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NFL Week 16 Teams to FADE, College Basketball, Parlay of the Day & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Got two bowl games for you on Wednesday, the Cure
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  Speaker 1: Bowl and the Ventures Bowl. If you're looking to make
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  Speaker 1: money bet on either of those, You've come to the
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  Speaker 1: right place. This is the best betting show ever. Plus
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: we'll be talking some NBA and college hoops. I am
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: worse Brian Power sitting in for the pres once again.
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  Speaker 1: Last day, doing so, Joe, you got one more day.
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  Speaker 1: But let's go to Art to Caesar here over on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the counter to tell us how
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  Speaker 1: the money is moving, because we've got some big games
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, obviously in football, NFL Week sixteen, the College
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  Speaker 1: football Playoff, and as I mentioned, two bowl games tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Art, how are you. Let's hear how that money is moving?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, doing good, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously the NFL will start there New England ap Baltimore,
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  Speaker 4: obviously a really good game, big important game in the
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  Speaker 4: AFC playoff picture. We opened Baltimore two and a half
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  Speaker 4: total of forty seven. Total's been bet up forty eight,
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  Speaker 4: and we've seen a little bit of stream of money
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  Speaker 4: from the public on Baltimore. Baltimore now three on that game.
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  Speaker 4: Lions Steelers Lions at home. Obviously they are a juggernaut
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  Speaker 4: at home and they're coming off a lost Pittsburgh on
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  Speaker 4: the short week. We open the Lions six. They bet
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  Speaker 4: it there, they bet it at six and a half.
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  Speaker 4: We're now seven. On the game total went up from
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  Speaker 4: fifty and a half to fifty two. Just moved with
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  Speaker 4: the market there on that total. Nothing really sharp to report,
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  Speaker 4: and Brian, you had mentioned it yesterday and you're spot on.
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  Speaker 4: Troit's gonna be huge and all the money line parlays
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  Speaker 4: and the teasers, so we'll really need Pittsburgh in that game.
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  Speaker 4: And then the local team, the Raiders at the Texans.
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  Speaker 4: Look ahead line on this was like eleven and eleven
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  Speaker 4: and a half. It's now fourteen. Total of thirty seven
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  Speaker 4: and a half, and this is gonna be a tough game,
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  Speaker 4: not that you know, people are really gonna come in
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  Speaker 4: and bet this, but I think when we put up
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  Speaker 4: a Raider team total, we'll get hit there. They scored
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  Speaker 4: zero against Philly. It feels impossible that they can score
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  Speaker 4: anything against the Deuxans. So the Raiders are just so
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  Speaker 4: futured right now that, yeah, you might not be a
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  Speaker 4: lot of money line stuff or teaser stuff, even though
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  Speaker 4: there will still be some of that. But I think
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  Speaker 4: that they're gonna look other ways to fade the Raiders,
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  Speaker 4: and I think the team total is gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: big one on that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So how does it work art when we get
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  Speaker 5: to this time of year where more and more teams
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  Speaker 5: begin to get eliminated. We just saw Miami do it
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  Speaker 5: right now, They're gonna be going through all sorts of changes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: does it effect to handle with some of these Does
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  Speaker 5: the public come in automatically and start fading all of
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  Speaker 5: these teams that have nothing to play for who are
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  Speaker 5: just playing out the string And I know they don't
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  Speaker 5: tank in the NFL. Uh, But you know, how does
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  Speaker 5: the book see as far as the action goes these
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  Speaker 5: last couple of weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the public's interesting with some of these
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  Speaker 4: games where you might pick two teams that meet, you know,
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  Speaker 4: got nothing going on, nothing's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they've both been eliminated.
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  Speaker 4: What really happens is the handle just really goes down
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  Speaker 4: on those games and the public just stays away from
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: the games they want to come in late in the
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  Speaker 4: season and almost bet on playoff type of games like
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  Speaker 4: a New England in Baltimore games that have meaning not
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  Speaker 4: saying that those games don't get bet but you get
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  Speaker 4: a really low handle on some of those games that
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  Speaker 4: have the two meaningless teams, and they that's really left
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  Speaker 4: for the sharp Bettals guys who really come in and
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  Speaker 4: they you know, they've been riding with their numbers all
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  Speaker 4: year and they're going to find a way to either
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  Speaker 4: better quarterback change or you know, has the coaching team
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  Speaker 4: really given up you know, the old Teddy covers thing
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  Speaker 4: where you're looking at quotes, you know, and all that
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  Speaker 4: type of stuff. So you really start to see those
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  Speaker 4: angles from the sharper betters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned New England Baltimore are that is
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  Speaker 1: the Sunday night game of course flexed into the Sunday
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  Speaker 1: night spots. Baltimore's up to three put you on spot here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do we expect you know, obviously the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: they did lose last week, but before that had one
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  Speaker 1: ten in row. Do we expect maybe some sharp public
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  Speaker 1: whatever money coming in on the Patriots. Not that we've
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  Speaker 1: hit three in that game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting, we haven't seen it yet.
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  Speaker 4: And Baltimore despite their seven and seven record, they're still
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  Speaker 4: power rated through the roof. I mean, they still have
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  Speaker 4: a power rating almost like it's the beginning of the
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  Speaker 4: season for them. When as we all remember, when they
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  Speaker 4: lost that heartbreaker to Buffalo, their odds.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't go up, they went down.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, people still were like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: they had a bad quarter. It's still Baltimore. So Baltimore
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  Speaker 4: is still being treated that way. I know there were
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people who it was a wait and
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  Speaker 4: see approached with New England. Still same thing with you know, Denver,
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  Speaker 4: even though maybe the tides changing a little bit on Denver.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I think at some point we will see some guys
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  Speaker 4: that we respect just take the three because I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: I still am a believer of How can you lay
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  Speaker 4: points with Baltimore right now?
