Latest / The Letterbox Podcast / Dear Grandparents | Letter 4: A family’s NICU story
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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to the Letterbox podcast, the place
- 0:03where real people share the real letters they've written about
- 0:06the things that mean the most to them.
- 0:09I'm Lucy, and today you are joining us for Part 4 of Doctor
- 0:14Catherine's miniseries for Niku Awareness Week.
- 0:18So far, we've heard letters to her daughter, her son, and her
- 0:22husband. Today, she writes to the four
- 0:25people who helped hold everything together around then,
- 0:30the grandparents. Because while Catherine and her
- 0:34husband were parenting their own children, their parents were
- 0:39watching their son and daughter go through something they could
- 0:42never have imagined for them. They couldn't change what was
- 0:47happening. They couldn't make their
- 0:49granddaughter well, but they could show up.
- 0:54And that is what they did. This letter is about what they
- 1:00gave the family, but it's also about the things that Catherine
- 1:04didn't have capacity to recognise at the time.
- 1:09Their worry, their helplessness and what it must have been like
- 1:14to watch a child of your own become frightened for their
- 1:17baby. Before I share this very honest
- 1:21and reflective letter, I would love it if you could press the
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- 1:38hear it today. And now for Catherine's letter
- 1:44to the village supporting her family, the grandparents.
- 1:55Dear Grandparents, Well Mummy and Daddy and Granny and
- 1:59Grandpa, the four of you have been invaluable.
- 2:03People talk about having a village when you have children
- 2:05and I guess whilst we've seen a lot of you and had a lot of fun,
- 2:10we live far apart and we don't really have a village here in
- 2:13that sense. But you guys really rose to it
- 2:17over the last 18 months. You showed up, you supported us,
- 2:22you made things possible when they felt impossible.
- 2:26And I guess what's really strange is that we're just your
- 2:29babies, really. We're grown-ups, we have our own
- 2:32children, our own home, our own jobs and responsibilities and
- 2:36lives. But underneath all of that we
- 2:38are still your babies. And suddenly your babies had a
- 2:42baby who was sick. I don't think I really thought
- 2:46about what that must have been like for you.
- 2:49I was so busy being her mum, so busy trying to understand what
- 2:53was happening, trying to keep everyone going, trying to be
- 2:56there for her and for her brother and for my husband.
- 2:58I didn't always have the space to think about you, but you were
- 3:03watching, you were worrying and you were waiting for the phone
- 3:07to ring. And perhaps one of the hardest
- 3:09things for you was that you couldn't fix this.
- 3:12You couldn't make her heart different, you couldn't make the
- 3:15surgery unnecessary. You couldn't take away the fear
- 3:19and you couldn't take it away from me either, because I think
- 3:22that's one of the strange things about being a parent.
- 3:24Even when your children are grown up, you never really stop
- 3:28wanting to protect them. And perhaps you had to watch me
- 3:32go through something you would have done anything to spare me
- 3:34from. You had to watch your baby
- 3:36become frightened and then watch your baby become a mum who was
- 3:40frightened for her own baby. And somehow you still had to
- 3:43know what to do. I remember expecting that when
- 3:47you arrived at the hospital you would let me break.
- 3:51I thought I would see you and everything I'd been holding in
- 3:54would just come pouring out. Finally, someone I could lean
- 3:57on. Finally my mum.
- 3:59Someone who knew me before all of this.
- 4:01Someone who could just hold me whilst I cried.
- 4:05But I didn't. I couldn't.
- 4:10Sometimes that still feels strange to me because I had my
- 4:13mum there and I did feel safer because you were there.
- 4:17Somehow just knowing you in the hospital made the world feel a
- 4:21tiny bit less frightening, and knowing that my husband could go
- 4:26back to our other boy because you were there too meant I could
- 4:29stay where I needed to be. You gave us somewhere to put
- 4:32some of the weight, but I still couldn't put mine down.
- 4:37It was like being trapped inside some strange TARDIS of a
- 4:41hospital room. Everything was happening in
- 4:43there, and time had become completely distorted, and
- 4:47somehow I was both completely overwhelmed and completely
- 4:50unable to reach the emotion of it.
- 4:53I knew I was frightened. I knew I was heartbroken.
- 4:56I knew I should be crying. I wanted to cry, but I couldn't
- 5:00break down, not then, not properly.
- 5:02There was still a job to do. There was still a baby to watch,
- 5:07there were still doctors to listen to, questions to answer,
- 5:10and things to remember. So even when the people I loved
- 5:13most arrived, I had finally had somewhere safe to put it all and
- 5:18somewhere to fall, I just didn't.
- 5:22I stayed upright. I stayed functional.
- 5:27And I think that's something I'm only really understanding now.
- 5:30Sometimes safety doesn't immediately make you fall apart.
- 5:34I know that. I'm a psychologist.
