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Evil is the Only Explanation · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Who who's that?
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  Speaker 2: You know, the material, what's the material? That's faan of
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  Speaker 2: the opera, music of the Night, Sad Night.
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  Speaker 1: But who's singing that? Who's that one? That's normally the
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  Speaker 1: phantom sings correct?
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  Speaker 2: Correct, pretty sweet voice on this young lady. Huh, that
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  Speaker 2: is Jackie. It's Jackie. I don't know. It's Jackie Ivanko.
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  Speaker 2: She is twenty six today. She was big on America's
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  Speaker 2: Got Talent when she was like eleven and recorded that
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  Speaker 2: when she was twelve, Oh wow, twelve, and she is.
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  Speaker 2: She's a grizzled veteran of the business of twenty six today.
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  Speaker 2: So I stumbled across the video of her, and we
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  Speaker 2: talk about the great voices of our time, the Josh Grobins,
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  Speaker 2: among the men, the barbar Streisand's, the Kelly Clarksons, but
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  Speaker 2: Jackie Ivanko.
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  Speaker 1: They came up with an interactive than of the opera
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  Speaker 1: last year, and I didn't see it on Broadway. There
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  Speaker 1: was you walked through, Yeah, you went from room to
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  Speaker 1: room and they did the scenes with people and the
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  Speaker 1: only thing that scared me off was they wanted you
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  Speaker 1: to like dress up for it. They wanted you to
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  Speaker 1: wear like a mask, and all that crap. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Please, don't you want to pay the show? No?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right. If I'm gonna be if I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be decked out, I'm gonna be earning money on stage
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  Speaker 2: as a as a part of the camp.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna makebe go on a costume and all that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's It's like the rule about my license plate.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: I have this rule about car dealers and the license plates.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever notice how they love to put the
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  Speaker 1: name of the dealership on the on the license Absolutely
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  Speaker 1: well pay well, they should pay you for that advertising.
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  Speaker 1: You're driving around giving them mobile advertising, so they should
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  Speaker 1: there should be an advertising fee. I take that thing
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  Speaker 1: off when I get a new car. First thing I
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  Speaker 1: take off is the license plate bracket, Like, so do you?
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  Speaker 2: So do you? Because you then do become a rolling advertisement.
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  Speaker 2: I've got one that has it, one that doesn't. It
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  Speaker 2: just never occurred to me to take it off.
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  Speaker 1: I don't you When do you have a license plate
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  Speaker 1: bracket with the car dealer on it?
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  Speaker 2: It came with it. I don't care. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: to game off.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you?
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  Speaker 2: Way, yeah, and replace it with what it kind of
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  Speaker 2: frames it. It looks kind of nice. I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I am a favorite. Looks nice, I mean better than
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  Speaker 2: just the big old.
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  Speaker 1: Dodge on the back of the car. Yeah, looks that's
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  Speaker 1: a good look, big old dodge.
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  Speaker 2: Some people, I tell you what I you know what
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  Speaker 2: I should do. I have one that I got when
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  Speaker 2: we saw Tom Petty for the last time. It's a
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  Speaker 2: Tom Petty fortieth anniversary one. And you can get them
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  Speaker 2: for sports teams. You can get some that are personalized
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  Speaker 2: and you know, some man, maybe I.
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  Speaker 1: Shouldn't stop stop time it, but there's a Tom Petty
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  Speaker 1: fortieth Anniversary Tour license played bracket.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was twenty it was twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: And you put that on your car?
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  Speaker 2: Well you can, I mean right now, it's sitting in
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  Speaker 2: my office. It's up of the wall.
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  Speaker 1: You never put it on your Tell me you didn't
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  Speaker 1: put on the car.
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  Speaker 2: I did not, But would you would that be okay?
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  Speaker 2: If I can I put anything around my license plate
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  Speaker 2: on the car? What's approved for Mike to be on
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  Speaker 2: a license plate around the car?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's always intrigued by people who put anything on
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  Speaker 1: their car, like bumper stickers, and it's like what mumper,
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  Speaker 1: what message are you trying? I mean now, in Florida,
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  Speaker 1: like they have personalized plates and I do like they
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  Speaker 1: have it in God we Trust plate and I like
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  Speaker 1: and I have that on my on my on my
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  Speaker 1: Florida car, like in God we trust on the actual
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  Speaker 1: on the actual plate. Right, Yeah, it's the actual plate itself.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the bracket. It's the design of the license.
