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A Real Housewife Made Me Cry, R Kelly and Wendy Williams · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. It's me. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: into it. Let's go. Well, yesterday was an exciting day
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  Speaker 2: for many of us that have followed this case, which
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  Speaker 2: is the Epstein case. And of course, Ghislaine, Ghislaine, Ghislaine,
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  Speaker 2: I don't really freaking care. Lots of people pronounce it
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  Speaker 2: wrong and I don't care if I do too, because
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  Speaker 2: she's an asshole. She's an awful person. And she, of course,
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  Speaker 2: was the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein, and she has been
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  Speaker 2: sentenced to 20 years. She is 60 now. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there's anything where she might be up for
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  Speaker 2: parole before this 20 years are up, but she did
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  Speaker 2: make a statement, and her apology was to you, to you,
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  Speaker 2: all the victims who came in court, And those outside,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for the pain that you experienced, Maxwell said.
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  Speaker 2: I hope my conviction and harsh incarceration brings you closure.
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  Speaker 2: But before her punishment was delivered, Maxwell acknowledged that her
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  Speaker 2: friendship with the sick financer who killed himself behind bars, maybe,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not, in August of 2019, while he was awaiting
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  Speaker 2: trial on sex trafficking charges, will forever and permanently stay
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  Speaker 2: in here. I believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a manipulative, cunning,
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  Speaker 2: and controlling man who lived a profoundly compartmentalized life and
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  Speaker 2: fooled all those in his orbit, she said. So she's
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  Speaker 2: putting the blame on him. It is the greatest regret
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  Speaker 2: of my life that I ever met Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell said,
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  Speaker 2: adding Epstein should have been here before all of you.
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  Speaker 2: Very interesting. Her victims say her apology doesn't cut it
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  Speaker 2: as she is sentenced to 20 years. And she also
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  Speaker 2: broke into tears. The victim has broken into tears saying
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  Speaker 2: they lived a dungeon of sexual hell. And so hopefully
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  Speaker 2: her sentence will send a message, prosecutors say, to To
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  Speaker 2: be an accomplice, whether it's an accomplice, she's not an accomplice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact is the main person who really
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  Speaker 2: brought this forward, the Virginia Guffrey, who is the one
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  Speaker 2: who has the photo with Prince. What's his name? Who
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  Speaker 2: was the prince that she was with? Prince Andrew. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he said he never saw her. He didn't remember her.
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  Speaker 2: She is the one that introduced Virginia to Epstein and
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  Speaker 2: then also said, do for Prince Andrew what you do
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  Speaker 2: for Epstein. So it was really her testimony that really
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  Speaker 2: got this going. Of course, there's so much information on it,
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  Speaker 2: so many documentaries. I've talked about it. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: every fact at the top of my head, just that
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  Speaker 2: I feel very good that justice has been served. I
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  Speaker 2: feel good that she has been sentenced. Some people in
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  Speaker 2: comments were like, why was this not televised when Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Depp and Amber Heard were? And it was that this
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  Speaker 2: is a federal case. And I guess in federal cases,
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  Speaker 2: they don't want it or they don't allow it to
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  Speaker 2: be televised. So I thought that was interesting versus a
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  Speaker 2: Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, you know, personal defamation case that
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  Speaker 2: could be televised. So I really don't know what constitutes
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  Speaker 2: what's televised or not, but I thought that was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the next sentence is, when is she going
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  Speaker 2: to off herself? Like, everyone's like, what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: Where are the names? Now, I find the whole thing interesting. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if we're talking about the different theories of did Epstein,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, kill himself, as you will recall, he was
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  Speaker 2: awaiting trial. He was in his cell. The two people
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  Speaker 2: who were supposed to be watching him because he had
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  Speaker 2: already had like some suicide attempt happened to both fall
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  Speaker 2: asleep that night. And he hung himself with an enormous
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  Speaker 2: amount of bedding that he had in there, which I
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  Speaker 2: thought was weird because I always thought that was like
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  Speaker 2: the bummer of being in prison is that you're very
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  Speaker 2: limited to like sheets and pillows. But he had enough
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  Speaker 2: to hang himself. What were they told to act asleep?
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  Speaker 2: Did they fall asleep on purpose? Did they– Were they
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  Speaker 2: paid to not check on him? Or did someone go
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  Speaker 2: in there and really kill him? Or was he just
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  Speaker 2: left alone enough to actually do it, which was also
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  Speaker 2: a mistake because they were supposed to be watching him
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  Speaker 2: every hour? And did that happen because had he not died,
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  Speaker 2: he would have given all these names of the other
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  Speaker 2: powerful men that we know that he was in contact with,
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  Speaker 2: who went to the island with him, who were his investors, who,
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  Speaker 2: you know, possibly he blackmailed with video of them with
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  Speaker 2: these women or, you know, and so that's how he
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  Speaker 2: grew his wealth. Who are these people? Are we ever
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  Speaker 2: going to know the names? So, of course, Epstein's gone.
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  Speaker 2: We never know. Then she comes forward. And we were like,
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  Speaker 2: is she going to spill it? Is she going to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: here's– please, give me a better deal, prosecutors. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give you evidence of this powerful person, this powerful person,
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  Speaker 2: and let me off easier. Well, that never happened. Well,
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  Speaker 2: now that she's been sentenced– I guess the other thought
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  Speaker 2: would be, wait, now she's got nothing to lose. So
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  Speaker 2: why wouldn't she tell? Why wouldn't she tell on all
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  Speaker 2: these other people? Could she tell? Could she write a book?
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  Speaker 2: Could she have an interview where somebody comes in and
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  Speaker 2: interviews her and she tells? Is her life safe because
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  Speaker 2: she has this knowledge? Or does she not have any
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  Speaker 2: knowledge or evidence towards some other people? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Just very interesting. So that happened yesterday. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of, a lot of, lots going on in
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  Speaker 2: the sex trafficking world today. Also R.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: That was an also amazing documentary about just the, oh
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  Speaker 2: my God, it was almost like he had a, like
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  Speaker 2: a sex cult. You may recall there were these two
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  Speaker 2: girls that were his main people, even after he's been arrested,
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  Speaker 2: that stood by him. One is Joy Savage. Her parents
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  Speaker 2: have been trying to get her away from him. She's
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  Speaker 2: still standing by him. He is being sentenced today. It
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  Speaker 2: could be decades. We're waiting. And then there's a charge.
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  Speaker 2: He's in Brooklyn, but there's another charge in Chicago. We're
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  Speaker 2: waiting on to hear what he will get. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: as I heard that this news is coming out today,
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  Speaker 2: we don't. He just got sentenced. That's how breaking news
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  Speaker 2: we are, you guys, even though you're getting this the
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  Speaker 2: day after I record it. He did just get sentenced
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  Speaker 2: to 30 years.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: This is really good news. 30 years, does it say
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  Speaker 2: what prison he would be in or anything? Or we
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  Speaker 2: don't know yet. So it just updated a minute ago.
