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A PRESCRIPTION FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE · For The Defense With Brad Koffel

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Speaker 1: General, I just got back from Italy a couple days ago. Indeed.
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Speaker 1: Good day to you, by the way.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Our Emma studies in Florence. She's at Miami University. She's
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Speaker 1: a junior. Miami University has a study abroad program like
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Speaker 1: many other universities. And we've encouraged our kids to.
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Speaker 2: Take— I studied a lot of broads in college.
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Speaker 1: This is study abroad. And I— general. Okay. Let me reset this.
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Speaker 1: Emma's over in Florence, England.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Florence, Italy. And, of course, Michelle and I are going
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Speaker 1: to go out and visit. Her twin sister Kate goes
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Speaker 1: next semester, so we'll do this all over again. I've
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Speaker 1: never been to Italy.
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Speaker 2: So she'll go to Florence too?
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Speaker 1: She will.
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Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
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Speaker 1: I've never been to Italy. We've been to Europe a
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Speaker 1: few times. My wife's family is British, so we get
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Speaker 1: to London once every couple years. But, man, Italy– If
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Speaker 1: Italy is the future of Europe, which I believe it is,
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Speaker 1: I went in really not knowing anything about Italy other
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Speaker 1: than some very light history from a 50,000-foot view. And
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Speaker 1: I knew a little– I knew some bits and pieces.
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Speaker 1: From what I can tell, every single small business owner
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Speaker 1: that I talked to, every single taxi cab driver that
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Speaker 1: I talked to, every waiter, and every owner of restaurant
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Speaker 1: that we– because these– Restaurants are largely– they're family-owned. They're small,
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Speaker 1: independent restaurants. They all said the same thing. Our country
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Speaker 1: has been overrun by immigrants from Africa, North Africa, and
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Speaker 1: the Middle East. And they are like– their words, not
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Speaker 1: mine– like locusts on our economy, locusts on our way
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Speaker 1: of life. And they're taking they're taking lower skilled jobs.
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Speaker 2: They are.
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Speaker 3: These are the latter jobs which you use to go
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Speaker 3: up into higher skilled jobs.
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Speaker 1: I guess, you know, but the waiters and they're like,
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Speaker 1: our economy is so heavily dependent on tourism that half
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Speaker 1: the year we're out of business, you know, where we
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Speaker 1: were in in the southern Italy. They closed down October 31,
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Speaker 1: and they reopened around Easter. And so in their six months,
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Speaker 1: they need to make a year's worth of wages. Their
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Speaker 1: spouses work. They have to pay for child care. Child
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Speaker 1: care is super expensive. But the immigration problem has been
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Speaker 1: like locusts in the field. And one particular business owner,
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Speaker 1: fourth-generation Italian, On the Amalfi Coast, heavy tourism place, but beautiful,
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Speaker 1: beautiful land. Wonderful people. Fourth generation guys, 40 years old.
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Speaker 1: And he said, Europe is gone. Maybe the UK can
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Speaker 1: salvage it. The US still has time, but Europe's gone.
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Speaker 1: And every city was packed. Rome, Florence, Venice, the Amalfi towns,
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Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder. I did do some research on this,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just blown away. It's a country of just
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Speaker 1: 59 million people. Demand is up because of all the
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Speaker 1: money that's been created in the Middle East, a lot
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Speaker 1: of the money that's found its way into the African nation,
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Speaker 1: the African nations. They are moving in as long-term residents,
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Speaker 1: and the demand is up dramatically. There's no more building.
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Speaker 1: In the cities, these buildings are 500 years old, and
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Speaker 1: nobody is building more of them. Landlords convert apartments to
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Speaker 1: short-term rentals. Locals get pushed out of the cities. And
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Speaker 1: the traffic congestion as the working class leaves the city
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Speaker 1: in the evening, and the traffic congestion as the working
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Speaker 1: class comes back into the city during the days, they're
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Speaker 1: pricing out the locals here. who want to live in
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Speaker 1: their cities. They can't afford to live there anymore. You
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Speaker 1: see it already in New York. You see it on
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Speaker 1: the coast. The locals get pushed out, and the working
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Speaker 1: Italian is getting crushed. The average single worker is taxed
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Speaker 1: at about 47%. Think about that.
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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Speaker 1: It is incredible. They have high taxes and thin public services.
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Speaker 1: To say that the public utilities... were modern and reliable
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Speaker 1: would be a lie. You just don't ask them, they go,
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Speaker 1: what do you see in return on your tax dollars?
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Speaker 1: They go, the return, not for us. The return comes
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Speaker 1: to the people that are in power. They're the ones
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Speaker 1: making all the money. In Italy, about 352,000 young Italians
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Speaker 1: left the country in the last decade. births in Italy
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Speaker 1: of Italians are at a record low. And a country
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Speaker 1: that taxes labor to death eventually runs out of laborers.
