Latest / Simply Bitcoin / Pro-Bitcoin Candidate Javier Milei Loses, What Now? | EP 851
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- 0:07It's all going to zero against Bitcoin.
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- 0:24Yo, welcome to another episode of Simply Bitcoin Live.
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- 0:34state. Not going to lie.
- 0:36Bit of a set back. Javier Mali.
- 0:38He didn't lose, but he didn't win the Argentinian presidential
- 0:44election. There's set to be a runoff
- 0:47between him and Masa. Masa's part of the existing.
- 0:52He's part of the existing. Existing party who currently is
- 0:56in power in Argentina and they're set to have a run off
- 1:00election in November to determine who is going to be the
- 1:04next president of Argentina. I'm not going to lie, it was
- 1:08definitely a big upset for me because at the end of the day
- 1:12like it's it's literally in the slogan of our show guys.
- 1:15This is the separation of money and state and when you have a
- 1:19politician. Who is running for president of
- 1:22AG 20 Nation, right. We're not talking about a small
- 1:24country like El Salvador, but big country like Argentina who
- 1:29is saying things like, you know, I want to end the central bank
- 1:33and is saying things like, you know, Bitcoin is a good thing
- 1:36and you have all the legacy corporate media all around the
- 1:39world basically attacking this guy as if their lives depended
- 1:43on it. Tells me that this guy is over
- 1:46the target. So yes, I'm.
- 1:48I'm kind of disappointed that, you know.
- 1:50Javier Miley didn't win. So there's two things right?
- 1:54There is either some funny business, which we don't really
- 1:57have proof of that. So I'm not even going to double
- 1:59down on that. I'm not even going to double
- 2:04down on that narrative because I know that was something that was
- 2:06being, you know, talked about on Twitter.
- 2:09But most importantly, people chose to keep the party in power
- 2:12whose policies have led to more than 100% inflation like.
- 2:18We either way, regardless, we have a lot of work to do as
- 2:22bitcoiners to really get the message out.
- 2:25Clearly a lot of people, you know, have really bought into
- 2:28the Fiat matrix. People have really bought into
- 2:31the idea that the government can take care of them.
- 2:34Where as bitcoiners we know as Austrian economists we know that
- 2:38government itself, the state is, is essentially the problem.
- 2:42It's it's really the 'cause as to why Argentina's dealing with
- 2:45100% inflation. It's the reason as to why
- 2:48Argentina's going through the economic hardships that it's
- 2:51going through, right. But people are blind to that
- 2:54because you know, they they like, you know, the the, the the
- 2:59bus ticket subsidized, right. And a lot of the reasons as to
- 3:03why Masa was able to, you know, to win this is the is a fear
- 3:08campaign essentially convincing people that.
- 3:11You know, if Mali were getting the Mali to were to get in
- 3:14power, you know, all that support, all that government
- 3:17subsidies that people were getting from the government
- 3:20would just end and people would just starve to death.
- 3:23So this led me to, you know, a discussion with a friend of mine
- 3:28last night. At the end of the day, this is a
- 3:32cultural thing. This is a, you know, we say
- 3:36information narrative, trench warfare.
- 3:38But I think it's fundamentally deeper than that.
- 3:41Politics are downstream to downstream to culture.
- 3:44We have to win the culture that's that.
- 3:47Like it's as simple as that. And as Bitcoiners, we are not
- 3:50winning the culture war. We're not.
- 3:52That's just a reality. We're making content for other
- 3:55Bitcoiners. We're stuck in the Bitcoin echo
- 3:57chamber. We have to really be thinking of
- 4:00how to break out of the Bitcoin echo chamber and really how to
- 4:03get our message out there. Currently Bitcoin is not cool.
- 4:06Like people just don't see it as cool.
- 4:08Bitcoin is Internet magic, Internet Money for. 99% of
- 4:12people, people commingle Bitcoin and crypto.
- 4:15They don't see the overall movement.
- 4:17That's not to say that things won't change, but that is a call
- 4:22to action. That is a reality check as to we
- 4:25have to wake up and we really have to get this message out
- 4:27there. If we don't, the alternative for
- 4:31our the future generations or no, the consequence for the
- 4:35future generations, consequence for our children.
- 4:39Is really to live in, in slavery, central bank, digital
- 4:43currency, money, right? Because that's the future ahead
- 4:46of us. So that's really what's at
- 4:48stake. We have to win over the culture.
- 4:50We have to win over the hearts and minds of people.
- 4:53And if we do that, that's that's when things really start to
- 4:57change. That's when the idea of ending
- 5:00the central bank and then people not being scared of ending the
- 5:04central bank, That's when things really, really start to change.
- 5:09But until we do that, I think we're just going to keep seeing
- 5:12upsets like what happened in Argentina on Sunday.
- 5:18And I know, I know what a lot of people are saying, he still has
- 5:20a chance to win in November during the runoff.
- 5:23We have an article that kind of breaks down.
- 5:26So why his his chances are actually quite low.
- 5:28And I and I already had like that innate feeling after the
- 5:31results of last night. But what did you expect guys?
- 5:36Did you expect the central bankers, the party of Fiat, just
- 5:39to go gently into that good night?
- 5:41Did you think that they were just going to hand over the
- 5:42keys? No.
- 5:44This is, this is information narrative trench warfare.
- 5:47It literally go comes down to that.
- 5:50It's really about winning over the hearts and minds of people.
- 5:53It's really about convincing people that there's a better way
- 5:57to the Fiat way and just clearly, you know, not enough
- 6:02people are awake to that reality.
- 6:04In Argentina. And another like kind of
- 6:07reminder is like, you know, I think a lot of people were stuck
- 6:10within the, the Twitter echo chamber.
- 6:13Like, I think that they are so confident, but think about it,
- 6:16the majority of people are not on Twitter anyways.
- 6:18Opti, what's your take on all this, bro?
- 6:20Well, it's still a little early in the YouTube video.
- 6:24You know, I I don't really believe in politics nor
- 6:27elections much, but it really just goes to show what we've
- 6:29been saying for a while. It's the powers that be are so
- 6:34entrenched. And again, you know, I don't
- 6:37know if we're going to reference Buchelli's article, but we
- 6:39already know what's happening. You know, the powers that be
- 6:41have the monopoly on truth or truth in quotation marks.
- 6:45They still have, as we always talk about one the hearts and
- 6:49minds to the masses, whether you know it's a psyop or not.
- 6:53I think it's still goes to show that us big corners have an
- 6:56uphill obstacle here. And and I really do believe in,
- 6:59in what you've been saying as well in the beginning of this is
- 7:01that it is a culture war. Guys like everyone in the world
- 7:05is so saturated with the Fiat mindset that change is scary and
- 7:11what is Bitcoin but ultimate change here And like we are
- 7:15necessarily going to change everything once you get on the
- 7:19Bitcoin standard. And and we've been on Fiat money
- 7:22for the last 100 years. So of course it's turning around
- 7:25the Titanic and it's not going to be easy.
- 7:27But, you know, This is why we vote with our money and our
- 7:31feet. This is why we are bitcoiners.
- 7:34And you know, I'm not, I'm not much.
- 7:36I've never really been political.
- 7:38Only slowly but surely because Nico keeps harping on the idea
- 7:41that politics is still very important in the world, do I
- 7:45start to pay attention to it? But yeah, it's really about the
- 7:48money guys and the powers that be are not going to just gently
- 7:53let some outcast take over again.
- 7:55We we know how terrifying that is.
- 7:57We've seen that happen in the US, you know, and it's not going
- 8:02to be an easy battle. But hey, This is why we show up
- 8:04every single day. This is why we constantly try to
- 8:08iterate on our Bitcoin message and as Sophia always says, you
- 8:10know, make Bitcoin sexy, fun and cool.
- 8:13And this is what we're doing. I don't know about you guys, but
- 8:15if you ever talk to just normal people out there about Bitcoin,
- 8:19they all have a certain view on what Bitcoin is.
- 8:21They all have a a very comfortable view on Fiat money
- 8:26on the dollar system and this is what we're this is what we're
- 8:30we're dealing with Remember. I know, I know I went a little
- 8:33outside the Overton window last weekend or on Friday.
- 8:36But we are dealing with the Overton window right now guys,
- 8:39and it's about slowly but surely inching it to what we know to be
- 8:42the truth. And it's going to take a lot of
- 8:45work. And of course, hey, with all
- 8:47that being said, with all the bad news we've been seeing,
- 8:50Bitcoin is pumping right now and we're at above 30 K So I think
- 8:55the heuristic of we might be in a bull run considering the no,
- 8:59no bad news is making the price go down.
- 9:02So if Bitcoin is pumping in the face of everything going on in
- 9:04the world, it's making me hopeful.
- 9:07Yeah, 100% right. Bitcoin is pumping pit.
- 9:10The Honey Badger doesn't care. But it's a kind of reiterate to
- 9:14what your point about how you don't care about politics and
- 9:17and whatnot. And this is kind of like a
- 9:19theory in the book, The sovereign Individual, that
- 9:22essentially information technologies was going to make
- 9:25politics irrelevant. As more and more individuals are
- 9:28able to not only opt out of their nation states entirely and
- 9:32go to more favorable jurisdictions, and then that
- 9:35creates competition between jurisdictions and then it
- 9:38incentivizes them to actually create favorable conditions for
- 9:42people to migrate there. But also people are opting out
- 9:46of money. So I think over the long term I
- 9:48do believe that politics will become more and more irrelevant,
- 9:51however. During the transition period,
- 9:55which is what we're living through, I think you need people
- 9:58like Javier Miley. I think you need people like
- 10:02like Naimbu Kelly of El Salvador.
