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Seth Lloyd And His Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: Delve back into a place we haven't talked about too
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much lately, and that's the world of academia. We all
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know that all of these so called high level institutions
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like Harvard, like Columbia, like Yale, like MIT have all
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been palaining around with Jeffrey Epstein or people like Jeffrey Epstein.
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We all know that these professors are taking money from
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wherever they can get it without any sort of vetting
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process even occurring. And then even when these people get nailed,
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even when it comes out that these people took money
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from somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, these institutions, like the one
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we're going to talk about tonight, always try and pin
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it directly on the professor. Now, I agree, the professor
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is the one that should be, you know, held responsible.
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He's the one that set it up. He's the one
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that got the money, or she's the one who got
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the money. But the actual school itself, the institution, should
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share that blame and they shouldn't be able to pass
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the buck and just blame the professor and scapegoat the professor.
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Where were all of your safeguards? Where were all of
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the protocols from the institution's end to make sure that
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this shit doesn't happen. There was none. They might have
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a couple of things in paper, right, Oh yeah, Oh,
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we'll put this down on paper and we'll make per ten.
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We're going to make sure that nobody gives us any
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dirty money. Yeah right, Okay. If you can't figure out
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that Jeffrey Epstein was an absolute bottom dwelling amoeba, then
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there is no hope for you to possibly vet anybody correctly,
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and MIT should be ashamed of themselves. MIT, like everybody else,
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has themselves a little bit of an investigation into Seth Lloyd,
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and the findings of that investigation and the results of
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what the repercussions to Seth Lloyd are going to be
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are now in folks, and spoiler alert, it's a joke,
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Just like every one of these other self initiated self investigations.
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It turns up buppkus, It turns out to be a joke,
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a mockery. What's the point If they're never going to
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find anybody within the command structure had anything to do
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with this or had any sort of liability for letting
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it happen, then what is the point? Oh? I get it.
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You know you'll throw us a little bit of red meat,
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like the two guards who are supposed to be watching
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Epstein right, and think that's going to satiate people, But
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it's not going to. In the old days, that might
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have worked, but not anymore, not when everybody knows that
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the media is deceitful, Not when everybody knows that the
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legacy media does not have the common working man or
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woman's best interest at heart. It's all about selling units,
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It's all about getting clicks. If it bleeds, it leads,
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never mind actually educating the masses, never mind actually getting
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people hip to this shit that is really going on.
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They're too busy for that. They're too busy cash in
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their paychecks. They're too busy quashing Virginia Roberts interviews over
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at places like ABC. Our article today is from the
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Boston Globe, and as you can imagine, it is about
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MIT and the professor Seth Lloyd, who took a bunch
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of money from Jeffrey Epstein, who was definitely being bankrolled
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by Jeffrey Epstein. And this is a wrap up of
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their findings. Headline MIT disciplines professor over Jeffrey Epstein donations
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What will allow him to continue teaching. There is no
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repercussions for these people and academia especially right. I know
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I haven't been going too hard on academia lately because
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we've been caught up in other matters. But don't think
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I've forgotten these people, because I have not. It is
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a travesty what has gone on in the supposed hollowed
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halls of these so called top level institutions. How has
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this been able to propagate itself amongst these institutions. Aren't
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they supposed to be the smartest people in the world.
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Aren't these supposed to be the folks that are going
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to educate the next generation of world leaders. Well maybe
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that's the problem. Maybe that is our problem. That the
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next generation gets sent to these dens of scum and
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villainy like MIT or Harvard, and when they get there,
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you think you're giving your children over to good people,
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right educated people, real smart people, people who are gonna
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make my child a better person, help educate them and
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help them achieve their goals. But instead you're sending them
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to people like Seth Lloyd, who had a relationship with
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Jeffrey Epstein and was getting a whole bunch of money
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from him. On the other side, absolutely fantastic. Huh. Just
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exactly the sort of person you want to safeguard your
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child with. And I don't care if it's a college
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age child, still your child. These are the people that
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you want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on
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an education to have these people educate your child. You
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can count me out of that bullshit, I'll tell you
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that much. This article was authored by Deirdre Fernandez from
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the Boston Globe staff, calling a mechanical engineering professor's decision
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to accept donations from convicted sex offender pedophile Jeffrey Epstein
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poor judgment. MIT on Friday announced that it will limit
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his pay and his involvement in undergraduate undergraduate advising for
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five years. Poor judgment. Huh. So everyone's just gonna take
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their cue from the just US Department. That's why that
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just US Department report was so ridiculous, because now you
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see it right here with MIT. Oh, it was poor jugment.
