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The Neighbors Are Hiding Something...The Murder of Philip _Buckie_ Barlow _ True Crime Documentary · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: In the spring of twenty nineteen, a well liked and
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  Speaker 1: respected trucker in a small town in West Virginia went missing.
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  Speaker 1: In the days that followed, it seemed that everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the community had a theory, Rumors, speculation, and accusations were rampant.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation navigated a maze of strange clues, finger pointing,
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  Speaker 1: and colorful characters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know a freaking thing about just missing.
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  Speaker 3: God, dude, I don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: My mom asked me today.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Until one small and seemingly innocuous lie unraveled the mystery
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  Speaker 1: of this small town murder. Hi there, I'm Kevin, and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Just Thought Lounge. Today's case takes us to
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  Speaker 1: a town of just over two hundred people. That setting
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  Speaker 1: goes a long way to explaining how this investigation unfolds.
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  Speaker 1: With no murder scene or weapon, limited physical evidence, and
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  Speaker 1: dodgy witnesses, there were only a few ways this case
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  Speaker 1: could have been solved. When it finally was, the truth
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  Speaker 1: was truly horrific. Let's take a look. Kingwood, West Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: is a small community situated within the Alleghany Mountains above
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  Speaker 1: the Cheat River.
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  Speaker 5: Valley.
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  Speaker 1: The town is spread across a large rural area, with
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  Speaker 1: less than a thousand families calling the region home. Just
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  Speaker 1: south of Kingwood is the even smaller community of Tunnelton,
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  Speaker 1: which is home to a population of just over two
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  Speaker 1: hundred people. Perhaps not surprisingly, Kingwood is a place where
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  Speaker 1: many residents have family connections carried over generations, where neighbors
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  Speaker 1: know each other, and where gossip and rumors travel quickly.
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  Speaker 1: At about a quarter past seven in the morning on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: May twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, one local resident placed a
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  Speaker 1: call to the Preston County Sheriff's office about suspected drug
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  Speaker 1: activity on Shower Bath Road. There was a maroon pickup
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  Speaker 1: truck parked where the road first widened passed Route twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: The road runs next to the Cheat River. Later that morning,
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  Speaker 1: Deputy Childers pulled up behind the truck and began to
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  Speaker 1: inspect it. The deputy found the vehicle empty. Dark gray
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  Speaker 1: smoke building up in the interior of the cab made
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  Speaker 1: it nearly impossible to see in. Some of the smoke
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  Speaker 1: billowed out from the passenger side window. No doubt the
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  Speaker 1: reason that the caller had inspected drug use.
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  Speaker 4: It almost seems as if somebody's probably trying to set
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  Speaker 4: this from long fire.
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  Speaker 3: From the loft over here.
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  Speaker 1: There was clearly oil or a similar type of liquid
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  Speaker 1: accelerant spilling out from the doors. In the truck bed
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  Speaker 1: were two containers of motor oil, one of them empty.
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  Speaker 1: On the passenger side. There were notable smudges visible, but
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  Speaker 1: there were no hand or finger imprints. Despite the arsenist's efforts,
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  Speaker 1: much of the interior remained intact.
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  Speaker 4: There's a pretty good indication gloves. They were wearing gloves
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  Speaker 4: for the all frind Here, cheese are out of ignition.
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  Speaker 3: There's a there.
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  Speaker 4: The center console has been open. As you can see,
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  Speaker 4: it smells like an oil. They're all over in the
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  Speaker 4: dash a couple of places here.
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  Speaker 1: The deputy was joined by a sergeant and then by
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  Speaker 1: the fire department. Tire tracks emerging from the roadside near
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  Speaker 1: to the pickup suggested another vehicle could have been involved,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps driven away by the arsonist.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, this looks like a I don't know if it's fresh,
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  Speaker 6: but it comes from my ear.
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  Speaker 7: On the side of this truck.
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  Speaker 6: There's a like a tire tread going out that way.