- 10:04You need those beachheads. You do because essentially, you
- 10:09know if all else kind of fails, right, you want people to
- 10:13migrate. You you want people to have a
- 10:15place to migrate. You want this like you want this
- 10:19jurisdiction, the state. To essentially protect
- 10:23bitcoiners, when the China ban happened, right?
- 10:26All those miners, they left China and they came to United
- 10:30States. They came to Texas, right?
- 10:33You, You want places like Texas. You want places where bitcoiners
- 10:37can migrate to, you know, if for whatever reason their country,
- 10:42their state becomes hostile towards it.
- 10:44You want those jurisdictions. And the more jurisdictions we
- 10:47have, the better, the more competition they'll be.
- 10:50And the safer bitcoiners will also be.
- 10:53So I get it, like a lot of bitcoiners are like inherently
- 10:55anti politics and whatever and rightly so.
- 10:58You should be right. Like a lot of us are just
- 11:00discouraged to be like the system is so broken why does it
- 11:03even matter anymore. But I think that during the
- 11:05transition period is very, very maybe it's a very popular
- 11:09opinion. I think they, I think it they
- 11:12they politics matter a lot and I think the more people come to
- 11:17terms with that. The faster I think we're going
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- 12:42Nico, before we go, great comment here and this is what
- 12:44you tell me all the time as well.
- 12:47The reason that elections are hard and the system is so
- 12:51corrupt is because people like us think politics are
- 12:53irrelevant. Wake the F up.
- 12:56Yeah, I, I, I, I, I agree 1,000,000%.
- 13:00Like, I forget it was like this this like Plato quote, like it
- 13:05was. It's super, super famous.
- 13:07But it's like essentially, like just because you don't care
- 13:10about politics doesn't mean that politics doesn't care about you
- 13:13or the other one. My shouts out to our boy
- 13:15Brandon. He says if you ignore politics,
- 13:18then you, like your Lesters will rule over you or something like
- 13:20that. Another played our quote
- 13:21anyways, anyways. Like again, Like, I get that
- 13:24it's very unpopular and then I get that bitcoiners are for
- 13:27small government and all that good stuff.
- 13:29But if you want more Naim Bouqueles, if you want more
- 13:33Javier Maliz to get in positions of power and in those positions
- 13:37of power, they end central banks and they make something like
- 13:42Bitcoin legal tender. The faster we'll get to a place
- 13:47where politics are irrelevant completely, altogether.
- 13:51But right now, when the world is on a Fiat standard, you're going
- 13:56to have Fiat politics, right? That's just the that's just the
- 13:59freaking reality of it, right? Imagine if this guy became
- 14:04president, right? Like, just, like, think about
- 14:06it. Just quick thought experiment.
- 14:08This guy became president and did the central bank.
- 14:11I know he didn't have enough congressional approval and
- 14:13whatever. But.
- 14:14Just introducing the ideas and the ideas started to work.
- 14:18What happens it that starts to spread like wildfire.
- 14:21That's why the media was so hell bent on attacking this guy,
- 14:25because this guy scared the living crap out of him.
- 14:28Crap out of them. Because the moment that you
- 14:30prove that there's a viable alternative to the Fiat system,
- 14:35and that system is better, guess what happens Other other people
- 14:41start to. Start to look around and they
- 14:44say, Oh my God, that's a good idea, we should start.
- 14:47That seems like a good idea. Maybe.
- 14:49Maybe it was the central bank who's responsible all along,
- 14:53right? It's all about moving that
- 14:54Overton window ever so slowly. Anyways, at the time of
- 14:57recording Bitcoin is almost at 31 K 30,125.
- 15:04SAT's per dollar 3244 Block Height 813,519 Blocks to having
- 15:1126,481 having estimate April 21st 2024 Total Lightning
- 15:17Network capacity 5215 Bitcoin capacity Value 160 million U.S.
- 15:23dollars Realized Monetary inflation 1.74% The market
- 15:28capitalization of Bitcoin $601 billion of the B.
- 15:33Bitcoin versus gold market cap 4.54% All right, everybody,
- 15:41let's move on to let's cover what happened, what the results
- 15:45were. This is Bloomberg results as of
- 15:49October 23rd, 2023, Argentina, Argentina election live results.
- 15:54So we have Sergio Masa who had 36.69% of the vote.
- 16:01He needed 40% of the vote to win outright and he needed a 10%
- 16:06lead over the 2nd place candidate, so he didn't have he
- 16:10didn't quite get that 40% so it's going to go off to a run
- 16:14off. Javier Mali got almost 30% of
- 16:17the vote and here is Patricia Bullrich who got 23.84% of the
- 16:24vote now. In good news, right, Javier
- 16:28Malik was a complete outsider, right.
- 16:31He, you know, I think he really represented a lot of the, the
- 16:35the populist movements that you're seeing all around the
- 16:38world that I think are reaction to people just being sick and
- 16:41tired of the economic situations that they're in due to broken
- 16:46money, due to Fiat. So the fact that he did beat an
- 16:50established player, an established party, I think is a
- 16:53win altogether. But again, it seems like people
- 16:57chose to, you know, re elect someone who's part of the party
- 17:04in power, whose response? Whose policies are responsible
- 17:08for the crazy inflation that Argentina's enduring.
- 17:11Which to me blows my mind, right?
- 17:13Like if you think about that, like just like just think about
- 17:16it from like the most simplistic sense people are voting in the
- 17:20person. That it like imagine dealing
- 17:24with 100% inflation and the elections come up and then you
- 17:27deal with the party. You deal with the person who's
- 17:31been part of the party who's all of that has happened under.
- 17:35And I think that this article bow tied.
- 17:38Mara great Twitter account did a great explanation as to why he
- 17:43believes all this happened right.
- 17:45So he says welcome Avatar. Yesterday was a slap in the face
- 17:49as a reminder that the X bubble we cherish.
- 17:52Is not a carbon copy of reality. As the results of the general
- 17:56election Argentina came rolling in, what are the consequences in
- 17:59the short term and what are the scenarios in a runoff for
- 18:02potential investors in Argentina?
- 18:04Did anything change after yesterday?
- 18:07It goes on to say, with 150% inflation and a potential
- 18:12hyperinflation at the doorstep, the dollar rate at 1000 at 1100
- 18:17poverty levels at almost 50%. Retirees receiving pensions of
- 18:22less than $100 a month and various political corruption
- 18:26scandals said he Omassa was the clear winner in yesterday's
- 18:30general elections in Argentina. For the Libertarians in the
- 18:33room, this was a cold shower many did not expect.
- 18:36Sure, there were cases of fraud here and there, but these kind
- 18:40of shenanigans happen every single election and do not move
- 18:43the scale with a shift like yesterday after the final
- 18:46results of the general elections came in.
- 18:49And it became increasingly clear a runoff was inevitable.
- 18:52One thing stands out. Masa was only 3.32% away from
- 18:57winning in the first round. It goes on to, say Masa's Fear
- 19:02campaign. In 2022, Kitchenism removed
- 19:07Minister of Economy Guzman and replaced him with Batakis, and
- 19:11after 23 days, Masa comes into the picture.
- 19:14A year later, the ruling party put forward their main
- 19:17candidate. Cuando de Pedro, who doesn't
- 19:20even last two days before they announce at the last minute that
- 19:23the real candidate is Masa. Masa wins the election and was
- 19:27close to winning it in the first round.
- 19:29This would not have happened unless Masa had huge backing
- 19:32from behind him for many different sectors.
- 19:35The results of the first round seem to show that people are not
- 19:38so bothered that Masa has brought inflation to monthly
- 19:41double digits, nor the increase in poverty and the distitution
- 19:45nor the lack of dollars for imports.
- 19:47Maca focused on installing fear around a potential Melee win.
- 19:52The state apparatus was well prepared to lend a helping hand,
- 19:56and public universities, public schools and agent train stations
- 20:00monitors helped out, but basically indicating Melee would
- 20:04burn it all to the ground if he won.
- 20:07Public healthcare education would disappear, which was not
- 20:11true, and bus and train tickets would triple if subsidies are
- 20:14taken off. So I just kind of want you guys
- 20:17to internalize that statement. The state apparatus teamed up
- 20:25with someone who was running for president to scare the public
- 20:31into making them think that if the anti central banker
- 20:36candidate was elected, all would burn to the ground.
- 20:41Think about that for a second. Think about that.
- 20:45Internalize that and remember Nayeem Bukele's article.
- 20:51They're willing to fight, lie, smear, destroy sensor,
- 20:54confiscate, print and do whatever it takes to maintain
- 20:57and increase their control over the truth and everything and
- 21:01everyone. Doesn't that sound familiar?
- 21:04Those tactics. And remember, remember they also
- 21:08charge Malay with a crime about the same month of the election,
- 21:16and Masa Masa's party said that they would eliminate the income
- 21:21tax altogether. So just just to kind of get an
- 21:25idea of how hard the central bankers really 'cause this is
- 21:30what it is, are fighting back against a potential change of
- 21:36the system, even though as bitcoiners we know it's for the
- 21:41betterment of everyone. But at the same time, as this
- 21:45article pointed out in the very, very beginning, I think it's
- 21:49also a shock to reality. To a lot of us.