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Speaker 1: And that's what's happening. And this is why this matters
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Speaker 1: here in the U.S. If you're in finance, tech, or
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Speaker 1: big company with pricing power, Italy is a lovely place
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Speaker 1: to go visit, and America is a wonderful place to live.
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Speaker 1: If you work for a wage.
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Speaker 1: You pay the full tax. You buy at retail. The U.S.
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Speaker 1: is going the way of Europe. You're getting squeezed from
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Speaker 1: three sides at once. Higher prices, higher taxes, higher inflation,
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Speaker 1: and our incomes are not keeping up.
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Speaker 2: Period.
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Speaker 1: Now, I've got some ideas. I also want to mention
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Speaker 1: before the end of this segment, there is a coughle
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Speaker 1: on the ballot. First time ever, other than my uncle,
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Speaker 1: Dick Coffell, who was sheriff of Columbiana County for a
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Speaker 1: number of years up in northeast Ohio. There's a Coffell
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Speaker 1: on the ballot. My son, Cameron Coffell, is running for
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Speaker 1: the statehouse as an independent, non-party, non-affiliated for the 7th District.
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Speaker 1: If you live in Grandview, Arlington, Clintonville, you're going to
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Speaker 1: see a Coffell on the ballot. And if you are
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Speaker 1: for common sense, You're for somebody that is not a
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Speaker 1: is not a beneficiary of party politics or or forced
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Speaker 1: recipient of party politics. Vote for Cameron Koffel.
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Speaker 3: I can attest to how independent he is. I know
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Speaker 3: whenever you try to give him advice, he's very independent.
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Speaker 1: He's very I wait for his Instagram reels. It's Koffel
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Speaker 1: for Ohio and Instagram. And you can see my son's
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Speaker 1: you can see my son. You can see his. His deliverables,
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Speaker 1: you can hear what he says about things. He did
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Speaker 1: one on the death penalty a couple days, and I
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Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to say until I click
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Speaker 1: on it. And I'm holding my breath. He's talking about
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Speaker 1: the death penalty now and live streaming and execution. And
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Speaker 1: I hold my breath. Say the words, oh, Lord.
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Speaker 2: Okay, right.
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Speaker 1: And then this is a new father phenomenon. I see
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Speaker 1: a new one on gun control.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, no.
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Speaker 1: Watch it. Hold my breath. See what he says. Here's
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Speaker 1: his one on data centers. It's like, oh, hold your breath.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't come to me. He doesn't ask me, hey, Dad,
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Speaker 1: what do you think? He does it the way I
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Speaker 1: did it. I'm proud of him for that. Please support
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Speaker 1: your local– Your local coughle. Your local coughle. His opponents,
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Speaker 1: one person I don't even– I'm not even sure she
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Speaker 1: was born in the U.S. She may be. She may
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Speaker 1: be– but she's from a country, one of the– I
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Speaker 1: think she's from one of the African countries. Her name
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Speaker 1: would suggest as much. And no one knew her. She
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Speaker 1: moved into Upper Arlington in the right around COVID. And
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Speaker 1: immediately this name pops up on city council to be
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Speaker 1: a city council member. And the big blue wave, the
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Speaker 1: ultra woke that Upper Arlington has become puts her into office.
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Speaker 1: And I've never met her. I'm sure she's a nice,
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Speaker 1: nice lady. But this is a stepping stone for her,
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Speaker 1: as it is for all these Soros-backed candidates. One way
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Speaker 1: or the other, directly or indirectly, it's that type of politician.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. It's the Act
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Speaker 1: Blue person.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: OK, so he's running against the Act Blue person.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of locusts.
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Speaker 1: From the Biden era. And then the Republican guy, I'm
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Speaker 1: not even sure he is the party endorsement. I mean,
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Speaker 1: no one knows him. It's just ridiculous. It's just we
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Speaker 1: watch his stuff, and you're like, really? I mean, have
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Speaker 1: a personality. Know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 2: His name is Smith or Jones.
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Speaker 1: Worse.
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Speaker 3: Worse.
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Speaker 2: Bill.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Let's see. I've got some ideas, and here's what we,
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Speaker 1: the American people, need to be demanding of these people
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Speaker 1: running for office. Shut your pie hole and listen to us.
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Speaker 1: We're done listening to you. All you guys do is
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Speaker 1: bitch and moan about your opponents. Once you listen to
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Speaker 1: us for a change, zip it and listen. That's what's
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Speaker 1: coming up next. Brad Koffel, the general for the defense
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Speaker 1: of the American people on 610 WTVN. Welcome back for
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Speaker 1: the You're going to need a new vehicle. You're going
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Speaker 1: to need a new truck. You're going to need a
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Speaker 1: new car.
