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New Clues in Disappearance of 4-year-old for girl Maleah as cops eye gas can in trunk · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm missing five year old
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Speaker 1: girl presumably in danger, little Malia Davis, her stepfather Darien Vince.
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Speaker 1: His story to police details a violent attack and a
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Speaker 1: twenty four hour period where he was not conscious. It
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Speaker 1: begins Friday evening around nine. Vince tells police he was
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Speaker 1: headed to pick up Malia's mother from Bush Airport. He
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Speaker 1: says he pulled over near fifty nine and Greens to
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Speaker 1: check what he thought was a flat tire. Vince told
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Speaker 1: detectives three Hispanic men pulled up in a blue Chevy
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Speaker 1: pickup chuck to Hispanic males get out. One of them
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Speaker 1: makes a comment saying that Malia looks very nice, looks
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Speaker 1: very sweet. The other male hits Darien in the head.
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Speaker 1: Vince says he was knocked unconscious and the next twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours he recalls nothing. That is what we first
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Speaker 1: hear about a missing four year old little girl, Malia Davis.
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Speaker 1: That's our friends at ktr Vis's Courtney Fisher, Imancy Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: My how the story has changed in the disappearance of
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Speaker 1: this four year old little girl. The father's story comes
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Speaker 1: under attack, but another thing I don't understand is if
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Speaker 1: he's picking up the little girl's biomm, why didn't the
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Speaker 1: biomm report her missing immediately. There's a lot of questions
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Speaker 1: that remain unanswered. Joining me an all star panel doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, family lawyer, Kathleen Murphy, forensics expert
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith, also founder of Beer Bones Consulting and lecturer
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Speaker 1: at University of Florida. Joining me right now. Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter Lee Egan lee his story that
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Speaker 1: three Hispanic mails knocked him out and he woke up
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Speaker 1: by the side of the road changed. He had also
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Speaker 1: said that he pulled over when he thought he had
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Speaker 1: a flat tire. Hearing quote popping sounds, there's nothing wrong
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Speaker 1: with his car. In fact, his Niecean was found in
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Speaker 1: a totally different area in a parking lot. First of all,
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Speaker 1: answer my first question. The mother was coming into the
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Speaker 1: airport and he the stepfather, Darry and Vince was to
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Speaker 1: go pick her up. Why didn't she report then missing
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Speaker 1: immediately when they didn't show him to pick her up. Well, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: she claims that she did report the missing. She said
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Speaker 1: that she went to the police department and they said
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Speaker 1: they could not. This is her story. Now I don't
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Speaker 1: have word that the police actually said this, but her
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Speaker 1: story is the police said they couldn't follow missing person's
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Speaker 1: report because the little girl was with her stepfather. And
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Speaker 1: then they went the following day to fill out more
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Speaker 1: paperwork and it was during that time that police got
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Speaker 1: word that he was at an area hospital. And then
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Speaker 1: that's when the ambreller was created. Okay, I'm getting mixed
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Speaker 1: messages from Ulaly. The mother says. The bio mom of
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Speaker 1: this little girl says, I waited at the airport. When
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Speaker 1: they didn't show up, I went to try and report
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Speaker 1: them missing. Let me ask you a yes, no, do
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Speaker 1: police have any record that the mother, Britney Bowens, ever
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Speaker 1: came to the police department. No, not that we know of.
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Speaker 1: The story goes on from there, so many inconsistencies in
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Speaker 1: the father's statement, and in the last hours we are
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Speaker 1: learning very very disturbing news. To Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer
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Speaker 1: joining me out of North Carolina, Kathleen, let me ask
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Speaker 1: you a question. For many, many years, it was said
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Speaker 1: you can't report anyone missing until they've been gone twenty
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Speaker 1: four hours. That's not necessarily true. Anymore. Also, when you
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Speaker 1: report someone missing, the fact that that child may or
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Speaker 1: may not be the stepfather, that's not another reason that
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Speaker 1: they will not be reported missing. That's not true. They
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Speaker 1: would simply both be reported missing. You're right, You're right.
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Speaker 1: What I don't understand, Nancy, is if somebody wasn't at
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Speaker 1: the airport to pick me up, I'd be freaking out,
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Speaker 1: especially if this person had been previously abusive to my kid.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very disturbed about the entire scenario. When
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Speaker 1: you say abusive to your child, that is absolutely correct.
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Speaker 1: We know for a fact that this little girl, and
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Speaker 1: this is Britney Bowen's biological daughter, four year old Malia,
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Speaker 1: had been mistreated in the past. There's no doubt in
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Speaker 1: my mind about it. And the mother goes out of
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Speaker 1: town and leaves her with the stepfather, Darien Vince. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at khr K TV right now.
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Speaker 1: We're outside of Methodist Hospital in Sugarland. This is where
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Speaker 1: police say her stepfather, Darien Vince, show up yesterday night,
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Speaker 1: just before eleven pm with his one year old son,
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Speaker 1: no Malia. He told detectives here that they had been
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Speaker 1: abducted on Friday night, when they run their way to
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Speaker 1: the airport to pick up his wife, Malia's mother. He
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Speaker 1: says he got out to check on what he believes
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Speaker 1: was a flat tire, and that's when he was approached
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Speaker 1: by three Hispanic males in a blue Chevy pickup truck.
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Speaker 1: He says that he was hit on the head and
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Speaker 1: that's when he believes he's fell unconscious. Now the next
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Speaker 1: twenty four hours, there's a major gap that police are
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Speaker 1: hoping that you can help figure them out if you
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Speaker 1: happen to see Darien in this blue pickup truck, happened
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Speaker 1: to see the babies or these three Hispanic males that
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Speaker 1: he says abducted them. They want to hear from you
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Speaker 1: for twenty four hours. He says he doesn't know what
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Speaker 1: happened yesterday. He says that he woke up near the
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Speaker 1: Sugarland Mall, which is only about a mile from Methodist
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Speaker 1: Hospital here around six pm. He says that he tried
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Speaker 1: to wave down cars for help. No one helped, so
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Speaker 1: he walked here. He got here before eleven PM, and
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Speaker 1: that is where the story picks up again. I find
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Speaker 1: the whole thing very disconcerting. To crime online dot Com,
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter where you can find this and other breaking
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Speaker 1: crime injustice. Ne's Lee egan, what are the other inconsistencies
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Speaker 1: in the stepfather Darien Vince's statement. Basically, everything that he
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Speaker 1: said police have said have had holes in it from
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Speaker 1: the beginning till the end. There's no record anywhere of this,
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Speaker 1: at least as far as they found of this blue
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Speaker 1: pickup truck that he said kidnapped him, his toddler son
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Speaker 1: and Malia. No record of it. There was nothing wrong
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Speaker 1: with his tires. He said, here to popping sound in
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Speaker 1: his car and he got out the check his tires.
