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Dragnet: The Big Knife (EP1580) · Great Detectives of Old Time Radio Volume 2|Mystery Audio Dramas

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Detectives of Old Time Radio. Well, now it's time for today's episode of
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Dragnet. The original airdate May the eleventh of nineteen fifty and the title The
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Big knife. The story you are about to hear is true, only the
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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a detective sergeant. You're
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a signed the Juvenile Bureau. The potential killer roams the halls of one of
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the high schools in your city. Girls students are then brutally slashed by the
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criminal. Your job stop him the documented drama of an actual crime. While
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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you
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will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case
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from a police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.
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Dragnet is the story of your police force in action. It was Thursday,
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November fourth. It was windy in Los Angeles. We were working the day
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watch out of Georgia Street Juvenile Bureau. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss
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is Captain Bowling, Commander Juvenile Division. My name is Friday. It was
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two forty five pm when we got to Charter High School main entrance. Which
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way is you? I don't know. We can ask this boy, hey
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son, Yeah, where's the Principal's office? Straight down the hall? Last
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during the last thank you, what's all the noise about football rally. We're
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playing Pemont today, probably lose. Can't lead confidence like that. It's just
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your clenty now there yeah, check that sign junior prom daughter twenty five per
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cup. Lets you feel old and when you never did go to those high
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school dances. I'll come. I couldn't dance after the still can yes,
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sir? Like say mister Chase Friday, Oh, yes, expecting you can
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go round? Thank you, mister Chase. Yeah, my name is Friday.
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I talked you on the phone. Yes, certainly, have a chair.
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Thank you. It's my partner, Ben Romo. How do you do
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sir? H I'm miss Jay. Sit down, sit down, certainly.
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Glad to see you, gentlemen. I'm at the end of my rope.
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Would you mind briefing? It is mister Chase. I'll always troubles start.
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I don't know how it's happened. I don't know why, but here's the
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results. I do this dress, bloodstains on it. Let's history. The
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woman Storm didn't hear and said her daughter came home from school, yes,
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to be wearing this dress, and she told her her mother she's a knife
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here at the school. How many cases like this have you had twenty one
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in the past three weeks. Why didn't you know to leave me? Sage?
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And I didn't know which way to turn. When I first learned about
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these knife things, I wanted to call in the police, but some of
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the girls who had been cut, the parents didn't want to reported the publicity.
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That not the rioting. They didn't want it. Don't realize, mister
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Jason, it's a pretty serious mind, Believe me, I did realize.
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What could I do? The knifings had to be stopped. These parents didn't
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want them reported. I've tried everything humanly possible to find out who's responsible.
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What have you tried, mister Chase Well, I called on some of the
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older students from the Boys' council. I placed them all over the grounds of
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the buildings and told them to keep an eye off. No results, and
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the knifings have gone right on this past week. They've even gotten worse.
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Or that reminds me of just a moment pleased it. Yes, mister Chase
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Darris, would you get Jim Travis please have them come to my office right
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away. Yes, mister Travis is head of the boys Council. He helped
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organize the system of guards. He might be able to give you some information.
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You said a minute ago that the situation has been worse this past week.
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I mean the NiFe things have gotten more frequent, more frequent, and
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more serious. One girl would cut very badly this morning. You have to
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be sent home. Most of these girls cut in pretty much the name man.
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The school nurse treated some of them, she says. It look to
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her as though that if the girls have been slashed with a very sharp knife,
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probably a razor. Is there any definite time patterns of these knife Is
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all of them happened between periods when the students change classes. The cards are
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pretty well crowded, and that's why it's so difficult to pin it down to
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any one person. I see. How about the victims themselves, mister Chase,
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Is there any set pattern there? And that's what has me frighten?
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What I mean, most of the victories a lot of pretty girls. Whoever's
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doing this seems to have a preference for them. It's frightening when you think
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of what kind of mind the person must have. It's a little more than
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frightening, mister Chase. Person with a knife must be a metal case,
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probably a dangerous one. I don't think he's going to be satisfied with just
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knife and the girls. Surely possible if we let it go much longer.
