doesn't
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  Speaker 3: look full, and it is full.
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  Speaker 1: It was, and.
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  Speaker 3: It was jam back full until my friends couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: their shit together third long time ago.
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  Speaker 1: Quit beating me up over it. You know what. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so over here's to you in the nude like all in.
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  Speaker 3: So, anyways, I have my all Invite Teddy Retreat in
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  Speaker 3: uh Sedona this weekend, and then I go to Nationals
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  Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Which is why me and Erica
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  Speaker 3: will not be recapping OC next week. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: take one week off and then we'll do two episodes
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  Speaker 3: back to back for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: So don't worry, you won't be missing, you won't be
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  Speaker 1: missing our cattiness. Yeah, we just need to postpone because
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  Speaker 1: Teddy has national tunny. You know what, Sometimes Teddy the
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  Speaker 1: horse lady, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what, Sometimes you don't want to half asked something.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe I love that for you, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I know I do. No, I'm not no, I'm not being.
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  Speaker 3: Listen at this point. It takes a lot to mine too.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, it's pretty much pretty damn near and
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  Speaker 1: you know, oh, thank you, you're welcome. Okay, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. By the way, I want to say one
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  Speaker 1: thing just overall about this episode. It was heavily focused
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  Speaker 1: on spouses or boyfriends all of the women's you know, relationships,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, well, shit, we couldn't do that on
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  Speaker 1: our show because we're all single.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have to ask you a shady question.
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  Speaker 3: I start to pick looking at all the guys just
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  Speaker 3: there together, not physically. No, who's the sweetest or there
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  Speaker 3: was the one? I mean, I don't want to say
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  Speaker 3: you'd marriage, so I don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not that Who's somebody that I could tolerate
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  Speaker 1: because that's really where I met at my fifty third
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  Speaker 1: year in this planet, is who I can fucking tolerate
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  Speaker 1: At this moment, I think that Emily's has shame. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he seems very kind, and Eddie seems very kind, and
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  Speaker 1: Katie's has been sat there like a champ until, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, he's and I felt for him because you
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  Speaker 1: know how it is. She's new on the show, She's
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  Speaker 1: used to this, you know, bullshit, you bring that home,
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  Speaker 1: Katie's has been. Matt seemed like a really decent human
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  Speaker 1: being sitting there and taking all of this and not
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  Speaker 1: you know, his face was pretty pretty good. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't whatever he may be feeling on the inside,
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  Speaker 1: it was not showing on the outside. So kudos to
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  Speaker 1: you met correct.
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  Speaker 3: Well. It starts off with Emily, Gina, and Tamra discuss
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  Speaker 3: Emily's fight with Heather and Alexis the night before. Emily
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  Speaker 3: thinks Alexis is a lunatic by.
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  Speaker 1: The way, and was supported by the word lunatic like
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  Speaker 1: everyone agreed, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean the entire world wide web interweb.
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  Speaker 1: But beyond that, the women in scene called her that.
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  Speaker 3: Right, but also not only did the women in scene
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  Speaker 3: call her that, it's common sense that what she was
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  Speaker 3: upset about in regards to Emily made absolutely no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yes, and like we said last week, she was
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  Speaker 1: making it about her.
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  Speaker 3: But Gina says, Alexis claimed things were coming out about Shannon.
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  Speaker 3: Then eight hours later, Shannon is crying on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: Shannon says, what the fuck are you doing? Like it's
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  Speaker 3: all happening. But I think at this point we see Tamra.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly it's Tamra and a camera crew. She's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be calling Shannon. Shannon doesn't answer the phone, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then Shannon butt dials camera and here we are, God damn, Shannon.
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  Speaker 1: Can't catch a fucking break.
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  Speaker 3: Can't fucking catch a break? But also how many times?
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  Speaker 3: And I catch myself doing this sometimes too, where I
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  Speaker 3: get a butt dial and then I'm like, do I
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  Speaker 3: immediately hang up?
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  Speaker 1: Or I do because I don't want to hear it.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I stay listening. Yeah, But then after I stay listening,
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  Speaker 3: then I immediately call that person back and I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, hey, do you realize you called me? Right?
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  Speaker 3: But then the next call was to Heather, which actually
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  Speaker 3: was like.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of interesting, Yeah, I saw that SHO. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm like, let's hope that she actually did call
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  Speaker 3: Shannon back, and we're not seeing that part because clearly
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  Speaker 3: she was calling to check on Shannon. But this leads
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  Speaker 3: me to believe if Alexis was such a lunatic, the
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  Speaker 3: night before and so upset about something. This wasn't something
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  Speaker 3: that we see later in the episode that was accidentally
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  Speaker 3: leaked to the press.
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  Speaker 1: No, there there are no accidents. And you know when
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  Speaker 1: you do file there are people there. I remember when
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  Speaker 1: I filed for separation from Tom. You know, there are
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  Speaker 1: people that are there the courthouse that watch shit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get filed, and they call the press. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily I know that Shannon was saying it was Alexis's
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  Speaker 1: PR team. That's not necessarily true. You don't think so,
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  Speaker 1: But then I don't know before Yeah, fucking know, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what she does. I know.
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  Speaker 3: But if you didn't think things were going to fully
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  Speaker 3: blow up, if you thought it was going to go under.
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  Speaker 1: The radar, nothing goes under the radar when you're on
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  Speaker 1: these reality TV shows. That's something you need to understand.
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  Speaker 1: And this was has been talked about ad nauseum to
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  Speaker 1: borrow from doctor Debroux, which is one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: things to say, and uh, you know, it's not this
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  Speaker 1: shit happens. You know, this should happens whenever you try
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  Speaker 1: to file something. It's never it never goes under the radar.