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It was just poor judgment. Professor Lloyd's gonna stick around.
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We'll give him a little slap on the wrist. He
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can't be involved in undergraduate studies and we're gonna limit
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his pay so instead of one hundred and ninety grand
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a year, we'll give him one hundred and seventy five
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grand a year. It's such a slap in the face,
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a joke, and could it be any more limp wristed seth.
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Lloyd has been on paid leave since January after a
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series of revelations about Epstein's financial ties to MIT and
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the longtime professor rocked the campus and led to protests
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and resignations. So, protests, resignations, all of that stuff, right,
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but Lloyd doesn't lose his job. And to be honest
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with you, I'm not even mad that he was on
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paid leave, to be honest with you while they're investigating
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what one on that's cool. No, he isn't guilty of
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anything yet. But now when the investigation comes back, the
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hammer should be dropped. I don't want to hear about
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these sanctions. We're gonna we're gonna dock his pay and
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he can't be involved in undergraduate shit. Cool, So he
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has more time to go home and do whatever he wants. Now,
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like that's a real penalty. It's it's it's a joke.
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This is toothless and MIT should be ashamed of themselves.
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For people that are supposed to be pretty damn smart,
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they're pretty damn stupid a lot of the times, aren't they.
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Lloyd will have to take professional conduct training classes before
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resuming campus activities, including teaching. MIT provst Martine Schmidt, sending
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an email to the community on Friday, Well, there you
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have it, folks. A couple of conduct training classes is
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gonna solve it. That's gonna just make it all better.
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So you need to tell me that a professor at
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MIT who is taking money from Jeffrey Epstein didn't know
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any better, and you're gonna send them to some re
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education courses and that's going to ignite his memory about
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having to how to be a good human being and
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not accept money from pedophiles and human traffickers. Is that
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what you're telling us is that the sanction that you're
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slapping upon this man seth Lloyd. Boy, You guys really
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went overboard with this punishment. I'll tell you what. This is,
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a punishment unseen or unheard of, an absolute joke. But
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the discipline is unlikely to satisfy some at MIT who
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had called for Lloyd's resignation, and is likely to reopen
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one of the more embarrassing chapters in the university's recent
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history as it should handle your business correctly and you
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don't have to worry about this stuff. Drop the hammer
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on scumbags and you don't have to worry about this stuff.
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But in lieu of that, people are going to be
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apoplectic over this. This is a another slap on the wrist.
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How many people involved with Jeffrey Epstein are just gonna
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get a slap on the wrist. I guess all of them, right,
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I mean average people. Forget it. If this was you
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at your job and you took a donation, you took
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money or whatever, you'd be fired. You wouldn't there wouldn't
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be a paid leave since January and all this other
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shit that they have going on for these people. You
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want to talk about privileged and you want to talk
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about people of privilege. That's who we're talking about right here, folks.
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All of these disgusting I'm better than you sons of bitches.
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These steps cannot undo the harm done. Professor Lloyd's failure
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to share what he knew about Epstein's conviction when he
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accepted his twenty twelve donation was unacceptable. So again, he
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knew all right, don't act like a couple of classes
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are gonna teach him to have a moral compass. He
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didn't care. His projects were so important. Not even taking
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money from Jeffrey Epstein is okay. The means justifies an end.
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All of these people, be it these wacky, weird scientist
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types or the scumbag business magnates, it's all about them.
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They're all so narcissistic, it's so disgusting. I recognize that
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many in our community remain deeply disturbed by the interactions
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with Jeffrey Epstein, and that some will be disappointed by
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this decision. Some how about majority, my friend, you better
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have your big boy pants on, because I am sure
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that people are going to voice how upset they are
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over this and voice their displeasure over this. So get ready.
