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#224 Parenting on the Same Page · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
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  Speaker 2: wants answers.
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  Speaker 3: Now you know what it's going to be twenty three
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  Speaker 3: years this weekend. I'm just saying, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you knew that or not, But do I get Browning
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  Speaker 3: points for knowing that?
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  Speaker 1: You? Sure I do? What are we doing this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: That's for me to know and you to find out?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? Okay, can I organize it? Since you obviously
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  Speaker 1: haven't because you're asking what we're doing?
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  Speaker 2: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum
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  Speaker 2: and daddy.
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  Speaker 3: This is doctor Justin Colson, the founder of Happy Families
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  Speaker 3: dot com dot au. I'm here with my wife, missus.
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  Speaker 3: Happy Family is kylie My. I was going to say
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  Speaker 3: love with my life, But does that sound just way
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  Speaker 3: too cheesy for a podcast where there's tens of thousands
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  Speaker 3: of people listening to every episode.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of does, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I love it so much more than life Partner.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that does sound a little bit light, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of making things sound awesome, we got some really
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  Speaker 3: big news, Yes we did.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 3: There's all sorts of podcast charts that are out there,
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  Speaker 3: and you can look them up all over Google and
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  Speaker 3: they give you all kinds of different information. But there's
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  Speaker 3: only one in Australia that really counts. It's called the
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  Speaker 3: Australian Podcast Tracker. It's the one that looks at the
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  Speaker 3: biggest podcast in the country and ranks them once a month.
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  Speaker 3: And well, the news is, thank you very much to you,
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  Speaker 3: our Happy Families listeners. As a result of the number
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  Speaker 3: of you who are now listening to the Happy Families podcast,
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  Speaker 3: according to the Australian Podcast Tracker, this podcast is now
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  Speaker 3: the number one perenning podcast in the country.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that fantastic?
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  Speaker 3: So exciting, mainly because what that means is that we're
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  Speaker 3: sharing this stuff with you and it's helping you to
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  Speaker 3: make your family happier, and you're telling people about it.
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  Speaker 3: You're leaving those ratings, those reviews, and more and more
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  Speaker 3: people are listening to the podcast, which means that we
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  Speaker 3: get to help more people and that, more than anything
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  Speaker 3: matters to us. Don't really care what number we are,
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  Speaker 3: And in fairness to some of the other people who
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  Speaker 3: are doing some extraordinarily good work, not every podcast in
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  Speaker 3: the country gets ranked on the Australian Podcast Tracker. So
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  Speaker 3: there may be some other people out there who are
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  Speaker 3: doing great stuff as well, and we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: take away from what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: But it's official.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we are number one in parenting and family because
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  Speaker 3: we are on that tracker and it's looking great. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about tonight and the Happy Families membership webinar
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  Speaker 3: that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be a member.
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  Speaker 3: You can pay thirty bucks and participate in the webinar tonight,
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  Speaker 3: or you can become a member for seventeen dollars a month.
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  Speaker 3: That's much cheaper and get tonight's webinar. I can't wait
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  Speaker 3: for what I'm going to be talking about.
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  Speaker 2: So tonight we're talking about parenting on this same page.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is probably one of the number one
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  Speaker 2: things that people want to know on Facebook, on your
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  Speaker 2: Instagram pages is just this idea of how do we
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  Speaker 2: how do we come together?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when I look at the messages that come through,
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  Speaker 3: almost all of them, literally almost all of them come
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  Speaker 3: from mums who are saying, I just want my husband
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  Speaker 3: to listen. I want my husband to be open. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what I love about the podcast. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: we're getting messages from people all the time who are saying,
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  Speaker 3: dads are listening. You know what wives are saying to
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  Speaker 3: their husbands, You've got to listen to these guys, and
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  Speaker 3: dads are actually listening. So all the dads are listening.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for actually getting on the same page.
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  Speaker 3: But there are some parents, some mums particularly, who are
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  Speaker 3: just desperate for a dad, for a husband to consider
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  Speaker 3: that there might be better ways to raise their kids.
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  Speaker 3: There's a great quote that I love from Epictetters. He says,
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  Speaker 3: you can't teach a man what he thinks he already knows.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting that he doesn't say you
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  Speaker 3: can't teach a woman what she thinks she already knows.