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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it. They have footage of him walking
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Speaker 1: to his home on April thirtieth with Malia, and then
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Speaker 1: no footage of her at all ever leaving that apartment.
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Speaker 1: So the day he said he was going to pick
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Speaker 1: up his girlfriend, Malia did not exit that apartment with him. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me understand something. You're saying that there is surveillance
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Speaker 1: video of the stepfather, Darien Vince walking into the family
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Speaker 1: apartment on April thirty correct day? Was it? They were
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Speaker 1: to go pick up the bio mom at the airport.
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Speaker 1: They were supposed to pick her up on May fourth.
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Speaker 1: She left on April thirtieth. Now we don't even see
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Speaker 1: her leaving the apartment, which is strange. It around seven
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Speaker 1: forty five am, camera's next door to their apartment caught
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Speaker 1: him walking back into the apartment with Malia, and then
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Speaker 1: after that she's never been seen again. I'm curious, you know,
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, domestic relations lawyer. I know you've heard me
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Speaker 1: say this before. I once had a judge that I
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Speaker 1: loved so much, Luther Albertson, and he would tell every
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Speaker 1: jury at the close of the evidence as they began deliberations,
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Speaker 1: it was their duty to make all witnesses speak the truth,
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Speaker 1: imputing perjury on no one. In other words, someone may
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Speaker 1: be telling the truth as they know it. Someone else
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Speaker 1: may have seen the incident from a different viewpoint, from
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Speaker 1: a different position, in different lighting, have heard something different
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Speaker 1: than the other witness heard. For instance, in this case,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if there is another entry or exit from
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Speaker 1: the apartment. I wonder if there's another way out then
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Speaker 1: that way. It seems to me very odd because the father,
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Speaker 1: it's my understanding, is coming from a parking area, that
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Speaker 1: you would go back the way you came, and it's
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Speaker 1: very disturbing to me that you don't see the mother
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Speaker 1: leaving the apartment on that day at any time. That's
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Speaker 1: the day she was supposed to fly out of town.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point, that's a very good point. But
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Speaker 1: regards forget about her for a moment, you never see
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Speaker 1: the little girl come back out. I mean, I see Grace.
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Speaker 1: We are bringing you the very latest in the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of a four year old little girl, Malia Davis. If
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Speaker 1: you have information seven one three two two two tips
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, the official story and how
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Speaker 1: Malia witnessing seems extreme. Thence told HPT three men abducted
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Speaker 1: the little girl near Greens Road in the East Texas
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Speaker 1: Freeway on Friday evening and then beat and dumped him
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Speaker 1: in Sugarland. He told investigators he doesn't remember any solid
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Speaker 1: details the father being assaulted and them all abducted and
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Speaker 1: then released. It sort of sounds almost like a made
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Speaker 1: for TV movie, and I think that anytime it's sort
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Speaker 1: of outside the norm, people pay attention to it. Beth
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Speaker 1: Alberts leads the Texas Center for the Missing. She spent
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Speaker 1: a career looking at these cases. Alberts insists all of
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Speaker 1: us in Houston need to hold out hope a miracle
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Speaker 1: may bring Liliah home. So you never for a minute
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Speaker 1: assume that something horrible has happened. You always assume that
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Speaker 1: you're going to find a live tile. You're hearing our
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Speaker 1: friend at kt RK TV, Steve Campion talking with Beth Alberts,
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Speaker 1: the CEO of Texas Center for the Missing, director of
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Speaker 1: the Houston Regional Amber Alert System. Right now, the search
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Speaker 1: is on for a four year oldttle girl, Malia Davis,
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Speaker 1: as the mystery surrounding her disappearance becomes more and more murky.
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Speaker 1: Joining me, Doctor Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatrist, Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer,
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Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert and founder of Bear Bones Consulting.
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Speaker 1: Lee Egan Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Joining me
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Speaker 1: right now, Lee Egan. So, the father shows up at
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Speaker 1: the hospital with his bio son who's about one year old.
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Speaker 1: Missing is Malia his stepdaughter? The mother, Brittany Bowens. I
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Speaker 1: guess by that time has come back. She noticeably is
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Speaker 1: not with him at the hospital when he goes to
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Speaker 1: the hospital. But yet you know he claims that he
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Speaker 1: walks for miles and miles to get to this hospital.
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Speaker 1: In Sugarland, police found the Nissan Ultimate that he said
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Speaker 1: was stolen. They saw that car pull up and dropped
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Speaker 1: him off. Somebody had to have been we don't know
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Speaker 1: who it is, but somebody had to have dropped him off.
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Speaker 1: Then the car leaves, Brittany was nowhere. I mean, we
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Speaker 1: don't know a lot of people understand that his stepfather's
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Speaker 1: Nissan was found parked in a parking lot. Is that correct?
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Speaker 1: That is correct, But I'm hearing you say that very
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Speaker 1: same Nissan dropped him off at the hospital. Correct. Well,
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Speaker 1: then he's lying. Oh yeah, well wait a minute, wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, hold on, let me back it up. Was
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Speaker 1: the Nissan found before he went to the hospital. No,
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Speaker 1: it was not a few days after. I think it
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Speaker 1: was found Thursday, so it's not about three or four
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Speaker 1: days after. Well, then he's definitely lying because according to
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Speaker 1: his account, he was hit over the head by three
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Speaker 1: Hispanics that took Malia when he after he pulled over,
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Speaker 1: and that Nissan with a car problem, possibly a flat tire.