- 21:53We have a lot of work to do. That is the reality.
- 21:57We there's no way to put that. There's no way to sugarcoat that
- 22:02because if that many people, and again, because I see this on
- 22:07Twitter, like a lot of people are like, no was fraud.
- 22:08Look, maybe there was, but I don't think it was enough to
- 22:14change the outcome of the election to that extent.
- 22:17He won by 6 percentage points. So I think as bitcoiners, we
- 22:24really got to wake the F up and realize how much education we
- 22:28need to do, how many people we need to convince, how many
- 22:33people will need to wake up to this reality.
- 22:37Here is something that we talk a lot about, which is the concept
- 22:42of the Overton Window, right? Clearly a lot of people, a big
- 22:48percentage of people, much more that much more so than in the
- 22:51developed world like the United States and Europe.
- 22:53Have your already bought into the idea that the central bank
- 22:56is the problem. Have already bought into the
- 22:59idea of Austrian economics. But clearly Argentina has
- 23:05spoken, and to most people, those those ideas are still
- 23:10unthinkable and they're still radical to the point that the
- 23:15government right, 'cause that's really it, is it?
- 23:18You know that according to this article, the state apparatus is
- 23:23able to convince people to SIOP people into thinking, look, if
- 23:29this guy gets in power, you know, he's gonna burn everything
- 23:34to the ground, like it literally says Masa's fear campaign,
- 23:39right. So how do you fight against
- 23:41that? Well, the reason that the way
- 23:43that you fight against that is by education.
- 23:45The way that you fight against that is by breaking out of the
- 23:48Bitcoin echo chamber and getting the people around you to wake up
- 23:51to this reality that, hey, Bitcoin is not going to boil the
- 23:55oceans. You don't need the government to
- 23:58survive. In fact, the government is
- 24:00making you poorer, right? But I think that so many people
- 24:05have been stuck in the Fiat matrix for so long that the very
- 24:11idea of even thinking about an alternative is absolutely
- 24:16terrifying to them. Unfortunately.
- 24:20Right? And I can't emphasize this
- 24:21enough, guys, this is not left versus right.
- 24:24So I 'cause I know a lot of people, if they have the
- 24:26ability, they're going to kind of misconceive it that way.
- 24:29No, no, no, no, no. It's about the party of Bitcoin,
- 24:33the party of peace, optimism, opportunity, freedom, where it's
- 24:39the party of slavery, central bank, digital currencies,
- 24:42nihilism, poverty, slavery. So it's not a left versus right
- 24:49issue. But yeah, we have a lot to work
- 24:54to do. We have a lot of work to do.
- 24:55As bitcoiners, Sophie did a great job interviewing some
- 25:00Argentinians here in Miami, and she asked them about Javier
- 25:04Miley. We posted the short yesterday on
- 25:06Simply Bitcoin's Twitter, and I'm pretty sure it went out on
- 25:08simply Bitcoin's YouTube account.
- 25:11And you can kind of see, like, look, people are just, they're
- 25:15just like not awake to this. And then this kind of brings me
- 25:18to this tweet by Samson Mao, who's like made it his life's
- 25:24mission for Bitcoin nation state adoption.
- 25:28And he says it. He lays it out.
- 25:29He lays out the case the biggest challenges for human
- 25:33civilization to overcome in the next decade are relearning what
- 25:37money is and why sound money is so important.
- 25:41Understanding that energy is abundant and can be harnessed by
- 25:44our technology, seeing other people's individuals not as part
- 25:49of a country or ethnic group. Bitcoin will be a key driver for
- 25:53achieving these three things and we could achieve them, we and if
- 25:58we can achieve them, we might have a future, right?
- 26:02So take what happened last night as a wake up call to basically,
- 26:10you know, motivate you a little bit to work a little bit harder
- 26:14to push that Bitcoin education, right?
- 26:17Because clearly, clearly, clearly, I think a lot of people
- 26:21misread this. Bitcoin Twitter misread this.
- 26:26I think it was part of the Bitcoin echo chamber, right?
- 26:30But that's the reality. That's the reality, man.
- 26:33Anyways, Opti, what's your take on all this?
- 26:35I'm sure you're not surprised. Yeah man, you know, PSA.
- 26:44Putting the caveat out there, As much as I would love to see Javi
- 26:48MLA become president and get another South American country.
- 26:52To get on the Bitcoin standard or at least move away from their
- 26:55very bad Fiat currencies, I'm I'm obviously not that
- 26:59surprised. Like we we we constantly talk
- 27:01about this, even all of last week we were talking about the
- 27:04control of media and how, you know, for lack of better terms
- 27:08it's usually running very good psyops on the people.
- 27:12But anyways, with all that being said, I think the classic trope
- 27:16of the devil you know is better than the one that you don't.
- 27:20And we all know and and shout out to the chat because I think
- 27:23we all kind of at least saw that Peter McCormick documentary.
- 27:27What was it called? Like something about the money?
- 27:29I I forget the title of it. But he was interviewing
- 27:32Argentina people, and as much as they have heard about Bitcoin,
- 27:37many of them are still just so depending on the government.
- 27:40And when you run a fear campaign like Masa was doing, where it's
- 27:43like, hey, if you vote for this new guy, this outsider, like
- 27:46you're going to be poorer than you are.
- 27:47And we all know how strong fear campaigns are and that's why
- 27:51they constantly run fear campaigns is because once you're
- 27:54fearful, you don't really think critically.
- 27:57And of course also it's hard to think outside of the first,
- 28:01second, third order effects that that we are seeing right now in
- 28:04the world. And everyone is just trying to
- 28:05get by so we understand exactly what is going on in the world
- 28:09right now, especially when we always quote that naive Buchelli
- 28:12article. The monopoly on truth is still
- 28:14very, very strong right now. And just it's kind of goes to
- 28:18what we've been saying for a while about the Twitter echo
- 28:21chamber and how we have to break out of the Twitter echo chamber
- 28:24and also realize like, look, most people aren't on Twitter.
- 28:27Most people don't understand what the hell we're talking
- 28:28about on Twitter and shouts out to Sophie for doing that
- 28:31interview. Because she was talking to
- 28:33normal people and they were all like, yeah, like, you know, it
- 28:37sounds good and all, but, like, I don't really trust him.
- 28:40Like, I'm, I'm kind of more trustworthy on the people that I
- 28:44already know. And we already know that, hey,
- 28:46it hasn't all gone up in ashes yet.
- 28:48And if you're going to throw a huge curveball at us with a
- 28:51totally different person that is literally kind of running on a
- 28:54campaign of like, we're going to change everything, It's
- 28:57definitely scary. And people don't, like, change.
- 28:59And this really leads me to. What we've been hinting on for
- 29:03well, not even hinting on hitting on a lot on the show
- 29:06about the Overton window. Guys.
- 29:07Like we got to remember, wait, which way is the best way to do
- 29:10it? OK, most of us are big corners
- 29:14over here on outside of the Overton window.
- 29:17Someone said don't be inside the Overton window, don't be a
- 29:19square. Well, most of us.
- 29:20Big corners are way outside the Overton window, and most people
- 29:23aren't even really in the Overton window yet.
- 29:25The Overton window is just that, like compromise in the middle,
- 29:29that kind of sues everyone's. You know, brain and and it's
- 29:33it's what's it's what's allowed to be talked about.
- 29:35And we got to slowly but surely inch people toward what we're
- 29:38talking about. So yes, maybe he's not going to
- 29:41win. Maybe he doesn't have a chance
- 29:42to win. But at least this conversation
- 29:44is growing and most more people are talking about what we've
- 29:47been talking about. And now, for better or worse,
- 29:50like that conversation is being had, whether it's on the
- 29:52political level, whether it's on the corporate media level,
- 29:55whether it's in a personal level, like people are waking up
- 29:57and asking the same questions we ask all the time.
- 30:01Why is inflation so high? Why are we getting poorer?
- 30:03What is going on is, is politics rigged?
- 30:08Like what is going on? Are these people working for our
- 30:11best interest or are they working for their own best
- 30:13interest? And again, this is all an uphill
- 30:16battle. This is all the obstacles and
- 30:18and the the inching towards moving people on the Bitcoin
- 30:21standard and it's just going to take time.
- 30:23So unfortunately this didn't happen, but you know.
- 30:26Nico, I I wasn't putting too much weight into it.
- 30:28I really like some of the stuff he was saying.
- 30:30I would have loved to see him win.
- 30:32But hey, it just goes to show that we are still dealing with
- 30:36the Fiat brain. And more and more and more it's
- 30:39becoming obvious that hey, there's a lot of work to be
- 30:41done. And most people still think that
- 30:43we're the crazy ones, that we're the Internet nerd money guys and
- 30:46like you guys are radicals and so it's it's only going to be
- 30:49time. And of course, hey, everyone's
- 30:51saying in the chat, you know, we just crossed 31 K so as number
- 30:54goes up, he lost in Bitcoin pumps, right?
- 30:59I think that's like a testament to Honey Badger don't care.