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  Speaker 3: Right, But if you wanted it to go under the radar.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you just accept the money and sign the non
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  Speaker 3: disparitridgement agreement.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think Emily gave the best advice. If you
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  Speaker 1: were my client, I tell him to take the money,
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  Speaker 1: sign that agreement, and go on about your life and
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  Speaker 1: live happily with Alexis and be done with it. But
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  Speaker 1: that's not what these people want to do.
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  Speaker 3: But I also want to know. And this I'm not
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  Speaker 3: like trying to trap you into answering question. I legitimately
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  Speaker 3: don't understand when they say, you know, when Alexis says
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  Speaker 3: everything has been taken from John, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I did not understand that. What I don't know I
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  Speaker 1: would have. I actually had the same question, what has
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  Speaker 1: been taken from him? Like your reputation, your good name? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of.
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  Speaker 3: If you go on a reality show, nine times.
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  Speaker 1: Out of ten your good name is in the fucking trash. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a.
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  Speaker 3: Carlin Sun was like the American Ballet is gonna judge me? Like, then,
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  Speaker 3: don't come on the fucking traw.
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  Speaker 1: You knew that you signed up what you signed up for,
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  Speaker 1: and you can kiss all of that good name shit. Goodbye.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you're exchanging it for the financial gain,
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  Speaker 3: the business build, all the type of things if you're smart,
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  Speaker 3: if you're savvy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you're just trading it for I'm on a
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  Speaker 1: reality TV show, which doesn't seem or fame yeah, or fame?
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  Speaker 1: Well is it same? Is this fame?
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  Speaker 3: What is the other word for fame when it's.
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  Speaker 1: I have I'm infamous infamous that I'm in, which is
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  Speaker 1: being known for not a good thing, which is like
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  Speaker 1: this is just a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's so different from me because I
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  Speaker 3: am known for all, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's like levels to fame now, it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I think that fame in itself is so different with
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  Speaker 1: like you could be YouTube famous, you could be TikTok famous,
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  Speaker 1: or you could be reality TV show famous, or you
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: could be movie star famous. No.
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  Speaker 3: I mean today I was sitting there with one of
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  Speaker 3: my assistants and we're like going through the schedule and
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: I go, oh my gosh, it's like groundhog Day and
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: she just what does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh God?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, hold on, why, Like one, you've
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  Speaker 3: never seen the movie, and two like it just shows
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  Speaker 3: like there's different.
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  Speaker 1: There's different things that people pay attention and by age. Honey,
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  Speaker 1: wait till you get my age and you see like
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you go, oh yeah, it's just it's frightening.
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  Speaker 3: It's frightening.
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  Speaker 1: It's frightening.
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  Speaker 3: But at this point we see that Shannon is in crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel badly for her. Nobody. You can hear
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  Speaker 1: her crying, and it's bad. And Shannon, if you're listening, like,
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  Speaker 1: I promise you this gets better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I think I just to beat a
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: dead horse for a second. You know, when you're in
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  Speaker 3: a toxic relationship, yes, and if you've been in one
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  Speaker 3: for years, I don't know how you think it's going
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  Speaker 3: to end.
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not. It has to come to some abrupt ending,
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  Speaker 1: which is usually dramatic and final. Yeah, there's nobody thought it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Nobody shakes hands and walks away. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. Nobody's going to shake
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  Speaker 1: hands and say, you know what, this didn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: Toxicity is toxicity, and it usually ends up some big,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: dramatic blow up and that's the end of it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are relationships that can end because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're not in love with each other.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: But this is not what this is. That is like
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  Speaker 1: some dramatic This is far from that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Then we get to Heather and Terry go to
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  Speaker 3: the doctor to get him clearance for her.
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  Speaker 1: She is so over him.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my, So this is my question though, is she
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  Speaker 3: so over him or is she trying to produce him?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think there's such thing as producing doctor
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  Speaker 1: Terry Dubro. He is a big personality. And you know,
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: all plastic surgeons think they're gods, so they have big egos.
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  Speaker 1: And God bless you, Terry. You're a great surgeon.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Heather. Look, she's over there with her husband of many years,
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  Speaker 1: which already is on her nerves, whether she wants to
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  Speaker 1: admit it or not. Now you've got cameras over there
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  Speaker 1: catching this entire situation. Of course, she's worried about Terry.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're blowing it off like, oh yeah, it's okay,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, you still worry about him. She watched
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: him have a mini stroke, she lived through all of
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: that cut her a fucking break. And then she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you something. Anybody that wants
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  Speaker 1: to jump on her for saying to Terry don't admonish
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  Speaker 1: me like that. You know what, You've all been talked
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  Speaker 1: to like that by your spouses or your partners. The
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  Speaker 1: only difference was you weren't on camera. Yeah, like I
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  Speaker 1: that shit happens in relationships. And the only difference is
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  Speaker 1: theirs was on camera.
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  Speaker 3: Theirs was on camera. And but that's what I wonder
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  Speaker 3: as I was watching it, because yes, one million percent
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  Speaker 3: has have situations happen like that with Edwin? I know,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, you know, all of those things happen.
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  Speaker 3: But what's different is now they're showing it on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those things. Normally that would have been cut
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: of course because they're on camera. But now your audio,
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  Speaker 1: anything you say, you know, is up there, and does
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  Speaker 1: it does it please you know? Oh my god, there's
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: trouble in paradise. No, you're witnessing an actual long term
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  Speaker 1: marriage and they're in a stressful situation. They know they're
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  Speaker 1: on camera. Both of them do this for a living.
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  Speaker 1: She felt a certa and way about it. She said it.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: And let's also be clear how often I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: know personally, when I'm having issues in my female relationships,
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  Speaker 3: the person I'm not talking to about it is my husband.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't fucking say a word. Number one, they don't care.
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  Speaker 3: They don't care, they're not and they're not listening.