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  Speaker 5: Have you noticed their art? I mean, here we are
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  Speaker 5: heading into like week sixteen. How as you know we
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  Speaker 5: are at one point last year, remember the public was
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  Speaker 5: just cleaning up. It was favorites after favorites, and it
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  Speaker 5: was big favorites. It doesn't feel like it's been like
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  Speaker 5: that most of you know, at least over the last month,
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  Speaker 5: month and a half year. How are the books in
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  Speaker 5: general doing to this point through fifteen weeks, have you
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  Speaker 5: seen have we been hitting home runs for the books
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  Speaker 5: here lately? The public getting crushed?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, the public always has really nice
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  Speaker 4: outcomes early in the season. You know, after about three
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  Speaker 4: or four weeks, that's always when it such to turn
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  Speaker 4: for the public because, as you guys know, the keyed
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  Speaker 4: in guys, the sharp guys, they stick to their numbers,
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  Speaker 4: maybe don't adjust so quickly where the public's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this team's.
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  Speaker 3: Winning, we're gonna bet blah blah blah, all that type
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. But yeah, I mean it's been a better year.
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  Speaker 4: For us as far as the public go was because
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  Speaker 4: last year was maybe the best public year ever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean last year was insane, Yeah, with the public
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  Speaker 3: and the way they hit week in and week out.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely changed a little bit because it
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  Speaker 4: felt like the public was hitting ninety percent last year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they would rush us on moneyline parlays. It
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  Speaker 4: was unbelievable. We could never get a favorite to lose.
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  Speaker 5: YEP.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of Bowl games tonight are to take the
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  Speaker 1: hard right turn here. Obviously, these Bowl games are getting
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  Speaker 1: more and more unpredictable to handicap. Last night we had
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  Speaker 1: an opt out literally as the coin toss was happening,
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  Speaker 1: and it was, oh, the nation's lead pussure, thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much. Jacksonville State still won though, which was great.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got two Bowl games tonight. What if any
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  Speaker 1: action are we seeing on these two?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and they make them harder to handicap, harder to watch,
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  Speaker 4: and harder to book, you know, our perspective behind the counter.
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  Speaker 4: But Old Dominion South Florida. Early money was on Old
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  Speaker 4: Dominion sharp and plus six. You know, we got to
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  Speaker 4: as low as one and a half on the game.
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  Speaker 4: We're now three on the game. Total is really crashed
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  Speaker 4: on that game. Market has just continued to move towards
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  Speaker 4: the under on that. We opened as high as fifty six,
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  Speaker 4: now sitting fifty one and a half. Lafayette and Delaware
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  Speaker 4: is interesting. Uel Lafayette, it's really only been a half
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  Speaker 4: point move. You know, we had Lafayette minus three, they're
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  Speaker 4: now two and a half. But the total has been
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  Speaker 4: bet up by the sharps fifty nine and a half
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  Speaker 4: up to sixty two on that game. And I did
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  Speaker 4: say I would mention the FCS games, So I'll just
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  Speaker 4: give you a quick little piece on the FCS games.
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  Speaker 4: Illinois State at Villanova. We were three on the opener there,
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  Speaker 4: Illinois State, who's been the darling. They've had all the upsets,
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  Speaker 4: they've taken some money, so they're now catching two in
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  Speaker 4: that game. Villanova a two point home favorite. Remember the
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  Speaker 4: games are played on until we get to a championship game.
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  Speaker 4: They're played on home field of the team who is
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  Speaker 4: the higher seed. And then Montana State was three and
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  Speaker 4: a half, they're now four and a half in that game,
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  Speaker 4: and that is the game where the they're the two
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  Speaker 4: best teams on that side of the bracket, the two
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  Speaker 4: best teams left. That's pretty much being handled like the
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  Speaker 4: de facto championship game. Winner of that will be a big,
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  Speaker 4: big favorite in the final. So a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: fcx FCS action has come in, and as we get
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  Speaker 4: closer to games on Saturday, we will see even more
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  Speaker 4: because I don't think people really realize that these games
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  Speaker 4: are happening, and they wake up Saturday morning, they're in
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  Speaker 4: the sports book and they're.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh, there's some playoff games, so they coming in
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  Speaker 3: they battle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you said the handle has been better this
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  Speaker 5: year than maybe in years past, so you're certainly getting
• 8:26
  Speaker 5: a little bit of action there. As far as last
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  Speaker 5: night the NBA Cup, good game came down to it,
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  Speaker 5: Nicks ended up getting it done. How did the books
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  Speaker 5: do with that? Ultimately, because it is in your backyard,
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  Speaker 5: I'm wondering if you got any late push there with
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  Speaker 5: a big team like the Knicks. And it seemed like
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  Speaker 5: everyone public wise, once san Antonio beat Okac, it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of all we ever heard about heading into that game
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  Speaker 5: last night, and people forgot the Knicks were actually still
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  Speaker 5: playing in that game. How did the books do there?
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  Speaker 5: And are we seeing any sort of action college basketball
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  Speaker 5: wise today as well?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as the Cup goes show, it definitely
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  Speaker 4: saw a really good action. And you're right when that
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  Speaker 4: spread was, you know, two, two and a half three
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  Speaker 4: in that range. The money that came in on san
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  Speaker 4: Antonio was really all money line stuff. You know, people
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  Speaker 4: were like, hey, let's just take a shot with san
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  Speaker 4: Antonio on the money line obviously, which we normally don't
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  Speaker 4: do until we get to playoffs or we have marquee
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  Speaker 4: matchups during the regular season. We tried to put up
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  Speaker 4: a lot more props for the game because obviously you know,
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  Speaker 4: it is a cup, it's a championship game, all that
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  Speaker 4: type of stuff, So we tried to do that so
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  Speaker 4: we had a little bit more content for the people
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  Speaker 4: as far as that goes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the college. This is kind of a smaller
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  Speaker 3: slate today.