- 5:35Sometimes you're so used to holding yourself together that
- 5:39even when someone finally offers to hold you, you don't know how
- 5:42to let go. And I think there must have been
- 5:45another kind of helplessness for you that I didn't really
- 5:48understand at the time. You didn't have all the
- 5:51information. You weren't in every
- 5:54appointment. You weren't hearing every
- 5:55conversation with the doctors. You weren't seeing every test
- 5:58result or knowing every number. You were getting it all through
- 6:01US. And I'm sorry if sometimes that
- 6:04wasn't enough. I know there were probably times
- 6:07when you did want to know more, when you wanted to understand
- 6:11exactly what was happening and I didn't have the energy to
- 6:14explain it or I didn't want to talk about it.
- 6:19Sometimes I just couldn't. And sometimes I didn't want her
- 6:23whole life to become a medical update.
- 6:26I didn't want every conversation about my baby to be about her
- 6:30heart, her oxygen, her surgery or what the doctors had said
- 6:33that day. She was still just her.
- 6:37She's funny, she's beautiful. She was kind of growing, she was
- 6:43learning things. She's our baby.
- 6:48And I wanted to protect that for her, but also for me, because
- 6:52every time I told the story, I had to go back into it.
- 6:56Every time I explained what happened, I had to remember it.
- 7:00And sometimes I needed to save my strength for the next
- 7:02appointment, the next procedure, the next difficult conversation.
- 7:07So I'm sorry, I am sorry if there were times when you felt
- 7:13shut out. It wasn't because I didn't trust
- 7:16you. It wasn't because I didn't want
- 7:18you to know. I was just trying to work out
- 7:21how much of this world I could carry and how much I could ask
- 7:24other people to carry for me. And perhaps you had to live with
- 7:28that strange distance too, knowing that something enormous
- 7:32was happening to your granddaughter, but having to
- 7:35wait for your daughter to tell you about it.
- 7:38Or your daughter-in-law, trusting that if something
- 7:41really important happened, we would tell you, but knowing
- 7:45there were probably whole pieces of it that you would never see.
- 7:50I'm sorry for that, but I hope you know that we were trying.
- 7:54We were trying to give you what you needed.
- 7:56We were trying to let you support us, and we were trying
- 8:01somehow to make sure that her life was still bigger than what
- 8:05was happening medically. I was trying to save some part
- 8:09of her childhood from becoming a story about hospitals, and I was
- 8:12trying to save some part for myself, too.
- 8:17And I know there was another complicated thing underneath all
- 8:20of this. I think at times I was angry,
- 8:24maybe even jealous, because it felt like the distress couldn't
- 8:29be yours. You didn't get to own all of
- 8:31this. You had to support us.
- 8:33You had to be strong. You had to tell us it would be
- 8:36OK. You had to worry about us
- 8:39worrying, worry about the children and somehow keep
- 8:41yourselves together. And I think there were moments
- 8:44when I needed you to be grandparents, not another person
- 8:48I had to look after. I needed to be able to fall
- 8:51apart without wondering whether you were falling apart too.
- 8:53I needed you to hold me. And I think I was sometimes
- 8:58angry when I could feel how much this was hurting you.
- 9:02But I know obviously that's not fair because you were grieving
- 9:08too. You were sad for your babies, us
- 9:12for me, for my husband, for what we were going through.
- 9:16You were frightened for your grandchildren, and you were
- 9:18watching your own child hurt in a way that you couldn't protect
- 9:21me from. You were carrying your own
- 9:25version of this story. You just didn't always have the
- 9:28luxury of putting it down in front of us.
- 9:32Perhaps that's what grandparents do sometimes.
- 9:36They carry some of their fear quietly because their children
- 9:38already have enough. You showed up anyway.
- 9:44Sometimes that meant taking, taking care of our boy when we
- 9:47couldn't. And I need to say something
- 9:49about that too, because we were so grateful.
- 9:52So, so grateful. Knowing that he was safe.
- 9:57Knowing that he was happy, or as happy as he could be in all of
- 10:01this. Knowing how much you were doing
- 10:04for him and how far above and beyond you were going.
- 10:07And we could focus on where we needed to be.
- 10:11You gave us permission to be with our baby.
- 10:14You let me know that my boy was OK, and that was invaluable.
- 10:21Sometimes, Oh my God, sometimes I was jealous too.
- 10:25And I feel almost guilty admitting that because you were
- 10:28doing exactly what we needed you to do and exactly what we asked.
- 10:32But then you would tell me something completely ordinary,
- 10:35that you'd had to go and get him new shoes because his didn't fit
- 10:38anymore, and it would feel like a stab to the heart because his
- 10:42feet had grown and I hadn't seen them grow.
- 10:46You were there when he needed new shoes.
- 10:49You were seeing the ordinary things that we were missing, and
- 10:52suddenly this tiny piece of irrelevant everyday life became
- 10:56a reminder that my son, our son, was growing up without us there
- 11:01to see all of it. I hated that.
- 11:05Not you, never you. I was just jealous of the time,
- 11:10jealous of the ordinary, jealous that someone else was getting to
- 11:14do the things that we wanted to be doing.
- 11:18And I think there was guilt there, too, because I knew you
- 11:21were giving me the most precious gift you could possibly give us.
- 11:24You were looking after our boys so that we could look after our
- 11:27girl. Both things were true.