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- 34:18All right everybody, Speaking of fear campaigns, this is, excuse
- 34:25my language, but I'm going to say it anyways, the biggest
- 34:29steaming pile of shit I've seen in a long time.
- 34:33This is a straight propaganda attack on Bitcoin.
- 34:39This article which inevitably led to Elizabeth Warren and a
- 34:44lot of other politicians writing a letter to the White House
- 34:49which inevitably led to Fin CEN proposing these crazy
- 34:56regulations on Bitcoin, Anti Bitcoin regulations turned out
- 35:03to be a total hoax. This has happened before.
- 35:10Remember, they say, one of the arguments, One of the talking
- 35:14points is if it doesn't come from mainstream media, which I
- 35:18don't call it mainstream anymore, I call it corporate
- 35:20media. It's misinformation.
- 35:23But what happens when the mainstream media gets it wrong?
- 35:31Do you guys remember the war in Iraq?
- 35:34Weapons of mass destruction? Do you guys remember that that
- 35:39came from the New York Times, this recent move by the Fin Cen,
- 35:45It all started. It all originated from this
- 35:49article. You look at it, you look at this
- 35:54and you think this must be real. So when we talk about narrative
- 36:01trench warfare, when we talk about winning over the hearts
- 36:04and minds, we failed to do that in Argentina.
- 36:09We failed. We failed to use Bow Tie's own
- 36:15words. The state apparatus beat us
- 36:21there. They captured the narrative.
- 36:24They won that and this is what this is.
- 36:28This was, this is an example of narrative trench warfare.
- 36:34The articles that we cover from the New York Times, whether it's
- 36:38the attack on Bitcoins, energy use, whether it's the narrative
- 36:42that Russians are going to use Bitcoin to circumvent U.S.
- 36:45sanctions, those are all examples of narrative trench
- 36:49warfare. They're trying to set the tone.
- 36:51They're trying to scare you. It is the definition of a fear
- 36:56campaign. Hamas militant behind Hamas
- 37:02militants behind Israel attack raise millions in crypto.
- 37:10And that led to Senator Elizabeth Warren leads lawmakers
- 37:15to push administration on crypto backed terrorism.
- 37:19And you read this and you're like holy cow, like this is bad
- 37:23guys, this is really, really bad.
- 37:26They used crypto to raise millions.
- 37:28How could we let these terrorists do that?
- 37:32Remember that same type of thinking was the justification
- 37:36to pass the Bank Secrecy Act in the 1970s, which led to that
- 37:43$10,000 limit, right, Which in the 1970s is the equivalent to
- 37:4870K or 80K today. And that led to the infamous
- 37:54Patriot Act that was passed in the 2000s.
- 37:58That still remains law and that has been used against American
- 38:04citizens. And this is, you can't just look
- 38:10at what Elizabeth Warren is saying because you say, OK,
- 38:12Elizabeth Warren is just concerned about terrorism.
- 38:16But if you actually look at the bill that Elizabeth Warren is Co
- 38:19sponsoring, you know that she's not a big fan of this thing and
- 38:25have we've read you guys this bill many times.
- 38:27So what is the bill that she's proposing?
- 38:30Extend ban secrecy act responsibilities including KYC
- 38:34requirements to digital asset wallet providers, minors,
- 38:37validators and other network participants that may act to
- 38:39validate, secure, facilitate digital asset transactions.
- 38:42Basically if you run a node, a miner or if you are a hardware
- 38:47wallet or a software wallet maker, you have to KYCI don't
- 38:54even know if that's possible with miners or nodes.
- 38:57So and what Pierre Richard basically said is that this is
- 39:01just a de facto ban and then check this out address a major
- 39:05gap with respect to unhosted digital wallets, which would
- 39:08allow individuals to bypass AML and sanctions check by directing
- 39:13FinCEN to finalize and implement its December 2020 proposal rule,
- 39:18which would require banks and money service providers to
- 39:20verify customer and counterparty identities.
- 39:23So interesting, Vincent, right, Interesting.
- 39:27OK. So you're saying, Nikko, you
- 39:29know what? Let's give, let's always the
- 39:31benefit of the doubt. You're saying, Nikko, this is
- 39:34justified. These are terrorists.
- 39:36This is horrible. Look at what look at what
- 39:38happened in, in Israel. These are terrorists.
- 39:41They kill people. However, things started to come
- 39:45out and just like in the 2000s, there were no weapons of mass
- 39:51destruction. It looks like the reporting from
- 39:54the Wall Street Journal wasn't exactly accurate.
- 39:58But here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen.
- 40:00The damage is done. The narrative is set.
- 40:03The letter to the White House has been sent.
- 40:06The Finn sent. Responded.
- 40:09We're gonna cover that on tomorrow's episode.
- 40:10And Ruston Ruston, relieved, released a simply original
- 40:14covering exactly what the Vincent did yesterday, So check
- 40:19that out. But here's Sam Callahan said.
- 40:22Last week, the Wall Street Journal published an article
- 40:25claiming about $90 million worth of crypto was used to fund
- 40:28Hamas, a serious claim that gathered significant attention.
- 40:33In response to the article, anti Bitcoin politicians directly
- 40:37linked the Wall Street Journal article as evidence in a letter
- 40:40to the White House and Treasury to quote address the serious
- 40:45national security threats posed by crypto's used to finance
- 40:48terrorism. Later it was confirmed that the
- 40:51article was patently false. It was straight up fake news.
- 40:56This was confirmed by chain analysis, which ran the numbers.
- 41:00Turns out the authors of the article mistakenly counted an
- 41:03entire an entire exchanges trading volume, 82,000,000 for a
- 41:08terrorist group's address. Rookie move.
- 41:11Here's the thing guys, I do not think it's a mistake.
- 41:16You can give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was a
- 41:19mistake. But there's a history going back
- 41:25to literally the early 1900s, when the New York Times reported
- 41:31that what was going on in the Soviet Union was great when they
- 41:35purposely hit the the hit of the Ukrainian genocide called the
- 41:39Holmador. And it wasn't until the 90s that
- 41:42they apologized for hiding all of that.
- 41:45The original author of those articles got a fucking Pulitzer
- 41:48Prize Prize, just like the original author that published
- 41:52that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
- 41:54She got a prize too. So if these papers have a
- 41:59history of obfuscating information, lying, getting it
- 42:04completely wrong, Forgive me if I'm skeptical in believing that
- 42:10it was just a rookie mistake. How convenient for Elizabeth
- 42:15Warren that this was reported in the Wall Street Journal.
- 42:19Very convenient. Did the paper retract what they
- 42:23said? Did they retract the letter to
- 42:25the White House? Did FIN CEN walk it back?
- 42:29No. How convenient.
- 42:31Just give them ammunition to tack.
- 42:35The thing that people are using to opt out of government money?
- 42:40How convenient. Oh, look at that.
- 42:44Of the roughly $82,000,000 in cryptocurrency received by this
- 42:48address, about 450,000 worth of the funds were transferred from
- 42:52the known terror affiliated wallet.
- 42:54Given the activity of the address, the person or group of
- 42:57people controlling it is likely not the same person that
- 43:01controls the terror affiliated wallet, but is rather a service
- 43:06provider that knowingly or unknowingly facilitated the
- 43:09terror financing activity. So the Wall Street Journal for
- 43:12crypto use in financing Hamas was off by over 99%.
- 43:17My question is where is your retraction article?
- 43:20Wall Street Journal? Where is the article describing
- 43:23why your reporters were blatantly wrong about this?
- 43:26If you don't retract, politicians with an agenda will
- 43:30likely continue to use this fake news as evidence to attack an
- 43:33industry they have a personal vendetta against.
- 43:36Please fix it. Guess what?
- 43:38The Wall Street Journal hasn't fixed Jack shit.
- 43:41What a freaking coincidence. And then this leads me to the
- 43:45iron law of politician and central banker Project
- 43:49projection. And I tweeted this out.
- 43:51I said they project onto Bitcoin what it is they are guilty of
- 43:54themselves. They say US lawmakers leads US
- 43:59Senator Warren leads lawmakers to push administration on crypto
- 44:02backed terrorism. Here is a clip of Ted Cruz
- 44:10saying the Biden administration poured hundreds of 1,000,000
- 44:13into Gaza which is controlled by Hamas.
- 44:16They had to exempt themselves from an American anti terrorism
- 44:20laws to do it. Their political agenda was so
- 44:23important they were willing to risk money going to terrorists.
- 44:28So break it down for a second. OK, just break it down for a
- 44:31second, right? 450,000 from the crypto money
- 44:38laundering millions purposely coming out of the current
- 44:44administration of which they had to circumvent laws in order to
- 44:49send to Hamas to send to that region, not simply Bitcoin
- 44:55Saying this. AUS Senator is saying this.
- 44:58Do you see the hypocrisy? They don't care about what is
- 45:03true and what is not true. It's becoming very apparent.
- 45:08They care about power and remember Naimbu Kele's words.
- 45:13They Naimbu Kele says it perfectly.
- 45:15They're willing to fight, lie, smear, destroy, censor,
- 45:19confiscate, print and do whatever it takes to maintain
- 45:23and increase their control over the truth and everything and
- 45:27everyone. This is pure blatant hypocrisy,
- 45:32misrepresentations, lies and spin.
- 45:37What they accused Bitcoin of, they literally did it
- 45:40themselves. With dollars.