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  Speaker 3: He says, you can't teach a man what he thinks
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  Speaker 3: he already knows. And that's I think the really big challenge,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it. We think we know parenting. We think we
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  Speaker 3: were raised fine, and we think if we raise our
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  Speaker 3: kids the way we think they should be raised, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: And what does our partner really think telling us how
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  Speaker 3: to raise these kids of ours.
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  Speaker 2: When we were dating.
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  Speaker 1: Back in prehistoric times, yes, you did.
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  Speaker 2: Something really different. I had dated a few different guys,
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  Speaker 2: and I had never experienced this before.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was one of a kind guy, wasn't I? You were?
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  Speaker 2: But you used to. We used to as we drive around,
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  Speaker 2: we would watch other couples in their cars and they
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  Speaker 2: would be steering out the window in different directions, or
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  Speaker 2: just you know, sitting in silence, and you and I
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  Speaker 2: just looked at each other and are like, what are
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  Speaker 2: they doing?
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  Speaker 3: There's so much to talk about, But that's fine. Some
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  Speaker 3: people are introverted, some people are quiet. Not every couple
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  Speaker 3: has to be very conversational.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we just didn't stop talking, and part of that
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  Speaker 2: was because you did this crazy thing. You used to
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  Speaker 2: ask me all of these hypothetical questions, literally like what
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  Speaker 2: would you do if you're sixteen year olds taking drugs?
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  Speaker 2: Or what would you do if I don't know your
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  Speaker 2: two year old paints pooh.
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  Speaker 1: On the walls.
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  Speaker 2: You just asked me all of these like random, crazy
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  Speaker 2: questions about life.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's how you get to know somebody. It was
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  Speaker 1: really intentional.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't shared this on the podcast, and this is
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  Speaker 3: not the podcast for it, but I'm going to share
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  Speaker 3: a fifteen second version of it. I was really intentional
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  Speaker 3: about dating I reached a point in my life where
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  Speaker 3: I knew that I wanted to get married. I was
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  Speaker 3: still very young, but I just knew that I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get married.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get on.
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  Speaker 3: With the next stage of my life, and so I
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  Speaker 3: literally approached dating in a methodical way where I thought,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go on these platonic dates with as
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  Speaker 3: many girls as I can, and I'm going to learn
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  Speaker 3: everything that I can about them, which meant that I
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  Speaker 3: had to ask lots of questions. And the best way
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  Speaker 3: to ask questions is to try to get people to
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  Speaker 3: predict their futures by saying, what would you do in
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  Speaker 3: this situation? How many kids do you think that you
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  Speaker 3: want to have? Not that I was talking about white
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  Speaker 3: picket fences and kids on first dates with everybody, but
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  Speaker 3: it was about that hypothetical thing.
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  Speaker 1: So it helps to.
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  Speaker 3: Create a level of alignment and a level of certainty
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  Speaker 3: as that dating progresses into a relationship that's going to
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  Speaker 3: ultimately form a marriage.
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  Speaker 1: In our case, in our.
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  Speaker 2: Time together as husband and wife, I often think back
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  Speaker 2: to those conversations you know.
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  Speaker 3: What it's going to be twenty three years this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't know if you knew that
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  Speaker 3: or not. But do I get branding points for knowing that.
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  Speaker 1: You sure do? What are we doing this weekend? That's
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  Speaker 1: for me to know and you to find out, is that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: can I organize it?
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  Speaker 3: Since you obviously haven't because you're asking what we're doing?
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Maybe I know and maybe I don't.
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  Speaker 2: But I often think back to those conversations and I
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  Speaker 2: think about the fact that at the time I thought
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  Speaker 2: I knew all the answers. Yeah, I had so much
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  Speaker 2: clarity about how I would respond to all of those
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  Speaker 2: different scenarios and difficulties that seemed to challenge everyone else.
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  Speaker 2: But in my nineteen year old mind thought that there
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  Speaker 2: was no way I was going to be stumped by
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  Speaker 2: all of these things. And as we've matured and developed
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  Speaker 2: as a husband and wife and as a challenge, not
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  Speaker 2: only have our answers all changed, but we don't actually
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  Speaker 2: have behind this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were.
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  Speaker 3: We were pretty well aligned before we had children. And
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  Speaker 3: what the research tells us is that when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to couples and being on the same page, ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: of couples have more arguments after they have children, and
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  Speaker 3: they argue about so much stuff. The research says that
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  Speaker 3: they argue, I'm surprised that men have as much to
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  Speaker 3: say about many of these things that they do, since
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  Speaker 3: they affect mums so much more. But they argue about
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  Speaker 3: bottle or breast, They argue about cloth or disposable. They
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  Speaker 3: argue about co sleeping versus sleeping in their own bed.
