Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Dr. Nicole Fox, Associate Chief Medical Officer and Medical Director of Pediatric Trauma at Cooper University Health Care
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- 0:32Hello, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:35My name is Chanel Banger. Today, I have
- 0:36the pleasure of speaking with doctor Nicole Fox,
- 0:39associate chief medical officer and medical director of
- 0:42pediatric trauma at Cooper University Health Care, who
- 0:45joins the podcast today to share insights in
- 0:47the health care trends she's keeping an eye
- 0:48on, advice for leaders, and a bit more.
- 0:50Doctor Fox, thank you so much for joining
- 0:52me. Thanks, Chanel, for having me. Happy to
- 0:55be here. Likewise. Well, to get us started,
- 0:57could you please introduce yourself and tell us
- 0:59a bit about Cooper University Health Care?
- 1:01Sure. Well, as you said, I'm the associate
- 1:03chief medical officer at Cooper, but I'm also
- 1:06a trauma surgeon and a surgical intensivist,
- 1:09as well as the medical director of the
- 1:10pediatric trauma center. So I serve two roles
- 1:13there as a trauma surgeon and a hospital
- 1:15executive.
- 1:16Cooper is an academic health system in Southern
- 1:19New Jersey. We have over 11,000
- 1:21employees,
- 1:22including over a thousand physicians and over 1,600
- 1:25nurses.
- 1:26So it's a busy place. We admit over
- 1:2732,000 patients a year, and we're the only
- 1:30one level one trauma center in Southern New
- 1:32Jersey. And, there's a lot going on.
- 1:35Well, let's get into what's going on. Can
- 1:37you talk about what trends you're currently watching
- 1:39either in pediatric trauma or just health care
- 1:41overall?
- 1:43Well, sure. Let's start with health care overall.
- 1:45I mean, what aren't we watching really is
- 1:47the question.
- 1:48Some of the things that are high on
- 1:50the priority list are obviously the incorporation
- 1:52and use of AI in our health system.
- 1:54That's a big one.
- 1:56How do we leverage this technology and how
- 1:58can we make work more efficient?
- 2:00Of course, the health care policy changes and
- 2:02how they'll impact the delivery of care is
- 2:04very important.
- 2:06But really, the thing that I'm focused on
- 2:07the most currently is the workforce.
- 2:10These are challenging times and the question is
- 2:12how can we keep the people who are
- 2:14delivering care and helping the hospital run smoothly,
- 2:17stay happy,
- 2:18productive,
- 2:19and efficient.
- 2:20You know, we can't ignore the fact that
- 2:21we are entering 2026
- 2:23after some very difficult years in health care.
- 2:25The the pandemic for one and and changes
- 2:28that are on the horizon.
- 2:29We're tired and our teams are tired, and
- 2:32that needs to be addressed
- 2:34and acknowledged and work needs to be done
- 2:36around that. I can tell you that that's
- 2:38particularly relevant in trauma care.
- 2:40We have been busy, we have never stopped,
- 2:43and the work is difficult. And so really
- 2:45paying attention to the workforce and what they
- 2:46need right now is a top priority for
- 2:49me and my teams.
- 2:51Got it. Got it. And now going into
- 2:532026,
- 2:55can you talk about what you're most focused
- 2:56on and excited about?
- 2:58Sure. Along with the theme that I just
- 3:00discussed, personally, I'm most focused on and excited
- 3:02about the development of our workforce and ensuring
- 3:05their sustainability.
- 3:07So the demands of on our system are
- 3:09tremendous and we need to ensure that as
- 3:10things get tougher, we have people who are
- 3:12still ready and willing to do the work
- 3:14and meet the challenges. So I'm very proud
- 3:16of the culture we build at Cooper
- 3:18and the fact that we're constantly looking for
- 3:20ways to keep people informed, to make their
- 3:22jobs easier, and remove barriers to getting their
- 3:25work done. So in my specific role, for
- 3:28example,
- 3:28physician engagement,
- 3:30physician well-being is very important, and I'm proud
- 3:32of some of the programs we put in
- 3:34place
- 3:35and are in the process of developing
- 3:37to assist with that. So one example would
- 3:40be our peer support program for physicians,
- 3:43and also advanced practice providers. We have a
- 3:45large team of peer supporters who are willing
- 3:48to serve as support for their colleagues.
- 3:51And we're also developing a coaching program,
- 3:54for physicians and APPs and working with the
- 3:57American Medical Association
- 3:59on our joy in medicine program.
- 4:01So, really, all efforts
- 4:03geared around
- 4:04trying to keep people engaged, wanting to come
- 4:07to work, excited to be in health care,
- 4:09and giving them the tools they need to
- 4:11stay resilient
- 4:12and focused.