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  Speaker 2: And you can choose because many states have this. You
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  Speaker 2: can this way. I get Texas if you're if you're
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  Speaker 2: an LSU alumnus, you can have an LSU plate in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Texas or any of the Texas universities
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  Speaker 2: or anything else, or various personalized messages and such, and
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  Speaker 2: you chose that one great choice by ways.
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  Speaker 1: Like that if you get your school round. There's something
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  Speaker 1: about a bracket or there, or or bumper stickers that
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  Speaker 1: just I don't know. I always look at these butts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the parent of five kids, and they've got little
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  Speaker 1: designs of children and all that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's I can't remember this. And I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 2: Dennis is still around where we could ask him, and
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  Speaker 2: God bless him, and he continues to be a force
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  Speaker 2: in our lives. Dennis had a thing and I think
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  Speaker 2: I asked him about I asked him about this about
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  Speaker 2: bumper stickers, all right, And there was one in particular,
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  Speaker 2: I'll look for this that he found some fault with
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  Speaker 2: and I couldn't figure it out. First of all, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not a bumper sticker person. You're you seem not to
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  Speaker 2: be a bumper sticker person, right, definitely not. Now I
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  Speaker 2: know you've got and when you're talking about the kids,
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  Speaker 2: like the mom, the dad and three kids like where
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like stick figures up on the back.
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  Speaker 2: That's huge. That's all right, okay. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the one that Dennis thought was, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: all right, my child is an honor student at Joe
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  Speaker 2: Blow Middle School.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen this.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, don't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it seems a little braggadocious.
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  Speaker 2: Which sure, I mean where most kids are brain dead.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got kids that are actually navigating school with
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  Speaker 2: some level of skill, hooray, hooray. My kid's a pothead.
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  Speaker 2: My kids stab somebody in the stairwell at Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, if there's a bumper sticker, i'd bring back.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a very serious somber awful story that
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  Speaker 1: I want to share with you. I'm sure you've heard
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  Speaker 1: about it right now, but it's a it's a horrifying
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  Speaker 1: story of a case of a FedEx driver in Paradise, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Who yep. And if I brought back a bumper sticker
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  Speaker 1: would be it would be bring back public execution yep.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what when you read about and
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  Speaker 1: hear about this case. Guy's a FedEx driver and was
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  Speaker 1: delivering a Christmas present to this little seven year old
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  Speaker 1: athena strand and he winds up he pled guilty, He
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  Speaker 1: wound up strangling. Hurry tried it. By the way, sorry
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  Speaker 1: for being graphic here, but you might as well know
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  Speaker 1: the full extent of this. He tried to break her
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  Speaker 1: neck first, that didn't work, so then he strangled her
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  Speaker 1: to death. Prosecutors said there's been DNA found on her
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  Speaker 1: that suggests she was sexually molested. And there's a haunting
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  Speaker 1: picture because the FedEx truck has a surveillance camera in it,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a picture of him driving her to her
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  Speaker 1: murder and she is like kneeling between the two seats
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  Speaker 1: behind him with this look of total confusion and despair
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  Speaker 1: on her face, this beautiful little seven year old girl.
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  Speaker 1: And you know it's funny. I go down and he's
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  Speaker 1: pled guilty in there, and now there's apparently they're playing
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  Speaker 1: an audio.
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  Speaker 2: The trial is underway right now, and he's trying to
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  Speaker 2: avoid the death pedally because he's autistic. God bless everybody's autistic,
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  Speaker 2: but new autism.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good legal defense. He planned this whole thing out.
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  Speaker 1: They said, it's one of the most horrifying crimes I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen. And the video and audio evidence is just
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  Speaker 1: so appalling. Apparently he covered up the camera when he
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  Speaker 1: murdered her because he murdered her apparently in the truck,
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  Speaker 1: but they he didn't block out the audio. There's audio
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  Speaker 1: of him and and the prosecutor said to the jury,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you're about to hear audio of a
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound man snuffing the life out
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  Speaker 1: of a sixty seven pound seven year olds.