- 11:30I was incredibly grateful, but it hurt.
- 11:35That's the strange thing about all of this.
- 11:36Two things can be true at once. Again, I know that as a
- 11:41psychologist, you can be grateful and jealous, relieved
- 11:46and heartbroken. You can know someone is doing
- 11:49exactly the right thing and still wish desperately that you
- 11:52were the one doing it. And I know you were frightened
- 11:55too. I wonder now how much of that
- 11:59you did keep from us. How many times you put down the
- 12:02phone after speaking to us and cried.
- 12:08How many times you waited for an update and tried not to imagine
- 12:11what was happening. How many times you told
- 12:16yourselves everything would be OK because you knew that we
- 12:19needed to hear that. I'm sorry if it didn't always
- 12:23see it. I think I was consumed by being
- 12:26her mum, that I forgot you were her grandparents and that you
- 12:29loved her too. Not just her, just all of her.
- 12:36Her face, her smile, her laugh, her strength, her ridiculous
- 12:40little personality. You got to know her through all
- 12:44of this too. And I think that's something I'm
- 12:48really grateful for, because amongst all of the fear and
- 12:51appointments and hospitals and everything that happened, she
- 12:54was still just your granddaughter, your beautiful,
- 12:57funny, tenacious little girl. And you all loved her.
- 13:03You loved her through all of it. And I want to mention the other
- 13:06people who helped us too. Your children are siblings, both
- 13:11doctors themselves, both invaluable in ways that are
- 13:14difficult to put into words. Matt's sister, so far away in
- 13:20Australia, but never really feeling far away when we needed
- 13:23her checking in, helping us make sense of things, giving us
- 13:27another pair of eyes and another voice when everything felt
- 13:31overwhelming. And my brother close by, who
- 13:36could be there in person, who came, who visited, who helped us
- 13:40understand what was happening When things became particularly
- 13:43complicated after her surgery, there was something incredibly
- 13:49comforting about having people who understood the medicine but
- 13:53who knew and understood us. People who could translate some
- 13:56of the language, who could help us ask the right questions, who
- 14:01could tell us when something was worse, what was worth worrying
- 14:03about and when perhaps it wasn't.
- 14:06And more than that, people who loved her.
- 14:10I felt very held by them. And you probably did, too,
- 14:16because sometimes you don't need someone to fix anything.
- 14:19You just need someone who understands the seriousness of
- 14:21it. Someone who can stand beside you
- 14:24and say, yeah, this is a lot, and then stay.
- 14:30And they did that for us. And I am so grateful.
- 14:34I think there's something very strange about becoming a parent
- 14:37and then years later, needing your own parents in a completely
- 14:39different way. You don't necessarily want to be
- 14:42looked after. You certainly don't want them to
- 14:44know how frightened you are. But sometimes you need them
- 14:47anyway. And you were there.
- 14:51You didn't make it about yourselves.
- 14:53You didn't ask us to reassure you.
- 14:56You didn't mean need us to make you feel better.
- 14:59You just loved us, and I think that might be what a village
- 15:03actually is. Not really people who live just
- 15:07down the road, not people who are there every day, but people
- 15:10who, when something really matters, show up.
- 15:14People who make you feel that even when the world has become
- 15:17frightening and unfamiliar, you're not standing in it alone.
- 15:21So thank you for loving our children, for loving us, for
- 15:28loving us even when we were exhausted and distracted and
- 15:32probably not very good at showing you how much we needed
- 15:34you. Thank you for being our parents
- 15:37whilst we were trying to be parents ourselves.
- 15:40And perhaps that's what makes all of this feel so strange.
- 15:44We became parents again and again over those last 18 months.
- 15:49But underneath all of it, we're still your babies.
- 15:53And I think I'll always be grateful for that.
- 15:55When we needed you, you remembered that you showed up.
- 16:01You held us in whatever ways you could.
- 16:05Thank you. Oh.
- 16:08Thank you so much again for an incredibly thoughtful, well
- 16:13written, beautifully read better, Catherine.
- 16:17I'm sure it will mean the absolute world to your parents
- 16:21and to your husband's parents to hear you saying those words.
- 16:26It is so true of grandparents that it's easy to forget that as
- 16:31adults, we are still their babies, and the love, fear,
- 16:36protection that we have over our own children will never stop, no
- 16:40matter how old they get. For all the grandparents and
- 16:44extended family members, this letter goes to you.
- 16:48That was letter four, and there are still three more letters to
- 16:53come, each one, each one written to someone who becomes part of
- 16:57Catherine's experience through all of those months.
- 17:01If you've been listening from the beginning, thank you so much
- 17:04for being here for this story. And if you're new to the series,
- 17:07I really recommend going back and listening to them in order
- 17:11if you haven't already. Make sure you find and press
- 17:15that volume buttons. You don't miss the next one.
- 17:18These letters were written by Doctor Catherine.
- 17:21Her social media is tagged in the show notes, so make sure you
- 17:24go and check out her page. We'll see you again tomorrow for
- 17:27the next letter. Sending you all my love, Lucy.