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  Speaker 1: The pickup was registered to Philip Barlow, a local truck
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  Speaker 1: driver known affectionately as Bucky. Before long. This was further
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  Speaker 1: confirmed when Bucky's nephew, Perry arrived on scene and told
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  Speaker 1: them that that was his uncle's truck. He placed a
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  Speaker 1: call to Bucky's employer, Hillside Trucking to check in on him.
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  Speaker 1: Perry learned that Bucky had not arrived for work that
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  Speaker 1: morning and no one had heard from him, a highly
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  Speaker 1: unusual circumstance for a trucker who was known for his reliability.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't have any kai issues.
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  Speaker 3: Last time outcalf Tham. That was his breakfast, which would
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  Speaker 3: have been Mother's Day. He was bitching about his neighbor
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  Speaker 3: been Mountain Hall. Other than that earl.
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  Speaker 2: You married.
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  Speaker 3: I falled that he never called or showed up. He
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  Speaker 3: could have filed.
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  Speaker 2: You got anybody?
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  Speaker 6: He lives with kids, nobody.
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  Speaker 3: Beyonce, a girlfriend, whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 4: In Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: Nowhere Indiana see his plan is retired. September, he moved
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  Speaker 3: to Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: Philip Bucky Barlow was in fact, only weeks away from
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  Speaker 1: a well deserved retirement. He and Mary Butler, his partner
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  Speaker 1: of over seventeen years, had been making preparations for their
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  Speaker 1: pending move out of state. She had moved to Indiana
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  Speaker 1: ahead of him to set up their new home. The
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  Speaker 1: circum stances surrounding the abandoned truck were suspicious. Foul play
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  Speaker 1: was certainly being considered. Though Bucky was not known as
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  Speaker 1: the type to make enemies, he was described as a
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  Speaker 1: big hearted man who loved children and was reportedly shockingly
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  Speaker 1: competent on a pair of roller skates. Indeed, Bucky dedicated
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  Speaker 1: many sundays to teaching local kids how to skate. He
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  Speaker 1: also loved riding his four wheeler, camping, and playing with
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  Speaker 1: his remote control cars. Though he had no children of
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  Speaker 1: his own, the sixty one year old was close with
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  Speaker 1: his extended family, including nieces and nephews. He was one
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  Speaker 1: of nine children, though had already suffered the loss of
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  Speaker 1: two siblings in the local area where two of his brothers,
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  Speaker 1: four sisters, their spouses and children. None of his family
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  Speaker 1: members had heard from him since he left his home
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  Speaker 1: for work the night before. Mary had spoken with Bucky
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  Speaker 1: while he was preparing to leave at just before midnight.
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  Speaker 1: He was often one of the first to report in
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  Speaker 1: at around twelve fifteen am that night, Bucky did not
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  Speaker 1: arrive A missing person's investigation was launched by the County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office under the lead of Captain Travis Titchenell. Officers
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  Speaker 1: began by speaking with coworkers at Hillside trucking.
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  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts about all this? What's your thoughts about
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  Speaker 2: all this?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It was normally Bucky's type person.
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  Speaker 9: And you have to forgive me.
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  Speaker 2: But if a man's macabe that he.
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  Speaker 8: Tells everybody, I mean, everybody knows anything and everything about him.
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  Speaker 8: And normally you're saying clockwork, he normally shows up between
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  Speaker 8: twelve fifteen to.
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  Speaker 3: Round twelve forty five.
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  Speaker 9: He's here.
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  Speaker 8: I noticed he was here last night, and I want
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  Speaker 8: ever to ask him if you know, if it if
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  Speaker 8: he was coming out later with the rest of the drivers.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't know. He won't scheduled off or anything.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't know either.
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  Speaker 10: Why didn't show off any enemies that he had that
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  Speaker 10: you know of? Like the only person that we knew
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  Speaker 10: is that his neighbors. She always heard him talk about
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  Speaker 10: fighting with his neighbors.
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  Speaker 2: Who's that.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know what his name was, You don't know
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  Speaker 10: his name. It's our daytime mechanic, it's his nephew.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what names.
