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Football at Four: Explaining Further Eagles Decision to Keep Four QBs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Heard from Eagles general manager, Howie Roseman on their 53
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: man roster, which is quote unquote set. But Jeff Mosher
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: is here to tell us who stays and who still
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  Speaker 1: may go. You know, you get the call motion said
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  Speaker 1: you have made the 53, but now it's 13 days
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  Speaker 1: of hell for some of these guys. And, uh, we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about who could possibly still be waiting, uh, to
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  Speaker 1: get that knock on the door. The big theme was
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: the four quarterbacks motion. Let's, uh, kind of dive in
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  Speaker 1: you just heard what Howie Roseman had to say about
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  Speaker 1: that does that kind of tell you that they will
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  Speaker 1: enter the year with four quarterbacks are they looking to
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  Speaker 1: move one of these guys what do you think of
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  Speaker 1: that quarterback room after the cut down.
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  Speaker 2: Day yeah you know you heard Howie Roseman say that
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's a position you can keep bodies at
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  Speaker 2: because of the value of the position but guess what
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles the Eagles are one of what four or
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  Speaker 2: five teams that kept Poor quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a buyer's market for anybody looking for a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: So exactly what kind of value you're going to get
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  Speaker 2: in return for Andy Dalton. I don't think they're going
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  Speaker 2: to take Trey Tanner McKee. He's their QB2 at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's more value in holding on to him.
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  Speaker 2: And if he has to play and performs decently for
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  Speaker 2: you this year, then he becomes an attractive commodity on
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  Speaker 2: the free end. that would get you a comp pick
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  Speaker 2: if he became a free agent and signed a good deal.
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  Speaker 2: So at this point, you know, are they going to
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  Speaker 2: go through a four? Howie's certainly calling a lot of
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  Speaker 2: bluffs and we'll see. It's to me, and I get it. I'm,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he knows what he's doing, but you're, you
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  Speaker 2: don't play you. Here's how it works in practice. Mike,
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  Speaker 2: your starter, Mike, most starters, right? Gets all the reps
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  Speaker 2: in practice. There are some backups who get reps in
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  Speaker 2: practice because like wide receivers, you're, you're in on sub
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  Speaker 2: packages and, The pass rushers are in on sub packages,
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  Speaker 2: even if they don't start, but mostly your quarterback is
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  Speaker 2: getting all the first team reps. So your backup, let's
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  Speaker 2: say with McKee here, he may not get any during the,
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  Speaker 2: during the week.
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  Speaker 3: So he might get a smattering at most.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't, you know, if Andy Dalton's running the
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  Speaker 2: scout team, what are you doing with Cole Payton? You
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  Speaker 2: have to really develop him behind the scenes and extra,
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  Speaker 2: extra practice sessions, maybe before games.
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  Speaker 3: It's, it's a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: So, Do I think that they let go of some
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  Speaker 2: good players who can help them now just for the
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  Speaker 2: sake of hanging on to four quarterbacks? Yes, I do
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  Speaker 2: think they did that. Is he going to go bite
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  Speaker 2: them in the ass in the end? Well, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: So you mentioned Tanner McKee.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't reveal who the backup quarterback would
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  Speaker 1: be here, but if Jalen hurts, God forbid, missed a
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  Speaker 1: game or two, which guy do you think would get
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  Speaker 1: those starts?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's McKee.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I know Andy Dalton completed like eight straight passes.
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  Speaker 2: I was there against the Bengals, and he's certainly looked
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  Speaker 2: a little bit sharper than he has.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a 39-year-old quarterback who.
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  Speaker 2: Got rid of– the Panthers got rid of so that
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  Speaker 2: they could add Kenny Pickett to bring this thing full circle, right,
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  Speaker 2: as their backup. McKee, to me, still has more potential
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  Speaker 2: higher upside. I'm not one of these people who has
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  Speaker 2: ever– I don't think I've ever said if you trade him,
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  Speaker 2: you're getting a first round pick and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a starter in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: I never believed that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've always been impressed by him, but, and
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  Speaker 2: I've always thought that you could get something for him
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  Speaker 2: in a trade, but you know, I still think he
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  Speaker 2: carries more upside, obviously than what Andy Dalton could give you.