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  Speaker 4: There's really nothing that jumps out sharp wise, overnight wise
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  Speaker 4: to report.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say this about the Cup.
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  Speaker 4: I think the interest in it in town feels like
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: it's there, so I think that's a good thing. I
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  Speaker 4: know that there were talks of maybe they're going to
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  Speaker 4: move it all around now, try different venues, but I
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  Speaker 4: know for us in Vegas, we like having it here.
• 10:01
  Speaker 5: Did you get a big sharp push with a first
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  Speaker 5: quarter bet on the next last night? I know there
• 10:07
  Speaker 5: was some talk where, uh, somebody must have said, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what happened. Somebody must have mentioned something about
• 10:14
  Speaker 5: nix in the first quarter? Did were you did you
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: have to shut the windows down with that bet yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 4: No, what happened was we had to shut it the
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  Speaker 4: other way because they started coming in spurs first quarter.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, that total sense. Yeah, and that would have been
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: a window yeah, Like they knew the score. Yeah, they
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: were like, oh, this is a lock.
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  Speaker 3: We're taking it. Yeah, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of crazy the way that happens like that,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I met, I met Nick's full game.
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  Speaker 5: Joe, Oh, I have no idea what you're talking about,
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: No idea what you no? Maybe that's the referring to
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  Speaker 5: the parlay of the day. Maybe is that is that
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  Speaker 5: where we're at here? Oh, I think we know how
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: he did there. I'm fairly sat it are. I think
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  Speaker 5: you and I won our games by a combined one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and forty five points. And that first it was
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  Speaker 5: at first quarter. I can't remember first the first quarters. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: They're up like, look, they're up by three in the
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  Speaker 1: final minute, we give up a three and that we
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  Speaker 1: follow ten seconds left.
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  Speaker 4: Come on yeah, come on, yeah, we'll take a push
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  Speaker 4: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I would have taken it.
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  Speaker 5: Would I was.
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  Speaker 1: I would I was holding on for dear life. I
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: knew I had to come on here and face Joe Niary,
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  Speaker 1: my good friend.
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: Round robin of the day. Eric comes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you want me to see. I got a
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  Speaker 2: beauty for you Today's Joe.
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  Speaker 5: Please tell me wait, I can't all right, let me
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: just prepare everyone all right, here we go, all right,
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  Speaker 5: here we go?
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  Speaker 1: Uh so Art, this total has moved this morning, and
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: based on the matchup, I think this would have to
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: be sharp money because I don't think the public's bet
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  Speaker 1: in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Give me the under on Houston. Christian Nichols?
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  Speaker 5: What who huh?
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  Speaker 2: What?
• 12:08
  Speaker 5: What game is that?
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  Speaker 2: Christian Nicols? Is that a high school game? What is
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  Speaker 2: that strolled out?
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  Speaker 5: I'm still going here. It's it's the oh the extra
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  Speaker 5: extra board because that's yeah, yeah, you've seen a lot
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  Speaker 5: of action on that one. Art Right now, are people
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: running to the window on this? Let me see nooop?
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: Still can't find I.
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  Speaker 4: Will I will say this that Brian's right about those
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  Speaker 4: And in college basketball, totals always moved, you know when
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  Speaker 4: they're really bad by the sharp guys. You know, two, three,
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  Speaker 4: four points, those extra games you see the move six
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  Speaker 4: or eight points? Oh yeah, you see some wild moves
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  Speaker 4: and those extra games with those totals.
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  Speaker 5: Lobbit's all right, that's I'll take your word for it.
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  Speaker 5: How about it there, Art? How about you? Man? Where
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: are we going here tonight?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going Xavier at home against a Cretan team who
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  Speaker 4: has not been that great Xavior on the money line
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  Speaker 4: at home.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 5: I like it? All right, Well, I am going to
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  Speaker 5: go out west and I am going to take Oregon
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  Speaker 5: State at home against sam Houston State. I'll take Oregon
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  Speaker 5: State on the money line. I think they have they
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  Speaker 5: lay in two and a half or three. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we'll take them on the money line at home to
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: get it done against sam Houston State.
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  Speaker 1: All right, three college basketball plays for your here Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: on the best betting show ever.
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  Speaker 2: You can go three?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, well, I.
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  Speaker 1: Myself, Joe, remember so if I get it right, okay,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: fade or not, we're going to bring this segment back.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Back to back days we talked about, uh, some teams,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe that are kind of falling from the
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: upper echelon, so to speak. Today, I guess the plan is, Joe,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. We want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: I say we're gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Talk is gonna be wrong. They're gonna be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, we're going You're not talking about bottom beaters. We're
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: not talking about the bottom beaters. Okay, are these teams
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be corpses or not? Your Miami Dolphins, Joe Vernieri
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  Speaker 1: you're making a court Quinn yours. Yes, I believe you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing time.
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Is it over, guys? For the Miami Dolphins? Is it
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: more sync than swim? If you will, Joe, it.