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  Speaker 2: He got 30 years. If you are not familiar with
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  Speaker 2: the R. Kelly, Robert Kelly saga, I mean, there are
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  Speaker 2: some really great documentaries on it that were fascinating that
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  Speaker 2: came out a couple years ago. And I suggest you
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  Speaker 2: you know, brush up. That's really the best. But it was,
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  Speaker 2: he would take these young girls that thought they were singers.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes the parents believed it. Just like on Tuesday's show,
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  Speaker 2: when I talked about how people play on your emotions
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  Speaker 2: as a parent, your child is so talented. Here's this
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  Speaker 2: great opportunity. Maybe you were a singer or performer in
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  Speaker 2: your day and, you know, you didn't pursue it. Now
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  Speaker 2: your child who is your child, so you believe they're
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  Speaker 2: super talented. you didn't, you don't know that R. Kelly
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  Speaker 2: is a sexual predator and you were like, sure, by God,
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  Speaker 2: go to the studio, work with them. That is how
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  Speaker 2: he would get his victims, especially the ones that were,
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  Speaker 2: you know, under age. Okay. Is, and so people, some
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  Speaker 2: people criticize the parents and all this. I never did
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  Speaker 2: because I understood how it'd be like, we don't know
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  Speaker 2: the business. Of course, I'm not getting into every case.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys will comment how you disagree with me.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, um, So I bought this Portia Williams book,
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  Speaker 2: Portia from Real Housewives of Atlanta. And I was at
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  Speaker 2: the bookstore a while ago because I remembered that she
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  Speaker 2: had a story about R. Kelly. And in all the
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  Speaker 2: interviews and stuff that she did, she didn't really get
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  Speaker 2: into it. She probably wanted you to read the book,
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  Speaker 2: buy and read the book. So when this came down,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my God, I have the book in
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  Speaker 2: my library of Housewives written books. OK, I've got them all.
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  Speaker 2: And we found the portion. And let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: what happened to Portia Williams. I will summarize it for you.
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  Speaker 2: She is 25 years old at the time, not married,
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  Speaker 2: and she goes to a lounge at the Bellagio in
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas. And she's having a good time with her girlfriends.
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  Speaker 2: She's always been pretty, of course. And this guy, Lenny,
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  Speaker 2: who's security for R. Kelly, comes up to her and
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  Speaker 2: is like, ooh, you look like you should be a star.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do? are you on television? Nothing. And
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  Speaker 2: she goes, no, I'm not in television or anything. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what you look like you could sing or something. And
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  Speaker 2: she's like, I never thought I could sing, but my
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  Speaker 2: mother always said I could sing. And when someone asks
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  Speaker 2: you to sing, you're just supposed to sing. So he's like,
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  Speaker 2: let me hear you. So then she just, she says
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  Speaker 2: in the book, so I stood there flat footed. I'm
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  Speaker 2: like flat footed. Weren't you wearing heels? You're in a
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  Speaker 2: lounge in Las Vegas. And I sang, and we looked
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  Speaker 2: up the song as a Whitney Houston song I'd never
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  Speaker 2: heard of. Of course, if somebody asked me to sing,
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  Speaker 2: I would sing one of my favorite songs because it's
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  Speaker 2: the role from Annie.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And trigger warning, I'm going to sing a little bit
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  Speaker 2: if I was asked to sing. Maybe in a house
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  Speaker 2: all hidden by a hill. That's the song where she
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know where her parents are. Then, when she gets excited,
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  Speaker 2: when she's about to be adopted by a straight, white,
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  Speaker 2: single male in his 50s who has a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? The sun will come out tomorrow. Bet
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  Speaker 2: your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be a sun. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: getting back to Portia. I did think of that about
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  Speaker 2: Annie the other day, though. I was like, that is
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  Speaker 2: really weird. Like, Daddy Warbucks, and she had to call
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  Speaker 2: him Daddy. Creepy. Daddy Warbucks didn't have a wife. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have a cute husband. He was just a single,
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  Speaker 2: rich man living in a fabulous house in New York,
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  Speaker 2: much like single, white, straight Jeffrey Epstein, who never got married.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they let Jeffrey Epstein adopt a
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  Speaker 2: little orphan Annie? Going back to R. Kelly. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: she's sitting there. She sings her song. He's like, you
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  Speaker 2: are amazing. I don't know how he could have hurt
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  Speaker 2: her if she's in a lounge in Las Vegas. I'd
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  Speaker 2: assume other music was playing. But you can't blame a
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  Speaker 2: girl for being like, this is my break. Like I
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  Speaker 2: said on Tuesday, when the guy approached me and said,
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  Speaker 2: I think you could be a model. I was like, finally,
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  Speaker 2: somebody gets it. Okay. And then of course it was
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  Speaker 2: a modeling agency for people that don't look like models.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this was a singing thing for people that don't sing,
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  Speaker 2: but she's like, great. She goes to the studio. They,
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  Speaker 2: she lives in Atlanta. They fly her to Chicago and
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  Speaker 2: She goes to R. Kelly's studio. According to the book,
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  Speaker 2: she never does sing for R. Kelly, does she? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: she sings a little bit for R. Kelly. They hang
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  Speaker 2: out in the recording studio for about 45 minutes. And
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  Speaker 2: then he has to go somewhere. So she's hanging out
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  Speaker 2: there for a while. Then one of his people come
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  Speaker 2: and go, oh, come with me, Portia. And he drops
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  Speaker 2: her off in R. Kelly's bedroom where she's just waiting
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  Speaker 2: there by herself in the bedroom. He comes in. He's like, hey, baby,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. And he's talking to her like they've been
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  Speaker 2: in a relationship for a really long time. And he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're pretty or who I want. I want
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  Speaker 2: a girl like you. You know, do you think this
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  Speaker 2: could work for you? And she's really swept up in it.
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  Speaker 2: And then he goes, can you take off your clothes?
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  Speaker 2: So she does. She says she doesn't look the way
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  Speaker 2: she looks now. She was much, you know, thinner and
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  Speaker 2: like didn't have the hips and the boobs that she
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  Speaker 2: has now. But he seemed to like that. Then he said,
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  Speaker 2: how old are you? And she says, I'm 20. And
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  Speaker 2: before she can say 25, he goes, stop right there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just say you're young. That was creepy. They have sex.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, wow, this isn't me in her head.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't me. This is how my mom was taught
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  Speaker 2: me to be. But this is exciting. And he's acting
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  Speaker 2: really into me. And he's acting really sweet. And maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be a big star. So after that,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, got to go. You good? And he leaves.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, okay. She goes back to Atlanta. He
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  Speaker 2: calls her a few more times. She comes back. She
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  Speaker 2: says a couple times she would come back to Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: A beautiful car would pick her up. A security guy
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  Speaker 2: would take her to the house. The next time she's there,
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  Speaker 2: she sees other girls that are there. So she knows
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  Speaker 2: she's not the only one. And this one girl's like, hi,
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  Speaker 2: how long have you been here? You know, how did
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  Speaker 2: you get here? And she's, but she's like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: in this room over here by myself. And they're in
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  Speaker 2: this room by themselves. Then one night they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: takes her another time. And she's like by herself for
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  Speaker 2: like a couple days, hungry. Finally, she's like, hello, can
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  Speaker 2: I come down? She didn't feel like, even though there
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a lock on the door, she feel like she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't roam the house by herself. She felt like she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't like just go down and get some food, but
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  Speaker 2: she would like occasionally pick up the phone in the
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  Speaker 2: room and be like, I'm hungry. Can I get something
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  Speaker 2: to eat? And then be like, yeah, also, hey, it's hot.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to jump in the pool? No, I'm fine. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: go back. And she's like waiting in this room for
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  Speaker 2: like two days for R. Kelly to come, who they
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  Speaker 2: all call Robert. When you're in a relationship with him,
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  Speaker 2: you call him Robert and wait for him to come.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, what am I doing? But she did
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  Speaker 2: tell like one girlfriend where she was and there's a
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  Speaker 2: full mirrored room with the TV in it. And she's
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  Speaker 2: just like, oh my God, I don't even know how
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  Speaker 2: many days I've been sitting here staring at myself. She goes,
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  Speaker 2: I think I want to go home. And they say, no, wait,
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  Speaker 2: tonight's a big night. And Robert would like to take
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  Speaker 2: you to a party. Come with minimal makeup, get cute,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll pick you up and take you to the party.
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  Speaker 2: They pick her up. And they take her to the party,
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  Speaker 2: but the party's just downstairs. And all the other girls
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  Speaker 2: are there, like 25 girls. And people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: how long have you been here? How do you know
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  Speaker 2: him and stuff? And then he comes down and they
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  Speaker 2: only are playing his music. They would only play his songs.