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  Speaker 1: As the search commenced, Mary traveled from Illinois to the
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  Speaker 1: home she shared with Bucky on Number four Road south
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  Speaker 1: of Kingwood in the even smaller town of Tunnelton. Deputies,
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  Speaker 1: with the assistance of the community, searched the area where
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  Speaker 1: the truck had been found for any indication of a
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  Speaker 1: pathway towards the river or any additional evidence that might
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  Speaker 1: indicate where they could find Bucky. Family members and friends
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  Speaker 1: walked the length of the river where the terrain allowed,
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  Speaker 1: hoping to spot something.
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  Speaker 2: In the river this morning.
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  Speaker 3: And he's got a bunch of rappers out looking at
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  Speaker 3: you right now. Okay, we're just thinking the same thing
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  Speaker 3: you're thinking.
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  Speaker 4: The truck burn up on his road.
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  Speaker 3: Did anybody win this water? I mean they at the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: As the only source of controversy in the trucker's life
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be an ambiguous dispute with one of his neighbors,
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  Speaker 1: deputies were keen to conduct a canvas of the area.
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  Speaker 1: Directly next to his house was the home of Laura
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  Speaker 1: Martin and Robert Bobby Quinn.
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  Speaker 3: The reason I'm stopping is your neighbor there. I wonder
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  Speaker 3: if you have to know when you after to see him.
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  Speaker 2: Leave or no.
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  Speaker 11: They were stopped out along the route. I was gad,
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  Speaker 11: that's my.
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  Speaker 2: Home. The way back here.
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  Speaker 11: Greg stopped and he was often our cameras was out
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  Speaker 11: ruining which we have to have internet, We don't know
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  Speaker 11: and he said to bugs have by's and he said,
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  Speaker 11: your neighbor listen.
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  Speaker 7: To Tyler asked, what do you.
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  Speaker 3: You'll hear washer?
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Laura explained that they were in bed early the night
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  Speaker 1: before with appliances running inside the house like their washer dryer,
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  Speaker 1: they could not hear anything that might have taken place outside. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: the couple were of no help to investigators. Laura and
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  Speaker 1: Quinn were not the only neighbors in the immediate vicinity.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky's property also connected with land occupied by a man
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  Speaker 1: named Craig McLeod. The more neighbors the police spoke with,
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  Speaker 1: the more they heard the same rumors and allegations that
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  Speaker 1: Craig McLeod and his friend, a man named Chris Thorn,
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  Speaker 1: must be responsible for Bucky's disappearance.
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  Speaker 11: Rick Miswell wife, he'd had a falling out Chris Gorn
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  Speaker 11: night before.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm reaching out to you. I have a show.
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  Speaker 10: Listen, well, listen, I'm reaching out to you. Like I said,
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  Speaker 10: You've always given me a good information, whether you're in
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  Speaker 10: the right or whether you're in the wrong. I don't
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  Speaker 10: think that you have any involvement with it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 10: I don't, but I figured of all people to talk to,
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  Speaker 10: you'd be a good one to reach out to.
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  Speaker 2: Believe me, I'm trying to figure out the show. What's
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  Speaker 2: your guts telling you? Chris the winning McLoud? Ask why?
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  Speaker 2: Because they're always together, You're always running together. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: take that. Mitchell is a fall guy for Chris. You
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  Speaker 2: think what he's the tall guy. What do you mean
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  Speaker 2: for Chris? It's a fan for me.
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  Speaker 12: He's gonna use.
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  Speaker 2: McLoud as a ball guy. So you think, who do
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  Speaker 2: you think I had a problem with?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 10: Who makes you think Cloud had problem? And what do
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  Speaker 10: you think would happen from there?
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  Speaker 13: Now?
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  Speaker 2: He was going to take a golf plage today.
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  Speaker 1: Local gossip led police to a woman named Rebecca, who
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  Speaker 1: was Craig's ex girlfriend. Their breakup may have been the
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  Speaker 1: source of the conflict between Craig and Bucky.