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  Speaker 5: Feels like much like the Jets firing their defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days ago. It feels like, here are
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  Speaker 5: the chairs on the deck of the Titanic, and we're
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: just mixing them up real quick. Let's just rearrange them
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: because none of this is going to matter in the
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  Speaker 5: long run. Having said that, I'm wondering Art if that
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: locker room of the Miami Dolphins really believes Quinn yours
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  Speaker 5: gives him the best shot at winning a game, because
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: the other choice was Zach Wilson, and we already all
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: know how that would end up. So, but Quinn yours,
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: is that really makes Daniels call? Or do you think
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: that's coming from above just to see whether or not
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  Speaker 5: the third string emergency quarterback for most season is really
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: does give him the best chance to win this game.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're an absolute dumpster fire. Gotta fade him
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  Speaker 5: from this point on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. It's interesting because and I get it,
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Zach Wilson's been around, but he still was the number
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  Speaker 4: two overall pick. It was like, maybe you try to
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: kick the tires on him again, but now you're going
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: to a seventh round pick or rookie. Obviously, he doesn't
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: give them the best shot to win. And that feels
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: to me like it can't be McDaniel's call because to me,
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  Speaker 4: I know, they've had a nice little run here, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: he's still fighting for his job. They were kind of
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: in the mix here until obviously the Pittsburgh game. So yeah,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: it's hard to believe in anything the Dolphins are doing.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: You've seen that line shoot up to four and a
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: half now, I mean, you know, and it probably even
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: goes higher, you know, as we get closer to game
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: time here. So Miami is an ultimate fade here.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not buying the Dolphins, but I wanted to
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: throw another team at art, A team that I mentioned
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: yesterday that I am buying at least for this week,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: A team that is in the bottom.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, just Arizona Cardinals.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: This is a team that, despite their poor record, they
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: had been competitive most of the year.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: That was until the last two weeks.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: They run into the you know, arguably the best team
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: in the league in the Rams and then the hottest
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: team in the AFC, Houston Texans. Arizona getting points at
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: home this week against Atlanta art Atlanta is not a
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: team that wins back to back games, correct me if
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think they've done it year.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: So I feel like Arizona for this week only as
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: a team I would be looking to actually buy despite
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: their very poor one loss record.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the thing you'll see with Arizona
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: this week is they'll be popular on teasers. I think
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: you will see people tease Arizona up over the touchdown
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: at home. But this is another one of those games
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: that we had talked about where it's two bottom feeding teams,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: the seasons are over or what type of action are
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: we going to see on this game? This will probably
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: be one of the lower handled games of the week.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: But and I get it. They played the Rams and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: they played the Texans. There's no way I.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Can back Arizona this week.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I just I think this is a team that is
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: looking for their season to end, and it ended a
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Ago, So I don't know. Hard for me to put
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: my money on the Cardinals.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be sweating out
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: any unders with these two teams moving forward. And you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: look at the fact that Jacoby Brissett and Kirk Cousins
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: are playing for their next contract guys, So both of
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: these guys have a big incentive to put up some
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: points and you know, put some stuff on film here
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: because both and Cousins likely on different teams next year.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: So in those cases, I'd be looking at least to
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: be betting maybe team totals or something in the total
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: market with Arizona and Atlanta for that matter, moving forward,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: because both those guys their next contract depends on how
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: they finish out this year.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I would concur with that for sure. Right, Yeah, that's great.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: But I love tonight. That's great, that's good. That's good.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I know you're a year you're a year older, Joe.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: You know that's im bortant for you to get your sleep, buddy, yeps.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, it's and knowing that you concur is gonna
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: help me do just that. Just that. Yes, any other
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: speaking of dumpster fires, any uh anything, any other team
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: VP that you have found interest in that you think
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: we can.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about it. Yesterday.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints being favored is as bad as
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: your j E T s Jets. Jets Jets are right now, Jordan,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I I refuse to lay points with New Orleans Saints,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: especially more than a field goal.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I just won't do.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: It is winning contageous. So I mean, it's it's not
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: like they you know. That's the other thing that worries
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: me about trying to just fade New Orleans is the
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: simple fact that he they obviously haven't quit on him
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: like they are. They're playing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't want to take the Jets.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, let me clarify there, I'm not taking the Jets.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, but to Art's point about you know, a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: few games He's made this point on more recently Atlanta Arizona,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna probably be a pretty low handle game
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: with two when he got two teams in that echelon of.
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: The well, yeah, they're both crap playing crap here. But
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: there seems to be levels of crap here Art with
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: some of these teams. Like, I mean, I'm looking at
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: the hand, I mean, how the New Orleans is now
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: out the four and a half, like come on, like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: but you're playing the Jets and again, you know, winning
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: them guys are playing hard in New Orleans. I got
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: to give them credit. And there's a lot of guys
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: on that team also auditioning for our next season, so
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: that that's the that's the fine line this time of
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: year is to try to figure out, all, right, who's
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: got incentives right art at this time of year, who's
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: got contracts coming up? All that information is pretty valuable
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: here when trying to figure out how to bet these
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: bottom feeders, right, I mean, who's got the biggest motivation
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: here art to do well?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously the Saints these last couple of
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: weeks have shown they're going to play for Kellam Moore
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: and obviously won two games in the division, one at home,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: one on the road. And I mean obviously it's against
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the two teams who are fighting to win that division.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So give them all the credit in the world.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And we've talked, you know, at nauseum about how the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Saints have been very sharp this year as far as
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: these sharp betters have backed the Saints all year. But
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: despite that line moving up, it's not for us sharp action.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, they haven't wanted to come lay points with
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the Saints. They're normally in the mode of let's take
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: points with the Saints, and there's no one on the
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: other side now saying, hey, that number is getting too high.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: We got to take the Jets. So this might just
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: be one of those games the sharp stay off of.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know what you do either, be baby. Is
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I know what two teams shut out last week? Right?
