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NFL Week 7 NFL DFS - MNF | Ravens@Bucs | Chargers@Cardinals | DraftKings Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all systems do clear the lift on. What's up everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of a special edition the Monday Night Show. We've
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  Speaker 1: got the two gamer is back. We're gonna break down
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  Speaker 1: both games as a two game slate perspective. Got hoop
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  Speaker 1: title here with me is always in good news, Hoopster.
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  Speaker 1: It's no longer Sunday, it's Monday, but it is still
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  Speaker 1: week seven, so we can still get lucky here. We'll
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  Speaker 1: bring it back to you first. What's going on, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I love these two game Monday Night slates. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: been pretty close to the last couple, so hoping to
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  Speaker 2: get to the finish line here tonight. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: Week seven main slate pretty interesting. I mean, I know
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  Speaker 2: you don't like talking about your play all that much,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean i'd say at one point probably probably
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  Speaker 2: favored I'd say, to win one hundred dollars millie, at
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  Speaker 2: least the coin flip did to win. And I know
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  Speaker 2: you love the coin flips, and I mean at the worst,
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  Speaker 2: probably a coin flip to win the one hundred dollars million.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just had a phenomenal team that was just
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  Speaker 2: working its way up the leader board, and I'd say,
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  Speaker 2: like complete stall at the end, like complete, like worse
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  Speaker 2: than I don't even know how it's possible, how quickly
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  Speaker 2: this team just hit the brakes because had the right games,
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  Speaker 2: had the right game scripts, and it didn't go your way.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if obviously, if you want to elaborate on
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  Speaker 2: it more, you can, but a hell of a team,
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  Speaker 2: good run and it's coming soon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the coin flip one's good. I have a new
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  Speaker 1: term I coined with Naids on the takedown breakdown stilted
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  Speaker 1: when you were ill tilted the next day, which is
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  Speaker 1: very rare for me. I am definitely nobody cares to
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  Speaker 1: work harder. Move on, guy, but only human. So certainly
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  Speaker 1: had some you know emotions surrounding that. Not sad ones
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  Speaker 1: like you would think, more angry, but just annoyed with
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  Speaker 1: the runout. Like you said, it was a perfect spot,
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  Speaker 1: perfect runout. Couldn't even just get the live final seat
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  Speaker 1: to join some of my guys down in Nashville. But
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  Speaker 1: we'll keep working away. It's a new day title, Bring
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  Speaker 1: you in man, crazy slate yesterday. Obviously, all the injuries
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  Speaker 1: we finally got one of those where it's like the
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  Speaker 1: perfect lineup is guys that nobody played, but all had
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  Speaker 1: good games. So what was your thoughts on the slate,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll dive into the two gamer.
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  Speaker 3: Never wearing a backwards ever again on the show. That
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  Speaker 3: was the worst main slate of all time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like I'm like a point out from
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  Speaker 3: like hitting all cash games with Jaden Daniels with Juju.
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  Speaker 3: It just was on and on. I mean it was brutal.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't as brutal as your stuff, Tamba. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I got dusted, lost a lot of money in my
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  Speaker 3: pocket's a little lighter, but hey, no better day to
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  Speaker 3: get it back than two games because we have two showdowns,
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  Speaker 3: two games Fandeliz good prizes, so yeah, and pretty actually
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  Speaker 3: one really good football game, I mean your Ravens and
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  Speaker 3: the Buccaneers. That actually be an awesome game at fifty.
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  Speaker 3: We know where most people are going on a two
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  Speaker 3: games slay too. They want to play that game. If
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  Speaker 3: you want to get different. We have a one point
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  Speaker 3: spread in Arizona some options there as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: read ready to get some back today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a good slay too. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a nice thing about DFS. You always do a good
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  Speaker 1: job title of putting things into perspective. Somebody's always got
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  Speaker 1: it worse, somebody's always got it better. Live within your means,
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  Speaker 1: play your stuff, be happy and be thankful. We get
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  Speaker 1: to come back do it all again today. Thanks to
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  Speaker 1: you out there for always supporting, appreciated. The Discord was
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  Speaker 1: all behind me yesterday rooting me in, trying to get
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  Speaker 1: me home. So that was awesome. But yeah, hit the
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  Speaker 1: you haven't already. We are going to bring up the
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  Speaker 1: Stone to break down this two gamer. We got NBA
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  Speaker 1: coming back tomorrow. The nation has got you covered. We
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  Speaker 1: got the Stone coming up brand new this year. Our
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  Speaker 1: guy Rio's heading it up. He's got everything under control.
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  Speaker 1: Got some new help with our guy BJ shipping it
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  Speaker 1: into the MLB streets, doing the MLB showdown for the
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  Speaker 1: World Series. He'll be jump over NBA title, getting in
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  Speaker 1: there with the shows, hosting the cash games, all that
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  Speaker 1: and more on a guy Hamwich on the FanDuel side,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody else filling in here. Their naids might even
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  Speaker 1: pop into the mix. Whop myself, etc. So should be
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  Speaker 1: a good NBA season starting tomorrow. But we're here to
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  Speaker 1: talk NFL. Go collect Philly fanom bad as dizz a Line,
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  Speaker 1: I Naids himself, tweezy always in the boose. Sean Sullivan,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to the nation. Saw you get back in
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  Speaker 1: there today. Shout out to Uncle Nick Beatle Bain, my
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  Speaker 1: guy Kenny, lots of good dudes and good people men
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  Speaker 1: and women both in the chat, and then my guy
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  Speaker 1: just in sports. Yeah, let's chop it up again. That
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  Speaker 1: was another thing. By the way, no no more complaints
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  Speaker 1: after this, I promise insult injury. I did not watch
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  Speaker 1: the sundayight football game, made my teams, went to bed,
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  Speaker 1: woke up at two thirty in the morning to check
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  Speaker 1: my phone. Seventeenth place with a three way chop in Showdown,
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  Speaker 1: first place, sixteen way chop. Yes, the third time this
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  Speaker 1: season I've had the second best team in Showdown for
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  Speaker 1: almost six figures. Last night would have been a big one,
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  Speaker 1: but I digress.
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  Speaker 2: One point not related to like dfasters at the gym
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  Speaker 2: uh and I was watching on TV and they were
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  Speaker 2: talking about Aaron Rodgers and whether or not he's dust
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to get titles official thoughts on that,
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  Speaker 2: because it does not look good with your boy even
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  Speaker 2: you know, with with DeVante. What what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I mean what.
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  Speaker 3: I was with Tamblea too, I fall asleep.
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  Speaker 2: I think like actually, for some reason, for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: I ass watched it, like I stayed up and watched it. Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, from everything I've heard from everything I was watching, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it looks like he is he's pretty like three balls
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  Speaker 3: like batted down.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just uncary. I mean it might just be
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  Speaker 2: over for him. Yeah, it's it hasn't looked good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw the Garrett Wilson, like the interception when
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  Speaker 3: one hit his.
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  Speaker 2: Chest, and yeah, that's not you can do there.
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  Speaker 3: Other than that though, Yeah, there's Grease Hall, DeVante Adams,
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  Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson. You can't have any and a good defense. Yeah, yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: So there's no there. I don't know how good their
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  Speaker 3: defense is, but I mean it's supposed to be good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he's probably making a little more
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  Speaker 3: difficult for him with the turnovers and whatnot. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's hasn't been good for your boy there, Father Father
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  Speaker 3: times undefeated.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Man, I can I can attest to that.
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  Speaker 1: What about Lebron James speaking NBA back tomorrow. Lebron is
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  Speaker 1: the one that just seems to keep on rolling. I
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  Speaker 1: just got a thing about Lebron James and Miles Garrett
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  Speaker 1: calls out those who booed Deshaun Watson's injury yesterday. So
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  Speaker 1: the good thing.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing with Lebron a he can spend all
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  Speaker 3: the money in the world on his body, but he
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  Speaker 3: also during the regular season plays fifty percent on defense
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  Speaker 3: and damn near fifty percent on offense until it mattered,
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  Speaker 3: which props. Dam It's what's best for the team's body.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the thing you take care of your body,
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  Speaker 2: you can extend things.
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  Speaker 1: Bring bring back Cobing, bring back Eddie Lacey, the mix.
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  Speaker 2: Do it. Cob could definitely do it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Mercedes Lewis.
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  Speaker 2: You have all of his boys boys back, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna dive in. We're gonna go to the Stone.
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  Speaker 1: on DraftKings, so the later game. We'll talk about that
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  Speaker 1: more when we get there. NBA, like I mentioned, all
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, I mean World Series now almost there for
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  Speaker 1: the MLB rounding out the other series. But still it's
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna start on the stone and who give me
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme overview before we get into this, because
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  Speaker 1: two games title mentioned it. The Ravens at the Buccaneers
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  Speaker 1: super excited for that game. Could be you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the most popular and solid back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. But the second game is not bad either,
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  Speaker 1: So talk to us about these ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the big total in that first one
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  Speaker 2: right around what fifty and a half for fifty one,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people are going to want to
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  Speaker 2: go there. I mean two quarterbacks that have played really
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  Speaker 2: well all season. Obviously Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield has
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  Speaker 2: been a fantasy stud essentially at the quarterback position this year.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to want to go
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  Speaker 2: to this game outside of the Bucks running backs, because
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  Speaker 2: it's never good when a team comes out and says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're we're riding the hot hand with three dudes, which
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  Speaker 2: will be interesting for the slate, which we'll we'll talk through,
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  Speaker 2: But like Goblin's going to be very popular, Evans, Zay Flowers,
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  Speaker 2: Derrek Henry, Everyone's going to come to this game. I
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  Speaker 2: think the interesting plays. You know, you can take a
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  Speaker 2: look at some of these Cardinals guys we'll talk about,
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  Speaker 2: like Marvin Harrison and even maybe like a Trey McBride.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll go through it all, but like
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers have been a disaster for DFS purposes, outside
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  Speaker 2: of Dobbins. Dobbins, I'm guessing I haven't really looked that deep.
