Latest / Brian Thomas / Congressman Warren Davidson joins the show this morning
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- 0:13Speaker 1: SONO six here a pet you about KRCD talk station
- 0:16Speaker 1: after Friday. Welcome back, always a distinct pleasure to invite
- 0:21Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson on the program. I appreciate your willingness
- 0:24Speaker 1: to accept that imitation. Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Always an honor. Nice to talk with you, Brian.
- 0:30Speaker 1: All right, so we're still shut down. I know everybody
- 0:32Speaker 1: knows that. Can I characterize it this way?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Now?
- 0:35Speaker 1: The Senate Republicans have voted thirteen times to fund SNAP.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Democrats have voted thirteen times to not fund a SNAP.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Is that a fair way of characterizing the current situation?
- 0:48Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that's have been called and recorded. That's the way
- 0:52Speaker 2: of the land right now. Now.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I guess the big question is this blame game keep
- 0:57Speaker 1: swirling around. But I am a little dishearted and a
- 1:00Speaker 1: little concerned about these widespread posts on social media that
- 1:03Speaker 1: you know, the moment SNAP gets cut off, there's going
- 1:05Speaker 1: to be riots in the streets, and some people are
- 1:08Speaker 1: suggesting that's exactly what the Democrats want. They are literally
- 1:12Speaker 1: bringing pain to the American people, and I think it's
- 1:15Speaker 1: time for us all to collectively reflect on why that
- 1:17Speaker 1: pain can be brought about. In other words, we are
- 1:19Speaker 1: dependent overwhelmingly so on government, which is a scary place
- 1:23Speaker 1: to be. But this is this is the only conclusion
- 1:27Speaker 1: I can reach. They want us to be in pain
- 1:30Speaker 1: in return for which we have to give them up
- 1:31Speaker 1: one to awo point five trillion dollars in additional spending
- 1:34Speaker 1: so we can what fun to the foe that the
- 1:37Speaker 1: faux reality that Obamacare actually works, and also give a
- 1:40Speaker 1: lot of help to illegal immigrants in our country.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean that's the strategy Catherine Clark
- 1:48Speaker 2: and others. She's the majority or minority whip, the Democrat whip,
- 1:52Speaker 2: so one of the leadership positions in the House. That's
- 1:55Speaker 2: exactly as she said. You know, we know that we'll
- 1:57Speaker 2: be suffering, but that's leverage for us. They're counting on
- 2:01Speaker 2: the suffering. They're counting on causing pain to my constituents,
- 2:04Speaker 2: our friends and neighbors, and you know the fact that
- 2:08Speaker 2: they're suffering. They want Republicans to flench first. And look,
- 2:12Speaker 2: the reality is a c R is the epitome of
- 2:16Speaker 2: the status quo. That's part of the problem. I mean,
- 2:18Speaker 2: Democrats are fighting for what they want. They want more government,
- 2:21Speaker 2: a lot more, one and a half trillion more. They
- 2:23Speaker 2: wrote it all out for us, and Republicans in theory
- 2:27Speaker 2: at least want less government. Certainly my part of the
- 2:31Speaker 2: party does. And until you're sitting here defending the status quo,
- 2:36Speaker 2: which essentially no one wants, everyone knows this doesn't really work,
- 2:40Speaker 2: but it is sort of a reminder to go. Even
- 2:42Speaker 2: some of the things that we don't necessarily, you know,
- 2:45Speaker 2: love the way that it works, like snap food stamps.
- 2:49Speaker 2: It is a pretty integral part. I mean, people do
- 2:51Speaker 2: want their friends' family, neighbors to be able to have
- 2:55Speaker 2: a hand in a time of need. We all know
- 2:57Speaker 2: the program should work better. And part of what Republicans
- 3:00Speaker 2: did back in the summer was get back to common
- 3:02Speaker 2: sense to say, look, yeah, we've got a safety net there,
- 3:05Speaker 2: but at some point, if you're able bodied, work in age,
- 3:09Speaker 2: and you don't have dependent kids at home, you need
- 3:11Speaker 2: to get a job, or go to school or volunteer somewhere.