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  Speaker 10: He said, you got a message from your sister. Yea,
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  Speaker 10: who's your sister? How she and McCleod.
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  Speaker 7: She's married to Craig's nephew Keith. Well, the message she
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  Speaker 7: sent me was when she ForWord that Craig sent her.
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  Speaker 7: I used to it Craig and I guess where Bucky
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  Speaker 7: lives is right, It is like a neighbor to where
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  Speaker 7: meet and Craig used to stay. Craig was setting my
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  Speaker 7: stuff up in Bucky's property.
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  Speaker 2: Say what?
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  Speaker 7: He was setting my stuff up and on the Bucky's property. Woman,
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  Speaker 7: he broke up.
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  Speaker 2: And he put your stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Bucky thought it was trash. He was sitting up there,
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  Speaker 7: so so Bucky came out. I was asking the move
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  Speaker 7: and stuff, and I and Craig apparently messaged my sister
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  Speaker 7: forward to me. Craig was saying that he was going
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  Speaker 7: to beat Budget with the golf club for touching my stuff.
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  Speaker 7: And I didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to.
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  Speaker 7: My sister just score the message to me today. But
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  Speaker 7: it would have been the day before Bucky went missing
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  Speaker 7: that Craig's and him got into an argument and he
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  Speaker 7: was supposed to beat him with the golf club or
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  Speaker 7: whatever he chasing with the golf club or however it was. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I never even met like and then I heard where
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  Speaker 7: he was missing, and then my sister told me that,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm like, kind of seemed weird that Craig was
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  Speaker 7: said he was gonna chase him with the golf club
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  Speaker 7: or him with the golf club, and then he's missing.
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  Speaker 1: As the rumors made their rounds, additional details made their
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  Speaker 1: way into the narrative. Some people had heard that Bucky
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: had been killed somewhere near a place known as the
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  Speaker 1: Caves across from River Road. His killers were described as
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  Speaker 1: methed out. They had likely dumped him in the river.
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  Speaker 1: Some said still others had heard an even more gruesome tale.
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  Speaker 1: Someone known as Turtle was allegedly contacted by Chris the
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  Speaker 1: day after Bucky went missing. He allegedly wanted to know
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  Speaker 1: about borrowing his grinder. Those who caught wind of that
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  Speaker 1: story surmised that Bucky was now in pieces, buried in
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  Speaker 1: different locations across the county.
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  Speaker 2: What stor and to help.
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  Speaker 13: And tech the golf club, the guy in the head.
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  Speaker 13: He didn't intend to kill the guy, m of course,
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  Speaker 13: and in different places. Who told you that I want
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  Speaker 13: somebody all the time?
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  Speaker 5: Four last rumors except for okay, Well, Turtle, he told
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  Speaker 5: me that the day that he suppose the murderer Kurt
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  Speaker 5: Chris Thawn. I called him and asked him he's his grinder. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I did, and not.
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  Speaker 12: Always that I don't know, because you know, he trusting
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  Speaker 12: he's the teeth, but now he thinks he knows why
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  Speaker 12: because he needed help with that, and then he's telling him.
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  Speaker 12: Then later on he told him that he hit him
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  Speaker 12: with the gold club in the back of her in
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  Speaker 12: the head, somewhere in the head, and that she didn't
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  Speaker 12: mean the killing, that he hit him.
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  Speaker 5: The docu mount and it killed him. I mean I
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  Speaker 5: heard stuff, you know, rumors, but I don't know for
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  Speaker 5: a back.
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  Speaker 12: All I know is that Turtle said, Hey, he called
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  Speaker 12: me want no one of those bars, grinder or something?
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  Speaker 14: Uh m.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, called you on your cell phone? And how did
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  Speaker 6: the conversation start? Well, right, that's what she said. And
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  Speaker 6: did you know who she was talking about? How do
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  Speaker 6: you know who she's talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Because Chris is dirty? Okay? Well one name. When I
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  Speaker 2: first heard out here, you know, read about it or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The first person I thought I was creating the cloud
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  Speaker 2: because they've never gotten walked, you know, I mean, nobody
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  Speaker 2: else that wow.