- 4:13Thank you so much for walking us through
- 4:15that, doctor Fox. And,
- 4:17kind of expanding on that, can you talk
- 4:19about what you're most proud of from the
- 4:20past year or so?
- 4:22Well, I'm really proud of the fact that
- 4:24our engagement results across the organization
- 4:27are very high. It shows that the people
- 4:29that work at Cooper wanna be there, they
- 4:32intend to stay,
- 4:33and they're enjoying their work. And so I
- 4:35wanna continue that momentum forward in 2026,
- 4:39find maybe where some gaps exist and there
- 4:41are spaces that we need to fill. But
- 4:43overall, we're in a very good position with
- 4:45our workforce, and people are happy to be
- 4:48in our system.
- 4:49Got it. Got it. And as we all
- 4:51know, health care is evolving rapidly. And with
- 4:53that and all of your experience, I'm curious
- 4:55to know what advice do you have for
- 4:57the next generation of health care leaders stepping
- 4:59into the field today?
- 5:01Sure. I mean, two things. The first one
- 5:02sounds simple, but staying connected
- 5:05to your why
- 5:07and finding ways to help others do that
- 5:09as well is really important.
- 5:11The pace and the sheer volume of information
- 5:14we're subject to each day
- 5:16causes us to really get lost in the
- 5:19mechanics of the work. So, for example, I
- 5:21find myself, it's really easy for me to
- 5:23tell people what I do and how I
- 5:25do it, but it's easy to get disconnected
- 5:28from why I went into health care in
- 5:29the in the first place, why I do
- 5:31what I do. So with my teams, taking
- 5:34the time to step back and trying to
- 5:36focus on this when you can
- 5:38is really important and kinda bringing people back
- 5:40to that. And and most people have lost
- 5:42it, and that's understandable as time goes on.
- 5:45But doing activities with them and exercises to
- 5:47try to reconnect to their why, I think,
- 5:49is very important for leaders.
- 5:51You know, and I would say the other
- 5:52thing is, as leaders, we generally have the
- 5:55opportunity
- 5:56to see the bigger picture
- 5:58and understand what's going on behind the scenes
- 6:00and why certain decisions are being made in
- 6:02the system.
- 6:04Communication around that is critical,
- 6:07to keep people engaged and the lines of
- 6:09communication open. So making sure that we're sharing
- 6:12what we know, making sure that we're being
- 6:14clear about why decisions are being made and
- 6:17how
- 6:18they are reached
- 6:19is even more important now than it than
- 6:21ever before.
- 6:23Excellent advice. Well, doctor Fox, I wanna thank
- 6:25you for your time today. But before I
- 6:27let you go, is there anything else that
- 6:28listeners should know? I I know that you
- 6:30have a podcast,
- 6:31Prognosis
- 6:32Ikigai.
- 6:33Would you wanna talk about that for a
- 6:35bit? I do. Sure. I'd love to talk
- 6:37about it. So Prognosis Ikigai was sort of
- 6:39a passion project that started for me this
- 6:42year.
- 6:43Ikigai is a Japanese word for basically your
- 6:46reason for getting up in the morning or
- 6:47your reason for
- 6:49a living. You could translate it as to
- 6:51your why.
- 6:53And I started it because I see the
- 6:55darker side of health care. I see people
- 6:56that are disillusioned, people that are disengaged.
- 6:59And so I decided to focus on speaking
- 7:01to people in health care who have had
- 7:04successful and fulfilling careers, and they're all at
- 7:07different stages, of their journey, and ask them
- 7:10how they did it. And I really was
- 7:12surprised I had such a great variety of
- 7:14guests,
- 7:15this year. Everybody from our own CEO at
- 7:18Cooper,
- 7:19to the first black female transplant surgeon in
- 7:21The United States,
- 7:23to
- 7:24a former paramedic and firefighter who suffered from
- 7:27severe PTSD and had to retire and became
- 7:30a licensed,
- 7:31therapist.
- 7:32Just stories of people who had made their
- 7:35way in health care,
- 7:36who had had interesting journeys, and who were
- 7:39very happy, very fulfilled,
- 7:41very connected to their why, and doing what
- 7:44they love.
- 7:45And just hearing their stories unfold over the
- 7:48hour of the podcast was phenomenal, and it
- 7:51taught me a tremendous amount.
- 7:53So I I really enjoyed it this year,
- 7:55and I'm gonna continue it. Next year's theme
- 7:57in 2026 will be women leading in health
- 7:59care.
- 8:01And so, hopefully, everybody will stay tuned for
- 8:03that, but it's been a lot of fun.
- 8:05Love to hear it. And for listeners, that's
- 8:07Prognosis, I k
- 8:09I g a I.
- 8:10Well, doctor Fox, I wanna thank you once
- 8:12again for your time today and for sharing
- 8:14your insights on the Becker's Healthcare podcast. Thank
- 8:16you so much. Absolutely. Thank you.