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Raiders Bengals? Yes, okay, both those teams total garbage. We noticed,
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: but we also know I think this year alone, the
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: following game after teams being shut out, I think I
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: don't know if they've won, but I'm pretty sure they've
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: cut how much five.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And five and zero against the number teams coming off
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a shutout loss. And that's not just to this year,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: trying to if you go back, I think the last
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: twenty years. I did a video talking about that, it's
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: sixty seven percent. Wow, nor seven team's coming off of
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: shutout loss. And yeah, there's only been five instances of
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: instances of it previous to last week. But we've got
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: two teams this week. One of them is the aforementioned Raiders,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and woo uh that's that. That's a tough thing, even
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: for me Joe and you know that. I like to,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you know, talk to people like Art and say, is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: no one betting they're harder money on this team?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I'll take them.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Then the Raiders are that's a difficult bet to make
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: obviously this week. And the Bengals, you know, usually you
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: get a team off a shutout loss, they're an underdog.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Lot of points.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati, as we've mentioned, is taking money and they're a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: favorite on the road against quinn Ewers and the Miami.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Dolphins gonna be interesting. And that now four points I'm
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: seeing is what Cincinnati is laying on the road. Wow,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: is that that is pretty That's a little head scratching
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: here are we all thinking? By the way, that because
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: a couple of these teams here coming up, like Minnesota
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: and the Giants is another one that's interesting. I have
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: no idea what the Giants are doing continuing. At least
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Washington figured out, let's not put the future quarterback in
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: jeopardy anymore and get them killed and shut him down.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: How close are we to Jackson Dart are just being
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: shut you know, like, what are we playing for here?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Minnesota and the Giants? I get Minnesota, they're trying to
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: break in a new quarter. But it feels like they're
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: on a different level than what the Giants are, who
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: have no idea who the next coach is gonna be.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I'm not rowl In Jackson. Dart put Jamis back in
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: there and just finish the season and have some fun here.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: It feels like the Giants are a team I've got
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: to look to fade moving forward now.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're in limbo.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Like you said, who knows who the coaches? I mean,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: obviously they have found their quarterback. But you know, Dart
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: might just take himself out of the game by getting
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: a concussion.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he did it last week on the
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: goal line.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: He missed two plays and then he came back in
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and you know, played the fourth down play. But I
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: mean we might get to a point here where it's like,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: all right, he could play this week, but you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: maybe the last week of the season. We don't need
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: to risk anything here with Dart because you know, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: think if you're and I'm a Giant fan, I think
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: if you've seen Dart, you know what you have in him.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: You can now just move on to next season, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: hopefully secure another top top draft pick. Maybe the top
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: draft pick, and you know that's the way to move on.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: But you're right, I think Minnesota is still just trying
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: to figure a lot out about JJ McCarthy.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what are you think of BP? You faked either
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: of those teams moving forward or backing them.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I think Dart has been spending a lot of time
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: in the old Blue Tent Show.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I think I saw that in every game but two. Ya,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: he's had to go to Blue tenth. That's yeah, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: mean run out of bounds, yeah, is what I would do.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: The thing with the Vikings is now last week was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that I was on the Vikings Sunday night against the Cowboys.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That was the time to back them.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I always feel like the next week after a win
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like is not actually like I mean, I don't again,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I think we have a lot of these games right
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: where I obviously don't want to back the Giants at
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this point, but the Vikings after the two kind of performances,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a reason they're under five hundred
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: still and it is JJ McCarthy. So I'm not running
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to back the Vikings this week like I.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Was last interesting.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh there you go, man, I know, are there
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: any on Tennessee or we no matter who the quarterback
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: is for Kansas City guys or is Tennessee, is there
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: any redeeming value in backing Tennessee moving forward?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: There is one question I want to ask Art before
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: we let her go real quick, because I'm sure there
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: are people who are wondering this. Patrick Mahomes. Is he
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: still number one in terms of an individual player? What
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he's worth to the spread? We saw this number obviously reopen,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: way way lower than what the look ahead was. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: think it's what about it?
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I think right, yeah.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's an eight point difference than what
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: was eleven.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: And a half. Yeah, eleven eleven and a half was
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the open.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure we've got some viewers Art who are wondering,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: is Mahomes worth more to the spread than any individual
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: player in the NFL?
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: On the road too?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: No?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Less? Yeah, on the road.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: And as I mentioned yesterday, Sharps did take Tennessee at
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: plus four. Now we're seeing the threes. To me, Mahomes
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: is still in the top two or three. To me,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: it's Josh Allen. I think he's the number one.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Is there any is there any reason to back or
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: look to back Tennessee art moving outside of Kansas City
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: because just because the number, is there any redeeming value
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: with Tennessee, who was again in limbo here trying to
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: play out the string it with a rookie quarterback that
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: they're gonna get killed at some point here.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think Tennessee wants to play hard though
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: they don't need the number one pick. They did that
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: last year. Obviously, they'll probably be a coaching change here.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: But even last week, and I know they ended up
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: getting really killed by San Francisco, but it felt like
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: they didn't give up in the game. You know, they
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: couldn't stop San Francisco, but they kept playing hard on
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: offense score twenty four points. Maybe San Francisco was laying
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: off a little bit, but it felt like they weren't like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: all right, we're gonna lose thirty five to three and
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just go home, like they continue to play. So I
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: think that's going to be the case their last couple
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: of games, and this week, despite no Mahomes, this is
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: their super Bowl.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: They have the.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Chiefs at home. It's still the Chiefs, it's still the team.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: It's been great this last decade. So I think they're
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: gonna really want to win this game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: You're back. You like Tennessee here a little bit, Well, you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Can't be Tennessee at this number.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think at least maybe I don't know who
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: knows he's still in the first quarter.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: What do you think that's out of your alley? Now
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: we're talking.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We've we've still got what ninety six hours still kick off.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I could be, I could be talked into a lot
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of things. Quite frank.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Markets are, by the way, I mean, are there any
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: as far as the future markets go with some of
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: these teams? Are we starting to see? Because it feels
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: like we keep flip lying like Buffalo keeps getting love
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Baltimore keep you mentioned Baltimore is still power rated. Anybody
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: taking flyers either to College Football Championship or the NFL
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: at this point for to win it all because it
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: feels in the NFL anyway, like it's wide open. And
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: you got people bitching the moaning on whether Ohio State
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: should still be the favorite to win it all after
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: they lost to Indiana, which I find hilarious.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Well, quickly on the college or higher States still should
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: be the favorite. But you know, the money that's really
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: come in on that has already been bet, Like, it's
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: not right. We're not really seeing people jump into the
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: future book there. You know, maybe some people who are like, oh,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I just want to have a ticket on Texas Tech
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: or Miami, but you know they've missed their number, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: weeks and weeks ago. As far as the NFL goes,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: this is as wide open as I can remember.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: It feels like.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: All these teams in the top three or four seed
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: wise in both conferences have taken money, even the Eagles
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: here this last week.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: You know, really, I know.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: People still believe in Seattle, but now you got the Rams.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Okay Adams is herb Phoka got banged up a little bit.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: What's gonna happen there?