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  Speaker 5: Said spreading around and Bary after they had.
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  Speaker 2: And who was that there? Are there? Especially for three
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  Speaker 2: other people.
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  Speaker 9: Call well, it could just be a weird theory too.
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  Speaker 2: At the same time, it's always.
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  Speaker 1: A As the rumors continued, other names were thrown into
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  Speaker 1: the mix. Chris's wife, Debbie, was amongst those implicated. Almost
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  Speaker 1: every witness approached by police prefaced their information by stating
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  Speaker 1: they had heard only rumors, not facts. Nonetheless, as more
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  Speaker 1: and more individuals reached the same conclusion, a confidence developed
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  Speaker 1: around these allegations, an unsupported yet unflinching certainty that many
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  Speaker 1: in the community knew what must have happened to Bucky Barlow.
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  Speaker 14: Like fat guys jumped Chris yesterday, China, blame the shit,
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  Speaker 14: I knowed it, Like what I don't know something about
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  Speaker 14: some guys up. The guy's name is Barlow, and.
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  Speaker 3: I guess he's an order man and he's missing.
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  Speaker 14: Okay, So after this guy picked up attire, he picked
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  Speaker 14: up what's it called a floor jack and hit my
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  Speaker 14: husband across the face.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So, why do you think that Robert Waws hit
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  Speaker 2: Chris with a floor jack?
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  Speaker 14: I have no clue. Oh, no, I do have a clue. Chris,
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  Speaker 14: was that one of our friends and ne were working
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  Speaker 14: on my truck. At some point named kind of said
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  Speaker 14: that my husband jumped somebody my husband.
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  Speaker 4: That's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Independent efforts were made to obtain confessions from the community's
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  Speaker 1: prime suspects.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't like this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean nobody here does. So we're about to get
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: found out. You seeing your way wheel, I'll call it
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: way you record it?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Do you have a recorder?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna sell phone.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Does a record like an audio recorder?
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  Speaker 3: I want to do.
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  Speaker 9: That, all right, the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: A record movie all you know what I mean? What
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: an all acount? If you get your phone out and then.
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  Speaker 3: They hit record.
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  Speaker 9: But so tell me about feeling.
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  Speaker 3: By thinking he's a badass, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Guy? Because I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Actor no, I seen as a stupid podcast killer.
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie Rager had offered to split the reward money for
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: locating Bucky with Chris Thorn if Chris would just admit
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  Speaker 1: to what he did and where Bucky was, but Chris
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  Speaker 1: denied any knowledge of or any involvement in the disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: He told Ronnie that he had no idea where Bucky
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  Speaker 1: Barlow was. At just past nine a m. On June eighth,
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  Speaker 1: just over a week after Bucky disappeared, the County Sheriff's
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  Speaker 1: office received a phone call from a small group of
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: hunters who had spotted what they believed was a body
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: floating face down in the river. Pat Zukowski stated that
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: he and his grandson Bryden, spotted a body lying in
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the creek bed. It was roughly eighty yards downstream from
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the bridge. They went to the nearest home in the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: area and alerted the homeowner.
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  Speaker 2: He's the one that's missing.
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  Speaker 15: So that's kind of where we were head and that's
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  Speaker 15: why everybody's just all going to converge at one time
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  Speaker 15: and we'll look at one time. If you guys don't line,
• 20:24
  Speaker 15: you guys have idies handy, so I can get picture.
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  Speaker 15: Everybody that's witness Canaikan, know who you are.