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Speaker 1: He says he wakes up by the side of the
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Speaker 1: road and he can't flag down a car and he
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Speaker 1: walks the whole way with his one year old son,
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Speaker 1: who is still with him. Now. Lee Egan is telling
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Speaker 1: me there's video surveillance showing the father pull up to
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Speaker 1: the hospital in his Nissan, somebody else driving. He's still
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Speaker 1: saying his Nissan was stolen, and then it turns up
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Speaker 1: at a parking lot like it's abandoned. That's got to
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Speaker 1: be a lie. Kathleen Murphy, that is a lie. That
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Speaker 1: is a lie. And when I don't think this guy
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Speaker 1: anticipated that the cameras would pick up that Nissan. I
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Speaker 1: want to know who was driving the Nisa. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: want to know where the mom was this whole time.
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Speaker 1: Back to you, Lee Egan. I'm very disturbed about the
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Speaker 1: surveillance video of their apartment showing him and a little
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Speaker 1: boy walking in, and you see Molia with them, and
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Speaker 1: then she's never shown coming out. I mean, I'd like
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Speaker 1: to verify if the mother act went to the airport.
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Speaker 1: To start with, we are learning a lot of information.
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Speaker 1: It's coming in fast and furious regarding Melia, but the
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Speaker 1: car was process to Karen Smith joining me, forensics expert,
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Speaker 1: founder of Bare Bones Consulting and lecturer at University of Florida, Karen,
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Speaker 1: what do we know about the Nissan and the processing
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Speaker 1: of it. Well, they brought in human cadaver dogs. These
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Speaker 1: are canines that are trained specifically to detect the scent
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Speaker 1: of human decomposition, and apparently there were hits on the
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Speaker 1: trunk of this Nissan for human decomposition. These dogs are
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Speaker 1: trained just like drug dogs, just like incendiary dogs or
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Speaker 1: bomb trained dogs. They are trained specifically to detect only
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Speaker 1: for that scent. And when they got the hit on
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Speaker 1: the trunk, that let investigators know that there may have been, unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: a body that had either started to decompose or was
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Speaker 1: decomposed in the trunk of that car. Oh no, you know,
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Speaker 1: I've worked with cadaver dogs many many times. They do
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Speaker 1: not hit on animal remains. They won't hit on any
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Speaker 1: other dead creature. Only human tissue or human remains. That's
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Speaker 1: all they will hit on. They're not going to be
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Speaker 1: chasing a tea bone stick on somebody's backyard grill. That's
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Speaker 1: not happening. So you've got a cadaver dog hitting on
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Speaker 1: the Nissan trunk. Lea Egan Crime Online investigative reporter, what
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Speaker 1: can you tell me about the video that shows the father,
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Speaker 1: Darien Vince, coming out of the apartment with a laundry basket.
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Speaker 1: He had a laundry basket and inside the laundry basket
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Speaker 1: was a large black trash bag and several battles of bleach.
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Speaker 1: Now police say the way he was walking, he's kind
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Speaker 1: of leaning back in his wobble, was a little bit unsteady,
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Speaker 1: meaning that whatever was in that basket had to be
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Speaker 1: heavy enough to make him unsturdy while he was walking.
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Speaker 1: You know, they don't know what was in there. They're
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Speaker 1: just saying it had to be something heavy. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this. The police said that the defendant told
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Speaker 1: them that there should not be any blood in his apartment.
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Speaker 1: The officer reviewed video surveillance then from the porch of
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Speaker 1: the neighbor's apartment next to the defendant's apartment, and the
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Speaker 1: footage showed that on at one forty pm on Friday,
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Speaker 1: made a third that they recognized the defendant carrying out
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Speaker 1: from the apartment outside the apartment from inside to outside
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Speaker 1: a large blue laundry basket with a large black trash
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Speaker 1: bag inside that it seemed to walk out of the
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Speaker 1: camera's view and then return about three minutes later without
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Speaker 1: the basket. He's then observed walking out of the apartment
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Speaker 1: with cleaning supplies, including bleach. They did not view the
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Speaker 1: played ever leaving the apartment. It is a defendant leave
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Speaker 1: later with only his two year old son from the
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Speaker 1: apartment joining me. Forensic psychiatrist doctor Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober,
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, a trial lawyer. You're the shrink,
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Speaker 1: you're the MD, plus the psychiatrist. But I can't help
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Speaker 1: but make a correlation between the fact when somebody goes
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Speaker 1: missing or gets murdered, suddenly the husband turns into a
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Speaker 1: neat neck. Let's see, I remember one case where a
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Speaker 1: little girl went missing. The perp bleached the whole house.
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Speaker 1: Let's see Scott Peterson cleaned the house top to bottom.
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Speaker 1: Jody Arius after she murdered Travis Alexander cleaned everything, even
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Speaker 1: washed the sheets with her digital camera in there with
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Speaker 1: photos that all about Doctor Daniel Bober. What is it
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Speaker 1: about a missing person or a murder that brings out
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Speaker 1: the neat nick in people that claim they're innocent. Suddenly
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Speaker 1: they can't get enough bleach. You know what, Nancy, when
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Speaker 1: you see enough of these child abduction cases, obviously it
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Speaker 1: makes you cynical. But this case has so many red
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Speaker 1: flags and inconsistencies all over it. You know. The bleaching
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Speaker 1: thing just people look guilty. I think they think they're
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Speaker 1: trying to get rid of the evidence, which obviously the
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Speaker 1: bleach does not completely do. But it just makes them
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Speaker 1: look guilty, like all of a sudden they decided to,
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Speaker 1: you know, go on a bleach vest and bleach everything.