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: The Eagles still have that team that goes to the
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl like every other year.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So you've seen a little bit there.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: And I always say about the AFC New England, who
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: they've taken a little bit of money.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say they haven't.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: But Denver people still don't want to bet them, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: it's still the top dogs. And before Kansas City got
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: knocked out, they were still taking money. So you still
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: saw the money come in on the Chiefs and obviously
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the Bills and obviously the Ravens, and obviously the narrative
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: with Buffalo here is if they don't make the super
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Bowl this year in this AFC, when are they ever making.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: The super Bowl?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: So I think you've really seen that with Buffalo. They
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: to me are the team that we are going to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: have probably the biggest liability on going into the playoffs.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Going especially with pp who with your flyer be on
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: if you if you were betting it right now, who
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: would you take a FLYFC the whole thing, Houston hoton?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Really, I think with that defense you can stay in
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: any game with that, I think. Yeah, there's a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: of questions about the offense, particularly upfront in front of
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the line, But I am Houston right now on a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: neutral field power Raiders the number one team in the AFC.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Slightly. I had a Buffalo leader.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Wow you are let me ask you here? Are just
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: here that first quarter? Yeah? That's it?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Behind me?
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah you go? Holy God, all right, one final one
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: RT before we get you out of here. Miles Garrett
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: one sack away from tying the record one and a
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: half away from getting the record. Does he even get
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: the Josh Allen? Do you think this week?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Man? That's a tighten of a matchup between those two guys.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I will twice he's faced them, and I think he
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: only has one sack in those two games against Josh.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I think, like most quarterbacks, he's smart enough to recognize
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: where Miles Garrett is on the field. But he's also
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the one guy who's big enough, fast enough and strong
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: enough to maybe get away from Garrett.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: So I'll say no, but he won't get the record.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: He will get the record. Does he get it against?
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: You think he gets it against? What? Do you think
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen? There? VP? If I was a betting.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't think he's gonna get the record this week.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: He'll get there eventually, but not this week.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: I don't think he gets it at Josh all.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: He's not playing Brett Fahr, who's gonna slide for it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Yes, don't even bring that up. Yes, I remember that,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: ye straight hand, what a chump? And I was gonna
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: say that was about as cheesy as a guest there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: That's how it was. What else you got going on
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: over at the West Gates art so we can get
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: out of here and then have to listen to BP.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: He's been prepping for this college basketball rundown since we
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: stopped the show yesterday. It's like he's got notes, he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: got everything. So what do you got going on over there?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Rock?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Listen?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Obviously it's full season, it's you know, end of the
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: NFL season, so a lot is happening, a lot of games,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff we're booking day in and day out.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: And listen tomorrow show.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be great because obviously we're gonna
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: talk about that huge Thursday night matchup, which I really
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: look forward to jumping in on. Obviously Rams and Seahawks.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I want to have a lot more to discuss tomorrow
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Boom there is all right, thank you as always tomorrow
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: and now here we are again.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: We then part of the show just.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: A few more minutes that it's all over this. You
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: know this nothing here that's completely I did.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy, by the way, yesterday, as I watched
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: back on the show, I always id like to evaluate
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: my performances here on the way to talk to YouTube.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Please guys, if you enjoy what you're seeing, Smash right there.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But you did your credit to you. You did leave
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: in me calling you an asshole at the end of
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the show. I appreciate that's how the show ended, but.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Really, yes, I don't know how that happened. I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: know how that would have left in there. Usually I'm
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: I'm good at eliminating most things value.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But yes, I thought you were going to cut it off.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So is it is it time? Are we doing the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: bull bet or is it time for business? It's time
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: for some business. And by the way, guys, Prez will
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: be back tomorrow making his long return.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: From the slopes one time. Is you're really pushing your luck? Pres?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: We hope you're okay, And thank you Pres for letting
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: me sit in your chair here and I.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Host the show with Joe. It's been great. It's been
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of great week. It's been all right. Time
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: for some business, Joe. We did win our first bullpick
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: last night on Jacksonville State. It was two and one overall.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: On Tuesday, did lose the five dollars play, which is
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: very frustrating. I tweeted about it this morning. Right State
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was the wrong side, so to speak, against Miami, Ohio
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: in college basketball. It's a bet, Joe, though you know
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: me the way I bet, I'm gonna make it ten
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: times out of ten. You have a team who was
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: dead last and luck rating at Ken Palm facing an
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: undefeated team that was three hundred and sixty fourth in
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: strength of schedule. It was just three point variants doomed
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: us in the first half on Right State, but we
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: did thankfully make it up with not just Jacksonville State
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in the bowl, but with Tennessee also as a smaller
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: play in college hoops overday, they had no problem with
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Louisville whatsoever. So two and one overall last night. We
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: are now sixty seven percent in college football, Joe, going
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: back to November first, So beyond lookout for those bowl plays,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: be on the lookout for my NFL. I've already got
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a play up for the big Thursday game that Art
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned Seahawks and Rams. It is a four percent best bet.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Not only I hit sixty seven percent in college football
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: since November one, we're sixty seven percent with NFL all
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: NFL sides and totals the last five weeks, and eighty
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: percent in the NBA. Going back to last year's tremendous
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: playoff run sixteen and four last twenty selections, and I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: have a four percent best bet tonight Joe in the association.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Ooh, exciting stuff there, BP all right, good deal locked
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: in loaded for two games already in the NFL on