- 45:43With dollars. And this has real life
- 45:49consequences. This isn't just you know, oh
- 45:52whoopty Doo, you know, It is what it is This led to.
- 45:57FinCEN proposes insane special measures.
- 46:01We're going to cover this in depth tomorrow, but it is no
- 46:05joke. Do you want to run a lightning
- 46:08node if you want to do a multi SIG collaborative custody?
- 46:13A bunch of those things. If this FinCEN proposal gets
- 46:18processed, if it gets put into legislation, you now have to
- 46:23report that Collaborative Custody Multi sig to FinCEN.
- 46:28You now have to report that lightning node, what you're
- 46:30running with someone else to FinCEN because of a fake article
- 46:35they have not retracted, blaming Bitcoin being used to launder
- 46:41millions of dollars, even though they did the exact same thing
- 46:45with dollars. Bonkers.
- 46:50Absolutely nuts, right? So this is just another example
- 46:56of what happened in Argentina. Fear narrative spin.
- 47:01Naim Bukele hit it on that article.
- 47:03He hit the nail on the head. He's telling you exactly what
- 47:06their playbook is. You know the only defense
- 47:09against this is shine the light of truth.
- 47:12Expose the lies, hypocrisies and misrepresentations.
- 47:16Expose it with the truth. Wake people up.
- 47:21And if you wake people up, if you do it enough, then when they
- 47:25see the, you know the, oh, it's the Wall Street Journal.
- 47:27It must be true. And they look back and they're
- 47:30like, wait a second, that's bullshit.
- 47:34And it's not like we're not making progress, We are making
- 47:36progress. Last week we reported that the
- 47:39the New York Times got their verification check removed.
- 47:42Why? Because Elon was sick and tired
- 47:45of them peddling bullshit. So just because you come from
- 47:49the Wall Street Journal or just because you come from the New
- 47:52York Times doesn't make it any different than when Coin
- 47:55Telegraph published the article saying that the Spot Bitcoin
- 47:58BlackRock ETF was approved. It's just crazy.
- 48:03It's the the only difference is that when the New York Times
- 48:06reply suggests that a country has weapons of mass destruction
- 48:11they can use that to invade another country and kill
- 48:14hundreds of thousands of people. I don't think coin Telegraph has
- 48:18that level of influence. This is just dude I don't know
- 48:22Opti like this I I saw this play out this is this is I'm telling
- 48:27you this is this was a blatant attack on Bitcoin that used the
- 48:32tragedy that is happening in Palestine and Israel as cover
- 48:38right. We read you guys, we read you
- 48:40guys that that that quote from Winston Churchill never let,
- 48:44never let a good crisis go to waste.
- 48:47Well, they totally didn't do that.
- 48:50They're ready. They've been waiting for this on
- 48:52the sidelines and they're like Bitcoin terrorism, Bitcoin
- 48:55terrorism. Anyways, that's my take, Opti.
- 48:59What's your take on all this, brother?
- 49:02OK, well not to go to outside the Overton window again Nico,
- 49:07but my being kind of generous here.
- 49:14My first take, I'm not surprised that they don't understand how
- 49:18Bitcoin works. That's that's like my generous
- 49:20take. You know, I I'm sure that
- 49:23reading blockchain data is probably hard for these
- 49:26government. Politicians and bureaucrats, so
- 49:28obviously not surprised that there was a misreading.
- 49:31Again, being generous with with the quote, misreading of the
- 49:35data, that's my generous take. My not so generous take is
- 49:39basically what everyone saying in the chat.
- 49:42I I see this more as a coordinated.
- 49:45Attack in my In my opinion, shouts out to Parker Lewis for
- 49:48giving us the The meme of corporate press is really just
- 49:52government press. And here we're seeing, you know,
- 49:55in real time with receipts, with proof that bureaucrats and the
- 50:01press, the media, are working in cahoots to do stuff that is
- 50:06going against the population like.
- 50:09I personally, again, maybe I just had my tinfoil hat on.
- 50:13I I see this more as a coordinated attack.
- 50:15It's not like one of these things like, oh, they didn't
- 50:16know what was happening. They're not going to retract the
- 50:19statement because, you know, it was just bad press.
- 50:21It's like, no, I am pretty sure that behind the scenes they knew
- 50:24exactly what they were doing and they're trying to do their best
- 50:28to gaslight the population and scare again, scare people from
- 50:32not using Bitcoin. It's the same playbook over and
- 50:34over and over. Fear is the campaign, and
- 50:37they're doing whatever they can. To scare people away from using
- 50:41freedom money. So I am not surprised that we
- 50:44are seeing a coordinated governmental press attack here.
- 50:48Obviously it's not a full on like direct direct attack on
- 50:52Bitcoin, but this is as direct as it's going to get in the
- 50:54meantime And then. It's something we say all the
- 50:57time here, guys, man. Fiat is for the real criminals,
- 51:00and the projection is so strong coming out of these bureaucrats.
- 51:03They constantly say what we're doing when this is what they're
- 51:07doing behind the scenes. And as long as they have the
- 51:09press, they can make up and spin whatever truth they want,
- 51:12because most people still seem to believe in the legitimacy of
- 51:16the corporate press. And the last point.
- 51:19You know, in the face of all this stuff, Honey Badger is
- 51:21pumping and you just love to see it.
- 51:23It's just like, OK, it's so beautiful that no matter what
- 51:26they're throwing at us, Bitcoin price doesn't care.
- 51:30And it just goes to show that, you know, cash rules everything
- 51:34around me or Bitcoin rules everything around me.
- 51:36And it's really all about money. It will always be about money.
- 51:40And as we move further into this 4th turning, the game is
- 51:44starting to unravel. And the more that I see these
- 51:47politicians, these bureaucrats overstep, it just goes to show
- 51:51that I know that we are winning and the pendulum is swinging
- 51:54towards our direction and we're going to see this accelerate.
- 51:59Like they are accelerating the process by scrambling and losing
- 52:03their minds and doing whatever they can to paint us all as
- 52:06criminals. And all we really want to do is
- 52:08hold on a money that they can't steal from us Again, as much as
- 52:12they say that they're out here for the the public good, we got
- 52:15to always remember it is all looting guys.
- 52:18You're either for theft or you're against theft.
- 52:20You're either for Bitcoin or you're for slavery.
- 52:23So personally, I'm not surprised.
- 52:26Maybe I'm just that black pilled when it comes to government
- 52:28press and politicians and all that.
- 52:31And so this is not surprising, but it is very nefarious that we
- 52:34are seeing this happen. And you know, I just really hope
- 52:38that people will wake up and we don't have to, you know, see
- 52:43these rules get approved. Like this is absolutely
- 52:45ridiculous. But am I surprised?
- 52:47No. We have so many accounts of the
- 52:50governmental press saying something.
- 52:52They enacting laws and. US average citizens having to
- 52:56deal with this and This is why it is Bitcoin or to slavery.
- 52:59This is why Bitcoin is free to money is because this is all
- 53:02back because of the money printer.
- 53:04It's all Fiat problems. Like we are living in a Fiat
- 53:06world and everyone has a saturated brain with Fiat.
- 53:10And so again, back to the numbers, we're just.
- 53:14In the process of trying to educate people and show them
- 53:17that, hey, it's not as bad as they're painting us out to be
- 53:20like, the world will get better. And most of the world's problems
- 53:24is because of the very people that you need protection from.
- 53:26The very people that are telling you to not use Bitcoin are the
- 53:29ones you need protection from. Guilty of what it is.
- 53:32They're claiming Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and they're guilty of
- 53:36doing what it is they claim Bitcoin does.
- 53:40Like that is the craziest part about all of this.
- 53:44Maybe it's like again, like the projection never fails.
- 53:47Like it's just it's a clear projection.
- 53:50And then they I I think it maybe they'll do, they do it to
- 53:53obfuscate what it is they are doing, doing themselves.
- 53:57Because that's never talked about like Bitcoin is the
- 54:00problem. But somehow them doing the exact
- 54:04same thing in dollars. No, that's OK.
- 54:08Like, I I just don't think they really care about the things
- 54:12that they say they care about. I I think that like, Fiat has
- 54:16Frankensteined the system so much that I think governments no
- 54:22longer represent the people that they say they represent.
- 54:27I think governments really represent special interest
- 54:30groups themselves, these large you know, international
- 54:35corporations. I don't think it's no longer by
- 54:39the people, for the people and I don't think it can be by the
- 54:41people, for the people as long as Fiat exists.
- 54:45Like I, I I just think that's the reality man.
- 54:47Maybe it's a sad reality, but like I it's clear as day to me.
- 54:51Anyways guys, I want to give a shout out to our.
- 54:53Wait, wait, wait. Nico, before you go before you
- 54:55go clear clear up. This is bigger than blue or red
- 54:59or not I don't think. I don't think this is either
- 55:03blue or red. I just think that this is just
- 55:05Fiat. Like it's just like, I don't
- 55:08think it's blue or red. It's Fiat versus orange, like
- 55:11it's Fiat versus Bitcoin. This like if you want to deal
- 55:14with more Fiat shit like there you go.
- 55:16Here it is. It's right.
- 55:17It's right in front of you. Anyways, guys, I want to give a
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- 56:42Well, last week Nico and I were speculating on the price.