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  Speaker 2: He comes down and everybody cheers. Sound familiar? The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: I looked it up, and this would have been 2006.
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  Speaker 2: So The Bachelor was running, and I almost feel like
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  Speaker 2: he created– he must have been watching the show and
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  Speaker 2: was like, why don't we do a party like that
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  Speaker 2: and have the girls all meet their competition? And I
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  Speaker 2: come out, and I spend a little bit of time
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  Speaker 2: with each one. He goes to Portia. He's like, hey, baby,
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  Speaker 2: kisses her on the lips. She's like, oh, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: see him kiss anybody else on the lips. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 2: really into me. I mean, just like The Bachelor. She
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  Speaker 2: eventually goes up to her room, and that's when she
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  Speaker 2: hears a woman– being physically assaulted outside her door. And
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  Speaker 2: it's really horrific and terrible. And she's like, I am
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  Speaker 2: out of here. And she calls the security and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't get me out of here, I'm calling
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  Speaker 2: the police right now. She calls her friend. The friend
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  Speaker 2: helps her find a flight. The guy's like, okay, like
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  Speaker 2: this one's not going to play along. Let's just get
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  Speaker 2: rid of her. He puts her in a car. She's gone. R.
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  Speaker 2: Kelly calls her a number of times over the next months.
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  Speaker 2: She lets him leave voice messages. Finally, she's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: done with you, R.
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  Speaker 3: Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: Years later, she does go to detectives when they're investigating
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  Speaker 2: him and shares her story. And she's like, if my
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  Speaker 2: story can help, you know. So anyway, that was pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We know that the girls were not all underage, but
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  Speaker 2: he was definitely a sex trafficker. He was definitely keeping
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  Speaker 2: girls safe. you know, very in a culty way. I
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  Speaker 2: remember they had to ask for food. They had to
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  Speaker 2: ask to go to the bathroom. Some of them had
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  Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom in those rooms, like in
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  Speaker 2: a bucket. Uh, it was absolutely horrible. Um, of course
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  Speaker 2: this one girl is still saying we're in love and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sticking by him and it just, just, it's a
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: great day that he got 30 years. That's for sure.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. Moving on. Oh, speaking of which, Seeking Sister Wives.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That's on TLC. I watched that last night. That was
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: very much like this weird thing when reading Portia's book
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: about how these girls are all aware that they're not
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the only ones and it's okay. Well, in Seeking Sister Wives,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: this show is where these couples are looking to find
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: another wife, either a second or a third. Yes, they're
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: looking for either a second or a third wife. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: don't think anyone has more than that many wives. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in it, the girls really want this other wife because
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they're just like, this is what we have to do.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to help him find this wife. And in
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: this one case, there's this guy, he's like a poor
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: man's magician. He's so gross. And his girl is like,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and she had joined he and his wife that was
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the mother of his kids. That woman left. Now she's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: raising these kids that are not hers. And she's trying
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to find him another wife. He finds this beautiful girl
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: from the Philippines. And now he has to go to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the Philippines. They have to spend all their money to
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: send him to the Philippines to pursue her. It is
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: so weird how these other women are just like, well,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you know, she's such a catch for our family and
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: she could get anybody. So I want to make sure
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that he nails it down. And he's like, yeah, I mean,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: she's like so gorgeous. I can't believe she's into me. Meanwhile,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the The original girl is sitting there like, yeah, second
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: wife is prettier. It is so bizarre. It is so weird.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Or the wife just has no friends. And she was like, well,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that this girl would be more into
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like watching movies and braiding my hair. And then in
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: one group, they all do sleep in the same bed together.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So I think that's– they don't say it's sexual, but
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that's pretty sexual. Anyway, it's all so freaking bizarre. Not
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: as bizarre as Machine Gun Kelly. Now listen. I like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Machine Gun Kelly's music. They're all friends. He's been wearing
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: pink a lot. He has a Hulu doc out. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: after his show, he, after his after party, he took
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: his champagne glass and he smashed it against his own face.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And then blood was running down his face, like Lisa
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Rinna style. Like when she, don't you talk about the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: husband with it. He basically did that to himself. I
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: don't know what sparked it. I don't know if someone
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: pissed him off or whatever. He's just a crazy, thirsty person.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: But then he just dabbed the blood and continued singing
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: his Bloody Valentine song. I have not watched the Hulu doc.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, do I need to go through another self-indulgent doc?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I have the time. But in it,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I guess he talks about how he snapped and he
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: put a loaded shotgun into his mouth during a call
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: with Megan Fox like a year or something ago. My God.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I was David, I mean, if I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: was David Austin Green, is that his name? That's Brian.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: If I was Brian Austin Green, who is her former
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: husband and father of her three kids, I would, maybe
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: he's happy with the custody agreement. Maybe he doesn't care.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: But if he wasn't, I would think this would be
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: some pretty powerful stuff to be like, hey, Megan, come
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: see the kids whenever you want. I don't want this
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: guy who smashes glasses into his face at a party,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: threatens to kill himself with a gun. I don't want
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: guns around the house. I don't know. I don't know
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: their situation, but Brian Austin Green seems pretty normal. He's
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: with his dancing partner from Dancing with the Stars, who he,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're married or not, but she's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: expecting their baby. And, oh, I don't know. And then
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Megan Fox, now she's, blonde and looking exactly like Kim Kardashian.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody looks the same. Okay. But Megan Fox
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: was really beautiful, especially after she got her nose done.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was pretty to start, but then you
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like see the change. She got her nose done. She
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: lost the weight, some weight, and then she got a chiseled, perfect,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: gorgeous face. Now she's getting the lips. Now she has
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the blonde hair. She's really thin. I think she got
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a new boob job. She's wearing pink because that's like
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: his theme. I don't know why. Oh, I guess his name, oh,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the name of the show is Life in Pink. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: guess that's why we have to wear pink. Anyway, kind
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: of weird. I'm really sick of them. I don't know
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: when they're going to get married, but they shouldn't. They
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: need to milk this out because the minute they get married,
• 22:15
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• 22:21
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• 22:25
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• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I need a home dad.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: go through. It's about what happens next.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But also, we were seeing these photos of them filming
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: this Barbie movie with Ryan Gosling. And this is from E!