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  Speaker 2: The highest Stone guy on the slate, I'd assume got
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  Speaker 2: like twenty five was twenty five carries or something last game,
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  Speaker 2: so he'll be very popular. But the rest of this
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  Speaker 2: game I'm curious to see when we break it down. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty open in terms of what I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 2: on the slate. And again that's why I really like
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  Speaker 2: doing these shows, because come in with the open mind
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  Speaker 2: and kind of change some perceived notions that I may have.
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  Speaker 2: And Yeah, excited to break it all down. And but
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  Speaker 2: again that first game is gonna be the one that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people go to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's, you know, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that I was going to talk about too. I'll
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  Speaker 1: c you do you title for the same thoughts, just
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: because the chat Stalkoma and I think one sec I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring you back up later, Billy. But the Philly fanom
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at the site, a Zy stacks to the moon.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's the opposite man, that's the defense versus the position.
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  Speaker 1: You can also see it her on the stone. The
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  Speaker 1: ranks for Arizona very bad. It would be Charger Stacks
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  Speaker 1: to the moon, which will be the lowest stone quarterback
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  Speaker 1: on the slate, justin Herbert. When you've got Baker Lamar
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  Speaker 1: in that first game, and even if people are getting
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  Speaker 1: outside of that, it's gonna be Kyler Murray. So title,
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you. Just your grand scheme overview
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  Speaker 1: on these two games, any two game strategy, anything you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about when it comes to that and.
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  Speaker 3: This late specific, it's the running back room that stands
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  Speaker 3: out the most because four teams usually four starting running backs.
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  Speaker 3: But as who mentioned, it's not great when a team
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  Speaker 3: comes out and says all three running backs will get
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  Speaker 3: a series early on, or at least touches early on,
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  Speaker 3: and then ride the hot hand. But you can flip
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  Speaker 3: it where that could be great for Milli maker type
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  Speaker 3: stuff on a two games late because no one's gonna
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  Speaker 3: not nobody. You can see a projected ownership. We might
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  Speaker 3: even be hot on some of these guys. It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be hard to pick which one you feel comfortable with,
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  Speaker 3: which will lead JK. Dobbins being very very popular, Derrick
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  Speaker 3: Henry being popular, James Connor being very very popular. If
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  Speaker 3: you don't play like if you don't play Dobbins and
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  Speaker 3: Connor at all in the lineup, you play Henry and
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  Speaker 3: pick another guy that'll make you different right away. I
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  Speaker 3: do think the stacket Lamar Baker will be the highest
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  Speaker 3: owned stacks. People are gonna want to go to that game.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say Charger stuff individual pieces outside of
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  Speaker 3: Herbert are getting a good bit of ownership because a
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  Speaker 3: we play a salary based game, they're really cheap. Dobbins
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  Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, work course back, I will say v Doll.
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  Speaker 3: I do expect the rookie to be mixed in a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. Had a nice catch touchdown catch on the
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  Speaker 3: sideline last week. Probably will be the number two throughout
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  Speaker 3: the throughout the year, so don't mind if you want
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  Speaker 3: to take shots on him. You get leverage. But it's
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  Speaker 3: mainly the Chargers receivers and even Disley as a punt
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  Speaker 3: tight end because they're without Quinton Johnston, which I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's been okay this year, but he runs a lot
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  Speaker 3: of routes on the field. Him being out opens up
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  Speaker 3: semi fioco wide receiver three for very cheap. Lad mccacky
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  Speaker 3: will be one of the most popular plays on the slate.
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  Speaker 3: Solid target share, Herbert's number one doesn't break the bank,
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  Speaker 3: and Johnshuall Palmer as well. So if you want to
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  Speaker 3: play Lamar, if you want to play Derrick, Henry, Zay Flowers,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera, you need some value. And I do think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people go to the Chargers for value.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, initial thoughts is people want game one and
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  Speaker 3: then Chargers side. So it feels like the Cardinals are
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  Speaker 3: the most low ish owned stuff like Wilson, Harris Doors,
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Nick Bride will get some, Kyler will get some, but
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  Speaker 3: maybe the receivers on the cards. I think I'll get
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  Speaker 3: overlooked a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I threw this up there. All you simbros think
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  Speaker 1: I don't do both. I'm all around the streets. I
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  Speaker 1: know what's going on. Sim he faoco. He's showing up everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: You guys think you got your sneaky play. People will
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  Speaker 1: be on that with you. Don't worry. He's three K.
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  Speaker 1: He opens up a lot. I could see it there.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how the slate goes otherwise. But Philly Fantom
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  Speaker 1: was just talking about earlier, like we have the DVP
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  Speaker 1: rankings over at the site too. All the Arizona stuff
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  Speaker 1: is obviously very bad. So the challenge I think people
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  Speaker 1: have and Hoop, I'll kick it back to you to
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  Speaker 1: start with this first game Ravens Bucks. But before we do,
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  Speaker 1: just saying, with everything you heard on the second game
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  Speaker 1: now and seeing that stuff, it's just I think because
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  Speaker 1: people find it harder to stack the chargers side, even
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  Speaker 1: though they know, you know what you would do Herbert
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  Speaker 1: with two people, it's just you know who's it going
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  Speaker 1: to be with, And I think people are just more
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  Speaker 1: happy to play the running backs on both sides of
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  Speaker 1: that game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just to the overarching point here with
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  Speaker 2: like the quarterback position, then I'll get into I'll get
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  Speaker 2: into the that game specifically, Like the Justin Herbert thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be like the lowest own quarterback, but
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  Speaker 2: he's still getting a decent chunk of ownership. Like he's
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  Speaker 2: still getting probably fifteen to twenty percent, probably fifteen to
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  Speaker 2: eighteen percent somewhere somewhere in that range when it's all
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  Speaker 2: said and done. So like if you take a stance
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  Speaker 2: against Justin Herbert and say you're just like fading them
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  Speaker 2: and that's the right move, Like you're like the whole
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  Speaker 2: goal is eliminating eliminating potential teams to compete with you,
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  Speaker 2: And if Justin Herbert teams are dead, like you're eliminating
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  Speaker 2: like fifteen to eighteen percent of the field and just
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  Speaker 2: looking at Justin Herbert's fantasy points. So this is definitely
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  Speaker 2: one of the better spots I would say for him.
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  Speaker 2: But the dude has not had more than thirteen point
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  Speaker 2: six eight drafting points this season ten thirteen, nine, eleven thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: Like that ain't doing it on thisike. Could this be
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  Speaker 2: the game where Herbert goes off? Sure? Maybe, but like
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  Speaker 2: they don't want Herbert to go off in games they
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  Speaker 2: don't want him. They want to win games twenty to
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  Speaker 2: seventeen or seventeen to fourteen, and they want Dobbins to
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  Speaker 2: have you know, they want the running backs to get
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  Speaker 2: thirty touches thirty carries. So I know people will make
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  Speaker 2: the case that Herbert's going to be the lowest downed
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  Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, he's the guy I'm considering like
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  Speaker 2: not playing Herbert. If you guys want to touch on that,
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  Speaker 2: if you have anything to add to that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think it's good you talk about all time.
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  Speaker 1: That could be the rake, right just because if he
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  Speaker 1: is fifteen percent. I mean, if everyone's playing them, you
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  Speaker 1: think those are all dead that how do you get
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  Speaker 1: leverage on the guys you do want leverage on get
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  Speaker 1: overweight and that's the way to do it. So I
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  Speaker 1: got no problem with that. I think you know, title
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  Speaker 1: already touched on the running back rooms being interesting and
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  Speaker 1: this is definitely a conversation as well, like the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: just not giving it up against the run the a
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: rating you see right there on the stone, but the
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: f against the pass. I think the Bucks know that.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I don't see any reason. Obviously there's going to be running.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: They want to try and keep Lamar off the field.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: It's are they going to be the first team to
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: figure it out and find their way through that rush defense.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know that's the difference.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very interesting because that's the position that we
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: talked about where the Bucks said they're going to use
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: all three guys hotthand like, that's not what you want. Now,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: it's a two game slate, so you might have to
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: consider something if it was a full slate, like these
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: guys are probably like zero percent own every single one
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: of these running backs. If we're talking to ten games, slate,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: even like a five game slate, like you're not even
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: going to consider any of those running backs. But it's
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a two games slate, so you gotta kind of look
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: at it. I mean, if you are. I mean, I
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: guess they're all kind of like pass catchers, so it is,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: it is difficult. I am kind of surprised despite that
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: talk that they're still showing up with some ownership, Like
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you know, Rashad White, we're showing twenty percent Bucky sixteen.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: We don't have the other dudes not on there. I mean, Con.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Tucker's not up here yet. But a couple of notes
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: on that. Just one is, you know, this is the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: mid version I didn't want. So one thing, we're showing
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: it off just to show you guys, what about why
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it's the best tool, But no optimals for any one
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: on leaving that out hoop, if you pull it up
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: or title on your side, you'll be able to see it,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: but for the people, they won't. And then there is
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: just huge ownership going to Dobbins, James Connor, Derrek Henry.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Obviously they're eating aty of it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean those guys are still going to
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: get some sort of ownership in like a trio essentially,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: which is somewhat interesting, But this is the game everyone
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: wants to go to Ravens Bucks, There's no doubt about it.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: The higher total and more, I'd say, know in offenses,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: like we know what these offenses are all about, Like
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: the cardinal stuff. It's a little hard to predict that
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: time chargers very difficult to predict. On the Raven side,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: you know, it's you know, Lamar's Zay Flowers coming off
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: a massive game, and then Mark Andrews finally got something
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: going for the first time all season where he had
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: what was it like, it wasn't anything huge, but it
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: was I mean he was doing absolutely nothing. Would he
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: get three for sixty six and a touchdown? The week
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: before that was four for fifty five? Like are they
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: kind of re establish seeing that connection a little bit?