- 56:47And I think I got triggered where Niko was being a bear and
- 56:52I was being more bullish and everyone was saying we were both
- 56:55being bearish. Well, I forget, I think it was
- 56:58Thursday. Bitcoin Times article dropped
- 57:02and I don't know, just it's Monday.
- 57:04I'm speculating, I think we're showing in real time that no one
- 57:08knows what's going on with the price.
- 57:10But I kind of want to argue against the idea.
- 57:14That we, as bitcoiners always talk about about diminishing
- 57:17returns on the Bitcoin scale. And yeah, we're going there,
- 57:22Nico, we're going there. And This is why This is why
- 57:25we're doing this, so that we can kind of argue on it a little
- 57:27bit. All right, guys.
- 57:27So here I am on trading view and we have the Bitcoin liquid
- 57:32index, which if you guys are unfamiliar with this is probably
- 57:35the best. Chart to view the long term
- 57:38frame and long term trajectory of Bitcoin.
- 57:41Everyone knows this like curve where we're going to see Bitcoin
- 57:44go. There's the idea that maybe we
- 57:46are going to see diminishing returns and that you know moving
- 57:49forward is going to follow this trend line and you know Bitcoin
- 57:54is always going to go up anyways.
- 57:55I really like this. Post here from the Bitcoin
- 57:58Times, which is kind of the flip side of that idea that we are
- 58:03only going to see diminishing returns moving forward, which is
- 58:05kind of an idea that no one really knows.
- 58:07We're all kind of in the dark in regards to how this is going to
- 58:10happen, but I think this is a pretty good argument against it,
- 58:14so. Bitcoin Times here or at
- 58:16timeless Bitcoin on Twitter goes, Bitcoin doesn't just break
- 58:19all your models, Bitcoin breaks all the cycles.
- 58:22Bitcoin isn't just some 4th turning minutiae or the end of
- 58:25another generational cycle, it's the fulcrum for the
- 58:27transformation from a Type 0 into a Type One civilization.
- 58:31Characteristic of the tumultuous Before Bitcoin period is the
- 58:35creation of a multitude of models and cyclical theories,
- 58:38whether the hop cycle, the Kondra chefs waves, the
- 58:41Schumterian cycle, short and long term business or debt
- 58:44cycles. A few These cycles are how we
- 58:47make sense of a complex, emerging history.
- 58:49Again, the meme Hard times create strong men, strong men
- 58:52create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men
- 58:55create hard times. They may be useful to forecast a
- 58:57world in which the same paradigm applies and where the same
- 59:00forces function, but they are utterly useless posts to
- 59:03transition onto a big total Bitcoin standard in this sense.
- 59:07Bitcoin may be the genesis of a truly objective record of
- 59:11history in which events are recorded on the time chain
- 59:13Forever, Laura Forever, and we got a quote here.
- 59:16This is why Wallace many won't want to believe it.
- 59:19Bitcoin breaks all the cycles, not just the models, as Siler
- 59:22Sailor said to Mr. Quad Poor. And just adding to this, Petsky,
- 59:26at the very bottom goes all cycles today have been
- 59:28influenced by money that can be broken, debased, inflated or
- 59:31manipulated. What happened when we remove
- 59:33that piece of the puzzle? What happens when money is
- 59:35incorruptible? Do the same sort of cycles
- 59:38affect us or do we enter a new age?
- 59:39And of course, dare I say it, fix the money, fix the world.
- 59:43And so this kind of got me thinking of the oh wait,
- 59:46actually, before I go on, let's look at this chart here and.
- 59:51I've never seen this chart before, so shouts out to Bitcoin
- 59:54Times for posting this. And I think we've all kind of
- 59:56hinted on this and we've all kind of thought about this.
- 59:59Yes. And if we're looking at the past
- 1:00:03to forecast the future, it does seem like the Bitcoin price is
- 1:00:06just going to go on a steady trajectory.
- 1:00:08We'll see diminishing return, but it's always going to go up
- 1:00:10forever. But this chart here is is a
- 1:00:14different one and I really like it.
- 1:00:16So of course the BB which is before Bitcoin and the after
- 1:00:19Bitcoin timeline. And here this is, you know,
- 1:00:22fire. And you can see there's sine
- 1:00:25waves of human progress. And then it goes up and down.
- 1:00:29And this is all the before Bitcoin times.
- 1:00:31And then we hit the Bitcoin genesis block and we are in this
- 1:00:35process of the great transition where all your models are broken
- 1:00:39and this is all after Bitcoin. And then there's a Bitcoin event
- 1:00:42horizon and we don't know what that is.
- 1:00:43We don't know when that is. This is, of course all
- 1:00:45speculation. And then we will get to, as we
- 1:00:48always talk about the mythical hyper bitcoinization.
- 1:00:50And this is where all cycles are broken and human flourishing
- 1:00:54finds escape velocity. Well, this kind of got me
- 1:00:58thinking too, and I'm not the first one to talk about this.
- 1:01:00I think the first one to talk about this was like Pierre
- 1:01:02Rochard or something. It's the idea of the S curve,
- 1:01:05and I think Bitcoin is following this S curve and we are seeing
- 1:01:10that. We are viewing exponential rises
- 1:01:13in Bitcoin. Have we finally gotten to that
- 1:01:17gradually, then suddenly moment in Bitcoin?
- 1:01:19I don't know. Maybe I'm just stupidly bullish
- 1:01:21where I think that we will be seeing a ton of capital flowing
- 1:01:24into Bitcoin. We will be seeing an even larger
- 1:01:27amount of humans jumping into Bitcoin as we are seeing
- 1:01:30constantly. The world and the Fiat world is
- 1:01:32all going crazy and people are going to look for alternatives.
- 1:01:36People will look for something that is stable.
- 1:01:38And of course, we all know one Bitcoin equals one Bitcoin.
- 1:01:40It is not that Bitcoin is volatile, it is that the Fiat
- 1:01:43world is volatile and Bitcoin is just fluctuating that.
- 1:01:47So let's just jump in what is the S cover A little bit and
- 1:01:49I'll end with a meme and then we'll have me and Nico go back
- 1:01:52and forth for a second. So S curve estimating the demand
- 1:01:55for new products is a challenging exercise for any
- 1:01:57firm. This is especially true when the
- 1:01:59new product has new technology. One such example is a transition
- 1:02:02of cell phones or personal devices with keyboards to just
- 1:02:05screens from the BlackBerry to the iPhone.
- 1:02:07Another challenging situation is when the new product is just a
- 1:02:10limited upgrade in function, like a cell phone upgraded with
- 1:02:12a bigger screen, better camera or more memory.
- 1:02:15Often the S curve which is I'll show you the bottom, is a
- 1:02:17helpful computational method for organizing your analysis.
- 1:02:20They are very helpful for other areas such as recovery from a
- 1:02:23medical issue, project management, learning curves,
- 1:02:25chemistry and technology transitions like pay phones.
- 1:02:29A cell phone. S curves are named based on the
- 1:02:32shape they have 4 stages. One, stage 1A slope is small in
- 1:02:36terms of new product introduction, slow growth of
- 1:02:38market share. Stage two slope is large, fast
- 1:02:41growth in market share, business takes off.
- 1:02:44Stage 3 slope is small slow growth to 0 growth and stage 4
- 1:02:48slope is 0. No growth in market share.
- 1:02:51So here we have the S curve and it just translating this.
- 1:02:56Speculating, we'll argue a little bit about this thinking
- 1:02:59of the Bitcoin price, have we seen the stage 2 fast growth in
- 1:03:03Bitcoin? Is that behind us?
- 1:03:05Maybe it is only time will tell. Only looking backwards as we
- 1:03:09know 2020 is hindsight or hindsight is 2020.
- 1:03:11We'll see here. You know, slow stage 1, slow
- 1:03:13growth, stage 2, fast growth, stage 3, slow growth.
- 1:03:17And then finally, it levels off. And again, going back here,
- 1:03:22which part of this are we on? We know that Bitcoin is
- 1:03:26following an S curve adoption cycle.
- 1:03:28It is a new technology, this new paradigm.
- 1:03:31Is this the fast growth era or have we barely seen the slow
- 1:03:36growth going into fast growth? And chefs out to our boy Austin
- 1:03:40Herbert, because he's not the first one to do this.
- 1:03:43But I've seen this before and it really kind of connects with the
- 1:03:47Bitcoin Times article. Are we going to see a massive S
- 1:03:51curve or have we already seen it?
- 1:03:53But as you can see, have we seen that Bitcoin event horizon where
- 1:03:57we finally get that escape velocity?
- 1:04:00I don't know, but I like to think in bullish terms.
- 1:04:03I don't want to oversell it, but I don't know.
- 1:04:07I just, I feel when I look back at this that three points on the
- 1:04:12data chart is not enough to know where we are headed and I'm very
- 1:04:16convinced that moving forward we're gonna see so much capital.
- 1:04:19So again I'm speculating maybe a little hopium for the Monday
- 1:04:22morning for you guys. And anyways Nico is this too
- 1:04:27much hopium? I know you're kind of a
- 1:04:31diminishing returns maxi here. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:34I mean, did I at least make a decent argument for?
- 1:04:37I think it's Infinity divided by 21 million.
- 1:04:39I think that the world doesn't know what absolute scarcity is.