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You want to see me, Missus Jakes, come in, Jim for what
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have comes sooner? I'm tied up with a rally committee and Jim, missus
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Sergeant Friday and Sergeant for Meroral of police officers right, and they had to
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investigate the Knight things. I thought maybe you'd be able to help out with
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some information. Well, I still have the fellows on the council watching the
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cards. You haven't seen anything yet. We do you have any time after
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the rally gym? We'd like to have you show us around. Okay,
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soccer. He's the school nurse stt in your office. I like to go
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for her too, and I think so, Jid. When does miss Wesley
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go home three thirty on Thursday, mister Chase, I'll tell her to stay
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on a few answer. That's fine. We'll meet you outside the office here.
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Okay, I'll see you later then, right? The school out for
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the day, Yes, you do, I guess we'll have to wait the
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morning to interview the victims in the first class is at eight o'clock. I'll
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have the girls assemble in the classroom next to my office. All right,
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mister Chase, thank you. I'll be right back. Gus see you gentlemen.
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On it's like the rallies just breaking up. Ruh, three o'clock and
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the games are three things kids thirtainy exam up the carding let us oh my,
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the rest of you go about your business. Go on, now,
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what's the matter of young lady? What's the troll? Look at her dress?
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An ambulance was called and the injured girl was taken to Georgia Street Receiving
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Hospital, where she was treated for a cut on her right forearm and a
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deep slash across her hips. She was not the serious condition was the doctor's
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opinion that the wounds had been inflicted either by a very sharp knife or more
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probably a razor. A detail of plain clothesmen were dispensed to chart her high
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school, to keep the grounds and quarters under stick surveillance and so further notice.
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At seven point thirty the next morning, policewoman Lorraine Jensen Ben and I
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met at the high school with Principal Chase and Jim Travers, the head of
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the boys' council. By nine am, all of the twenty one knifing victims
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were assembled in one of the empty classrooms. Police women jents and outlined our
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plan of questions. May I have your attention? Please? This isn't going
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to take very long, girls, so I will have to ask you to
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co operate with us. Try to remember every detail of the time and the
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place that the not things occurred. We all have a report formed you,
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Rita. We'd like to have your ride. Three things. First, exactly
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where you were when you were injured. After that, rite the date and
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the time. Make that just as close as you can. Remember. The
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bottom of the page right the name of the person you suspect might have cut
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you. Your answer will be kept confidential. Please don't compare notes with the
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girl next to you. We watch your virsion, not to your neighbors.
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Yeah, five minute morning now, yeah, okay, all right, yeah,
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Joe, there's a recess coming up. We want to check the quarters
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and you make out alone for a little life. I'm sure you to go
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ahead. You can check the slips when you get back. Let's go.
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Yeah, the top of the stairs is best, sergeant. Okay, if
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you stand back a lope from the railing. No one down below me chelf
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of being watched either. Okay, I'm pretty much interested in police work,
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you know, the light detecting stuff. Keep one going here. One wrote
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a paper once on the lighter detective box. Was the onlogy grass tead?
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You liked it? So? Yeah, I've been reading how they take fingerprints
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off and prints and all that. Pretty interesting. Here we are. You
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can keep an eye on the whole car that here. Okay, what detail
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you lobsters work on a Judge street, you know Lee Jones or a great
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thinker. I've read a lot about the crime when once you come downtown,
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some left and then we'll show you wrong. I'll be swell. Okay.
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Must be interesting meeting all kinds of people watching out the behavior. Yeah.