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Speaker 2: And you're going to make a mistake if you go
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Speaker 2: anywhere else.
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Speaker 1: There's really no reason. Buy American. Buy from an American
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Speaker 1: family-owned business. Support those that have similar and shared values
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Speaker 1: of you. And we just can't say enough about the
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Speaker 1: Gill family and Chaz Rohn.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Where are we? My head is swimming. I've got my
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Speaker 1: kids are in their 20s. And I certainly didn't think
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Speaker 1: at 58 years old I would be working as hard
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Speaker 1: around the clock as many days of the week as
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Speaker 1: I am. Do you feel this way, General?
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Speaker 2: I was hoping that I would be working hard at
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Speaker 2: this age.
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Speaker 1: I don't mind the practice of law. I love engaging
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Speaker 1: with clients. I absolutely love being in the courtroom. One
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Speaker 1: of my favorite things is to be trying cases with you.
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Speaker 1: But the fact is it's very, very expensive to have
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Speaker 1: to hire a legal team to get you or your
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Speaker 1: loved one into and out of the criminal justice system.
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Speaker 1: It's such a very– it's a very, very expensive process.
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Speaker 1: I don't like that piece. I hate having to quote
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Speaker 1: the fees that are required to do this job properly
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Speaker 1: the way I would want it done for my loved
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Speaker 1: ones if we ever, God forbid, had to go through this.
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Speaker 1: And I see these families every day. Where are you
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Speaker 1: finding this money to pay for lawyers? I don't think
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Speaker 1: there's– I've never taken insurance money, law insurance. Like doctors
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Speaker 1: get tapped into health insurance.
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Speaker 3: The prosecutors for some reason always have the money to
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Speaker 3: try a case.
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Speaker 1: Why is that? It's our money. So I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of Americans are– I think my guess is the
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Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. And
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Speaker 1: as wealthy as this country is, it shouldn't be the case.
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Speaker 1: There are rats in the kitchen. There are bedbugs in
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Speaker 1: the bed. There's something– there's a virus. There's something going
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Speaker 1: on in the system that– The overwhelming majority of Americans
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Speaker 1: are living paycheck to paycheck slash unable to set aside
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Speaker 1: meaningful money out of every paycheck every month to have
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Speaker 1: the nest egg.
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Speaker 3: Well, could it not be that it's exactly what you
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Speaker 3: were talking about in the last segment? We are in
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Speaker 3: the pre-Italy stage where all these people are coming in
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Speaker 3: from other countries and taking the entry level jobs. Nobody
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Speaker 3: starts off as vice president of marketing. You start off
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Speaker 3: in the mailroom. You start off as the pizza delivery guy.
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Speaker 3: You start off as somebody who's just trying to get
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Speaker 3: an hourly job. And then what's happening is all of
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Speaker 3: these lower skilled, no skilled people from the Middle East
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Speaker 3: are coming in or Mexico or wherever. are coming in
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Speaker 3: from out of this country, and they're sucking up all
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Speaker 3: the apartments. They're sucking up all of the places to live.
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Speaker 3: They're sucking up all of the entry-level jobs. And then
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Speaker 3: what we've got is people who are in college for
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Speaker 3: four extra years after high school, after they've become adults,
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Speaker 3: and so they're even behind that. And then now they've
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Speaker 3: got this huge debt, and all they can do is
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Speaker 3: get a job at Barista, you know, as a barista
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Speaker 3: at Starbucks or some other place.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've got to work multiple jobs, and look, that's fine.
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Speaker 1: If you're in your 20s and you're single, you work
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Speaker 1: a few jobs. You know, I'm having this conversation with
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Speaker 1: our kids now, you know, plan on working two jobs
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Speaker 1: next summer. And once our kids are out of college,
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Speaker 1: the deal is you're off scholarship with the family. You've
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Speaker 1: got to be financially independent. I'm not going to deprive
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Speaker 1: you of the luxury of poverty. Some of the best
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Speaker 1: years of one's life are those humbling years in your
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Speaker 1: mid to late 20s, maybe even your early 30s, where
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Speaker 1: you are. You remember going to like the genie machine,
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Speaker 1: the ATM machine. And to check your balance.
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Speaker 2: And you're like. Remember going to the grocery store and
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Speaker 2: getting macaroni. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, those are good days. And I want my
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Speaker 1: kids to learn. I want my kids to be comfortable
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Speaker 1: being poor. I want them to be comfortable living on
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Speaker 1: ramen noodles and a hot pot and maybe sharing an
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Speaker 1: apartment and walking instead of Ubering everywhere.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: I want that. It's okay. That is not a sign
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Speaker 1: of a sick nation. That's a sign of a healthy nation.
