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- 0:02Randy Black: Randy Black.
- 0:04Randy Black. Randy Black. Randy Black. Randy Black. Randy Black. Black.
- 0:08Black. He's a troublemaker. Welcome back to Randy Unscripted. I'm Randy Black, and this is the podcast where I just kinda talk about whatever it is that comes across my mind. And
- 0:19today, I wanna talk about something that comes up
- 0:22constantly in discussions
- 0:24about education,
- 0:26money.
- 0:28Specifically,
- 0:30the question that people ask is this,
- 0:32how much are we spending on education,
- 0:35and are we getting results
- 0:37for that investment?
- 0:40Well, since I live in West Virginia and I work in education in West Virginia,
- 0:46I wanted to to dig into the numbers and see how my home state compares
- 0:51not just nationally
- 0:53but also
- 0:54internationally.
- 0:56So let's start with the basic question here.
- 1:01How much
- 1:02do we spend
- 1:04per
- 1:04student
- 1:05in education?
- 1:08Well,
- 1:09the most recent available data shows that West Virginia spends roughly $14,500
- 1:17per student
- 1:18per year in public education.
- 1:21If you include certain capital costs and additional expenditures into that, that number climbs a little bit closer to $16,000
- 1:30per student.
- 1:33The national average
- 1:35by comparison
- 1:37is about $16,500
- 1:39per student.
- 1:41So West Virginia,
- 1:42it's not drastically underfunded
- 1:45when compared
- 1:46to the rest of the country,
- 1:49but
- 1:50we do fall a little bit below the national average.
- 1:55Depending on the dataset and the year you're looking at,
- 1:58West Virginia typically ranks somewhere between thirty second and thirty fifth in the nation
- 2:05for pure sorry, per pupil spending,
- 2:09somewhere between thirty two and thirty five.
- 2:12That places us roughly in the lower middle tier of the states when it comes to educational funding.
- 2:21Now here's where things kinda get interesting.
- 2:25When you look at student performance,
- 2:28particularly on standardized
- 2:30measurements like the National Association of Educational Progress, often called the nation's report card, the NAEP,
- 2:38West Virginia's performance,
- 2:40well,
- 2:41it's significantly
- 2:42lower
- 2:43than its spending rank.
- 2:46For example,
- 2:47recent results show
- 2:49West Virginia
- 2:51ranks near the bottom nationally
- 2:53in several key categories.
- 2:56Fourth grade reading,
- 2:59comes in at about forty second in the nation.
- 3:04Fourth grade math
- 3:05sets around thirty eighth.
- 3:08Eighth grade reading,
- 3:11roughly forty seventh.
- 3:13And eighth grade math is around forty sixth.
- 3:18In some categories,
- 3:21more than 70%
- 3:23of students
- 3:25are performing below the proficient level on these national benchmarks.
- 3:31In other words,
- 3:32if we compare
- 3:33where we rank in spending
- 3:36versus where we rank in performance,
- 3:40the gap there becomes really, really clear.
- 3:44West Virginia spends somewhere in the middle of the pack,
- 3:48but our test results land much closer to the bottom quartile of states.
- 3:54But this comparison, it it becomes even more interesting
- 3:58when we look at other states.
- 4:01Some states spend less per student than West Virginia,
- 4:05but achieve much
- 4:06higher academic results.
- 4:09For example,
- 4:11Utah
- 4:12spends around $9,500
- 4:14per student, which is among the lowest in the nation,
- 4:19yet their academic performance
- 4:22is generally
- 4:24above the national average.
- 4:27Florida
- 4:28also spends less per student than West Virginia,
- 4:32but their students
- 4:34tend to score higher on national assessments.
- 4:38Even
- 4:39Mississippi,
- 4:40historically
- 4:41one of the lowest performing states academically,
- 4:44has made significant gains over the past decade
- 4:47despite
- 4:49spending less
- 4:50per student
- 4:52than West Virginia.
- 4:54So that raises an obvious question.
- 4:57If spending more money
- 4:59automatically
- 5:01produced better outcomes,
- 5:04we would expect states that spend more to consistently
- 5:09perform
- 5:10better.
- 5:12But when research
- 5:13comparing funding when researchers look at the funding and at the performance across all 50 states,
- 5:21the correlation
- 5:23that exists
- 5:24between spending
- 5:26and academic achievement
- 5:28is surprisingly
- 5:29weak once basic funding levels are met.