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  Speaker 1: Women, if you're listening, do not bother telling your boyfriend, husband, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: your significant other, anything about the drama that's going on
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  Speaker 1: with your girlfriends. He doesn't care, and he doesn't he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to care, and.
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  Speaker 3: They always want to give a solution, and sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: It's just to shut you up so they don't have
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  Speaker 1: to hear you bitching.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just saw a meme I send it
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  Speaker 3: to like oh my girls, like my and my mom
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  Speaker 3: group that I've known for ten years, and it's like,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes what you want is the person that will just
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: let you tell the same story over and over again
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  Speaker 3: and not offer any solution and love you anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's how women process their stepped I just need
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  Speaker 1: a uhuh and a yeah yeah, just nod your head
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  Speaker 1: yeah and aha.
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  Speaker 3: I feel that.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I get that, oh yeah, erica, aha, And
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  Speaker 1: I'll just keep.
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  Speaker 3: Or occasionally occasionally I can handle. Maybe you handled that
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  Speaker 3: a little.
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  Speaker 1: I think that too.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not your best mood, not so strong.
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  Speaker 1: How about you don't do that. That's all I need
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  Speaker 1: other than that. Just listen to me. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: care if you're watching TV.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's clearly what's happening. She's telling
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  Speaker 3: a story and then but the problem is they're corroborating
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  Speaker 3: what Terry's saying because he's like, it's been three times
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  Speaker 3: and then they flash to one, two, three. The editors
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  Speaker 3: actually put it out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you knew that was going to happen because.
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  Speaker 3: Of Gina apologizing, Well, it's a process, like Terry said,
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  Speaker 3: it's her process.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Look, we're all, you know, leave all
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  Speaker 1: of these women alone when it comes to their personal
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  Speaker 1: relationships on camera, because everybody gets talked to like this. Yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: in a personal.
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  Speaker 3: Relationship, everybody does it. I feel like it actually felt
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: like a normal marriage spat, but it also felt like.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: An old ass marriage spat like.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: But it also made it feel like they're more grounded.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, good, they're just like us.
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  Speaker 1: Well they are, and the only difference is they're on TV.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so any I didn't I didn't really have
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: a problem with it. I just saw that moment where
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: you saw Terry look at production and he's like, I'm
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: fucking dune. You know like you saw, yeah, which we've
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: heard him do in the past when things get a
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: little tough. But we have to remember, husbands aren't getting paid, well.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: They aren't getting paid. They're over there doing the lord's work,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: helping these women out, appearing on these shows, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what, when they're done, they're done.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Then we get over to Jen tells Ryan she and
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Tama are moving past. I love the foreshadowing, moving past
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: all the trauma from last year and are in a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: better place. She wants Ryan to have a conversation with
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Eddie about what was said on the podcast Two Men Things.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Ryan says Tamar and Eddie made false accusations and told
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: blatant lies about him, so he wanted to speak his
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: truth on the podcast. Ryan agrees to a conversation. Eddie
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: then tells Tamar he wouldn't and then Eddie says, all
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: you have to do is google his name. He's a scumbag.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: But I do have to say this, Ryan, when you're
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: saying these things, maybe don't do it in true religion genes.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know my favorite part was when they
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: went to buy shirts and shit, and then the saleslady's like, hey,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: do you know, because they just bought that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: But during this time we learned that he also.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Cooperated with the government.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Correct, Like we have to remember what we now have seen,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: which I think is going to play out throughout the season.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Should because it's a big scandal. Well it's a big thing,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and the best friend Plague guilty. I just want to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: know if that's receipt of stolen property actually you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: getting the money from show Hayes interpreter and then the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Vegas thing, is that money laundering? I'm asking for anybody
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: with the legal knowledge. And it seems as if the
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: UH casino, some casino executive was disciplined with you know
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: for that. I read those articles, Yeah, I I and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: so that there's something in there. Here's the thing. You
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: can't you can't do that, like you can't can't do
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: any of that stuff that they were doing. And his
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: lawyer says he fully cooperated with the FBI.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: But my question is, if you cooperate with the FBI, it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Depends you rolled you're a rat.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you rolled your rat, But at any point can
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: they come back to get you.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it depends on the deal, you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Those things are kept secret,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and you know somebody would have to answer that with
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: professional knowledge. I don't know. I just don't know.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I also find it interesting that they're shopping for Vegas.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Well, of all the things to be showing. You know, listen,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they're gonna fuck you one way or another. So yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: they got you girl. Then the thing that bothers me
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: is this Jin is not finding out for the first
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: time on camera when camera says, oh, he's talked to
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the FBI. No, okay, because when I'm watching this, she's like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: what FBI?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Because I think at this point you have to remember
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: it hasn't come out to the public the same way
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that even though we've been talking about John Janssen.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: No, I know that. But what I'm asking is why
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: would Jen say what FBI?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Because I think she was hoping it would never come out?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Girl, you should turn in your orange right the fuck now?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Like it's I take a piss and it comes out. Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: No, like you just went over there and I videoed
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: it to release the detabay they paid me. Then we
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: we get to Shannon in her house. She's calling her
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: daughter Adeline, which I have to say is one of
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: my favorite names.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I love it that she says she's not going out
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with anybody, but she did take an invitation from a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: guy who took her to Carbone. Good for you, kiddo,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you know good, good that you know that good, the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: good that you know that you're only going to Carbone
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and up.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: And then Shannon tells her daughter that she offered to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: pay John everything, but he wouldn't sign the non disparagement agreement.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Adeline's like, you know what, Ill, I think that's kind
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: of gross. Yeah, I kind of appreciated the relationship in
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: this moment.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I like it. I mean, look, I'm glad that Adeline