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During the recess, while the students moved from classroom to classroom, we kept
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the main quarter on the close surveillance. The other men from Juvenile Bureau covered
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the rest of the quarters. We kept an eye on the main quarter during
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the third recess between periods. At eleven am, again no results. At
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eleven thirty, Travers went to check with the members of the Boys' Council to
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set up the noontime watch then and I went back to the classroom on the
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main Florida check with police woman Jensen. We helped your tally the results of
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the questioning of the girl victims that morning seventeen eighteen nineteen. Who who takes
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care of the lads? I see there? It is? Now, what's
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it mean? Or twelve? Say they were knifed on the main quarridor three
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knife outside the building or on the stairway, two in a classroom at times
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in this doesn't fact there's any pattern? Then how about the suspects that they
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looked out? That's even got me beat. You've got more of them than
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we have victims. Here there's four pages of names. Some of the girls
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wrote down as many as five. Sustay, that's help that our many all
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together. Let's see pretty four? Oh I missed? Kay? You find
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out anything well? Didn't turn out too well? Nothing? Definitely terrible morning.
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Parent's calling up the new status. Certainly out of my hands. Are
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there any assembly scheduled for this afternoon? Yes, after the fifth period?
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Why I think maybe a better cancel it. It seems like every time the
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kids are crowded together, we just ask the trouble. All right, I'll
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have a can signed something else of it in case the girls that we had
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in this room this morning, the victims. We'd like to have every one
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of them brought back here after the next class. All right, so I'll
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have a swift sent to each morning. Thank you gives are the child those
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kids getting cut up in broad daylight? Whoever it is, the guy's got
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a stomach for it. How do you know it's the guy? Just good
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a guess as any How about the school employees, the janitors them, check
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them all out, the tony. When we get the girls back here,
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we go through the same routine. One thing we missed the last time we
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talked to him. Yeah, we asked him to pick suspects. We might
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have more lucky if we have a bigger choice. Well, how do you
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mean, well, instead of asking him to pick out somebody, we'll tell
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him the list of names of every person who was around them or near them
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when they were cut and might work if we just bought a couple of repeats
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on the last they would you downstairs? Honey? Come on, man,
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what's the matter? I found her? To found who? They probably square
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downstairs? Unconscious? I'm afraid. What do you mean you're afraid. I'm
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not sure she's alive. We located the unconscious girl in the corner of the
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basement near the rear entrance to the girl's locker room. She had been tout
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severely about the face and arms at Georgia's Great Receiving Hospitals who have given an
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immediate blood transfusion. In additions were wounds. She was also fitted for shot.
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We questioned the victims. She stated that she did not see the person
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who attacked her. Later that afternoon, she was removed to her own home
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upon to her family position one five pm. Then I got back to the
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high school and checked in with a policewoman, Lorraine Jensen. I'm the last
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station. Turned out ray a lot at it. It was a good idea,
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Jim, Yeah, how would come out pretty good? You have a
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listen made twenty one of them. Each girl listed an average of eight persons
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around at the time. She was nice. Yeah, it's one name that
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occurs on nineteen twenty one. There they Joe Jim Travers. You are listening
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to Dragnet. The case history of a police investigation presented in the Public Interest
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Friday, November fifth PM. Then and I started checking on Jim Travers in
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the registrar's files. He was listed as James Kirkland Travers, seventeen years old.
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He was a well known, popular student. It was a fine athlete.
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He was from a well to do family. His father was the head
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of an engineering firm. His mother was from one of the oldest families in
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the city. During his three and a half years at Chiter High, Tim
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Travers had maintained close to an A average in his studies. He'd been president
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of his class in his freshman year, and he had held numerous other class
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offices. We interviewed his teachers. They had nothing but praise for Travers.
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They tabbed him as a brilliant young man with an excellent future. We asked
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about Traver's friends, who we powered around with. He picked up a small
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lead. We were told that he had very few, if any, close
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personal friends among the students, but he did have one girl of the high
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school he was especially fond of. Her name was Barbara Ferris, a tall,
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dark haired girl, exceptionally pritty. Her scholastic record was almost as high
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as Travers. Two PM policewoman Lorraine Jensen and I interviewed the girl in the
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off the principal's office. We're not singing you out, Barbara, we're interviewing
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most of the girls in the upper classes. You mean about what's been happening
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around school. Yes, that's right. Well, I don't know much about
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it. I was talking to Jim Travis last night. He's a friend of
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mine. He told me while you were here, as long as you known
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Jim Travis, baba, oh, since freshman year. I guess you go
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study with him. Well, you don't like to call it that, but
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I guess. So we go to the dances together. Sometimes we go to
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the show on weekends. Do you go out with him very often? No,
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not very often. Jim's usually pretty busy. He studies a lot.