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Speaker 1: Your kids in their 20s need to start on their own,
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Speaker 1: ground zero, and build it themselves. One of the conversations
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Speaker 1: that I'm having with my friends, again, who are in
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Speaker 1: their 50s, who've done very well financially, is how much
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Speaker 1: do you help your kids financially? When they're in their 20s,
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Speaker 1: they're out of college, how much financial assistance do you
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Speaker 1: give them or do you just provide a safety net
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Speaker 1: or do you don't announce anything? No financial assistance, you
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Speaker 1: don't announce a financial safety net. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of families that are unable to do either, provide financial
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Speaker 1: assistance or an invisible safety net. In your 20s and
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Speaker 1: early 30s, that's okay.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: My concern, and I think what we need to be
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Speaker 1: talking about, are the parents. When you're in your mid-30s
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Speaker 1: to mid-50s, those 20 years when you're raising a family,
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Speaker 1: rearing a family, those folks need jobs. They need jobs
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Speaker 1: that can pay the utilities, the necessities, and have a
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Speaker 1: little leftover to go into a retirement account or into–
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Speaker 1: cash into the bank. That's not happening. I have some prescriptions.
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Speaker 1: This is what I want politicians to be talking about.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see any more dumb ass ads,
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Speaker 1: negative ads, just blasting each other's opponents. It's litter. It's
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Speaker 1: like litter on the side of a highway. It's disgusting.
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Speaker 1: Number one, let's start with putting more money back into
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Speaker 1: the wallets of And that is let's fix the tax code.
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Speaker 1: Here's how this works. Your labor is charged as an
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Speaker 1: income tax. Your investments that you don't do– if you're
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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have investments called capital that are in investments,
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Speaker 1: as they grow and make income, they're taxed at a
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Speaker 1: much lower rate. So we tax labor. at a 1.5x
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Speaker 1: to maybe even 2x, probably 1.5x, as we do capital.
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Speaker 1: So there's two tax codes, one for each kind of American.
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Speaker 1: There's the working class, and there's the investment class. If
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Speaker 1: you earn money by working, like most of us, the
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Speaker 1: 2026 federal brackets go up to 37%. If you earn
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Speaker 1: money by holding stock, the top is 20% income tax,
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Speaker 1: capital gains. Same dollar, same concept, different American.
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Speaker 2: I would quibble with that a little bit. Quibble away.
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Speaker 3: First of all, there's nothing that stops a person who
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Speaker 3: works and earns money under a W-2 tax regime from
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Speaker 3: going and buying some Disney stock here and there.
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Speaker 1: With what leftover money?
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Speaker 2: Well, don't buy a new car this year. I understand.
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Speaker 3: Just continue to have the older one and then put
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Speaker 3: an extra $ 100 or so into a mutual fund.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if we were all part of a club, let's
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Speaker 1: just say we were all part of a club.
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Speaker 2: You wouldn't be a member of my club.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be a member of anyone at
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Speaker 1: the club that would take me. But if we were
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Speaker 1: all a member of a club and the members that
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Speaker 1: came in after work who had worked all day. They
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Speaker 1: get taxed at a higher rate than the members that
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Speaker 1: come in at the end of the day after golfing
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Speaker 1: while their dollars are making money in the stock market.
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Speaker 1: Those dollars that are increasing in value, that investment, that's
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Speaker 1: called capital, capital gains, caps out at 20%. The guy
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Speaker 1: who works his ass off, makes a lot of money,
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Speaker 1: caps out at 37%. Same club, two different memberships. There
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Speaker 1: is no moral justification that the state, the government should
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Speaker 1: be taxing labor, sweat, greater, 1.5x over equity, period.
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Speaker 3: But you're forgetting that corporations pay taxes.
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Speaker 2: Before the.
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Speaker 3: Golfer can collect his bond issue, interest payments, before he
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Speaker 3: can– collect his dividends from his stock, that company has
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Speaker 3: already paid taxes.
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Speaker 1: If you have enough money left over after your labor
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Speaker 1: to participate in the investment world, I'm talking about the
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Speaker 1: people that don't have enough money left over to participate
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Speaker 1: in the investment world. Their income should be– their income
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Speaker 1: tax ought to be capped at 20 percent, which is
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Speaker 1: the cap on capital gains tax.
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Speaker 2: I think it should be lower than that.
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Speaker 1: I think it should– yeah, I don't think we should
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Speaker 1: be taxing labor, period. Well, we've– that's where the Congress
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Speaker 1: gets 35 percent of its revenue is from taxing American labor.
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Speaker 1: You know what? Find someone else to tax.
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Speaker 2: Or spend less.
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Speaker 1: Spend less. Tax someone else's cattle. Stop taxing us. The
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Speaker 1: fastest way to put more money back into the checking
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Speaker 1: accounts of your average American is at the kitchen table.