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: News.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And what's her name? Margot Robbie. Margot Robbie. Ryan Gosling,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I think, is a little old to be Ken. I'm sorry.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He looks great. He's cute. I just thought it was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a weird choice. He's 41 in real life. She's only 31,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: which I was kind of shocked. So I guess she
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was really young when she did Wolf of Wall Street.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Both are great, you know, fun actors. I don't know
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: what the storyline is about them playing Barbies, but they're
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: wearing the same hot pink that Machine Gun Kelly and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Megan Fox are wearing. I don't know what this would
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: be about. It could be sort of funny, though. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: think it could be funny like Somehow they're Barbies and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they like wish to be real. And all of a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: sudden now they're living in the real life. This is
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: what I'm guessing. And then they're like, they're going to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Venice and they're like, well, Venice isn't, you know, we're like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: this is kind of gross. Where are my, where's my
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: little beach house? And I don't know, you know, like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, it could be, it could be kind of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: fun or it could be like a Saturday Night Live
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: sketch that went on way too long. You know what
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like, okay, we get it. What would life
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: be if you were just a Barbie living in a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Barbie world and then you have to actually go out
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: in the real world and like make some money and,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. And then, you know, the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: whole thing about the original Barbie is like when they
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: realized that her body was like not the right proportions.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Remember that? Whenever it was freaking out, they're like, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: if Barbie was a real person, her waist would be
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: 17 inches and dah, dah, dah, which by the way,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: people do have that nowadays. So, you know, anyone can
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: make their body anything, but now we have, you know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a much greater variety of Barbies. I know from my
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: extensive Barbie shopping that I did. So it might be
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: fun to see those other Barbies come to life too.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And if they address any of that, like, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know that they will though. Like now it
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: has to be like very politically correct. Who knows what
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this movie would be, but there's just been so many
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: photos of them filming out. Speaking of a blonde Barbie,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian, also now blonde because her best friend took
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: her look. She's being sued. I talked about last week
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that Hailey Baldwin is being sued for the name of Rode,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: which is her skincare. And now Kim is being sued
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: for her skin, S-K-K-N, trademark. There is a woman in
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn who is an esthetician who has also been who
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: trademarked Skin, that same Skin Plus is what she called it,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a few years ago. And she said, I reached out
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to them when I heard this was coming and they're like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: ignored her. And Kim's attorneys are saying, wait a minute,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you're trying to take over a global brand. You were
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: like this little esthetician in Brooklyn. Okay. And then once
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: you heard that she was coming out, Kim, Then you
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: got a website. Then you actually got a brick and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: mortar place to sell your products. It's still so small. Anyway,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: so her attorneys are saying it's a shakedown. I just
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: find it interesting because she also went out and said, oh,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: my God, this was all Kanye's idea. Kanye thought of
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the name. Kanye thought of the packaging. Kanye thought of
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the spelling. So I'm like, are you putting on Kanye
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: because you knew this was coming? I don't know. Um, or,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes the attorney would say, this girl saw
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this as a, a grab, like, let me make it
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: look like my, my thing is a bigger deal, but
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: you did have the trademark. And then the hopes that
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Kim would do like, Hey, I think you're amazing. Also, she's,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: she's black and she's a female owner. So it does,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't look great that Kim would, but hopefully I'm surprised
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Kim hasn't done this, but this is what I predict.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Kim will say, oh my gosh, you're such an amazing entrepreneur.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Just like I suggested that Haley Baldwin should do with
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the road. And approach this woman and not only give
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: her a gift so that she can build her own
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: esthetician studio in Brooklyn, but change the name. And like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I want to meet you. I want to help you.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to post about your amazing facials. Or why
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: don't you do facials using my products? My God, that's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: what it should be. She should say, I want you
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: to open the first brick-and-mortar esthetician place under Kim Kardashian.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: It's like the one place you can go. And then
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: she does the facials with all the products. And you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: can actually walk in and buy the products there. You're welcome. Okay?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: This is sad. This was scary yesterday. Travis Barker was
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: sent to the hospital. We didn't know what it was.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: His daughter died. said, play, pray for my dad. Uh,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Courtney was there. The daughter was there. And, um, and anyway,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: what happened was it's scary. Apparently he got a colonoscopy
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: and he developed pancreatitis. Am I saying it right? Pancreatitis. Yeah. Pancreatitis. Anyway.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And I was talking to Peter about it and this
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is really disturbing. Um, A lot of people get colonoscopies
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: around 50. Some people earlier, if you have like a
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: family history of colon cancer or anything like that. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I guess an infection started, which could be that like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: these tubes that they use to go up your colon
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and check it could have possibly not been completely sanitized
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: or new or I don't know, but it must, it
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: caused an infection. I assume he's going to be okay,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: but that was kind of scary and weird. And you
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: might want to just double check if you're getting a colonoscopy,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: be like, was that clean? Can I see it? You know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: when you get your nails done and the girl like
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: takes it out of the package, you might want to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: ask about that. Okay. So it was North's birthday and,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: It was called Camp North, and I saw this on
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Kim's page, and my God. So Kim Eyre, she has
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: her own plane. All the girls, there was like eight
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of them, got to go on the private jet to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: some place for a fun day of camp. So they
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: go on the jet. It's all decorated. They go ziplining
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: with their little friends, and then they have their own
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: little tent set up with like a deer head. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: did think this was weird. It was a deer head
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: on each– little tent. And then the white part of
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: the tent was, uh, appeared to be the blood of
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the deer that had spread on it before they cut
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the head. I just, that was the first thing I noticed.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Cause she posted all these on her, her Instagram. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do we have to be reminded? Like, it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: okay that you had the deer head. Cause it's cute.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, you Rudolph. I don't, I don't think
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: they have to know that like these deer had to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be killed in order to have a head. Like above
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a fireplace, but to actually like have like the splattered blood,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I just thought, um, yeah, I think I would have
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: skipped that part, but you know, you probably just hired
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: these people. Hey, do all this stuff. And they're like, girl,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you are going to love it. We made it such
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: authentic camping experience. There is bloodshed from a deer. I
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: don't know. Weird. So Wendy Williams, as you know, the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Wendy Williams show has ended. And, um, so she did
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: an interview with TMZ. And people are posting little clips
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: of it because they are concerned. So she explains her condition,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: which I'm not going to even attempt to say the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: word of the condition. But this is when, if you
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: watched any of her documentary, she did a documentary and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: then she did a scripted show. But she has this
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: disease that really makes her feet in a lot of pain.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: She can only feel 5% of them and they're really
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: quite swollen. That's why she has to put these like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: compression things on them during the day. This is why
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: when she would do the show, when I was on
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the show, she would always just wear like tennis shoes.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: It was, I think it's gotten progressively worse, which is sad.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: And she like shows her foot, like in the interview,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: she picks up her foot and it's pretty alarming. So
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that part was sad. But then she said, well, I'm
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: going to have a podcast. And But I'm famous and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: famous people can make more money at a podcast than
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I could on the Wendy Williams show. And I know
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, um, I'm already working with something, somebody,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: we don't have a, they said, we don't have a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: debut date or anything, but you know, I'm going to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: have Snoop Dogg on and all these people. And what
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: she does, cause it's been in Venice a long time.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And then she says, but I don't know where we'll go.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: We'll go to Europe. We'll France, we'll do the France thing.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That was really, that was the part that was really
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: weird because in talking about the podcast, she was like saying,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I think they may have asked like, where would it go? Like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: would it be Spotify exclusive or Apple exclusive? Are you
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: going to do it independently? And then she's like, where
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: will we go? And then in her mind, she was like, Europe,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the France, anywhere. So that made people go, wait a minute,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: or does she not understand that the best part about
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: podcasting is that you can just do it from anywhere
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and it can go anywhere? Anyway, I'm sure she will
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: have something, but I think the reason her show didn't
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: go on is that it just became, she's too unreliable
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and you don't know when she's really going to be
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: set to like, hey, every day, At 12, we're going
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: to tape this the way she did for so many
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: years on her show. And it is really heartbreaking. So
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: whatever she does, I hope it works out and I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: hope she gets healthy. Megan and Harry, they have hired Oscar-nominated,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: page six wrote it this way, I don't know why,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Oscar-nominated left-leaning director Liz Garbus to helm their Netflix docuseries.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: So they are going forward with this docuseries. I know
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: they had this Netflix deal. I know they had a
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: podcast deal, though. There was like one podcast episode I
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: heard where they were talking and like Archie was in
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the background. And then it was, then I heard, oh no,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: she's going to interview people about women's stereotypes. I mean,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: all these people, good luck.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Good luck with this. And the people that gave them
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: $ 10 million, good luck with getting great content out of
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: these people.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway. I just thought it was interesting that now they
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: said they wanted their privacy. They couldn't stand the staff
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: around and people talking about them. But now they're going