- 5:33In other words, money,
- 5:35it certainly matters.
- 5:37Schools need resources.
- 5:39Teachers need salaries.
- 5:41Buildings need maintenance.
- 5:44But beyond a certain point, simply spending
- 5:48more money
- 5:49doesn't guarantee
- 5:51better educational
- 5:52outcomes.
- 5:54Now let's zoom out even further,
- 5:56and let's look at the international picture here.
- 6:01Globally, The United States spends more money per student than almost any other country in the world.
- 6:07American schools average around $16,000
- 6:10per student depending on the calculation method.
- 6:13By contrast,
- 6:15the average among developed countries in the OECD,
- 6:18which includes much of Europe and other advanced economies,
- 6:22is closer to $12,000
- 6:24per student.
- 6:26So The United States spends significantly more on education than many of its peers.
- 6:31But when we look at international test results from assessments like the program for international student assessment or the PISA, the PISA, depends on how you wanna say it, the results are even more mixed.
- 6:46Americans
- 6:48or American students
- 6:49typically perform
- 6:51above the international average in reading and science,
- 6:55but around average
- 6:57or slightly below average
- 6:59in mathematics.
- 7:02Countries like Estonia,
- 7:04Finland,
- 7:05Poland,
- 7:06Singapore
- 7:07consistently
- 7:08outperformed The United States academically.
- 7:12And here's the key point.
- 7:14Many of those countries actually spend
- 7:16less per student than The United States.
- 7:20For example, Estonia
- 7:22spends roughly $10,000
- 7:23per student but ranks among the top educational systems in the entire world.
- 7:29Poland spends less than The United States,
- 7:32but also scores above the OECD average.
- 7:36Singapore, one of the top performing
- 7:38educational systems globally,
- 7:40spends roughly the same or sometimes less per student than The United States depending on how those costs are calculated.
- 7:48So internationally, we see a pattern that looks similar to what we see within The United States.
- 7:54Higher spending
- 7:55does not automatically translate
- 7:57into higher performance.
- 7:59Now that doesn't mean funding isn't important.
- 8:03It absolutely is.
- 8:06But research repeatedly shows that many of the strongest influences on educational outcomes,
- 8:12they exist
- 8:14outside the classroom.
- 8:16Things like poverty levels,
- 8:18family stability,
- 8:19parental education,
- 8:21literacy culture in the home, student attendance,
- 8:25and community expectations
- 8:26all play
- 8:27major roles in academic success.
- 8:31In states like West Virginia, those broader socioeconomic challenges can have a significant impact on what happens in schools.
- 8:38When you combine higher poverty rates, rural geography,
- 8:41transportation challenges, and a declining population in some,
- 8:46actually most communities,
- 8:48the educational system is often dealing with factors that go
- 8:52far beyond classroom instruction.
- 8:56So what does all of this tell us?
- 8:59First,
- 9:00West Virginia is not the absolute lowest spender in education,
- 9:05but we do spend slightly below the national average.
- 9:09Second,
- 9:10our academic performance ranks lower than our spending rank,
- 9:14which suggests there are factors beyond funding influencing the outcomes.
- 9:20Third, even The United States as a whole spends far more per student than most countries in the world,
- 9:26yet our performance internationally,
- 9:29it's closer to the middle of the pack.
- 9:32Finally,
- 9:33perhaps the biggest takeaway is that education outcomes
- 9:37are influenced by a complex
- 9:40mix of funding,
- 9:42culture,
- 9:43policy,
- 9:44family environment,
- 9:46and community conditions.
- 9:48Money matters,
- 9:50but it isn't the only variable.
- 9:52Understanding
- 9:53the complex the the complexity is important if we want to have honest conversations
- 9:58about how to improve education,
- 10:01whether in West Virginia,
- 10:02across The United States,
- 10:04or around the world.
- 10:06We have we have to grasp that.
- 10:08And that's something that's something worth thinking about the next time we hear the question,
- 10:14are we spending enough on education?
- 10:19Thank you for listening to this episode of Randy Unscripted. I appreciate the time that you've taken out of your day to
- 10:24hear my thoughts today on education
- 10:27and spending that we have.
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- 10:40And we are hoping to join back very soon. Have another episode for you. Whenever that happens, just make sure you listen because I'll be here, and I'm Randy.
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