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Speaker 1: It looks. It looks ridiculous, makes them look guilty. Crime
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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Surrounded by his family, Craig Davis
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Speaker 1: spoke with ABC thirteen in his first interview since his
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Speaker 1: daughter's disappearance. Investigators a four year old Malia has been
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Speaker 1: gone since Friday. I haven't spoken to the public because
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Speaker 1: I I can't talk about my daughter with it. I
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Speaker 1: can't cont home my notions. I can't predict myself. I
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Speaker 1: break down and I cry. In a video posted to Instagram,
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Speaker 1: Davis shared sweet moments with his daughter as he anguishes
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Speaker 1: over her whereabouts now. Desperate for answers, this father says
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Speaker 1: he wants to speak with that step dad. I'm not
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Speaker 1: putting the blame on anybody. I just need the questions
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Speaker 1: that aren't answered to be answered. There's so many unanswered questions,
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Speaker 1: and it's not for the public to answer them for me.
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Speaker 1: It's not for police officers to answer them for me.
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Speaker 1: It's not for the news to answer them for me.
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Speaker 1: It's for Derrion to answer for me. You're hearing her
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Speaker 1: friend kt RK Shelley Shoulders talking with Malia's biological father,
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Speaker 1: Craig Davis, demanding answers. Karen Smith joining me forensics expert,
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Speaker 1: founder of Bare Bows Consulting. She's also a lecturer at
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Speaker 1: University of Florida. Karen Smith. Right now, cops, according to
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Speaker 1: my sources, are considering multiple jumping sites. What's your insights
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Speaker 1: At this point, they have a wide berth to cover,
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Speaker 1: but the first place they need to look is dumpsters
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Speaker 1: and garbage sites around the area where the apartment was,
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Speaker 1: where the last place Malia was seen. And once they
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Speaker 1: get that information, they need to find out where those
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Speaker 1: dumpsters and dump sites are taken in a landfill, and
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Speaker 1: people don't understand that landfills are actually very organized places.
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Speaker 1: They are specific dump places for specific dumpsters. So if
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Speaker 1: they can trace the car via video surveillance and find
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Speaker 1: out if it was parked behind a business. I had
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Speaker 1: a place where there was a wind Dixie, which is
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Speaker 1: a supermarket. A car pulled in and dumped a small
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Speaker 1: infant in a trash bag there, and we spent three
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Speaker 1: days in a landfill trying to find his body. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't get any worse, but when you go to a landfill,
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Speaker 1: you need to look for the black trash bag, You
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Speaker 1: need to look for anything that would involve this small child.
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Speaker 1: It is a painstak process. But I'm assuming that's what
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Speaker 1: law enforcement is doing at this point, is looking at
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Speaker 1: the dump sites around the area, seeing if anybody saw
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Speaker 1: that silver Nissan, seeing if there's any video surveillance of
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Speaker 1: that car, and then following it up from there. That's
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Speaker 1: exactly correct, Karen Smith, I think well. According to insign
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Speaker 1: into the investigation, cops are looking at any and all
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Speaker 1: bodies of water. That includes creeks, that includes lakes, That
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Speaker 1: includes any type of a levee, a pond, a river,
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Speaker 1: any body of water, whether it is man made or natural.
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Speaker 1: They will also be looking at dumps, the nearest dumps,
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Speaker 1: the nearest recycling plants, any type of environmental waste disposal area.
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Speaker 1: They will also be looking behind industrial sites where you
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Speaker 1: have a lot of the big dumpsters that are taken
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Speaker 1: away on a regular basis. Also, I think they will
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Speaker 1: be looking at the location where that family's trash is taken.
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Speaker 1: Once it's taken away by the trash guys, what landfill
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Speaker 1: does it go to? They'll be sorting through all of
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Speaker 1: that or launching searches that way. But in the midst
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Speaker 1: of all this very disturbing Knees complaint was not seen
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Speaker 1: lea in the apartment at all. And then on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: made the fifth, they go to the apartment and that
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Speaker 1: with the defendant's girlfriend, Britney Bowens, and with consent, they
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Speaker 1: entered the apartment and observed drops of blood in the
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Speaker 1: hallway leading to the bathroom of the apartment on various
21:41
Speaker 1: surfaces of the bathroom. Crime scene investigators were called out.
21:48
Speaker 1: There was a chemical reagent that was sprayed that reacted
21:52
Speaker 1: to blood in the hallway and bathroom in the apartment
21:55
Speaker 1: reacted the presence of blood. It was not visible to
21:57
Speaker 1: the unaided eye. Examples were collected for further testing. You
22:03
Speaker 1: are hearing local law enforcement speaking regarding the home. What
22:08
Speaker 1: does it mean. We understand that blood is found in
22:15
Speaker 1: the home. Blood found in the hallway and the bathroom
22:19
Speaker 1: using a chemical agent. What does that say to me?
22:21
Speaker 1: Likely luminol blood so tiny, so minute, not visible to
22:28
Speaker 1: the naked eye. The problem with that in a court
22:32
Speaker 1: of law, Kathleen Murphy, renowned lawyer, it can be argued
22:36
Speaker 1: that Malia is a blood we know she recently had
22:39
Speaker 1: a head injury, for example, should rightfully be in the home.
22:44
Speaker 1: I can't count the number of scrape knees and cuts
22:48
Speaker 1: and abrasions that children have had. If someone looked at
22:51
Speaker 1: our home with luminol, they would find their blood. What
22:56
Speaker 1: concerns me is the degree of clean up bleach that
23:02
Speaker 1: may have been used, and also the type of blood marking.
23:07
Speaker 1: Was it a spatter, was it blowback, was it slingback?
23:12
Speaker 1: Was it a blood droplet? All of that's going to
23:15
Speaker 1: be significant. You know. It's just amazing to me that
23:20
Speaker 1: if the mother was concerned about Malia, why would she
23:24
Speaker 1: leave her alone. That that's a big question in my mind,
23:28
Speaker 1: and I want corroboration that she actually did go on
23:31
Speaker 1: that trip and did fly back crime stories with Nancy Grace.
23:46
Speaker 1: There was blood splatter evidence in the apartment. There was
23:51
Speaker 1: lunar sprague in chemical spray that was all over the
23:54
Speaker 1: apartment at the home side investigators left. When you look
23:58
Speaker 1: at the video, the video footage extensively, you can tell
24:02
Speaker 1: what was going on, and you could tell he made
24:04
Speaker 1: two trips to buy big bottles of bleach. This was
24:07
Speaker 1: a man who never cleaned the house of ever, but
24:09
Speaker 1: he's buying big bottles of bleach, getting a big garbage bag,
24:13
Speaker 1: and there's blood splatter, et cetera around a drainage area
24:17
Speaker 1: of the house. Why would human body tissue be in
24:20
Speaker 1: a drain system. Why would human body tissue be in
24:24
Speaker 1: the pipes under the sink, in the pipes under the bathtub.