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to have a bunch of sweaty guys in cargo shorts
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: carrying cameras, following them around while they're like changing their
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: baby's diaper. Like, what is it? Or are we just
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: going to see them doing fabulous things, going to visit,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you know, scenes where people were hurt or going to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the VA hospital? I don't know what they're going to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: be doing, but I'm sure... It'll be very curated. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: really think their popularity has waned. I really think people
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: just do not care. And it'll be curious to see, like,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: will people really go, ooh, I want to watch this? Like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: they're not funny. They're not the Kardashians that at least
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: are just, like, so intriguing to look at and shake
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: their salads. Like, you just can't look away. So, I mean,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I think they're pretty boring and funny.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: God.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. What were they thinking? But
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: now she, Meghan Markle, is slamming her half-sister, Samantha. Samantha
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: has filed a defamation lawsuit because of what Meghan Markle
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: said in interviews about her, saying that they weren't raised together,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: saying that she didn't use the name Samantha Markle until
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I became Meghan Markle and a star of And that
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is all part of Samantha's defamation lawsuit against Meghan Markle.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And Meghan is saying she has moved to dismiss Samantha
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Markle's meritless defamation case and asked for recovery of attorney's fees.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: That was just yesterday. So, of course, she doesn't want
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: this out. Maybe she could just offer her, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it, some candlesticks. I don't know
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: if Meghan took any when they had to leave in
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night to just go and couch
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: surf in Santa Barbara and knock and beg in the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: middle of the night at Tyler Perry's house and say,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: we could just lay on your couch. We had to
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: escape the monarchy. They won't allow us to have security
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: for the rest of our lives. Anyway, this is going
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to be a good one. This is going to be
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a good one to see what happens. But chances are
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: it might get dismissed. But if she can prove that, no,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I've always used the name Samantha Markle. I mean, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: read the book. I told you, I read Samantha Markle's book.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a lot of things that really
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: annoyed me about Samantha Markle. So I don't really know
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: that she should, even this should go, but we'll see. Oh,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: speaking of Johnny Depp, there was some news yesterday, last
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: couple weeks since the trial ended, that Disney came back
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and offered him $ 300 million to join the back and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: join the pirate franchise. That has been proven not to
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: be true. So that's interesting. But I did remember something
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: amazing from the Amber Heard interview on today's show. So
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Savannah said, how do you feel that no one believed you?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, that was orchestrated by an attorney
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: who was hired by a man who convinced the world
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that that he had scissors for fingers. I was like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: oh my God, this is so hilarious. She goes on
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: to say, am I a good actress or am I
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a bad actress? Like you can't have it both ways.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Either I was the best actress in the world or,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you know, but you said I was, you know, not
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: a good actress, but that I was such a good
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: actress that I was manipulative. Anyway, nobody seems to care
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: about her anymore. Go shop at TJ Maxx. Okay, another lawsuit. Okay,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: we talked about this lawsuit over the time. NeNe Leakes
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: is working towards a settlement in federal discrimination suit against
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, Bravo, and NBC Universal, claiming that the Real
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta was racist and a hostile workplace. So
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: right now, a judge gave both sides 45 days after
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: they asked for more time to negotiate. So this tells
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: me that definitely Bravo and the production company and stuff
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: wants to settle. They want to just throw some money
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: at this and let it go away. Both sides are
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: working to avoid a potential arbitration process, but Leaks 54
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: disagrees with the prospects of using an arbiter in the case.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So she seems to kind of want a jury trial.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, look what it did for Johnny Depp.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really... He got... I think she... I
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: think even if she loses, I think she wants to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: stay in court to show up. I think she wants
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a jury trial. So they're going to have to offer
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: her a couple mil at least, I think, for her
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: not to go forward with it. Both parties agreed the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: timeframe was appropriate to complete these discussions and Leaks also
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: named True Entertainment and Truly Original in the lawsuit. She
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: said that she heard multiple racist remarks from co-star Kim Zolciak, 44,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: including the N-word. Her attorney said the defendants violated federal
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: employment and anti-discrimination laws with their conduct. Leaks was on
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Atlanta for 10 seasons and is a
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: part-time cast member in the show's seventh season. So, Leakes
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: said that speaking out about racist behavior and support of
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: BLM factored in her being forced off the series in 2020.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So those were the main details of it. Leakes also
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: said in May she told TMZ that she felt that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: she had been professionally sabotaged after complaining to higher-ups about
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the racist behavior she experienced. She said, I've been blacklisted
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: when you haven't worked in three years. When all of
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a sudden you're working and sought after and suddenly you're
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: not working, it's being blacklisted. I was constantly being retaliated against,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: being blacklisted, not able to work, being silenced. And so,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you know, it was difficult to do so. Now, I
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: said this before. For the last three years, well, two
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: and a half of those years has been COVID. Okay.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people weren't working. The show she
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: was on, the Ryan Murphy show, is not on anymore, Glee.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And then she did this other one, The New Normal,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: which she had a regular part. Those are both gone.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, is Ryan Murphy maybe afraid to hire her
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: again if he even had the opportunity, knowing that like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: God forbid, something happens or something can be misconstrued or
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: heard or whatever, or he does want to write her
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: off a show and then she claims it's discrimination or... So.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: By pursuing this lawsuit, yeah, it might have then slowed
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: down other people wanting to hire you. It makes them
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit scared. That's why a lot of people,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: when they're in the right to sue, I've talked about,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you know, Shenoweth, Kristen Shenoweth, when she didn't sue, when
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: the light, some heavy light fell on her head, she
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: didn't sue the show that she was on because I
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: believe she was didn't want to have a reputation of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: suing or make people think that she's physically unable to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: work or that she might be difficult to work with
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: or that she won't work with the company that's like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: let's get you well, let's be a trooper. So I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: see Mimi's side of it. But I mean, we had
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Carlos King on and he said he never heard Kim
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: say that. I find that very hard to believe. However,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: when you watch... episodes of any housewife, especially further than
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: like six years ago, there are lots of problematic stuff
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: by today's standards in those shows in which people of
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: either ethnicity are saying things to each other that would
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: be deemed problematic today that everybody put in the show.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: They filmed it. It went through the production company. It
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: went through the final edit at Bravo and it got
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: put on the air. I wonder if now there's any episodes,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: because they always do these, you know, and you can
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: watch things on Peacock. Let me know, my Juicy Scoop
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: and my Juicy Scoop historians, let me know if when
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: watching old episodes back, have they removed some things that
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you kind of remembered being like, ooh, like are those
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: scenes being taken out? Are there whole episodes being removed
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: or taken off the air? If they haven't done it,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I would say that might be a job at least
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: for a couple summer interns to go through. That would
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: be a great job for a summer intern at Bravo.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Watch every single one, keep a log of it, see
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: if we can cut it out, which is so easy
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: to do now, and also digitally take something down, put
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it back up. It's not like they got to go
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: to Blockbuster and remove the videotapes. And a 20-something would
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: know what is deemed problematic. Get it taken off now
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: so that people can't go back. Because, I mean, I
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: do kind of feel badly for some of these women,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: especially like the ones that have been on for like
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: 10 and 12 years, because I'll watch these TikToks and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: they'll be like, oh my God, look at Yolanda from
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Beverly Hills talking about how she's like, I don't want
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Gigi to, you know, be... playing volleyball. Those girls have
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: big shoulders and she's supposed to be a model. And
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want her looking like a lesbian.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Literally said that on the show. Definitely was always like
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: telling her she had to lose weight and like, don't
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: you want to do our fun lemon cleanse? You know,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: our three-day lemon cleanse and all this. There's so many
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: things in there. There was a time when Brandy brought
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: up another joke about this girl and not being able
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: to swim. I mean, it was, there's been a lot.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: So anyway, you're welcome if you haven't thought of hiring
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: some interns. And you know what? Pay the interns. I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: don't think you can get away with not giving them
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: money anyway. That's my idea. Okay. Real Housewives. Ultimate girls trip,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: ex-wives clubs at Dorinda's house in the Berkshires. Let me
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: tell you something. Get ready. Three episodes. Okay. You're listening
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: to this Thursday. There's another one today. This is on Peacock.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: It's so good.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. We have Brandy from Beverly Hills along with Taylor Armstrong.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Then we have Vicky and Tamara from OC. We have
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Dorinda and, of course, Jill Zarin from New York. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: we have Phaedra and Eva from Atlanta. Phaedra is the
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: star of the show. She is freaking hilarious. She is
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: saying such funny stuff. Jill, when... After she came back
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: from this, she has the worst memory ever. So we
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: were together. I think in Miami I was doing a show. Like,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: tell me everything. She's like, no, I don't think it's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: that good. I don't know that people will like it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be. I'm like, what are you
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: talking about? I just think maybe when you're living in it, Elsa,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have a great memory. I'm like, it is
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: so good, Jill. It's so funny. I think it's more
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: entertaining than the Turks and Caicos. Turks and Caicos was
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: prettier to look at, but really nothing funny or juicy
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: happened in it. This is a combination. Brandy does not
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: disappoint because Brandy, let me tell you my story, okay?