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  Speaker 2: Well they should, that's what you're in the trial.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you're doing a trial. But look, if this
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  Speaker 1: if this case doesn't deserve the death penalty, nothing, no
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  Speaker 1: case does. Know and guess what, you know we ought
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  Speaker 1: to do. We ought to do these publicly, put them,
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  Speaker 1: put them in public execute, hang somebody in the public square,
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  Speaker 1: like we used to do back in the.
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  Speaker 2: Day the Lincoln, the conspirators, and the converty after protecting
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  Speaker 2: John Wilkes booth afterwards. That's right, it's the early days
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  Speaker 2: of photography. You can see them hanging from a bite beam.
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  Speaker 1: This is not empty rhetoric. Mark, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: it would do to prevent future crime if we could
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  Speaker 1: see people publicly executed where it's becomes real. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, spare me the ten twenty years of appeals.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy did it. The guy's a monster,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're gonna give him the benefit of
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  Speaker 1: years and years of three squares a day a day
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  Speaker 1: and cable TV and an air conditioned jail cell. Get
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  Speaker 1: me a break. And and and by the way, the mother, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the mother is completely in favor of the death penalty
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  Speaker 1: for this the guy, how would you how could you
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  Speaker 1: live with knowing this seven year old light of your
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  Speaker 1: life was so brutally murdered? And Mark, do you ever
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  Speaker 1: stop and just look at a picture of the guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's sitting there and he's nodding, he's bowing his head
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  Speaker 1: and he's putting his hand over there. Do you ever
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  Speaker 1: wonder what could cause a man to do that to
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  Speaker 1: an innocent little child?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what the story was of this one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because of the history books are full of
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  Speaker 2: evil people who like wake up one day and say
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go find a kid to kill. Seems not
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  Speaker 2: to be the case here. He was a FedEx driver
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  Speaker 2: and he's just going about his business Dodie Dody Do
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  Speaker 2: and carelessly bumps into her just about runs are over,
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  Speaker 2: gets out, sees what's going on. He knows he's in
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  Speaker 2: instant trouble and knows that if what this girl's going
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  Speaker 2: to do, she's going to run inside and say the
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  Speaker 2: FedEx guy tried to run over me and can't have that.
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  Speaker 2: So he abducts her, stuffs her in the van, tries
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  Speaker 2: to figure out what his options are for self preservation,
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  Speaker 2: and the option he chooses is killing her. So it
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  Speaker 2: was well but for the accident of bumping into her.
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  Speaker 2: She's alive. But obviously the decision he made to take
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  Speaker 2: the most evil root out of his plight now places
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  Speaker 2: him in that courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Right and the prosecutors are casting doubt on that version. Incidentally,
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  Speaker 1: they're saying that he calculated, he had this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: planned out, that the bumping of her with the truck
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  Speaker 1: was a ruse just to get her in the truck.
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  Speaker 1: They're not completely on board. I think they apparently this
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  Speaker 1: guy the only thing he's admitting to is killing her,
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  Speaker 1: but he's lying about everything else. He's just lying about
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  Speaker 1: everything up to and around. But I'm just wonder. I
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  Speaker 1: just just keep wondering what could snap in your brain.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're you're a thirty four year old man, and
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  Speaker 1: you see this little innocent girl for whatever the circle,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna say, you know what, I'm gonna break
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  Speaker 1: her neck, I'm gonna strangle her, I'm gonna rape her,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna murder this little innocent girl. There's a picture
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  Speaker 1: of her with a big red bow in her hair,
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  Speaker 1: this beautiful little child. What could go so wrong? Mark?
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  Speaker 1: What could what could lead? If I could sit the
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  Speaker 1: guy down in a room, I'd say, what would make
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  Speaker 1: you think that that was gonna be a choice that
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  Speaker 1: you were going to decide to do that make that day?
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that?
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  Speaker 2: I do? And it boils down to a two word sentence.
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  Speaker 2: Evil exists. Yeah, and that sounds dismissive. Well, that explains everything,
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of does. And to the extent that
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  Speaker 2: because you're doing something very natural, I do it too.