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I'm sure that it's going to be your own students
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going crazy, going ham. I know if my kid was
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at this school, I'd be on the own tomorrow over
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this decision. To speak to mister Schmidt and ask them
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what in the ever living f sort of brain damage
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they suffer from to think that this is a conclusion
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that's that's okay. That is going to resonate as this
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man actually facing repercussions because it does not and it
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will not. And if this is the way MIT is
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going to conduct themselves, then MIT better get themselves some iodined,
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because this shit and this fallout is really radioactive, just
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as Harvard. According to a report commission by MIT earlier
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this year, Lloyd received two hundred and eighty five thousand
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dollars from Epstein, including a personal gift of sixty thousand
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dollars nearly fifteen years ago that was not reported to
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MIT at the time. So this dude got two hundred
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and eight eighty five thousand boxes a ZD for his projects. Then,
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wetting his beak again, he goes back to the trough
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for a little more and gets a bag with sixty
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thousand dollars in it for what. Look, we all know
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Epstein wasn't just handing out money. We know that Epstein
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wasn't just given out money just because he's a nice guy. Okay,
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there was always quid pro quo, There was always what
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are you gonna do for me? Later? When Epstein was
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doling out the dough and that's established. So what in
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the hell was he giving Lloyd this money for what
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sort of projects? Did Jeffrey Epstein get access to that
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Lloyd was working on and did Jeffrey Epstein pass any
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of those secrets from these scientists on to any of
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these intelligence agencies. I think that's a legitimate question that
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should be asked. Unfortunately, nobody seems to have any answers
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for us. In a statement, Lloyd said he, like many colleagues,
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thought that Epstein had reformed after serving jail time for
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an earlier conviction. What he accepted a twenty twelve donation.
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That's such bs that you really think, mister Lloyd, that
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that's a tenable position. You're gonna defend yourself from that position.
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You realize your enemies have the high ground, right and
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you also realize that they're conducting a flanking maneuver with
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their cavalry right now. But this is what you're gonna
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this is the strategy you're going to employ, right. I
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hope you're ready to get routed because this is absolute garbage. Okay,
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Oh here I affirmed himself soliciting a minor for prostitution.
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You don't reform yourself from that. Your Epstein was a predator. Okay.
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All you had to do was a quick Google search
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and you see that there was hundreds of girls. So
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if you knew that he was reformed from his prison sentence,
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how are you going to tell me that you didn't
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know about all the other allegations and the fact that
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he got off easy with a slap on the wrist.
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No one's buying it, mister Lloyd. Nobody is buying it.
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With twenty twenty hindsight, I should have sought further consultation
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at the time over Epstein's appropriateness as a donor and
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communicated his past conviction. Lloyd said, I will always regret
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the pain that the involvement with Epstein has caused his
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survivors and members of the MIT community. So further as
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he should have communicated his past convictions to who anybody
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that is in charge of signing off on these donations
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shouldn't need anybody to tell them about the past behavior
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of a donor. You have the internet, you have a smartphone,
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get your fingers moving, do a little bit of legwork,
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or is it you don't want to know so that
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you have plausible deniability. When shit goes south and we
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find ourselves here reading this ridiculous report, the synic in
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me says well, you know what the cynic says. The
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university brought together two faculty committees, and a majority of
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members on the review panel found that Lloyd violated MIT's
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policy on faculty misconduct by failing to inform the university
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that Epstein was a convicted sex offender, but that ultimately
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he didn't violate any policies by accepting the donation and
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didn't try to circumvent the university's donor policies. I can't
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even believe what I'm reading right here. So what they're
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telling us is they have no policies for this, and furthermore,
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the university should be ashamed of itself. They don't have
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a department to vet these people. I don't believe that.
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I really don't believe that. So just some random secretary
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in an office gets an email say there's going to
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be a twenty million dollar donation and just okays it.
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There's no chain of custody for an email like that,
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or there's nobody that gets involved for anything like that.
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So to tell me that the university had no idea
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that Jeffy Epstein was a sixth son of a bitch
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is a bit hard of a cell. MIT at the
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time did not have any policy to deal with controversial donors.
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Of course they didn't, because this wasn't a one off.
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I know, it's sad to say, and it's disgusting and
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it's depressing to think about, but this sort of money
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is so deeply dug into the very heart of these
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universities that it's not even funny. How many of these
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donors that are donating to these universities. These folks are
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absolute scumbags, money launderers, traffickers, human traffickers, drug dealers, you
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name it. And yet these universities are just taking this money,
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hand over fist, hands over their eyes. Oh well, we
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didn't know it was the professor, talk to the professor.
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We didn't vet well, what we're supposed to vet Epstein too?