- 3:14Speaker 2: So all those things are now in place. Democrats are
- 3:17Speaker 2: mad about that, and that's part of why they're holding
- 3:20Speaker 2: the government hostage.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Well, and I think the critical words in that statement
- 3:23Speaker 1: not to discount anything you just said, which is all
- 3:26Speaker 1: just dead right on as far as I'm concerned. In
- 3:28Speaker 1: a time of need, these programs are sold upon the
- 3:32Speaker 1: altruistic idea that, well, government can be there when you
- 3:36Speaker 1: are truly in need, but that need is supposed to
- 3:39Speaker 1: be temporary once you get on your feet to the
- 3:41Speaker 1: extent you're able to, and so that everybody that is
- 3:44Speaker 1: incapable of helping themselves out are working or participating in society,
- 3:48Speaker 1: We're going to try to tend to those needs. But
- 3:50Speaker 1: as a very very very small slice of the population,
- 3:54Speaker 1: the programs have become perpetual and forever somebody gets on
- 3:57Speaker 1: foodstamps and then just says, all right, I continue to
- 3:59Speaker 1: get foot samps doesn't do anything to get out of
- 4:01Speaker 1: that time of need. So it is a forever thing.
- 4:05Speaker 1: That's not what these programs were set up to do,
- 4:07Speaker 1: is it.
- 4:09Speaker 2: No, not, well, it's not what they were sold to do. Now,
- 4:13Speaker 2: Democrats they seem to be yeah, this is as designed.
- 4:16Speaker 2: They want it that way, and they also want the
- 4:18Speaker 2: country flooded with non citizens and they want them to
- 4:22Speaker 2: be on the same kinds of programs that we were
- 4:24Speaker 2: designed for Americans. So not only do we have a
- 4:28Speaker 2: problem with Medicaid and healthcare going to illegal so they're
- 4:32Speaker 2: fighting to get that back, which we turned off. You've
- 4:35Speaker 2: got a significant amount of the food stamp assistants going
- 4:38Speaker 2: to non citizens, and you know, these people in a
- 4:42Speaker 2: lot of cases aren't even supposed to be here, but
- 4:45Speaker 2: you're not going to watch kids starve, so they wind
- 4:48Speaker 2: up being on some form of federal assistants. And it
- 4:52Speaker 2: just highlights the problem that the Democrats are imposing on
- 4:55Speaker 2: the country left and right. You go back when Joe
- 4:59Speaker 2: Biden was president, on average, we had nearly two hundred
- 5:02Speaker 2: thousand illegals coming into the country every month that Joe
- 5:06Speaker 2: Biden was president. This is off the charge. I mean,
- 5:09Speaker 2: this was not you know, unanticipated. They promised to do that,
- 5:15Speaker 2: then they did it, and they did it in spite
- 5:17Speaker 2: of what the law says. They did it in spite
- 5:20Speaker 2: of what the consequences are for our safety net, whether
- 5:23Speaker 2: it's health care, food assistance. Housing, And that's one of
- 5:27Speaker 2: the other ones that wire housing is so expensive. Well,
- 5:30Speaker 2: you brought about twenty million illegal people into the country,
- 5:33Speaker 2: They're going to have to live somewhere. There are a
- 5:36Speaker 2: whole lot of other factors there, but that certainly is
- 5:38Speaker 2: one of them.