24:28
Speaker 1: Why would that be? Why would that be human body
24:30
Speaker 1: tissue found around increases and cracks of the bathtub? Oh
24:35
Speaker 1: my stars, just hearing that. It's so upsetting. You're hearing
24:43
Speaker 1: a khou interview with activist Canal X, who is advising
24:51
Speaker 1: Molly's mom. Human tissue in the drainage area of the home,
25:00
Speaker 1: in the pipes under the bathroom, blood all over the apartment.
25:06
Speaker 1: According to quinnell X, I mean to doctor Daniel Bober
25:11
Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists, there's a big difference between saying blood was
25:16
Speaker 1: found in the bathroom where you expect the bathroom to
25:19
Speaker 1: have blood in your the band aids, for instance. But
25:22
Speaker 1: human tissue, what do they mean by that, doctor Bober. Well,
25:26
Speaker 1: you know they could if the body was dismembered, or
25:29
Speaker 1: if the body was cut up, there could be you know,
25:32
Speaker 1: skin cells, there could be any any amount of tissue there.
25:35
Speaker 1: But it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
25:37
Speaker 1: a minute, that's a big difference. Skin cells. I mean,
25:42
Speaker 1: skin cells could be nothing, right, but they're This guy
25:45
Speaker 1: is making it sound like there's been a dismemberment, right. Well,
25:48
Speaker 1: human tissue is different than just finding blood. As you said,
25:50
Speaker 1: blood could just be someone with shaving their legs or
25:52
Speaker 1: they scrape their knee. But if it's actually human tissue,
25:55
Speaker 1: that means there was some sort of a four year
25:58
Speaker 1: old girl, doctor Bob, Doctor Bobar, do you have children? Okay, well,
26:03
Speaker 1: let me just tell you something for the day that
26:05
Speaker 1: you do have children. Your four year old little girl
26:08
Speaker 1: will not be shaving her legs. I don't think anywhere, okay,
26:13
Speaker 1: but I understand you. But if it's her blood, you've
26:16
Speaker 1: got four year old Maliah, You've got the little boy,
26:19
Speaker 1: you've got the dad and the mom. If it's just
26:23
Speaker 1: the mom, shaving her legs. That doesn't mean you're not
26:25
Speaker 1: gonna find Malia's blood. It's my understanding. The blood came
26:30
Speaker 1: from a comparison to a tooth brush. To Lee Egan,
26:34
Speaker 1: crimal line dot Com investigating reporter, what do you know
26:36
Speaker 1: about that? At least it confirmed that the DNA from
26:39
Speaker 1: Malia's toothbrush did match the blood evidence down inside the
26:42
Speaker 1: apartment as her So to you, Karen Smith, forensics expert,
26:47
Speaker 1: you're hearing Bober and I go round and round and
26:49
Speaker 1: round about what is human tissue? Could it just be
26:52
Speaker 1: from shaving, it's the little girl's blood. Why would the
26:56
Speaker 1: little girl's human tissue, which is different from blood, be
27:01
Speaker 1: in the drains? Karen Smith, and you heard Lee eaganist
27:05
Speaker 1: report that tissue that blood matches back up to Malia Davis.
27:10
Speaker 1: I don't think she's shaving yet, No, she's not. This
27:14
Speaker 1: is you know, as we've gone down a nefarious wormhole here.
27:18
Speaker 1: When you have human tissue in a drain, there is
27:21
Speaker 1: no other explanation other than that child was subjected to
27:26
Speaker 1: something extraordinarily nefarious in that location, meaning you know, she
27:33
Speaker 1: may have been dismembered, There may have been a severe beating,
27:37
Speaker 1: that that released some tissue that was then washed down
27:40
Speaker 1: the drain. Anyway that you you look at this, it
27:44
Speaker 1: is a very very bad to break down DNA. It's
27:49
Speaker 1: going to take a lot more than bleach. You need
27:52
Speaker 1: something like um muriatic acid. I think you can find
27:56
Speaker 1: that in something like black Swan Karen Smith. Bleach does
28:01
Speaker 1: not necessarily break down DNA, as we're finding out right now, No,
28:05
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It can break down some of what's called
28:07
Speaker 1: the larger alleles, but the smaller alleles are very immune
28:11
Speaker 1: to bleach. They're very hearty. When you have that long
28:14
Speaker 1: standing reaction with blood versus the big firework that goes
28:18
Speaker 1: off with bleach, any trained investigator will know the difference.
28:21
Speaker 1: That's where they're going to take their samples. That's where
28:23
Speaker 1: they're going to take the Q tip and and find
28:25
Speaker 1: those areas of blood. And when they matched it, they
28:28
Speaker 1: use Malia's toothbrush. They use mitochondrial DNA from that toothbrush,
28:32
Speaker 1: and there was a match that led to the maternal
28:35
Speaker 1: line of Brittany Bowers, the maternal mother of Malia Davis. Okay,
28:40
Speaker 1: when you're saying mitochondrial DNA, you mean DNA from the
28:46
Speaker 1: mother's let me say what the mother contributes to your DNA.
28:53
Speaker 1: So if you yeah, if the toothbrush isn't going to
28:56
Speaker 1: give you a lot of nucleated DNA, which is which
28:58
Speaker 1: is what you need to run normal DNA. Mitochondrial DNA
29:02
Speaker 1: is present in every single cell, and it's a little
29:05
Speaker 1: more delicate to work with, but it runs down the
29:07
Speaker 1: maternal line of ancestry. That's correct. And speaking of the
29:11
Speaker 1: maternal line of ancestry, listen to this. At the courthouse,
29:18
Speaker 1: people directed their anger towards Malia's mother. All eyes on
29:21
Speaker 1: Brittany Bowen's as she walked down the hall, not saying
29:24
Speaker 1: a word. Vince, her ex fiance, did not appear. Critics
29:28
Speaker 1: questioning why she would leave her little girl with the
29:30
Speaker 1: man she says was dangerous. You have so many holes
29:34
Speaker 1: in your story. I don't believe you at all. I
29:38
Speaker 1: don't believe you. I will never believe you. You're just
29:40
Speaker 1: as guilty as him. She needs to be locked up
29:44
Speaker 1: along with him. She deserves to be locked up because
29:47
Speaker 1: that's not a real mother. A real mother would partake
29:49
Speaker 1: their child at enemies necessary, and she didn't do that.