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: So you can throw in Bateman as well, cheap wide
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: receiver at forty three, Derrick Henry at ak Like the
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Raven side, you know, you know what, you know what
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: you're getting. I'm sure people will ask, oh, can you
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: play Lamar with Derrick Henry? Like it's a two game slate.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be like not many scenarios where I say
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: you can't do that. You can basically do just about
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: anything on a two game slate, leaving salary odd pairings
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: quarterback with running back. Like I talked about, you can
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: do a variety of things and get away with it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: We've seen weird lineups when these two games slates, so
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you don't need to, you know, come up with all
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: these rules and exclusions and things like that. I mean
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of things are are open and available for
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: this two game slate. On the buck side, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has been i'd say borderline awesome. I mean
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: really good for fantasy at least thirty one, twenty three,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: thirty two, one stinker against Denver twenty and then thirty.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I mean he might be got to be top five
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: in terms of DFS quarterbacks this season. Great connection with Godwin,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: great connection with Evans, great connection with Outen. The one
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: interesting play though, I think, is Sterling Shepherd. It appears
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: that he may be taken over like that wide receiver
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: three spot with McMillan, and McMillan was a guy early on.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I know McMillan got hurt, but even last last game
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: where McMillan was in. I think it was like only
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: eighteen routes that he ran and Sterling Shepherd was in
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: there for like seventy five percent of the snap, So
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: it seems like it could be Shepherd over McMillan. I mean,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: if you're playing the one to fifty, you know, big contest.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Like I don't hate including McMillan, but it appears Shepherd's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the guy and he's only coming in. We're showing like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: six percent, so wide receiver three on the team, they're
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: going probably gonna have to pass it, like I said,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, Tamba, the Ravens very good
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: against the run, very bad against the past. Buccaneer are
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: way more efficient when they're passing the football. So a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: lot of stuff just lines up I think perfectly for
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: this game to be to be the game. Now, all
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the ownership is following as well. I mean, in that
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: second game, everyone wants to go to the running backs,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: they want to go to Dobbins, they want to go
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to Connor, and then this lab mcconkee dude h is
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: coming in with with with high ownership as well. But
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: this is a game that everyone wants to go to,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: so you know, you can always do weird things over
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: stack at a ton Like let's let's say you think
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: that the Chargers dominate and it's all Dobbins. Maybe play
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Dobbins and Chargers defense and then just load up on
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: this game, get as many pieces as you possibly can.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, kind of kind of where I'm at now,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play all these guys to be honest, like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I am gonna I'm gonna, Yes, the field's gonna be
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: heavy on this game. I'm gonna be heavier than the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: field on this game when it's all said and done.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I forgot too. With the two gamers, we
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: typically go position by position, So maybe I'll flip at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the title. He's been quiet for a minute. I haven't
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: let him jump into much.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe easier, let's let's just go when title goes. Let's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: just start with the quarterbacks that is actually.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Quarterbacks, and then all finish out thoughts on the Then
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: if you have more, you can adham. If not, go
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to running back. That's the easiest way. Plus it helps
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: apply it to the Showdown slate as well. If you're
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: playing Showdown, to know sort of what you're doing there.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So Title, go ahead, take us through the quarterbacks, just
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: how you're seeing it. We already talked a little about
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the Justin Herbert stuff. Go ahead, looking at.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I got a question to throw it back before I do.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. We have Kyler projected for
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: about five percent higher owned. How do you think that
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: comes in pretty similar? Do you think Kyler's higher owned?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Because with how good Baker's been this year in that total, like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I think it feels to me like why wouldn't people
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: go Baker, Godwin, Evans, Sterling, et cetera. And that's important
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: for me because if Baker's number three, I love Baker.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: If Kyler is a decent bit lower owned than Baker
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and he's the number three quarterback, I have a lot
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of interest in Kyler for his upside. So any thoughts
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: on the ownership.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'll take that because I just I was interested in
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that as well, so ideas and I just kind of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: looked around just to see if this was like an
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: outlier thing. But a lot of a lot of sites
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: have the same thing where it's Kyler over Baker, and
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I like to see that. I actually really really like
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to see that because I like the Baker stuff, like
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: way way more and if he's going to be even
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: a little bit lower, it's easier to gain some leverage.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: So I hope that does hold true at the end
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: of the day. I personally think it probably ends up
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: being pretty similar, though, Yeah, all the.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: The other side of it, which is I'm always pretty
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: straight up and it's going to flip one hundred percent,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be that way, and we'll get
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: our ownership dialed in the closer we get to lock.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I know. It's like what the industry is doing. The
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: industry is it's tough. It's really tough in these ownership
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: streets for NFL, and it has been since SIMS came
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: into play, and people are able to push the needle
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: with that and thinking that that is the be all,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: end all, so they have to go that route. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I just I've built a ton early on. I've used
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: optimizers this morning, looked at ours, trying to get you
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a feel for what the industry's up to. And I
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: think for sure Baker's going to come in higher owned
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: than Kyler Murray. It's no question. I think it'll be
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: five percent or more higher own when it's all said
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and done too. It's just way easier to build and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: when people already This is what makes no sense to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now with the ownership, is if
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Godwin's gonna be fifty five Evans deep, I believe those
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I believe thirty percent oughten all that. People just don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: leave that the other way. And I know everyone thinks
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna be Lamar and those guys, it's not.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: People are gonna put Baker in there as well, So
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: go ahead, title, Yeah, no.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: That happened to hear deck And I think your last
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: point because of the Godwin Evans Kate Otton is a
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: very solid price tight end like McBride's great, but he's
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: expensive and with the addition of Zay Jones coming back
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: this week, it makes like the Greg George z Jones
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: stuff a little dicey. Whereas so you have Harrison Michael Wilson, Sure,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harris is expensive and there's only limited running backs
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: if you're not playing the Tampa guys Henry Dobbins and
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: James Connor, where you're spending a little bit there, So
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: it feels a little more uncomfortable I think for people
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to go Kyler's stuff. The thing is Tyler always has
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: eighty plus rushing upside on the ground, could run one in,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: So you can Kyler Minni stack with Michael Wilson, Minnie
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Stackham with Trey McBride. If you do that and you
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: don't play any James Connor, of course, there's like hoopsaid,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: very little rules I would make on a two games late,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you can pretty much do anything. But if you want
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: to all the leverage James Connor, how does he bust today?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray does everything. Whether he scores on the ground,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: he throws him in. James Connor over fifty percent owned.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Figure out two other running backs. Maybe you just go
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Henry Dobbins there and get a lot of leverards. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna be playing the Kyler stuff. He has a
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: lot of upside. You see, the matchup isn't great, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: as the third highest quarterback on the late him, Marvin Harrison, Wilson,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: McBride easy pass catchers there and again could just skinny
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: stack because of his rushing upside. Lamar, I don't have
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: really too much to add. Like I see people in discord,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: if I'm playing twenty, do I lock them? Do I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: just full fade them? You don't need to do either,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: like each individual lineup can tell a story. If I
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: had to pick one fadom or lock them, I'm probably
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: fading them. I find a pick out, take a shot
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: that Baker, Kyler, and Herbert one of those three get
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: there at decent bit lower ownership. But I like Lamar
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: a lot because Andrew's likely right there. Those two alone,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: you have to make a decision. You can play both.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I guess I don't personally love it. I prefer likely
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: we'll get there when I get to tight end for
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the snap share. But you have those two decisions. You
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: have Zay, you have Bateman, you have Aglar. You can
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: throw Justice Hill and Lamar step. You can skinny stack
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Lamar because of his rushing upside, like we talked about,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: so Lamar and Kyler it's fun. Whereas Baker you play
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: him and I like him. But what everyone's gonna play
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: at least two of Godwin's evans Otan and Sterling Shepherd.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: It feels like Sterling Shepherd when Hoops said, very good
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: point of get the receiver, he is the number three.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: He stepped over McMillan. But almost everyone feels like they
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: will go at least Godwin Evans probably throw Aton because
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: it's so cheap. And then you're playing two v two s,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: three v threes off of Baker Mayfield and the last
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: guy gets to Herbert, so Baker's three. It's Lamar and
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Kyler for sure, and the Herbert stuff. Yeah, I'm kind
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: of torn. I can totally see the like, maybe it's
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Will Levis in the back of my head burying me
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: in a two games slay, like why did I just
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: burn money with this guy? But when it works, we
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: saw like de Vito last year on the two game winner,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: who's absolutely cheeks. Herbert's not cheeks. They could throw the
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: ball a little. They threw it a decent amount last
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: week before they got up a lot. And his pass
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: catchers are popular and they're cheap, like lat Nikkocky is
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: gonna be one of the highest own receivers. Joshua Palmer's
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: now wide receiver too, without Quinton Johnston Semi Fioco, like
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you said, he's gonna get ownership at three K and
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: three receiver sets. Will Disley, there's no Hayden Hurst a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: very cheap pun tight end. So all of the individual
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: pieces will get ownership, but people aren't really going to court,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that fifteen percent, so people will be
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think I'm gonna be playing
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: and probably donating money with Herbert today as well. But
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna go a lot of people like that first game.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: That second game, just going more so that game than
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the first make you way way different if I do
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: go the first game, I like overstacking, and I think
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: there's another slate where you can leave two K on
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: the slate and salary. I think it is pretty soft
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that way. Drop Lad McCaughey to Fioco. Maybe there's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: better example there, Marvin Harrison down to Michael Wilson, something
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: like that. So I rank them Tyler and Lamar gap Baker, Herbert,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And again I'm a little worried about I guess I'll
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: throw to you on this, Tam. Are you a little
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: worried about how to play getting different within the Baker
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: stuff because there only feels so many ways.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: To go with it?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Not really, because I already got it to all
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: l out now that you're flipping it, because I think
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that's perfect way you put it. I think what everyone's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: doing with this game is they are going to it
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like we know that's the obvious. Got to look to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the next level. Okay. In the next level is they're
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: overstacking it. Okay, what's that look like Baker, Godwin, Evans,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Aughton one of Zay. Oh I'm being different because I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: playing Bateman instead of Zay. Now if you're playing Bateman