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Does he go out with other girls? You know? Well, no,
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I don't. Once he went out with Betty Fisher. He said he didn't
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like her much. Betty's kind of a party girl. Jim likes to talk
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about things, you know, physiology, books, stuff like that. Do
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you get along with him pretty well? You get along fine. Sometimes he's
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moody, but I guess I am too. Could you tell us a little
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more about Jim. What's he like? Well, what do you want to
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know, that fool? Is there anything wrong? No, it's just a
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routine questioning. But I mean, we have to check on everybody I see.
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Well, Jim's certainly all right. He's like the rest of the fellow
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as a school I guess, only he's smarter than most of them. Well,
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is there anything Maybe it's odd about him that you noticed anything very different?
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Mmm? No, not that I've noticed. He's always been pretty bashful
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up until this last year. Anyway, he's still that way sometimes when we
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go out on dates. What do you mean how is he bashful? You
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know about girls and things. He's always nice, though he's not always thinking
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about necking and stuff like most of them. You mean he's not the romantic
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type. Well, he can be romantic when he wants to. Once we
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parked outside my house after a dance. He's always nice. It was just
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this one time, but was none. Well, he kissed me and then
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he twisted my arm behind my back. He kept twisting it for no reason.
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L I told him it hurt me, but he wouldn't let go.
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He kept twisting my arm. What do you say? That's what was so
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funny? He said, I like you better than any girl I know.
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Then he said, that's why I'm hurting you. After talking with Barbara Ferris,
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we had a pretty good idea that Jim Travers was a suspect we wanted,
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but because of his fine background and his record, we realized that we'd
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have to prove beyond any question of a doubt that he was the guilty person.
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We had only one thing to go on besides the information Barbara Ferris had
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given us during the morning recesses, when Travers was with Ben and I was
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watching the corridors. Not one knifing took place. When we had left Travers
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and gone downstairs to check the policewoman Jensen. The girl had been found slugged
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and cut at the rear of the girl's locker room. Two thirty pm.
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Then and I met with a suspect. How's it going? Sorry? Any
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lucked? Not much? Jim? What's that rally? No band practice?
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Junior proms tonight? Didn't? Yeah? You talk to a girl who was
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knife downstairs? Find out anything? No? Not much? You want to
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stick with us this afternoon? I think you might be able to help us
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out. Sure, I've got the fellas on the council standing by. You
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want him on bline? Let's go outside, Huh, I got time to
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tell you? Sure, Okay, we can go out this way. Can
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I certainly appreciate your letting me time along, hoping you're helping. I think
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you can, Jim. So, when we talked to those girls this morning,
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we drew up a new list of possible suspect. Yeah, funny thing.
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One of the names on the list was yours. Well, I've got
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nothing to hide. Well, we'll make a systematic check of each name on
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the list and prop of joy. Well, where we have to go on
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the line detector. I'd like to try that. I have a sew one
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only pictures. No, no, you won't have to go through that.
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It'll just be a couple of questions, and then we're gonna check your locker
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Okay, i'd be glad to show you. Does this take us to the
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locker room? Yeah, we can cut through here. Say, when we
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were questioning those girls this morning, someone said that they saw you in different
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parts of the building of the Night and the sixth Place. What do you
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mean, Well, your location didn't exactly jibe with your classroom schedule. In
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other words, your class was on the third floor. But you were sitting
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down on the main cord. And how do you count for that? Well,
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you see, I usually take walks between periods. Sitting in classrooms make
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me nervous sometimes. You know here, I'll get the door from there.