29:52
Speaker 1: There are twenty eight hours from a third to May
29:54
Speaker 1: fourth event is unaccounted for. According to police, they believe
29:58
Speaker 1: he used that time to dispose of the little girl's
30:00
Speaker 1: body and all of this as her mother was out
30:03
Speaker 1: of town. As parents, we gotta be much wiser. You
30:07
Speaker 1: know of enough people whole week shoals to put it in,
30:10
Speaker 1: you know, around our kids. You're hearing Jessica Willie at
30:14
Speaker 1: ABC thirteen of Houston. There is a protest at the courthouse.
30:18
Speaker 1: People angry at the mother, Brittany Bowens, for leaving Malia
30:22
Speaker 1: with the stepfather. And to top it all off, as
30:25
Speaker 1: Jackie Howard here in the studio accurately pointed out, by
30:28
Speaker 1: the mother's own words, she just told the stepfather she
30:32
Speaker 1: planned to leave him and he was angry. And isn't
30:36
Speaker 1: it true? To Lee Egan Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
30:40
Speaker 1: there had been an incident recently where this little girl
30:44
Speaker 1: had to have a portion of her skull removed because
30:48
Speaker 1: she had swelling bleeding to the brain. And she recovered
30:51
Speaker 1: as she had the portion of the skull put back.
30:54
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't tell me there is not abuse
30:57
Speaker 1: in that home. The little girl had three different surgeries
31:01
Speaker 1: on her head after she fell over The mother's story
31:04
Speaker 1: is she fell over from a table and hit her head.
31:07
Speaker 1: Doctor say, there's no way that kind of trauma could
31:10
Speaker 1: have occurred just from falling from a table. Yeah, there's
31:13
Speaker 1: no way falling three feet max. From a chair or
31:18
Speaker 1: even a high chair that you're gonna that's like a
31:21
Speaker 1: blow to the head, like being in a car crash,
31:24
Speaker 1: to have bleeding and swelling to the brain. I'm not
31:28
Speaker 1: buying that for one minute. So Kathleen Murphy with me
31:33
Speaker 1: veteran lawyer, family attorney. I'm sitting here talking with Jackie
31:37
Speaker 1: as we're all talking all at the same time, and
31:40
Speaker 1: she accurately is pointing out that's where the charge of
31:43
Speaker 1: abuse of a corpse comes from, because that's all he's
31:45
Speaker 1: really charged with right now. He is not charged with
31:48
Speaker 1: kidnapping or murder, but because of the human tissue in
31:52
Speaker 1: the drains, that must be where that charge is coming from,
31:54
Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy coming from. And your listeners should know that
31:58
Speaker 1: his bail was set at nine hundred and ninety nine
32:02
Speaker 1: nine nine thousand dollars, that it was reduced to forty
32:08
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Why was it reduced? The Lee Egan Basically,
32:12
Speaker 1: they don't think he's going to go anywhere. They don't
32:14
Speaker 1: think he has a means to go anywhere. This is
32:16
Speaker 1: from an attorney who is representing him now. But does
32:20
Speaker 1: it know the full extent of what's going on. But
32:23
Speaker 1: from what his attorney said, they don't think. The judge
32:26
Speaker 1: doesn't think he's going to run. Has he gotten out yet? Lee,
32:31
Speaker 1: he's not out. No One to forty five thousand dollars bond.
32:34
Speaker 1: You only put up forty five hundred dollars with me
32:38
Speaker 1: right now, Special guests, the founder of Texas Equisearch, Tim Miller.
32:43
Speaker 1: After suffering a horrible loss of his own, he has
32:47
Speaker 1: devoted his life to finding missing people, specifically missing children,
32:52
Speaker 1: and he has been scouring the mail route where Malia
32:57
Speaker 1: davis stepfather Darien vs once delivered mail. Tim Miller, Number one,
33:04
Speaker 1: you're at the search scene right now. Please tell me
33:08
Speaker 1: what you've been doing to finally, is starting with scouring
33:12
Speaker 1: that mail route. Well, we actually got rumored that he
33:15
Speaker 1: was a mail man, and we confirmed that to the
33:18
Speaker 1: post office and actually that was a postal inspector h
33:23
Speaker 1: and we got confirmed his route. I was in a helicopters.
33:27
Speaker 1: We flew that whole route. We've actually got a ground
33:30
Speaker 1: searchers our ATVs there now you know, and what I
33:35
Speaker 1: was looking for, as of course your little body or
33:38
Speaker 1: any evidence of the body when he hid in burned
33:42
Speaker 1: blue of the layout, because you know, when he left
33:44
Speaker 1: that apartment he had the blue close basket and a
33:47
Speaker 1: trash bag inside of it, and when a vehicle was located,
33:50
Speaker 1: the blue close baskets still there in a brand new
33:53
Speaker 1: gas can, which is a smitchet of gas in the
33:56
Speaker 1: bottom b Hold on, well, I feel like I'm drinking
33:58
Speaker 1: out of a fire hydrant, Tim Miller. So the first
34:01
Speaker 1: thing you're telling me is you confirmed that the stepfather
34:04
Speaker 1: deer Invince once we're with the mail service and delivered mail.
34:08
Speaker 1: You've scoured that route. But you're piecing together another theory
34:13
Speaker 1: right now, a theory we have not heard, and that
34:16
Speaker 1: is that this child was murdered and that her body
34:20
Speaker 1: was burned. You're basing that on the fact that a
34:24
Speaker 1: gas can, a brand new gas can, was found in
34:28
Speaker 1: the trunk of deer in Vince, stepfather deer in Vince's
34:31
Speaker 1: car with just a tiny bit of gas in it.