- 1:04:42I don't think we've ever had something that has absolute
- 1:04:45scarcity or commodity that's had absolute scarcity.
- 1:04:48So I don't think we know what the long term consequences are
- 1:04:51of of that are. However, I can't tell you this.
- 1:04:55So far, Bitcoin has been the best performing asset ever.
- 1:05:00But you know, what I've noticed over the last two cycles are
- 1:05:06without a doubt there has been diminishing returns.
- 1:05:09So does that mean that it's going to hold up?
- 1:05:12I truly believe that the last cycle was cut short due to the
- 1:05:16China ban and due to the rehypothecation and selling of
- 1:05:20paper Bitcoin from FTX. So I do believe that the next
- 1:05:23cycle. We do have an opportunity to
- 1:05:27outperform the previous cycle due to you know, the the
- 1:05:31downward cell pressure of the because of the things I just
- 1:05:35mentioned. So you know, that would kind of
- 1:05:38kill the diminishing returns theory completely, right?
- 1:05:41Is there going to be like a hyper bitcoinization like S
- 1:05:44curve on the way up like that? I don't know.
- 1:05:46Curve Maxis. Hockey Stick Maxis.
- 1:05:49Just hockey stick. It's going up forever, Laura.
- 1:05:52I don't know. But I I love the Kingo's
- 1:05:55attitude on this, which is like you know, stay humble, stack
- 1:05:58sad, stay solvent. And if you take up that attitude
- 1:06:02like you don't really get let down.
- 1:06:04Like obviously we want Bitcoin to hit 100,000 dollars, $500,000
- 1:06:10eventually a million, a lot quicker than we want.
- 1:06:14But it could also take a lot longer than we think, just cause
- 1:06:17like look look at the the external external macro.
- 1:06:22Factors, right. A lot of people are expecting,
- 1:06:24you know, 20, you know, recession in 2024.
- 1:06:28A lot of people are, you know, expecting a global conflict.
- 1:06:33And all of those things could lead to downward cell pressure
- 1:06:36on the price of Bitcoin. That's just kind of like the
- 1:06:39reality of it. So you know, not to be a Debbie
- 1:06:42Downer, but look, regardless of all of these things happening
- 1:06:48that I just mentioned. I I'll tell you what I'm doing.
- 1:06:51I still have my wealth in Bitcoin because you know I I
- 1:06:55think it's the you know it's the best money the world has ever
- 1:06:57seen. I feel empowered by taking self
- 1:07:00custody over my wealth and I think that no other asset could
- 1:07:05truly provide that. Like you could make the the case
- 1:07:08that like physical gold can do that but like physical gold is
- 1:07:12very limited on what you could do with it.
- 1:07:15So yeah, that's my take on all that.
- 1:07:17Like I, you know. I don't know.
- 1:07:21I hope I'm wrong. Like, I hope, I hope you're
- 1:07:23right. Like, I hope, I hope we get to
- 1:07:26see this. That would be fucking awesome,
- 1:07:28you know? That'd be great.
- 1:07:31I just maybe I'm too jaded for like we are all jaded.
- 1:07:34Maybe I'm too jaded and let down from the.
- 1:07:37Last bull market I was expecting 100K Bitcoin.
- 1:07:40I was like fuck yeah, 100K Bitcoin and it got to 69 and
- 1:07:43then we fell back and we fell down to 16 K I'm like holy shit
- 1:07:46this sucks. So I don't know I'm.
- 1:07:49I'm. I would rather be pleasantly
- 1:07:51surprised than let down like last time.
- 1:07:54That's my idea and and and to your point maybe this, you know
- 1:07:58everyone's in the in the chat going L curve maxi, maybe the L
- 1:08:00curve maxi is not as beneficial as we would think.
- 1:08:05It would just mean that all Fiat currencies are hyperinflating
- 1:08:07and that's probably even more dangerous than anything versus
- 1:08:10like Bitcoin purchasing power going up.
- 1:08:12It's just like dollars in full hyperinflationary debt spiral.
- 1:08:17So I don't know who knows where we're going.
- 1:08:20All we know is 21 million hard cap.
- 1:08:23I I just, I don't know 3-3 points on the on the data chart
- 1:08:28doesn't necessarily mean we're going to see diminishing
- 1:08:30returns. So I'll, I'll argue against that
- 1:08:32going forward with you Nico and we'll keep going back and forth
- 1:08:35just so we can get one bull and 1 bear on the show even though
- 1:08:38we all are stupidly bullish. I will keep my bull tart hat on
- 1:08:42forever, because it's going up forever, Laura.
- 1:08:45It's going up forever, Laura. But yeah, man, let's see what
- 1:08:50happens. Hold on, hockey stick.
- 1:08:51Maxi's in the chat. Let's go.
- 1:08:53Hockey Stick Maxi's in the chat. Anyways, it's time for the meme
- 1:08:57review. Let's do it.
- 1:09:06The Daily Meme Review. All right, guys, you already
- 1:09:14know the deal. As you can tell, we are in the
- 1:09:18midst of an information war, and it's upon us to spread the
- 1:09:24message, spread the memes, get the cause of actions, make the
- 1:09:29funny, so our friends and family keep their heads in the game.
- 1:09:33But it's becoming more and more obvious as the blocks come in,
- 1:09:37is that we are in an information war.
- 1:09:40And if you don't remember how I explained the information war
- 1:09:45guys, you get bombarded with so much noise that you forget what
- 1:09:48the signal is. And This is why we constantly be
- 1:09:51on the fundamentals. We constantly spread what we
- 1:09:54believe to be the truth so that more and more and more people
- 1:09:57get on the Bitcoin standard. This is the most important thing
- 1:10:00to be doing is to make sure that people are downloading Bitcoin
- 1:10:03wallets and transacting in Bitcoin on the Bitcoin standard
- 1:10:08anyways. Tweets are the bullets, memes
- 1:10:09are the artillery. We are in an information war.
- 1:10:13Just prepare yourself. Better to be what a warrior in a
- 1:10:17garden than a gardener in the war.
- 1:10:19So here we are, we are the warriors in the digital gardens.
- 1:10:23Anyways, 1st meme shouts out to Bitcoin magazine.
- 1:10:26I'm almost positive this is my boy Nick.
- 1:10:27Can't mind who posted this because we always say this back
- 1:10:29and forth and say it goes when Bitcoin pumps with laughing
- 1:10:33emoji and we got Kermit the Frog.
- 1:10:35Like what? And it got Bitcoin up 10% in a
- 1:10:37week. My boss, Why were you late?
- 1:10:39Me. Kermit the Frog.
- 1:10:41Watch your mouth. You better speak to me nicely.
- 1:10:43Bitcoin is pumping. You can't speak to me like.
- 1:10:46This anymore? Oh man, guys be smart out there.
- 1:10:50I I know we all get stupidly bullish and at times arrogant
- 1:10:56but you you all know this feeling.
- 1:10:58I'm sure you guys are feeling this right now we're seeing the
- 1:11:01Bitcoin price. Let's let's double check.
- 1:11:03I I know we're all watching the one minute chart right now.
- 1:11:05All right. We we're we're retracting a
- 1:11:08little bit from 31 K but hey, one minute chart Maxi's Let's
- 1:11:12go. All right, so this one I I can
- 1:11:14already hear yellow yelling at me.
- 1:11:16This isn't a meme. Whatever.
- 1:11:18Sometimes tweets are the memes. But we got Dylan Leclair here
- 1:11:21with a chart and it goes Bitcoin denominated in U.S.
- 1:11:24Treasury bonds. And you can see it, you know,
- 1:11:26everything's macro, macro, macro, macro.
- 1:11:28But you can see that Bitcoin is pumping.
- 1:11:30It's in a bull market. If you are pricing them in U.S.
- 1:11:33Treasury bonds, Love to see it shouts out to the risk off
- 1:11:37asset, quote UN quote, that is treasury bond.
- 1:11:39But we all know Bitcoin is the treasury bond.
- 1:11:41But the meme here is safety silver lining through all the
- 1:11:44crazy stuff. So safety goes.
- 1:11:47There's a lot to be upset about in today's world, but look on
- 1:11:49the bright side. Fund holders who lend money to
- 1:11:51governments to finance the evil you see around the world
- 1:11:54continue to get ruined in historically unprecedented ways.
- 1:11:57Heart, emotions. Let's go.
- 1:12:01This is the way, guys. Bitcoin stays winning.
- 1:12:04OK, next one is by Bitcoin Scoresby and he goes hashtag.
- 1:12:07Bitcoin is opt in money. And we got Smokey the bear here.
- 1:12:11He's pointing to a sign. He goes, remember, only you can
- 1:12:14adopt Bitcoin. You as the individual.
- 1:12:16You have to make the decision to adopt Bitcoin to save in
- 1:12:21Bitcoin. And this is how we opt out of
- 1:12:24this madness. This is how we defun the powers
- 1:12:27that be. It's by stopping.
- 1:12:30Stop using their money. It's so simple.
- 1:12:32OK, next one. This one is by Warship Bitcoin.
- 1:12:37I took this from our Telegram group.
- 1:12:39I saw that there is a watermark here, so This is why I was able
- 1:12:42to put it on the show. Any more tweets?
- 1:12:44Anyways, we got a, you know, like an AI picture of what looks
- 1:12:47like Marilyn Monroe, and it's a play on the classic trope that
- 1:12:51diamonds are forever. But she's holding a Bitcoin
- 1:12:55physical coin that goes, bitcoins are forever.