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  Speaker 3: As the kids get older, they argue about how many
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  Speaker 3: extracurricular activities there are going to be or what school
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  Speaker 3: the kids are going to go to, the biggest the
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  Speaker 3: biggest argument, what do you think it would be about.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about discipline.
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  Speaker 3: So when we come back after the break, let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about tonight's webinar and specifically a couple of things that
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  Speaker 3: parents can do to get on the same page, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Their Happy Famili's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: For a happier family, Try a Happy Families membership, because
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  Speaker 2: a happy family doesn't just happen.
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  Speaker 3: Details at happyfamilies dot com dot au.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time
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  Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now. And we've been
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  Speaker 2: giving you a little bit of a sneak peek at
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  Speaker 2: tonight's webinar. Parenting on the same page.
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  Speaker 3: So the webinar is for all of our Happy Famili's members.
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  Speaker 3: If you are not a Happy Family's member, you've got
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  Speaker 3: to get on it. So the webinar normally costs thirty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: You can buy it in the Happy Family's shop right now.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're a member of the Happy Family's family,
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  Speaker 3: you know that if you've got a Happy Family's membership,
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  Speaker 3: it's twelve dollars a month or seventeen dollars a month
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  Speaker 3: for premium members. You save a whole lot of money
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  Speaker 3: and you get a monthly webinar and loads of other
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  Speaker 3: features that the membership brings you so much value, so
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  Speaker 3: cheap Tonight's webinar. As you said, Kylie, parenting on the
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  Speaker 3: same page.
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  Speaker 1: There are eight.
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  Speaker 3: Different things that I'm going to share with parents to
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  Speaker 3: get on the same page. Not to mention a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot of research about why we're not on the same
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  Speaker 3: page and what's going wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But I reckon if in.
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  Speaker 3: The time that we've got now, if we can share
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  Speaker 3: two or three, maybe four of those ideas, maybe we
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  Speaker 3: can help some people who are not Happy Family members
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  Speaker 3: to at least get some alignment in their relationship and
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  Speaker 3: their parenting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I picked my three favorites.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: So the first one. You can't change your spouse, don't
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  Speaker 2: we wish we could? Sometimes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, John Gotman did this. John Gotman is like the
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  Speaker 3: marriage guru of the globe. Nobody knows marriage like Gotman.
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  Speaker 3: He's just got this reputation of being extraordinary. And what
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  Speaker 3: Gotman's research shows is that when you this sounds really bad,
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. I don't know if he says it like this,
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  Speaker 3: but the way I say it is when you marry somebody,
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  Speaker 3: you actually marry a set of problems.
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  Speaker 1: Now, some people are like people relieve.
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  Speaker 2: Their socks under the kitchen table.
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  Speaker 1: You do, and to leave the toilet.
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  Speaker 3: See, though, you want to be really careful about the
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  Speaker 3: set of problems that you choose, because nobody is perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody brings with them a set of problems.
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  Speaker 1: And I think my.
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  Speaker 2: Dad warned you about mine, didn't it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to ignore that and just
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  Speaker 3: keep on talking. And what happens is that not only
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  Speaker 3: do you marry a set of problems, but so does
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  Speaker 3: your spouse. In other words, you become a set of
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  Speaker 3: problems to somebody else, as well as them being becoming
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  Speaker 3: a set of problems to you. And Gotman's research also
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  Speaker 3: shows that about seventy percent of the problems in your
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  Speaker 3: spouse will never change. Some will, some won't, But the
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  Speaker 3: ones that do change, they change because your spouse wants
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  Speaker 3: to change them, not because you pestered them and hassle
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  Speaker 3: them and harangue them and tell them that they need
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  Speaker 3: to be better and they're not quite who you thought
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  Speaker 3: they were when you married them. And the more you
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  Speaker 3: try to change your spouse, the more they dig their
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  Speaker 3: heels in, the harder they are to work with to
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  Speaker 3: get on the same page, to have any sort of
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  Speaker 3: alignment with it. Like it's a personal affront when you
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  Speaker 3: keep on saying you need to stop doing that, you're
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  Speaker 3: not good enough, change this, change that people don't like
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  Speaker 3: being around you when you do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's really tricky when your spouse has or your partner has,
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  Speaker 2: you know a t's right that it really kind of
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  Speaker 2: just rubs you up the wrong way, though it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to kind of work through that. So number two
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  Speaker 2: is build your relationship, And I think that this kind
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  Speaker 2: of can help us in that process.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things that happens when couples get out
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  Speaker 3: of alignment. It's kind of like, can you imagine being
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  Speaker 3: in a kayak or a canoe and trying to paddle
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  Speaker 3: in one direction while your paddling partner is pushing in
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  Speaker 3: a different direction. You go nowhere, or the person who's
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  Speaker 3: got more energy just overpowers the other one, and it's
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  Speaker 3: a miserable experience for everybody. That's what happens in a
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  Speaker 3: relationship when there's no alignment, when you can't get on
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  Speaker 3: the same page, and it's such a waste of energy.