34:34
Speaker 1: A tiny bit of gas. What do you believe cops
34:39
Speaker 1: are or should be doing right now to track down
34:42
Speaker 1: whether he went and bought gas to dispose of evidence. Well,
34:45
Speaker 1: what has happened right now? Happened since the the Hiccorps
34:48
Speaker 1: Fineman is while it's literally going to every store, they
34:53
Speaker 1: could go to the salescass cans and they've got the
34:56
Speaker 1: scan number on. They're trying to find out where this
34:59
Speaker 1: gas head. And was thought if they have surveilance, what
35:02
Speaker 1: time and where he bought the cask cants, that can
35:05
Speaker 1: kind of narrow the hopefully narrow the actually search area
35:09
Speaker 1: down or confront him why did you buy this cask
35:12
Speaker 1: came which of course he's not going to say anything
35:14
Speaker 1: now since he's lawyered up. But another interesting thing, Nancy,
35:19
Speaker 1: is we got a rumor that a year ago that
35:23
Speaker 1: he actually told his mother in law he said, you
35:26
Speaker 1: know what, if I ever murdered anybody, there's places out
35:28
Speaker 1: in a Row Sharon area that you could put a
35:31
Speaker 1: body nobody ever find it. And we thought that that
35:34
Speaker 1: was a rumor. The other day Plannel called me and
35:37
Speaker 1: he was actually West Britney, the biological mother. So I
35:41
Speaker 1: brought that question up about the mail route and then
35:43
Speaker 1: she confirmed it, and then we worked to see where
35:46
Speaker 1: the route is at and then I told Clonel, I
35:48
Speaker 1: said Cornell were another rumor that he actually said told
35:52
Speaker 1: his mother in law that there was an area if
35:54
Speaker 1: he ever murdered anybody. And Brittany was West Clannell and
35:58
Speaker 1: Brittney said, yes, he told my mother that. My mother
36:00
Speaker 1: told me that just not very long ago. What he
36:03
Speaker 1: said that she didn't think about it at the time.
36:06
Speaker 1: So what the mail route and what he had Leslie
36:10
Speaker 1: told his brother in law. It was like, then, I mean,
36:13
Speaker 1: this is a hot area that we have to do
36:17
Speaker 1: right now and wea So you're talking about Rocharon, right, yeah,
36:21
Speaker 1: Rocharon and that his area that it was a spot
36:24
Speaker 1: that he did have his mail route and it's pretty
36:26
Speaker 1: isolated out Now, let me ask you this tim, how
36:29
Speaker 1: far away is Rocheron? Is that Fort beIN County? This
36:33
Speaker 1: chin there is going to be Missouria County, just out
36:36
Speaker 1: of Fort Bend County and it may possibly be at
36:41
Speaker 1: past summers, say maybe eight miles from where the vehicle
36:44
Speaker 1: was found Rocheron. Yes, then, yeah, Rocherin about eight miles
36:48
Speaker 1: from the vehicle. Now, let me ask you a question.
36:51
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that he had actually made the
36:54
Speaker 1: statement and it's being confirmed. If I was ever going
36:57
Speaker 1: to get rid of a body, I know a place
36:58
Speaker 1: down in Rocheron where I would do it. And that
37:01
Speaker 1: is about eight miles for Sharon, is about eight miles
37:05
Speaker 1: from where the car his car was found, yes, bat
37:08
Speaker 1: eight miles most. And again you know, once you get
37:11
Speaker 1: involved in these things, plenty of rumors come out. Again. Brittany, Brittany,
37:16
Speaker 1: the mother one Hundon, confirmed that that he told his
37:21
Speaker 1: mother in law that about a year ago. And you
37:24
Speaker 1: know we had first heard that he just worked for
37:27
Speaker 1: the post off at the very short time. But again
37:30
Speaker 1: we met with actual postal inspector that's working on this
37:34
Speaker 1: case now also and he actually had that meal route
37:38
Speaker 1: for nearly a year before he got terminated, and so
37:44
Speaker 1: you know, if it's there, he knows the area. Well, Tim,
37:48
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the FBI removing the
37:53
Speaker 1: computer from the Nissan to try to try where the
37:57
Speaker 1: car and being that's the word that I from the
38:00
Speaker 1: investigators that you know, they're doing everything they can. They
38:03
Speaker 1: took computer out of the cars so and sent that
38:07
Speaker 1: off to ATBI so they can analyze and see what
38:09
Speaker 1: kind of day it's in that to see if it
38:11
Speaker 1: will show a track where one of the vehicle has been.
38:15
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you know, nothing positive as came with that yet,
38:20
Speaker 1: and again we're hoping it does. And I remember talking
38:25
Speaker 1: to the detective and I said, my gods, any of
38:28
Speaker 1: that phone stuff comes through, and that comes through on
38:32
Speaker 1: a computer. They aspires distance way that he went, where
38:36
Speaker 1: we need to start our search. Well, I gotta tell
38:38
Speaker 1: you something, Tim Miller. This guy, the stepfather Darien Vince,
38:42
Speaker 1: sure has some bad luck with cell phones. What do
38:45
Speaker 1: you know, it's a yeah, it's some bad luck with
38:48
Speaker 1: cell phones. You know. We got him on that surveillance
38:52
Speaker 1: a little like one o'clock going out with the basket.
38:55
Speaker 1: Then a little after five o'clock his phone goes dead.
38:59
Speaker 1: It is bad ry charge. He doesn't work, so in
39:03
Speaker 1: an he's fifty miles away to pick his wife up
39:07
Speaker 1: and then he think he has a flat tire and
39:09
Speaker 1: then he's jacked by three Mexicans. That it just so
39:13
Speaker 1: happened that they bring him right that down to the
39:15
Speaker 1: area almost where he left from. His car is seen
39:18
Speaker 1: in that area at two fifty four that Saturday afternoon.