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: is she said NYU or whatever and having a great
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: time and that's a great school, so have fun. And
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you know what, I feel bad. I'm sure Shannon's lonely.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It's just she and Archie in the house.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think, but I think you could
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: be in a house filled with people and still feel lonely.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I have done that too.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think it really depends on the situation
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: and if Shannon I would rather be lonely, I think
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: than in a really toxic situation. So I hope that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I am really happy by myself, and I agree with you.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I'd much rather be by myself than be in a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: toxic situation.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Where you're having to placate someone, Oh.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: My god, or walk on eggshells. That's the big one. Yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the walking on eggshells is a whole other level for me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what I cannot do and stroking somebody's ego, yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: well that is just is exhausting. Then later that day,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Tamar reads an article from People magazine. John Jansen sues
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Shannon Badoor for seventy five thousand. Tarmar says, putting it
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and the press brings it to another level. Is this
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a Dave Quinn article because Dave Quinn is very close
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: with Shannon.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, I don't know, but I don't want
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to drag Dave into it. I mean, it could be
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that Dave had a job to do. It doesn't matter
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: how it gets out. Remember when shit used to be
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: on Radar online?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Well, and we knew who did that. Dave Quinn wrote
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the article.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But also Dave Quinn wrote about Kyle.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Dave Quinn's written about it. I love
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Dave Quinn, but my question is, did Shannon have a
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: heads up? Are you allowed as a press person to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: give the person with the article coming out of heads up?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I was told that my shit was coming that way.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: This is what happens in the law game, and to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: anybody that's listening, it's simply just that you know you're
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: getting sued, and here it is. You're on a TV
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: show for many years, Shannon, and this is kind of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the way things play out. You know, chin up and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: move forward. You can't stop these things, is really what
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I'm getting at. Yeah, you cannot stop it. But yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I think the thing listen, whether it comes out in people,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: whether it's our friend Dave Quinn, this is the shit
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that you're going to deal with. And I think that
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the Housewives universe is very involved in Well, there's a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: no other lawsuit. I mean you look at all of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: our legal quote problems, and you know it's kind of
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, guys, just resolve your ship and keep
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: on going. It'll get okay.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: But it'll get.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, get it'd be getting.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Don't change be worried about it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Don't you worry about it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Now, don't even worried about it. We'll blame someone else
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: for it. But Alexis. I feel like we're not going
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to see much more of her after What what makes
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you say that? Because I don't think she's on the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: cast trip. Well, we knew that, and she's not at
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: this dinner. No, so is our last time seeing Alexis
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: when she was called a wackadoodle and a friend.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Of Well, then you get her for the reunion where
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: she's really gonna come on out.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Well, and she's also been going for it. Did you
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: see that she came for us on the well, I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: mean by us, I mean me.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Look at me, No, I did not. Everybody, like everybody
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: that knows me knows I'm in my own fucking universe.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Well, she came for me on our last.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Girls up, giving her even don't even bring.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Me on our twats post that I've met her in
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: real life, and blah blah blah, and this is this
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: is my thing to Alexis. Yes, in real life you
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: were lovely to me.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: But we're also over here recapping a show in which
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you don't look the best Alexis. So that's also what's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: happening that I can be look I know for a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: fact that I am lovely. I'm a fucking dream off
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the show and sometimes on the show, I look like
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a raging yeah, and that is you know, I am both.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure she's lovely and she's not looking
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the best this year. These things happen, and it's also
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of her making herself look this way. We
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: all have to take you know, you did, you know?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. We've all had bad moments.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Just shake it off.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And regardless if you came on the show before you
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: started dating Johnny Jay or whatever.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it doesn't that still decided to.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Still continue on with it and make it a big
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: portion of what you're talking about.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But we're here now in the present moment commenting on
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this behavior. Who she is as a person is not
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what we're commenting on. We're commenting about the behavior and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the stories that we are seeing today, in this particular episode,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in this particular season. Now, what you did in the past, okay,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: hey whatever, but we're talking about today and today it
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: looks bad.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Today's all. It ain't great.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: No, it ain't great, and it could be better tomorrow,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we just don't know.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But then Katie is deciding to have Tarama Jen
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: and emly.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Bad idea bad idea, bad idea for you, great idea
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: for the show.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And their husband's over. Heather won't be there because she's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: refusing to speak to Katie. I don't I don't care.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: You don't care that she's refusing to speak to her.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Not really, she's got Terry right.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: But also I don't know that Katie spoke once they
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: got there, so.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, she didn't have to the whole shit. Your friend
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Tarmah blew up everybody at that place. And why didn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they come through the front door?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That bothered me, and usually I'm not hip to these things,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: like I don't care whether what kind of entrance, like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what you have on. But I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: did notice that they were all coming through the side.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe they have dogs. Well they do have dogs, because
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: we saw the dogs in the back.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Well, but anyway, whatever, somebody tell me why I loved
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: seeing Kim in the kitchen though, when Tarma was leaving.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Producer Kim, Oh my.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: God, yes, I do know. I do know Kim.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: If you're listening, Hey girl, Hey Kim, Yeah, I know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I met her when I filmed that one thing for
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Orange County.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: We like him.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: She's a good girl. But Gina's also not coming.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Why does Gina pronounce it meat?