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Any other questions I can answered, sergeant, No, that's all. How'd
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you happen to get interested in police work? Jim and said your father was
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an engineer, didn't you? Yeah, that's right. I don't know how
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I got into that. I just took to I guess I always like to
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watch people's reactions and every behavior fasinating the locker rooms down this day. Okay,
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what are you funding on doing when you graduate? Golly, yeah,
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I guess so Dad wants to send to the MIT. It's good school.
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Yeah, say, if you ever had the time, I'm sure like to
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see some of the ballistics equipment down at the police crime lab. I've read
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up on the ballistics put that too. Oh that's so. Yeah, they
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probably have light attacker. That's my favorite wonderfulness. Imagine charging positive and negative
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reactions like that's marvelous. Yeah, say you have either one of you ever
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read Dawson was treated. I think it's called the Psychology of the Criminal Mind.
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You ever read it? I think we had it in training, didn't
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we? Then feeling like, how about criminal behavior in this basis Maxwell's book?
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Do you ever read that one? Mm? No, I don't think
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I did. That's a great book. I've got quite a few textbooks on
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crime, the one on sex crimes. It just gos very good. This
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locker room almost went past it. My lock is down this way. How
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do you shave? Jim? Use an electric razor or? Safety razor?
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Me electric razor. They had the best. Yeah, a lot easier to
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use here and it's all opened for you. Yeah, Ben, you guess
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there envelopes? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they're okay. Would you
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step aside there, Jim. We get some dust scrapings from the shelf.
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M all right there you are, BENU want to market from uh Sam drivers?
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Just scraping locker? All right, let's see here. Here's some more
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scrapings from the bottom of the locker this time. Okay, I'll see these
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envelopes. Oh, here's a nail file. Okay, Jim. Now when
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you hold out your right hand, oh yeah, holding en blo up under
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his hand. What have you been? That's the nail scraping here, I
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say, what's all this for, sergeant, It's just routine and everybody,
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Jim, I'm just gonna take some sample specimens to run through the spectrograph spector.
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Yeah, let me sprap that middle finger nail little Okay, that's it
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now the index finger. What about the spec today we used all the time.
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Well, it won't work in a case like this, will it.
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That's all for the right hand man, don't forget to mark the envelope.
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Yeah, Jim travers screepings, angry nails, all right? An oh we
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know right, No the left hand Jim M yeah, no, we don't
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know if this is gonna work or not. It's worth a try. We'll
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know this afternoon. This afternoon, Yeah, we'll have to run you through
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on the machine. Holding book a little closer there. Yeah, well,
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how's it going to help him? Might tell us what you had for breakfast
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a week ago. Might tell us what kind of clothes you wore three days
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ago, kind of objects she came in contact with. Oh, well,
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what kind of principles does it operate on? Oh? I don't know.
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We can ask Lee Jones. Here. Let me get the scrapings from your
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plumb All right, there it is, and I see what the market ben.
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Uh you want to call the office and tell him all our way in?
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Yeah, I'll be in that that room right next to the prince was
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Okay, you can close your locker, Jim, that's all. Yeah,
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we'll check the things in your pockets and we get to the crime. Right,
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let's go. That spectrograph must be a marvelous machine. Well, it's
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worked for us a lot of times. We've got evidence on the suspected,
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either convicts them or clears them. You'll probably get a kick out of it.
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I'd like to see it. You say. It tells you everything a
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person's coming in contact, isn't it. Yeah, that's right. Could I
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tell you how I shaved? Well, what do you mean? I mean?
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Where an electric razor or safety raiser? Sure, that's one of the
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primary things. I don't know exactly how it works, but it does the
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job. We'll get Lee Jones to explain it to us. Out the store,
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we can cut across the courtyard. These are sure nice grounds. Will
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they keep me long downtown? Sergeant? Will you think, Jim, you
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know the strange part about these knifings? Out of here? What's that.