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  Speaker 3: Not just future upside. I mean, if he had to
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  Speaker 3: play this year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would ask the question, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: the biggest McKee guy in the world. I think quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: if I had to play and try to win a
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  Speaker 1: game or two, I take my chances with the veteran.
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  Speaker 1: to play safe and that he just steals a game
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  Speaker 1: rather than what I've seen from McKee in the games
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  Speaker 1: that he has played in. My question, I guess, would
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  Speaker 1: be what would be acceptable value? Like you just saw
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  Speaker 1: Quinn Ewers get traded. You saw Kyle McCord. Are they
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  Speaker 1: looking for more, I guess, than like a fifth or
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  Speaker 1: sixth round pick if they were to trade McKee?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they shouldn't be. Oh, for McKee. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to ask me Dalton.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's a great question. I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: that they've dangled him that hard on the trade market.
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  Speaker 3: You do have to remember one thing. It's really about
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  Speaker 3: keeping Cole Payton more than the other two guys, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because Howie is a strong believer, and I agree with
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  Speaker 2: him on this, that you really need to have a
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  Speaker 2: veteran quarterback on your roster, right? If you remember last
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  Speaker 2: year when Tanner McKee, who was the backup, the number two,
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  Speaker 2: got hurt, he fractured his thumb in camp, the number
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  Speaker 2: three at the time was Kyle McCord, a rookie. He
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  Speaker 2: automatically became your number two. And Howie thought to himself,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way that Kyle McCord is going to be
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  Speaker 2: my number two in training camp, let alone regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So he went out and got Sam Howell. And guess what?
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  Speaker 3: People forget this. Sam Howell was on the.
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  Speaker 2: Team the entire year last year, even though McKee was
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  Speaker 2: number two, taking up a roster spot.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's not about, do you have to get
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  Speaker 2: rid of McKee? Do you have to get rid of Dalton?
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  Speaker 2: Do I think they would trade Dalton if they got
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  Speaker 2: something for him? Yes, and then try to bring a
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  Speaker 2: veteran onto the practice squad. But it's really about Cole Payton,
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  Speaker 2: who's occupying a roster spot, who barely got any reps
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  Speaker 2: at all during the preseason, who has a ton of
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  Speaker 2: mechanical flaws that need to be fixed. And Mike, it's
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  Speaker 2: a guy who other teams, when I spoke to other
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  Speaker 2: teams about him, told me that they didn't even think
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  Speaker 2: he was an NFL quarterback. They wanted to see him
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  Speaker 2: do other drills at his pro day, which he declined
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  Speaker 2: to do, and that's his right. But if you saw,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the Bengals preseason game,
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  Speaker 2: and for your sake, I hope you didn't, but they
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  Speaker 2: actually put him in the game as the personal punt
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  Speaker 2: protector on special teams before he even got in in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Quarter to play quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're carrying him because you do have a
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  Speaker 2: plan for him to be like, some kind of special
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  Speaker 2: teams or fullback or the quote unquote, taste some Hill
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  Speaker 2: roll that we constantly hear at.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I get it a little bit, but that's the real
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  Speaker 2: discussion here is you're keeping four quarterbacks and one of
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  Speaker 2: them might be three years away from being two years away.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Jeff Mosher football at four wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: They did keep six guys. Was there a surprise that
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  Speaker 1: they kept an extra guy there?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny you say surprise because Adam and I did
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  Speaker 2: our 53-man roster projection podcast on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it came out Saturday, Friday or Saturday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 2: And I kept Elijah more on mine than six receivers.