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  Speaker 1: Deputies made their way down the river. The body was shirtless,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: jeans were around the ankles, boots were on. The body
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  Speaker 1: was unfortunately too decomposed to formally make an identification on site,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: though pat reported that he had known Bucky Barlow for
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: ages and the man they found matched is built. Then
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: a shirt lodged underneath a fallen log near to the
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: recovery site in the river was pulled from the water.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: The blue and white striped shirt had two chest patches,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: one red hillside trucking, the other Philip. They had found Philip,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Bucky Barlow.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: That's his name, Caltistl.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I know his name's on it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: The cause of death was a deep laceration to the neck.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: A knife or another blade had been the murder weapon,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it had not been recovered. Captain Titchenell concluded that wherever
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Bucky had been murdered, there would have been a substantial
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: amount of blood. Police searching the river near to where
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he was found did not identify a likely murder scene nearby.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: The same was true for the first location, where Bucky's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: truck had been recovered by the side of the road.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: In the truck itself, there was blood in the middle
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to the right of the back seat, on the exterior door, handles,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: front driver and passenger seats, center console, steering wheel, and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the gearshift. However, the analysis concluded that with the amount
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of blood loss apparently suffered by Bucky, it was extremely
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: unlikely that he had been killed inside the truck. Zip
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: ties located on the ground outside near to his house
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: suggested he could have been bound and transported elsewhere in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: his own pickup before he was placed in the river
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and the truck set on fire. Investigators spoke with both
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Craig McLoud and Chris Thorne, as well as others who
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: had been implicated in the rumor bill by association. They
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: executed sirch warrants, pulled phone data, and verified alibis to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the extent that they uncovered any verifiable evidence it supported
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: their claim of innocence. It was also now clear that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Bucky had not been killed by a golf club, nor
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: had the killer utilized a grinder. Months passed with little
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: progress made in the investigation. Then in January twenty twenty,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Captain Titchnell went back through the files compiled in the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: initial days of the investigation. He reviewed everything, including witness
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: statements and bodycam footage. That is when he began to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: closely scrutinize the recorded statements of Bucky's immediate next door neighbors,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Laura Martin and Bobby Quinn. The couple first spoke with
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: a deputy on May twenty ninth. They did so again
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in mid July. What Titchnell noted was that they both
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to some degree, spontaneously claimed that they didn't hear anything
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that night because of their air conditioner unit running. They
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: always had it on full blast, they said, except the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: day the truck was found. They did not mention an
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: AC unit at all that day. They stated it was
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the noise from their washing machine that had blocked all
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: sound from outside.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And wash your drawer running, kit, I understand.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So the captain spoke with Mary Butler, who had arrived
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: back at the house next to Laura and Quinn's just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: after Bucky went missing. Mary was positive that no air
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: conditioner unit was installed in their south facing window when
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she returned from Indiana. She knew it was about late
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: June or early July before the AC was put in
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the window. This small inconsistency was not much to go on,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that is until the captain also learned that the couple
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: did not own a washing machine either.
• 24:54
  Speaker 15: Oh, thank you very much. O ya you wait a
• 24:56
  Speaker 15: second guess. Thanks.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Laura and Quinn's alibi was chased down. Family members who
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: were meant to have been working on a truck with
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Quinn could not recall if they had been doing so
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: on the day and night in question. As he asserted
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Laura's grandmother could not confirm their presence at her home either,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: though these were the locations the couple claimed to have
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: been on the night Bucky disappeared. While interviewing their family members,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: police were told one more story about what had allegedly
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: happened to Bucky Barlow, and this one rang true. They
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: were told that Laura had confessed to the murder. She
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: told a family member that she and Quinn heard that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: their neighbor had money. They staged a robbery with baby
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: guns outside his house, only to learn that Bucky only
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: had fifty dollars in cash on him, so they killed him.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: In the spring of twenty twenty, Laura Martin and Robert
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Quinn were in custody in a Maryland to jail following
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: their arrest for a series of storage building break ins
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: from Preston County. Their communication was monitored. Would one of
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: them slip up and speak about the murder on a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: recorded line. While Laura was never caught making any incriminating statements,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: she was recorded having extensive, at times explicit conversations with
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a man that was not Bobby Quinn. To that point,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Quinn had denied any involvement in Bucky's murder. After he
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: was played some of Laura's recorded phone calls. However, proving
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: her unfaithfulness to him, Quinn began to talk and he
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: placed the blame for the murder on Laura. Quinn offered
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to take investigators to the locations where the robbery, kidnapping,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and murder took place.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: It was Quinn, right, I'm terrible his names.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I'll remember your face for ever, but terrible names a
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Quinn told investigators that it was Laura's idea to rob Bucky.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: She waited outside his door for him to exit for work.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: When he came out, she attacked him and a struggle ensued.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Only then did Quinn step in. The two of them
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: then forced Bucky into his own truck. They traveled to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: an area known as Fortney Mills, where there was a
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: swimming hole the water falls below a bridge over the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Three Fork Creek. Laura forced Bucky to walk down under
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the bridge.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Building giving and say give him the wallet as what
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: else his money? Okay? Where was Laura.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Standing at this guy?