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Speaker 1: And that is to cap income tax 20 percent. Match
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Speaker 1: it as the cap on the capital gains tax. And
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of those are about that's a lot
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Speaker 1: of money that goes back.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with this after the break. All right,
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Speaker 1: we're coming back. We're on the eve of elections. Vote
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Speaker 1: Koffel if you're in Brompton, Grandview, Clintonville.
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Speaker 2: Vote Koffel. Remember, it's Cameron Koffel, not Thread.
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Speaker 1: Not his old man, Cameron Koffel. And get a Koffel
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Speaker 1: for Ohio on Instagram and TikTok. You can see what
20:55
Speaker 1: Junior's all about. He's not affiliated with either party. OK,
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Speaker 1: I've got a prescription for America, and this is what
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Speaker 1: I want. This is what. And I want your thoughts
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Speaker 1: on this as well, General. I thought our last conversation
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Speaker 1: about income tax was pretty interesting. We need a fix
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Speaker 1: on that. We need the fastest way to put money
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Speaker 1: back into people without printing more dollars.
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Speaker 3: That's the worst thing of all. That's the tax that's.
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Speaker 2: Worst of all. That's the worst.
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Speaker 1: That's the silent burglar that works 24-7. Burglaring your future
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Speaker 1: is inflation. Without printing more dollars— Cap the income tax
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Speaker 1: at 20%. Match it as that's the cap of the
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Speaker 1: capital gains tax. The stupidity of overtaxing one's labor versus
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Speaker 1: undertaxing one's capital doesn't make any sense. I want to
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Speaker 1: get the middleman. Number two, prescription number two, cut out
21:45
Speaker 1: the middleman as it relates to our necessities. Buy your
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Speaker 1: food from the people who grow it. Live off the land,
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Speaker 1: not out of a box. The farmer gets about 15%
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Speaker 1: of your food dollar. So the way the USDA system works,
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Speaker 1: the farmer gets about 15 cents of your dollar. The
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Speaker 1: other 85 cents of your dollar goes to processing, packaging, transport, marketing,
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Speaker 1: and the retailer. You're paying for the box, the truck,
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Speaker 1: the jingle, and the shelf. I say, buy your bread
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Speaker 1: from a local baker. Buy your eggs from a family
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Speaker 1: with a coop. Get a quarter or a half of
22:27
Speaker 1: beef from a farm. Cut, wrap, put it in the
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Speaker 1: chest freezer if you can find a chest freezer these days.
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Speaker 1: Vegetables and fruit from the farm stands or a community market,
22:39
Speaker 1: a farmer's market. I've mapped out Central Ohio farm stores
22:44
Speaker 1: and there are more of them than you think. Look
22:47
Speaker 1: at those guys. Think about that. Why would you pay
22:52
Speaker 1: so many middlemen to get your food. Don't pay for
22:56
Speaker 1: the box. Don't pay for the truck. Don't pay for
22:59
Speaker 1: the dumb jingles, the commercials, and don't pay for the
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Speaker 1: shelf space. Eliminate that.
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Speaker 3: An orange already has a box. It's just the skin
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Speaker 3: of the orange.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: The box, you have a mass-produced loaf of bread has
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Speaker 1: 20 ingredients. A baker's loaf has four. You are paying
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Speaker 1: extra for shelf life, which is a polite word for preservatives.
23:28
Speaker 1: The dollar you hand a farmer in Madison County stays
23:31
Speaker 1: in Madison County. It doesn't go to a holding company
23:35
Speaker 1: in the state of Delaware and then to a lobbyist
23:38
Speaker 1: in Washington. Please take this into your own hands. Rethink
23:43
Speaker 1: your relationship with Giant Eagle and Kroger. Get excited about
23:49
Speaker 1: farm stands. Get excited. Find your food Do your family
23:54
Speaker 1: a favor by eating cleaner. Save some money. Put some
23:59
Speaker 1: money in the locals' pockets. Start with just one category.
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Speaker 1: Eggs this month. Meat next month. Bread in December. No
24:09
Speaker 1: one's asking you to churn your own butter. But we
24:14
Speaker 1: need to stop paying all the middlemen to put a
24:17
Speaker 1: sticker on a tomato.
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Speaker 2: Seriously.
24:22
Speaker 1: Next prescription. Data centers pay their own way. Welcome them,
24:27
Speaker 1: regulate them, tax them, and send the savings to the
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Speaker 1: people whose grid they are using. They're coming to Ohio
24:36
Speaker 1: and they're hungry. A single large data center campus can
24:39
Speaker 1: draw as much electricity as a mid-sized city.
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Speaker 2: All right?