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  Speaker 3: And after I was done with the pod– I called
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  Speaker 3: myself an idiot. I said, I don't know what I'm thinking.
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  Speaker 3: Adam was right.
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  Speaker 2: That was stupid. He's going to have no role in
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  Speaker 2: the team. And lo and behold, he made the team.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess it's a little bit of a blind
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  Speaker 2: squirrel and nut thing there. You know, if their plan
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  Speaker 2: is for him to return punts, which I don't believe
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  Speaker 2: he's done a lot of in the NFL, then I
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  Speaker 2: suppose it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise, Adam's right. He's really not going to play a
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  Speaker 3: whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: So you do kind of wonder why he is also
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  Speaker 2: occupying a roster spot. I mean, he's, he's returned 23
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  Speaker 2: punts in his career.
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  Speaker 3: Is that correct? Do I have that? No, no, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Two punts in his career with the Browns in 2023.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: So, but maybe they think that they can get something
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  Speaker 2: out of them. Maybe it's the idea that he's a
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  Speaker 2: second round pick a high one and that they think
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  Speaker 2: that there's some development there. And the fact that Devante
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  Speaker 2: Smith gets beat up quite a bit and Makai Lemon
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  Speaker 2: has only practiced a little bit. Maybe they're, thinking ahead, saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, we have six, but week two, week three,
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  Speaker 2: we could be worried about not having enough receivers, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why we wanted to keep him because he might
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  Speaker 2: have gotten clean because he is a high second-round pick
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  Speaker 2: who had a good camp.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what went.
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  Speaker 2: Into it, but, you know, it used to be the
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  Speaker 2: running back, the fourth running back, Mike, that they would
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  Speaker 2: keep and the guy would collect dust, and now I
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  Speaker 2: fear that it might be Elijah Moore just sitting there
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  Speaker 2: collecting dust all season long.
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  Speaker 1: What's your takeaway on the tight ends? They kept four there.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously Stowers not being ready. I guess kind of does
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  Speaker 1: that play into this? He was asked about Ertz today.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts on the tight end, four of them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Grant Calcaterra being on injured reserve paved
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  Speaker 2: the way for EJ Jenkins to make it.
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  Speaker 3: And it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: To say that because their skill sets are totally different, right?
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  Speaker 2: But I think if Calcaterra's healthy– He's the pass-catching tight
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  Speaker 2: end you want out there that you're not getting currently
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  Speaker 2: in Eli Stowers, who we'll see if he's even active.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a long way to go to really climb
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  Speaker 2: up that depth chart. But Calcaterra's not healthy. Stowers isn't ready.
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  Speaker 2: They need somebody who they've been developing. So he's on
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  Speaker 2: the roster for now. They didn't claim anybody.
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  Speaker 3: If there was a guy that I.
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  Speaker 2: Thought that might get replaced in the next 24 to 48,
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  Speaker 2: because the Eagles got a veteran, you heard obviously how
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  Speaker 2: he was asked today about Zach Ertz, but there's other
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  Speaker 2: veterans out there as well. That would be the guy
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  Speaker 2: that I would think might not, he may not want
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  Speaker 2: to be like having the, I made the 53 man
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  Speaker 2: roster party just yet.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I guess on the offensive side of the ball, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you got, as we mentioned, you know, some people asked
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  Speaker 1: about Carson Steele. I don't know where you find a
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  Speaker 1: role for a fourth running back on this team. Although,
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  Speaker 1: if you're just going off of, hey, this guy's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because I'm looking at what they did offensively. The only
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  Speaker 1: thing they did offensively the entire preseason was throw him
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  Speaker 1: the ball, it seemed like. So you almost feel like, well,
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  Speaker 1: can they utilize him in that way? I guess that
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  Speaker 1: would be Shipley. Or do you see the running back
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  Speaker 1: in this offense being utilized like they used Steele the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks?
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  Speaker 3: So here's what I've seen. We've talked about this. on
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Into the Birds.