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: instead of Zay and leaving all that money, yeah, now
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you're a little bit different. But I think the bigger
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: way when I overstack this game, I think you overstack
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a side. So I think I'm gonna go like Baker, Godwin, Evans, Shepherd,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Aughton and the Tampa Bay defense and then maybe fill
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: in some pieces from the other game no Ravens at
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: all or one and then the other way you can
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: flip it is like a Lamar with two tight ends.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: You could play Andrews An likely you could play Lamar,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Zay Bateman Agalore and pick a tight end and pick
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: one of you know, Mike Evans or Aughton as a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: second tight end, and then fill in the expensive pieces
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: from the other game, like you're JK. Dobbins with a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison secondary stack. So while I'm overstacking the first
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: game in many spots, it's how you overstack it. It's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not necessarily the way that everybody else is doing it,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: because I think that makes the most sense just based
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: on the slate what we have at hand. By the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: way to the chat, you gotta get it, Morse guy,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you're on stat music. Two of those l's go to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Flacko my friends. It's twenty two and one back in
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: October twenty eighteen. They try and give him these two
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: l's where one game, I think he literally played a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: snap after they didn't get the job done, so they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: put him into give him some gear. But it's twenty
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: two to one against NFC teams. I expect Lamar to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: be involved, and you know, there's tons of different ways
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you can play him. The chat was talking earlier about naked.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I prefer on two game slates to get him in
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: there with people because I want to get all of it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But easily could just play him with one. You can
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: go Lamar with just Zay and then fill it out
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: with Chargers, Cardinals pieces and some Tampa guys that fit in.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So I like that. The other thing is someone said
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: it too, and I was gonna bring that up. Herbert
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: has been horrible and I'm not giving him any credit.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: This is all to do with it being a two
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: game slate, like literally anything could happen. So at hoops
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: point was a great one earlier. I love that call.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: If you just want to be out on the guy,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's definitely a way to get leverage. If he's not
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the guy. It's almost like the rake was paid, et cetera,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: et cetera, but he really hasn't got the good matchups
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and so finally gets a good one. I don't know
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: if that's gonna mean anything, but in Arizona in the Dome,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: lots of opportunity and easy to stack and then fill
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in really expensive pieces around it. Think about this too.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Baker lineups more likely with Derrick Henry, not as many
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Lamar with Henry's because they do typically eat each other's lunch. Sorry,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And so setting it up in a little bit of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a different way would be to go to that like
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you don't have to go crazy, but just Herbert with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a couple guys and then get like you're Derrick Henry
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Harrison Junior in for the Cardinals. You can get some
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: more expensive guys that aren't Godwin Evan Zay. The three
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: guys that we know are just gonna be off the chart,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's not Maconki who many are going to.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a you know, a Herbert Palmer Disley, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: then fill it out with all the expensive pieces that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: nobody's going to, not just the Tampa guys that everyone
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is going to. So again, gifferent ways to play it,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: using different quarterbacks. But I certainly think it makes the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: slate interesting and the fact that the second game seems
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: much lesser own seems perfect.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Just one question on the Herbert stuff. Do you guys
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: believe the seventeen percent number? You think it's going to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be in that range.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Be like the twelve thirteen, like people really just don't
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: want to get buried.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, but I mean, what percent do
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you play? So let's say it is I don't know
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: what we're just gonna let's just use the seventeen number.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, in order to make a move on Herbert,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and you got to play them probably at least twenty
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: five percent. So it's like at the seventeen percent number,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: for me personally, it's hard to really come up with
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: a game plan to make a move on Herbert. So
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: like at seventeen percent, I think it's just I think
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the better move if you don't love them is just
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: to ex's ass out, which I don't know if I'm
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: doing it yet, but if he was like closer to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the ten percent number, I'd probably have interested in playing him.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: But if it remains in the opper tines, like you're
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: sacrificing shares of Lamar, Baker, and Kyler to play Herbert,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that's the point I'm hoping for.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And Hew'll handle it are pretty much the same. I'm
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: hoping he's actually like ten to twelve because just the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: way it looks like I said, I definitely think Baker's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: getting more. I don't really necessarily think Lamar is budging
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: as much as even if Lamar went up some I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: think that leads to more people being on that game
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and some of those Lamar lineups turning into Baker to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: get an extra upgrade into the lineup. But I'll say
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: it like I always saying, I'll use twelve as the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: number if I can get Herbert at twelve percent. It's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like you said, in order to make a move, I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: make moves in different ways, and just so people know
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: out there, like it's not necessarily I don't know if
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it's right, it's right to me, and it's worked for me.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But if there's one hundred thousand lineups in the tournament
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: and twelve thousand of them are justin Herbert lineups, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: can play twelve percent justin Herbert, I'll do it. I'll
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: play ten percent because I think that I think those
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: twelve thousand lineups, probably five to six thousand of them,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: are gonna be horrible builds. They're gonna max out salary,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: They're gonna use all the other They're gonna use him
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to get Maconkey, who's the most popular, pairing with him,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and then use all the other guys in the exact
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: same lineup. Those are all bad lineups, especially in a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: two game slate with five hundred camp top. So I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: can go ten percent Herbert and the field is probably
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: really five or six percent good lineups. I have leverage
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: on good lineups, and I still get away with it
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and keep a significant chunk of my ownership at quarterback
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: on Lamar Baker and some on Kyler. But I agree
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: with you who if it's just that's my way of
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: framing it up.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Everything. Yeah, everyone does it. You know, they're a way
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that that works for sure. But for me, like if
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the move and play Herbert like I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: want to be overweight on them, and like at seventeen,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if I can. I just don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: see myself getting there.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. And obviously both have found plenty
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of success playing in different ways. And I think that's
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the beauty of the game what I was talking about.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Regardless how good or bad your day goes, we always
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: get another slate and we get to fight after the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: same thing. Again. This is a good one for that reason.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely agree.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: All right, take us into the running backs, man, what
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: are you doing with this spot? Talked about it earlier,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: but Henry Dobbins Connor people just look scared of the
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay thing. There is going to be some ownership,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of on this slate limited versus some
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of the other positions. Like you can get an Agalore
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: at wide receiver with almost no ownership, But to get
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like a twelve or fifteen percent Bucky Irving or somewhere
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: in that range, it almost feels like that's your leverage
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: on this at the running back position, at least I
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: should say it that way.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It's the toughest I guess, toughest or easiest position. I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: guess depending on what you do. I mean, it's either
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the toughest position or the easiest position. Because if you
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: take the easy route, you can just get as much Dobbins,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Henry and Connor as you want and just move along
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and just potentially play those those three and then obviously
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you're doing something. You know, look to do different things
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and chalk your type lineups. You take the more complicated route.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It's bringing the Tampa Bay guys into the equation figuring
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: out what the hell is going to go on there.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Talked about it in the opening. Uh, you know, Sean
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Tucker looked really really good with the white out, Bucky
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Irving didn't look great, but he's looked good this season.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: And then is Rashaw White officially is he in for sure?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: The practice the latest practice report was but it seems like.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: It's well participate in Saturday, so he's probably gonna go too.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So these guys are still getting ownership, which is the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: interesting part. And I'll be curious to see if that
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: holds as well and curious to get your guys take
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: on that. But like Rashad White is showing twenty percent ownership,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Bucky Irving is showing sixteen percent ownership. That is what
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: is that thirty five percent ownership right there between two
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: guys that are definitely splitting with potentially a third guy
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: as well, who looked better than any of them probably
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: all season that Sean Tucker dude looked better than White
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: has looked all year. It looked better than Bucky Irving
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: has looked all year. So again, it's another situation for me.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: If Rashab White's coming in at twenty percent and Bucky
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Irving's coming in at sixteen, I might just get more
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: wide receivers in that range, so maybe more wide receiver
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: flex and then maybe just fade all those guys. So
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: something I'm looking at doing there is just being off
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: of them, especially with these big numbers like twenty percent
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: sixteen percent again, and curious to see if that does hold.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to get your guys to take on that.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: But it's a complicated situation, and I guess the other
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: guy that you could consider, especially if you're going heavy
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: game stacks are going very heavy on Ravens Bucks, is
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Justice Hill. I mean, there's game scripts where Justice Hill
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: gets a lot of work you need. The Ravens likely
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: playing from behind. So if you're building teams where you
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: think the Bucks win, Bucks playing with the lead, Justice
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Hill is a perfect guy to bring into the equation.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Andy's lower owned than those the Tampa Bay guys. So
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: for me personally, the fourth guy I probably bring into
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: the equation is probably Justice Hill before looking at Rashab
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: White or Bucky Irving. So it depends what you do here.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it could be the easiest position for
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: you to figure out tonight or a complicated position to
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: figure out, depending on how much of this Tampa Bay
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: stuff you want to get involved with.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call quite a bit. Title, I'll
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: flip it over to you. But like the even Henry
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and Hill, I mean, we're gonna talk with double stacks
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: at running back. Henry Hill's won later. I know people
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: already talking about Dobbins and Kamani Vidald. He's another guy
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that they've been mixing in and you could see that happen.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: But I guess take us into running back in your
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts on it, because it does look like it's pretty
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: heavy just those three guys, and then the secondary, you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: options become the Tampa Bay guys.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's rightfully so that it's that they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: the three main guys. And I think that's why I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: going to be playing some Herbert because I'm playing Derrick Henry,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I'm playing James Connor, I'm playing Dobbins. Justice Hill is
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: by far my fourth favorites. I mean, every week but
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: two he's had over a forty percent snapshare. One week
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: like Week four, they absolutely blow up the Bills. Didn't
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: need a much last week. In Week six, they had