24:45
Speaker 1: The megawatts of new peak demand in Ohio... is crushing
24:55
Speaker 1: the grid and the rest of us that are paying
24:58
Speaker 1: for it. And there's a lot of money behind these
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Speaker 1: data centers. If they're going to come in and buy
25:08
Speaker 1: up the farmland, they're going to cash out those sellers
25:12
Speaker 1: of the farmland in Licking County, let's say, or Knox
25:14
Speaker 1: County or Ross County, Pickaway County. If those farmers are
25:20
Speaker 1: going to cash out, and sell their land to the
25:23
Speaker 1: data centers, fine. That's their prerogative. That's their right. But
25:27
Speaker 1: the communities, the townships need to be involved in this,
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Speaker 1: not just the cities. They need to get the townships involved,
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Speaker 1: the counties involved. And as they drive up, they cannot
25:42
Speaker 1: be permitted to drive up electricity prices.
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Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind, I mean, when those data centers
25:48
Speaker 3: come out there, that farmland goes from X number of
25:51
Speaker 3: dollars per acre in real estate taxes to suddenly 50
25:55
Speaker 3: times that. And so there's going to be a lot
25:58
Speaker 3: more tax money coming in to the locals who can
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Speaker 3: use that to better their schools and all.
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Speaker 2: Uh, I would also echo.
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Speaker 3: One thing you're not thinking about that makes the problem
26:08
Speaker 3: of electricity even worse is that as more and more
26:11
Speaker 3: people get electric cars, that is also going to put
26:14
Speaker 3: a big, uh, problem and grab onto our, uh, electrical, uh, supply.
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Speaker 1: System yeah so in july of last summer the puco
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Speaker 1: approved a uh a data center tariff now new data
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Speaker 1: centers of 25 well i i'm not gonna do all
26:35
Speaker 1: the measurements and all that stuff i did the research
26:37
Speaker 1: on this but um these are the richest companies in
26:41
Speaker 1: the history of the world they can cite their they
26:44
Speaker 1: can cite their own gas turbines their own nuclear their
26:47
Speaker 1: own solar and storage on their own land. Public policy
26:53
Speaker 1: should require it for any campus above a threshold and
26:56
Speaker 1: then sell it back to us cheaper. When a campus overbuilds,
27:01
Speaker 1: and they will, and surplus goes on to the Ohio
27:05
Speaker 1: grid at a regulated price below what we pay today.
27:09
Speaker 1: Here's the trade-off. You get our farmland and our transmission lines,
27:13
Speaker 1: we get lower electric bills. And it needs to be
27:17
Speaker 1: enforceable and it needs to be penalties. I also they're
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Speaker 1: gobbling thousands of acres of some of the best farmland
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Speaker 1: in America. There needs to be a per acre impact
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Speaker 1: fee that funds a direct credit on every residential electric
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Speaker 1: bill in the host county. I want to see that
27:37
Speaker 1: on my electric bill. I want to see the fee
27:41
Speaker 1: that's being charged these companies. I want to see that
27:47
Speaker 1: credit on my electric bill. I want to actually see
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Speaker 1: The public policy that's reducing the cost of electricity to
27:55
Speaker 1: the rest of us.
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Speaker 2: Are these not high-tech companies? Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, why can't they– generating electricity is pretty low-tech. Why
28:04
Speaker 3: can't they have their own electrical generating sources?
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Speaker 1: They can't. It doesn't all need to be coal.
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Speaker 3: As I understand it in Piketon, that's being built right
28:14
Speaker 3: next to this liquid natural gas.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:17
Speaker 3: And they're going to be feeding that liquid natural gas,
28:20
Speaker 3: which is a very clean energy alternative, into a generator
28:26
Speaker 3: that the data center will have all by itself. So
28:31
Speaker 3: they're going to be generating their own. Aircraft carriers run
28:35
Speaker 3: off of small nuclear reactors. Why can't we use these
28:38
Speaker 3: small nuclear reactors where these data centers are?
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Speaker 1: Sure.
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Speaker 2: Again.
28:43
Speaker 1: I want politicians to shut up on their dumb ads
28:46
Speaker 1: and listen to us. Not just us, but listen to
28:48
Speaker 1: the people. The people, no. Look, if data centers want
28:52
Speaker 1: to be a good neighbor, great. Good neighbors bring over
28:54
Speaker 1: a casserole and a bottle of wine. This one should
28:58
Speaker 1: bring out a lower electric bill. Easy.
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Speaker 2: Fix it.
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Speaker 1: Before we leave the data center.
29:08
Speaker 1: The general just brought up a great point during the break.
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Speaker 1: Say that again, General.
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Speaker 3: Remember who we're competing with when it comes to AI,
29:17
Speaker 3: that these data centers are being manufactured to produce. And
29:21
Speaker 3: who wins the AI race is going to determine who
29:24
Speaker 3: wins a lot of things in the next two or
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Speaker 3: three decades. And a lot of competition we're getting from
29:30
Speaker 3: AI is China. And they are a little bit behind us.