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  Speaker 2: I encourage people to listen to our– and even the
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  Speaker 2: upcoming ones where we really talk about what the team
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: still needs to do and accomplish, right?
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  Speaker 3: Adam and I have.
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  Speaker 2: Talked for quite a while that for years we've seen
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  Speaker 2: a lot of throws to the running back in training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Going back to like Darren Sproles and DeAndre Swift– But
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  Speaker 2: more so recently, you know, DeAndre never really became a
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  Speaker 2: big part of the passing game here, despite the endless
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  Speaker 2: throws that we would see to him in camp. So
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  Speaker 2: we just decided, listen, until it happens, we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to sit there and tell listeners to expect this. But
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  Speaker 2: if there's one thing that I observed, Mike, that might
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  Speaker 2: give you the optimism that there's more opportunities for it,
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  Speaker 2: is that the diversity of running back routes that I've
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  Speaker 2: seen This summer in practice, meaning not just catching passes
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  Speaker 2: in the flat, but running things like angle routes.
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  Speaker 3: And Texas routes, wheel routes.
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  Speaker 2: There was a touchdown to Saquon Barkley in the open
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  Speaker 2: practice that looked like a wheel that turned into a corner.
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  Speaker 2: So clearly, if this carries over into the regular season
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  Speaker 2: in terms of being in the playbook, there will be
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  Speaker 2: opportunities to get the running backs involved in the passing
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  Speaker 2: game in a way that it has not been designed
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  Speaker 2: in the past now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whether or not that becomes something Jalen Hurts does more
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  Speaker 2: because it's in the playbook remains to be seen. He's
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  Speaker 2: not a guy who loves to check the ball down.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to drive it deep. We all know that's
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  Speaker 2: his strength. And sometimes on those short-timed intermediary routes, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's a slot receiver or a tight end or, in
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  Speaker 2: this case, a running back, it's not always been– the
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  Speaker 2: area that he's really like excelled at as far as
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  Speaker 2: hitting that quickly and seeing it quickly.
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  Speaker 3: So it's hard to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, I can't tell you if it, I know it,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the opportunity will be there, but until
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  Speaker 2: we see.
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  Speaker 1: It, I was going to say, is this just because
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  Speaker 1: that steel skillset or is that the way they're going
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  Speaker 1: to use?
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I, I, those routes I was telling you, I've
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  Speaker 2: seen run by Saquon. I've seen run by Will Shipley.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that that is, that's a part of
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  Speaker 2: the preseason playbook and the summer camp training camp book
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  Speaker 2: that they've tried to add.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, people look at Steele and
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  Speaker 1: kind of envision him as this smaller little scat-back kind
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  Speaker 1: of guy, but he's a big guy. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: like 6'1, 230.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying he's a big, you know, some
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  Speaker 1: people were asking me could they use him as a
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  Speaker 1: fullback because the fullback gets used in some of these
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  Speaker 1: offenses that Mannion, you know, is implementing here, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem that there's a fullback in this offense.
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  Speaker 3: No, there does not.
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  Speaker 2: But, I mean, you know, even moving away from Carson Steele,
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  Speaker 2: who's probably not going to see the light of day,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Will Shipley is a guy who I think
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  Speaker 2: has put on some muscle.
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  Speaker 3: He looks stronger. He showed his juice in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: So if we're going to talk about a running back
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  Speaker 2: used in that capacity, to me it's not about Carson Steele.
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  Speaker 3: It's about Will Shipley.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Shipley, obviously, because Shipley has had– very, very,
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  Speaker 1: very little role since he has been here. So you're
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  Speaker 1: thinking if he has a little role and you kept
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  Speaker 1: a fourth guy, that guy has no role.
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  Speaker 4: So that is where I see Shipley.
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  Speaker 3: But hey, you know, A.J. Dillon and Rashad Penny made
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  Speaker 3: a season off of that. So, I mean, it's been
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  Speaker 3: done before.