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Are you kidding me? And on and on it goes,
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and they just keep passing the blame around and it
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never lands on anyone's back squarely, and they just hope
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that this story will eventually go away. But unfortunately for them,
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this is not one of those stories. And we're not
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going anywhere until a real trial has had and a
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real shot at justice has been given to these survivors,
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and till these institutions are held responsible. Epstein's ties to
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MIT became public last summer after the disgraced financier Pedophile
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committed suicide allegedly in a Manhattan jail cell where he
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was being held on charges involving sex trafficking for minors.
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Former MIT Media Lab director joy Eto acknowledged that he
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had accepted donations from Epstein and resigned in September twenty
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nineteen after an explosive New Yorker story said that he
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and others tried to keep Epstein's funding quiet. Oh yeah,
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I'm sure Seth Lloyd had nothing to do with that.
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Seth Lloyd was just rolling on his own, you know,
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kicking his can down the road, wearing his duster jacket,
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living in a world of one. Joy Eto gets the boot,
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but not Seth Lloyd. They both needed to go. MIT
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brought in law firm Goodwin Proctor to review its relationship
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with Epstein. The firm found that Epstein had visited MIT
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at least nine times in recent years and gave the
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university eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So if Lloyd
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was responsible for his donations, the university is not eight
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hundred and fifty thousand dollars and these dudes are trying
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to point the finger at just Lloyd. Well, I want
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Lloyd to face repercussions, no doubt about it. As you
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all know, I don't want middlemen. I am big game hunting.
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I want these people who were in charge of the
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decision making to be fired, point blank period. Anything less
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is a travesty of justice. And frankly, they should be lucky.
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It's just fired that they're getting. Top administrators at the
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university were also aware that Epstein was giving the school money.
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The Goodwin Proctor report found, although it cleared MIT president
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el Raphael Rife of any involvement in approving the gifts,
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of course, that's that's how they have it all set up.
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It's like a mafia. It's like the Jeffrey Epstein ring.
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Layers of protection, layers of insulation. What do you think
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there's any different here. You think MIT was turning down
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that eight hundred and fifty thousand racks. Hell no, they
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wanted that money. They didn't care who was giving it
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to them or where it was coming from. And the
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fact that the investigation cleared Raphael Rife of any wrongdoing,
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just right there that alone should tell you everything you
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need to know about this bs ridiculous report. Some female
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employees and students at the university's vaunted Media Lab said
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they had complained about Epstein's involvement but were dismissed. Two
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MIT media lab researchers resigned in protest over money that
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Eto took from Epstein for the university for his own
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investments in tech startups. So these lib researchers knew who
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Epstein was, but Reef didn't, Lloyd didn't, none of the
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other trustees knew. None of them knew. Huh, that's what
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they want us to believe. I don't believe it, folks,
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and I know none of you out there do either.
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Students protested on campus, female faculty criticized the school's priorities,
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and disgruntled faculty called on Reef to step down. Epstein's
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donations put a spotlight on how universities driven for research
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funding cultivate wealthy donors and often overlook their controversial histories.
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Now we have been going hard on this on the podcast.
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We haven't for a while, but as you all know,
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I had doctor Steven Delay come onto the show and
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talk about this very thing and it's prevalent within academia.
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These people are taking money from all sorts of bad
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act bad apples, and bad characters. And furthermore, how can
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Harvard have a money crunch? How can Mit have a
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money crunch? It cost a bazillion dollars to go there.
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Epstein liked to surround himself with academics and scientists, and
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courted many of the nation's top universities, including MIT and Harvard.
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Earlier this year, a report from Harvard found that Epstein
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had a personal office among university researchers, a dedicated phone line,
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and an unusual visiting fellowship position. High level faculty at
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Harvard urged administrators to take the financiers' money despite his
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record as a registered sex offender pedophile. Of course they did.
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And that's what I'm trying to stress here to you folks, right.
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I don't want to sound like a broken record, and
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I don't want to us to have to go over
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you know, plowed terrain again and again and again. But
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anytime something like that like this pops up, we have
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to add it to the catalog. We have to talk
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about it because it goes towards the overall bigger picture,
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and that bigger picture is it's not just business, it's
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not just finance, it's not just politicians. Academia and these
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so called top line universities are neck deep when it
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comes to accepting funds and being in bed with scumbags
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like Jeffrey Epstein. Like to contact me, you can do
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that at Bobbykapouchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo Bby
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