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Wool mean because she's from New Jersey?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Is she from Jersey?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: She's from Jersey, okay, or she's from New York, one
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: of the two. But she's got that really like Wool's meat.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: But I was expecting an Italian last name, but I
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: didn't get that. Well, it sounded more scanned in even
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: like Germanish Gershenheider. Yeah, that ain't like my first husband's
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: like that, ain't it. But that's what her husband's last name,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: her ex husband that we met with his.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I wonder what her maiden name is.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Do you know you Italian from Jersey? Are you Italian
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: American from Jersey? Italian American from I feel like.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Gina would be good on Jersey, Like.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, well she didn't. Yeah, I mean she's very much.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: She's got a dinner, but they and that's a compliment,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so don't Yeah, we're not listen. I was married to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a New Yorker the first.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Time Gina's at our place. But I also felt this scene.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You know, Matt and bred are engaged and they're having
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: a commitment ceremony. I don't care thou who protests too much? Though?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: What do to me? I mean, she's saying how great
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: it is for her kids, and she wishes that she
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: could move for Like, the part that's hard for her
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: is that Matt's moving forward. Why she and Travis are
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: falling behind. I have to I have to just be
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit honest, just.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Don't tell us how you really feel.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Tell me later when we're off. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you what, tell me how we really feel later on
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: when we cut their shit off.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I think there's some I do think Gena is a
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: little still in love with her ex. I did kind
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: of wonder because Travis isn't there filming with them.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Right, He's at his house. He's at his house, so
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: if his kids no, and but she did say hold on,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Gina did say that something about Travis's ex won't resolve,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: so they can't go further. Yeah, they can't move forward?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Is that what I'm getting from what she? Yeah?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I mean I think that Travis allegedly has an ex
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: that's caused them a lot of problems, which then causes
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: friction between you know, you know, I mean, because I
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: mean I think it can be exhausting to be a
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: part of that, but I do think no, and not
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: to throw anyone under.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: The bus, but like, but let me do it right now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: But I love to say a butt and then do it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: It was very hard for me and Edwin and Bella's
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: mom and her husband at the beginning. There were years
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: and years of us trying to figure it out. But
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: because there was so much love there and there.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Was something, you wanted it to work. I wanted it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to work. That's the thing is that look, and now
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it is now we're all friends. But that was a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: group effort of wanting it to work out and making
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: it work. These things are so difficult, and you're talking
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: about hurt feelings, like real hurt feelings, and it takes
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: time and everybody has to want to work it out.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I got a little awkward when what's
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: her name, Brett? When Brett was like, I'm thinking of
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: changing my name to Gershenheider or gersh or all of it,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: just no, no thank you, thoughts and prayers. But then
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: every time I'm sorry, I'm today, I don't fucking know
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: and I don't care today. But also it made me
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Sad. I don't know sad, she'll recommit. Look you've got,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, here's the thing, and call me old school,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And that's fine because I'm fifty three and I've earned
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the right to bitch. There should be one party, in
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: my opinion, which is the engagement party, and then let's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: get married and have a great time. When you're talking
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: about commitment ceremonies, I feel like it's a setup for failure.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It's just that's what's on my hand.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not really ready my foot in the pool.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And I've got one foot out like I'm straddling the fence.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It's just like we either are or we aren't. But
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that's my personal opinion, and that's it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Well, I have another personal opinion, and I don't know
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: how you feel about it. I really don't like when
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: people wear tennis elbow braces while filming.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know there off did it bother you?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I I went there?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Like what I was like, are you about to eat
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: so many meatballs that you need your tennis brace?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I saw that too, I I but I'm someone in
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: here here. I get a lot of shit for why
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: do you have on so much makeup? Why is your
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: hair done? Guys? To me, we're on a TV show.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: This lives forever, so I don't want to be remembered
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: by and look as the show has progressed, have I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: allowed myself to like really be seen stripped down with
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: like not allowed to makeup on or looking haggard? Yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: because I was in such a fucked up, bad place.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: But it's a choice. I don't know. I agree. I mean,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you're selling a bit of lifestyle here, and so if
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I unless I'm super tired, maybe she was tired. I
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think you can agree with that.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I can agree. But then everyone arrives at Katie's.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: This is so good, by the way, Ah, so good.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Eddie refuses to hug Ryan, and then why would Ryan
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: want to hug him? Anyway? But this entire I started
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: getting uncomfortable as these entrances start having.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I love it, though, you couldn't you, with your pure
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: experience and knowledge? Didn't you just know where this was going?
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I freaking knew. But it started with the scene of
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Ryan walking in and the skin tight jeans where we
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: could see his dinger.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't look at that. How could you not it
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: was like you ever noticed remember what I said last
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: week that I don't really look at what people where
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I feel their energy like I'm like, well, its tender foe.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Did you like his energy? No? I did not, okay, and.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Not because of anything predetermined. I was just looking at
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: somebody that was really working their set and a lot
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: of you. You know what I'm saying. He's working it, and
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: he's very He went in very clear about what he
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: needed to do, except when Matt asked him, by the way,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: points for me for remembering your husband's name, what he did,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and he could give a brief answer.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Hold on, that answer was so long, even edited, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: like knotted off.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Well, it reeks of deception, whether you like it or not.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: What do you do? I am a lawyer, I am
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: in television. I am a mechanic. He said he flipped houses,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: he was in real estate. It was a whole long thing.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: And then also, I mean, did he ask anything to
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Matt Bottom What.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Does that do?
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: By the way, he does something in golf?