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Because what was interesting is I started to watch it
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: and they're like, who are you afraid to see? And
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: they're saying, oh, I'm friends with this person. I'm not
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: friends with this person. Well, Tamra And Brandy both say,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Tamara says, I'm a little nervous about Brandy. I don't
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: know her. But we did have a back and forth
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Twitter social media fight where I said she's unstable or something.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Then she came after me and they got ugly about motherhood. And,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: you know, so, you know, I think Brandy was saying,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: how dare you say I'm unstable?
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I'm a mom.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: You can't say that. You're the one who's unstable. Your
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: daughter doesn't talk to you. Tamara's like, how dare you
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: say that? So they went back and forth and people
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: wrote about it. So they were a little bit nervous
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: about seeing each other. But I'm like, you do know
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: each other. You do know each other. I'll tell you
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: how you know each other. Well, before I tell you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: that story, it was confirmed because Tamara went on like
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: e-news or something and didn't interview and said, yeah, one
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: and confirmed the story I'm going to tell you. Okay.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: So I was like a little felt a little about
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it because I was like, are we just going to
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: pretend that you're not supposed to know each other? Okay.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: So many years ago, It was like at least 2000.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could look it up, but it was
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: like 11, 12 years ago. Tamara's on OC along with
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Shannon Bedore. Brandy is on Beverly Hills. Jeff Lewis is
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: on Flipping Out on Bravo. I'm friends with Jeff and
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Jeff has made friends with Tamara and Shannon. So we're like,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: let's all go to a dinner. We make a plan
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to go to Craig's when Jeff is with Gage and
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Peter and I to join them and their spouses and Um,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: because at this time we were all really friendly to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: go to Craig's and it's going to be like the
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Saturday after New Year's. But before I go back to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: working on Chelsea lately, so I'm really excited about this night.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: The girls are coming from the OC. Well, a couple
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: of days before that, my son Brandon wakes up in
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night and is like, my leg hurts.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I can't walk. And I'm like, what? I looked it up.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is there such a thing as growing pains? Anyway,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: take him to the hospital. I have to go back
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and forth a few times. He had fluid on his,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: on his hip. But I was like, what is going on?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I spent two nights in the hospital with him. He's
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: totally fine. Obviously, you see him today. He's fine. But
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: it was a very scary experience. That day at like
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: three o'clock, I go home and Peter's like, well, I'm
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: not going to that dinner. I'll stay home with Brandon.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: You just go ahead. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: go ahead because I spent two days in a hospital
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm ready to have one fun night. That was
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: not a good idea. I was very tired, and then
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I got an Uber, and I was ready to frickin'
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: rip it. So I go to Craig's, start with my
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: cucumber martinis. I know Brandy. I met her. We shared
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a book agent. We both have boys the same age.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I like her. I was happy to see her. Brandy
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: got invited because Tamara and Brandy started to talk as
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: two women who were divorced whose spouses didn't want their
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: kids to be featured on The Real Housewives anymore. So
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they were kind of talking about that and how to whatever,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: commiserate about that. So she invited her as a single
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: person and then everybody else was there and I went
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: as a single person. So I tell them my story
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: of what I've been through for the last two days
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: at this hospital and the whole story and everything. And
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: then we talk about other things. And then later on,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting across from Brandy at this table at Craig's
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: and I say, oh my God, I have a funny
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: story to tell you. So my friend is single and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: we were waiting for this orthopedic pediatric surgeon to come
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: because all the nurses are like, he's so great. You
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: got to meet him. And he walks in and I'm
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: going to tell like the rest of the funny story
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: about it. And Brandy stops me and she goes, oh
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: my God, unbelievable. You made your son's illness about yourself.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: great mother or something like that. And it was like,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I completely snapped like a fucking real housewife. I just
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: want to say it was that moment where I'm like,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: oh my God, I understand how these people freak out.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: And in the ultimate girl trip, Taylor goes, at one
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: point she goes, don't you talk to me like that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Just like the cat meme. She like screams at Brandy.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: And I did the exact same thing. I go, oh
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: my God, what is wrong with you? Are there cameras
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: around Craig's? I don't know about, do you have really...
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: reality show Tourette's. I get up. I go to the bathroom.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I'm crying. Tamara comes running, knocks on the door. She
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: lets me in. She's like, are you so mad that
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I invited her? I go, no, I'm not mad you
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: invited her. I shouldn't be out tonight. I'm sleep deprived.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I've been through the most traumatic mother thing that's ever
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: happened to me. I have so much sympathy for anybody
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: who's truly had a sick child, but it was a
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: very scary experience. I'm like, I shouldn't have gone out tonight.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have taken an Uber because I drink more
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: when I have an Uber. I'm like, I just got
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to go home. It's fine. I feel like an asshole.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: So we walk out. Brandy's just like you see on
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the show, very much apologetic, everything. I'm like, Brandy, it's fine.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just didn't even be out. Let me
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: just pay. And I'm like, let me just go home.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: You guys just go on with the rest of your night.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Like I'm just not in the place. And I had
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Brian to go through all my money and I had
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of cash and And Jeff's like, I think
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: we need to address why Heather has so much cash.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: And then that made me laugh. And then we went on.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: We went on to the next spot. We went to
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: the pump. We drank and partied a little more, got home.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: She wrote me the next day and said, I'm so
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: sorry about last night. If I hurt your feelings, that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: was not my intention with like a smiley face. Brandy
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: did that. I'm like, it's totally fine. I know you
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: didn't mean to hurt my feelings. You can't help it.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: That's when you have to realize this girl has been
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: acting like this and doing stuff like this for 15 years.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: But when you're in it and she says it, it
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: really hurts your feelings, especially when it's talking about like
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: being a mother or not. The show is so good.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So she gets into it with people. And at one point,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: it's funny that she said to me, you made it
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: about yourself, which is what I've told you guys. I
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: hate it when housewives say that. I don't want housewives
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: also call each other thirsty. You're all thirsty. You're on
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: a reality show called The Real Housewives. You're all thirsty.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Who's thirstier? Where's the drought worse than the other? Come on.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And listen to me too. I'm thirsty too. Any mom
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: that has more than 400 Instagram followers is thirsty too. Okay.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: You're thirsty. We're all thirsty. Okay. Drink your water. I
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: hate when you're all pushing your products. You all want
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: to be on the show. You're all happy to be
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: doing this. You all know how this television thing works.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of breaking the fourth wall, which
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I like. But Brandy says, so Taylor and Brandy start
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: talking about why they had an issue. And they didn't
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: get along. And Taylor's like, you know, it was the
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: season right after my husband, ex-husband, or she was going
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: through divorce at the time. killed himself. And it was just,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: and then Brandy goes, I know that was the worst
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: year of my life. Tamara's like, Brandy, wait, the worst
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: year of your life was the year that her husband
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: killed himself. And she's like, yeah, that was a lot
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: for me to go through. Like, I mean, I was
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: dealing with you and, you know, knowing Russell. I'm like,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: oh my God, everyone, Okay, the boozers on this trip are,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: of course, Dorinda. I like a great martini. And Brandy,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: she likes her cocktails and white wine. Tamara's not getting
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: too drunk. Vicki looks terrible. And Jill says that. She goes,
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you know what? You don't look good. I'm not being
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: that to be mean, but really, Vicki, your face, it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like three shades lighter than your neck. I don't know