29:33
Speaker 3: And they're looking for ways to slow us down. And
29:36
Speaker 3: so if you find– if you watch a data center,
29:38
Speaker 3: anti-data center ad, you will find that oftentimes it is
29:42
Speaker 3: funded by the Chinese.
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Speaker 1: Directly or indirectly. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense why
29:46
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have the data centers in our homeland. Bring
29:50
Speaker 1: them here. Put them inside our borders. Of course, data
29:53
Speaker 1: centers are the future.
29:54
Speaker 3: Or put them in northern Alaska where you could just
29:57
Speaker 3: open up the window and cool the place.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a way to do this, but the media
30:04
Speaker 1: and the marketing machines of our enemies who have the
30:07
Speaker 1: ability to come in and influence voters this way, data
30:09
Speaker 1: centers are the future. We have to have them. We
30:14
Speaker 1: have to have the entire infrastructure within our coasts, within
30:17
Speaker 1: our borders. There's a way to make them good neighbors. Absolutely.
30:21
Speaker 1: That has to be done. That's what the politicians need
30:23
Speaker 1: to be talking about. You don't ban data centers. We
30:27
Speaker 1: regulate them, we tax them, we make them good neighbors,
30:29
Speaker 1: and we lower our electric bill. We provide high-paying, low-training
30:35
Speaker 1: level jobs, but a lot of electrical jobs, which leads
30:39
Speaker 1: to my next concept, prescription number four. Train our own.
30:44
Speaker 1: Reduce school and work visas. Retrain American moms and dads
30:49
Speaker 1: for the next generation of work. And stop apologizing for
30:53
Speaker 1: putting America and Americans first. The H-1B program hands out 85,000
30:59
Speaker 1: new work visas a year by lottery. More than a
31:02
Speaker 1: million foreign nationals are enrolled in American universities on student visas.
31:07
Speaker 1: Many stay and work under a program called OPT, which
31:11
Speaker 1: is a work permit dressed as a classroom. And what
31:18
Speaker 1: we want is simple. Fewer seats for foreign nationals, more
31:22
Speaker 1: seats for Ohio kids, moms, and dads. fewer work permits
31:26
Speaker 1: for imported labor, more apprenticeships for the dad who got
31:30
Speaker 1: laid off at 38 or 42, and the mom who
31:33
Speaker 1: wants back in at 50. We'll spend $ 70, 000 a year
31:37
Speaker 1: sending a kid to a university to study something that
31:41
Speaker 1: ends in the world, ends in something studies, and then
31:45
Speaker 1: import an engineer. We are the only country that outsources
31:49
Speaker 1: the one job we already paid tuition for. This is
31:53
Speaker 1: absolutely idiotic. electricians for the data centers, linemen for the grid,
31:59
Speaker 1: welders and pipe fitters for the gas plants, nuclear techs,
32:03
Speaker 1: there's your nuke, heavy equipment operators, nurses, physicians assistants. None
32:10
Speaker 1: of this needs four years degree. All of it pays
32:14
Speaker 1: and pays well. And all of it is in demand
32:16
Speaker 1: in Ohio right now.
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Speaker 3: Well, keep in mind, President Trump just announced that there
32:21
Speaker 3: are six very, very large U.S. companies that that are
32:24
Speaker 3: no longer going to be able to take advantage of
32:27
Speaker 3: the H-1B visa programs. Microsoft was one of them, as
32:30
Speaker 3: a matter of fact.
32:31
Speaker 1: There we go.
32:32
Speaker 3: And also, Vance announced that if you are a student
32:36
Speaker 3: coming over here to take a place at our universities,
32:39
Speaker 3: if you want to work while you're a student, it's.
32:42
Speaker 2: A $ 60, 000 permit fee.
32:43
Speaker 1: Actually, I think it's more than that, General. I think
32:47
Speaker 1: it's $ 70, 000. But you're exactly right. And this is what
32:51
Speaker 1: the administration is doing to protect students.
32:54
Speaker 2: Americans.
32:55
Speaker 1: Now, let me give you the moral high ground. Nationalism
32:59
Speaker 1: and patriotism are moral. This goes back centuries, millennia. You
33:05
Speaker 1: owe your children more than the neighbor's children. Sorry, that's
33:09
Speaker 1: just moral. That's the way it is. You owe your
33:12
Speaker 1: neighbor more than a stranger. You owe your fellow countryman
33:18
Speaker 1: more than a foreigner. That is not hatred of the stranger.
33:22
Speaker 1: It is the order in which duty arrives. A man
33:26
Speaker 1: who loves everyone equally loves no one in particular, okay?
33:31
Speaker 1: You must feed you first. You feed your family first.