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  Speaker 1: They did bring back Damian Pierce to the practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: I have not seen Steele. Is he on the practice squad?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there too.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so both of them are back now.
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  Speaker 1: It's all Pierce earlier this afternoon, I guess the list
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  Speaker 1: of everybody, who are Bernard and Joshua Rue are both
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  Speaker 1: back on the practice squad now.
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  Speaker 3: Correct. According to what they released. Yes, they are.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because because I guess that was people were up in
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  Speaker 1: arms at how they didn't make the team and that
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  Speaker 1: they both got through waivers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's hard. These are the
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  Speaker 3: ones that are hardest project because.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people, including ourselves, who drew a straight
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  Speaker 2: line between, hey, they knew that Jordan Mailata was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years away from really doing anything and kept him.
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  Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they do.
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  Speaker 2: The same with a guy that they drafted in UR
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  Speaker 2: Bernard or a guy who showed promise and potential in
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  Speaker 2: Josh Waru? I thought Howie made an interesting comment in
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  Speaker 2: the press conference saying that, you know, at least Mailata
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  Speaker 2: had played organized sports before.
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  Speaker 3: So he had.
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  Speaker 2: somewhat of an understanding of what it takes to be
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  Speaker 2: a teammate, a professional, how to learn a playbook, whatever
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  Speaker 2: rugby entails in terms of playbook, but how to play together.
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  Speaker 2: Like there was some kind of foundation of playing a sport.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas with who are Bernard and, and Josh Varou, there
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  Speaker 2: was not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I thought that Roseman's answer today about my lot,
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  Speaker 1: I guess someone like, well, what did you see from us?
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think that will ever happen again
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  Speaker 1: in a lifetime. A guy who has never played before
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  Speaker 1: will turn out. So don't compare these guys' story to
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  Speaker 1: his story.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he missed the mark, though.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he was asked– I don't think the
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  Speaker 2: question was asked about why he was willing to risk
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  Speaker 2: it this time around.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Because the questioner thought that those two guys could be
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: elite at their position the way Maialata is. I think
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: they were just saying what was the difference– Because there's
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: no way how he knew back.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: That year, I can't remember, was it 2016 now, 17? 16,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: 16, that Jordan Maialata was going to even be a
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: competent left tackle as opposed to an elite one.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: So why would he, what was the thinking this time?
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: And honestly, every year is different. You have different roster decisions.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: You have different depth.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they were blessed with great
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: offensive tackle depth in 2016.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: The way now they've got two elites.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: And they drafted a guy in the first round that year.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Who is that?
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Andre Dillon.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, Dillard.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Dillard, sorry.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: In this case, you've got to decide on a defensive
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: tackle when you already have four of, like, the top
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: 30 in the game. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: you've already got three edges. You're probably right among the top.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: 15 in the game.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: No Gabe Hall on the team.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Gabe Hall didn't make it. He's on the
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: practice squad, though.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Practice squad.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Any other?
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I don't think there was a big surprise. Did you have, like,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: a woe? No, no, no.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I was surprised even though I
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: picked it about Elijah Moore making the team. EJ Jenkins
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: made sense when you rationalize that after with Calcaterra being
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: hurt and what they need at that position.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: And again, I don't know that it's going to stick.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I thought Kapena Gushikian looked like a really good special
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: teams player. And usually those are the kind of guys
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: who can make it onto a 53. And lo and behold,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: he got claimed today by the Colts.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I think it was. So you could tell how he was.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's a feather in his cap
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: that he's built a roster so deep that he had
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: four guys get claimed by different teams, you know, but
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you could tell that he didn't, he didn't really love
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: losing those guys either.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: There you go. How he spoke, Jeff wraps it up.
• 17:15
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• 17:18
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• 17:21
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• 17:25
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• 17:29
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• 17:30
  Speaker 4: All right, brother, good to talk to you.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: All right, Mike, have a great one.