- 5:39Speaker 1: And Trump ran on all of this and one popular vote,
- 5:43Speaker 1: the electoral college vote across the board. One of the
- 5:45Speaker 1: key issues you ran on is exactly the point you're making,
- 5:48Speaker 1: and it seems so odd to me. It's impossible from
- 5:50Speaker 1: my perspective, for the Democrats to reconcile the position. Were
- 5:53Speaker 1: they not the party of the safety net? Were they
- 5:55Speaker 1: not the champions of the downtrodden. Didn't they implement these
- 5:58Speaker 1: programs in order to salvage and save those folks and
- 6:01Speaker 1: provide that measure of assistance in time of need. They're
- 6:04Speaker 1: the ones that invited the twenty million or so illegal
- 6:06Speaker 1: immigrants into the country, which made these programs, got these
- 6:09Speaker 1: programs so overwhelmed that they're they're bringing about this sad
- 6:15Speaker 1: reality on the very people they purported to represent. After
- 6:18Speaker 1: for years and years and years, a lot of those
- 6:20Speaker 1: folks then said, wait a second, I don't like these
- 6:23Speaker 1: illegal immigrants taking all the resources from my local governments,
- 6:26Speaker 1: all the housing and blah blah blah blah blah. That
- 6:29Speaker 1: money should be going to me and my downtrodden neighborhoods.
- 6:32Speaker 1: So they've created this situation. It's a mess. For them.
- 6:34Speaker 1: That's I think their biggest problem. They can't reconcile the
- 6:38Speaker 1: two sides of their political agenda whatever they're hoping to accomplish.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you look at historically working class
- 6:46Speaker 2: voters that you know, grect to the Bill Clinton coalition,
- 6:49Speaker 2: those were the people that he targeted and post Obama,
- 6:53Speaker 2: you know that movement and said, look, they're holding my wages. Dad.
- 6:58Speaker 2: When you bring all these people in, you're hurting cutting
- 7:00Speaker 2: off my opportunities in a lot of ways. And if
- 7:03Speaker 2: you look at certain industries like Cole they literally, you know,
- 7:07Speaker 2: promised that well you know it won't be illegal, but
- 7:09Speaker 2: he'll go bankrupt. And you know, all these kinds of
- 7:12Speaker 2: things are part of why Ohio flipped. You had people.
- 7:16Speaker 2: I remember when Tim Ryan was in the House with me,
- 7:19Speaker 2: he challenged Nancy Pelosi to be leader of the Democrats
- 7:23Speaker 2: in the House because he's like, you can't keep doing
- 7:25Speaker 2: these far left crazy things. And when places like Youngstown,
- 7:29Speaker 2: Ohio and lo and behold, Ohio is not really much
- 7:32Speaker 2: of a swing state anymore. We've become solid red. And
- 7:37Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways, Ohio ands didn't
- 7:40Speaker 2: change their views. The parties did, and Donald Trump has
- 7:44Speaker 2: grown his majority. The left has just taken over the
- 7:47Speaker 2: Democrat Party, and they defend things federally in these votes
- 7:52Speaker 2: that truly aren't representative of Democrats, even in our district.
- 7:56Speaker 2: I mean, it's bipartisan in the eighth District of Ohio
- 7:59Speaker 2: to say, you know, men and boys, males shouldn't compete
- 8:04Speaker 2: against in sports that were designed to have a women's category.
- 8:08Speaker 2: You can't pretend you're a woman and then just go compete.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Or no matter how much surgery or chemicals you put
- 8:15Speaker 2: in your body, you're still not female. And that's part
- 8:19Speaker 2: of why we designed them. That's common sense stuff. But
- 8:23Speaker 2: and bipartisan here, but not bipartisan when we call the votes.
- 8:27Speaker 2: I think eventually they're going to have to open the government.
- 8:29Speaker 2: But in the meantime, I mean, I've laid out a
- 8:31Speaker 2: plan for the Speaker and others that you've of course
- 8:33Speaker 2: got the sixty vote rule in the Senate. A lot
- 8:35Speaker 2: of people want to blow that up. It would be
- 8:37Speaker 2: blown up all the time, though, because the Senate's always
- 8:40Speaker 2: got the sixty vote rule. We use reconciliation to pass
- 8:43Speaker 2: appropriations back in the summer, and that also allows a
- 8:47Speaker 2: simple majority in the Senate, and that really only works
- 8:49Speaker 2: if you've got the White House, the House, and the Senate.