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Oh? Is he a golfer? Dude? Hit me up. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: can hit a fucking ball like no other. By the way, way,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: this one I hadn't picked up a club in over
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a decade. And yes, I was a member of well
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: not I Tom was a member of Wilshire, bel Air
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and Lakeside and then every other place in America, but
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Wilshire was my home course. I can hit a ball
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and you can attest.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: No, she is really good and I am terrible.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I mean after ten years I put a club in
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my hand and even the pro was like, wow, yeah.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Now she nailed it, and she looked cute doing it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And I tried to give you some tips.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: It didn't help. That was our first bonding experience.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: It was really what brought us together.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Tamer tells Emily that Ryan crossed the line like a
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Oh so everybody's calling. So wait, so Ryan called Eddie
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a clown and a soft baby bitch or was it
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: baby bitch or soft or something like that. Here's where,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: just by the way, none of you are hard, yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like I want to let you want Yeah, none of
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you are not one of these men or not not
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: one of you. But I think you don't have to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: call for help. Believe me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I think where we're getting a little bit things are confusing,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: because yes, there's a lot of discussion about what Ryan
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: said on a podcast, which isn't necessarily the worst things
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: or the best things, but it's what Ryan is saying
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: in his confessionals. I think he's implied that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Eddie.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of rumors about Eddie
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: being gay.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think the way that he speaks about that,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: he was trying to double down on that. He says
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that Eddie doesn't have a job.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I just want to know what's wrong with being gay.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he is, but what's wrong? I know
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: some gay men that will whoop your fucking ass.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Way, Well, you don't want to press any gay men
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I know, because they will clean your fucking clock, dude,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't care what you think you're doing.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: But that's it's one thing for a woman to go
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: back and pass history and look up shit.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And so you're saying he's a bitch, Yeah, I am
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: saying he's a fucking bitch. But like, I'm not trolling
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: him right now.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's troll him because that don't worry. Then he'll
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: tag us from his dick picks account because he has
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: a Dick's Picks account.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Does he have a good Dick.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: No, it's just that he.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Has a he sells a hat that says Dick picks.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: The next thing is he also says that Eddie doesn't
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: have a job. And I think that when it takes
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: you forty seven minutes, but.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You cooperated with the government, dude.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: And you can't explain what you do, And like here
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: do I think that Eddie was one hundred percent amazing
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: in this episode.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted any part of it. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: think he felt bad for Eddie from top to bottom
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: because he seems and this is just my take, he
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. He didn't want to get
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: involved in any of it, and he knew where it
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: was going. And you saw that from everything from his
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: voice to his body language, the words he used. He
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: knew it was going to go off the head.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also like you don't need to shit
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: on somebody's job. Like, yes, he closed down cut Fitness,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: it was successful for many years. He actually trairs he
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: trained your you know girlfriend from many many years.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it seems like they like each other,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: like they have a genuine friendship cominity.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: And also I mean it's like Venus CBD. Does well.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Well, they also have which, by the way, send me
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: some more products.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Go, I have tons right here? Really okay, I'll give
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you some. But also like he has a nutrition company,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: like Eddie is a hustler. So I don't that part
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Do.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I think that there's ways that he could have maybe
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: handled the entrance slightly different. But I know if I
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: don't want to do something and I'm being taken in somewhere,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I'm probably an asshole too.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You are, but just from no asked experience, you are.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: But I get it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But Ryan's saying Eddie is a clown baby bitch and
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: not a dude. I feel like that's Ryan saying was
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: like a dig and an insinuation.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I just want to say this so bad. But
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: were you a clown baby bitch when you cooperated? Probably
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: put you made your best friend like plead guilty or
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: what are you? Yeah, dude, I'm so feisty.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Today we continue on Tamra spills her Uh Martini, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: mean I saw that, but I I want to know
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: how long have they been there at this point?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Look, here's the thing. It doesn't matter because the audience
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: only sees what they see you and I both know
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: how long these things go. They don't see it, so
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It only matters to us. The point
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: that you're about to make is not going to work.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: All they know is that Tamra appears to have been
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: overserved and then gets into it with him, and Eddie's
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you know, saying to Matt, don't give her anymore, which
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I get, I understand because he knows how these things go.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Tamra's having a cocktail, Emily's having a few, she had three.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You could tell that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something as somebody who has
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: drank too much and embarrassed themselves and said things that
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: were horrible and fought and did a lot of things
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that were not great in the moment. But it's where
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I was. These things happen on these shows. Camera is
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a long term She's been on TV much longer than
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I have. She knows what she's doing, and she also
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: pulled it out like that. I'm not making excuses for
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: this behavior. I'm not condoning this behavior, but it is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: what it fucking is. Yeah, and we've all been in
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: that situation.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: We've all been in that situation.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: My favorite Dewy Camille you're a stupid yeah. I mean,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: which could be like with the head right, I mean,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: it could be. I mean, you know, we've all done
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: shit that doesn't make sense.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: It doesn't whatever. You're enter pressure cooker, you're drinking for
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a long time. Food is provided, but most of the
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: time you're not necessarily eating.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Bottom line is, I made the choice to drink, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I also made the choice to say the words that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: came out of my mouth. I'm just gonna speak for myself.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And so when I look at these things and I
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: look at other scenes like this, everyone here. As an adult,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you have the choice to pick up the glass or not.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: When you do shit like this happens.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And when you're not on TV and too much, you