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: the lead most of the game. That's the Commanders. Obviously.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: When they have the lead, Derek Henry will be out
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: there a lot more in games they're trailing. As we
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: saw Week one and week two, Justice Hill outsnapped Derrick Henry.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: So it's very easy whenether you're building the first game
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: or your game stack in it. If you all in
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: on the Buccaneers, you think Buccaneers jump out, you think
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: they win the game. You think Ray play from behind.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Justice Hill's a way better play if you're building it,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: like you think Ravens jump out, than to lead on
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. Pound the football there, then I'd have less.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I docked the pass catchers, I wouldn't play as much
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: just as Hill. I'd go Derrick Henry. Of course, you
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: can't go to like Derrick Henry and Justice Hill together,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: but man like, I feel like they both. I feel
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: like Derrick Henry has to get in the box early
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: and then Baker comes back and makes Justice Hill be
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: on the field more. I feel like you need a
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: lot to go right, and I'm with Hoopon I'm gonna
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: be playing a lot of wide receivers and tight ends
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: in the flex today. I'm not going to play too
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: many three running back teams because if you do, I
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: think it's very clear people are gonna go Henry Dobbins,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Connor Buccaneer stuff. I'm actually for Shan White. The dude
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: is not good like Bucky Irving's good. We just saw
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Sean Tucker be good. They've watched Rashaan White be bad
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: for over a year now. I'm out on him for sure.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I think unfortunately, if you have him in any basketball teams,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: that is gg's. I like Bucky the Sean Tucker stuff too.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: He looks so good. Bunky's my guy today. If I
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: had to pick one on the Buccaneers side, I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: thought he was better than Rashad White. Earlier in the year,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I kept saying he was finally gonna overtake out of nowhere.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Sean Tucker what I think. He was an undrafted rookie
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: free agent. He was there last year, didn't get any work,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: goes and has a career game. I guess maybe he
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: can do it again. Bucky's the guy that I'll be
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: playing a little bit. But I think they're all gonna
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: probably be overro because I'm just guessing. Everyone's guessing. You
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: guess wrong, You're absolutely dead now you can get paid
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: off in dividends if you are right. I will say
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I do think we're hot on the ownership, and I
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: could be wrong, but everyone will be guessing which one.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people will come back to.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: If I have ten teams, why even mess around and
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: try and pick one Buccaneers guy when I feel a
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: lot better with Connor Dobbins, Henry and rightfully so, so.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: If you have a strong lean into it, maybe I'll
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: just play Bucky X the other two so I can
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: at least get like fift twenty percent, and if he
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: does nothing, just hope that whole all them bust. I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: still underweight on the running back room, but you're really
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: guessing I don't have a strong lean. I'm just hoping
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: White stinks like he usually does, and Buck he's actually good,
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: So I'm leaning in that route. And then Vidal, I
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: don't know, man, what.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Are you doing with them?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: You're playing them? I know you are.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that's a better I mean, I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: feel better about that spot. To be honest, as much
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: as I'm gonna have Dobbins, it's just like a security
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: blanket to that. I think you could play both of
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: them with the defense there, Like, that's another way to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: get different in your Tampa Bay Raven stacks. If you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: want to be able to get different, play double running
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: back and the D from the Chargers game, and you
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: could still put a receiver against that. We literally just
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: saw it on a ten game slate yesterday, the millionaker
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: winner and the ten Dollars had the Cincinnati D versus
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: both in Joku and Elijah Moore on Cleveland, so it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: like it can happen. They still put up fifteen DST points.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: That's solid here on a two games slate, so I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: certainly interested in that. I think the Justice Hill thing
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: is the interesting one over there at forty eight hundred,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: quite to dip off Henry. Henry's been on a tear though,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: so in non Lamar lineups, I hope people talk about
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: in the chat we're playing no Ravens. Definitely don't love that.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'll have some overstack the Bucks side
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and leave Ravens off for the reason of what that
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: would do for you on a two game slate, But
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the majority of my lineup is we'll have Ravens and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: mixing them in, whether it's Lamar at quarterback, Derrick Henry,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Justice Hill, Ze Bateman the tight end, like there's just
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: somebody there and they're often just gonna move the ball
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: against Tampa. So definitely think this is a good spot.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: We talk about Lamar going up against these teams, but
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: at running back. The only other thing I really have
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to add is like the Buccaneers backfield has people so worried.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: That's you know, you got to embrace that. As bad
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: as the matchup is bad ball. That is, if you've
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: got if you have a portfolio to work with, it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: good to embrace it in something like this on a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: two game slate because it's because others don't want to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: touch it is sometimes why you should go there and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: try and find a way. So I don't have too
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: much else to add. The second games seems pretty clear
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: cut on that, the back and forth. But I think
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: you can put like Dobbins Connor against each other with
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: one of their defenses would just be another way to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: handle it, because again, it doesn't even matter like this,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: They're gonna get work on the ground. The defense doesn't
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: necessarily matter against that. So yeah, I don't have too
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: much else to add here, title anything else to go.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing, and it's throwing it back to quarterback.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: But I think it's a fair question. But also with
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: how DraftKings price quarterbacks, Hey, we don't even necessarily need
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: them to be Lamar's a k, Baker sixty eight, Kyler
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: sixty five, Herbert's a full one k less at fifty five.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I do like how DraftKings priced that. I don't know
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: the percent, but just look at what happened on yesterday's
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: ten game main Slate. I know there was injuries, et cetera.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Even without injuries, so many of those guys absolutely busted.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: It was really bad football. Why could not in a
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: two game slate, the.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: First game slate, and how other positions matter against it,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: more like what that can do for you at fifty
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: five hundred, is the only one even close? He's one
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: thousand less than the next closest. Here, here's one I'll
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: answer it. I would say there's a thirteen point seven
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: percent chance as of right now that we see Herbert
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: be on the winning lineup. That's that's what I would say.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: The numbers would say, you know, who knows how it
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: actually shakes out, But that's what, Like I said, I'm
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: comfortable coming in around that number below, because it's it's
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: not what's the title line is not how often you win,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it's how much you win when you are right, not
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: off you're right, how much you win you are right.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: He's probably not right, but it is literally the best
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: matchup he's seen. Everyone talks shit that day when it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: was Trevor Lawrence Day finally got a good matchup. Told
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you like, it's only if he's going to come through,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: it's going to be the spot. This is what we're saying.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It's a risk based off of that, but yeah, go ahead.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah I just went just because it carries on with
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: this conversation. So I just went through and ransom teams,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and I like what they did with the pricing. I'll say, like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: it's hard to get overweight on Lamar Jackson and Derrick
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Henry and Chris Godwin and my Evans. Like a lot
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: of times these slates they price them so poorly where
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you can just easily get way overweight on everyone. I
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: went through and built some teams. I think, based on
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: what I'm seeing here, there's a chance, and could be wrong,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that either Lamar Jackson or Derrick Henry kind of gets
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: squeezed a little bit, and I think it had I
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: think it might it could be Derrick Henry, because yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: we're showing fifty percent ownership on him, and I think
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that's where people will say, you know what I want, Lamar,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I'll just dip off of Derrick Henry. So based on this,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and yeah, you have some confidence in that statement as well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I think it. I think it has a chance to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: be Derick Henry because we know Gohad I was.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Gonna say that means Dobbins has to be like eighty five.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just after just after this, Like it's definitely like
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Dobbins has to be like so so so highly owned,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: like crazy highly owned. It just means they're their ownership,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: but you know they're projected. Their actual ownership.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Is, you know, lower than the projected ownership. We're beating
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: building teams and they can't get to as much.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Steam means we think it'll go up. Squeeze means you
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: think it'll go down with other stuff.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought so, I think it's I think
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: it's Derrick Henry. I think Derrick Henry. We're showing fifty.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Everyone around the industry kind of has fifty. I bet
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: it's probably forty.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Salesman Hoop jumped in the in the building for a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: minute and sold our guy Tweezy. He went from no
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Ravens to Okay, I'll get some Dereck Henry. Now I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: only want him, so Shadow Tweezy, Shadow Hoops. They're getting
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the sales pitch going. But yeah, that's how you should
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: be thinking about these slates. It's not often again, why
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: we're not sitting your hard stance like, oh, you got
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to take these three locks today and put them in.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: That's not what we do here, right, We're trying to
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: talk through the slate, how we see it playing out
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and look for our angle in against the field that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: we're up against. It's not about all the other stuff.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: It's all comes together under one bucket. And that's the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: key is how do we beat the field that we're
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: going up against. This is the stuff that we're thinking about.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: So title going back to you take us into the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: wide receiver position. We spend a lot of time at
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: running back, but wide receiver seems pretty cut and dry
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: for what people are doing. The majority are on that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: first game and as you know, besides Lad McConkey whatever,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: but even like a Marvin Harrison at twenty percent, that's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: nothing really compared to like fifty to sixty on these
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: other guys coming in one third the ownership of these
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay guys.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Looking at the stone, the three that stand out Marvin Harrison,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, and Rashad Bateman like I don't want to
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: mess with Aglar as much, or like James McMillan is
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: now wide receiver four. Now that Zay Jones is back,
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: how much is he gonna eat into Greg Dortch at
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: wide receiver three sets again, you can mix and match them.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: They'll be low owned Fioco wide receiver three on the
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Chargers getting ownership, Palmer's getting ownership lad as we see,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: so the guys that are all sub thirty percent that
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: are good players that are gonna be on the field
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: that can do something. Clearly, Bateman, Wilson and Harrison, two
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: of those guys are on the same team with what
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I believe to be the third highest own quarterback on
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: the slate and Kyler Murray, which is why I keep
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: coming back to some of this Cardinals stuff. But yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: so I'll just go team by team. Baltimore clearly he's
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: a great play, gonna get ownership. I think Batman's a
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: very strong play. Aglar I like him more with Lamar stuff.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I doubt I have too much naked Aglar stuff because
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: I do feel like if Aglar gets there, he's probably
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: catching a touchdown, and Lamar's probably with him if he's
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: throwing one to Aglar. So I like it more in