- 8:52Speaker 2: So I think that's a better way. I just do
- 8:54Speaker 2: reconciliation and deem everything we consider essential as Republicans, and
- 8:59Speaker 2: you pass it on reconciliation with a simple majority. That
- 9:03Speaker 2: would take a little bit of effort, But if the
- 9:04Speaker 2: Democrats aren't going to move, we could get on with
- 9:07Speaker 2: funding our AGEA instead of just defending the status quo
- 9:11Speaker 2: with this stupid cer.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Well, and you have to be called in from recess
- 9:15Speaker 1: to do that. That hasn't yet happened, has it, Congressman Davidson.
- 9:19Speaker 2: No. I mean we're having meetings. Unfortunately, some of the
- 9:21Speaker 2: meetings that some of our folks are having is the
- 9:24Speaker 2: surrender Caucus is forming. This is this is where this
- 9:28Speaker 2: is where Speaker Johnson is like, now, just stay out
- 9:30Speaker 2: of DC because you'll all start trying to, you know,
- 9:34Speaker 2: do deals with Democrats to do things that you know
- 9:38Speaker 2: undermine the position. And you know, I think we've got
- 9:40Speaker 2: a very clear position. There are some Republicans that, apparently
- 9:44Speaker 2: for the first time ever, want to work with Democrats
- 9:47Speaker 2: on Obamacare. How do we make Obamacare better? And you know,
- 9:52Speaker 2: Obamacare was designed to cause problems for America's healthcare system,
- 9:56Speaker 2: so you make it better by getting rid of it.
- 9:59Speaker 2: It doesn't work. They know that. Well, it's working the
- 10:01Speaker 2: way they designed it to, which is to keep sucking
- 10:04Speaker 2: more cash until you effectively have single payer. But it
- 10:09Speaker 2: doesn't work to make health care affordable. It's working to
- 10:12Speaker 2: implement single payers. So they're bridging it with you know,
- 10:16Speaker 2: these are COVID subsidies that overwhelmingly just go straight to
- 10:20Speaker 2: the health insurance company, essentially as a bribe to say, hey,
- 10:24Speaker 2: if we give you this straight pipe of cash, we
- 10:27Speaker 2: hold down premiums a little bit. And you know, it
- 10:31Speaker 2: sort of worked in that sense, and now they're saying, oh, well,
- 10:34Speaker 2: if you don't give us the money, we're going to
- 10:36Speaker 2: raise the premiums again. And well, there never was a
- 10:39Speaker 2: big pandemic surge, so they got a huge plus up
- 10:43Speaker 2: for expenses that didn't come anywhere near what they were
- 10:48Speaker 2: funded at. The pandemic was bad, but it wasn't the
- 10:52Speaker 2: kind of thing that we funded. We funded a much
- 10:54Speaker 2: worse pandemic than what actually happened.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Well, let's bring Congress more and it's in back at
- 11:01Speaker 1: seven to sixteen right now, If you have KERSD talk
- 11:03Speaker 1: station talk station seven nineteen. If if you have KSD
- 11:08Speaker 1: talk station, Happy Friday, Eve Thursday at Congressman Warren Davidson
- 11:11Speaker 1: on the phone, real quick here congresson Davidson on Obamacare.
- 11:14Speaker 1: These supplements don't make the premium go away, do they.
- 11:18Speaker 1: They just give the impression that the premium has gone
- 11:21Speaker 1: away to the people who get the supplement. So no,
- 11:23Speaker 1: I'm not paying one thousand dollars a month for insurance.
- 11:25Speaker 1: I'm only paying three hundred dollars a month for insurance.