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Sunday this week, so those are available over at wager
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: talk dot com. Will have As a matter of fact,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: I think I've got one big college basketball play here tonight,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: likely one more and maybe a bowl game or two
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: their VP. I'm going to start posting up because I
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: think we have hit the pinnacle of the market and
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: what we're going to see in some of these pricing.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: So now would be the time to pull a trigger
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: on a couple of these games coming up.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a bulpick actually for today posted
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: for free. I went over it last week on wager
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Talk today.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: You can check that out WT dot buzz slash PP.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And I would be remiss if I did not mention
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Joe number one in soccer going back to a ple
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I know you're on Fulham last Saturday
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: with me, so thank you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Very Oh yes, yes, yeah man. When it comes to Boondesliga,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: nobody and I mean nobody six one six one ye
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: two different countries to make a difference, same sport. Yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: kicking the ball. All right, let's talk about the college
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: football bowls, shall we.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I guess we're each going to offer up a bowl
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: bet to the people little parameters here, mister and area.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: You always set the agenda for the show. How far
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in advance? Is this something that's got to be here
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: in the next forty eight to seventy two hours.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Any bowl game that you would like to break down
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: in sixty seconds is all yours, Pete.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: All right, well let's go. You know what, guys, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: hope you have a merry Christmas and everything. But let's
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: fast forward to the New Mexico Bowl on December twenty seventh.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be North Texas taken on San Diego State.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: North Texas. Joe. I've mentioned this previously on the Wayge
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Talk YouTube. Joe, this is a team that I just
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: want to fade. I can't imagine they're all that enthused about.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Being in this bowl. They were one win away from
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: They lose the American Championship Game at Tulane thanks to
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: five turnovers. They're head coaches leaving. This just seems like
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the mother of all flat spots. And
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: San Diego State Joe, as you know Mountain West team,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: they're accustomed to playing in Albuquerque, which is where the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: New Mexico Bull takes place. They play you know, New
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Mexico every year. So and don't think for a second
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: if the ASTAC players forgotten the last time they went
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to Albuquerque. They lose to New Mexico in the regular
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: season failure it cost him a spot in the Mountain
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: West title game. I think San Diego State guys is
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: ready to roll. I think North Texas doesn't care. Motivation
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: is so key to handicapping these bowls. So give me
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the Aztecs on twelve to twenty seven against North Texas
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: New Mexico Bull. Like that.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Like that a lot, Actually, BP, I will probably never
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: say that again. I'm gonna go to the game tonight
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: and listen. I really wish this game would have featured
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: both quarterbacks for Old Dominion and South Florida, but unfortunately
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Joseph Colton and Byron Brown not playing also the entire
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: while the OC and most of the offensive staff also
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: out for South Florida and they have got a quarterback
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: that's got a ton of experience. Now, actually he doesn't
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: have any experience, and I think he has thrown for
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: forty yards on twenty one pass plays and relief this year.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Gaston Moore is your quarterback for South Florida. That is
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: not going to work. In the meantime. You also have
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: a quarterback that does, in fact, for ODU have a
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: lot of experience and loves to run the ball, which
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: is why if you can still get fifty threes and
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: there are some available, take the under in this game
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: here tonight they will take the air out and they
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: will be running, running, and running some more with Old
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Dominion and South Florida tonight, agree with the move to
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: the under.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Two bowl bets, one for tonight, one for the future.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know if I'll again before Christmas.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: There you have it for me, something to look forward
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to in the future. Ten days in advance, Joe, that
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: game takes place December twenty seven.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Like it all right? How about the college football basketball party?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: College basketball?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Which is this is always my job here, I guess
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: when I'm on the show to do so, let's set
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: that timer and go all right. I already told you guys,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I like the under in Houston Christian Nichols. Now, let's
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: talk about some games you may actually want to watch.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Saint Francis pa is at number twenty three Florida. Have
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you seen the spread for this game, Joe ran Aire,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Florida is laying forty five and a half.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: No, thank you.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I know Saint Francis is bad, real bad, number three
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one and Ken poond bad. But the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Red Flash have not lost by more than forty one
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in any game this season. Now that's not to say
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: this game is gonna be close.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It won't be. I think Florida's gonna score.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: It will even with that scrutinized backcourt, Joe, and I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: know you follow this. The Gators backcourt, Zavian Lee in particular,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the transfer has really struggled. There's been poor three point
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: shooting for the Gators, but they've got a massive size
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: edge in this game. We're talking about a team that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: number four in offensive rebound percentage, so it should be
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: plenty of second chance opportunities for Todd Golden's team. Saint
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Francis has scored at least fifty seven in every game
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the season.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: My leen would be towards the over.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: How about a five pm Eastern tip in the Missouri
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Valley Northern Iowa against Illinois Chicago. Northern Iowa was good,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: best team in the conference, top twenty five defense raiding.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: No one's cracked seventy in regulation against the Panthers of
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the season. That being said, lank points on the road
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: can always be tricky. Joe Ranaii even to a u
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: C team that's dropped four straight. A lot of those
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: losses for UIC have been close, three of them by
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: three points or fewer. Northern Iowa doesn't get a lot
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: offensive rebounds. I would consider taking the points there. Creighton
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and Xavier aren't mentioned this one. Creighton stinks this year, guys. Meanwhile,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Richard Patino has seemed to figure out at Xavier. Musketeers
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: have won at five, have won five in a row.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Make it six.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Tonight, Vandy unbeaten laying a big number though at Memphis.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Say what you will about Penny Hardaway, Joe, He's usually