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Raven stuff, and I'm gonna be playing a bunch of Lamars,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: So that's how I'll play him. Tampa side, very very easy.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Godwin's been an absolute monster this year. We do have
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Godwin fifty six per Mike thirty nine, so it something
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: to look at, right there very similar price. Baker, Mike Evans,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Sterling Shepherd Baker, Mike Evans, Kadon leaving out god Win
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: in Baker stuff. That's a way to get different right there.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Obviously Godwin has been so good this year. Maybe they
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: focus on shutting down Godwin in the slot someone else
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: gets there going to the charter side. Yeah, it's the
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: three that we talked about out. They're getting ownership though
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: no Quinton Johnson, so McConkey probably the highest owned receiver
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: on the slate because of their price. Palmer slid into
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: wid receiver two sets without him, and then Fioco, which
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I do think Fioko's ownership we have fifteen percent catches
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Steam and I think that thirty six percent Palmer might
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: go down a little bit. So if I think it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: like twenty four percent Fioco twenty nine percent Palmer, which
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked because of the savings. I think
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Palmer is a very interesting play in that chargers receiving room.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: That again I think he gets squeezed a bit Cardinal stuff.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I talked about it. The addition of say Jones this
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: week does make the wide receiver three room a little Harry.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I feel confident Michael Wilson's receiver two has looked great.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: No one's playing Marvin Harrison because well not nobody of course,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: but relative to the slate, because they want to find
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: the extra couple hundred for Evans and Godwin Zay Flowers
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: is right there for a little cheaper projects better, and
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: you need to spend that running back because there's only
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: if you don't want to play Tampa stuff, so then
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: your price out of really playing the Harrison stuff. So
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I'll obviously eat into that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: What is the price on this slate for Trey Palmer
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: thirty two hundred So he practiced on Saturday, and it
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: looks like he could be coming back as well. To
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: muddy it up a little bit. I know you got
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd there for two hundred more, but that could
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: be obviously McMillan is still there too, But just to say,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I had agreed earlier with Hoop on like the Shepherd take,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and I just saw the Tray Palmer thing just to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: double check on it. So yeah, interesting for sure, another
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: guy that'd be like no ownership that could come back.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Thirty two hundred bucks. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, what
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: about this one, Hoop? I wanted to send this one
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: over to you. With Dobbin's ownership so high, you got
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to play the backup because Vegas is gonna have to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: pay a lot of money if Dobbin's hits.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's one way to go about it. Yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: just uh, he's gonna be very highly owned.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: But I don't think, Yeah, they have enough money. They
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: have enough money, they can pay.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Out a couple He'll be fine. Yeah.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's like not anything to do with DFS either, right,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Like obviously this guy said the cabal is on Vidal.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: You gotta get on him. They know about it, So
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But the big thing is you gotta
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: just know that that has no affiliation, Like you know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: if he's eighty five percent on the DFS because it's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a two game slate and the spot that he's in
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and the injuries and all that stuff. You can get
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: different a ton of different ways. It doesn't mean everyone
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: is jamming his over props at the sports book. So yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you can play Dobbins, no problem. It has nothing to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: do with Vegas on that one.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And this was a comment from a couple people,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: but Kenny had posted at first like it is crazy
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Ladd McConkie. Lad McConkie is going to be the highest
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: own wide receiver on a slate where we got Za Flowers,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Marvin Harrison Junior, and it is
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: going to be Lad McConkie. I don't hate like on
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: a team that doesn't even want to pass the ball either,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Like you got a team that doesn't want to pass
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: the ball and their wide receiver is between like sixty
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and seven eight percent on. So I don't hate an
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: underweight approach. It's just if you go and run an optimizer,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: McConkie's going to show up on every damn team that
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: you build, just every damn team. So I don't hate
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: going underweight on that.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Good, good call. And I actually want to comment on
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: something you just say because I think people should be
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: doing this and it's not necessarily Again, trust the projections.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: We have great projections, accuracy, solid everything, but it's set
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: up where like again, you still have to tell your
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: own story and your own thing. So instead of just
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: xing a guy, which is not what Whop said to do,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just putting this out there because I think a
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: lot of the chat is talking about this and thinking
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: about it, just dock his projection, like make make him
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: nine instead of thirteen point two and see what that
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: does for you. Now with shipdemizer, you can just say,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: screw this, I'm not taking my seventy percent that it's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: given me. Let me make my max exposure thirty five.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Cut that in half and I feel just fine. You're
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: still going to get the thirty five. Obviously, if it's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: trying to give you seventy, it's definitely giving you the
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: thirty five when you cap it. But I will say
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: that you know another way to do it is just
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to play around with it and again think about it.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: If you're fucking him, where is it going? It doesn't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: necessarily just have to go to Palmer. But I'm just
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: saying there's other things that you can do when you're
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: playing around with it. So I think, for sure, just
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: something to look at, but anything else there hoop and
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you can talk about other spots if you want to.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Uh no, not too much else. I mean I do
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the lad thing though, is it's definitely pretty interesting, or
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: you just cap it too, Like if you're running an
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: optimizer and you're getting seventy percent, which if you just
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: do a dry run and run it like I did.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I was getting ninety seven percent, lad, so it's going
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to come in at a very very high number. Let's
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: say you know he's what are we showing sixty seventy percent?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: And you want to take an underweight stance because you're
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: gonna if you're doing one fifty, you're gonna need them
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in some lineup. So to make things work, just cap
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: it at fifty. So that's the most. I want just
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: half my teams to have lead. If he does well,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: half my teams are good. If he sucks, I got
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: another half that are probably live to do something. Because
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the most popular play in the slave busted.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, these ones keep coming up, and sometimes I just
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: get like a feeling and just only gut feeling, but
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: like it's you already know what it's gonna be. It's
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: gonna be pass interference all night. The Bucks run for
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: like thirty on the ground, but somehow get three rushing
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: touchdowns from Bucky or from someone else, Tucker something like that,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: even though they didn't get an ounce on the ground,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: they just score the touchdowns that way. And so I
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: think the Tampa Bay Bucks running backs are interesting. Hoop
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: go back to just wide receiver or anything else you
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: want to throw out there with it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior, I think is very interesting. On the slate.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: We're showing twenty two percent when you go, when people
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: go and build, I think that has a chance to
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: come down a little bit, just because people are gonna
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: play Godwin over him. People are gonna play Evans over him,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: people are gonna play Za Flowers over him. People are
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: playing Lad McConkie over him at the wide receiver position.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: So he could come in. I don't know upper teams,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I think on the slate, and I think that's definitely
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: something something that stands out for sure. Has even in
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: the shittiest game scripts like he finds a way to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: score touchdown. So I think he's very interesting. We know
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay stuff like Goblin's gonna be very popular.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Evans kind of talked about the Sterling Shepherd situation could
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: get more complicated obviously if Trey Palmer is in the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: mix as well, So that's something to monitor. Seoan Bateman
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: cheap play coming with ownership. If you are playing a
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: tune of Lamar, like a lot of Lamar, I would
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: include Agilar. He you know, tends to get some targets there,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: and he's coming in at very very low ownership. We've
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: got Semmy like we talked about Josh Palmer, I think
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: is a fine option at at forty four Michael Wilson,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: and I guess maybe a little bit of a Greg Dortch.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I'll be playing a lot of these wide receivers, like
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I said, over some of the cheap running backs, over
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Justice Hill, over all the Bucks guys. I'm gonna play
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: all these wide receivers over over those guys as it
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: just works better with roster construction. So yeah, that's where
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I'm at wide receiver wise.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at combinations too, And one thing I like
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: here is Harrison over one of the Bucks guys. Like Harrison,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I know he's still coming in with some ownership, but
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: if he's going to be like twenty to Godwin sixty,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I like that. And I really like Harrison Moore with
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because he's he reminds me more of a
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: like a Jamar Chase style where if he has a
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: big day, it's going to be tied to Kyler. But
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I think you can offset that a little bit and
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: do some Lamar Harrison junior lineups, because it's saying who
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: would be most likely to beat Kyler Murray and fill
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it in for the Evans spot. Evans or Godwin are
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: going to be in a lot of Lamar and Baker
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: mayfield lineups, So going to that or even like a
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Baker Evans Harrison and fill in Harrison for your Godwin
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: spot in that build, Like little things like that that
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I'm looking to, is just another way to build it
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: differently but still find guys that are in decent spots.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And again, I know Harrison's not in the best spot necessarily,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: But on a two game slate, I care way less
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: about these report cards than I do on a main
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: slate because it's only so many spots to go, and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I care way more about leverage and game theory versus
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: what the field's doing. And we know the field is
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: playing Tampa Bay, and you know what the field is
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: doing in a lot of positions here this slate. That's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: why we talked through it this way, so I don't
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: have much else to add at that point. The lad
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: mccaukueating is obviously a little bit over the top, but
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: if you've got him, if his projection is legit, then
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. If you don't like his projection, then
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you can cap him or turn his projection down, so
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: title will go back to you. Tight ends and anything
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: else you want to talk about there.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: First, do you guys have a like I talked about
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: the buccaneer stuff. I went out there and said Bucky
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: if I had to pick one, and I'm not playing White,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: you guys, I know to Sam what You're probably gonna
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: mix a match just like you're knowing football. If you
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: had a guest, do you have leans on these guys,
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: You're gonna have more of one than the other stuff,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: or you just mixing a matching.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I like Bucky. I think the ownership on Bucky and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Rashad White flips that that changes much. It's like sixteen
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and twenty, so it's fine. I think more people will
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like Bucky. The ones that are, you know, the people
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: with the most DFS experience will forgive that event. Literally
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: had a full rant on it last week because remember
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: how Bucky was so bad, Oh he was terrible. He
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: got like what twenty Carr He had every opportunity in
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the world, and Sean Tucker got thirty on top that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: could have been some of a Bucky's it was a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: nut spot. This is not the best matchup spot. But