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: send a text to your friends the next day and
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: you're like, hey, guys, sorrow's hot mess. Express that text,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: which I call I mean, it depends on how bad
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I was. No, if I.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Will call and be like I'm so sorry, I was
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: so out of line, I truly apologize. And I've had
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to do that because I you know, I've been awful.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I mean I had to walk up to you on
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: camera and like honestly hold your hand and be like, oh,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: my god, last night I was so terrible. I don't
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: even know. No one will tell me what.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm so bad for you. And I saw your face
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: twitching and what I said, Okay, it's okay because it's
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: not I knew that that's not you, that's you under
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: the influence of stuff. And that's also why we became close. Teddy.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's those moments where you it's okay to
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: show weakness, it's okay to have.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: This, it's not is it weakness or is it just
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: fucking humanity? Yeah, these are the things that happen to people.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You're not weak, it's just this is what goes on.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But then tameras Alexis was acting crazy the other night,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Emily says that she and Heather could have had a
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: heart to heart if Alexis wasn't there. Emily gets emotional,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: explaining how it wasn't about the size twelve, it was
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: because Heather didn't understand where she was coming from. And
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: then Tamor thinks Shannon should have just paid John. Emily says,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the problem is that John wouldn't sign the non disparagement clause.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Well, I think more than anything, I think Emily just
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: wants to be heard, but I think it's very hard.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: And I can say this from knowing, from being somebody
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: who I you know, my first wedding dress was a
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: size eighteen and I remember them telling me that and
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the number like honestly shook me. Course that if you've
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: never been in that situation, you don't know how how
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: much it hurt, how much it hurts, and how much
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: those little comments may affect you, And and I think
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody else on OC is in a different situation,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: So I I get it. Like some people are saying, well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: you know that it wasn't this, It wasn't intentional. I
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: don't think it was intentional.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was intentional. But you also when
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you see Emily say I've worked so hard, you know
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: how much weight I've lost. You know that I've been
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: in the gym and that commitment really does show. But
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: it it's it's deep seated, and I feel bad. I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: feel badly, and.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: It's gonna and you know what it sticks with you
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: for it never goes away, goes away. And then Tamar
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: asked Ryan why he shit talked her as a mom
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: and Eddie as a businessman. Ryan says he's validated and
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: what he said based on how they treated him. He
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: says he was a friend to Eddie until he talks
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: shit about him. Tamar denies this. Ryan says that Eddie
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: said that one of Ryan's friends told Eddie to watch
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: out for him because he goes after married women. Eddie
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: says that's exactly what happened. Tamra says everyone knows Ryan
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: likes to f married women, including Jen. Eddie tells Ryan
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: he's not a threat to him. Okay, does it matter
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: that last season Tamra was telling Jen Ryan wasn't a
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: good guy. Do we think this matters at this point?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: No, because I think she was kind of right, whether
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it was about married women or the legal trouble. Well
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: whatever the legal situation that he's involved in, it seems
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to track.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: But do you think that then gives I mean, what
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Ryan's saying is, you know, it gives him the right
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: to go on a podcast.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You can you can't say whatever you want. I've had horrible,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: untrue things said about me for years that damaged not
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: only myself like mentally, emotionally, but also damaged my business.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: That really put me in a place you can do that.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is true, but you want to go
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: around and see everybody for libel, which you know you'll lose.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: But also I think there is something to be said
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: about clickbait, Like you will get clickbait from this podcast.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Somebody will put either mir or you saying something about someone,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: and they're going to put a very small minute thing.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: So unless you listen to the.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Entire thing, there's no context.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no context. So I do think when they
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: are doing the flashbacks of what Ryan's saying on the podcast,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: it doesn't sound that bad.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: It doesn't. It really doesn't.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: It doesn't. And he you know, but what he's saying
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: in his confessional, which everyone is there to see, it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: not a little snippet of a podcast. He's going for it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: He's going for the jugular and he's implying that their
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: relationship is flawed.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Which is interesting because here's the thing. He's got his
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: own heat, if you will, like with this whole the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: betting yeah thing, it's interesting that he chose to do
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: that in the midst of that. Well, I think you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that, Ryan, you know, you're not
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: getting paid to do it. You can just be quiet
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: or not do it or whatever. It's interesting that he
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: chose that route.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: So Jen posted today she gives credit to the podcast
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that she's on, which it's let me be honest, it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: never that positive for anybody. It's not necessarily a podcast
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: that you go on to bring happiness and lightness. But
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: she said, can we please link the podcast from last year.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: This woman for an entire year drug my man's name
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: through the mud. Remember before cameras went up, she never
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: had one problem with Ryan hashtag needed a storyline. She
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: has over a million followers and her own podcast and
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: trash Ryan make this one.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I'm currently on Yah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: One is ish to one, which they could have mentioned
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: in the episode.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It's called to teas in a pod, Two teas in
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a pod, Teddy Millencamp and camera judge. But I'm filling in.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He went on we want number one again. He
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: wants to keep that in there. He went on one
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: podcast and spoke a truth. How ironic that she trash
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: talks people on the regular and if one person says
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: anything back, it's crocodile tears or drunk slurring her words.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Eddie tried to stop her several times and after she
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: stumbled out of Katie's home yelling false statements. The guys
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: had a very civilized conversation. We just had to take
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: the trash out so that this could happen.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I don't like when people call people tra trash. The
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: trash is where I lost she lost me?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else, like, I get.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I get it, prept that. No, well, I get it,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you're upset. I get that when you start calling names.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We had to take the trash out.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: But then I kind of think, like, did Ryan write this?