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Right right where I'm standing? You care?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Where were where were you staying?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: As they pretty much where.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: He's at, According to Quinn, Laura threw Bucky's wallet into
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the river and told him to get on his knees
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: after she put him in the water.
• 28:15
  Speaker 16: That he was on his.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Knees at this time, yeah, okay.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Did he resist going down on his knees?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, and see stadt from joining on the water.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: The specifics and Quinn's version of events changed several times.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: The one constant was his attempt to put the majority
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of the blame on his former partner Laura Martin.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Right now, did you see her shove them into the water?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: No, okay, you just assumed that she did.
• 28:46
  Speaker 12: Did you ever ask her what she did with She said, well,
• 28:48
  Speaker 12: he's in the water, now, what'll do?
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Okay okay.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Quinn explained that after dumping the truck and setting it
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: on fire, they walked to the home of one of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Laura's family members, where they took his keys. They drove
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the vehicle back to their home, changed into fresh clothes,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and then drove down river road near the caves. There
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: they burned any evidence that remained, including their dirty clothing.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Quinn said that he did not have any blood on
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: him at all, but burned his clothing as well because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he was scared of Laura. The last stop on Bobby
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Quinn's confession tour was the location where it all began,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: on Number four Road, where they had lived. Quinn reiterated
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that he watched from the window as Laura attempted to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: rob Bucky. Quinn explained that Laura took his wallet at
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that point, apparently forgetting that he had already included this
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: detail in his account of what had occurred at forty
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Mills by the water.
• 29:53
  Speaker 16: Now carlier down at the stream, he told us that
• 29:56
  Speaker 16: if he reached behind him, what are you sitting on
• 29:59
  Speaker 16: that lives to give her a well?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she hate Bobby. You just told me you
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: gave him a wall or two or twice. You're well,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: here's version of.
• 30:07
  Speaker 16: This story has changed six times this since you've been here.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: They told her she told him.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: To give me. You were here on this starting. Yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: you were down here. Okay, there's just no doubt about that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I'll come down after.
• 30:30
  Speaker 16: Saying her hand, yeah, I was here. You would not
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: send your woman out to fight with a full durn
• 30:36
  Speaker 16: man by herself to tron Rob. I don't think that
• 30:40
  Speaker 16: anybody was standing in the window and watched from one
• 30:43
  Speaker 16: hundred yards away. Well, the woman went out to Robin, sounds.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Like deliberately kill me.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Laura Martin also agreed to share her version of events
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: with Captain Titchenell. She was not aware that Bobby Whinn
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: had decided to talk by extension. She did not know
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that he had implicated her almost exclusively in the murder. However,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: she was still under pressure to come clean. Not only
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: had a family member recounted her alleged confession, but an
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: ex cellmate had similarly told law enforcement that she had
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: confessed to her as well. That cellmate recounted disturbing details
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of how Bucky's throat was cut. She quoted Laura describing
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: him trying to speak afterwards, he made a gurgling sound
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that she said she would like to hear again. Laura
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: apparently said it was the coolest thing he had ever heard.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: After she killed him. Still with Bucky's blood on her hands,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: they took out his lunch and ate the sandwiches that
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: he had packed for work that night. Titchnell determined that
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the cell MAT's account was credible. She included details such
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: as the nature of the injuries Bucky incurred to be
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: facts that only a person involved known.