- 1:12:57Not only is it going up forever Laura, but if rather when this
- 1:13:02Bitcoin project is cemented in the minds of the masses, Bitcoin
- 1:13:07will be here for a long, long time.
- 1:13:11It's hard to think of a better money than Bitcoin and I really
- 1:13:14do believe that we have the best money.
- 1:13:16Hence why I believe it should be so easy for us to market
- 1:13:20Bitcoin. So do better at marketing guys.
- 1:13:21OK, next one is by other Barry BTC and he goes the worse it
- 1:13:25gets the more they lie. And we got a guy in a suit here
- 1:13:27and a bunch of dumpster fires, a dumpster fire after dumpster
- 1:13:30fire after dumpster fire after dumpster fire.
- 1:13:33And it goes. This is fine.
- 1:13:35This. This is so fine.
- 1:13:36Everything's fine, guys. You know.
- 1:13:38Did you watch the game this weekend?
- 1:13:40Did you catch the latest Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift drama?
- 1:13:46Are you watching? Are you are you watching the
- 1:13:48Kardashians? Or are you paying attention to
- 1:13:51the money? Stupid?
- 1:13:52It is always about the money. Hence why they don't teach you
- 1:13:56about money. Hence why financial illiteracy
- 1:13:59is so rampant is because if you understand the way money works,
- 1:14:02you would be pissed off and you would understand it's all about
- 1:14:07the money. OK, this last one shouts out to
- 1:14:10Paradox. He's on rumble.
- 1:14:13He was, he was trolling hard. He was applauding me last week.
- 1:14:16So Friday, if you missed Friday's show, apparently I got
- 1:14:18triggered. And I I.
- 1:14:20Went way outside the Overton window, but we talked about in
- 1:14:24the beginning of the show and it it's so funny that on YouTube we
- 1:14:29got to be a little mindful so that we don't nuke our channel.
- 1:14:32But I'll Rumble, you guys were loving it.
- 1:14:33You guys were going ham. We had like all time high
- 1:14:36viewers on Rumble and so here we go.
- 1:14:39It's a play on the Overton window and we've been talking
- 1:14:41about the Overton window all day.
- 1:14:43And there are, you know, green boxes on the extremes of the
- 1:14:48Overton window. And he called it the Rumbleton
- 1:14:50window. And then in the middle is the
- 1:14:52Overton window. Well, apparently Rumble's on
- 1:14:54both sides of the extremes. Shouts out to all, you guys.
- 1:14:57This one made me laugh. Good job paradox.
- 1:15:00And you know it. It is what it is.
- 1:15:02And it's really, really interesting guys.
- 1:15:06Just remember the frogs in boiling water meme.
- 1:15:10We are inching people towards the Bitcoin signal, the Bitcoin
- 1:15:14standard. And in my younger naive days as
- 1:15:20a bitcoiner, I would do the crazy Charlie Day and yell at
- 1:15:23everyone and be like you're so stupid you need to wake up.
- 1:15:26You know the Billy Madison, like stay in school, you know, But
- 1:15:28like wake up. And now I'm starting to realize
- 1:15:30that just slowly but surely inching people towards the the
- 1:15:33Bitcoin window is the best way. Plant the seeds, incept the
- 1:15:37ideas, maybe even avoid saying the B word because people have
- 1:15:40already made-up their minds on Bitcoin.
- 1:15:43And this is how we get people I know for us, especially since
- 1:15:46we're all on Bitcoin Twitter and it's always doom and gloom.
- 1:15:49And I even said this weekend, stop doom scrolling, saving
- 1:15:51Bitcoin, Go live life. The end.
- 1:15:53Welcome to my master class. It's that simple guys.
- 1:15:55It really is that simple. So at times, I know it's easy
- 1:15:59for us to fall into the doom and gloom, but I think there is a
- 1:16:03lot more hope than we would even like to mention on Twitter in
- 1:16:07our personal lives. So slowly but surely just know
- 1:16:10that we have the exit route, we have the safety belt, and we
- 1:16:13will get more and more people on the Bitcoin standard.
- 1:16:15And as Bitcoin starts pumping, it's going to be easier and
- 1:16:17easier and easier. So sparkle in it's a marathon,
- 1:16:21not a Sprint. Anyways, drop your meme review
- 1:16:24score in the chat as I cover mine and we will wrap this show
- 1:16:28up all right. I haven't seen one of these in a
- 1:16:31long time. As you can tell, I'm like,
- 1:16:33basically completely digital. I don't do anything physical.
- 1:16:36I don't send envelopes. I don't even staple things, but
- 1:16:41look at this, My dad has a staple, the staple teeth things,
- 1:16:45you know, like the claw, the staples.
- 1:16:47As you can tell, he is still analog and he's the type of
- 1:16:51people I am trying to orange peel.
- 1:16:53He kind of gets Bitcoin. He's kind of like, yeah, my
- 1:16:55son's crazy and he's on this Internet digital money stuff.
- 1:16:59But he does watch the Bitcoin price and he always mentions it.
- 1:17:03Oh man, it's pumping. Good job.
- 1:17:05Maybe you are right. So as the price goes up, more
- 1:17:08and more people will get on the Bitcoin standard anyways, drop
- 1:17:10your mean review score in the chat.
- 1:17:12It's like covers live. But in the meantime, support the
- 1:17:16boys over here. Get yourself some simply Bitcoin
- 1:17:18merch. You can see on the side over
- 1:17:19here. Wait right here.
- 1:17:22We got the simply Bitcoin T-shirt.
- 1:17:24Get yourself a bright orange hoodie if you're hunting.
- 1:17:27It is hunting. Now.
- 1:17:28It's winter. They're comfy.
- 1:17:30They're bright. The good branding, not just for
- 1:17:33us, but to show people it is simply Bitcoin.
- 1:17:36Anyways, there is some meme. So let's get into the meme
- 1:17:40review, guys. All right, just scrolling up.
- 1:17:44Let me see, let me see, let me see.
- 1:17:47OK, OK, you guys are lively today.
- 1:17:51All right. Can I hold on?
- 1:17:53Can I even read this? All right, Score Opti's
- 1:17:56petrified rock Optis tetrified rock.
- 1:17:59Like he can talk. Score.
- 1:18:01Bitcoin is up 10% in a week. Nico, why are you laid off the
- 1:18:05option? I was watching the one minute
- 1:18:09chart. See, I knew I knew there was
- 1:18:11going to be something there, dude.
- 1:18:12Jeez. All right.
- 1:18:13Anyways, next meme review Score Igor, I give the memes a free
- 1:18:17subscription to Dominion Devote counting software.
- 1:18:20Oh, OK, Phil. See, I give these memes a wake
- 1:18:23up call for those still waiting on 10 KBTC.
- 1:18:27Yes, it's a staple remover. I haven't seen one in forever.
- 1:18:30OK, Damn. My dad's getting trolled in the
- 1:18:37chat. Yeah, be nice.
- 1:18:39The P Man van. I give these memes.
- 1:18:41Opti's dad on board. Yeah, he's kind of.
- 1:18:45He's kind of there. He's kind of there.
- 1:18:50Vague. This isn't the score, but I'm
- 1:18:52going to make it a score. Vague score.
- 1:18:53Opti broadcasting from his local Office Depot.
- 1:18:57Yes, it's live streaming from the DMV.
- 1:19:05What? What did I say?
- 1:19:06Petrified Rod. It's yeah.
- 1:19:07Petrified. What did I say?
- 1:19:09Petrified Rod anyways? Anyways, all right, all right,
- 1:19:11all right, all right, all right. It's not, it's not that we're
- 1:19:14out of scores. It's at the buzzer hip.
- 1:19:18All right, guys. Well, love you guys.
- 1:19:21Like, share, subscribe. If you think we're adding value
- 1:19:24to your life, spread all the Bitcoin signal guys.
- 1:19:27As you can tell, we are in an information war and everyone
- 1:19:30thinks that we are wrong. But hey, we are right, OK?
- 1:19:35We have the truth on our side. Continue to spread the Bitcoin
- 1:19:38fundamentals, continue to wake people up, continue to get
- 1:19:41friends and family to download Bitcoin wallets and transact in
- 1:19:45Bitcoin. This is the most important thing
- 1:19:46we can be doing. And hey, as the price starts
- 1:19:48pumping more, it'll be easier and easier and easier to get big
- 1:19:52people on the Bitcoin standard. Anyways, I'm I might not be
- 1:19:56doing spaces this week, guys. I got a lot of things to do and
- 1:19:59I'm going to be going home at the end of this week, so I won't
- 1:20:02be at live streaming from Office Depot.
- 1:20:05So let's just keep that in mind. If I spend one up, I spend one
- 1:20:09up. If not, just, you know, you know
- 1:20:11where to find us. We'll be on YouTube.
- 1:20:13The Twitter video will be there. Anyways, guys, we love you guys.
- 1:20:17I hope you have a good rest of your day.
- 1:20:19Get outside. Get your body moving, Eat some
- 1:20:21good food. Call your parents all that good
- 1:20:23stuff. Anyways, peace out guys.
- 1:20:25Have a good rest of your day. We will be back tomorrow.
- 1:20:28Peace.