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: what's going on, but you don't look good. I don't
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: feel good. I don't feel good. So Steve Lodge, brother
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: of Roger Lodge from Blind Date, all of a sudden
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: broke up with me just yesterday. And, you know, he's
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: always living in my condo. So he was going to
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the condo. She then reveals they hadn't had sex for
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: 13 months. Not a great sign. But over, it's broken engagement.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I just don't feel good. So she,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: of course, they're sharing a bedroom, her and Tamara, which
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: is kind of fun to see. And she's like, I
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: don't feel good. The medic comes in. And Tamara's like,
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: if I have to go every trip. And it's true.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: They went and they go through the flashbacks, which is great,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: of when she got sick in Iceland, Vicky. When she
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: got really hurt in Glamis when the ATV flipped over.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: There was another time where she slipped like in Charleston
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: or something, walking back from a pool. I mean, she's
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: just always. So they find out she has a sinus infection.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: She had COVID. but she doesn't have COVID anymore. But
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: she says, I didn't get vaccinated. And Dorinda is like, what?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: You didn't get vaccinated? They get in a vaccination fight.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: And Vicky's just like, I know someone who died after
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: they got the second shot. And Dorinda's like, I don't
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: believe you. You're a fucking liar. I don't believe you.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, And she goes, show me where it is.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: She's like, I saw it on the internet. And I
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: was like, well, was it your friend or did you
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: see something on the internet? I thought that was pretty
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: interesting and juicy. The next day, everyone's going, it is
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: so good, you guys. You're going to really like it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I wish I could have seen tonight's episode early so
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that I could just talk about it because I know
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: that it's a real good one. I know that Jill
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and Dorinda get into it and it's about... saying who's
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: the thirstiest. And last night or two nights ago, uh, uh,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Brandy and Jill were on watch what happens live. And
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: they were saying, they were asking which housewife what, and
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: it was like, who's the thirstiest. And Brandy's like, Jill,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Jill's like, what me? Who wants to get on the show?
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Who wants back on the show more than anybody else?
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Jill.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: She's like, Jill's like, I don't want it. I mean,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: it is, And then, of course, Eva's like just reasonable, fun,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: gorgeous to look at. And she and Taylor bond over
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: both being victims of domestic abuse, which is kind of
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: a beautiful, like strong moment. She's just getting high. Of course,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Jill doesn't drink at all. So it's and then and
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Phaedra's just chill and like making the comments that are
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: just to die. Like my sister and I were laughing
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: so hard. Really like a surprise hit. And they just
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: have to do more of these. You know, I think
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: really have to do more of them. Okay. Oh, and
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: then I don't know if I mentioned this last week,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: but Vicky went and called, according to Teddy, went and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: called Teddy's boss at their podcast company saying that it
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: should be her that does the podcast with Tamara, which
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I just thought was so Vicky. I know that she's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: called Jeff Lewis's. boss before. It's serious. I think it's amazing.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to piss her off, except I don't
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: have a boss. So if you want to complain about me,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: just call me. But I think Vicki is so entertaining.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I love that she's just like, I don't like that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: And then she says to Brandy, she goes, you can't
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: talk to me like that. You can't say what you said, shut,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. That's what I said. I can't
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: say that. No, you've really, you've got to promise me
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: that you won't say that to me anymore, Brandy. And
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: then we can go on and show. Well, I can't
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: promise that. I can't just rolls off the tongue. I can't,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I can't promise that I'll never say it again. I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: just like, it's just like so good. Um, Real Housewives
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills. It's so good. I saw some clips
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: because of course I, you know, I'm recording this on
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a Wednesday, so I couldn't see tonight. But Diane Jenkins, oh,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: first of all, let me just do a little update.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Erica Jane, the earrings are in, are with the trustee.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: The judge denied the motion that Erica's people were holding saying, no,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: these are my earrings. They weren't purchased with client funds.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: The judge said, no, I believe they were. Give the
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: earrings away. The earrings are gone. Okay. She no longer
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: has the earrings. But Diane Jenkins is just not having
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: a great week. They're pulling up a lawsuit where she
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: was acting like a Karen. Another thing was like cutting hedges.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's all these other weird things about her. Um,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I talked about before when she went after this girl
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and said, Oh, it might be, it must be great.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: You must be proud of yourself for being a black
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: content creator. And the woman was black. That wasn't good.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Then we see a clip of how she sends a
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: group text to everybody, uh, claiming that this trip wasn't
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: fun for her, that she's been bleeding for eight weeks
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: from her miscarriage and all this stuff and a lot.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: So everyone's like, and she misspells Garcelle's name and then
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: she goes to Garcelle's party and she's like, well, I
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: know that Sutton is old and frail. I'm like, you're
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: 48 or nine and Sutton's 51. Like in the words
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: of Brandy, shut the fuck up. Like, what are you saying? Like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: so she's like, you want the new villain? I'm here.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: And then of course, Lisa Rinna's like, I love her. So, oh,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: and then Lisa Rinna, Lisa Rinna said that she reached
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: out to Denise Richards and, you know, and they made good.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: And then And then Garcelle texted her while she's filming
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: her interview with the housewives and is like, hey, Denise,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: put down the camera from OnlyFans. No, I don't know
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: if she'd started yet, but she's like, Denise, did you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: ever get a text from Lisa? And she's like, when?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Since then, I guess Lisa shared the receipts that she
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: did text or whatever. The girl's busy. Denise Richard's busy.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: But Brandy, you know, who had... you know, who had
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: a weekend alone with her where they got together sexually.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And that was a whole storyline, Denise and Brandy. She said,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't blame her for doing OnlyFans, except
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: that she acted like she was like holier than thou
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: and Miss Mother. And like, of course, go do it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I don't care. OK, so anyway, that's it's pretty it's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it's great, you know. Oh, and Erica got so drunk
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: on the boat. I freaking loved it there in Punta Minta.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I used to have a boat. I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: was called illegal. She's just, she's like, I am. And, um,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: so between the Lexapro and the drinking and losing the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: diamond earrings, she's just rolling around jealous of Diane Jenkins,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: who has the jet. And then they get on the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: jet and Diane Jenkins is like, sounds like, can I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: sit here? And she's like, no, uh, kind of sitting
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: here and there you go. So it is juicy. It's fun. Um, Oh, yeah,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: this was the one. Reality blurb. It said Diane Jenkins
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: was labeled a Karen accused of threatening to call cops
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: on a black security guard in a lawsuit. So she's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: got a lot of shit. She's got to be like,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: why the hell? Why the hell did I do this show?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: So I think she might be a one-hit wonder. I'm
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: not predicting it. But if I was her friend, I'd say,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: just get out, girl. Just get out. You had so
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: much money. You had such a good life before. Oh,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Real Houses of Dubai, Caroline Stanbury says that they– all
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: their valuables were stolen. They like went out to dinner
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and then went back to their place that they were
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: staying in Greece and their bags were all pulled out
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: and along with a bunch of bags and jewelry, his
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: wedding ring was stolen. Her husband who's 20 years younger
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: than she is– so she's sad about that. But she's
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: like that's why we love Dubai because it's so much
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: safer in Dubai. They've never been robbed or anything, but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: they were robbed in Greece. That show, it's taken a minute,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm still watching it. Okay, Southern
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Charm is back. And this is kind of getting juicy
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: because it's been on a long time. Shep is 42 now.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: And I like this show because there is relationships that
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: are pretty great. So Like, Austin was dating this girl, Madison.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Remember that?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Madison!