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  Speaker 3: But if we can build our relationship, what happens then
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  Speaker 3: is we start to understand one another better, We start
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  Speaker 3: to work together, we start to be interested in one
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  Speaker 3: another again. You build the relationship by investing in what
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  Speaker 3: I call the emotional bank account, that is your kind
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  Speaker 3: to one another. You listen, you take influence from one another,
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  Speaker 3: You develop a sense of trust, and as that trust builds,
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  Speaker 3: you start to influence one another in hopefully positive ways.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that what happens when you date and you know you're.
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  Speaker 1: Well in the perfect world, yes, courtship, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yet somewhere along the line, we kind of lose sight
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  Speaker 2: of all of those, you know, things that we would
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  Speaker 2: do to build a relationship because life takes over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and as the relationship deteriorates, trust is undermined and
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  Speaker 3: influence goes out the window. It's so so important to
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  Speaker 3: be able to say to your partner, I trust you,
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  Speaker 3: I back you if this is the way that you
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  Speaker 3: think that we should go that I'm open to that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm willing to take influence from you, but I would
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  Speaker 3: love to know that if I feel strongly about something,
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  Speaker 3: that you might do that as well.
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  Speaker 1: It's about give and take.
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  Speaker 3: And the research again shows that in the relationships where
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  Speaker 3: we get this right, we have much higher relationship satisfaction.
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  Speaker 3: The research also shows that we have much higher sexual
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  Speaker 3: satisfaction and we also do better as parents.
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  Speaker 2: And the last one you've actually just touched on briefly
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  Speaker 2: is being open to influence. Now, this is probably the
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  Speaker 2: area where you know, as I read between the lines
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  Speaker 2: often and some of the comments, I feel like mums
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  Speaker 2: find particular struggles with their partners not wanting to take
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  Speaker 2: you influence or direction or guidance or even collaboration from them.
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  Speaker 2: They kind of see something one way and that's the
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  Speaker 2: only way that they're going to kind of move forward.
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  Speaker 2: So how do we work through that when we're open
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  Speaker 2: to it but our partner's not.
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  Speaker 3: Often we think we're open to it so long as
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  Speaker 3: they're willing to do what we say. So I might say,
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  Speaker 3: of course, I'm open to your influence. This is what
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  Speaker 3: I think we should do, and then I wait for
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  Speaker 3: you to agree, so I can say that I've been
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  Speaker 3: open to your influence because when you agree with me
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  Speaker 3: that I'm open to your influence. And I see that
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  Speaker 3: happening a lot, not just with dads but with mums
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  Speaker 3: as well, we get really fixed, we get really rigid.
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  Speaker 1: We're pretty sure that.
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  Speaker 3: The values that we're bringing to the situation are the
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  Speaker 3: right ones, and everyone should just bow down to what
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  Speaker 3: we're saying. So I would say to both partners, but
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  Speaker 3: especially to any dads who are listening every now and again,
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  Speaker 3: just pause and instead of saying this is what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do, or you never listen to me and
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  Speaker 3: this is how it's got to be, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: I'm really curious, what do you think. There's something that
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  Speaker 3: is just so powerful about saying to your partner, what
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  Speaker 3: do you think? And that's different to saying, oh, look,
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  Speaker 3: I don't care, figure it out for yourself, which many
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  Speaker 3: people will do because they become apathetic. And often one
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  Speaker 3: parent will say you look after the kids and I'll
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  Speaker 3: look after this, or you know that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's not what I'm saying. When you can really get alignment,
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  Speaker 3: you sit down and talk about an issue and say
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  Speaker 3: I'm really struggling with this and this is what I
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  Speaker 3: think we should do.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you think? What way would you like
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  Speaker 1: to go?
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