33:37
Speaker 1: That's not bigotry. A nation that puts its own workers,
33:40
Speaker 1: its own students, its own seniors first is not sinning
33:45
Speaker 1: against the world. It is doing the one job a
33:48
Speaker 1: nation exists to do, right? And this goes back to
33:52
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys, G.K. Chesterton said, my country,
33:56
Speaker 1: right or wrong, is like my mother, drunk or sober.
34:00
Speaker 1: You do not stop loving her when she is wrong.
34:02
Speaker 1: You sober her up. That is what this hour is.
34:06
Speaker 1: It's time to sober up. OK. The remaining part here,
34:15
Speaker 1: drill it. We're the biggest producer on Earth. We have
34:18
Speaker 1: the oil, we have the gas, produce it, employ Americans
34:22
Speaker 1: at higher wages, and bring the price down. The pump
34:25
Speaker 1: still says $ 4. 41 or whatever it is. A year ago,
34:32
Speaker 1: it was $ 3. 16. There are jobs, and there is oil,
34:39
Speaker 1: and there are gas fields. They pay well above state median.
34:43
Speaker 1: They don't require college degrees. We need welders, drivers, pipe fitters, electricians.
34:50
Speaker 1: Energy independence is right here, and the retraining is right here.
34:57
Speaker 1: Independence is a security policy. It is a national security policy.
35:01
Speaker 1: Every time a straight closes or a tanker gets hit,
35:05
Speaker 1: the price at Speedway and Hilliard moves. But a country
35:08
Speaker 1: that produces its own energy is a country that cannot
35:11
Speaker 1: be held hostage by by mullahs in persia this is
35:15
Speaker 1: not an environmental debate this is a sovereignty.
35:18
Speaker 2: Debate it's a national security debate.
35:20
Speaker 1: Finally my final prescription prison for the corrupt politicians all right.
35:26
Speaker 2: Larry house miss omar larry yeah.
35:29
Speaker 1: Larry householder and let's see if she actually ever gets
35:32
Speaker 1: sentenced or flees the country larry householder speak of their
35:36
Speaker 1: speaker of the ohio house took about $ 60 million in
35:40
Speaker 1: first energy money to ram through a billion-dollar bailout called
35:43
Speaker 1: House Bill 6. I was involved in this as a
35:47
Speaker 1: defense lawyer. I represented dark money group number one. A
35:52
Speaker 1: federal jury convicted him in 2023, and he got 20 years.
35:57
Speaker 1: You're paying the bailout on our electric bill while he
36:01
Speaker 1: counted the bribes. You know how many United States senators
36:03
Speaker 1: have gone to prison? Since 1950?
36:05
Speaker 2: I would say zero. Well, no. Menendez went.
36:10
Speaker 1: Menendez won. All the congressmen that have been prosecuted since 1950,
36:15
Speaker 1: they get months in federal prison if they don't get
36:19
Speaker 1: executive clemency and pardons. They get months. My clients, you
36:23
Speaker 1: pick up average Joe, picks up a dumb, stupid felony,
36:29
Speaker 1: felony assault, bar fight, whatever. He's looking at years in prison.
36:34
Speaker 1: But these politicians, if they get investigated, prosecuted, convicted, they're
36:41
Speaker 1: not getting incarcerated. And that's not real deterrence. Mandatory minimum
36:46
Speaker 1: prison time for bribery by a public official, forfeiture of
36:51
Speaker 1: their public pension, lifetime ban from public office and from lobbying.
36:56
Speaker 1: Personally accountable for the money stolen. Okay. The same rules
37:02
Speaker 1: that apply to a drug dealer's truck we do to
37:06
Speaker 1: these lobbyists and politicians. I want the lobbyists who write
37:11
Speaker 1: the checks prosecuted and incarcerated, the staffers who carried it,
37:15
Speaker 1: the utility executives who approved it, okay? First Energy paid
37:20
Speaker 1: a $ 230 million penalty. Nobody at the top went to prison.
37:24
Speaker 1: A fine is a license to do business.
37:27
Speaker 2: It's almost a bribe to.
37:29
Speaker 1: Prison is a message.
37:30
Speaker 2: Get out of jail. Right.
37:31
Speaker 1: I've spent 33 years defending people accused of crimes. I
37:35
Speaker 1: would make an exception for this pro bono for the prosecution.
37:39
Speaker 1: I'd come prosecute for free. Every prescription we're talking about
37:43
Speaker 1: lower taxes on labor, cheaper food, cheaper power, our own
37:48
Speaker 1: kids trained our own energy. And all of this is
37:52
Speaker 1: dying on the desks of men and women who've been
37:55
Speaker 1: paid to kill these ideas. Put these people in prison
38:00
Speaker 1: and the rest of this gets easier.