39:24
Speaker 1: And then it's just a real strange in the business
39:26
Speaker 1: though that she has kind of daunt him off at
39:28
Speaker 1: the hospital. So you know, something just doesn't that up
39:32
Speaker 1: in this story. Doesn't fancy, No, it doesn't. Do you
39:35
Speaker 1: really believe, Tim Miller, did the mother really even go
39:39
Speaker 1: out of town because there's video of her going into
39:42
Speaker 1: the apartment, but there's no video of her coming out
39:44
Speaker 1: of the apartment. Well, she did go out of town,
39:46
Speaker 1: and apparently it was her father's funeral and she did
39:50
Speaker 1: go up there, so that you know, it is concerned
39:53
Speaker 1: that she was out of town. But the thing that's
39:55
Speaker 1: kind of strange also supposedly the children were taken to
40:00
Speaker 1: take share of that morning. But then Malia apparently he
40:06
Speaker 1: brought her back and she was apparently in the apartment
40:10
Speaker 1: for like a hour and a half before mom last
40:13
Speaker 1: mom said that she know she don't ever remember seeing
40:16
Speaker 1: her in the apartment. So you know, who's telling the truth.
40:19
Speaker 1: She's lying? You know what? I think that I think
40:21
Speaker 1: Whitey's lying. I think he's lying. And it's you know,
40:26
Speaker 1: so now it's law enforcement and in us, Well here's
40:29
Speaker 1: another idea, Tim, guys with me, my long time friend, Tim.
40:35
Speaker 1: He has volunteered his time, his energy, his blood, sweat
40:40
Speaker 1: and tears to finding missing children? What about Okay, you
40:45
Speaker 1: do not believe, from what you're telling me, that Malia
40:49
Speaker 1: was put in a trash bag and then put in
40:52
Speaker 1: the apartment dumpster. You think what you're telling me, she
40:57
Speaker 1: was taken out in that blue laundry basketball. I think
41:00
Speaker 1: I think that was definitely her in the garbage bag,
41:02
Speaker 1: in the longer basket. He stopped somewhere to go ahead
41:06
Speaker 1: and buy that gass can get gas. I truly believe
41:10
Speaker 1: he took her outy burner somewhere, and unfortunately we haven't
41:15
Speaker 1: found that. We haven't found that spot yet. I truly
41:18
Speaker 1: believe that she was burned. That's what I believe. Of course,
41:21
Speaker 1: he don't have evidence of that. It's slightly circumstantial. You know,
41:27
Speaker 1: it's hard to burn a body. To him, it's hard
41:30
Speaker 1: to burn a body. It is harder than I understand.
41:32
Speaker 1: You've got to get twenty three hundred degrees before it's cremated.
41:35
Speaker 1: Two goons of gas is not going to do it.
41:38
Speaker 1: But you know, what are these people thinking? I mean,
41:42
Speaker 1: I have found body before they have been burned, and yes,
41:46
Speaker 1: the flesh will be burnt off. The phones are still
41:48
Speaker 1: there and stuff. It's a terrible odor. So you know
41:51
Speaker 1: we're looking for burn marks, just certainly follow odors. Well,
41:55
Speaker 1: what do you think about his phone? Tim, Tim Miller,
41:57
Speaker 1: what do you think about his phone? Because I mean,
41:59
Speaker 1: I'm ever seen such bad luck with your phone. Your
42:01
Speaker 1: phone goes dead, then your charger won't work, your battery
42:05
Speaker 1: goes dead, then your charger won't work, and now nobody
42:08
Speaker 1: can find his phone. Has his phone been taken by police? Yeah,
42:13
Speaker 1: nobody can find his phone, and certainly after it goes
42:17
Speaker 1: after it goes dead. Yeah, the story is charger was broken,
42:21
Speaker 1: and he thinks the other flat tire, and then for
42:24
Speaker 1: the jacket and a blue pickup truck. My god, if
42:28
Speaker 1: you can't you know, if you can't lie any better,
42:30
Speaker 1: now you might lit Joe too. Do you think he's
42:33
Speaker 1: thrown that phone? Do you think he's thrown that phone
42:36
Speaker 1: in a body of water or gotten rid of it somehow?
42:38
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times in these phones he
42:41
Speaker 1: was just batteries dead. There will get a little ping
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Speaker 1: report off the powers unless that thing is just batteries
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Speaker 1: taken out or it's shorted out. So did he take
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Speaker 1: the battery out? Did he put it in water or
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Speaker 1: something like that? Totally shorted out set could not be tracked.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what, there's only one piece person he
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Speaker 1: knows and he's just not saying question. Tim Miller joining
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Speaker 1: me from the scene of the search. Where do you
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Speaker 1: believe he put the body? I don't know. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He had a big need of opportunity and got a
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Speaker 1: long time and chill we I mean, we've had several
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Speaker 1: leads and tips come in and people seeing the vehicle
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Speaker 1: and God bless up, but many of them just mistaken
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Speaker 1: identities and stuff. I don't dan see where he's put
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Speaker 1: that body. But I know this for a fact, Malaya
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Speaker 1: is not where she chose to be, and she doesn't
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Speaker 1: like where she's at right now. And I only hope
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Speaker 1: that a month from now we're not on the phone,
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Speaker 1: still talking and she's not located. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: keep doing what we're doing until we just feel as
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Speaker 1: overord up being effective anymore, and we'll do our best.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's doing their best. I think we got all the
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Speaker 1: experience between law enforcement and US and artists and aging season,
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Speaker 1: we got alogmin we haven't had that little bit of
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Speaker 1: luck to go along with it. But you know, Nancy
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Speaker 1: Animal a week ago, everything that we can do, and
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Speaker 1: the results were up to God. And you know what
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Speaker 1: he's He's been there of force a lot of times before,
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Speaker 1: so I asked him to come aboard one more time.
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Speaker 1: Tim Miller, Texas Eco Search on the scene right now.
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Speaker 1: If you have information or think you have information on
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Speaker 1: the disappearance of four year on Eliah Davis, please call
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Speaker 1: seven one three two two two tips seven one three
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Speaker 1: two two two eight four seven seven. We wait as
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Speaker 1: the search goes on Nancy Gray's crime story, signing off
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Speaker 1: goodbye friend,