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: It doesn't really seem like something Jen would say or do,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: And that's what gives me the.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Do you think? So, yeah, is that a possibility? Even yes? Oh,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like it's like you have to do it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Here's d a post like we're on Jeff Lewis, but
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: he wasn't on Jeff Lewis. Jen was on Jeff Lewis.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: He just took a picture of all you dudes trying
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: to get in on the action. That was like PK
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: my first, like darts and PK's first. Ye're like, yo,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: let these chicks fight their own fucking battles. It's about
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it's a show about women. You guys are for once
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in your life fucking not necessary. Hello, and so let
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: these chicks work it out. Let them fight their battles.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You don't need to come in, and you don't. She
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't need help, she doesn't. You know, your wives, your
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: girlfriends can speak for themselves. They are grown women. They're
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: on this show for a reason. Clearly producers Network think
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that they are bright enough or dumb enough to be
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: on the show.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: But Ryan says he never Bashedhamras a mom, but he
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: reposted something telling her to be concerned about her own.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Ryan, Yeah, I saw that that was unnecessary. You're a
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: grown man. It's unnecessary. But who am I like? Yeah,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm yelling at kids.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Too, So what I mean you have yelled at kids?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: But I also can say, you.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Know, I also did. I also did a backflip in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the parking lot, which yeah, I mean, don't talk about
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: bad but.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: But I think also, I mean, we would never post
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: a photo of your son, no, And I appreciate that,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: and I don't think you would either. I think in
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: that moment you thought you were being In that moment,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: I was just part of me was blacked out and
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: part of me was just being like, ohway.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: But it didn't read well, and that's not the point,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you know, But.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: The point is to pull up an old photo, which
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I think that Ryan did intentionally to try to create
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: discussion over one of Tama's children.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Like you know, that's going to get at somebody, of
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: course it does.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to back to even Hong Kong,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: like I Lean didn't even fully mention your son. Oh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I had a breakdown, and you had a breakdown, Like
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: this is what happens. You bring up somebody's kids and
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: if somebody were to bring up mine.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what guys, This is what moms do.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: You know, Like it just you touch that one soft
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: spot and that's what happens. Yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: But then Jen screams at Eddie, questioning why he's allowing this.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Tarmer says it's because.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: She's not listen. Number one, Eddie is not fucking Tamra's keeper.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But also then Tarmer says it's because her husband
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: is in a little bit. Tamar asks Ryan how the
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: FBI is going for him. Eddie tells Tarmar to stop.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Tarmer says Ryan was investigated by the FBI for illegal
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: gambling and Jen knows all about it. This is where
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Jen pipes up FBI and then.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So that that leads me to believe what she doesn't
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: know or she does. I just don't know. I don't
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: know the backstory. I'm asking seriously, does she know or
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: does she not know? Is this the first time? Please
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: tell me this isn't the first time you heard that.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: On Yeah, if it is, we have other issues. But
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: then and Ryan and his confessional, he says, regardless of
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: what little baby clip we saw from that podcas cast
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: or what was said in the podcast, I also know
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: that whenever I get somebody else's opinion on something, like
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: she said, oh I heard from my assistant what was
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: said in the podcast.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I need to see it for myself.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I have to hear the whole thing from myself.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I'm one of those people too, because the way you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: may take it and the way I may read it
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: two different things.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And I may take it more personally than or vice versa.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: But then Tamra, Ryan says, Tamara takes anybody who's happy,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: tries to railroad them because she is miserable. Her marriage
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: is a sham. Eddie is soft. He's unemployed when others
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: are doing well and real love is being shown she
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: can't handle it because it's everything. She doesn't have this
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: a mom. Man, this is where it's too.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I could come back, and I could come back with
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: an absolute fucking list right now of things that I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: could say, you know, and it doesn't matter because it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: not you know whatever, But don't do that, dude, it's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you guys aren't on the show.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: But also like, look, can Tamor be abrasive? And can
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: her delivery be off? And it was especially when when
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: drinking same as mine? But who else is gonna call
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: it the FBI stuff? And that's already happening.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And this was whether you guys like it or not.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And when I say Tamra Judge is good television, I
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: didn't say she was right. I just said that she moved.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: She moved the story and it is coming out and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it ends up coming out, and that's what you all
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: tune in for, and that's what you all are, you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: entertained by, is the fact that she said it. She's
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and there's a lot, you know, whether you
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: like it or not, you're still responding to that.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, yeah, yes, there are moments where
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: like as Tamra's friend, where I'm like, fuck her walking.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Out, Well, have the stumble bumble, it's all.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: And I felt the same way when I watched You.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I had to come to the house and was like,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, you have
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to stop. So, look, we don't have the best time
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: on here. This is part of Yeah, it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Can be the best of times, but it can also
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: be the worst of time.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: More likely than not, you're going to have a bit
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: of trouble.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: And if you think, if you're somebody that's watching these
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: shows and you think that sometimes you don't need a
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: touch of liquid courage.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: To fucking blow it out, and also like go up,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: bring up uncomfortable things. It's necessarily you guys are enjoying
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and watching things that necessarily would not happen in a
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: civilized group conversation.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the same way that in real life.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever called somebody a villain, but
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: on the show, when you're watching the show, she's a villain.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: She's that Like how often have you been like, oh,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: I'm so mad at Teddy, She's a villain?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Never? Yeah, you just don't ted what are you doing?
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Teddy, what the fuck?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: But you're also watching a modern stew day soap opera.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing because it's a hybrid. It's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: like a soap opera but based on your real life.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: So you're watching people in an unnatural circumstance, i e. Cameras,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: shit like that, and then you're basing it on what's
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: really happening in their lives. Like Ryan cooperating with the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: FBI is a fact. Camera being overserved at this party
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is a fact. You know Emily how she feels about you. Know.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: So there's all of these things that are true, and
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: then you're living under this like it's very strange. And
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the only people I think who really understand are the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: women that have been there, not producers, not viewers, not
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: friends of When you've been a cast member and the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: longer you've been a cast member, we can only talk
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: to each other about certain things. It doesn't matter what
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the audience sees, it doesn't matter how they feel. You
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: and I both know things and can pick up on
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: things that no one else can.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, and.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not using anybody's behavior because you have to come
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: forth and own your own behavior and say, yeah, I
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: was bad. I was drunk, I did the wrong thing.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: This was not my best moment.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: And also there are moments where every single one of
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: us that have been on these shows are hypocrites.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, beyond beyond.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: But I also want to think, for you guys listening
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: to this podcast right now, how often are you in
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: a group text with your friends and you say something
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: shitty about somebody else that you know?
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Not only that, like what we were talking about, well
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: about Heather and Terry early in the show, is like
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: that happens, and so does being a hypocrite in life
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and being judgy and not looking your best. All of
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: these things happen.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: And then also you have wonderful moments. We can be
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: a great parent, or you're having a wonderful time, or
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: you have this great trip, or this may happen. This
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: is fucking life. And if you're wanting to watch a show,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: it's good, the bad, and the ugly. And I think
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: that's what oc is giving us.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I kind of I really enjoyed doing this with you.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: By the way, we won't be here next week, but
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: we will. Don't worry. We will recap both episodes the
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: following week and we're both gonna be on little.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Trips, So we're going on trips. Babes, Bye bye, guys.