- 11:27Speaker 1: I can handle that. But that other seven hundred dollars
- 11:30Speaker 1: has been padded by a supplement is still being paid.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Just the weight of that is being borne by the
- 11:34Speaker 1: American taxpayer, as expressed in the form of our national debt.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's a transference. It's
- 11:41Speaker 2: really no different than forgiving student debt in the sense
- 11:45Speaker 2: that you know, it really isn't forgiven. It's just transferring
- 11:49Speaker 2: it from the person that owes it to the person
- 11:52Speaker 2: to the taxpayers. And that's the problem with Obamacare. And look,
- 11:55Speaker 2: if you look at government has grown massively, and one
- 12:00Speaker 2: of the biggest places it's grown is healthcare. I mean,
- 12:02Speaker 2: back back in the sixties, when Medicaid was was rolled
- 12:07Speaker 2: out under the Great Society, healthcare was about six percent
- 12:11Speaker 2: of the US economy. Well, people still needed health care
- 12:14Speaker 2: back then, but now it's about twenty five percent of
- 12:18Speaker 2: the economy. So as we've added more and more government,
- 12:23Speaker 2: olds done is inflated and we add government because well
- 12:26Speaker 2: it's expensive. But the more government you put in, the
- 12:30Speaker 2: faster the inflation is because that's what causes the inflation. Right, Well,
- 12:35Speaker 2: it also causes the person that gets the subsidy. Then okay,
- 12:38Speaker 2: well it's good for you, but the market price has
- 12:41Speaker 2: gone up for everybody else.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess the I mean insurance as a concept.
- 12:47Speaker 1: The loan will cause people to go to the doctor
- 12:49Speaker 1: more often because the perception is that it's not costing anything.
- 12:52Speaker 1: You know, well, my insurance company's going to pay for it. Well,
- 12:55Speaker 1: that's an incentive to go see the doctor, perhaps more often,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but it's also knowing that they're going to get paid
- 12:59Speaker 1: center the providers to jack up the prices because the
- 13:02Speaker 1: insurance company's going to cover it.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, single payer that will pay any price
- 13:09Speaker 2: also fails. I mean, it's collapsing. Our kind of if
- 13:12Speaker 2: you look at what's eating the federal budget, you know,
- 13:14Speaker 2: just Medicaid and Medicare are a huge, huge thing. Now,
- 13:19Speaker 2: we need them, they're considered essential. We certainly want those things,
- 13:23Speaker 2: but they haven't been a good check And if you
- 13:25Speaker 2: look at some of our hospital networks, you know, they're
- 13:27Speaker 2: getting like seventy five percent of their funding from the
- 13:31Speaker 2: federal government federal dollars with Medicaid Medicare programs like that,
- 13:36Speaker 2: and so the private sector where you know, one hundred
- 13:39Speaker 2: and sixty hundred and eighty million Americans get their health
- 13:42Speaker 2: insurance through workplace benefit, so overwhelming majority they're getting their
- 13:47Speaker 2: healthcare while on payroll in a job. But that portion
- 13:52Speaker 2: of the payment is you know, in best case, a
- 13:57Speaker 2: third twenty five percent to a third of the payments
- 14:00Speaker 2: for a hospital network. So there's all kinds of reforms
- 14:03Speaker 2: that need to be done really just to protect the
- 14:05Speaker 2: function of Medicaid Medicare in the private healthcare economy. Obamacare
- 14:11Speaker 2: undermines those things, and instead of dealing with the root issue,
- 14:14Speaker 2: we're sitting here propping up a program that clearly didn't work.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Wish we could solve the problems of the world just
- 14:24Speaker 1: during this conversation Congress from Warren Davidson. It's a million
- 14:26Speaker 1: directions I want to go. But on that point, let's
- 14:28Speaker 1: move over real quick here. Because China, it looks like
- 14:30Speaker 1: Donald Trump had some success. He's having great success on
- 14:33Speaker 1: his trip to Asia, negotiating some great trade deals. Everyone
- 14:37Speaker 1: seems to be pleased, and he even suggested that he
- 14:39Speaker 1: had success with Jijinping, tougher federal enforcement, rare earth mineral negotiations.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Do you have optimism of the results of this trip,
- 14:49Speaker 1: most notably in connection with our relationship with China.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean he went to a lot of
- 14:56Speaker 2: other countries before he went to China, and I think
- 14:58Speaker 2: this is part of just short bring up the supply
- 15:00Speaker 2: chain in a lot of ways, de risking our supply
- 15:04Speaker 2: chain relationship with China. So it gave him the stronghand
- 15:07Speaker 2: to deal with China. And frankly, a lot of people
- 15:09Speaker 2: early on they're like, why are we putting tarots on
- 15:11Speaker 2: all these other countries. Well, China agreed to be a
- 15:15Speaker 2: market economy with when they joined the World Trade Organization.