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Whoever's responsible probably doesn't even realize what he's doing. Mandoline is sick. He's
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very sick. Best thing for him to be a doctor, just like any
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other sickness. It's not going to get better by itself. Yeah. The
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only trouble is is just getting his appetite up with these knifings that he goes
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much longer. And how about that spectrograph sergeant say, for instance, well,
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if I happen to hold a knife in my hand or maybe a raiser,
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well, yeah, that was showing the machine we're going here. Yeah,
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terrible thing. Whoever it is, terrible thing, Yes, it is,
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has him going. I think he's ready to tell us, hope,
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So back into that phone, all right, son, you want to tell
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us about it now. I couldn't know myself. I had to do what
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I had to sleep, my goodness study. Unless I did, I couldn't
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know myself. You're responsible for all the nine things you know you're telling us,
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Dude, I'm glad you caught me. It's getting worse. Might have
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been wit I'm glad you caught me. Barbara after the prompt tonight, yeah,
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I was going to kill her. The story you have just heard was
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true, only the names were changed to protect the innocent. On December fifteenth,
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the hearing was held in Juvenile Court Department thirty eighth City and County of
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Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results of that trial,
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smoke extra mild Fatima. It's wise to smoke extra mild Fatima. Seventeen year
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old James Travers was examined by court psychiatrists, who found him to be one
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of the most dangerous mental cases they had ever examined. The boy's parents,
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who cooperated to the fullest with the police officers, and with the court made
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only one request that the boy be committed to a private sanitarium. James Travers
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is now under confinement at that sanitarium for an indefinite period of time. You
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have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical
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advice for Dragnet comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. A.
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Wharton, Los Angeles Police Depires. Green Director's Playhouse presents a Damon Runyon story
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tomorrow on NBC Welcome Back. This episode ended up on my list of the
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twenty five best Dragnett stories ever going from the radio program into the nineteen sixties.
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And I think you got a good idea why it was such an unusual
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case. It's one where there had been limited actual damage, but certainly a
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threat of something very bad unfurling here. And the way that it was revealed
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by Friday, I think was just a masterful Now, oftentimes in fiction,
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when you want to wow somebody, you just make up something that's uh,
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you know, that's a totally fake, invented thing. But it takes a
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respect to graph which is a powerful tool for police, though not quite the
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wonder tool that Sergeant Friday makes out. It's handy, particularly in the analysis
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of drugs, and there are a wide variety of different sorts of spectographers that
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are spectra spectrographs that have sprung up over the years. But there was just
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I think something very perfect psychologically about the way that he played. It really
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gave him the sense that he'd been trapped and he was very crucial to do
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this because, as he said, you know, he was going to kill
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that girl that night. So it was a sad but very well told tale.
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Well, now we turn to listener comments and feedback, and we start
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with an email we have from Christine in Jamaica. She writes, Hi,
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Adam, I've just got a chance to listen to the Big Trial. I
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loved it. I find I get really excited by the Dragnet episodes that are
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super procedural. You think I'd find these more boring, but I don't.
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These are actually my favorite. Not sure what that says about me. Maybe
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I'm the most boring person in the world. In any case, Thanks for
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giving me the opportunity to be excited from the comfort of my living room.
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Excellent as always, Well, thanks so much, Christine, And definitely different
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episodes strike or scratch, different people'shitches. I tend to enjoy the really exciting,
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interesting episodes and the ones that feature procedural last we don't usually think about,
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as well as some of the great character pieces that Dragnet has done.
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Okay, we also do have a tweet, and this one comes from Paul,
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who writes in love Dragnett and all your shows Adam, Johnny Dollar and
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let George do it. Also my faves Bob Bailey is very good. Well,
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thanks so much, Paul, and appreciate your comments. And that will
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actually do it for today. Coming up on Sunday, we'll be bringing you
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on video theater the Mandarin Mystery. It's the very first Ellery Queen movie.
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And then next Tuesday, Ellery Queen comes to us on the radio and more.
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Immediately on Monday, join me for the Saint with Vincent Price, and
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then next Saturday another episode of Dragnet. In the meanwhile, send your comments
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