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Madison. So Madison returns to the show, which is good.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: But Craig, who has really taken this pillow thing to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: a whole other level. He has, like, a cute, like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: store that you can buy, like, Charleston stuff along with
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: his pillows. He's dating this other girl, Paige, that he
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: met on Winter House that was on Summer House. They
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: were a couple. But then in the show, he reveals
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that on a night in Vegas, he slept with his
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: old girlfriend, Naomi, who is also back on the show.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Naomi left the show to be with this doctor that
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: she thought was wonderful, got to New York, found out
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: that he was cheating on her, and then came back.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: She has a new nose, some fuller lips, pretty cute body,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: very thin, started playing tennis. Anyway, if you're into it,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: that's pretty juicy. I'm pretty excited. Catherine is just a mess.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: She's the mom of two with the horrible Ravenal, who's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: no longer on the show because he was accused of
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: sexual assault a bunch of times. She is a horrible mess.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: She has a great Gatsby party, kind of like Kris
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Jenner had for her 60th birthday, but this was for
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: her 30th. And I think it's a great theme. I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: just want to talk about themes. I think it's a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: great theme because you can– everyone can dress up. It's
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: easy for the guys to dress up and everyone looks glamorous.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: If you're invited to a great Gatsby 20s party, I'm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: going to give you some tips because I have a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: real regret about my look for Kris Jenner's party, one
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: of the last parties I was ever invited to of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Kris Jenner's. I don't know why I did this. But
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I did like that little black– 1920s wig. And then
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I put a thing around my head and I just
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: look like an ugly fat face. It just was not good.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is, don't do a wig. You
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: guys do not do a wig if you go to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: a twenties party. I mean, unless you wear wigs all
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: the time. I think a prettier look is like do
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: like an extreme side part, have someone like do like this,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the curls, like that kind of curls. And then just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: put like one feather here and then do like a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: long beaded high slit gown with like the high gloves,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: lots of jewelry and the cigarette and you will look
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: great and you won't look like not like yourself. You're welcome. Catherine, she,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a wig or what,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: but she did some weird hairdo and she did the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: thing around her head. And then she had done the
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: mistake of taking too much retinol cream on her face.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: So during the night, it looked like her lipstick had
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: been smeared. But it was just like her face like
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: breaking out. And then she got really drunk. And she
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: was like a bitch to her boyfriend and left. And
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, that's it with that. Britney Spears wrote,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: went to the old house. I guess she sold her house. Okay.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Went to the old house yesterday to finish packing. And
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: look what I found. These adorable white jeans. Haven't worn
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: white jeans in so long. She has the brown pumps,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: you guys. So I guess she left. She took the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: brown pumps. She's in Vegas now. The brown pumps are
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: with her. The brown pumps are still around. The brown
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: sensible pumps are never going away. So other than that,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: she's having a good life. Now her stalker, I actually
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: don't have that. Her stalker, he is considered a stalker.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: It's the first husband. Jason Alexander, who broke into her house,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: climbed into her bedroom. She got married at this house.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: He has been in custody this whole time. He was arrested.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: He should be. And he's going to face stalking charges.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Very scary. Very disturbing. Sad that he's gone to these
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: lengths and that he really thought that she wanted to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: see him. Scary for her. Also scary for... Ariana Grande's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: stalker broke into her home on her birthday, and he's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: violated restraining orders. That's very scary. Oh, this was very weird.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's flattering. It's just weird. So Annie
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: got in a DM. Annie says, I get DMs all
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: the time of men saying, hey, baby, I really like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: your profile. You're really beautiful. Hope this doesn't offend you.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: But would you like to be my sugar baby? I'm
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: offering $ 300 a week. And let's start talking. So yesterday,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: she got a very pretty blonde woman who, according to
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the photo, looks like she's about, what, like 37? And
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: she has 461 followers. She's thirsty. And it says, hello,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I like your profile, and I would love for you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: to be my sugar baby, if you don't mind, which
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: comes with an allowance of $ 300 twice a week. Why
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: don't you just say $ 600 a week? And I said,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: you got to write her back. So we wrote her back.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Are you expecting sexual stuff or are we just hanging
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: out getting mani and pedis and shopping? Because I'm like,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: is this like an aunt-niece situation or a lesbian situation
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: or what? Because it's a woman. She responded. Yes, I do.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: This is so exciting. Hold on. I'm not here for sex.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I just want attention and I need someone to pick
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: a long conversation with. I guess have a long conversation. Plus,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: cheerful acts with meaningful talks and distance isn't a problem
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: for me. We're going to continue. Obviously, maybe not obvious
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: to you guys, I think this leads to eventually being like, okay, well,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: let me send you the money, trying to get your
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: bank information, hacking your shit, something like that. They're never
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: going to meet. This person obviously probably took someone else's profile.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: That's why I covered her face and her and the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: name of her just in case. But I've heard other
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: people say this, that when they played along with it
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit, they're like, why are you contacting me?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: You know, and pretty soon they start asking for money.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I want to see you. Where can I, but the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: sugar daddy thing where they're offering you money. Cause sometimes
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: we see where a guy is like, Hey, I really
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: like you, you know? And then they try to say,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: I want to visit you. Oh my God, my wallet
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: got stolen. Can you, you know, Venmo me whatever $ 600
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: so I can get on the plane. And then they
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: never come. This is like the sugar baby, I'm offering
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: you money. So I want to hear from anybody that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: actually has corresponded with someone because I know a lot
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: of people are getting DMs like this. This is the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: first time I heard of a girl doing it, which
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: this is very, very strange. So beware. Also very strange,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: speaking of a weird sister-wife situation, this TMZ article I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: found a couple weeks ago. John Lennon, you know, he
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: was with Yoko Ono. This girl, May Pang, said that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: she was his girlfriend with Yoko's, like, blessing. Where Yoko
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: was like, you really need– my husband likes you. You
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: really need to hang out with him. And she was only, like,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: 19 and he was 35. And I just thought that
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: is– it's so crazy the stuff that, like, the Juicy
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Scoop history that's coming to me, like, lately. Like, this
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: other story about Steven Tyler that I guess has been out.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: It's been mentioned in his books online. People might know it,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: but Steven Tyler of Aerosmith. He met this girl, and
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: he wanted her to go on tour with him. And
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: she was only 14. I think she was only 14.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: She might have been 16, but she's definitely not older
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: than 16. So he got her parents to sign over
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: parental rights to him so that he was her legal guardian,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: so he could take her on tour and hop from
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: state to state to state. Then he got her impregnated.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Then he cheated on her and dumped her. And then
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: she came forward with a story, and he also mentioned
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: it in his book. But I'm like, my God. And
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: now with the Elvis movie, what is the story behind
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Priscilla Presley? Now, I've heard different things. I know that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I think he met her when he was 14, but
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think they actually dated until she was 18
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: because he went into the Army. But I have not
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: seen the movie, but I heard they definitely don't touch
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: on anything being inappropriate about their age difference. And I
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: guess Priscilla has always said, No, nothing happened until I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: was 18, but I almost feel like at this point,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: is she protecting the legacy and that of her daughter
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and everything and of her parents? I pushed for it.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: If your parents did say, oh, you can get married
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: at 16 or, oh, you can be with this guy
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: even though you're underage, and now you're 70 and you're like, well,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: it was a different time and I don't think my
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: parents meant anything bad by it. Anyway, I heard the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Elvis movie is very good regardless. So I'll probably go
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: see that. Ugh. 14 years ago, I said yes. Road
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: tripping to visit my bestie, Anna Duggar, posted that she's
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: going to go visit her husband, pedophile, who's doing time. Anyway,
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