- 15:19Speaker 2: You know, it's the main thing that Bill Clinton worked on,
- 15:21Speaker 2: and they got launched right around the end of his
- 15:23Speaker 2: presidency and started George W. Bush's But China hasn't become
- 15:26Speaker 2: a market economy. Their economy has grown a lot, but
- 15:30Speaker 2: they've done all kinds of things to shape the market,
- 15:32Speaker 2: block access to their own while dumping and subsidizing all
- 15:36Speaker 2: over the world. And we've become incredibly dependent upon China,
- 15:40Speaker 2: and we even for things like pharmaceuticals, and we saw
- 15:42Speaker 2: during COVID just to get critical things, we can't really
- 15:46Speaker 2: function at access to the China market. And that's a
- 15:50Speaker 2: really important vulnerability. So President Trump's tried to deal with
- 15:56Speaker 2: that with our own countries, like with Canada, with Mexico,
- 15:59Speaker 2: with Europeans, with Japan, Korea, you name it, to say, yeah,
- 16:04Speaker 2: we want a better relationship with you, but you got
- 16:06Speaker 2: to help us with China. China's got to do what
- 16:08Speaker 2: they said they would do, and I hope we at
- 16:11Speaker 2: least move in that direction.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I say we own a Donald Trump, and
- 16:15Speaker 1: he has had wild success getting promises and commitments of
- 16:19Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars investment in the United States,
- 16:22Speaker 1: most notably in the area of pharmaceutical production. I mean,
- 16:25Speaker 1: we learned a lot from COVID. Was a painful lesson
- 16:27Speaker 1: but our eyes woke up, and it's not too late.
- 16:29Speaker 1: We can take over manufacturing in this country and bring
- 16:32Speaker 1: about a reliable source of pharmaceuticals among other products that
- 16:38Speaker 1: we don't have to rely on our arch enemy for.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, man, I'd rather do business with China
- 16:44Speaker 2: than end up truly treating them as an enemy and
- 16:47Speaker 2: find a way to get into yet another kind of war,
- 16:50Speaker 2: some version of it, a cold war if nothing else,
- 16:54Speaker 2: you know, great, but you know, peace through strength, right
- 16:57Speaker 2: and right now, we're vulnerable and not strong, and that's important.
- 17:01Speaker 2: Whether it's semiconductors, chips, you know, in my old industry, tooling,
- 17:07Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these things, dies, molds, castings, forgings.
- 17:10Speaker 2: You're still dependent upon China in a lot of ways.
- 17:12Speaker 2: And a lot of Trump's America First strategy is to
- 17:17Speaker 2: make us less vulnerable to those kinds of things. It's
- 17:19Speaker 2: a big part of what he's doing with trade. And
- 17:22Speaker 2: I just I think this is long overdue and an
- 17:25Speaker 2: important trip.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Well, thank you for your service to
- 17:28Speaker 1: our country, your ongoing service to our country, and your
- 17:30Speaker 1: elected capacity, and thanks to your voters for putting you
- 17:33Speaker 1: in office. You're a good man. We really appreciate the
- 17:36Speaker 1: work that you're doing, and I, of course thoroughly appreciate,
- 17:38Speaker 1: along with my listeners, you're willingness to come on the
- 17:40Speaker 1: program and talk about these important issues. Congressman Davidson, until
- 17:43Speaker 1: our next conversation with you and your family, the best
- 17:46Speaker 1: of health and all the success in the world.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for defending freedom, Brian, God bless you and
- 17:52Speaker 2: all your listeners.
- 17:52Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty six fifty five KRCD Talks
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