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: again on a two gamer, the ones that are ignoring
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: what I am a lot of the matchup stuff and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: just saying it's two games. You know those three other
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: running backs are super popular. I can go there. I
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: prefer Bucky for sure.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: The problem is all three of these guys can catch passes.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: They used were shot White a lot in the passing
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: game last year. Bucky's been a great pass catcher in college,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: great pass catcher. I would say Bucky's the best. Sean
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Tucker is a little fella too that is very agile, explosive.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: He can catch passes too. So unfortunately it's not like
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Hill Henry where if they're down it's clearly going to
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: be this. All of them can catch passes, So I
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: would still.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Thing, Yeah, I was just saying, should you would just
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: maybe bring up another point. I don't know how we
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: spend more time on two gamers than ten gamers. It
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: feels like there's more and stuff. I think that's what
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, but the thing you said too, remember
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: the stat forget just Lamar twenty two to one. Remember
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry stat he literally pops over six years.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: It's a serious sample size of like a five or
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: six point projection boost when you have them winning. So
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: if you believe in the Lamar twenty two and one thing,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: or just the numbers, Vegas, the line, whatever, and you
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: think Ravens win this game, that is something to be
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: said for Derrick Henry. We only have him projected for
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: sixteen right now. That's about his average because it's medium projection,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: but he should be leaning more towards that ceiling. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: so that would be something to play around with two.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Just when you're messing around on a two gamers sort of,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: all these rules can go out the window and you
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: can do some of that stuff. So I certainly think
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that is something. And then Kenny just brought up something
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about too, Mike Evans. Yeah, thing
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: about that Mike Evans he's saying might actually come in lower.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: It is possible.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I agree, definitely, actually definitely agree with that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much lower. I don't I don't
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: agree with like twenty for example, because it's not gonna happen.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: And another earlier today when I ran it with Sims,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the Sims really like Mike Evans too, So when people
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: know that everyone's on Godwin, it flips it over to him.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: He's gonna get a boost naturally for the higher stakes
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: guys and the ones using these these expensive sim sites.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: That's what's gonna I think. I think upper twenties is realistic,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: like twenty eight twenty nine range, Like, it's not gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: jam him.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: I mean he's I mean, I don't think Godwin's going
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: to be fifty or something.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Well. I think when Godwin's got massive ownership, I think
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Zay Flowers comes in way over Evans and then mconkie definitely.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, between Zay Flowers, Godwin, and mconkie they're going
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: to average like sixty percent ownership. You know, those those
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: three dudes that are you know is probably fifty range,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Godwins probably sixty. McConkie could get up to seventy. There's
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: just not the spots run out like the wide receiver
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: spots run out, and I guess obviously you can play
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: them in flex too, but you're talking about another premium spend.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, I know we didn't talk a lot
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: about FanDuel, but you look at FanDuel where Evans is
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: eighty two hundred like probably again I haven't messed around
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: on there a ton, but probably even more so over
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: there getting getting squeezed.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I agree on the FanDuel stuff. The other thing about
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: dekas your point earlier, who the guy that's getting that's
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: gut that has to get squeezed in my opinion is
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: what you said earlier, It's got to be Derick Henry,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: because how do you fit Evans in these game stacks
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: is you don't play Derrick Henry And because people love JK. Dobbins,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: which I get it, so that's gonna already be a
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: thing and they have to play at least two. I
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: think it is okay, I can get away with Justice Hill, Okay,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I can get away with James Connor. That just makes
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it so that they can fit Mike Evans. So I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: think you're on the right number. And I think that's
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: why on DraftKings it squeezes it that way. And you
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: can't smell Dante without date and this guy's all we
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: were talking about. To be had ten women to pick from,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: it's easy to cross some off, but with only two
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: choices on a Friday night, I have to weigh things
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit more that that is, my friends, very good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean very good analogy. It's a great way to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: break it down, and it's the don honest truth. It
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: really is pretty true. I gotta gotta lock in your
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: target early in the evening before before they disappear, you know, identify,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: identifying an attack. Yeah, oh no, I don't actually attack,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, position tamba tight end, Yeah, I think it's Again,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: ownership is kind of tough because like the Kate out
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: and stuff, I feel like he has to be higher
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: on than twenty six percent.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Again, I think two or three running backs won't be
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: that common in the flex, especially if you think Henry
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: gets squeeze. People don't want to go Tampa. James Connor
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Dobbins would be the highest. But if you want to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: play Baker, you're gonna play one of Edmunds or Godwin.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: If people are going the mar they're probably going to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: say they're going Herbert. It's a lot less people. No,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: then they probably don't need the savings. Maybe they go McBride.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: If you going Kyler, Murray and Harrison though that you're
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: probably going to McBride there. But you also need value.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: And again that's always on the field, and if the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: game people want to target people Mark Andrews Isaiah Likely.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I think they're the two lowest owned tight ends of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: the five you can play. I'm only playing Disley McBride Oughton,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: and then one of those two. McBride's the clearer best,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: but you have to pay a little more. He's gonna
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: come with ownership rightfully, so good matchup, and I think
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: it's clearly Oughton because will Disley. He stings, but he's cheap,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: so he's naturally gonna get ownership because he fills things out.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: People don't want to play the Chargers passing game as much,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: so outside of lad and the Fiocos, they'll go to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: Andrews and likely they split snaps. They want to go
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Zay Flowers a little more. Henry getting ownership. I think
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to eat into lean into that. And Isaiah
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Likely's outsnapped Mark Andrews most of these games, and I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: know Mark Andrews did get their last week for a touchdown.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: He still looks slow to me. Isaiah Likely, I think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: some monster I'm going to lean into the Snapchaer and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Likely's favor. I think he's a better tight end. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: think he's a better football player. We're showing lower ownership.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: He's the guy I'm going to get different. I'm clearly
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: playing not in because he fits fields, makes sense in
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Baker stuff. Trey McBride, I think is clearly the best
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: tight end. And it's a lot easier to leave salary
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: when you're playing trade McBride. Why can't he outscores eight flowers,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Marvin Harrison. We haven't seen that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: upside as much this year, but he's still definitely got
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: eight for one hundred and two touchdowns in his bag.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: And for those people that like to pick on, like
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: where does this defense get beat? Most tight ends do
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: beat up the charters in the middle of the field.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: So the only five tight ends I'm.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Playing today, Yeah, whoball kick a deal in the same
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: spot there? What do you got?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically same talking. But I really am interested in
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: the Ravens guys just because they're coming in the lowest,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: don't And Lamar Jackson is the premier quarterback on the slate,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: and you know the fact that the quarterback the highest
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: zoned quarterback, Like it's hard to get leverage situation. We
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: know Jay Flowers is getting ownership, we know Bateman's getting ownership.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I can go to tight end and these guys are
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: ranking fourth and fifth in ownership at the position, Like
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: that's the spot I want to expose. So I really,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I actually really like Mark Andrews as a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: play straight up to him. I hope the ownership remains
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: relatively low because I think it's the best way to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: build Lamar Jackson teams if you're trying to get a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: little bit different and it's cheap. Like it's cheap too,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: it's like four K. It's like it's like a full
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: punt price tag. And the last two weeks have been
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit better for him. Like I said, he
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: had the four catches. I think back to back weeks
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: and the touchdown last week, so interested, they're interested and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: likely and then like you know, yes, I'm gonna play
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: some Disley. I mean at twenty eight hundred, he's got
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: good gooseagg floor, like he can clearly go out there
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: and get zero. I'll play some Motten. But McBride's another
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: name though that I think could could come back a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: little bit. We're showing thirty six when you go to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: build teams like, it's like you can't spend everywhere, and
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I think people might be willing to sacrifice him a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: little bit. So I don't think that thirty six percent
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: number holds. I think he comes back a little bit.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But similar to title, I'm gonna be playing, you know
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: those five main guys. Double question you obviously always get
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: is double tight end. We get those questions on main
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: slates on a two game slate, Yes, you can play
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: double tight end.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Double tight end on the Ravens. Imagine they both want
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: a bunch together too, Just just limit your explosion. The
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: thing is both of them are likely the exact same
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: price as Bateman Andrews gives you three and a more dollars.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a defense swap where you just leave the money,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: but just to say certainly something there, these two cheapies
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: fit really well, make some nice lineups, especially for higher stakes,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: smaller fields. But I definitely think they're gonna be popular
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and even somewhat together. So I just want to look at.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a good point from Maids too, like I agree
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: with them. I think some of that McBride ownerships goes
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: to Otton for two thousand cheaper. You just need we'll
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: need the savings. So yeah, I bet oughten's more upper
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: mid thirties, and I would bet McBride's probably mid twenty.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: So good point there, Hoops Burner.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you need a bigger portfolio for this. I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: think I don't really. I mean, or if you're just
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: like playing one lineup and you want to take a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: risk and be different, I get it, But I'm doing
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: that with one hundred and fifty lineups. I'm not doing
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: that when I got one lineup. So I know what
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: your question was. We just talked about it. Don't let
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: me forget this. By the way, the next show we do,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: we need a giveaway off the top, Hoop. And you know,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: as we always think of what should the giveaway be,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: what do people need to put in the chat? Give
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: us your best theory, not right now, don't do this
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: right now, but don't let me forget your best theory.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: On what happened to our guy double D handbuilding his
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: lineups from his phone at the factory in the c
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I think he said it was on a crane rain
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: but man, shout out double D. Man. We've been missing
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: this guy. So yeah, don't let me forget that for
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: a show. That's a great one to get some theories
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: around what we think happened to him. Title that's our guy,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: anything uh, anything else? I don't. I don't have much
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: on tight ends. I already talked through quite a bit
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: of it. I like the k Otten ownership going up
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: versus the McBride going down. I think that's a good call.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Disley obviously just fits the spot. I think you want
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: to be stacking these guys though, like instead of just