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: pretty good as a dog. Before they ran into Louisville,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Memphis last time out, they were four to zero catching
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: points against the spread, so I could only take the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: points there. Middle Tennessee needs a win, by the way
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: against Kennesaw State home game for the Blue Raiders. They've
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: lost three the previous four. USF's gonna play right in
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Alabama's hands by playing fast and shooting a lot of threes,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: so Alabama probably names the score there. And then Georgetown Marquettes.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Marquette's taking money here. They're two
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: eating one against the spread off back to back twenty
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: plus twenty point losses. Georgetown's not been great at the
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: betting window either. But Ed Cooley he noted he hasn't
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: beaten you're talking about quotes. Ed Cooley made it a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: point to say, we've never I've never beaten Marquette. I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: think I would take the points with the hoy.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Is in that one. I like it. Yeah. Now, Marquette
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: has been absolutely awful. We've talked about that one, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I can't figure out why they're taking money either.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Their PP great job.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: We are like two games, all right, settle down, We've
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: only got two games here in the NBA, So let's
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: start with your BP Cleveland Cavaliers, who suck lately, Like
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: what is going on? With the Cleveland Cavaliers now the
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: only saving grace here. By the way, they are three
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: three wins out of their last nine games. That's not
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: really great. In fact, I believe three out of the
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: last four at home, and BP has been intended in
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: attendance in these games. They've been booed like the Cleveland
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Cavalier fans are booing this team right now, and well deserved.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Hinko three and six in your last nine, I'd expect
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: anybody to take you seriously.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: The good news is they're taking on the Chicago Bulls,
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: who are well, maybe even worse here. They've lost eight
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: of their last nine games. They just can't seem to
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: get it going, not only defensively but offensively. These are
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: two teams struggling right now, which likely means look at
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: that total, that's total hovering around two forty two to
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: forty two and a half. I don't know. I mean
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Mobley's out, We've got some injury concerns here on Cleveland.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I don't think we're gonna get a whole lot of defense.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: It feels like more offense than anything else here. I'd
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: look at the over in that game tonight and then
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: You've got Minnesota at home taking on the Memphis Grizzlies,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: who I don't know. Look like they're about that. They're
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: trying to put back to back wins together for the
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: first time in forever. If I can only remember who
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Memphis beat over the Also, yeah, that would have been
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: the Clippers. That's right. Ja Moran's second game back and
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: they did get it done. Looks like he'll be available
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: in this one. But you gotta love what you're seeing
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: from Minnesota. They have really kicked it in to another
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: gear now. I think they have won eight of their
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: last nine games, and they finally learned how to close
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: games out in the fourth quarter here, which is going
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: to be pretty important moving forward. It feels like maybe
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: more points are coming in this one too, to total
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: two twenty nine and a half two thirty. I like
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: the over in both these games here tonight beat Pete.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: The over in both?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, a small NBA card here on Wensday. Things I
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: believe get going proper.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow in the Association with a full card.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So there you go, guys, full college basketball rundown, full
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: NBA runner, Share.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: With us, Why don't you In the comment section.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: What you like tonight, whether it's ooops, the Bowl games,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: keep those comments coming. It has again been a joy
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to be on this show now the last week or so.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I know you feel the same, Joe and I think
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: on that. Now, let's close with a very special mail
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: bag because you know we've covered a lot of this.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You know, we've clarified some things this week. Number one,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: this is my real hair. We've been We've been through
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: important real hair, real hair. Okay, but there seems to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: be some consternation in the comments section where people think,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: you know, you and I, this vitriol is real. They're like, man,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: these guys I hate each other, really, they really hate
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: each other. So Joe, I would like you just to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: do us all a big favor here. Set the record straight. Okay,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you what I we're really good friends when the camera
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: goes off, aren't we.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: Tell no, no, no that that could not be further
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: from the truth of BP. In fact, honestly, you, you
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: and I have uh yeah, we we don't really see
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: I I, although I do think you're number one in
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of categories, uh BP, but friends, Yeah, that's
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: using it a little bit loosely. But I do appreciate
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: you taking the time to hang out here with us.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: That's got to count for something, right, I mean, that's
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: got to be the appreciation level somewhere along those lines.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: But friends, Yeah, Well, just couldn't find anybody that could
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: replace the Pres when he is off skiing, and that
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: had that same level of what's the what's the crudy?
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Tell what what? What is that I'm I'm looking you
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: know that has that same No, no, no, that's that's
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: a strong word. It's doucheiness. That's the word I was
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: looking for. Yes, has that same level of douching. This there,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: but uh yeah, I think we found it with you, though,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: And it's been a pleasure. I've enjoyed every minute this
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: week with you, every minute. That's harsh, man, That is
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: a little it was.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: It was a little harsh. I should have expected.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: We can't. We love Brian, don't you guys? Get your
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: we go? I love BP. Yes we do now we do?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, all right?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Quote the once popular the show Game of Thrones, Joe,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I believe my watch has ended here now. I will
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: be back at some point, but it will not be tomorrow.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: As the Pres again returns A nice Thursday night football
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: game they'll be talking about. Of course, you guys can
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: catch me all over Wait, you're talking channel and of
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: course WT dot buzz slash PP is where to find
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: all of my premium selections than yes, very much.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: We'll get it PP. It's been a pleasure, really is we.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Let's do it again sometimes.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: You too, Joe. It's great, no one else.
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Let's catch those tickets tickets one