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: Does Bobby even cooperate with you guys.
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: I don't know, ma'am.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I was asked to kind of stay late after my
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: shift right around with you guys.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: That's about it. You know, he's taking me down there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Laura said that the two of them jumped out at
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Bucky in the dark with baby guns that they hoped
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: would pass for real firearms. Bucky immediately put up a fight,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: she said, and he kept getting his licks in even
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: after they forced him into the truck. They attempted to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: bind his hands with zip ties, but he broke free.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: They wore masks that covered most of their faces and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: gloves they purchased from Walmart. Despite their disguise once in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the truck, Bucky declared that he knew exactly who they were.
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: So that's kind of one of the parts that I'm
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: a little bit trying to get my head wrapped around
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: guys walking out, it's a gunshot in the face, gets attacked,
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: tries to be found with zip ties, and then you
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: just kind of fine, I'll go with you. It seems
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: like we're glossing over something that's not making a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: of sense to now.
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: I mean, there was a hell of a scuffle where
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: I would say the scuffle probably last like a half hour,
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: if not longer, and I think he was just getting
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: tired of it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: At Fortney Mills, Laura said Bucky fought with Quinn before
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he was killed. Her former partner had used a box cutter,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: which they subsequently lost. It had likely fallen into the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: river during the course of the murder, or in rolling
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Bucky into the water. She claimed to have fought to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: save him in the final moments, but she had not
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: been successful.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: I was near my knees and I was locking back.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: That was freaking out, like I looked at this because.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: It didn't need to tap in my face.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: And then he was like.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Are you gonna help here?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: What?
• 34:03
  Speaker 10: And I was sitting in a Rockie hooting monkey.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: What do you think bucket is dead? At that point already?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Was he still moving at all? Okay? Really white, Okay.
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: I'm kind of having trouble getting my mon wrapped around
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: something that you said a few times.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: The fuck he put up.
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: In all the bucks, Yeah, where you guys looks in Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: But then he gets down here a gun to his
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: head of the vehicle, comes down here and then just
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: submits to get on his music gun and know that you.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Can't do They scoffed, okay. They got back and forth.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Bobby started gotten.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Off away from him, and then Bobbie.
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: Pulled off the box carter and said mat bite and
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: went back okay, and I just asked right, which I.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Was like, what the fuck you do mean?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And Barbie started freaking on.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: He's like he knows too or he knows what you say.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: That time he was like, I don't want to say nothing.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I want to say nothing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: M h got to work and you had to work.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: He said, come in a binary or a robbery, but
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: get wrong the Dane.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Despite their claims of regret in blaming one another, Laura
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Martin and Robert Quinn were each sentenced to life plus
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty years in prison for robbery, kidnapping,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: and murder. They each entered into plea agreements for first
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: degree murder and first degree robbery. The agreement was that
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: they would receive life with a recommendation of mercy, meaning
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: they could apply for parole after just fifteen years on
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the murder charge, but the judge sentenced each to one
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty years for the robbery to run consecutive,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: with the life sentence rendering the agreement completely moved. The
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: couple said the robbery was motivated by necessity. They needed
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: cash because they're liftricity was going to be turned off
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: for lack of payment. Upon sentencing, Bucky's siblings told the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: court that his last dream had been to retire, a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: goal he had spent his entire life working towards. His
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: killers had taken that from him, and that was the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: tragic case of Philip Bucky Barlow. Thank you for joining me,
• 36:27
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• 36:29
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• 36:35
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• 36:41
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• 36:44
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• 36:48
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• 36:56
  Speaker 5: That you needed to.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You lies you and then it had like loved that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: It's juc feels like the whole world is online for
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: true crimes.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Watch him on the run.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: But it's not a race.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Really hard to disappear.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: It poop without a race.
• 37:09
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• 37:11
  Speaker 5: In your place. Got my smoking pipe, bully right, or
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: crack another case like I need that feeling that you
• 37:18
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