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: one offering them to make everything work from that first game.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: That's what a lot of people are doing. I'm gonna
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: be looking more to use them within that game, like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray James so someone I think it was Nay.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: He's asked earlier about it in the chat about separating
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: a group with lad Godwin and Zay and playing at
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: most two of three. That's fine if you want to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: do that. I think that's definitely an option. But if
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: what if you have a Kyler Murray James, Connor McBride
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Disley lineup.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: But would want to separate that group. I guess like.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: The highest done guys on the slate, and then you're
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: gonna have a quarterback that's popular with them. I get
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: what he's saying. I just don't want to rule myself out.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, going back to it, there's certainly
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: other alternatives where you don't need to You're just not
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: gonna have to rule against it if you build your
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: lineups in other ways. And I just gave an example
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: of how you could do it, so probably.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. And I think the tight
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: end position is a great spot, though you can make
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: a pivot from, like you mentioned the baitman's down a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: little to Andrews. That's not a big one. But trade McBride,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison down to trade McBride, God went down to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: trade McBride, even Mike Evans and them down to Kate out.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: And like, it's a two game slate. Do I love
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: that stuff? You leave four k on the table, you
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: probably have a better probably more of a two v
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: two when you leave some money on the table. But
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: why couldn't Kate out and outscore one of these wide receivers.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Why can't trade McBride be the highest scoring pass catcher
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: on the slate. I guess he's the main one. The
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: trade make Bride's of the world. I could pivot from
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: any receiver on the slate, then there any running anyone
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: on the slate in the flex and I could drop
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: down to trade McBride because he has that type of upside. Well,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: this ley dozen's I don't know if I would say
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: ottn or Andrews likely have it, but I mean I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: likely did it week one, So why doesn't he have
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: it at the end of the day in a fifty
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: point total, I get that.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I guess there's one last stop for me and then
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I'll let you talk if you have anything else to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: add defenses, I think we'll just go through the ownership
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and quickly do it. But I would say that the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Lamar Derrick Henry McBride lineups that trio would get you
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: different up the guts, meaning everyone's gonna have God when
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Evan zay like that mid range of sixty five to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: eight k call it receivers, even those of the highest
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: might be seventy four hundred. My point being, as a
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: way to get different, you could do something like that,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: if those are the three highest scores on the slate
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: that you just need to have and fill it in
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: around that with some of those mid range wide receivers
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and cheapies versus the common build. A lot of people
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: will have title.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: For sure one hundred percent. And in terms of defenses,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: play them against, play the box against Lamar if you're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: playing Lamar, Play Ravens against Baker if you're playing Baker.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Like that was a little stuff you can do to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: get different within the stuff. As you see a lot
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: of times a punt return in the Sincy game, first
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: play of the game, the defense meant absolutely nothing. Trent
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Irwin just ran went back one hundred yards the London game.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: Were on the show Parker Washington, ninety six year putt
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: return defense didn't do anything. It was just a random
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: putt return play. Defense gets rewarded like it's so volatile. Unfortunately,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: DraftKings won't go to another flex or something. I'd be
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: down for it two games slate, though probably not because
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: someone one of these defenses probably will outscore the others
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: and there'll be a necessity and then random seventy five
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: percent of the field they're dead because they didn't get
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: the right four way coin flip. Right, But on two
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: game slates it's actually probably better to get more uniques
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: up top.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say Shippemiser has the option usually people
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: just turn on a lot defense versus quarterback on these
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: two game slates, but just allow versus everything. You could
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: literally have six guys from the other side or five
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: guys and be against the opposite defense. So don't limit
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: at all. Don't set that rule. It's just not something
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you need. On a slate like this, you can let
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: anything could happen. It could be Lamar with four other
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: dudes and the Bucks D is just the better d
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: on the slate. It's just the way it happens. So
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: it's completely random. But little things like that don't I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: guess the best way to say is, don't rule yourself
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: out of having the winning lineup by doing that. Hoop.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I'll go to you any final thoughts at defense or
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to talk about there.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, on these two games slates, I just tend
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: to include everybody in some way, shape or form. I mean,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: I don't want to have like zero of a defense
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: just because it is just so damn random, like just
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: so so random, and I don't want to exclude a defense.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: And like you said, they take the opening kickoff back
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: for a touchdown and your night's over. Like that's that's
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: not fun. That's not fun at all. So if you're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: building a lot of teams, just you know, make sure
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: to include them all. And I'll actively make sure I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: include them all. If I build my teams and I'm
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: getting like none of a defense, I'm gonna put in there,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I want minimum of eight percent or something, just so
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I have some some shares in there of each defense.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: It's a very volatile, high variant position.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say this too, is you know
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: you can mess around with the ownership. We're gonna mess
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: around with it more. We'll get finals up later on.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: But we've kind of had this take at every single position.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: It's just random, but I would definitely have this take.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I think the Ravens D comes down and the Chargers
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: goes up, and mainly because of the Dobbins ownership and
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: how many people just will say, screw it, let me
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: just pair that together. On the other side, So Dobbins
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: with Cardinals D is one that I would love, even
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: if you're overstacking the first game just because Herbert if
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: especially if you think he sucks or you're playing a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: limited number of him, it's not like you're killing your
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: other lineups, not even using diverse quarterback in very many
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: you can do that too. But if you're not on
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: them at all, like I'm sure hoop you if you're
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: fading Herbert tonight, I think it would be great to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: have some lineups because you're gonna have a bunch of
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Dobbins for a good reason. Some are even gonna be
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: locking him tonight. Just say for yeah, and if it's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be seventy five or eighty percent, and just give
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: me him. And people want to play for injuries. It happens.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: We've seen the Milli makership the night Chubb originally went down.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Nice to see him back in action yesterday. Sort of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the way the world works, one thing comes back, the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: other goes down. Amari Cooper and Chubb good games, Deshaun
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: out for the life maybe who knows, like a comeback
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: as a backup or something. Unfortunately, it sucks to see that,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's something where tonight you can just play Dobbins.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have Cardinals d against Dobbins if you lock
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and you're playing all the defenses. So I like that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: play quite a bit. Another way to do it.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, definitely, especially that sort of combination. If you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: are underweight or fading fading Herbert like that makes even
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: more sense to do something.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. The little stuff like Tambo's saying,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: the little little parns that people want to shy away from,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: or the handbuild they won't do it. That's what gets
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: you to the top without getting Okay, let me play
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Tyron Wallace today on this two gamer, and that's how
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: he catches a fifty yard bomb. Like the combinations, I'd
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: rather play Ravens D against my Baker may feel Chris Goddam,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Mike Evan, Sterling Shepherd and Hot and Team. Then I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: would play these wide receiver fours, et cetera, because anything
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: can happen.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: With another good point, last chance to get in on
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: the Kyler train.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: This is the Call of Duty's coming out next week,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: so it's one spot. But yeah, I think it was
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: a good, good show. I mean, we're gonna have everything
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: covered just so people see it on the slate. I know,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: you know we went long, but I'm fine with this hoop.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I think, just you know, set it up. We've got
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have showdown up for NFL on the site.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have projections, ownership will all be loaded into shipdemizer.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have the Stone, the core report, player pool,
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  Speaker 1: slate plan all for this second game, chargers at Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: with the bigger prize pools. You can apply the other
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  Speaker 1: stuff with the original showdown slate if you are playing
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  Speaker 1: three slates tonight, but most focus is gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: the two gamer. We'll have our projections and ownership. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have the Stone. You guys are been looking at the
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  Speaker 1: Stone the whole time, so you've got a bit of
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  Speaker 1: the cheat sheet, but the optimals and the adjusted ownership
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  Speaker 1: will be up. The core reports, the player pool, the
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  Speaker 1: slate plan, just a smaller version of playerpool, and the
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  Speaker 1: slate plan'd be good to go for you guys to
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  Speaker 1: check it all out, and right now talk about You don't
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  Speaker 1: it's on special but that's all access across the board,
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  Speaker 1: including ship divisor for all the sports we cover. So
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  Speaker 1: it's an optimizer and all that content you see on
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  Speaker 1: the site to get set up there. So anything else
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  Speaker 1: title you got final thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: Hey ready to get some of that money I lost
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  Speaker 3: back today? Let's have a bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to how do I get the equity of
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  Speaker 1: this thing, the separation of what I could have had
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  Speaker 1: or wanted to have versus what you don't get.
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  Speaker 3: So you'll forget about it. You'll forget about after you
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  Speaker 3: shift today. Tambo, you got it.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. We'll clip that if that goes through.
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  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts for you, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all our content will be up nice and early
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  Speaker 2: over at ship nation dot com. You know it always
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  Speaker 2: is on this slave. Obviously we'll cover the two game
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  Speaker 2: slate in full and then also the showdown slate as well,
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  Speaker 2: so you want to get over a ship at Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Everything will be up, you know, later this afternoon. I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing all my stuff right after this, So now is
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  Speaker 2: a great time to get in NBA. Man, Just I
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed to be a profitable DFS player because they're paying
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  Speaker 2: the ninety dollars a month because they want to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: support somebody that they trust in the industry. No, just
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  Speaker 2: don't do that, Like we have it fully covered here,
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  Speaker 2: an affordable price tag. Don't don't pay the ninety a
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  Speaker 2: mean Rio goes from morning through the last game, grinding
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  Speaker 2: NBA in the discord, taking questions, updating his content brought
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  Speaker 2: in there as well. Just please do me the favorite.
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  Speaker 2: And even if you don't sign up for us, just
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  Speaker 2: don't pay the other people the big bucks. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Hang gonna show it like that's the thing we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: now's the time to join. Go to the site ship
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  Speaker 1: it for this one guys, for Hoop title and for
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  Speaker 1: myself to tag and tambo let ship.
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  Speaker 5: Its names.
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  Speaker 2: And names had mas