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  Speaker 2: If only we could understand this, if only we could
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  Speaker 2: talk to them, if only we could apply the of
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  Speaker 2: what and I want to evil? I want you to
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  Speaker 2: evil exists. Do you ever have an odd fantasy about
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  Speaker 2: being able to time travel and teleport? If I could
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  Speaker 2: only drop myself into the moment that he hits her
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  Speaker 2: by accident or on purpose, at the moment he's thinking
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  Speaker 2: about doing this, just right, teleport in as some hero,
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  Speaker 2: some ethereal hero and go hey, hey, hey, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? What are you doing? You know, and somehow
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  Speaker 2: stop it ahead of time. But evil exists. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying we should stop trying to ever figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you show from the depths of mental illness
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  Speaker 2: to who knows what's going on? But some things like
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  Speaker 2: this are just going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the randomness of it that I don't understand. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I can, I can at least understand somebody kills somebody
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  Speaker 1: robbing a bank or you know whatever. There's a road
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand this is just a random I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to just pick on this seven year old girl
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  Speaker 1: speaking of mental illness. I guess you heard that the
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  Speaker 1: homeless man who was caught on video savagely butchering Irena Zarutska,
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  Speaker 1: the twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee on a Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: light rail train. He has been found incapable to proceed
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  Speaker 1: on murder charges. Yeah, he's incompetent to stand trial. Matt
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  Speaker 1: Walsh had a really good take on this, And I
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  Speaker 1: think often about this kind of this defense. You know,
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  Speaker 1: not you know, innocent by reason of insanity or not
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  Speaker 1: capable of standing trial. And the truth is, if you're
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  Speaker 1: such a total drain on society, the whole incompetent's what
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  Speaker 1: Matt Walsh said, The whole idea of incompetent to stand
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  Speaker 1: trial is nonsense. If you're too incompetent to understand that
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't butcher an innocent woman on the train, you
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  Speaker 1: should die, period, Arrest, convict, execute. You're not fit to
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  Speaker 1: be part of human society. How many more innocent people
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  Speaker 1: must we say sacrifice for the sake of coddling and
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  Speaker 1: babying The absolute scum of the earth. Our ancestors had
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  Speaker 1: it right, he said, they would have had this guy
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  Speaker 1: hanging from the gallows an hour after conviction. The old
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  Speaker 1: system of justice was light years better than the insane bs.
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  Speaker 2: We're full surround, and we would have done it publicly.
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  Speaker 2: Full circle back to what you were talking to you about.
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  Speaker 2: And if indeed there is some mental obstacle that keeps
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  Speaker 2: somebody from one hundred percent grasping what they're doing, if
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  Speaker 2: they only got eighty or ninety percent handle on what
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  Speaker 2: they're doing, which defense attorneys will instantly weaponize to try
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  Speaker 2: to spare their clients. Yep, let's execute people anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: that if you are a little foggy on things, maybe
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  Speaker 2: what cuts through your fog is huh, I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 2: killing this little girl, this person. I seem to remember
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  Speaker 2: ten people get the electric chair or the needle for
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  Speaker 2: doing what I'm about to do, so boom, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 2: think otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the John Remember Johnny Donovan, the voice of
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  Speaker 1: the Rush Limbah Show, and I worked with him in
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  Speaker 1: New York. Johnny Donovan had a one kill rule. He said,
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  Speaker 1: if I were emperor of the world, the rule would
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  Speaker 1: be everybody has the right to kill one person and
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  Speaker 1: get away with it. He goes yep, because he said,
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  Speaker 1: think about it. Can you imagine how polite society would
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  Speaker 1: be in that case? Everybody? Everybody gets one kill, so
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  Speaker 1: you better be nice to everybody, because anybody looks at
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  Speaker 1: you wrong, you get one kill. And he said that
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  Speaker 1: that was the Johnny Donovan one.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget that my show would change. I'd last
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  Speaker 2: five minutes, I take me out by eight o'clock. Hour
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  Speaker 2: is gone. Now there was stuff I was gonna do,
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  Speaker 2: they'd line me up.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't last past the monologue.